Honestly, I think this isn't that different from what the big Airlines have done in the recent past. If they really want more pilots, airliners should create "in house" training departments or pay for training. Obviously there would be stipulations on employment afterwards but there are too many prospective pilots out there that don't have the money to afford the training.
Paying for training would be a BIG initial cost for them, but would bring in the amount of pilots they are wanting. That is the one thing stopping me from trying to become commercial pilot is the fact it costs $100k+.
@@tkcreativeco That's the thing, it wouldn't cost them $100k if they had everything inhouse. Have mechanics, own aircraft, instructors, etc. I think they're afraid of loosing pilots to other airlines, or the investment they'll have to explain to the shareholders. -Interview and health check pilots with PPL w/ X hours. -Setup a loan, and offer to forgive it with X years of service.
I'm 42 and decided it was time for a change. I start my Aviation Journey Fall 2024 at the University of Maine Augusta. The school owns a Cirrus SR20 G6 and Maine Instrument Flight the University's partner has a fleet of about 7 more! I had the opportunity to fly one back in April and It changed my life!!!! My goal is to become an Airline Pilot and your channel is great!!! It's helped answer so many questions I had and has helped me become more comfortable with my life changing decision!!!!
Thank u, for doing this for people who really are dead serious about becoming a pilot. No experience no ideas but just had a deep gut passion for flying n the sky. This really helps when doing all the research to find out which school n route options n financial there is to help make the best choice for each individual. I’m really grateful n thankful for ur time, effort n support! U represent United integrity as a working active pilot!! 👏 🧑✈️
Fantastic program! I got to visit this facility about three days after this event and got a great tour given by one of the instructors. What an amazing opportunity for young aviators! I can’t speak highly enough of the people we met while visiting! As a retired guy, it made me proud of my former employer! Great video introduction!
What advice will you give me? I’m a 22 years old dreaming to become a pilot. Im planning to start school in a couple months, but I’m deciding between “ATP Flight School” or “United Aviate”
Just found your channel, this was the first video that popped up! I have been looking into this United Aviate program for a few months now and I am hoping to begin in the late summer/early fall. What United is doing seems to be great and I can’t wait to begin my pilot journey!
My dream is to become a pilot but the school cost are just outrageous. I'm beliveve a lot of pilots left during this pandemic but I'm sure the real reason they have a shortage is cost. The average person can't afford this without financial aid or grants. This is a rich man's career.
@@dontaydior7678 go to United’s website, read the fine print. Hopefully you were born with a dark skin color and your good to go. Has nothing to do with merit or iq.
Hey there! Thank you for sharing this experience with us! I use to BUILD the Cirrus’s aircraft in Grand Forks, North Dakota! The only plane with a parachute! Laid up probably 1000 of the planes! I wish I could be a pilot!
For anyone still interested in the program: they have updated pricing. It will cost about $90k now for all ratings up through MEI and they have suspended taking applications through to the end of 2024. So if you apply today and are one of the few selected, you won't see a start date until at least 2025.
Very nice! Mr. Kirby looks like a down to earth person. This has my interest. I have always wanted to fly but i have like helicopters more. Over all being in the sky is amazing
Thanks for the video! Although it's a bit late for me to comment, a year or so ago, I was considering flying cargo. However, after watching your video, I've decided to pursue flying for United. Currently holding my commercial pilot license, working on CFi and CFII, and wrapping up Multiengine training. Your insights are valuable - thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing! As a passenger, I love being in the sky! It’s just a different world. I am interested in switching careers, but I am afraid I am too old and $71K is still a lot.
The way I look at it is next year; you'll be a year older. Before you know it, that year will turn into three years. And you just might look back, and say, geez, ‘I was a young lad back then.’ So it might be worth considering taking this leap of faith! It might be at United Aviate or another flight school, but you'll be making a dream a reality. Wishing you all the best!
I just found out about this flying school and I have the same fear as you, I’m 52 years old and sometimes I wonder if I’m too late to do this, plus also the cost $71k
My dream was to become a pilot. When I was 16 my parents bought me an introduction flight for my birthday. I hated it. I threw up! Twice!. But I still thought it was my dream, so I worked summer jobs and got about 15 more hours. It didnt really get any better, it just wasnt for me! I am glad I worked that out early. But I love your channel and love to see what pilots go through. Great work!
I am in the process of working on my private pilot license. Like you said in a previous video, I am working on small goals which would help me with my big goals!!!!
My friend is in this program and I saw her in this video in the big group picture! So proud of her! I want to do this so badly. I’m not sure I want to be an airline pilot, but I would absolutely love to get my PPL and commercial licenses and I’d love to be a flight instructor. I’m seriously interested in applying but idk how I can afford it. I don’t have $70k or close to it. Any tips on what to do about that?
$70k is for the full training. It’s a little high, they advertise PPL as $17k typical cost is around $10k. The school also offers scholarships and what not. My recommendation if you are not looking to be a ATP then look else where.
The price is very good considering you are flying a cirrus sr20 with glass cockpit. Other flight schools can cost more. Local one charge 400$ per hour for sr20 without fuel, with fuel it’s 500 an hour, that doesn’t even include flight instruction
Read the fine print. You have to be a woman or person of color. Look into middle georgia state university. It’s pretty economical for a 4 year aviation degree. Still will cost around 100k though.
I ended up in a field not far from KGYR on my first solo due to an EFATO - sadly no Cirrus CAPS for me. Good to see the development at KGYR for training! Loving the videos 👍
Thank you Paul for showing us a bit of the Aviate Academy and for describing the steps. You look very serious while performing that emergency descent! 😅
I live just down the road and have been thinking about a career change and signing up this looks amazing and I’ve always wanted to fly and be a pilot but I’ve never had the opportunity this seems like such an amazing one.
I went to flight school and dropped out because I couldn't afford it anymore and with my job (which I need to live) I didn't have enough time to get studying in there. I was a Flight Attendant (not the job at time of flight school) for a while, I quit but for other reason that have nothing to do with aviation, it just wasn't for me. But the course to become an FA was perfect! They fly you out to headquarters, they put you up in a hotel for a couple months. They have (at least the airline I flew on) a beautifully structured program to help people learn the material of all learning levels. And ya know what?!?!? I DIDN'T GET LESS THAN A 96% (very specific I know, but I remember because I usually got 100's) ON ANY EXAM THEY GAVE ME. We went to school Mon-Fri (occasionally on Sat for certain drills) 8AM-5Pm,6pm,or 7pm depending on the lesson than went home, studied with our roommates for an hour or two while we ate dinner than did it again the next day. Sat and Sun we studied a bit more in the morning but we also did fun stuff to enjoy ourselves, go out and have a couple of drinks since there was no class the next day and at training we had to start the alcohol rule which was no alcohol 12 hours prior to report time, in this case was 8AM. The way flying courses are structured now is like "here are the books, read the whole book, I teach you to fly the plane, then you're going to take your test, whether you fail or not isn't my problem". This academy is a step up from that. But still Can't afford it and taking loans out will just put you in debt even further. I know maybe it might cost them some money but IF they would structure these programs the way Flight Attendant trainings are I guarantee you won't have a pilot shortage anymore, i'll put money on that. And there wasn't just that one exam we took to be a FA, we took multiple, they should have that too, a lot of testing. Am I saying EVERYONE will make it through, most likely not as the same way in FA, it hurt to see the crying faces of those who just couldn't keep up with the material (then there were those who did stupid shit so I didn't really feel bad for them). But That is just how it is. Never the less, I guarantee any airline to try this and you'll see an increase in pilots within 3 years. Obviously the courses will have to be a bit longer than FA training. But just try it and I'll bet money we wont have a pilot shortage anymore. Sorry for rambling on and on but I had to say that. And obviously it wouldn't be like like "Oh, you passed now go apply to the airlines". If this is with United, you would have to be a pilot for united for I would say a MIN of 5 years, a minimum, maybe longer considering the money they invested in you. If you read my whole argument, please let me know what you think.
When this first came out i found contact information and contacted the academy and they told me they were no longer accepting applications due to high volume of applications of people wanting to become pilots.....wasnt the point of this to get pilots, we are at a huge shortage of pilots and you would think they would take everyone.......i was super excited about it but now I am back to square one with wanting to become a pilot
Meu Deus que sonho poder acompanhar seus vôos aqui na tela do meu celular. Daria tudo para poder voltar alguns anos da minha vida e poder ter condições de me tornar um piloto de aviões. Infelizmente fiquei velho perseguindo meu sonho de me tornar piloto..e não consegui. Aqui no Brasil é muito caro se tornar piloto..Deus acabou me reservando o futuro de um mecânico de aviões fracassado e sujo como meu superior me fala.Pelo menos uma parte do meu sonho realizei... todos os dias fico do lado de uma avião...pra concertar é claro! Quando fico no cockpit,fecho os meus olhos e me imagino pilotando... quando abro os olhos me vejo sozinho com meu velho uniforme surrado de mecânico.. outra parte boa é quando chego em casa e faço um vôo no meu computador. Me sinto muito feliz quando estou simulando até mesmo quando meu PC velho fica falhando e travando. Estarei sempre acompanhando seus vôos aqui pela telinha do meu celular e me imaginando pilotando uma máquina como a do senhor. Infelizmente a pessoa que queria ter me visto como piloto de aviões partiu a dois meses..meu querido pai. Bom vou seguindo aqui do chão concertando aviões até onde meu corpo aguentar. Deus lhe abençoe Comandante..sou seu fã.. Abraços do Brasil. Itamar
UAA fosters a culture of intimidation. Many students have been let go after speaking out or complaining to hire-ups for vague reasons, and therefore students currently at the school are too scared to speak out. School management constantly has all eyes and ears open for any sign of dissent or criticism and is looking over everyone’s shoulder.
I just got my private pilot in the DA40, emergency decents are fun to do, but we can't go over 129 which feels fast enough. I couldn't imagine hurtling towards the ground at 160 lol
In 1989 I got my PPL in 24 days and spent $1250 for a Jeppesen package with a guarantied check ride in a Part 141 program. The weather was terrible in June. We did a lot of IFR. As in I follow road, I follow River.The school is gone and so is the airfield. Mill Plain Flying Service at Evergreen in Vancouver, WA. Instrument rating followed in 1995 at Republic Airport on Long Island, NY through Caelum Tranquilitatis flight school for 2K. New York air space was super busy to the point where controllers used the word “brake” during transmissions to let you know not to read back and just execute. No GPS. All instruments where dial. NDB approaches really sucked.
No, a lot of United employees don't think so. He mandated that all United employees had to take the C-19 shots even though a judge ruled that the federal government did not have the authority to require private employers make their employees take the shots.
@@samholder196 A lot of employees including many pilots quit rather than take those experimental shots so now there is a shortage of workers. For those workers who agreed to get the experimental shots, there have been many who now have serious health issues and some have died when they were previously healthy. Many of us don't want to have their pilots die while we're flying?
@@status-xk8kr wow per statusI 'm very lucky I'm alive, , me and most people I know had all the shots( I've had 4) and not been sick one day!!!(lol) status, don't go outside, the sun may kill you
Do you think there´s good or rather chances for people like me, coming from Germany (in case you manage to get a green card) and directly from their bachelor program? Especially considering that recruiters will probably think about the fact that people might not like life in America and move back after pilot training or some years on the job which is obviously not what United´s looking for given that they probably want everybody onboard to stay with them as long that´s somehow possible in terms of age and health?
How long would one have to fly for United Express until the transition to United airlines? Is the transition guaranteed? What's the payment like at United Express?
@@olivererdle1257 bare minimum 2 years for a United Express partner. The transition from the partner to United is guaranteed. and the pay as a first officer at most of them is around $40-$50K your first year and when you upgrade to captain perhaps at the 1.5-2.5 year mark, you would jump to $65-$80K. Pay depends on how many hours you fly, per diem, profit sharing bonuses, and multipliers on pay if you pick up time obviously. Picking up time on your days off can pay 150%-300% depending on how bad they need a pilot. So flying on your days of can make those numbers wildly different. And then obviously when you transition, you will make significantly more money your second year at United. somewhere around $150k depending on aircraft and again how much you fly.
@@maxsaviation9512 From a passenger's standpoint, their hard product and service aren't great. But from a pilot's standpoint, they are among the best in terms of compensation and career.
i had been accepted, but a month ago they still had the bachelors degree requirement upon transitioning to united. so i couldnt afford going to aviate as well as a loan for college. (i had 65k saved up at the time for a different flight school) my total cost for aviate was 85k without housing, so i sadly rescinded my interest, 2 days later they announced they are dropping the college degree for aviate graduates 😫 . guess ill have to try again at the CFI level. absolutely love the avionics though in your video in comparison to what im training in lol
@@andresmedia8118 its not. Its 85k for tuition + checkride fees, + books and etc, 5% overage. And then another 1500 per month in living expenses as per their email to me. Total cost is something like 105k
@@ayda9382 as of 3 weeks ago if you go to aviate academy and get all your ratings there; you can go to united after 2 years at a regional without a college degree. If you join at the CFI level or regional, and go to their regional, you can go to united without a college degree if you spend 1,000 hours as PIC at their regional
Anyone in this program with a full time job? I'm looking to retire in the next few years, and I'll only be in my early 40s. I would love to get started with prepping for a new career now, and this would be a terrific option. I live in Goodyear, but with a family I have to continue my full time job. I worked throughout college, so I'm no stranger to working while going to school full time even if it's been a while. I'm not sure if working full time while attending this program is even feasible or frowned upon though
From the looks of the students you definitely have a leg up if you are a minority when applying. Do the traditional route, get your college degree then go into the military, then apply directly to the airlines.
That "traditional" route doesn't work anymore. The wait time for flight training in the military is very long and they now make you commit 10+ years before leaving to join an airline. The military doesn't want to spend all that money and resources to train you only to have you leave after a few years. That ship sailed long ago.
@@edwink1467Not really… I’m currently an Air Force ROTC cadet and know plenty of pilot selects. Wait time for a typical UPT class is about a year, often less.
Wish I could have madee it through the process, I get the feeling I'd probably have better odds of getting in the military flying F18's than getting a seat here or in any of these academy programs. Sucks getting rejected so much in aviation for over a decade now I'm 38 and it looks like I'm going to have to hang this one up but I just don't know where to go from here it's really the only thing that makes me tick. Sucks more getting so far in the process and getting that "No Thanks" letter the day before Christmas. Onto something else I suppose.
Someone explain how this is any different than EVERY path to united. 1. Go to a flight school and pay 50-90k for your ratings? Check. 2. Build time as a cfi, or part 135? Check. 3. Fly for a regional before going to a legacy? Check. I literally don't understand how this is different than the way we've all been doing it. It's not a cheaper or better or faster way to United. What IS it?
I think the main difference is after you get your private and complete your interview, barring any major problems, you’re guaranteed a job with United. Which isn’t something I ever had going the traditional route.
I'm in the process of applying i did my assessment today can anyone tell me what the next step would be ? Also I live on the other side of the coast so I have to relocate to Arizona any tips/advises is appreciated..
Well yes, it's nice, they saved the facility but their program seems like a ripoff for young, unknowing pilot students. That's why I'm waiting for an answer to my question in the comments.
Am pretty sure you still have to build 1500 hours, even though it’s their academy 😂😂 ….. that 1500 thing must go‼️‼️🤦🏾….. or make time building free alongside a contract with airline so no one gets hours and leaves.
This doesn’t account for flying time to get to the minimum hours for the airlines. That will cost you at least another $30k. This is why there is a shortage.
Hello, I have seen this program advertised before. This program takes money from people that don't know any better. As someone in the 121 world you know getting a job at the big 3 is not easy. Takes thousands hours in a jet before you can land a job at UA. You would be better off with buying a C152 and finding a CFI to get your certs and ratings.
A C152 is between 50-90k to buy, you still have to pay the CFI, fuel costs, maintenance cost, etc. Many of the applications for this Academy are fresh out of high school/college.
Honestly, I think this isn't that different from what the big Airlines have done in the recent past. If they really want more pilots, airliners should create "in house" training departments or pay for training. Obviously there would be stipulations on employment afterwards but there are too many prospective pilots out there that don't have the money to afford the training.
Agreed 💯
Paying for training would be a BIG initial cost for them, but would bring in the amount of pilots they are wanting. That is the one thing stopping me from trying to become commercial pilot is the fact it costs $100k+.
@@tkcreativeco That's the thing, it wouldn't cost them $100k if they had everything inhouse. Have mechanics, own aircraft, instructors, etc. I think they're afraid of loosing pilots to other airlines, or the investment they'll have to explain to the shareholders.
-Interview and health check pilots with PPL w/ X hours.
-Setup a loan, and offer to forgive it with X years of service.
I’m one if those :/
Yes I'm one
I just moved on to the final step! I am super excited just hoping everyday I get it!!! Even if I don't I'm glad I got to experience the process!
Update! I got in!!!!
@@imawatermelon1439 congratulations happy for you! I’m going to apply once I graduate from college next year. I can’t wait
@@imawatermelon1439 you did your assessment 13 days ago and got your approval? Congrats!
I did my assessment two weeks ago I hope I get in
@@imawatermelon1439 congratulations
I'm 42 and decided it was time for a change. I start my Aviation Journey Fall 2024 at the University of Maine Augusta. The school owns a Cirrus SR20 G6 and Maine Instrument Flight the University's partner has a fleet of about 7 more! I had the opportunity to fly one back in April and It changed my life!!!! My goal is to become an Airline Pilot and your channel is great!!! It's helped answer so many questions I had and has helped me become more comfortable with my life changing decision!!!!
So good to hear!! ✈️🤙🏻
Thank u, for doing this for people who really are dead serious about becoming a pilot. No experience no ideas but just had a deep gut passion for flying n the sky. This really helps when doing all the research to find out which school n route options n financial there is to help make the best choice for each individual. I’m really grateful n thankful for ur time, effort n support! U represent United integrity as a working active pilot!! 👏 🧑✈️
Just say and
Fantastic program! I got to visit this facility about three days after this event and got a great tour given by one of the instructors. What an amazing opportunity for young aviators! I can’t speak highly enough of the people we met while visiting! As a retired guy, it made me proud of my former employer! Great video introduction!
What advice will you give me?
I’m a 22 years old dreaming to become a pilot. Im planning to start school in a couple months, but I’m deciding between “ATP Flight School” or “United Aviate”
@@alexj2283 which aircraft they will give us after completing of united avitate program?
@@alexj2283 ATP United is the worlds worst airline
@@maxsaviation9512 why?
Can you prove that?
Just found your channel, this was the first video that popped up! I have been looking into this United Aviate program for a few months now and I am hoping to begin in the late summer/early fall. What United is doing seems to be great and I can’t wait to begin my pilot journey!
Did you make it?
Did you make it?
My dream is to become a pilot but the school cost are just outrageous. I'm beliveve a lot of pilots left during this pandemic but I'm sure the real reason they have a shortage is cost. The average person can't afford this without financial aid or grants. This is a rich man's career.
If your an African American, they will get you scholarships to United’s program.
@@dontaydior7678 go to United’s website, read the fine print. Hopefully you were born with a dark skin color and your good to go. Has nothing to do with merit or iq.
Take a damn loan
@@StrictlySports don’t need one if your black. United will have its sponsors pay for it. I’m thinking about using self tan myself.
@@16sondra well I was talking to the Sean guy but that’s so unfair
Hey there! Thank you for sharing this experience with us! I use to BUILD the Cirrus’s aircraft in Grand Forks, North Dakota! The only plane with a parachute! Laid up probably 1000 of the planes! I wish I could be a pilot!
Outstanding program!!!!
Scott Kirby got blood wings 🙏🏼 legendary
Thumbs up to cancer survivor. What a special young lady.
Emilia is inspiration to everyone.
For anyone still interested in the program: they have updated pricing. It will cost about $90k now for all ratings up through MEI and they have suspended taking applications through to the end of 2024. So if you apply today and are one of the few selected, you won't see a start date until at least 2025.
Very nice! Mr. Kirby looks like a down to earth person. This has my interest. I have always wanted to fly but i have like helicopters more. Over all being in the sky is amazing
I doubt that
Thanks for the video! Although it's a bit late for me to comment, a year or so ago, I was considering flying cargo. However, after watching your video, I've decided to pursue flying for United. Currently holding my commercial pilot license, working on CFi and CFII, and wrapping up Multiengine training. Your insights are valuable - thanks for sharing!
i have applied for united aviate academy. i submitted my interview videos now just waiting a response!!
Thank you for sharing! As a passenger, I love being in the sky! It’s just a different world.
I am interested in switching careers, but I am afraid I am too old and $71K is still a lot.
The way I look at it is next year; you'll be a year older. Before you know it, that year will turn into three years. And you just might look back, and say, geez, ‘I was a young lad back then.’ So it might be worth considering taking this leap of faith! It might be at United Aviate or another flight school, but you'll be making a dream a reality. Wishing you all the best!
I just found out about this flying school and I have the same fear as you, I’m 52 years old and sometimes I wonder if I’m too late to do this, plus also the cost $71k
It's closer to 100-115k in these expensive planes.
I am so excited for this program. I have applied also!! I cannot wait to get back into the air.
My dream was to become a pilot. When I was 16 my parents bought me an introduction flight for my birthday. I hated it. I threw up! Twice!. But I still thought it was my dream, so I worked summer jobs and got about 15 more hours. It didnt really get any better, it just wasnt for me! I am glad I worked that out early. But I love your channel and love to see what pilots go through. Great work!
I am in the process of working on my private pilot license. Like you said in a previous video, I am working on small goals which would help me with my big goals!!!!
got to love that they carry a military tradition on with the jabbing of their flight pin .
I'm thinking about applying to this program
I think Scott was saying that’s what they did at the Air Force Academy.
@@mylayoverlife very cool, I enjoyed your video.
My friend is in this program and I saw her in this video in the big group picture! So proud of her! I want to do this so badly. I’m not sure I want to be an airline pilot, but I would absolutely love to get my PPL and commercial licenses and I’d love to be a flight instructor. I’m seriously interested in applying but idk how I can afford it. I don’t have $70k or close to it. Any tips on what to do about that?
$70k is for the full training. It’s a little high, they advertise PPL as $17k typical cost is around $10k. The school also offers scholarships and what not. My recommendation if you are not looking to be a ATP then look else where.
The price is very good considering you are flying a cirrus sr20 with glass cockpit. Other flight schools can cost more. Local one charge 400$ per hour for sr20 without fuel, with fuel it’s 500 an hour, that doesn’t even include flight instruction
It’s cheap compared $90K ATP charges.
@@AllThingsAviation more like they are stealing from you people
I'm applying next year. I'm 17 and I have my ppl checkride in March
Read the fine print. You have to be a woman or person of color. Look into middle georgia state university. It’s pretty economical for a 4 year aviation degree. Still will cost around 100k though.
Worlds worst airline avoid them!
I ended up in a field not far from KGYR on my first solo due to an EFATO - sadly no Cirrus CAPS for me. Good to see the development at KGYR for training! Loving the videos 👍
Thank you Paul for showing us a bit of the Aviate Academy and for describing the steps.
You look very serious while performing that emergency descent! 😅
I’m way more comfortable in a 767 than a cirrus. 😂
@@mylayoverlife ... but a 767 doesn't have a parachute!
Isn´t that the former Lufthansa Flight Training facility?
I live just down the road and have been thinking about a career change and signing up this looks amazing and I’ve always wanted to fly and be a pilot but I’ve never had the opportunity this seems like such an amazing one.
I applied! Sounds like a great opportunity.
I went to flight school and dropped out because I couldn't afford it anymore and with my job (which I need to live) I didn't have enough time to get studying in there. I was a Flight Attendant (not the job at time of flight school) for a while, I quit but for other reason that have nothing to do with aviation, it just wasn't for me. But the course to become an FA was perfect! They fly you out to headquarters, they put you up in a hotel for a couple months. They have (at least the airline I flew on) a beautifully structured program to help people learn the material of all learning levels. And ya know what?!?!? I DIDN'T GET LESS THAN A 96% (very specific I know, but I remember because I usually got 100's) ON ANY EXAM THEY GAVE ME. We went to school Mon-Fri (occasionally on Sat for certain drills) 8AM-5Pm,6pm,or 7pm depending on the lesson than went home, studied with our roommates for an hour or two while we ate dinner than did it again the next day. Sat and Sun we studied a bit more in the morning but we also did fun stuff to enjoy ourselves, go out and have a couple of drinks since there was no class the next day and at training we had to start the alcohol rule which was no alcohol 12 hours prior to report time, in this case was 8AM. The way flying courses are structured now is like "here are the books, read the whole book, I teach you to fly the plane, then you're going to take your test, whether you fail or not isn't my problem". This academy is a step up from that. But still Can't afford it and taking loans out will just put you in debt even further. I know maybe it might cost them some money but IF they would structure these programs the way Flight Attendant trainings are I guarantee you won't have a pilot shortage anymore, i'll put money on that. And there wasn't just that one exam we took to be a FA, we took multiple, they should have that too, a lot of testing. Am I saying EVERYONE will make it through, most likely not as the same way in FA, it hurt to see the crying faces of those who just couldn't keep up with the material (then there were those who did stupid shit so I didn't really feel bad for them). But That is just how it is. Never the less, I guarantee any airline to try this and you'll see an increase in pilots within 3 years. Obviously the courses will have to be a bit longer than FA training. But just try it and I'll bet money we wont have a pilot shortage anymore. Sorry for rambling on and on but I had to say that. And obviously it wouldn't be like like "Oh, you passed now go apply to the airlines". If this is with United, you would have to be a pilot for united for I would say a MIN of 5 years, a minimum, maybe longer considering the money they invested in you. If you read my whole argument, please let me know what you think.
The energy is REAL
When this first came out i found contact information and contacted the academy and they told me they were no longer accepting applications due to high volume of applications of people wanting to become pilots.....wasnt the point of this to get pilots, we are at a huge shortage of pilots and you would think they would take everyone.......i was super excited about it but now I am back to square one with wanting to become a pilot
Meu Deus que sonho poder acompanhar seus vôos aqui na tela do meu celular. Daria tudo para poder voltar alguns anos da minha vida e poder ter condições de me tornar um piloto de aviões. Infelizmente fiquei velho perseguindo meu sonho de me tornar piloto..e não consegui. Aqui no Brasil é muito caro se tornar piloto..Deus acabou me reservando o futuro de um mecânico de aviões fracassado e sujo como meu superior me fala.Pelo menos uma parte do meu sonho realizei... todos os dias fico do lado de uma avião...pra concertar é claro! Quando fico no cockpit,fecho os meus olhos e me imagino pilotando... quando abro os olhos me vejo sozinho com meu velho uniforme surrado de mecânico.. outra parte boa é quando chego em casa e faço um vôo no meu computador. Me sinto muito feliz quando estou simulando até mesmo quando meu PC velho fica falhando e travando. Estarei sempre acompanhando seus vôos aqui pela telinha do meu celular e me imaginando pilotando uma máquina como a do senhor. Infelizmente a pessoa que queria ter me visto como piloto de aviões partiu a dois meses..meu querido pai. Bom vou seguindo aqui do chão concertando aviões até onde meu corpo aguentar.
Deus lhe abençoe Comandante..sou seu fã.. Abraços do Brasil. Itamar
I live right down the street.. pass by Goodyear airport all the time!
UAA fosters a culture of intimidation. Many students have been let go after speaking out or complaining to hire-ups for vague reasons, and therefore students currently at the school are too scared to speak out. School management constantly has all eyes and ears open for any sign of dissent or criticism and is looking over everyone’s shoulder.
European Flight Academy starting into a new life ^^
I just got my private pilot in the DA40, emergency decents are fun to do, but we can't go over 129 which feels fast enough. I couldn't imagine hurtling towards the ground at 160 lol
In 1989 I got my PPL in 24 days and spent $1250 for a Jeppesen package with a guarantied check ride in a Part 141 program. The weather was terrible in June. We did a lot of IFR. As in I follow road, I follow River.The school is gone and so is the airfield. Mill Plain Flying Service at Evergreen in Vancouver, WA. Instrument rating followed in 1995 at Republic Airport on Long Island, NY through Caelum Tranquilitatis flight school for 2K. New York air space was super busy to the point where controllers used the word “brake” during transmissions to let you know not to read back and just execute. No GPS. All instruments where dial. NDB approaches really sucked.
That’s my instructor!!
What a great video ❤, can i know how the prices are going on now
I want to be a A320 Pilot for jet blue when I grow up I am studying for my PPL best of luck to anyone else reading this!
Best of luck to you too!
@@lethalcars8055 thank you!
Truly incredible what United has done here! Wish I had this opportunity when I was starting out. Can’t wait until I join this amazing team 🤞
I hope you a person of color or a woman. If not, forget it.
United is the worlds worst airline you will regret it!
@@16sondra Why are you actively spreading this rumor? This is not true.
@@rastaman7260 racism is alive and well my friend
@@rastaman7260 go to their website and find out yourself.
Scott Kirby seems like a great dude and leader
No, a lot of United employees don't think so. He mandated that all United employees had to take the C-19 shots even though a judge ruled that the federal government did not have the authority to require private employers make their employees take the shots.
@@status-xk8kr yeah well in most other industries i'd be on your side, but with air travel i think it's reasonable
@@samholder196 A lot of employees including many pilots quit rather than take those experimental shots so now there is a shortage of workers. For those workers who agreed to get the experimental shots, there have been many who now have serious health issues and some have died when they were previously healthy. Many of us don't want to have their pilots die while we're flying?
@@status-xk8kr wow per statusI 'm very lucky I'm alive, , me and most people I know had all the shots( I've had 4) and not been sick one day!!!(lol) status, don't go outside, the sun may kill you
Looks amazing! I, unfortunately, don't qualify for this program as a Canadian. It's a damn shame.
Just applied, hopeful and excited! Would love to fly 777 for United some day.
Good luck!
Good luck if you’re white. Identify as a Hispanic trans person and they’ll upgrade you in no time.
Do you still need a four year degree if you take this path?
This is excatly where im going to go after college
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So awesome!!
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Do you think there´s good or rather chances for people like me, coming from Germany (in case you manage to get a green card) and directly from their bachelor program? Especially considering that recruiters will probably think about the fact that people might not like life in America and move back after pilot training or some years on the job which is obviously not what United´s looking for given that they probably want everybody onboard to stay with them as long that´s somehow possible in terms of age and health?
Thanks for sharing 👍
Great vlogg thanks for sharing 🤓✈
If I have my PPL, am I still able to get up
to my MEI or commercial over at Goodyear? The website made it kind of ambiguous.
thank you
Great video 👍🏽 Great way to become a pilot too, way to go United !!!!!
If your a woman or person of color.
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one question, do you need to be an U.S citizen or are foreigners accepted aswell (provided they have a green card)?
Can a international student become United Airline pilot
How long would one have to fly for United Express until the transition to United airlines? Is the transition guaranteed? What's the payment like at United Express?
Sadly I'm still waiting for answers on these questions...
@@olivererdle1257 bare minimum 2 years for a United Express partner. The transition from the partner to United is guaranteed. and the pay as a first officer at most of them is around $40-$50K your first year and when you upgrade to captain perhaps at the 1.5-2.5 year mark, you would jump to $65-$80K. Pay depends on how many hours you fly, per diem, profit sharing bonuses, and multipliers on pay if you pick up time obviously. Picking up time on your days off can pay 150%-300% depending on how bad they need a pilot. So flying on your days of can make those numbers wildly different.
And then obviously when you transition, you will make significantly more money your second year at United. somewhere around $150k depending on aircraft and again how much you fly.
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@@maxsaviation9512 From a passenger's standpoint, their hard product and service aren't great. But from a pilot's standpoint, they are among the best in terms of compensation and career.
i had been accepted, but a month ago they still had the bachelors degree requirement upon transitioning to united. so i couldnt afford going to aviate as well as a loan for college. (i had 65k saved up at the time for a different flight school)
my total cost for aviate was 85k without housing, so i sadly rescinded my interest, 2 days later they announced they are dropping the college degree for aviate graduates 😫 . guess ill have to try again at the CFI level. absolutely love the avionics though in your video in comparison to what im training in lol
Housing isn’t included in the cost ?
@@andresmedia8118 its not. Its 85k for tuition + checkride fees, + books and etc, 5% overage.
And then another 1500 per month in living expenses as per their email to me. Total cost is something like 105k
Wait so now we don’t need a bachelors to become a United pilot? Sorry I’m really confused I’ve been hearing different stuff from everyone 😅
@@ayda9382 as of 3 weeks ago if you go to aviate academy and get all your ratings there; you can go to united after 2 years at a regional without a college degree. If you join at the CFI level or regional, and go to their regional, you can go to united without a college degree if you spend 1,000 hours as PIC at their regional
@@jasonwinter7534Thank you very much!
Great video
I'd love to work with you, Paul. Great video.
I thought it was Lance Armstrong talking. That Scoot dude must be his twin :P
Does the airliners make get vaccinated to get hired?
Wow!! Great!
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If they were serious about addressing the pilot shortage, training wouldn't be $70K.
Its actually more than that when you figure in the minimum hour requirement. It’s around $115-125k.
Anyone in this program with a full time job? I'm looking to retire in the next few years, and I'll only be in my early 40s. I would love to get started with prepping for a new career now, and this would be a terrific option. I live in Goodyear, but with a family I have to continue my full time job. I worked throughout college, so I'm no stranger to working while going to school full time even if it's been a while. I'm not sure if working full time while attending this program is even feasible or frowned upon though
Is this program available for international students?
wow!
If I had better vision I would love to fly in hey an airplane that sounds so cool
Hello I have my assessment coming up shortly. Anyone have any pointers of things I need to know? All help is appreciated
did you pass, any thing important or take aways that you wish you would have known?
From the looks of the students you definitely have a leg up if you are a minority when applying. Do the traditional route, get your college degree then go into the military, then apply directly to the airlines.
That "traditional" route doesn't work anymore. The wait time for flight training in the military is very long and they now make you commit 10+ years before leaving to join an airline. The military doesn't want to spend all that money and resources to train you only to have you leave after a few years. That ship sailed long ago.
@@edwink1467Not really… I’m currently an Air Force ROTC cadet and know plenty of pilot selects. Wait time for a typical UPT class is about a year, often less.
If that haircut is included sign me up !
Can you join the program if already have 700 hrs and have gotten training thru a part 141 school thru a CFii
No. You would apply to the United Aviate program; the Aviate Academy is only for people with little to no experience
Wish I could have madee it through the process, I get the feeling I'd probably have better odds of getting in the military flying F18's than getting a seat here or in any of these academy programs. Sucks getting rejected so much in aviation for over a decade now I'm 38 and it looks like I'm going to have to hang this one up but I just don't know where to go from here it's really the only thing that makes me tick. Sucks more getting so far in the process and getting that "No Thanks" letter the day before Christmas. Onto something else I suppose.
Why did they reject you?
@@booneboone9705 Who really knows, canned letter sort of response from them. Que sera sera you know.
@@sebrofc That's ridiculous how you got denied but a woman with Cancer got accepted????
@@booneboone9705 That isn't really relevant, I've moved on.
@@sebrofc Are you still trying to become a pilot?
How long is the entire process from day one to actually being a united pilot?
About 5 years.
Someone explain how this is any different than EVERY path to united.
1. Go to a flight school and pay 50-90k for your ratings? Check.
2. Build time as a cfi, or part 135? Check.
3. Fly for a regional before going to a legacy? Check.
I literally don't understand how this is different than the way we've all been doing it. It's not a cheaper or better or faster way to United. What IS it?
I think the main difference is after you get your private and complete your interview, barring any major problems, you’re guaranteed a job with United. Which isn’t something I ever had going the traditional route.
Airlines need to pay for training or a portion of it for those that meet their qualifications
"Holy crap man" 🤣
"Yeah, you can't do these in the big planes"
Keeping it real. 😂
@@mylayoverlife always keeping it real 🤣
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Just real quick., anyone know how long of a course the whole process is.? Months-years…
On the website it says one year
@@kamdencosgrove3598 yeah I seen also., thanks
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I'm in the process of applying i did my assessment today can anyone tell me what the next step would be ? Also I live on the other side of the coast so I have to relocate to Arizona any tips/advises is appreciated..
I applied but I didnt get in
how did u?
@@jamaicancoder6278 you'll receive an email if you didn't I suggest you email their HR department
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Scared of flying that I want to become a pilot. But I guess I am too old for this transition at my age of 38.
Is this Lufthansa's training facility ?
Used to be, yes
@@olivererdle1257 wonderful work by United by saving this program
Well yes, it's nice, they saved the facility but their program seems like a ripoff for young, unknowing pilot students. That's why I'm waiting for an answer to my question in the comments.
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If they removed Lufthansa training academy they ruined PHX!
do I need a college diploma?
You want more pilots? Make a TV show that goes viral.
Is this program geared toward women and minorities?
I had applied to do this and I got denied for being latino
30 to 40 students per class how did they identify the slackers don't be flying United in a few years
You still have to pay for your own flying lessons, The Academy is just a marketing tool for united.
If your a person of color or a woman, they have sponsors that will pay it for you. Yea, disgusting, right?
Are you serious
@@essel23fly unless your skin color is black, you have to pay.
How to make flight training more affordable: Buy a fleet of Cirrus and charge $80k for training 😂
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I wonder if any 40 year olds have applied to flight school and been lucky enough to fly for an airline?
One of United Airlines First officers STARTED flying for them at age 54. So, yes, peoples 40 and older have successfully gone this route.
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Is there financial assistance for this academy? I have the will but not the wallet.
There are scholarships available I believe!
Do you need a degree before applying to Aviate?
Nope, only a high school diploma or a GED!
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Sad the military/ post 911 bill doesn’t cover this unless you already have a PPL
Are indians eligible?
Lmao they say they want 50% of their students to be people of color or women
No
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Am pretty sure you still have to build 1500 hours, even though it’s their academy 😂😂 ….. that 1500 thing must go‼️‼️🤦🏾….. or make time building free alongside a contract with airline so no one gets hours and leaves.
Reduce that stupid 1500 hour requirement and most of the shortage will be fixed.
$70k!?!?!? For the program. Wow, that is expensive.
This doesn’t account for flying time to get to the minimum hours for the airlines. That will cost you at least another $30k. This is why there is a shortage.
According to me pilot in India paid more than 100 000 dollars and still they are unemployed
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I totally am, but can definitely not afford 100k. (according to the site) even if I could, my families single income. Me.
Barf
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Hello, I have seen this program advertised before. This program takes money from people that don't know any better. As someone in the 121 world you know getting a job at the big 3 is not easy. Takes thousands hours in a jet before you can land a job at UA. You would be better off with buying a C152 and finding a CFI to get your certs and ratings.
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A C152 is between 50-90k to buy, you still have to pay the CFI, fuel costs, maintenance cost, etc. Many of the applications for this Academy are fresh out of high school/college.