If you are lucky enough to have a carry handle on the nose of the ski like I do you can attach your coiled leash there and run it along the deck to a waist belt. I have found this very effective in larger waves I have no business surfing. On a wipeout the ski pivots to a nose seaward position for quick remount and get the hell outta there. Much less tug on the leash than what the midships connection creates.
hi Tom, yep that is the best system for big waves for sure. The advantage of the SeaArc is that it is a system that one can use for both shore break surfing and downwinds (without having to make any changes).
I can see this being OK on a shore break as the pivot point will want to orientate the boat to face seawards and out into deep water. In a downwind run in heavy seas I would rather the pivot point be at the back so the bow of the boat is more inclined to face in the direction I want to travel when remounted. Is that other people’s preference?
Actually Greg, my preference in a DW is to have the leash anchored to the centre of boat (where manufacturers place the attachment point) as your ski then orients at 180 to the wind which is what you need for a remount (and that is how, Oscar, for instance, demos a remount)
@@ForbesRichard Hi Richard, I only say this because the one time I had difficulty remounting was when on a downwind the crests were steep and collapsing due to the wind and this kicked the boat sideways as soon as I remounted and I didn't have time to get into balance. When I manoeuvred the boat perpendicular to the waves i had more time/easier to balance and got started reasonably quickly. I think I need to experience this a bit more to see what works for me but to be honest I was on the edge of my competency that day.
Glad you made it that day ! I forgot to mention that I have twice remounted in circa 20kts on a DW with the SeaArc and in both instances was able to keep the ski perpendicular without any trouble. In 30kts however it may not be so easy.
Greg & Richard - one of the issues that Richard has experienced and shown in his videos with center attached leashes is the amount of leash tug you can get from going/being in the water with your ski broadside to the wind in very gusty conditions. The arc ostensibly would lessen the initial jerk one can get when they fall in and don't have a hold on their ski, both because there is flex in the arc and because the not quite center point mount will tend to channel some of the shock energy into rotation of the ski. It is worth mentioning that SeaArc also offers a rear deck mount anchor/setup. In my limited experience (limited in terms of how often I paddle in extreme conditions, but not limited in terms of the number of remounts I have done) it has always been possible/easy to pull in and grab my ski from the rear when aligned downwind (when I was using a rear deck leash attachment and I did not grab my ski initially) and then turn it for a perpendicular to wind/wave direction mount (which is what I prefer, watching the waves and timing stages of my remount with the waves). I don't have much experience doing remounts in rough conditions with my ski parallel to the wind/wave direction, but I have watched some other surfskiers struggle with that. I have also seen some experienced surfskiers remount so quickly they didn't bother with alignment. So far all of the remount demo videos I have found recommend having your ski broadside to the wind/waves and remounting from the upwind side.
Thanks Paul for the highly considered and detailed response. Have a look at this video for an extreme conditions remote where the paddler (Sharon Armstrong) did not even miss a heartbeat with her remount !!! ruclips.net/video/tv_3mxUAcnU/видео.html
If you are lucky enough to have a carry handle on the nose of the ski like I do you can attach your coiled leash there and run it along the deck to a waist belt. I have found this very effective in larger waves I have no business surfing. On a wipeout the ski pivots to a nose seaward position for quick remount and get the hell outta there. Much less tug on the leash than what the midships connection creates.
hi Tom, yep that is the best system for big waves for sure. The advantage of the SeaArc is that it is a system that one can use for both shore break surfing and downwinds (without having to make any changes).
I can see this being OK on a shore break as the pivot point will want to orientate the boat to face seawards and out into deep water. In a downwind run in heavy seas I would rather the pivot point be at the back so the bow of the boat is more inclined to face in the direction I want to travel when remounted. Is that other people’s preference?
Actually Greg, my preference in a DW is to have the leash anchored to the centre of boat (where manufacturers place the attachment point) as your ski then orients at 180 to the wind which is what you need for a remount (and that is how, Oscar, for instance, demos a remount)
@@ForbesRichard Hi Richard, I only say this because the one time I had difficulty remounting was when on a downwind the crests were steep and collapsing due to the wind and this kicked the boat sideways as soon as I remounted and I didn't have time to get into balance. When I manoeuvred the boat perpendicular to the waves i had more time/easier to balance and got started reasonably quickly. I think I need to experience this a bit more to see what works for me but to be honest I was on the edge of my competency that day.
Glad you made it that day ! I forgot to mention that I have twice remounted in circa 20kts on a DW with the SeaArc and in both instances was able to keep the ski perpendicular without any trouble. In 30kts however it may not be so easy.
Greg & Richard - one of the issues that Richard has experienced and shown in his videos with center attached leashes is the amount of leash tug you can get from going/being in the water with your ski broadside to the wind in very gusty conditions. The arc ostensibly would lessen the initial jerk one can get when they fall in and don't have a hold on their ski, both because there is flex in the arc and because the not quite center point mount will tend to channel some of the shock energy into rotation of the ski. It is worth mentioning that SeaArc also offers a rear deck mount anchor/setup. In my limited experience (limited in terms of how often I paddle in extreme conditions, but not limited in terms of the number of remounts I have done) it has always been possible/easy to pull in and grab my ski from the rear when aligned downwind (when I was using a rear deck leash attachment and I did not grab my ski initially) and then turn it for a perpendicular to wind/wave direction mount (which is what I prefer, watching the waves and timing stages of my remount with the waves). I don't have much experience doing remounts in rough conditions with my ski parallel to the wind/wave direction, but I have watched some other surfskiers struggle with that. I have also seen some experienced surfskiers remount so quickly they didn't bother with alignment. So far all of the remount demo videos I have found recommend having your ski broadside to the wind/waves and remounting from the upwind side.
Thanks Paul for the highly considered and detailed response. Have a look at this video for an extreme conditions remote where the paddler (Sharon Armstrong) did not even miss a heartbeat with her remount !!!
ruclips.net/video/tv_3mxUAcnU/видео.html
what ski is that Richard?
Mike, also the Boost LV