We Need To Talk About The Intersex Experience

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • Pride month has arrived! But while the progress made with LGBTQIA+ rights thus far deserves a resounding “yes kween!”, there’s nothing to be proud about when it comes to the treatment of intersex people. If you want to be a true ally, the intersex community needs your support too!
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Комментарии • 447

  • @jeunearlechino
    @jeunearlechino 3 года назад +164

    Thank you. I'm a survivor of coercive hormone therapy and surgical mutilation. The condition runs in my family, and the stigma is immense even among ourselves. My mum didn't support my refusal to provide "informed" consent at 14, and instead joined the doctor in overruling me. I consented to a surgery, and woke up having had another one. No admission of the additional incision on my operative or post-operative reports. The surgeon refused to ever see me again. It took another surgery, years later to find out what have been done to me. Only 2 countries in the world outlaw infant genital mutilation on intersex infants, Malta and Portugal. That number needs to grow.

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +10

      I'm so sorry that was done to you. If you don't mind me asking, how do you live now? Do you identify with a binary (man/woman) gender?

    • @jeunearlechino
      @jeunearlechino 3 года назад +20

      @@mothboy420I transitioned a long time ago by withholding my VSC from a trans service so I would never have to go back to an intersex service. The mental health team had no idea, mercifully none of the surgeons included it in my reports so I could continue my journey without having to switch clinics.
      I'm generally assumed endosex and binary, and that's ok, but I'm agender.

    • @tReadYT
      @tReadYT 3 года назад +8

      I don't recommend giving the 'Samantha Bee' commenter your contact information. There are a couple of red flags, including the account creation date. I reported it as likely impersonation.

    • @rhianimal19
      @rhianimal19 3 года назад +5

      You are sadly not alone in this. Many Intersex Folks end up receiving lifelong corrective surgeries and care to correct the problems associated with the initial surger(ies) forced on them as infants or children. Others have difficulty PROVING that they were exploited by7 the medical system against their will, and therefore are denied treatment by medical insurance corporations. In fact, this kind of situations can rip a family apart, or cause the Intersex Person to be excommunicated from their family unit when they do not fit the expectations for behaviour assigned to them via those surgeries in their youth, ESPECIALLY so for religiously centered families, and more so if that family's religious beliefs involve fundamentalism of any sort. These kind of external and internal conflicts for Intersex Persons result oftentimes in myriad mental health conditions and suicidal ideation and/or attempts

    • @ruekurei88
      @ruekurei88 3 года назад +1

      Maybe some people will want to watch this. An interview with an intersex person from Vice. Not to take away from the OP's own experiences, but I just thought I'd post it since people seem interested in an Intersex person talking about their experiences.
      ruclips.net/video/0C5hnlCM-j0/видео.html

  • @Psilocybism
    @Psilocybism 3 года назад +174

    Trans kids: I want a gender confirmation surgery
    GOP: NO!
    Intersex children: I don't want a gender confirmation surgery
    GOP: NO!

    • @BeastGuardian
      @BeastGuardian 3 года назад +36

      Heck, trans kids just want puberty delaying drugs. Doctors usually won't do anything irreversible like hormone therapy until you're a legal adult, or old enough to be legally emancipated. They don't do confirmation surgery until your body has finished growing out of safety concerns, generally only after you have reached legal adulthood, though there have been some very rare cases with extenuating circumstances doing surgery on kids in their late teens.

    • @Psychwriteify
      @Psychwriteify 3 года назад +23

      Not even, trans kids that are a ways away from puberty transition by changing their name, pronouns, hair, and clothing. Then puberty blockers that are safe, reversible, and literally developed to delay early puberty in cisgender children are discussed when they start showing signs of puberty.

    • @Psilocybism
      @Psilocybism 3 года назад +12

      @@BeastGuardian very true, yet the Arkansas law says you can't even use blockers. From 12 you can use blockers, 16 you can use hormones, from 18 and at least 2 years you can totally transition. At least that's our law (the Netherlands). I think that's quite reasonable.

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +21

      Funny, that. I'd love to ask Rand Paul about intersex genital mutilation and infant circumcision, since he said the phrase "genital mutilation" in practically every sentence at a hearing for Rachel Levine. I had the opportunity to ask a hostile transphobe in another comments section that very question when he used the same phrase for gender confirmation surgery, and he told me I was "insane" to compare them. (For the record, I don't compare them, since gender confirmation surgery is actually a medical treatment and done with *informed consent.*)

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +9

      @@Psychwriteify I have a feeling that most people who scream about the evils of puberty blockers have no idea that precocious puberty exists (I just visited an endocrinologist friend and noted a book on the subject on her shelf).

  • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
    @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 3 года назад +138

    I'm Trans. I stand by letting folks make informed decisions when they themselves are adults. For pretty clear reasons.
    But, also. Maybe we should destigmatize things so folks aren't forced/ pressured into those decisions

    • @tReadYT
      @tReadYT 3 года назад +16

      I agree! Stop recommending/allowing the surgeries without informed consent. But it's at least as important to remove the stigma, or the kids will have different trauma issues.
      I champion access to menstrual hygiene options, and it's appalling how much maltreatment of girls persists despite legal prohibitions (google "Chhaupadi" for one example). We *have* to discuss the uncomfortable issues openly to reduce the taboo until it's finally eliminated.

    • @TheFeldhamster
      @TheFeldhamster 3 года назад +21

      Don't just destigmatize. You need a change of law that you can legally be intersex on documents like birth certificates, passports etc. Eg. Australia and New Zealand or Germany have such options.

    • @naysneedle5707
      @naysneedle5707 3 года назад +19

      Maybe replace 'when they're adults' with 'when they're old enough to decide'. Since some trans youth are making decisions about their body even prior to puberty.

    • @jacobodom8401
      @jacobodom8401 3 года назад

      @@naysneedle5707 define "When they are old enough"...

    • @naysneedle5707
      @naysneedle5707 3 года назад +2

      @@jacobodom8401 Well, there was a trans girl in my daughter's class at intermediate school, so she obviously made her decision prior to starting intermediate (age 10 or 11). Not being trans myself or knowing any trans people personally, I can only speculate that it probably varies from person to person? I think any decisions about hormones or hormone blockers need to be made in consultation with suitably experienced medical professionals - but not necessarily at a prescribed age and certainly not compulsorily delayed until adulthood, as having to go through the 'wrong' puberty would have extremely damaging consequences for many trans youth.

  • @chronicallykat4920
    @chronicallykat4920 3 года назад +238

    Yep made me cry. Thank you for giving a voice to this. I am someone with long term pain. I have an autoimmune condition that likes to attack scar tissue. So my modified genitals are often attacked. It's torture. I dread this more than a flare in my face. The worst is of course everything at once but it would've been nice to choose.

    • @ThePinkBinks
      @ThePinkBinks 3 года назад +6

      I don't know if it'll help but I've found some cool seed and beauty tricks recently. Things like homemade masks (like facial mud masks recipes) made with home made ingredients and used on scar tissue really help.
      You can make flax seed gel and chia seed gel and use that in a skin treatment. I'm trying to remember which seed is best for anti inflammatory purposes. Aw I've gone hopelessly blank. 😩
      Look into it though? Home made skin products okay? Lots of vitamins, nutrients and cheap seeds and calmer skin. Please look into it. 💕
      Add ground turmeric and other anti inflammatory ingredients to your chosen recipes. Good luck. It's okay to use your home made lotions down there. (Maybe something that doesn't stain like turmeric though.)

    • @ThePinkBinks
      @ThePinkBinks 3 года назад +4

      By the way I'm doing this because of a similar condition minus the surgery which... yeah... I'm going without for fear of angry scars.
      Do you have a channel? I don't mind popping back with info if you're interested (and likely fairly broke like me and can't afford the good skin products).

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +8

      @@wiz9496 WHAT oh my god you're terrible

    • @theshadowherself
      @theshadowherself 3 года назад +16

      @@wiz9496 Since you don't seem to understand context, their genitals were modified without their consent when they were a baby, as discussed in the segment. Not that it would make what you're saying ok if they were trans.

    • @eschwarz1003
      @eschwarz1003 3 года назад +2

      surprised responsible and liable med professionals would do such a surgery until after a person is fully grown; they MUST know there is a risk there, besides the important consent factor.

  • @rachelk4805
    @rachelk4805 3 года назад +56

    Practice these phrases, potential parents:
    "Is there a non-surgical option?"
    "What are the consequences if we do nothing? What are the consequences if we wait?"
    You can always seek a second opinion, and remember, YOU are your child's greatest advocate. Don't be afraid to stand up to a doctor and say no.

  • @bonnierandle5224
    @bonnierandle5224 3 года назад +46

    Thank you for this. A long time friend of mine had an intersex surgery when a child, forced om her by a mother who was appalled that her daughter was not perfect. She suffered with the side effects all of her life. This needs to end.

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 3 года назад +144

    Here's some statistics about the United States: There are roughly 335 million people currently living here, the population is roughly 51% female and 49% male, 62% Caucasian and 38% Minority, 23% under 18 and 77% over 18, 75% Christian and 25% Non-Christian, the average life expectancy is just under 79 years, with 76 for men and 81 for women, there are about 12 births for every 9 deaths, about 8% served in the military, 7% are openly LGBT+, 2% are in prisons, and, most importantly, exactly 100% of us are human beings who should be protected by the rights guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution including the right to vote, yet sadly not all of our elected politicians on both the federal level and across state levels see it that way.

    • @lisam8105
      @lisam8105 3 года назад +7

      Awesome comment. 💚

    • @km1dash6
      @km1dash6 3 года назад +21

      About 0.5%, about 1/2000 people, are intersex, but misclassified as male or female. If that holds, over 1.5 million Americand are intersex.

    • @Psilocybism
      @Psilocybism 3 года назад +4

      And now to make it even more political, let's find the same statistics but then government personnel, especially elected or chosen high officials... I think it will be a total misrepresentation of the US people.

    • @renatheer
      @renatheer 3 года назад +4

      I totally agree, though I do not believe 75% are Christian. I think 25% are registered as other religion, and by default the rest gets assigned christianity. There's a lot of non-religious people not taken into consideration there. They do a similar thing when they assign federal money for religious groups in my country and a lot of us is registered in the church as a default, as a cultural thing, without being personal christian.

    • @leyrua
      @leyrua 3 года назад +1

      @@renatheer Yeah. Especially in cases where someone is registered under Christianity as a child.

  • @queerukuleleplayer
    @queerukuleleplayer 3 года назад +118

    Thank you SO much for speaking about this! As an intersex person this is a serious problem that affects my community!

    • @tReadYT
      @tReadYT 3 года назад +1

      Careful, Lissy. The "Samantha Bee' reply here is from an account created only today. Red Flag.

    • @queerukuleleplayer
      @queerukuleleplayer 3 года назад +3

      @@tReadYT Thanks! I had a feeling that was the case though. Reported the comment!

  • @erinrafferty5659
    @erinrafferty5659 3 года назад +171

    Thank you for giving a platform to this! People, let's not do what amounts to cosmetic surgery on *literal infants* anymore, okay? Especially on such intimate areas that can have such a defining role in how you see yourself. Circumcision, intersex surgery, all of it. Until the kid can tell you who they are and what they want, just leave it alone.

    • @tReadYT
      @tReadYT 3 года назад +23

      I agree so much. It will be years before a child can understand, let alone decide. But one's gender identity and sexuality are such monumental facets of adulthood, that we transgress terribly when we trespass on somebody's agency in forming those aspects of themselves. Removal of an extra toe wouldn't have nearly the same scale of repurcussions.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 3 года назад +4

      aaaaaand there it is. i knew someone was going to turn this into a dig at circumcision. and cue 100,000 youtube keyboard warriors screaming at me for "mutilating" my child.

    • @tree2me
      @tree2me 3 года назад +13

      @@dietotaku you inserted yourself into this discussion. Sounds like you might have some guilt over your decision since you know circumcision is unnecessary surgery.

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +15

      @@tree2me Sounds like that to me as well. Although I too was expecting the mutilation of male-assigned infants to be mentioned in the comments, since if one is opposing genital mutilation of one category of children, it is natural to express one's opposition to all such depredations. Speaking of which, it would be just peachy if the U.S. and Britain actually enforced their laws against mutilating female-assigned children. (Disclaimer for TERFs and other right-wingers: a consenting adult choosing gender confirmation surgery is *not* mutilation, because of the "consenting" part and because it is actually a beneficial treatment.)
      By the way, I'm also against removing an extra toe, providing it isn't causing any trouble, although I agree with the comment above that the repercussions are less severe. And for that matter, I'm against infant ear piercing, although many people choose to have their ears pierced . Just *leave other people's bodies alone.* If you think you own your child's body, then I refer you to Khalil Gibran: poets.org/poem/children-1

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад +3

      @@andrewkohler3707 I have just seen your reply to another comment with '100 % ' Great minds think alike.' ;-)

  • @kaskus7147
    @kaskus7147 3 года назад +110

    Weird how much they say you can't choose your gender and yet here are parents choosing their children's gender.
    If God doesn't make mistakes, then "deformities" wouldn't exist.
    Let's not even get into the whole circumcision thing.
    Weird, I thought they said that gender affirming medical treatment was child abuse.
    Those were the various thoughts I had during this segment.
    I remember watching a day time talk show when I was younger (in the 90's) where people who were given gender surgery as babies to "fix" them. A lot of them talked about how they did feel like the gender their parents chose for them.

    • @emcanet
      @emcanet 3 года назад +24

      Did the parents choose?
      I attended a conference a few years back one of the issues discussed was the number of states where an intersex infants "gender " was decided by the doctor and they were not even required to inform the parents.
      My state was one such state.
      That knowledge really expanded my understanding

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +17

      No, let's please get into the circumcision thing. Genital mutilation is genital mutilation.

    • @NathanielJordan85
      @NathanielJordan85 3 года назад +7

      ​@@andrewkohler3707 Except where it's surgically necessary intervention, apparently. However, that's rare, and circumcision definitely isn't...
      Just saying that like there are some people who CANNOT get vaccinated, there are apparently some infants that require intervention or risk of death (I do believe most would choose mutilation were they able to make the choice at that point...)

  • @car0lineadams108
    @car0lineadams108 3 года назад +25

    I was born with deformed legs and had many surgery done when I was a baby. When I was 7 the doctors wanted to cut off my legs and give me plastic ones. I stopped eating and talking for many weeks until my parents asked me what I wanted. To keep my legs was what I wanted. The feeling of having complete no control over my body has effects on humans. I ended up in a wheelchair my whole life and I have raised two sons on my own, two different fathers because I have bad choice in men. I'm now 46 and I don't regret my decision when I was 7. My body my choice.

    • @tundra1992
      @tundra1992 3 года назад +6

      I'm glad you were able to choose for yourself 🙂

    • @car0lineadams108
      @car0lineadams108 3 года назад +2

      @Samantha Bee
      Hi. Thanks for reply. My email is
      car0line700@xtra.co.nz
      I live in New Zealand. I wrote this comment because I relate to being different even though my story is not the same as being born with different genitals I feel like my experience was similar. Kind regards Caroline.

  • @Seapatico
    @Seapatico 3 года назад +149

    What a great piece. It's a perfect example of what makes this show so good.

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 3 года назад +61

    This story killed a piece of me, and birthed a completely different piece of me. I DID NOT KNOW this was a struggle for people. People were battling for their own existence, WITHOUT MAD PEOPLE HAVING ANY IDEA! FULL FRONTAL 💙✊

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +3

      I'm glad :)

    • @Psilocybism
      @Psilocybism 3 года назад +9

      I'm all for culture but ALL non (life) treatening circumcissions on non consenting children. should be illegal. No one should have the right to make such important decisions about your own body but you.

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 3 года назад +75

    I took a Gender Studies course at Texas Christian University (yes, it's a real course, and no, it's not as useless as Conservatives think), and I read in our textbook at 1 point that roughly 7% of the U.S. population is openly in the LGBT+ community, but only a fraction of them are actually in the T or I categories, so even for Republican politicians and Conservative/FOX News hosts (Tucker Carlson in particular), their anti-transgender propaganda makes no logical sense.

    • @punk2pasture
      @punk2pasture 3 года назад +6

      That is the best comment I have every seen on any platform for transgender rights. I really hope a lot of people read this and thank you for posting it.

    • @lisam8105
      @lisam8105 3 года назад +2

      👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @pinwheelart2825
      @pinwheelart2825 3 года назад +3

      Intersex has nothing to do with the T. Just stop. Let them talk.

    • @punk2pasture
      @punk2pasture 3 года назад +1

      @@pinwheelart2825 hello there. How are you doing? I will be the first to admit that this is all new to me and I really don't want to learn about it through the proper channel. Do you know any websites that would give me the proper information. I appreciate any help you give. Thank you

    • @Ihavebeenwatchingyou
      @Ihavebeenwatchingyou 3 года назад +7

      Why would you assume that the Republicans have any intentions to ever make logical sense?

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 3 года назад +42

    It's deeply disturbing that this segment was so desperately needed. How it's remotely constitutional to pretend that intersex people don't exist baffles me.

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage 3 года назад +183

    "But I do see the appeal. (smug pause)"
    * narrows eyes *

    • @sangriarojo6229
      @sangriarojo6229 3 года назад +11

      I upvoted for that joke... and for awareness.

    • @MattCouzensMusic
      @MattCouzensMusic 3 года назад +8

      "I SEE THE APPEAL"....? 😆
      I support the right of moms to make any dad jokes they want. Especially on a thread about non-binary people.

    • @Killantheblackjewel
      @Killantheblackjewel 3 года назад +7

      @@MattCouzensMusic I appreciate supporting everyone making bad jokes but the words nonbinary and intersex mean different things!

    • @jasonitaliano8631
      @jasonitaliano8631 3 года назад +1

      The pun got me

    • @Robert_Jacobs
      @Robert_Jacobs 3 года назад

      I died

  • @mikesbruv
    @mikesbruv 3 года назад +72

    Was that 10 down votes from people who don't like science? Thank you so much for this Sam and team.

    • @juliahkf
      @juliahkf 3 года назад +7

      Or maybe just from 98 Degrees. 😂

    • @ambeckerful
      @ambeckerful 3 года назад +4

      @@juliahkf lol! All the dislikes are from 98° and other boy bands who wish they got the shoutout

    • @mikesbruv
      @mikesbruv 3 года назад +2

      @@juliahkf is that a True Vibe reference? Sorry just a little slow on the uptake here

    • @coena9377
      @coena9377 3 года назад

      The downvotes were from mole people.

  • @justinharris2320
    @justinharris2320 3 года назад +15

    I said "holy sh#t" or "no-f%&king-way" about 5 times watching this. I learned something new, as well as reflected on the intersex folks I grew up with who obviously altered the way they talked, walked, and dated. Heartbroken by the history, encouraged by the progress.

  • @tReadYT
    @tReadYT 3 года назад +18

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for promoting awareness of (and compassion for) this issue. It's appalling that people are suffering so much when ignorance by the majority can be remedied. Nobody should live in fear that being different will result in harrassment or harm.

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 3 года назад +36

    Related to this is any and all cultural/religious surgeries on kids like FGM and MGM.
    Its disgusting what we do to peoples bodies without their consent and just think next to nothing about it!

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +3

      100%!!!!!

    • @tree2me
      @tree2me 3 года назад +3

      Exactly

    • @KingoftheJuice18
      @KingoftheJuice18 3 года назад

      Male circumcision is an important religious ritual for many. It is much easier and safer to perform it on infants than on adults. Parents have the right to raise their children how they choose (within obvious limits). By the way, a lot more damage is done psychologically by parents than by physical surgeries. Should we require all parents to take classes on proper parenting (and go to therapy) in order to raise children the way somebody else wants?

    • @satyasyasatyasya5746
      @satyasyasatyasya5746 3 года назад +6

      @@KingoftheJuice18 Using a magic man in the sky as a reason to slice parts of a child off without their consent is sick. Do you hear yourself when you make these excuses?! How deep in this cultural indoctrination are you that you think its normal?!
      And no, parents do not or should not have the right to raise their child 'how they choose' for the reason you admit in brackets: within obvious limits. One of those limits ought to be destroying forever, a childs body! That you don't even see it as wrong is proof of how insidious this practice is in normalising itself.
      Are you or are you not against FGM? Tell me that. I dare you to be consistent because chances are, you can't bring yourself to be. These are exactly the same thing. Parents doing things to helpless children because "cUlTurE" and "rEliGiOn."
      Oh, and your "more damage is done psychologically" thing, is a deeply sinister and troubling attempt at derailing the conversation. I think you need to rethink how seriously and thoroughly you take this issue.

    • @tree2me
      @tree2me 3 года назад +2

      @@KingoftheJuice18 Does saying something has "special religious significance" to me give me the right to mutilate another person’s body? Is it really that easy?
      Yes 100% people should go to classes and therapy prior to reproducing.

  • @Sitbear
    @Sitbear 3 года назад +61

    In America even _regular_ boys have their genitals "fixed" for cosmetic reasons.

    • @Jack-ne8vm
      @Jack-ne8vm 3 года назад +6

      Men who were could sue their parents.

    • @pinwheelart2825
      @pinwheelart2825 3 года назад +21

      Yes, that should be illegal as well. 🖖🏽 Some day.

    • @MushiePuppet17
      @MushiePuppet17 3 года назад +8

      I'm pretty sure it wasn't for cosmetic reasons, though. While the actual scientific benefits of male circumcision are debated, the reasons behind many parents' decisions to have their sons get the procedure weren't frivolous. They were based on what they thought was sound medical info.

    • @Sitbear
      @Sitbear 3 года назад +13

      @@MushiePuppet17 Sure, the way denying women the right to vote also was based on "sound info" regarding their intelligence.

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +8

      @@MushiePuppet17 I'm pretty sure it's usually just because of religion though

  • @HlalefangGwate
    @HlalefangGwate 3 года назад +17

    Interesting piece, I'm a member of the community but I couldn't have told you for sure what Intersex meant exactly before watching this. We learn everyday, I thank you

  • @azarahwagner2749
    @azarahwagner2749 3 года назад +102

    💛💜💛 thank you 🙏
    I am intersexed and transgender.

    • @km1dash6
      @km1dash6 3 года назад +5

      +

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +5

      love you 💙💕♡💕💙

    • @avggamer86
      @avggamer86 3 года назад +5

      Serious question: can trans-identities be applied to the intersex?

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +9

      @@avggamer86 while not all intersex people do, many folks also identify as trans (google "pidgeon intersex", the person Sam features in this segment is a prominent trans and intersex person and activist)

    • @ConstantChaos1
      @ConstantChaos1 3 года назад +7

      I'm intersex and I identify as intersex, idk if that's 'allowed' but yeah I am what I am and I'm going to say it loud and proud

  • @lillywho
    @lillywho 3 года назад +43

    The whole surgery idea is extra abhorrent when you consider that those people that are the victim of those procedures are probably going to have heavy dysphoria... Dysphoria that could have been avoided by just waiting until they old enough to be asked what to do if anything.

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +5

      that's how I feel about my parents denying me hormones/hormone blockers oof

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад +5

      @@mothboy420 Personally, if that happened to me I would be more than dysphoric, I would be livid, bitter and resentful towards my parents! Also grieving the loss of what my life could have been if they allowed me hormone blockers and hormones. Understanding their perspective helps, but I would have a heck of a lot of rage to work through! Being denied autonomy over my body, and the opportunity to align my body as closely as possible to my gender to feel more comfortable in my own skin... it seems willfully ignorant and cruel! I hope you can find some peace in representing yourself through your gender now. 💔 💜

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +2

      @@daniellamcgee4251 you get it! I do grieve a lot- I could've avoided surgeries and pain had they intervened when I (and my therapist) asked. Thank you 💞

    • @SDayle
      @SDayle 3 года назад +3

      @@daniellamcgee4251
      You're a wonderful person! ❤️
      Have a nice -day- -week- -month- -year- *life* ! :D

  • @jenniferk9242
    @jenniferk9242 3 года назад +13

    The doctor mentioned in this piece, John Money, also oversaw a horrific case of infant gender reassignment. During a (completely unnecessary) routine infant circumcision, the procedure was botched so horrifically that the decision was made to raise the child as a girl. "Dr" Money reported the results a resounding success, but ultimately as an adult the patient in question committed suicide.

  • @louisthegreat1686
    @louisthegreat1686 3 года назад +26

    Samantha, please, go and do the interview with ContraPoints. Two beautiful sharply minded women... it will be amazing!

    • @andrewkohler3707
      @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +4

      I might fan girl myself into oblivion. ;-)

    • @louisthegreat1686
      @louisthegreat1686 3 года назад +3

      @@andrewkohler3707 me too.
      And I’m a man 🤣

  • @ambeckerful
    @ambeckerful 3 года назад +12

    Thank you for talking about intersex rights! 💛💜💛

  • @lauraska95
    @lauraska95 3 года назад +16

    As an Austrian I can confirm we're the thirstiest country

  • @pidgepagonis
    @pidgepagonis 3 года назад +8

    Thank you Sam Bee for doing a segment on intersex! Thanks for including so many intersex people and voices. ♥️ let’s #EndIntersexSurgery!

    • @skyblanket4000
      @skyblanket4000 3 года назад +1

      yeah, it’s so awesome to see people speak up about us!

  • @WTFPr0m
    @WTFPr0m 3 года назад +20

    I love and support all intersex people, who deserve the same rights as the rest of us, but I will *NEVER* accept fans of 98 Degrees. I'm sorry, but it's just the way I was raised. Specifically, I was raised on Backstreet Boys cassettes.

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 3 года назад +8

    I watch your show, because it is Full Frontal w/ Sam Bee. 🤷‍♂️ You're a funny person, who learned how to dig up heart touching stories. I cannot unhear this segment. I gotta listen a few more times.

  • @PamperedDuchess
    @PamperedDuchess 3 года назад +3

    About time SOMEONE started having this conversation in this capacity on national television.

  • @skyblanket4000
    @skyblanket4000 3 года назад +7

    i am very excited about the representation, and thank you so much for using your platform to promote our rights! the intersex community is extremely underrepresented ;-;

  • @dyskelia
    @dyskelia 3 года назад +3

    there are a lot of people suffering in silence from things I wasn’t even aware of and that makes me really sad

  • @juliahkf
    @juliahkf 3 года назад +6

    I feel directly attacked about 98 Degrees. 😂 I saw them in Allentown, PA in the late 90s! More importantly, Thank you for this important segment and centering Intersex folks in sharing their own stories.

  • @astridrg
    @astridrg 3 года назад +9

    This! I recommend the YT channels Pidgeon and Emilord (they were featured in this segment) to educate yourself more about intersex.

  • @kinsmed
    @kinsmed 3 года назад +35

    Well... I'm left-handed AND red-haired. Does lightning strike three times?

    • @Go4Noctis
      @Go4Noctis 3 года назад +8

      actually yeah lightning tends to strike already charged areas.

    • @realayer
      @realayer 3 года назад

      I used to have red hair when I was a kid, it mysteriously left as I got older. Still apparent in my facial hair if I grow it, but rarely noticable. Charles In Charge was an alright show, but I honestly feel for Nicole Eggert.

    • @ravenrose5712
      @ravenrose5712 3 года назад +2

      You should consider investing in lottery tickets.

    • @adelaide7822
      @adelaide7822 3 года назад +1

      There's a large amount of intersex people who actually don't know, so yeah its definitely possible.

  • @nivedhithaselvakumaran9429
    @nivedhithaselvakumaran9429 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for talking about this.. had absolutely no idea about this classification in the spectrum..

  • @cmw12
    @cmw12 3 года назад +5

    “Or, if you’d like to be radicalized, leave YT on auto-play.” Lol

  • @torbjornlekberg7756
    @torbjornlekberg7756 3 года назад +29

    Wait, this is still being done in a western country? Oh, right, the US is ... what it is.

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад

      Is non-medically needed circumcision still happening in your country?

    • @torbjornlekberg7756
      @torbjornlekberg7756 3 года назад +3

      @@daniellamcgee4251 Legally? I doubt it. Either way, it is far from being the norm.
      Not that one wrong would excuse making an even worse version of it.

    • @torbjornlekberg7756
      @torbjornlekberg7756 3 года назад

      ​@@daniellamcgee4251 ​ Um, counting the votes? Not sure how you saw that in my words. No, I was referring to that I dont think any non-medical genital mutilation is legal in my homeland.

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад +1

      @@torbjornlekberg7756 Oh! Sorry! I will delete my comment! I had a Trump supporter debate going on on another thread, elsewhere!

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад +1

      @@torbjornlekberg7756 Thankyou for answering my question! That's interesting that non-medical circumcisions are rare and probably illegal in your country. I think that is the way it's going, now there is awareness that generally there is no medical benefit. I worked in a children's hospital theater and it almost all boys with religious parents. There definitely isn't a law against it.

  • @timusforlife
    @timusforlife 3 года назад +8

    Huh, I wasn't expecting an Edmonton shout out especially in reference to a 98 degrees show

  • @lunaumbra5179
    @lunaumbra5179 3 года назад +8

    End all medically unnecessary circumcision as well

  • @charlieledbetter42
    @charlieledbetter42 3 года назад +7

    Thank you so much for this segment! Isn’t it ironic that gender confirmation surgeries on informed adults are seen as mutilation and forcibly modifying the genitals of intersex infants is just fine, even medically necessary? (Btw, most are “corrected” to have vaginas because the surgery is less complex.)

  • @MissJoy16
    @MissJoy16 3 года назад +1

    You are the Queen of dark humor and just overall mixing humor with tragedy.
    You do it in such a way that I can feel the seriousness of what you talk about while also feeling "light" enough to actually take action (as opposed to being paralyzed by sadness and/or hopelessness).
    That's a rare gift that I really appreciate. Thank you Sam Bee and everyone on your team

  • @jean-francoisdaignault9612
    @jean-francoisdaignault9612 3 года назад +2

    So amazing to have this important topic discussed with so much respect, kindness and humour. It is a far cry from just a couple decades ago when it was only presented on exploitative and dehumanizing talk shows like Jerry Springer. Intersex people are not "freaks". They are amazing, complex, irreplaceable people, just like everyone else. And like each and everyone of us they make up part of our stupendously diverse natural world. And that's beautiful. Thank you Samantha.

  • @charlesparadis4652
    @charlesparadis4652 3 года назад +12

    Thank you for doing this story.

  • @andrewkohler3707
    @andrewkohler3707 3 года назад +3

    THANK YOU, Sammy Bee!!!! No more genital mutilation on any child, be they assigned-male, assigned-female, or intersex. (And for the transphobes reading this, gender confirmation surgeries performed on *consenting adults* are *not* mutilation.)

  • @anjulikamins6420
    @anjulikamins6420 3 года назад +16

    I don't want to detract from the importance of this piece but I really can't help but look at how lovely Sam is. She's honestly getting more lovely the older she gets. I wanna be like her

  • @xaesalyszimpkee
    @xaesalyszimpkee 3 года назад +1

    One of my favorite arguments I had in high school was someone was saying 'there's only boy and girl male and female XY and XX'. And I said, "okay. So only male and female?" 'yes' "only a binary of XY and XX?" 'yes' "so where does that leave people who biologically fall outside that binary? Do they just not get a gender? Or do we force them to comply within our binary system? The world is not black and white." I feel that's a reason why pride is rainbow. It's living in color. It's seeing the spectrum of grey's in life as the colors they truly are. It was black and white. Now we are evolving. We are seeing the colors of Love

  • @HouseCatTV
    @HouseCatTV 3 года назад +9

    Wait someone is talking about me for once? 😲

  • @SHansen82
    @SHansen82 3 года назад +7

    Sounds obvious to not cut someone without their informed consent. I feel the same way about circumcision, but no real stigma with that either way.

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 3 года назад +14

    Samantha Bee: the VOICE and heartbeat of the minority. 🥰🥰🥰 I have been told I am a man. However, people who are intersexual are also my people.

  • @noone.3532
    @noone.3532 3 года назад +1

    this is a great peice of journalism.

  • @zetazimmer4769
    @zetazimmer4769 3 года назад +9

    I’m glad this like dislike ratio and comment section are going much better than the trans video segment

    • @pinwheelart2825
      @pinwheelart2825 3 года назад +2

      That's because they are very very very different things. Just like being LGB has really nothing to do with T either.

    • @Go4Noctis
      @Go4Noctis 3 года назад +5

      ​@@pinwheelart2825 They all fall under the Gender Non Conforming cluster that seem to be inherent to a minority of individuals. Though the LGBTQIA label is more about group dynamics, cultures, community, and politics rather than some Scientific Notion. To say that Transgender people have been a pillar of the LGBTQIA culture and fight for progress is just a matter of history.

    • @zetazimmer4769
      @zetazimmer4769 3 года назад +7

      @@pinwheelart2825 different doesn’t mean one of us deserve respect and the other doesn’t. A lot of medical literature supports the idea that being trans may be a type of intersex condition.

  • @KizuRai
    @KizuRai 3 года назад +2

    You never miss, Sam. Thanks for still being amazing.

  • @randompatillo4336
    @randompatillo4336 3 года назад +8

    So. How many hospitals readily participate in this sort of thing in states that just passed laws saying kids do not have the agency to go through confirmation surgery?

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +4

      It's not even just surgery, many also banned hormone blockers and hormone therapy for minors (effectively killing trans kids)

    • @julya8061
      @julya8061 3 года назад

      @@mothboy420 effectively assuring that they need to wait, just like intersex people. Children can’t consent to this kind of treatment, but I agree that they need therapy and need to be treated as any other person.

    • @notme9784
      @notme9784 3 года назад +3

      @@julya8061 actually it is not at all a standard practice to provide gender confirmation surgeries for young children. these anti-trans bills target hormone blockers and HRT which can be life-saving and are agreed by the AMA and basically all reputiable medical associations. surgeries generally are not available recommended or offered until teenagers are older.

    • @mothboy420
      @mothboy420 3 года назад +1

      @@julya8061 And anyway, hormone blockers are "reversible" and safe. there's no argument you can make for denying trans youth hormone blockers

    • @julya8061
      @julya8061 3 года назад

      @@mothboy420
      People under 16 year old can’t consent to esthetic treatments. They can’t consent and what they do or not depends on the person responsible for them, we get to the conclusion that this person is denying them the chance to grow up as any other normal child. Modifying a person’s body without their consent, even if it is reversible, isn’t the right thing to do. Kids can’t consent to this kind if treatment. Accepting yourself or changing yourself is a decision. I respect decisions, but only if they are made by people who can consent.

  • @beanxianne
    @beanxianne 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this, very informative. Obviously the reality of people not being accepted and having non-consentual, unnecessary surgeries is horrible, but hopefully, as people actually talk about these things, this will become less common...

  • @dylammack
    @dylammack 3 года назад +1

    2:06 I was a bouncer at that show!
    U of A SUB building! Miss Bee, I may have searched your purse! 🤣🤣🤣🌹👍

  • @paulshipper143
    @paulshipper143 3 года назад +2

    I originally thought.. this was some BS safe piece. But then finishing it... I learn something important. thank you.

  • @rothloaf1980
    @rothloaf1980 3 года назад +11

    Well this schooled me. Just a shame I'm too oft concussed, too drug addled, and too old to remember it all. I have to use my fingers to get LGBTQIA correct.
    Not a dis, nor a joke.
    I think it's time I find a place to sit.

    • @daniellamcgee4251
      @daniellamcgee4251 3 года назад +3

      Please take care of yourself! You obviously have a good heart and an open mind. We need more people like you in the world! You are worthy of loving care, too. It sounds like you have served your time with punishment and self punishment. I hope you give yourself permission to look after yourself. It's never to late to find quality of life. ❤

    • @ShyVioletIsShy
      @ShyVioletIsShy 3 года назад +2

      You're part of the solution, not the problem. Thanks for taking the time to learn about us!

  • @FoxieAdjuia
    @FoxieAdjuia 3 года назад +2

    Wow ! I didn’t know any of this! I am going to call my Representative next we and let them know that intersex human rights are rights this privileged cis person cares about defending , accepting, and normalizing

  • @mypathunfolding
    @mypathunfolding 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so, so much for bringing light to our intersex community members.

  • @cguy96
    @cguy96 3 года назад +6

    Uhm... first do no harm. Any of you doctors remember that?

  • @luisaorozco5824
    @luisaorozco5824 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for this information.

  • @dbo6290
    @dbo6290 3 года назад +1

    wow i posted a long thoughtful comment about a Miss Africa pageant winner that i spoke to in HS. She was a victim of ge n i tal mutilation and made it her platform to bring awareness to the practice.
    It's horrifying that similar procedures are being performed on babies in the United States because parents are fearful of their children looking different. The intensions and reasoning are different but the damage the procedure can do to humans is the same

  • @jesipohl6717
    @jesipohl6717 3 года назад +1

    Please make this part of a playlist on full-frontal.

  • @nicolekenna5193
    @nicolekenna5193 3 года назад +2

    A lot of people don't know they have intersex traits until they are older, during puberty or in treatment for other medical conditions. Doctors unfamiliar with intersex traits may order unnecessary and invasive tests and procedures that don't help the patient at all. I think it comes down to bias that 'normal' is 'healthy,' and that's why we should talk about intersex people more.

  • @maurreese
    @maurreese 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for speaking on this!

  • @hypercombo7202
    @hypercombo7202 3 года назад +1

    This was very informative thank you.

  • @rdtripp6806
    @rdtripp6806 3 года назад +1

    Such a strong and switched-on advocate for LGBTIQ+ from Day One.

  • @davidmburgess
    @davidmburgess 3 года назад +1

    Love this, now do circumsicion next!

  • @gabip157
    @gabip157 3 года назад +1

    I would really love to get the full episodes here I really enjoy your show

  • @jonathanmol4489
    @jonathanmol4489 3 года назад +1

    The most beautiful woman I ever met was intersexed. Her name was Lilith. She was from Tobago and she believed in the Goddess in the Hindu practice. She was 5 ' 4 and drop dead gorgeous! In our intimate moments she had both parts and she was wonderful! 💜

  • @sabarca714
    @sabarca714 3 года назад +3

    I am upset that this issue has not been dealt with at the same time as other issues that plague society, Gender based discrimination, like all discrimination is abhorrent. If you are born this way, express yourself.

  • @kristenwelker6493
    @kristenwelker6493 3 года назад

    A Dinwoodie Lounge shoutout! I'm DYING!!! Hi from Edmonton

  • @MountainMitch
    @MountainMitch 3 года назад

    This video added to my understanding of what it means to be human! Thank you!

  • @jamesoverholt878
    @jamesoverholt878 3 года назад +1

    This piece really generated some questions for me. Do Canadians think the name 98 degrees has something to do with boiling water? Are they billed as 36 degrees when they perform in Canada? I have questions that need answers

  • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
    @twilightgardenspresentatio6384 3 года назад +4

    End male circumcision as well. Dude, just wash better.

  • @ConstantChaos1
    @ConstantChaos1 3 года назад +2

    I have mosaic kleinfelters, im intersex and proud of it

  • @brianmcmanus4286
    @brianmcmanus4286 3 года назад +2

    "I see the appeal." Good one Sam!

  • @AUselessSapphic
    @AUselessSapphic 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @MissJean63
    @MissJean63 3 года назад +1

    The same argument can be made for circumcision.

  • @orringould7367
    @orringould7367 3 года назад +3

    And that group is well known and the DNA is well known

  • @FlorenceFox
    @FlorenceFox 3 года назад +2

    I love how people will fight against trans people who WANT to have surgery, and yet at the same time, be more than happy to perform essentially the same type of surgery on non-consenting children for no medical reason whatsoever.

  • @benadrylthundercrotch7144
    @benadrylthundercrotch7144 3 года назад +1

    I'm sorry Sam, I can't let you get away with that banana joke.

  • @terriem3922
    @terriem3922 3 года назад

    One hospital? That's crazy.

  • @Jack-ne8vm
    @Jack-ne8vm 3 года назад +6

    No circumcisions, let the boy decide later! Did that hospital stop circumcisions?

  • @phanuelfequiere5655
    @phanuelfequiere5655 3 года назад

    Thnx 4 the info. I didn't know about it until I saw this video.

  • @fauxsleuth
    @fauxsleuth 3 года назад +2

    I don’t see how things are going to change when gender reveal parties are the rage. 😞

    • @Newfiecat
      @Newfiecat 3 года назад +1

      I know, right? Naive, overly idealistic me originally thought that gender reveal parties were celebrations for people coming out as trans.

    • @adelaide7822
      @adelaide7822 3 года назад

      @@Newfiecat I wish that was the case

  • @Matt-yp6ez
    @Matt-yp6ez 3 года назад +3

    I was circumcised, so yeah I think all unnecessary surgery at infancy should be banned intersex or not. Why do doctors like mutilated genitals so much?

  • @troynixdorf778
    @troynixdorf778 3 года назад

    Ha ha, I’ve been to a lot of shows at the Dinwoodie lounge at the University of Alberta in Edmonton Canada. I doubt 98 degrees ever performed there, lol. Love the obscure reference!

  • @skyisfalling8173
    @skyisfalling8173 3 года назад +3

    Thank you!

  • @CommanderCodey
    @CommanderCodey 3 года назад +1

    I definitely agree that you should have the right to do surgeries you want instead of parents and medical professionals choosing for you. For example circumsision

  • @blipco5
    @blipco5 3 года назад +3

    I luv u Sam. RUclips has messed with my viewing because I don't have the latest OS. Or something. But, whatever. I've been drinking.

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 3 года назад

      Sam Bee, I have taken town my email (just because) but will help out however I can.

  • @BeGlamourlicious
    @BeGlamourlicious 3 года назад +1

    Stupidity hurts people.

  • @evanames5940
    @evanames5940 3 года назад +1

    Great and all so IMPORTANT

  • @shawn13mertle13
    @shawn13mertle13 3 года назад

    One of the tv news magazines like 60 minutes did a segment on this in the 90's. Most males in my demographic were circumcised when I young. Not a huge deal for me. This is something that qualifies for mutilation charges.

  • @barf_lord_9399
    @barf_lord_9399 3 года назад +1

    I want Samantha Bee and Ben Shapiro to have a boxing match

  • @Bakanogaikokujin
    @Bakanogaikokujin 3 года назад +2

    Along the lines of allowing people to choose whether or not to have "corrective surgery" if they are intersex, should we not also ban non medically necessary male circumcision? Shouldnt cis boys be allowed to be a part of that conversation as well?
    Side note, female circumcision is not circumcision, it is genital mutilation and beyond question it should be banned.

    • @beth8775
      @beth8775 3 года назад +2

      Folks who oppose gender assignment surgery for intersex infants generally also oppose any other sort medically unnecessary surgery for those who cannot consent.

    • @Bakanogaikokujin
      @Bakanogaikokujin 3 года назад

      @@beth8775 oh thats good to know. Thank you!

  • @jazzwhitney3333
    @jazzwhitney3333 2 года назад

    This is the craziest thing I ever heard. So babies are capable for making their own decisions?