The First* Time A '59 Burst Was Reissued | 1981 Gibson Les Paul Heritage Series Standard 80 History

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  • @Icantdrive55
    @Icantdrive55 Год назад +2

    That really is a great example, it sounds really good for 70’s and 80’s Rock. Best sounding LP I’ve seen on your show for a while.

  • @jubei7259
    @jubei7259 Год назад +5

    Those pups sounded fantastic. Great clarity for the cleans & that sweet, all too-familiar growl that you want from the dirt. Perfect!

  • @jimandrison9400
    @jimandrison9400 Год назад +15

    What is the most accurate Gibson 59 reissue? Can we get a video of a side by side comparison of the accurate reissue with an actual 59?

    • @toddflowers8052
      @toddflowers8052 Год назад +1

      The problem is they are all different (OG's) The tops were hand carved and the necks are all different because they are hand shaped and sanded ....hence many variables.

    • @Squall6575
      @Squall6575 Год назад

      If you want an accurate construction, look at a japanese brand. The custom shop tokai (tokai ls200 and above models), Navigator or Crews will be constructed to the exact right specs, if you go high end enough, you get the exact same woods like Brazilian rosewood and Honduran mahogany. You wont get that through gibson. However, depending on the brand, you may need to replace pickups as the originals are ok but not great, same as gibsons

  • @Johnsormani
    @Johnsormani 11 месяцев назад +1

    I own a very clean honey burst 80s standard and it's the favorite les paul I own. The pickups are awesome and it looks great as well

  • @Kahuna54
    @Kahuna54 Год назад +7

    As always, I learn something new from Austin with each episode! Thanks for what you do!🙏

  • @jonathanhudak2059
    @jonathanhudak2059 Год назад +9

    That's a great looking Les Paul and in amazing condition for its age! Nice score Trogly.

  • @guitartech-uk
    @guitartech-uk Год назад +4

    Hi Trogly, I purchased my heritage 80 new in January 1981 from Selmers in London, I never saw another one in a shop, unfortunately I part exchanged a White 61 SG Special that was a really great guitar, but for years I had wanted a Les Paul, silly me. I remember reading in a music mag at the time (possibly International Musician or Guitar Mag) that the reason the body size is different because Gibson took the measurements from a 1953 Custom Les Paul not a 1959 burst, this also made the horn slightly thinner because the 53 Custom had the thicker binding that changes the shape slightly on Customs horns (not quite so rounded) I can't remember the writer but it makes sense to me how the mistake could have been made.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад +1

      The elites measured 436mm by the way...

  • @engelsjn
    @engelsjn Год назад +3

    My favorite type of episodes. Love the 70’s and 80’s les Paul’s 👍

  • @johnnyennis9864
    @johnnyennis9864 Год назад +1

    Your guitar playing is excellent! Great review! This is a dream guitar for me.

  • @kennygardner5041
    @kennygardner5041 Год назад +1

    I had one and LOVED it. The Standard had a three piece neck but mine was so well bookmatched you had to look to find the seams. The Shawbucker bridge pickup was awesome! I got the guitar used. The beck pickup was sent to Duncan and was “ Seymourized”. This was when Seymour was not making pickups for sale but would rewind yours to what you wanted. Great guitar!

  • @criskatan
    @criskatan Год назад +1

    This is the best so far, as far as the sound, that I've heard from any of your reviews.

  • @davidrees1840
    @davidrees1840 Год назад +1

    I have one and love it. Thanks for explaining the sig inside the cavity -mine is "star FL" without the +😢. The wiring is not 50s, but is very easy to mod without changing anything but solder points. Thanks Austin!

  • @WilliamHaisch
    @WilliamHaisch Год назад +1

    Thank you Randy Leonard for sharing his experience and insight!
    Thank you Trogly for documenting Gibson guitar history!

  • @WilliamHaisch
    @WilliamHaisch Год назад

    17:53 I think the buttery smooth neck pickup sound could be attributed to moving the pickup further away from the strings. I love that butter tone and I set my Strat pickups flush with the pick guard and my humbuckers almost flush with the pickup mounting rings.

  • @edwardmiller3469
    @edwardmiller3469 Год назад +5

    Beautiful guitar!

  • @MrMikepresley
    @MrMikepresley Год назад

    @12:55 the Les Paul Model silk-screen on the headstock is positioned lower than it would be on a true 59 burst or even the current re-issues.

  • @joellemaster998
    @joellemaster998 Год назад +2

    these heritage 80s standards were good enough for mark knopfler and neil schon. i have loved many of these guitars that ive heard,and to my ears they can hang with the modern historics!

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад +1

      Along side with dave murray, Adrian vandenberg, Paul Stanley , john Denver ( which rarely used electrics used a heritage 80 standard) and many more...

    • @larryc835
      @larryc835 Год назад

      I would imagine Johnny Winter, Scott Gorham and Brian Robertson used these.💯🔥

  • @karlmeredith5134
    @karlmeredith5134 Год назад +1

    I have a Tobacco burst Standard. However this is an extremely rare standard as it has a one piece neck and not a three piece. The reason being I can only assume they ran out of three piece necks so had to use ones made for the Elites. I love it. They didn't do too bad of an attempt at a true '59 apart from using three piece necks and the sharp cutaway. mine does weigh a tonne though, over 10lbs

  • @riche.6660
    @riche.6660 2 месяца назад

    I have an Elite which is a great guitar.
    There were some exceptions to the normal specs which were that the Standards had flame tops, 3 piece necks and rosewood boards and the Elites had curly maple tops 1 piece necks and ebony boards.
    Mine is one of the oddballs which has a red flame top, 1 piece neck and ebony board.
    I like Ebony fingerboards, there's less chance of it wearing like rosewood can (specially around the cowboy chord area) it doesn't seem to dry out and need oiling like rosewood and I find it easier to clean too.

  • @FangPaw
    @FangPaw Год назад +2

    Fun facts (which may or may not be true) - the Heritage 80 series were made with the last of the Gibson's wood stocks from the 50's; and Elite 1-piece neck was made from quarter-sawn timber. Also, the control covers were brown plastic, not black.

  • @dboone7670
    @dboone7670 Год назад +2

    I've never cared for heritage cherry burst or flame tops, but there's something about this one that is very appealing. I think it sounds great, too. I was thinking "Damn. This one even sounds better than a lot of the LPs Trogly shows off." I chuckled when he mentioned the pots and how the guitar sounds off to him. Different strokes

  • @DrkStar47
    @DrkStar47 Год назад +1

    What a gorgeous well kept well played guitar. The Shaw PAFs sounded really good to me, though I’m sure better pots would make them monster. I appreciated a little “Blackdog” in the demo too. Thanks for the great info Trogly.

  • @derekh3126
    @derekh3126 Год назад +1

    Wow! That is a birth year and day les Paul for me. Couldn’t afford but that would be a unicorn for me for sure. I can at least watch this video and know it exists.

  • @pdbordelon
    @pdbordelon Год назад +3

    Trogly, I love your videos.Would love for you to do a video telling us why Gibson are your favorite guitars and how you first became obsessed!

  • @rindred
    @rindred Год назад +3

    I gotta say those Tim Shaw's have "that" Les Paul sound. It sounds exactly like what an LP on a 60s/70s rock record did; balanced (with a little work), clear, smooth, with all the best mids. I can see why someone would want one (separate from that awesome top).

    • @scottnathanphoto
      @scottnathanphoto Год назад

      I own a Heritage 80 and respectfully disagree. They're nice and sparkly clean, but no balls in the crunch department.

  • @itachisenpai6636
    @itachisenpai6636 Год назад +1

    héritage 80 standard are made 1100 guitars........plane top.
    héritage 80 élite are made only 300 worldwide........hand curved top
    these are one of the best ever made gibson guitars. super collectables. the mojo is unique on these

  • @avivpinto4013
    @avivpinto4013 Год назад +2

    they were the limited edition guitars of the era...apx 1500 made..kind a like a custom shop of the day. Perfect top carve, best
    woods gibson had at the time ..the tim shaws were designed for these reissues...the ones in this video are the real shaws ( the two row screws are not shaws) Great guitars!!! the Headstock angle is 17 degrees which was a unique feature back in the day . the goldtops are the rarest as only a handful of them were made. In my ears they sound better than the reissues
    Cheers

  • @glaucosouza1971
    @glaucosouza1971 Год назад +1

    It seems that the current iteration of the 59' reissue is one of the best ever, if not the best.

  • @michaelwillinger
    @michaelwillinger Год назад +1

    Those pickups sound killer! I really like them.

  • @simonpark843
    @simonpark843 Год назад

    Chatoyant! I really liked the way this guitar sounded, and your playing is improving all the time.

  • @sonicaids
    @sonicaids Год назад +6

    these are older now than the 59's were when the "reissue" was made.

  • @paulrogers6037
    @paulrogers6037 Год назад +2

    I was in a band with a guy that had a "Kalamazoo" engraved truss rod cover, that came new with that. Not "KM," but "Kalamazoo." Always wondered what was special about that model.

  • @woodybowen5362
    @woodybowen5362 Год назад +1

    Trogly mentions multiple times his favorite Gibson knob are these UFO style. I personally prefer the gold speed knobs on most of my Gibsons. My favorite tuners are the Grover Rotomatics with kidney beans . I really don’t care for the Klusons. Different strokes but the period I came up in. 15:30

  • @danriley5848
    @danriley5848 Год назад +1

    That is one beautiful guitar.

  • @zigzagrz
    @zigzagrz Год назад

    These have been on my wish list for a while... I do have a prehistoric les paul custom (1992) and it does feel different, in a better way, than my other custom

  • @stevenleitch8681
    @stevenleitch8681 Год назад

    Lovely guitar and sound 👍

  • @gitarbrettet
    @gitarbrettet Год назад

    To me the top carve is one of the most important design features of a Les Paul. So important in fact that the "wrong" carve on my 76 custom bugged me so much that I had to take an angle grinder with a flap disc and make my own top carve :P A lot of work but it turned out pretty good! Probably devalued the guitar a bit, but it was a players grade guitar and it is my work horse, NOT a collectors item :)

  • @Suddsy.
    @Suddsy. Год назад +1

    Sounds amazing

  • @dongiovanni-m3i
    @dongiovanni-m3i Год назад

    I have a factory blk 82 lp w the nickel abr, thin binding, Shaws, deep dish carve, 1pc mahogany neck w skinny headstock, and nickel hardware. I love weird Norlin prehistoric offerings. Btw nice Heritage.

  • @larrynoe6162
    @larrynoe6162 Год назад +13

    The mighty Zeppelin

    • @leviathan_is_me
      @leviathan_is_me Год назад +2

      He was playing it a little too long....he MIGHT get a strike...hope not.
      Edit: being facetious

  • @r33th
    @r33th Год назад +1

    Jesus that is a drop dead gorgeous Les Paul

  • @oswaldocampoverde4492
    @oswaldocampoverde4492 Год назад

    Thank You very much, for that great review and history lesson. Very well done!

  • @adriancarroll6995
    @adriancarroll6995 Год назад

    Beautiful, sounds good too

  • @samiam5557
    @samiam5557 Год назад +2

    Troggy gets hard on a LP Heritage Series Std. 80!

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 Год назад +1

      "I my Goodness".....getting a Woodrow

  • @NinerFourWhiskey
    @NinerFourWhiskey Год назад

    The original vintage 1959-1960 bursts had 500k/500k pots. The lower ohm (300k/100k) were a response to the mahogany getting heavier and denser over the years, and the switch to alnicoV and ceramic magnet pickups, which makes them overly bright. The lower ohm pots make the guitar darker.

  • @monstrok
    @monstrok Год назад +1

    I can confirm that my R9 does indeed have a 17.25" long body. Well spotted on your example!

  • @autoflowerhour6661
    @autoflowerhour6661 Год назад +1

    Historically, I believe only the gold top and ebony were available. My DC reissue has a few things that aren’t period correct too but those tops!!! AAA or AAAA.

  • @adiohead
    @adiohead Год назад

    Sounds great!

  • @capturelightmedia
    @capturelightmedia Год назад +1

    I absolutely love dings, scratches and other signs of love and use. Why are you so opposed to these lovely details?

  • @dananthony6258
    @dananthony6258 Год назад

    The pointy horn cutout was the first thing my eye went to when you pulled it out of the box. I knew it looked to pointy. I’m a freak.

  • @markoxford81
    @markoxford81 Год назад +1

    There's one of these on Reverb where the serial number dates to my birthday. I want it sooo bad!!

  • @marions.120
    @marions.120 Год назад

    I have one and I love it! Had the choice between selling it or my Page Les Paul. Bye Jimmy, and it was (is) a great guitar. Play my Heritage in two bands right now. p.s. Has an ABR-1 put on it. ✌️😎🎸🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Год назад

    I'd love to know if this model or something like this was used by Paul Stanley on the Hot in the Shade Tour. He had a few of these he'd play on that tour. They all had gorgeous tops.

  • @marclafferty6416
    @marclafferty6416 Год назад

    This guitar is six days older than me. This would make a perfect birth year guitar for me.

  • @assyntek5193
    @assyntek5193 Год назад

    @The Trogly”s Guitar Show how would you compares the quality of Custom Shop Historic 59s pre 2018 vs the new ones CS 2019+ ? Why LP59s Historic Collections are more expensive than a brand new CS?

  • @howardw3223
    @howardw3223 Год назад

    Great video Austin

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Год назад

    I know purists will say “It must have a 1 piece neck! (Technically 3 because of the headstock wings)” But, a multi piece neck should have more stability in the long run since it’s got more structure to it. Plus you can get some fun wood grain mixed in, my SE Custom 24 has a crazy flame maple center on the 3 piece neck!
    Edit: 300k pots worked for me on a guitar that had coil splits, really evened out the massive volume drop between hum and single.

  • @larryc835
    @larryc835 Год назад +1

    Want a whole lotta' love.💯👏👍🔥Gorgeous axe.

  • @matthewotremba9230
    @matthewotremba9230 Год назад

    Your making me want a Les Paul again , but , been there , done that . Had many , and found that I like Bolt on Flat Top guitars
    Been playing since 1978
    I have a Gibson Invader that just Kills

  • @Shiznitt_
    @Shiznitt_ Год назад

    What a top! Very nice condition for the vintage

  • @MrNobody-fk7fc
    @MrNobody-fk7fc Год назад

    I'd like to see a breakdown of the 2019 LP Traditional (Heritage Cherry, just for good measure).

  • @mikestroud9969
    @mikestroud9969 Год назад

    Beautiful 😎👋👋💯

  • @GeneralKeecap77
    @GeneralKeecap77 Год назад

    I have an early one second serial 0099. Pickups look a tad different but same certainly Shaws as they were all advertised with them. Maybe has a lot of curls in the maple like an elite

  • @hifibrony
    @hifibrony Год назад +1

    It may not be an accurate '59 but it's a great-looking and good-sounding LP.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад

      And sounds better than most modern reissues

  • @rawspaghetti9185
    @rawspaghetti9185 Год назад

    Good choice of songs to play with a 59 !

  • @tykit9230
    @tykit9230 Год назад +1

    She's a keeper

  • @rikkr1307
    @rikkr1307 Год назад +1

    We all have to go one day. Trogly will have a Gibson Les Paul in his hands. 👍

    • @JudySucks
      @JudySucks Год назад

      With my luck I’ll have a Chibson in mine

  • @gibsondcxpl85
    @gibsondcxpl85 Год назад

    A lot of people find that the Shaws are a bit harsh with 500k pots and sound better with 300k volume and 500k tone. YMMV. But that guitar is a great find!

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Год назад

    Trogley. Are there three pickup Paul's with circuitboard pickups?

  • @austindavis8489
    @austindavis8489 Год назад +1

    That top 😮

  • @Win7ermu7e
    @Win7ermu7e Год назад +1

    Damn that is a nice flame top.

  • @rexrathtar3893
    @rexrathtar3893 Год назад

    Great guitar. The top rocks and looks to be in tidy shape, despite those gouges.

  • @stephenstevens6573
    @stephenstevens6573 Год назад

    Sounds like a keeper to me!

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 Год назад +1

    As far as the tops I like a good flame top but a quilt top especially the one you compared the feature guitar to has that gorgeous top the dances and mesmerizes. Both are beautiful guitars. And I wouldn't mind owning one or both. They would definitely be played. I've bought a few guitars from C&M back in the day that thought me to really examine the axes. They tended to have handling damage. Some which was really bad. Those tuners look more like milk kettles to me rather than milk bottles. I love that warm sound those pickups create . It's full but not so think that it sounds muddy. I saw where one guy on a forum said that Les Pauls no matter what model aren't good for playing metal. I don't know what rock he'd been having his head under but this guitar and bands at least as early as Led Zeppelin to bands that have stood the test of time like Metallica have proved how wrong that guy was.

    • @bucknasty69
      @bucknasty69 Год назад

      I love the “you can’t play x genre of music with y guitar” debate. It really doesn’t matter. Some may be more ideal for certain genres, but at the end of the day, they’re all electric guitars, and they all work the same.

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 Год назад

      @@bucknasty69 yes . I've heard to many Gen z hate on bands like the Beatle a ND Zeppelin saying neither have contributed to today's music. And how they think what is now being called pinch harmonics is new to their generation. Then I ruin their day and give them examples of bands who have credited bands like Beatles and Zeppelin as main influences. Many of which they love. And I further go on to teach them of bands that had been doing pinch harmonics before it was called that.

  • @noahtrock
    @noahtrock Год назад

    Whoa! NOW I understand why everyone tries to duplicate Tim Shaw sound! Now that I've heard it, I can't unhear it.
    Yes, the pots do make them sound choked. Easy swap.

  • @keithmatry8939
    @keithmatry8939 Год назад

    Love those PAF...

  • @DDE_ADDICT
    @DDE_ADDICT Год назад

    that is awesome

  • @kasimirokaz3775
    @kasimirokaz3775 Год назад

    Ever thought of getting the neck and headstock angle?

  • @alexguitar841
    @alexguitar841 Год назад

    My only gripe with these guitars is that they used 300k pots if i remember correctly which gave them a dark, kinda "muddy" sound. Definitely not a tele on steroids tone. I might be mistaken though, its been quite a ling time since i got to play one of those.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад

      Easy change to 500k delivers that burst tone in spades...i have one

  • @robroymenzies8641
    @robroymenzies8641 Год назад

    I like the big honkin' valute!

  • @jameshughes6049
    @jameshughes6049 Год назад +1

    All right all right everybody!!!

  • @adrianr2312
    @adrianr2312 Год назад +3

    Hey everyone!

  • @scottnathanphoto
    @scottnathanphoto Год назад

    I bought two of these new in '81. One goldtop. One black. I sadly let the black one go, but am told it's in the custody of one James Iha. I don't play it much, as the Shaws have no balls and the frets are too flat. It's too rare to mod, so it mostly sits for now.

  • @leahcaudill6559
    @leahcaudill6559 Год назад

    Nice one.

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 Год назад

    Good video

  • @heavybrett-al4082
    @heavybrett-al4082 Год назад

    Wow that's a great top

  • @chrisburch3808
    @chrisburch3808 Год назад

    3 piece neck is actually an improvement over vintage spec though

  • @ashleyjackson8538
    @ashleyjackson8538 Год назад +1

    Good condition for an 80s guitar

  • @facurojas4477
    @facurojas4477 Год назад

    That was a nice "Good Riddance" interpretation

  • @papasmamas1
    @papasmamas1 Год назад +1

    Gorgeous top, but that pointy horn, makes it look so goofy.

  • @blodpudding
    @blodpudding Год назад

    I got a fun idea for you: when demoing guitars you could look up one or a couple songs from that year and play a bit of them. Adds a bit of variety and it's "vintage correct" 😂

  • @thomassawicki2065
    @thomassawicki2065 Год назад +1

    Seemed to me, you could not buy agood Gibson or Fender in the 70's and 80's.I fee fortunate to have my 2021 Les Paul Standard 50's with an AAAtop.
    It is close to a 50's LP and it was $2500 from sweetwater on discout.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад +1

      The modern gibsons is in no competition with those heritage 80 series

    • @thomassawicki2065
      @thomassawicki2065 Год назад +1

      @@avivpinto4013
      I never played a better guitar than my 2021 Les Paul.
      I also have a $10,000 2012 L5 , and a 1997 Es 165 .
      I been a Jazz guitarist for 45 years . I can read and write music, I am a bandleader.
      So if you think my Les is "No Competition" , OK.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад

      @@thomassawicki2065 same here. To each his own. All good. Especially when i compared the heritage 80 series to 50's les Pauls i am good with my assessment...not saying your experience is lesser than mine. Cheers

    • @thomassawicki2065
      @thomassawicki2065 Год назад

      @@avivpinto4013 Pinto ,I am curious, have you played a heritage series 80 , and a 50's Les Paul ?
      I live in Hawaii so this is the boondocks for fine Jazz guitars.
      I can say my Les Paul has the nicest Jazz tone , with 57 Classic p'ups, the intonation is perfect, it is also flawless in build, and is a thing of beauty with the nice flamed maple on top. These were a special run by Sweetwater with AAA tops and the 57 classics.. They have sold out.

    • @avivpinto4013
      @avivpinto4013 Год назад

      @@thomassawicki2065 yes my friend...on many occasions i brought my guitar and a friend of mine brought he's real 50's les Pauls. The heritage 80 held it's own. I am telling you grab one if you can...the bodies are made out of the old growth mahogany...real gems

  • @Calbertone
    @Calbertone Год назад

    thats a cool les paul even if not entirely specs correct!

  • @adriancarroll6995
    @adriancarroll6995 Год назад

    That’s cuz most people that were any good used the neck pickup to do most everything. The treble is secondary.

  • @bonjourtag
    @bonjourtag Год назад +1

    How come no more black light especially on older models?????

  • @VidMashUp
    @VidMashUp Год назад +3

    The Nashville bridge is better in all respects. I don't know why you say things like "you could fill those holes in an upgrade to an ABR-1" A NASHVILLE BRIDGE TO AN ABR-1 IS NOT AN UPGRQDE!

  • @JohnMaag-f3t
    @JohnMaag-f3t Год назад

    I bought a Standard 80 but it came with a Standard 80-Elite truss rod cover. Go figure

  • @miked3317
    @miked3317 11 месяцев назад

    There s a reason why the cavities are shielded. The pots and wiring are not connected to the bridge or stopbar. That means that if you retire the steel shield you ll have to connect the pots to the bridge somehow. I did that on my 82 elite and it s invisible. Because without wiring everything to the ground (yourself) it s quite noisy when recording so to wire the pots to the bridge (standard today) is recommended. That guitar is different because the electrocutions that happened on stage during that period. I love the ebony fretboard. Had mine for 38 years. I wouldn’t sell it for a world. Is it the best lp I ve played? No. But I m attached to it. It has flaws and it s naturally reliced, the shaw pickups are wonderful. Very vintage sounding. The Nashville bridge isn’t an issue, there are adapters available if you want to get another type. Mine has a Faber bridge and an Aluminium strings-holder, lighter too, which is appreciated because of those are often on the heavy side. The guitar might not be a 100% 59’ reissue but it s a beautiful Les Paul in its own right. To compare it to a modern reissue is quite stupid as I see it, it s not why you get one of those. Mine is like a friend that has followed me for 38 years, with its flaws and its beauty, I would never swap it for a modern 59. 😉

  • @vincentrandles8105
    @vincentrandles8105 Год назад

    Like yourself i loves me a single cut! But I'm so tired of hearing people say that this Les Paul, or that Gibson has a "VIBE" you guys - just stop - okay?!

  • @RickMichaelis63
    @RickMichaelis63 Год назад

    😎Ax Trog🙏✌️❤️