This is such a cool system Shaun. When I have green house. I would like do something similar for some of my staple chilies so I can use my soil space for other plants. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I am excited to see how big these plants get.
Looks to me as though your season of fun is well underway Shaun! You have a couple fine growers to follow along with too in Peter and Khang... both very seasoned growers. Here the weather may be warm enough next week to set in the season's worth of onions. Plants still a few weeks out. Stay Spicy! -Bob...
Thanks Bob. Hopefully you have some warm weather on it way! I'm looking forward to some sunshine...I can just imagine how badly you are looking forward to it!
@@ChilliChump Snow has been melted off for about a couple weeks now, that it was snowing again last Saturday evening. Still frost over the weekend coming at night. But still is enjoyable being out in the garden space, barren as it still is lol.
That is some serious super-sizing! Nice build, using bilge pumps is a great choice, and how you've circumvented the siphon effect is simple yet clever. I will be awaiting any updates on these plants with much curiosity.
That Dorset is gonna beast out in that thing. Looking great dude. Guess I can plant out now that you guys are well underway! Cheers to a really interesting growdown!
Another fun and fantastic video Shaun! I loved all the content. One thing I learned for sure from this video is, you are way smarter then me. I will just bow politely :). Thank you for all the work you put into this and for sharing with all your community. Super cool! Stay Spicy! V/R Shane
My season has slowed down. When the inland desert gets really hot initially, the marine comes in thick and stays cloudy almost all day. May grey and June gloom
My season is off to a bad start Here in Houston, TX. I planted 2 of each in a small garden, jalapeño, cayenne, and haberano. They took root, and then it started raining almost every day, and the temp has dropped to the Low 50's at night. Our last day of frost is supposed to be late May, early April. The plants are now turning yellow fin all the rain.
You mentioned all my subbed pepper channels, except Rob at "7 pot club", thanks for another video. Also the hardest part in my area is the nutrient solution gets to warm, unless i can keep it in the ground.
A simple hack to stop syphoning is to drill a 10mm hole in the pipe at the top of the bend, I used the same bilge pumps on a water ballast system and the 10mm hole works a treat. That Naga will be a beast of a plant 👍
Good idea. Happy to do it. The original video for this was about 25 minutes long. But experience has taught me that people won't watch that long. So cut it quite a bit.
That blue pot is doomed to fail. it is best before end of January 2023! it is expired! 🤪And what's above "master"? is the 220 litre an "overlord" bucket? 🤔Will be fun to see how these plants turn out!
I have noticed in a couple videos you use your phone to scan a barcode on a container. I am guessing you have a database system of some kind. Do you have a video on it or do you have plans to make a video on it. I'm very interested in this
@@ChilliChump OMG, thank you. Had just recently found your videos so been working my way through them while the peppers grow. Figured if you didn't have a video or wanted to keep it private I would just program my own. Just wanted to make sure before spending the time then finding the program later
Hi great vid as always. A question regards the timing of the flood and ebb, you have it set at 3 hourly intervals, Are you using that just for the monster set up or in general in you hydroponics? I copied your flood table from an earlier tutorial and it works great. Last year was a disaster. Got the nutrient mix wrong life got in the way and my tank ran dry! Gloom. So this year fresh seeds new start but just wondering about the every 3 hours Flood. The chillichump Jalapenos in pots did great though. Regards Keith
3 hours is a good general interval when using hydroton clay pebbles. If you were using a different medium you would need to adjust the timings. Good luck with your setup this year! Glad to hear my hydro table worked well for you. I am thinking of making a new one for my current setup 👍
@@ChilliChump I tried dwc in my poly tunnel with a black tub and got terrible root rot. You live and learn eh! I did use some beneficial bacteria and it did get rid of most the root rot.
@@BlackJesus8463 I had a solar air pump to an air stone which probably just pumped hot air into the water. I ended up changing out the nutrients, covered the pot in foil tape which really did reduce temps then added beneficial bacteria. The plant came back but It didn't really grow that well. It was a good learning curve. It's always good to try different things. The main issue with full hydro outside is maintaining the res temps.
This has been a fun build. And so far has been performing great. Do you think it has a chance to beat Pepper Geek? Don't forget to check out @pepperdactyl (Peter Stanley) and @KhangStarr ! ⛲Bilge Pump geni.us/ecobpump ⏱️Timer Relay geni.us/timerrelay 🛟Float Switch geni.us/flswitch
nice setup I personally don't like using a double pump system it just becomes overly complex imo so I went with a gravity draining system and use a self priming pump to supply the buckets and use a spillway as a return to set the water height and once the pump cycles off it drains the buckets back through the pump you just need to use a big enough pump to push that weight and has its in/out high enough to brake the suction without draining the casing and It can re prime no problem just make sure it has no internal check valves and its g2g
If you have a look at the system I built a few years back, it is a gravity drain system. It introduces a few issues that I am trying to avoid with this system. By the end of the season, the system required constant maintenance due to the root system.
Love your videos. I don't know how to DM so I'll ask here. Have you any experience with Caribe peppers? I put them in a jar yesterday. Today they are bubbling like theyre carbonated. is this normal to react so fast?
Thank you! You can contact me and my team through my website chillichump.com/contact That seems a bit soon for fermentation to begin, especially if they were fresh
Do you think the roots of the plants will eventually clog up the drainage port? Looks great, im definitely going to copy your design once its done a full grow.
I like the build, but, Is it not easyer to putt the pump in the resrvoir and pump the nutrient from there UP to the growpot and as it is at the highest point the pump stops and the nutrient runs back over the same pipe?
The nutrients already run back through the pipes. If I understand what you are saying...it would be a similar system I built previously, which wasn't as extendable as this...and also caused major issues with roots.
@@ChilliChump Thank you for the reply, please explain " problems with the roots ". To bad I can not enter a drawing here but when in the growmediacontainer is an overflowpipe running the water what is to much I see no problems for the roots.
Traditional ebb and flood uses gravity....the reservoir is under the grow media. The pump pumps water up into the grow media, flooding it. Then when the pump turns off the water flows back down into the reservoir. What happens is the roots chase the water back down the pipe and can end up clogging the system. But it sound like you are talking about overflow...so are you suggesting keeping the water topped up in the grow media? Because if so, that wouldn't be optimal for this type of system.
@@ChilliChump No, run it for EG like 15 minutes and let it flow back over the unpowered pump. Only reason for the overflow to be there is if the 15 minutes pumping is to much, but the used timer is only in steps of 15 minutes, so the water amount more as where the high level must come, goes back to the reservoir over the overflow drain. The roots looking for water are no problem, the in and out pipe is with cuttings made with a saw to cut iron. And aroud that one another, larger in diameter, pipe also with saw cutted passages. It is more as a bell sifon butt without the bell sifon. Made more than one never one that works.
That's the same system I built here ruclips.net/video/rVAhSHe0Z1w/видео.html And here in a smaller system ruclips.net/video/mB6CJHqPdqQ/видео.html And another where I designed a little 3d printed solution for it ruclips.net/video/9A8mj7paNIc/видео.html
Best of luck in your challenge, I know with minimal interaction hydroponic plants can grow insane so I'm sure it'll be a Beast among beasts. Curious if you have any failsafes like if you were away for a long weekend during the summer and the pump failed, or a hi/lo switch failed and pumped the main tank empty?
Thank you mate. With regards to your question, I check on my system pretty frequently. And if I was going away on vacation I would get someone to come check on things. Worst case scenario, if pumps failed...I can get my helper to manually flood once a day. It would keep the plant alive until I got back to sort things out.
It really depends on how you grow them...the nutrients you use. If the goal is to grow them as quickly and big as possible like a lot of commercial places, then the results will be pretty flavourless.
You should try building a DIY high pressure aeroponics using NASA misters from "AgriHouse", each mist nozzles are $5, true high pressure aeroponics grows plants faster and uses super little water and nutrients. Should be less than $300 to build. This type of aeroponics is nothing compared to what you see people are doing on youtube with common aeroponics using low pressure. Not sure if you know about this tech, but it also helps to keep bacteria at bay. The mists droplet size are 50 microns, perfect for roots to absorb directly.
With that pipe diameter to actually get a sifon effect is very hard u would need and insane flow rate, keep in mind that the pipe have to actually be completly full of water for that to happen, if the water doesnt fill completly the upper part of the pipe loop u will never get a sifon effect
Unfortunately MW2GanjaGangster, the pipe diameter does not affect back siphonage in the way you described. Of course generic garden hoses can siphon but so can 2" or larger pipes such as water mains. In plumbing, there's "backflow prevention devices" that are required to prevent things like siphonage. To prevent this with any size pipe, the most effective and often most simple solution is: create an air gap. (Which is what they did in the video).
@@ChilliChump I find the 2nd year is the bumper harvest for large containers, as the root system is already well established and chomping at the bit :) The longest i`ve kept a pepper in a flood and drain container is 5 years, the trunk was like an old twisted oak.
@@ChilliChump Single buckets filled with hydroton can be manually flooded and drained. All it takes is a push fit tank connector and an elbow plus a length of tube as tall as the bucket, swivel the tube up to flood, swivel down to drain.
When are you going to finally start doing sauces and taste tests? And that kind of stuff again on this channel? The whole reason I joined the channel years ago! Sarai, I buy your perry perry salt the reason why!
Last sauce video was just over a month ago. While I appreciate your custom David...seriously, have some patience. I'm doing a ridiculous amount of work here to keep things running and keep building my business. I have an abundance of sauces to review...my own sauces to finish off and bottle, and a lot more besides. But it is the beginning of my season and other things take priority. If you want to pay for an editor, I will gladly release the 12 sauce reviews, and 2 sauce videos I have waiting to get edited. Try remember that I am one guy doing this all.
I have a ton of those pumps. I also got a 3500gph one. but they are so handy Great video ,mate
This is such a cool system Shaun. When I have green house. I would like do something similar for some of my staple chilies so I can use my soil space for other plants. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I am excited to see how big these plants get.
Thank you mate. I hope it inspires people with some ideas! That's why I make these videos 🔥❤️
Cannot wait to see the results of this! Really cool system and well explained for people like me who have no idea how ebb and flood works.
Looks to me as though your season of fun is well underway Shaun! You have a couple fine growers to follow along with too in Peter and Khang... both very seasoned growers. Here the weather may be warm enough next week to set in the season's worth of onions. Plants still a few weeks out. Stay Spicy! -Bob...
Thanks Bob. Hopefully you have some warm weather on it way! I'm looking forward to some sunshine...I can just imagine how badly you are looking forward to it!
@@ChilliChump Snow has been melted off for about a couple weeks now, that it was snowing again last Saturday evening. Still frost over the weekend coming at night. But still is enjoyable being out in the garden space, barren as it still is lol.
That is some serious super-sizing! Nice build, using bilge pumps is a great choice, and how you've circumvented the siphon effect is simple yet clever. I will be awaiting any updates on these plants with much curiosity.
Thank you mate. Already seeing the magic happen. Can see new growth nearly every day now. I'm still tweaking things but fundamentally it's doing well!
@@ChilliChump Very good! I love the 'mad scientist' approach, could give you the egde to bag this contest.
That Dorset is gonna beast out in that thing. Looking great dude. Guess I can plant out now that you guys are well underway! Cheers to a really interesting growdown!
Let's hope so! Will be interesting to see how it performs! How's yours coming along?
@@ChilliChump They are doing well. I posted them in discord a week or so ago. Have 6 to chose from. Time to get one planted!
@ me the next time you post mate! Sorry I missed it before, been a manic few weeks.
That's really cool! If I ever get a greenhouse I'm going to dig a pit for the reservoir but that's nice!
Another fun and fantastic video Shaun! I loved all the content. One thing I learned for sure from this video is, you are way smarter then me. I will just bow politely :). Thank you for all the work you put into this and for sharing with all your community. Super cool! Stay Spicy! V/R Shane
My season has slowed down. When the inland desert gets really hot initially, the marine comes in thick and stays cloudy almost all day. May grey and June gloom
My season is off to a bad start Here in Houston, TX. I planted 2 of each in a small garden, jalapeño, cayenne, and haberano.
They took root, and then it started raining almost every day, and the temp has dropped to the Low 50's at night.
Our last day of frost is supposed to be late May, early April. The plants are now turning yellow fin all the rain.
You mentioned all my subbed pepper channels, except Rob at "7 pot club", thanks for another video.
Also the hardest part in my area is the nutrient solution gets to warm, unless i can keep it in the ground.
Rob is great, I've had him on my livestream before. Big fan of his.
Rob is too cool!
Jeb Gardner was huge inspiration to start Kratky method
A simple hack to stop syphoning is to drill a 10mm hole in the pipe at the top of the bend, I used the same bilge pumps on a water ballast system and the 10mm hole works a treat.
That Naga will be a beast of a plant 👍
good tip 👍
better to wedge a small 90° plastic fitting in that 10mm hole will aim the water downwards.(its called an anti syphon)
and hard mount the return with tank connecter or same fitting you used at the bottom.
@@allanmk2r324 the 10mm hole stops the Syphon by letting air into the system thus being the anti Syphon
Love the system. But would love to see indepth build. Maybe on cc2? Thanks for another great build and video
Good idea. Happy to do it. The original video for this was about 25 minutes long. But experience has taught me that people won't watch that long. So cut it quite a bit.
That blue pot is doomed to fail. it is best before end of January 2023! it is expired! 🤪And what's above "master"? is the 220 litre an "overlord" bucket? 🤔Will be fun to see how these plants turn out!
😂
I have noticed in a couple videos you use your phone to scan a barcode on a container. I am guessing you have a database system of some kind. Do you have a video on it or do you have plans to make a video on it. I'm very interested in this
It's software I built called SeedsIO. Free to the public to use. Here's a playlist on it
SeedsIO
ruclips.net/p/PLuQ_ySnkV1entyEIGv2mDlOlRuR3Gmyr6
@@ChilliChump OMG, thank you. Had just recently found your videos so been working my way through them while the peppers grow. Figured if you didn't have a video or wanted to keep it private I would just program my own. Just wanted to make sure before spending the time then finding the program later
What do you do to pollinate the flowers? Do you simply aim a fan at it?
The fans are to control humidity. I have a few ways of pollinating, depending on the variety. A good shake of the plant does the job for the most part
Hi great vid as always. A question regards the timing of the flood and ebb, you have it set at 3 hourly intervals, Are you using that just for the monster set up or in general in you hydroponics? I copied your flood table from an earlier tutorial and it works great. Last year was a disaster. Got the nutrient mix wrong life got in the way and my tank ran dry! Gloom. So this year fresh seeds new start but just wondering about the every 3 hours Flood.
The chillichump Jalapenos in pots did great though.
Regards Keith
3 hours is a good general interval when using hydroton clay pebbles. If you were using a different medium you would need to adjust the timings. Good luck with your setup this year! Glad to hear my hydro table worked well for you. I am thinking of making a new one for my current setup 👍
Get some reflective material to cover your main reservoir. In the sun it'll become a mini hot tub.
I will do when things warm up, right now it's handy to keep the water from freezing
@@ChilliChump I tried dwc in my poly tunnel with a black tub and got terrible root rot. You live and learn eh! I did use some beneficial bacteria and it did get rid of most the root rot.
@@1000Mikey Makes me suspicious of Kratky in full sun. Did you try lowering water level or go straight to beneficials? 🤔
@@BlackJesus8463 I had a solar air pump to an air stone which probably just pumped hot air into the water. I ended up changing out the nutrients, covered the pot in foil tape which really did reduce temps then added beneficial bacteria. The plant came back but It didn't really grow that well. It was a good learning curve. It's always good to try different things. The main issue with full hydro outside is maintaining the res temps.
@@1000Mikey yeah ok. Thanks!
This has been a fun build. And so far has been performing great. Do you think it has a chance to beat Pepper Geek?
Don't forget to check out @pepperdactyl (Peter Stanley) and @KhangStarr !
⛲Bilge Pump geni.us/ecobpump
⏱️Timer Relay geni.us/timerrelay
🛟Float Switch geni.us/flswitch
I don't think Pepper Geek stands a chance TBH. 😂😂
great idea for a system mate. what is the flood time, drain time and do you flood / drain constantly or is there time between the two?
During daylight hours I flood and drain every 3 hours. Then once at night around 1am
Foot valves are easy and cheap for water control.
nice setup I personally don't like using a double pump system it just becomes overly complex imo so I went with a gravity draining system and use a self priming pump to supply the buckets and use a spillway as a return to set the water height and once the pump cycles off it drains the buckets back through the pump you just need to use a big enough pump to push that weight and has its in/out high enough to brake the suction without draining the casing and It can re prime no problem just make sure it has no internal check valves and its g2g
If you have a look at the system I built a few years back, it is a gravity drain system. It introduces a few issues that I am trying to avoid with this system. By the end of the season, the system required constant maintenance due to the root system.
Love your videos. I don't know how to DM so I'll ask here. Have you any experience with Caribe peppers? I put them in a jar yesterday. Today they are bubbling like theyre carbonated. is this normal to react so fast?
Thank you! You can contact me and my team through my website chillichump.com/contact
That seems a bit soon for fermentation to begin, especially if they were fresh
Do you think the roots of the plants will eventually clog up the drainage port?
Looks great, im definitely going to copy your design once its done a full grow.
Hopefully not. The inner pot can be rotated occasionally to help with it. And of course the large diameter piping I've used should help too.
I like the build, but, Is it not easyer to putt the pump in the resrvoir and pump the nutrient from there UP to the growpot and as it is at the highest point the pump stops and the nutrient runs back over the same pipe?
The nutrients already run back through the pipes. If I understand what you are saying...it would be a similar system I built previously, which wasn't as extendable as this...and also caused major issues with roots.
@@ChilliChump Thank you for the reply, please explain " problems with the roots ". To bad I can not enter a drawing here but when in the growmediacontainer is an overflowpipe running the water what is to much I see no problems for the roots.
Traditional ebb and flood uses gravity....the reservoir is under the grow media. The pump pumps water up into the grow media, flooding it. Then when the pump turns off the water flows back down into the reservoir. What happens is the roots chase the water back down the pipe and can end up clogging the system.
But it sound like you are talking about overflow...so are you suggesting keeping the water topped up in the grow media? Because if so, that wouldn't be optimal for this type of system.
@@ChilliChump No, run it for EG like 15 minutes and let it flow back over the unpowered pump. Only reason for the overflow to be there is if the 15 minutes pumping is to much, but the used timer is only in steps of 15 minutes, so the water amount more as where the high level must come, goes back to the reservoir over the overflow drain. The roots looking for water are no problem, the in and out pipe is with cuttings made with a saw to cut iron. And aroud that one another, larger in diameter, pipe also with saw cutted passages. It is more as a bell sifon butt without the bell sifon. Made more than one never one that works.
That's the same system I built here
ruclips.net/video/rVAhSHe0Z1w/видео.html
And here in a smaller system
ruclips.net/video/mB6CJHqPdqQ/видео.html
And another where I designed a little 3d printed solution for it
ruclips.net/video/9A8mj7paNIc/видео.html
Best of luck in your challenge, I know with minimal interaction hydroponic plants can grow insane so I'm sure it'll be a Beast among beasts. Curious if you have any failsafes like if you were away for a long weekend during the summer and the pump failed, or a hi/lo switch failed and pumped the main tank empty?
Thank you mate. With regards to your question, I check on my system pretty frequently. And if I was going away on vacation I would get someone to come check on things. Worst case scenario, if pumps failed...I can get my helper to manually flood once a day. It would keep the plant alive until I got back to sort things out.
I always thought that a 2 part nutrient mixed in a large volume (big tank) would settle out before it could be used up?
It's mixed up every time it cycles. So that would really be a concern. However I haven't noticed any selling out with this
I've heard that fruits from hydro grown plants lack flavour, especially in Tomato plants.
Is that the same for chillies?
It really depends on how you grow them...the nutrients you use. If the goal is to grow them as quickly and big as possible like a lot of commercial places, then the results will be pretty flavourless.
You should try building a DIY high pressure aeroponics using NASA misters from "AgriHouse", each mist nozzles are $5, true high pressure aeroponics grows plants faster and uses super little water and nutrients. Should be less than $300 to build. This type of aeroponics is nothing compared to what you see people are doing on youtube with common aeroponics using low pressure. Not sure if you know about this tech, but it also helps to keep bacteria at bay. The mists droplet size are 50 microns, perfect for roots to absorb directly.
With that pipe diameter to actually get a sifon effect is very hard u would need and insane flow rate, keep in mind that the pipe have to actually be completly full of water for that to happen, if the water doesnt fill completly the upper part of the pipe loop u will never get a sifon effect
It happened with this system...which is why I mentioned it
Unfortunately MW2GanjaGangster, the pipe diameter does not affect back siphonage in the way you described.
Of course generic garden hoses can siphon but so can 2" or larger pipes such as water mains. In plumbing, there's "backflow prevention devices" that are required to prevent things like siphonage.
To prevent this with any size pipe, the most effective and often most simple solution is: create an air gap.
(Which is what they did in the video).
Awesome!
🦁🌶️🌶️🌶️💪👍👏👏👏👏
Subbin!
Just remember when mixing hydroponic nutrients always B...efore A
30L is a reasonable size but i wouldnt say its big.
It's about the limit if you want a harvest within a single season from seed
@@ChilliChump
I find the 2nd year is the bumper harvest for large containers, as the root system is already well established and chomping at the bit :) The longest i`ve kept a pepper in a flood and drain container is 5 years, the trunk was like an old twisted oak.
Yeah for sure, agreed....but the competition is for a single year, from seed.
@@ChilliChump
lol, i would have got the seeds in one second after midnight on new years day :)
I have never tried hydriponics. Too much stuff required 😊
It's fun and the results can be impressive...but yeah, it's a lot of work getting it set up!
@@ChilliChump
A single flood and drain bucket is very cheap and simple, you dont even need a pump :)
How you doing ebb and flood without a pump?
@@ChilliChump
Single buckets filled with hydroton can be manually flooded and drained. All it takes is a push fit tank connector and an elbow plus a length of tube as tall as the bucket, swivel the tube up to flood, swivel down to drain.
Ah manual flooding. Kind of defeats the point of a regular cycle. May as well just grow in soil at that point
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When are you going to finally start doing sauces and taste tests? And that kind of stuff again on this channel? The whole reason I joined the channel years ago! Sarai, I buy your perry perry salt the reason why!
Last sauce video was just over a month ago. While I appreciate your custom David...seriously, have some patience. I'm doing a ridiculous amount of work here to keep things running and keep building my business. I have an abundance of sauces to review...my own sauces to finish off and bottle, and a lot more besides. But it is the beginning of my season and other things take priority. If you want to pay for an editor, I will gladly release the 12 sauce reviews, and 2 sauce videos I have waiting to get edited. Try remember that I am one guy doing this all.