well, there is no geneva convention long ago in a galaxy far far away, so judging war crimes from our laws is... plus, literally every member of the disaster lineage has done war crimes, it's not even a stand out.
@@mcanta2898 true but there are also many laws that are similar to our own, so it wouldn't be too big a reach to assume theres some sort of laws dictating how you can act during warfare. whether its followed or not, well, (looks at the long list of modern day war crimes still perpetrated by various nations)
Don't forget about the Yavin code. Tbh I'm not sure exactly what it decided as it was only referenced in the unfinished crystal crisis arc, but apparently it is 1000 years old and the only rule that was mentioned I think offering war prisoners about to be executed a blindfold. Beyond that I have no idea what war crimes it prohibits.
@@ashleyjohnson9651 i mean its war at the end of the day shit aint pretty i understand it yet dont agree with it that much chaos and bloodshed eventually your gonna snap and stop caring about right and start just trying toi get home by any means .....you wont forget what you did though in summary ....... fuck war
I never noticed this before: Ki-Adi-Mundi: “There is no such thing as luck” Ki-Adi-Mundi a few minutes later: “With any luck we will meet up with Skywalker on his way to Kenobi’s position”
It's interesting you guys bring up the change in visuals because starting in season 2 Joel Aron who worked for ILM started taking a bigger role in the animation. He said during this arc he really wanted beef up the explosions in particular. Dave Filoni designed the fire effects though for the flamethrowers.
Single favorite episode. And I like the small detail that the only force to make it to the landing is the 212th Attack Battalion of the 7th Sky Corp. It is quite literally the type of combat they are specialized in.
@@TheLiamster one of my few criticism of filoni clonewars is the lack of trooper variations, paratroopers and galactic marines should've made an appearance imo. they wasted time on some pretty boring arcs when they could've been showing more of the war
@@Darkerthanblack247 i mean under the galactic marines mostly ran by mister war criminal himself Kai Adi Mundi so i probably wouldnt ad them fully just bits of em
Dave Filoni said in a interview that this episode was at first a total disaster. And George Lucas, Dave Filoni, Jason and Tucker sat in Avid for two days re-cutting the episode with live action footage. George had Battle of the Bulge, the Four Feathers, Battle over Britain and they took a bunch of stock footage and footage of movies they had and literally cut that episode together out of live action footage and that's why the pace of this episode feels so fast and up until this point they never did anything like this in animation.
To address something mentioned about rocks not having the force. Yoda specifically says the force flows through everything even mentioning rocks as apart of that principle
George Lucas also said that they weren't making this show for TV they were making it for the big screen. He said to Dave Filoni that he needed to think this show as a feature. Every thing about it like the style, the attention to detail, the lighting. So every thing they did on this show was done at a feature level, even though it was going television.
I love how you can say space d day and space nam and we all know what you are talking about... wait, how would you describe the siege? space d day 2.0?
In all fairness, the Ryloth and Geonosis arcs are more so the show displaying the slightest promise of being better, and then Savage and the Father come bursting through with a level of quality Star Wars had arguably never seen, and then Krell comes in shortly after and is arguably even better. Geonosis is pretty good, but the actual plot of the show begins in season 3 and it’s very good seemingly out of absolutely nowhere. Rewatching this show is a very bizarre experience, because you know how good it is at the end, but then you go back to the start and it feels like it’s an indie project on its dying breath.
Yes you mentioned how the camera moved like in a war movie which is exactly what Lucas told Dave Filoni and his crew....Dave made this episode first and when Lucas saw it he said "re-do it, go watch war movies for inspiration and make this like you would make it for a big screen and not for television" ...which is why this pretty much looks like a scene from some war movie, its so well done and also in this part of Clone Wars more talented people started working on the show so the effects look even better Also kinda dark fun fact here, when clones pulled out flamethrowers...they used it on Geonosians like they are just bugs and not living beings XD its pretty much equal to if you used flamethrower on human soldier...pretty dark scene if you think about it...
Something really interesting is that Palpatine most of the times put Anakin in battles that he would win most of the times so his popularity increased which did and Anakin became one of the war heroes in the Republic's eyes
This is easily my favorite episode in season 2. Probably the first time in the series where it legitimately felt like a warzone with all hell breaking loose.
One of the things I love about clone wars is that it’s not just a battle there’s a story to it we follow our heroes through the fight and generally worry for them (Rex and Cody the most 😭) similar to game of thrones can’t wait for you guys to see more of the battles
@@bruh-fw7op That's how they deflect blaster bolts and stuff, no? The force warns them of impending danger, and they move on almost on instinct to deflect the attacks.
@@bruh-fw7op It's less about the rocks in general I think, and more about what they need from the force to survive. In this particular instance, they (ani and snips) needed to know about the rocks to survive, so, they sense it. Just the way I think of it of course. Basically not knowing where the rocks are DOES cause impending danger :P
@@Commander_Shepard. I'm fairly sure setting a sentient being on fire would be considered a war crime even in the SW galaxy. But my point is more to the fact our Normies were cheering on the flamethrowers, and it IS a war crime to us.
@@codycraig8805 I'm not sure that Geonosians are considered to be sentient by the wider galactic community, since they're very isolationist and for the most part are confined to and around their hives. Not a lot of interaction with other species unless they are hired to build something. The Clones refer to them as "bugs", which reminds me of "clankers", the name they give to droids. The Empire then of course goes on to genocide the entire species, and no one seems to notice or care, further suggesting that Geonosians may not be viewed as little more than animals, whether that be due to the little interaction they have with the galactic community or something else. Similar scenario with the Wookies. Species that don't look human are not considered sentient by a lot of people within Star Wars, even by other non-humans, like Trandoshans.
@@DovahFett your entire argument is irrelevant because you base sentience from a singular perspective. They are obviously sentient, you dont become a space faring civilization without sentience. "Bugs" is obviously just a derogatory term (because they are literally 'bugs') and can't be used to disprove sentience. And nobody questioned the Empire eradicating the Genosians because A) The newly formed Empire just got out of a war that started with the Genosians and nobody liked them which led to a positive public opinion towards their eradication and B) anybody who spoke out agaisnt the Empire was silenced anyways. And I dont know if you have noticed, but there are a TON of species in SW that are recognized as sentient that dont look human. In fact, I'd say Wookies look more human than most species in the galaxy. Honestly, your entire argument sounds exactly like Imperial racism which led to a majority of the Empire being led by "humans"
@@codycraig8805 Read again. I never said that they weren't sentient. They obviously are. Poggle the Lesser is a good example of that. I said that it's possible that they aren't perceived as sentient by the wider galactic community due to how different they are from most other space-faring species, not only in appearance, but in culture. There are not a lot of giant insectoids running around. The only other species I can think of are the Killiks, and unlike the Geonosians they really are a hive mind. Furthermore, they don't seem to venture far from their hives, which appear to be limited to Geonosis, a planet not known for its tourist industry even before the Clone Wars. This is supported by the fact that the Empire only has to wipe out the population of a single planet to almost exterminate the species. Lack of exposure + alien appearance = easy dehumanization. It's not a good look to start your argument by showing that you didn't understand the core of my own.
10:23 _"This is another fine mess you've gotten me into"_ is essentially what *Oliver Hardy* says to *Stan Laurel* in the 1930's _Laurel & Hardy_ films. I suppose you could say it's their version of _"I've got a bad feeling about this."_ 😏 *Suraj,* at 18:53 you noted how it was shot similar to something like *Black Hawk Down.* One thing you'll find consistently throughout *The Clone Wars¹* is that the show will do a straight-up (delightfully obvious) homage to a particular film or film style.² *EDIT:* They throw *Rex* off the wall and he goes __ *Anakin* to *Ahsoka:* _"I thought you had him."_ ··•✺•·· ¹ ─ I think you even pointed this out when it occurred (just as *Chris* did at 21:07). ² ─ To say nothing of their outstanding tacos! 🌮
The Geonosian arc is one of my favorites. The four episodes are different from each other but each has aspects of Clone Wars I love (a part of it is how different each episode can be).
Weird trivia for this episode: -At the start of the episode Anakin and Ahsoka claimed to came from a mission near Dorin(the home-world of the Kel-dor Plo Koon species) -Ki-ad-mundi was originally supposed to appear in holocron heist but his model was’t ready so he was written out. So this marks his first debut in the series -Obi-Wan’s gunship(that gets shot down) has a picture of a nexu(one of the beast show in the Geonosis arena in episode II) with the aurebesh(star wars equivalent of our alphabet) reading “Bad kitty” which was the nickname the animation crew gave it during production.
So, about them being able to sense the rocks, I will quote Yoda in Empire Strikes Back; "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us, binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. *You must feel the Force flow around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, yes, even between the land and the ship."*
There's a really neat film sound featurette called "THX Soundtrack!" off an old laserdisc demo called THX WOW (which also includes a nifty, extended Star Wars trilogy/Indiana Jones trilogy/Willow montage that was used to show off sound systems back in the day). Anyways, "Soundtrack!" goes into a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade's audio, layer by layer (from on-set audio, to dialogue or effects layers to music). It also shows off a couple examples from Star Wars and Empire of the on-set audio (such as David Prowse delivering Vader's lines, etc). A neat thing to check out for those curious about any of those aspects of sound.
First battle of Geonosis, the Republic had half the jedi council and most of the clone army available vs most of the Separatist battle droids...this time it's only 4 generals and their armies...It's pretty impressive all they did with that amount of firepower ! Also the more see the battle of the Clone Wars and the more i realize how much the air superiority seems to always be on the Republic side ! I guess the Republic Navy and the amount of Venator cruiser are their ultimate advantage, air vs ground for the Separatist ! The good cruiser and battlecruiser seem to come only at the end of the war for the Separatist...i wonder if it's a question of contracts or shipyard ? They are supposed to have Fondor aka top 5 one of the best. Will have to check Eckhartsladder !!
The Republic has ALL of the big heavy Industry of the Galaxy. Fondor, Kuat, Rothana etc. So the CIS fought an uphill battle from the start. Most of the seppis troops are upgraded private armys and planetary defence forces. Thats why most of the clonewars were the "outer rim sieges". The Seperatist literally could do nothing else than bunker up and hope the Repulics war support will fade XD
If only you guys knew. Ki-Adi-Mundi is basically the example what the Jedi shouldn’t be, and of how far the Jedi fell even before the clone wars. He had little to no value for his troops, and he didn’t see them as people but as tools. He held very strictly to the Jedi code. His species is gravely endangered so he had permission from the Jedi council to take wives and bear children, but he basically abandoned them all. He had dozens of concubines and many more children and he never even met one of them. You’ll see more of his personality in the later seasons of clone wars.
There's a reason he led the galactic marines alongside Bacarra. You had to be that way to lead a battalion given some of the toughest, most deadly conflicts.
Damn the way they treat the Genonosians in this show is fucking brutal. I kinda hate how they burn them alive, kill thousands, and then make it into a game about how many you’ve killed. Ik the kill count includes droids but still, pretty dark when you think about it.
Fun fact poggle the lesser was originally a very low ranking member in the caste system of his species. After showing great leadership skills and defeating the previous arkduke he took the title for himself. The cane he uses is actually the leg of his predecessor. Geonosians are very interesting
One of the best episodes of the series. And the series has A lot of good ones. Also one big continuity error here. Ki Adi Mundi says in the beginning "there is no such thing as luck" But later on the surface he says "with any luck we meet Skywalker on his way to Kenobi" Dude changed his mind pretty fast :D. Also the 2 clones (Waxxer and Boil) that rescued Obi wan were the ones on Ryloth with the little Twilek girl.
Season 2 is very underrated imo. The whole season is an homage to different movie genres. War films, horror, monster flicks, it really is just George Lucas and the team showing their love for cinema. And for that, I appreciate it.
I love that anakin recognizes how young ahsoka is so to reduce the potential trauma from her being in a war he turns it into a game so that she can focus on it that way
The Geonosians are highly civilized actually, they are just ferocious warriors defending their planet from a foreign invasion - again! Don't forget these guys are weapon manufacturers and were the initial engineers of the Death Star itself before Krennic and his team took over. They have what we would define as "barbaric traditions" such as the execution arena stuff, but so do the Wookies and yet few of us ever look down on them.
Fun fact Ki adi Mundi was allowed by the other Jedi to follow the Cerean custom of polygamous marriage due to the low Cerean birthrate-he had four honor wives and seven daughters . The entire family was killed during the Battle of Cerea
Just think this operation requires 4 Jedi Generals and their apprentices. However, the landings have no air support on account of being needed elsewhere. That either means that a more important operation is being conducted that we do not see or Admiral Yularen HATES Anakin. I am inclined to believe the later.
Following the Clone Wars, the Geonosians were forced by the Galactic Empire to assist in the construction of the Death Star. Though a new archduke was appointed to lead the Stalgasin hive, the Geonosians became a servant species to the Empire.
15:02 Even though they look cool and they did appear in the Sequel Trilogy and the Mandalorian, you actually will never see modern militaries using flamethrowers. Much like how the Geneva Convention banned the use of chemical gas warfare after the first World War. Flamethrowers are also banned too for the risk of how much damage can be caused if things go absolutely wrong.
Congrats 🎉🥳 you now officially reached the point where Clone Wars enters some juicy territory and and the really good arcs start to pop up left and right
I think there is only 1 lightsaber throw in the entire series and you're not even close to that episode yet but don't worry, it's so epic it will be well worth the wait ;)
This episode is so great in general, but specifically for anyone that's a fan of war movie epics. It's full of homages to stuff like Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, etc.
So happy to see you guys enjoying the show so far wait to see the umbara arc every single clone shine so brightly in these episodes along with general krell
Question: Is there a reason why most of skywalkers clone battalion still have their stock-white armor while kenobi's and Mundi's batallions have more stylized designs? Was it just a budgetary limitation or is there an in-universe reason?
could be a number of reasons. not all of the 212th are in camo, Cody is in his normal armor. It could very well be that clones that are specialized for desert warfare have desert camo, and since Anakin's opinions on sand are known he isn't expected to fight there and therefor don't have clones with desert camo. could be they did not have time to resupply on desert armor. who knows?
Normies: MUNDI IS AWESOME!!!! awwwwww he so sweet!!!! Me who knows about Mundi and his real personality: Oh you poor poor misguided souls, if only you knew......................
I like that y’all said it felt like a war documentary cause that was actually what it was based on. This episode is said to be modelled off of classic war movies, I can’t wait till y’all see umbara
This was a D-Day inspired episode. Also, Palpatine is letting the war drag on so that he can increase the executive emergency powers of the Chancellor's office and for the point when Anakin is ready to be turned, ie when Dooku is dead and Anakin is at his most vulnerable.
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Obi-Wan: *disgusted at using blasters*
Kai Adi Mundi: “Bring forth the war crimes!”
well, there is no geneva convention long ago in a galaxy far far away, so judging war crimes from our laws is... plus, literally every member of the disaster lineage has done war crimes, it's not even a stand out.
@@mcanta2898 true but there are also many laws that are similar to our own, so it wouldn't be too big a reach to assume theres some sort of laws dictating how you can act during warfare.
whether its followed or not, well, (looks at the long list of modern day war crimes still perpetrated by various nations)
Don't forget about the Yavin code. Tbh I'm not sure exactly what it decided as it was only referenced in the unfinished crystal crisis arc, but apparently it is 1000 years old and the only rule that was mentioned I think offering war prisoners about to be executed a blindfold. Beyond that I have no idea what war crimes it prohibits.
It is now canon for me that he has said that at least once
@@ashleyjohnson9651 i mean its war at the end of the day shit aint pretty i understand it yet dont agree with it that much chaos and bloodshed eventually your gonna snap and stop caring about right and start just trying toi get home by any means .....you wont forget what you did though in summary ....... fuck war
I never noticed this before:
Ki-Adi-Mundi: “There is no such thing as luck”
Ki-Adi-Mundi a few minutes later: “With any luck we will meet up with Skywalker on his way to Kenobi’s position”
It took like 30 minutes of combat experience for him to start believing in luck lol
He is the same guy that said Dooku couldn’t be a Sith
It's interesting you guys bring up the change in visuals because starting in season 2 Joel Aron who worked for ILM started taking a bigger role in the animation. He said during this arc he really wanted beef up the explosions in particular. Dave Filoni designed the fire effects though for the flamethrowers.
The animation of how everyone get dirty at the end of the episode.
if they love this, they're not ready for Umbara.
No one is ever ready for Umbara before they see Umbara
When the "Umbarans" show off their clone trooper cosplays.
As dark as it get.
@@xeonbeast1959 when trees speak umbaram
When you tell a joke to your Clone Brother and the mist laughs
If you look closely Waxer and boil have a small illustration on their helmets of the small twilek girl
Single favorite episode. And I like the small detail that the only force to make it to the landing is the 212th Attack Battalion of the 7th Sky Corp. It is quite literally the type of combat they are specialized in.
I agree although I wish we saw the clone paratroopers, they were briefly seen in Revenge Of The Sith after Order 66 on Utapau.
@@TheLiamster one of my few criticism of filoni clonewars is the lack of trooper variations, paratroopers and galactic marines should've made an appearance imo. they wasted time on some pretty boring arcs when they could've been showing more of the war
@@Darkerthanblack247 I can think of only 2 boring arcs, boring one offs maybe but not arcs.
@@Darkerthanblack247 i mean under the galactic marines mostly ran by mister war criminal himself Kai Adi Mundi so i probably wouldnt ad them fully just bits of em
Dave Filoni said in a interview that this episode was at first a total disaster. And George Lucas, Dave Filoni, Jason and Tucker sat in Avid for two days re-cutting the episode with live action footage. George had Battle of the Bulge, the Four Feathers, Battle over Britain and they took a bunch of stock footage and footage of movies they had and literally cut that episode together out of live action footage and that's why the pace of this episode feels so fast and up until this point they never did anything like this in animation.
I bet the clones paid a lot of credits to be onboard a Jedi’s gunship.
Well it didn’t turn out too well for most of the clones on Obi-Wan’s gunship lol
@@personmanman3071 ow
To address something mentioned about rocks not having the force. Yoda specifically says the force flows through everything even mentioning rocks as apart of that principle
thats just classic marketa tho
Would they be apart of living force or cosmic force
@@DarkLord_Mars I'd imagine living as its still apart of the physical world
@@Koreanspree yeah but she's always boasting about having read a Star Wars book an all
smh
@@davidnobre5660 she read a High Republic book. Of course shes not that knowledgeable.
George Lucas also said that they weren't making this show for TV they were making it for the big screen. He said to Dave Filoni that he needed to think this show as a feature. Every thing about it like the style, the attention to detail, the lighting. So every thing they did on this show was done at a feature level, even though it was going television.
16:44- Anakin always leads his troops from the front.
“They look like zombies!” *everyone looks over at “Legacy of Terror”*
And if they thought Space D-Day was crazy, wait till they see Space ‘Nam
I love how you can say space d day and space nam and we all know what you are talking about... wait, how would you describe the siege? space d day 2.0?
I feel like Umbara is more akin to the battle of the bulge personally
@@LadiesmanB007 The last episode of the arc was directed by Walter Murch, the editor of Apocalypse Now, so the influence is evident.
Umbara is Space 'Nam 2: The Krell Awakens
Fans: the show gets really good around season 3
Geonosis arc: am I a joke to you?
Well this is season 2?
@@mathies3598 Ah damn it, 3! I meant to put 3!
In all fairness, the Ryloth and Geonosis arcs are more so the show displaying the slightest promise of being better, and then Savage and the Father come bursting through with a level of quality Star Wars had arguably never seen, and then Krell comes in shortly after and is arguably even better. Geonosis is pretty good, but the actual plot of the show begins in season 3 and it’s very good seemingly out of absolutely nowhere.
Rewatching this show is a very bizarre experience, because you know how good it is at the end, but then you go back to the start and it feels like it’s an indie project on its dying breath.
Yes you mentioned how the camera moved like in a war movie which is exactly what Lucas told Dave Filoni and his crew....Dave made this episode first and when Lucas saw it he said "re-do it, go watch war movies for inspiration and make this like you would make it for a big screen and not for television" ...which is why this pretty much looks like a scene from some war movie, its so well done and also in this part of Clone Wars more talented people started working on the show so the effects look even better
Also kinda dark fun fact here, when clones pulled out flamethrowers...they used it on Geonosians like they are just bugs and not living beings XD its pretty much equal to if you used flamethrower on human soldier...pretty dark scene if you think about it...
Something really interesting is that Palpatine most of the times put Anakin in battles that he would win most of the times so his popularity increased which did and Anakin became one of the war heroes in the Republic's eyes
Obi-Wan: "So uncivilized."
Ki-Adi-Mundi: "Burn them all! Burn them all!"
Nothing more frustrating than having to capture a planet you already captured.
Y’all think this is badass just wait for Umbara and the Siege 😁😁
*proceeds to imagine their reactions to……THAT……scene*
@@Mrsalt7500 Which scene exactly? I can only assume you mean S7xE11 with Rex and Ahsoka but there's so many contenders here
@@grippingrope9937 I mean “They’re not Umbarans, they’re _____!”
umbara is overrated
They’re not ready for that 😭
Definitely the most impressive feat the show reached up to this point
This isn't a one off thing. The show's quality improves constantly all the way until the last season, where it looks like a movie.
"Which one's Gimli?"
Rex: "DON'T TOSS ME!"
This is easily my favorite episode in season 2. Probably the first time in the series where it legitimately felt like a warzone with all hell breaking loose.
One of the things I love about clone wars is that it’s not just a battle there’s a story to it we follow our heroes through the fight and generally worry for them (Rex and Cody the most 😭) similar to game of thrones can’t wait for you guys to see more of the battles
You would worry more about Rex and less about Cody since Cody first appeared in Revenge of the Sith.
@@captaincoolbreeze9429 True but clone wars made me love him
*Making "Landing at Point Rain"
Writers: So how D-Day do want the episo-
George & Dave: *Yes*
Marketa the force is literally everywhere so yes it would tell them where the rocks are.
Eh it’s still pretty hard to sense an object that insignificant.
@@bruh-fw7op That's how they deflect blaster bolts and stuff, no? The force warns them of impending danger, and they move on almost on instinct to deflect the attacks.
@@Birthday888 And the rocks aren’t impending danger, so it’s a bit strange. Maybe they just saw it from a higher elevation.
@@bruh-fw7op It's less about the rocks in general I think, and more about what they need from the force to survive. In this particular instance, they (ani and snips) needed to know about the rocks to survive, so, they sense it. Just the way I think of it of course. Basically not knowing where the rocks are DOES cause impending danger :P
@@bruh-fw7op Its not spider-sense. It surrounds all things equally
It's ok, Mundi just out here committing war crimes setting the locals on fire
War crimes according to whom? lol
@@Commander_Shepard. I'm fairly sure setting a sentient being on fire would be considered a war crime even in the SW galaxy. But my point is more to the fact our Normies were cheering on the flamethrowers, and it IS a war crime to us.
@@codycraig8805 I'm not sure that Geonosians are considered to be sentient by the wider galactic community, since they're very isolationist and for the most part are confined to and around their hives. Not a lot of interaction with other species unless they are hired to build something. The Clones refer to them as "bugs", which reminds me of "clankers", the name they give to droids. The Empire then of course goes on to genocide the entire species, and no one seems to notice or care, further suggesting that Geonosians may not be viewed as little more than animals, whether that be due to the little interaction they have with the galactic community or something else. Similar scenario with the Wookies. Species that don't look human are not considered sentient by a lot of people within Star Wars, even by other non-humans, like Trandoshans.
@@DovahFett your entire argument is irrelevant because you base sentience from a singular perspective. They are obviously sentient, you dont become a space faring civilization without sentience. "Bugs" is obviously just a derogatory term (because they are literally 'bugs') and can't be used to disprove sentience. And nobody questioned the Empire eradicating the Genosians because A) The newly formed Empire just got out of a war that started with the Genosians and nobody liked them which led to a positive public opinion towards their eradication and B) anybody who spoke out agaisnt the Empire was silenced anyways. And I dont know if you have noticed, but there are a TON of species in SW that are recognized as sentient that dont look human. In fact, I'd say Wookies look more human than most species in the galaxy. Honestly, your entire argument sounds exactly like Imperial racism which led to a majority of the Empire being led by "humans"
@@codycraig8805 Read again. I never said that they weren't sentient. They obviously are. Poggle the Lesser is a good example of that. I said that it's possible that they aren't perceived as sentient by the wider galactic community due to how different they are from most other space-faring species, not only in appearance, but in culture. There are not a lot of giant insectoids running around. The only other species I can think of are the Killiks, and unlike the Geonosians they really are a hive mind. Furthermore, they don't seem to venture far from their hives, which appear to be limited to Geonosis, a planet not known for its tourist industry even before the Clone Wars. This is supported by the fact that the Empire only has to wipe out the population of a single planet to almost exterminate the species. Lack of exposure + alien appearance = easy dehumanization.
It's not a good look to start your argument by showing that you didn't understand the core of my own.
10:23 _"This is another fine mess you've gotten me into"_ is essentially what *Oliver Hardy* says to *Stan Laurel* in the 1930's _Laurel & Hardy_ films. I suppose you could say it's their version of _"I've got a bad feeling about this."_ 😏
*Suraj,* at 18:53 you noted how it was shot similar to something like *Black Hawk Down.* One thing you'll find consistently throughout *The Clone Wars¹* is that the show will do a straight-up (delightfully obvious) homage to a particular film or film style.²
*EDIT:* They throw *Rex* off the wall and he goes __ *Anakin* to *Ahsoka:* _"I thought you had him."_
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¹ ─ I think you even pointed this out when it occurred (just as *Chris* did at 21:07).
² ─ To say nothing of their outstanding tacos! 🌮
Yes they can see a rock with the force. The force surrounds everything, even rocks, ships, and droids
The Geonosian arc is one of my favorites. The four episodes are different from each other but each has aspects of Clone Wars I love (a part of it is how different each episode can be).
Weird trivia for this episode:
-At the start of the episode Anakin and Ahsoka claimed to came from a mission near Dorin(the home-world of the Kel-dor Plo Koon species)
-Ki-ad-mundi was originally supposed to appear in holocron heist but his model was’t ready so he was written out. So this marks his first debut in the series
-Obi-Wan’s gunship(that gets shot down) has a picture of a nexu(one of the beast show in the Geonosis arena in episode II) with the aurebesh(star wars equivalent of our alphabet) reading “Bad kitty” which was the nickname the animation crew gave it during production.
So, about them being able to sense the rocks, I will quote Yoda in Empire Strikes Back; "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us, binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. *You must feel the Force flow around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, yes, even between the land and the ship."*
11:38 Ahsoka can actually sense her environment using her alien biology it’s likely she realised those rocks were there
Ah, good ol' Mundi. "The Jedi code says nothing about polygamy and burning people alive lolz". Such a great role model.
Easily one of the greatest battles in Clone Wars, and it only gets better
There's a really neat film sound featurette called "THX Soundtrack!" off an old laserdisc demo called THX WOW (which also includes a nifty, extended Star Wars trilogy/Indiana Jones trilogy/Willow montage that was used to show off sound systems back in the day).
Anyways, "Soundtrack!" goes into a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade's audio, layer by layer (from on-set audio, to dialogue or effects layers to music). It also shows off a couple examples from Star Wars and Empire of the on-set audio (such as David Prowse delivering Vader's lines, etc).
A neat thing to check out for those curious about any of those aspects of sound.
First battle of Geonosis, the Republic had half the jedi council and most of the clone army available vs most of the Separatist battle droids...this time it's only 4 generals and their armies...It's pretty impressive all they did with that amount of firepower ! Also the more see the battle of the Clone Wars and the more i realize how much the air superiority seems to always be on the Republic side ! I guess the Republic Navy and the amount of Venator cruiser are their ultimate advantage, air vs ground for the Separatist ! The good cruiser and battlecruiser seem to come only at the end of the war for the Separatist...i wonder if it's a question of contracts or shipyard ? They are supposed to have Fondor aka top 5 one of the best. Will have to check Eckhartsladder !!
The Republic has ALL of the big heavy Industry of the Galaxy. Fondor, Kuat, Rothana etc. So the CIS fought an uphill battle from the start. Most of the seppis troops are upgraded private armys and planetary defence forces. Thats why most of the clonewars were the "outer rim sieges". The Seperatist literally could do nothing else than bunker up and hope the Repulics war support will fade XD
@@schnocksej.6774 I believe Dooku was able to convince Sluis Van to join the Separatists so the Separatists weren't completely without shipyards.
The CIS navy was really good but the Republic has better air support/ cas
If you Look closely you can see that Waxer has painted Numa (that little girl) on the side of his helmet
The scene where Waxer and Boil were sent out to save Obi wan gave Saving Private Ryan D-day vibes
If only you guys knew. Ki-Adi-Mundi is basically the example what the Jedi shouldn’t be, and of how far the Jedi fell even before the clone wars. He had little to no value for his troops, and he didn’t see them as people but as tools. He held very strictly to the Jedi code. His species is gravely endangered so he had permission from the Jedi council to take wives and bear children, but he basically abandoned them all. He had dozens of concubines and many more children and he never even met one of them. You’ll see more of his personality in the later seasons of clone wars.
There's a reason he led the galactic marines alongside Bacarra. You had to be that way to lead a battalion given some of the toughest, most deadly conflicts.
Mundi's commander in this episode was the one who killed Mundi with his clones in Episode III, btw.
@Everything fiction What happened with jet?
Suraj hasn’t seen Saving Private Ryan. Movie night Normies!
I don’t think Rana has either
Damn the way they treat the Genonosians in this show is fucking brutal. I kinda hate how they burn them alive, kill thousands, and then make it into a game about how many you’ve killed. Ik the kill count includes droids but still, pretty dark when you think about it.
Ki adi Mundi, one of the few jedi officially allowed to get his fuck on due to being an endangered race.
"This is the best episode yet!"
Get ready to say that about 30 more times...
that fortress looks like one of those training platform the bad batch use to train in kamino
Ki-adi-mundi was a psychopath lmao
Using a flamethrower is a War crime! Bom bad jedi!
This is Star Wars D-Day and one of my favourit episodes of all time
Fun fact poggle the lesser was originally a very low ranking member in the caste system of his species. After showing great leadership skills and defeating the previous arkduke he took the title for himself. The cane he uses is actually the leg of his predecessor. Geonosians are very interesting
It was George Lucas's idea to say "Bring in the flamethrowers!"
This episode always gave be big D-Day vibes
This is the episode where Clone Wars starts getting epic... I am happy you reached here
Imagine the credit the clone gunship pilots get if they managed to successfully land
One of the best episodes of the series. And the series has A lot of good ones.
Also one big continuity error here. Ki Adi Mundi says in the beginning "there is no such thing as luck"
But later on the surface he says "with any luck we meet Skywalker on his way to Kenobi"
Dude changed his mind pretty fast :D.
Also the 2 clones (Waxxer and Boil) that rescued Obi wan were the ones on Ryloth with the little Twilek girl.
The episode where The Clone Wars levelled up and became one of the best parts of Star Wars.
Season 2 is very underrated imo. The whole season is an homage to different movie genres. War films, horror, monster flicks, it really is just George Lucas and the team showing their love for cinema. And for that, I appreciate it.
remember anakin and asoka were talking about droids mostly and ki adi was counting the geonsisains not droids
the clones got major drip
I'll say it and i'll say it again, the invasion of Geonosian is D-Day, and Felucia is Vietnam
Umbrara is Vietnam
I love that anakin recognizes how young ahsoka is so to reduce the potential trauma from her being in a war he turns it into a game so that she can focus on it that way
At 8:00 you guys missed a really good moment between Anakin and Ahsoka because of the cinematography lol
The Geonosians are highly civilized actually, they are just ferocious warriors defending their planet from a foreign invasion - again! Don't forget these guys are weapon manufacturers and were the initial engineers of the Death Star itself before Krennic and his team took over. They have what we would define as "barbaric traditions" such as the execution arena stuff, but so do the Wookies and yet few of us ever look down on them.
This was the Episode that really made me love this show. Which is actually kinda sad that it took one and a half seasons :D
Cody's back must really hurt for carrying this battle.
Fun fact Ki adi Mundi was allowed by the other Jedi to follow the Cerean custom of polygamous marriage due to the low Cerean birthrate-he had four honor wives and seven daughters . The entire family was killed during the Battle of Cerea
I always recommend this episode for people who still think this show was only for kids.
_"I've been looking forward to this."_
Just think this operation requires 4 Jedi Generals and their apprentices. However, the landings have no air support on account of being needed elsewhere. That either means that a more important operation is being conducted that we do not see or Admiral Yularen HATES Anakin. I am inclined to believe the later.
Episodes like this is why I say this show is PEAK star wars and no one can change my mind.
"It's like a zombie" Famous last words
Following the Clone Wars, the Geonosians were forced by the Galactic Empire to assist in the construction of the Death Star. Though a new archduke was appointed to lead the Stalgasin hive, the Geonosians became a servant species to the Empire.
An interesting point to note down is that mundi is a psychopath, due to him being unable to feel emotions.
15:02 Even though they look cool and they did appear in the Sequel Trilogy and the Mandalorian, you actually will never see modern militaries using flamethrowers.
Much like how the Geneva Convention banned the use of chemical gas warfare after the first World War. Flamethrowers are also banned too for the risk of how much damage can be caused if things go absolutely wrong.
Finally, we in the good episodes now!!
The budget and quality becomes so much better as the show progresses! Also please consider doing multiple episodes at a time 😭
Supremely satifying.
oh boi they're almost at the parasite episode
Congrats 🎉🥳 you now officially reached the point where Clone Wars enters some juicy territory and and the really good arcs start to pop up left and right
13:23
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Not Anakin trying to make war fun for Ahsoka 💀
I think there is only 1 lightsaber throw in the entire series and you're not even close to that episode yet
but don't worry, it's so epic it will be well worth the wait ;)
This episode is so great in general, but specifically for anyone that's a fan of war movie epics. It's full of homages to stuff like Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, etc.
Some would say Kai-Adi-Mundi is a major reason the Emperor won.
So happy to see you guys enjoying the show so far wait to see the umbara arc every single clone shine so brightly in these episodes along with general krell
Question: Is there a reason why most of skywalkers clone battalion still have their stock-white armor while kenobi's and Mundi's batallions have more stylized designs? Was it just a budgetary limitation or is there an in-universe reason?
Anakin is more focused on flair through action, not design.
could be a number of reasons. not all of the 212th are in camo, Cody is in his normal armor. It could very well be that clones that are specialized for desert warfare have desert camo, and since Anakin's opinions on sand are known he isn't expected to fight there and therefor don't have clones with desert camo. could be they did not have time to resupply on desert armor. who knows?
Normies: MUNDI IS AWESOME!!!! awwwwww he so sweet!!!!
Me who knows about Mundi and his real personality: Oh you poor poor misguided souls, if only you knew......................
clone wars really has some of the best star wars content
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE!!!!!
During season 2 and onward George told then to make it like they were making a feature film not a weekly tv show it only goes up from this point
I like that y’all said it felt like a war documentary cause that was actually what it was based on. This episode is said to be modelled off of classic war movies, I can’t wait till y’all see umbara
12 year old (ish) me: So cool flamethrowers
22 year old me: What in the War Crimes is goin on?!!
17:00 That still only counts as one!
Boil and Waxer make their return!! Yay!!
This was a D-Day inspired episode. Also, Palpatine is letting the war drag on so that he can increase the executive emergency powers of the Chancellor's office and for the point when Anakin is ready to be turned, ie when Dooku is dead and Anakin is at his most vulnerable.
Do you remember Waxer and Boil from the Twi'lek girl Numa episode?
This is my absolute favorite episode of season 2!!!
16:42 UMBARA.. UMBARA.. UMBARA!
The Landing at Point Rain was the most "war movie" episode of Clone Wars since Ryloth....and until the Umbaran Campaign.
Its a well shot arc.
Another fine mess was a Laurel n Hardy saying :)
I feel like someone should mention that at least to my memory there isn't a single proper lightsaber throw in this show
Savage oppress decapitateing the black sun council
@@fireball9601 touché although I've interpreted them wanting a lightsaber throw as one where the saber comes back otherwise I would've counted yoda
Actually there is one coming up. Season 2 episode 13. Anakin throws his lightsaber at a droid.
@@jackson857 damn I'm apparently just forgetting all the throws that happen in this show