Jeven, one question for you. Have you tried comparing RS vs HS when using the same resolution and framerate? I see you compared 4K60 on A2 and 5.3K60 on the H10. 4K/60 on the HERO10 will allow you to shoot in High HyperSmooth. I believe that would be much more comparable? REmember that 5.3K60 only has Standard HyperSmooth available. Maybe that makes it more apples to apples comp?
I just want to give you one suggestion for the audio-test at the beginning - after each of u talk for some time, swap the 2 cameras and let us hear each of ur voice from the other. That would further improve ur already good comparrison imo. Otherwise good stuff, cheers for the review!
One good thing about the Action 2's magnetic design is how easy it is to attach the cam from one accessory to the other! It's a step more efficient than using screws
@@chefbelgium no lol I've only been using the magnetic attachment cause my tpu mount is in the mail and i trust it if its flying but one small crash and the cam flys off the mount.
can't go wrong with either one of the cameras. both are very capable cameras. I just like the gopro because it's simpler and easier to use and has removable battery, lens cover and slots and ports in one single body. just like osmo action 1. ahem.
I’m finally getting the Action 2. Thanks to your reviews. DJI listened to the feedbacks and they now gave us a magnetic protective case for the Action 2.
I still use Hero 7 Black since it released. My thought was the freezing issue got sorted out with newer versions and definitely in Hero 10. But, WTF!!!! It's still there!!!! I agree with you. It's extremely annoying when it freezes and can ruin your work literally. Not sure why GoPro hasn't addressed that issue even with better processors now!!!
I noticed that DJI Action 2 looks superb in low light and stabilization too. The GoPro needed to be on the boosted mode to make it as stable as the DJI Action 2.
I like my Osmo Action 1. It never failed me and I did a lot of different video stuff with it, including macro shots with a replacement lens. It seems the Action 2 is much more specialized and a very different product. The Osmo Action 1 can still compete, it just reliably runs and runs and runs - love it!
I think what you’re missing is using it for water sports. 1. None of the modules are waterproof. It severely limits you on your storage and battery life. 2. The magnetic attachment system won’t be great for things like. Surfing, waterskiing, or jet skiing. 3. If use a waterproof case, then you have to deal with condensation in the case.
Seems like Gopro finally has worthy opponent. I've GP4 5 and 7, they all suffer from ocasional glitching; shutting off, freezing and not powering on. Most issues went away after swapping to aftermarket batteries though. Due to firm factor and accessories, the DJI will be my next cam for recording on my motorcycle.
I kind of agree, but also, despite being called Action "2", I don't believe it is designed to replace the 1st one. Instead, it is a new camera system, with the Action name. Its good for consumers though, as we have the choice to purchase either types.
@@MbKTheGLow yeah that’s kind of how I see it. Modular for different uses. I think for the general person that might want to take it to catch some clips of action type shots it will be a great camera. I still love the Osmo Action and hope they maybe revise it one day and keep the same body style.
Excellent comparison! At the end of the day, just pick one and go with it. Sometimes we beat ourselves to death trying to make a decision when in the end, it's not going to make much of a difference.
overheating : if you unfold the the fingers under the GoPro, it won't overheat that much. That's why it would overheat in the office, but not on the field : fingers unfolded and air flowing freely around the camera.
the frame at 6:56 tells you everything you need to know. DJI's product seems rushed and not mature enough to be considered an actual GOPRO competitor. They don't even include a standard threaded mount for the DJI really tells you everything you need to know about the thought of the product.
Can you elaborate a little? I'm not seeing it at that time code. The acton 2 lacks a little of the fine detail, but it overall is a more pleasing image to my eye. The go pro looks over sharpened and harder to work with in the larger frame. As for the threaded mount comment, I'm in a wait and see state, we shouldn't be too quick to judge the failure rate of the mag mount, but it's definitly a concern.
@@DavidBeechfieldBrownArt how is that different from the go pro option though? And you can still get an Action 2 mount adapter to go pro 1/4 20 giving you the same options, yes?
@@MrMoviePhoneEx No the GoPro looks much better! And my girlfriend sitting next to me agrees you can clearly see it in the video footage at high resolution.
To me the GoPro footage looks better, more sharpness, color saturation, and detail. Also, the Action 2 gets quite distorted on the edges of the frame. Yes, the FOVs are different, but the narrower FOV of the GoPro seems generally more usable.
Here comes the time in the year when I state " I own a here 7 black and will continue rocking it for one more year!" Still giving me really great results!!!
hahahahah "how did I end up in alaska?" I was surprised how well the action 2 stabilizes in low light. Great video and you are welcome to come back up to alaska to do more crazy things anytime...
I recently purchased the Hero10, upgrading from Hero7 and I am blown away from its quality image! I like the Action2 size and magnetic mount, but after seeing this review if I would have to buy a camera now I would still go with the Hero10. Great helpful review, thanks so much for sharing it
What is best? Thank you for good videos. There are so many different types of ND filters that fit the GoPro Hero 10. My question is which one is the best, it's not a question of the price but from which company is the best. There are from Sandmarc, variable ND filters. Tiffen has 3 ND filters plus 1 Polarid filter. Polar pro Shutter Collection, Neewer 4 pack filter ND and Telesin has Circular Polarizer Filter. Maybe there are some other filters that are better? Grateful for answers.
Hi, I too had the format accident! It was not turned on in my pocket. when I turned it on, the first thing I saw was the yellow storage icon, then the format confirmation page, then it formatted the memory. All that in super fast sequence, without me touching the screen! Maybe some dirt/sweat on the display? I lost a few videos, but not a big deal. But it is scary if it happens after a full day adventure... :(
Great comparison. I thought there wasn’t much differences that stood out. Both great results. Good thing that you brought attention to the issues with both cameras. I’m leaning to the Action 2 due to its compactness.
I train horses, a lot of fast moving and jerky. I like the feature of the DJI 2 that fixes the horizon I was wondering if that would be a better feature for me to have. Thoughts?
I see a ton of weird artifacts coming from the GoPro in the cave. Strange I’ve had far to many issues with every GoPro I’ve ever owned. I’m very excited to get my A2C.
I think the stabilization of the dji is slightly better in the cave walk. It's hard to see much difference between the 2 from a video perspective. Price Wise they are about the same. The lockup issues continue to plague GoPro which is disappointing
I just got a Hero 10 on October 29th, upgraded the firmware and on October 31st took it out to Anza Borrego firmly mounted to the dash of my 4Runner. Among other shots, I ran the Hero 10 at 5K 60fps with boost stabilization for 21.5 min and later for 29 min just letting the camera roll while I drove. The a/c was on in the 4Runner, but not going out the defrost vents. The outside temp was 91F. I had no overheating problems at all. Sure it got warm but never quit on me. The images of the landscape were rock steady and the horizon level even when I was off camber while going over obstacles. All to be expected from that camera or the A2. Just thought I'd report regarding my experience with the GP H10 and overheating which can be quite frustrating. As far as which cam I think is best from your demos, they are both great and each seem to excel in different situations. By the way, thanks for all your great content - it's been very helpful.
Hi, I'm curious which camera has higher bitrate in the video files. This will probably vary for the different resolutions and framerates, but is a good indicator for the processor speed.
Another stellar review! 8 years of film school and 30 years in the business and I'm so excited about the badass tools at our disposal these days!! I own a Hero 10, Pocket Cinema 6k, Sony A6400, Air 2s, and it looks like an Action 2 and DJI Mic is in my future. I hope you make it to 1M subscribers!
Huge fan of your comparison reviews. Very detailed and helpful. DJI Action 2 stands out for me and today it now has a magnetic protective case which is a bonus!
I bought a GoPro a couple of years ago and had the exact problems you speak of. I took it back and got the DJI Action. I couldn’t be happier with the DJI. I seriously doubt I will ever buy another GoPro product.
Judging from how it was with Action 1, DJI will release a steady stream of software updates to Action 2 and over the course of the year the image quality will improve drastically, new functions will be added, while bugs removable by software will disappear.
For Overlanding I just use a DJI Pocket 2 with the do it all handle, scosche mini magnetic plate on the back of the main body (the one they sell for smart phones) and any of the scosche (or any brand) magnetic mounts for your dashboard, like the suction cup with magnetic mount. It will hold the pocket 2 with ease (even in rough terrain) and you can flip the gimbal with ease back towards you to get a in cab POV, then back out towards the trail. I ran it in Utah at the MotorTrend Overland Adventure 2021 on my dashboard at 4k 24 and it never overheated or failed (also kept it plugged in charging while in use so it was ready when I hopped out of the cab). Then you can grab it and go super quickly and have a small gimbal camera. Since the Action 2 doesn't have a replaceable lens cap, I would prefer the GoPro on any mounting solution outside the cab while in motion.
Writing this as a guy that has never filmed or edited any video in my life so I'm just going in as a layman Gopro's sound is better, like the DJI's sound is less realistic(?) and more like those cheap headphones with a crappy mic (not that bad but you get the point), but nothing that another mic won't fix for the DJI. If you're gonna vlog with it and don't wanna bother with mics then Gopro beats the DJI due to the better sound quality out of the box but if you're gonna do something like motovlogging you're gonna get a mic for the helmet either way I prefer the DJI's video becouse while being very similar in low light you can see the Gopro shake and jitter a lot more at the last part of the test video while DJI is way smoother. Also I noticed that when transitioning between low light and normal light when you were exiting the cave the DJI needed less time to adjust to the change in light in addition to being less shaky Man does the DJI beat the Gopro in that running video, like both the color and the stability. I don't know how Alaska looks like but the Gopro was way more muted, like everything is greyed out, while DJI is more saturated. With the Gopro water is grey, sky is grey, foliage is grey, and with DJI water and sky are actually blue and foliage is colored At the hyperlapse I prefered the Gopro becouse the ground was way clearer on the rocks, but DJI becouse the colors are more vibrant in the woods, so I guess that one depends on the environment At the 1080p 240FPS test I didn't see any differences At the end of the video with the clips from both the DJI and Gopro, well both are good and the video quality is fine I think. Now I can't compare it directly becouse it was filmed in 2 different locations but I'd watch a video filmed by either without issues The DJI overheating issue when you push it to the limits, while being a problem becouse the cam is made to record at high quality, won't be an issue if you use it outdoors and not in an office unless it's like 40C outside. Now the Gopro freezing is IMO a much bigger issue becouse when you're recording out in the wild and it freezes you've lost the footage, that's it, no way of fixing it. The formatting issue is just as big a deal as the last one becouse just like with the Gopro freezing and losing footage, the DJI can format itself due to the environment and delete all the footage. And yeah, resolution isn't everything when most people have 1080p 60Hz screens at home, they're neither gonna see 4K nor 120FPS, but the higher resolution is still better than lower
No matter which go pro I have owned, overheating, freezing, random shutdowns, memory card and battery issues have always be there. I lost a full climb of Angels Landing because of the go pro battery issues, I can't just go back and re do the climb, I live in Australia. I'm giving the DJI a go to see if I have better luck.
Suggestion: when comparing and reviewing cameras you really should use if not matching shots, at least the same scenario. I really wanted to see that off-road driving footage from GoPro 10!
Very good comparison and good points totally agree that both look better in certain shots so it's hard really to pick one over the other. The question I have is how is the app for the DJI action? The GoPro app has become super helpful on the road when wanting to do quick edits and export them directly to the iPhone in 4k whereas with the DJI Air2 all my cool 4k shots are downsampled to 1080p when exporting from the app which sucks and makes it so you really have to do the edits on the macbook
I don't know if The Edge Browser is to blame, or whether you did something funky when rendering this video, but even in 4k the DJI and GoPro footage looks like it's in very low resolution. I kept looking whether RUclips had reverted to 240p while watching the beginning 30 seconds. The DJI footage especially, but at 2:06 for instance, the GoPro footage looks like it's in lower resolution than the GoPro 10 is even capable of
i kinda hate how within the review, the question is not clearly answered. most of the answers are "safe" saying depends on how you use it. I guess it was mentioned that the dji was what you thiunk youd use more but that part was abit blurred. would really appreciate youtubers to cleary take their pick on what works for them and why. ok i gotta shut up now
Dji seems better stabilization, cleaner and less pixelated in greens. It's common problem with gopros.. I have hero6 and discovered that recording in 2.7k and 50fps reduces dramatically pixelated shots while there is lots of green stuff like grass and tree leaves. I will consider to upgrade old hero to dji2, but there are some heating issues...
Hi, I'm interested in filming with my kids, activities with them. I need clarity on video and filming in general to be as clear as possible on the face, toys, objects. An easy-to-control camera with good stabilization (educational activities) and 4K 60fps / 120fps filming are enough. But I am interested in people being as clear as possible, with natural colors. What do you recommend ? Thank you.
Thanks for a great overview of the action 2! I would love to know your personal experience on using the action 2 with the screen mod in the rain and wet outdoor environment, as DJI states that the power or screen mods are not waterproof. How concerned were you when the units were wet?
It thought the GoPro displayed a wider and flatter tonal range allowing for more shadow detail on one end and holding the white points on the high end. But, appeared to have more image noise in those shadows. The DJI appeared to have a sharper, more crisp and lively image with more accurate white balance control. Need to see more on Manual vs Auto control on these models. Audio was a Pick-em. GoPro with audio sensitivity bias on closest-to-camera sound sources, while the DJI had a flatter location sensitivity bias. My only real concern about the DJI is hitting the Format Button ! It's happened to me before on an SLR. Verdict on the match up between the two - Coin Toss.
Both are great cameras. I believe this video shows the need to have both cameras as they are both #1 in different areas. I already have the GoPro 9 and don’t see the need to upgrade, but I will be grabbing an Action 2.
Nuts. The initial reviews of the GoPro 10 have said they haven't faced the freezing issues of the older models due to the new processor. Looks like that's not the case and I can't count how many times I've had the GoPro freeze up or refuse to write to a card (that it wrote to previously) at the most inopportune moments along with it happening randomly which makes isolating what caused it impossible to do. I have the DJI Osmo Action and GoPro Hero 8 Black. The DJI has been extremely reliable no matter how much abuse I put it through especially while on my motorcycle riding in some pretty harsh conditions. The GoPro Hero 8 was relegated to getting rear set shots as I didn't want to trust it with the front end shots. Even after all the firmware updates the Hero 8 still acts up randomly. The Osmo Action actually improved quite a bit, even the image quality, with each firmware update.
If I want to use for POV street or POV wedding day (usually long recording) is it worth getting the action 2? Considering the overheating problem. Or should I get GoPro instead?
I have a go pro hero 8, its a great camera but the original one I had stopped working altogether, Go pro sent me a new one, thanks for the comparison I am strongly tempted to get the DJI action 2 due to its size and a better stabilization, in due course of time I am sure it will improve by new firmware updates.
I have the Osmo Action 1 and I like it better than GoPro 7 and 8. This round, DJI still has better color imo but it's the gimmicky magnetic mount and the wider fov (I know it's a plus for lots of people) that ruined it for me. And may I know the background music in for the last test footage?
On the surface the footage both produce is really good. In my case, I am flying 300g fpv drones so the extra 100g that the GoPro has in mass overnight the DJI (top half) makes it an easy choice. Formatting the drives in the DJI now requires a swipe after pressing a button.
Nice review 😀 I have to say I'm disappointed in the action 2 as a kayak Angler I was hoping it would have the ability to use a external mic and USB power bank at the same time...how hard could it be to include a 3.5mm jack? Maybe they will come out with a power module that has one in the future but not holding my breath LOL
I have recorded hundreds of clips with my hero 10 with zero freezes and lost footage. However I never use quick capture. Were you using quick capture because I have heard that was buggy. The hero 10 looked better overall but was trash in low light and overexposed. I turn my exposure down a full stop on ev comp. Loved this video thanks for your work.
Usually GoPro freezes and gives SD card error when you use SanDisk Extreme Micro SD instead of Extreme Pro version. I had no issue with my Hero 10 yet.
How about the battery life test on both? Does action 2 with module has a much longer battery? That $75 for one battery is just too much compared to $20 each. And recharging is also an issue cause it's hard to recharge 2,3,4 modules at the same time. Also the storage space and weight.
Thanks, this is a good comparisson. Doing outside footage on a plane - I think the DJI is the worse choice - or? If I mean plane mounitng with speed below 250 km/h.
GoPro freeze issue is definitely unacceptable to me. The major reason I would get a tiny action camera is because it's convenient to use. POV/quick shot I think Action 2 is more convenient. Was considering Go 2 but Action 2 can have more storage and less likely to overheat than Go 2. Getting Action 2 for recording my family videos.
Can't go wrong with either camera and location unless you live in Europe. Legislation makes action 2 only last 10 minutes in recording before it shuts itself due to over heating.
Good news regarding accidentally formatting the SD card ... usually the data is recoverable for a reasonable cost. Immediately stop using the card and contact a reputable data recovery facility. The best recovery occurs if you only add data to the card since the last formatting (i.e. no file deletions between formatting [unless you batch delete all files at once, which is also similar to the impact of formatting]). Even with a few intra-formatting deletions, recovery will still be very good, depending on quantity and size of deletions (and new data added). Hope this helps somebody out who mistakenly believes they have lost a day of valuable work (depending on your paycheck, the recovery fee is often less than recreating the work).
I appreciate the video - it's helpful; but I wanted to clarify something - A LOT of people use action cams in low light. Most drag racers have at least one action cam (I currently have 5); and only about half of our racing is done during the day. It's really hard to find action cam reviews in low light. And there are probably a lot more of us than you would think - literally, millions. Heck, one late-model Mustang forum (which is mostly drag racers) alone has almost 200,000 members; and that's just for one car and only the later models; another one devoted solely to drag racing has 117,000. When I got my Insta 360 x2, I have to say I was extremely disappointed in how terrible it is even in moderate light - basically, it's a daytime-only camera. Your video is helpful to us because you're one of very few that actually included low light tests. Thanks.
I recently bought the GoPro9 Black camera, I'm worried what will happen to the battery if I don't use the camera for a while. Will it get swollen and die? I hade a smaller cheaper camera before, that battery swelled up so I could hardly take it out of the camera. These are LiPo batteries, right?
I have had the same problems as Jeven with my new GoPro as far as it freezing and shutting off with battery left. I also had numerous SD card errors, with the SD card provided by GoPro causing me to lose shots. Great review by Jeven
That was me on the Hero 9 with the 32G card the camera came with. Ever since I went to Samsung EVO cards ($18 locally), I've not had an issue and I have 2 of them. Both Samgungs are 128G capacity. Mine was I lost a couple of chapters within a clip. I don't shoot for hours at a time, and most of my clips are maybe 10 minutes long all told as I stop down, start up for each segment of a shoot. I do occasionally loose the connection to the app when using, but not always. Not had any overheating issues in that it constantly did so. I may have had it overheat once and it does get quite warm though. I do think some things are human error caused by not fully understanding the camera itself.
Which ever is better definitely comes down on how would you use the cameras. But it seems that the DJI is more like a camcorder than an actual action camera. I have the GP10 for a while and luckily dont experience much freezing.
there's shots that look better on GoPro and others that look better on DJI. I ordered the DJI because I place availability and size high at the top of my priorities list. Can't wait to try it out
I got the A2 but left unpacked after I start saw so many negative reviews of overheating and limited battery life besides the dependency of the power module. So I am thinking to return the A2 not what I expected.
I've bought GoPro10 and addressed the same issues like shutting off, freezing a lot on 4k120fps footage. I've lost a lot of precious work for these reasons. Obviously, I've returned GoPro10. I'm kinda sad to hear that DJI has an overheating issue so I will just wait for both companies to fix their products until they are safe like GoPro9. At least, you won't lose anything on GoPro9 4k60fps.
Can't pick a single favorite. For size, flexibility, stabilization, the DJI. For low light, the GP10. So, my personal sum: DJI, but not in the dark. And I can't see carrying both. A deal breaker might be -- how they work on a motorbike, scooter, bike.
i feel like the image quality is better on the gopro and it’s internal color grading is also superior. The DJI seems to have focus issues and sound quality is bad imo. But that’s just my opinion from a couple videos 🤷♀️
how about the gopro's audio? Does it still have issues like the 9 with clicks and pops in the audio? Cause thats a big con and a reason ill likely never buy another gopro camera.
It's depends on some scene, in some case Gopro is better and Action 2 too. For me I choose Action 2 because it is small and easy to use. I got so many model of Gopro so I want to change in this time.
My action 2 just arrived and any shooting with 1080 / 60 is overheating within five minutes shooting and afterwards need to cool a long time before can be used longer than a minute 🤔 besides that big issue everything is fine 😢😭
I just filed an RMA for the gopro 10 after it drained the battery twice without any use. I bought 10 to replace my 7, hoping it will solve all the stability issues I've been having all these years. Boy, was I wrong! It's the same buggy crap that freezes, turns off for now reason and suddenly eats your battery, even after the latest firmware upgrade. So sad :/
Both cameras make great photos and videos but in reality, both cameras also heat up quickly. Good thing though that they're acknowledging this issue and coming up with solutions to this problem. DJI has started launching the protective case that helps lower the temp of the Action 2 while in use, which I think is a good start! We're still waiting for how GoPro will address this problem but it's evident that we're slowly upgrading to better and more functional action cameras than before!
The freezing, glitching and not powering on is a GoPro staple. I have a Hero5 and 2 Hero7, they both have this problem. After switching to aftermarket batteries and a external charger, its less often an issue. I'm glad to see they have a formidable competitor now. I'll be looking at the DJI cam next for recording my motorcycle rides.
Check out my full DJI Action 2 Review: ruclips.net/video/l0g9Mclupqk/видео.html
Stellar review as usual, but those slippery rock moon walking skills 09:52 are under appreciated.
@@harmonichealings sorry for watching the whole video 🤣🤣🤣💪✌
Jeven, one question for you. Have you tried comparing RS vs HS when using the same resolution and framerate? I see you compared 4K60 on A2 and 5.3K60 on the H10. 4K/60 on the HERO10 will allow you to shoot in High HyperSmooth. I believe that would be much more comparable? REmember that 5.3K60 only has Standard HyperSmooth available. Maybe that makes it more apples to apples comp?
I just want to give you one suggestion for the audio-test at the beginning - after each of u talk for some time, swap the 2 cameras and let us hear each of ur voice from the other. That would further improve ur already good comparrison imo. Otherwise good stuff, cheers for the review!
Can we zoom in and out on GoPro and can it be used with an external mic, please?
One good thing about the Action 2's magnetic design is how easy it is to attach the cam from one accessory to the other! It's a step more efficient than using screws
I have a GoPro magnetic attachment from Ulanzi that works very very similar to this and it works really well.
Would magnetic design help attach it to a drone?
@@chefbelgium no lol I've only been using the magnetic attachment cause my tpu mount is in the mail and i trust it if its flying but one small crash and the cam flys off the mount.
its great for lighter activities, i wouldn't trust it for water or rougher activities
can't go wrong with either one of the cameras. both are very capable cameras. I just like the gopro because it's simpler and easier to use and has removable battery, lens cover and slots and ports in one single body. just like osmo action 1. ahem.
I’m finally getting the Action 2. Thanks to your reviews. DJI listened to the feedbacks and they now gave us a magnetic protective case for the Action 2.
I still use Hero 7 Black since it released. My thought was the freezing issue got sorted out with newer versions and definitely in Hero 10. But, WTF!!!! It's still there!!!!
I agree with you. It's extremely annoying when it freezes and can ruin your work literally.
Not sure why GoPro hasn't addressed that issue even with better processors now!!!
I noticed that DJI Action 2 looks superb in low light and stabilization too. The GoPro needed to be on the boosted mode to make it as stable as the DJI Action 2.
I'm still a fan of the DJI Osmo Action 1, but if I should to choose between any GoPro cams and DJI Osmo Action 2, I'll take DJI with no doubt.
Gopro is 5k loser
I like my Osmo Action 1. It never failed me and I did a lot of different video stuff with it, including macro shots with a replacement lens. It seems the Action 2 is much more specialized and a very different product. The Osmo Action 1 can still compete, it just reliably runs and runs and runs - love it!
I think what you’re missing is using it for water sports.
1. None of the modules are waterproof. It severely limits you on your storage and battery life.
2. The magnetic attachment system won’t be great for things like. Surfing, waterskiing, or jet skiing.
3. If use a waterproof case, then you have to deal with condensation in the case.
The main unit is waterproof and it contains a 32 GB memory module.
@@ToddBryantsr 22gb only. The system require 10gb
@@Knypsterino that clip will do you little good when you fall at 25mph water-skiing.
@@Knypsterino do you will trust clip on wildland skying or sky jumping.
I think when comparing stabilization you should use the same resolution & frame rate. That makes a difference in the exported look, in my opinion.
Seems like Gopro finally has worthy opponent. I've GP4 5 and 7, they all suffer from ocasional glitching; shutting off, freezing and not powering on. Most issues went away after swapping to aftermarket batteries though. Due to firm factor and accessories, the DJI will be my next cam for recording on my motorcycle.
I honestly feel overall the Osmo Action 1 is still better. Feels more sturdy and love the 2 screens and removable lens cover.
Same here!
Same here and I’ve never had a problem with it overheating either.
Same here. I had a $250 credit with DJI, so I pulled the trigger on the A2…..guess I could use it for B roll…
I kind of agree, but also, despite being called Action "2", I don't believe it is designed to replace the 1st one. Instead, it is a new camera system, with the Action name. Its good for consumers though, as we have the choice to purchase either types.
@@MbKTheGLow yeah that’s kind of how I see it. Modular for different uses. I think for the general person that might want to take it to catch some clips of action type shots it will be a great camera. I still love the Osmo Action and hope they maybe revise it one day and keep the same body style.
Excellent comparison! At the end of the day, just pick one and go with it. Sometimes we beat ourselves to death trying to make a decision when in the end, it's not going to make much of a difference.
overheating : if you unfold the the fingers under the GoPro, it won't overheat that much. That's why it would overheat in the office, but not on the field : fingers unfolded and air flowing freely around the camera.
the frame at 6:56 tells you everything you need to know. DJI's product seems rushed and not mature enough to be considered an actual GOPRO competitor. They don't even include a standard threaded mount for the DJI really tells you everything you need to know about the thought of the product.
Can you elaborate a little? I'm not seeing it at that time code. The acton 2 lacks a little of the fine detail, but it overall is a more pleasing image to my eye. The go pro looks over sharpened and harder to work with in the larger frame. As for the threaded mount comment, I'm in a wait and see state, we shouldn't be too quick to judge the failure rate of the mag mount, but it's definitly a concern.
They do include a threaded ball type mount.
@@DavidBeechfieldBrownArt how is that different from the go pro option though? And you can still get an Action 2 mount adapter to go pro 1/4 20 giving you the same options, yes?
@@MrMoviePhoneEx No the GoPro looks much better! And my girlfriend sitting next to me agrees you can clearly see it in the video footage at high resolution.
To me the GoPro footage looks better, more sharpness, color saturation, and detail. Also, the Action 2 gets quite distorted on the edges of the frame. Yes, the FOVs are different, but the narrower FOV of the GoPro seems generally more usable.
You didn't discuss durability, waterproof and how sturdy gopro is compared to action 2.
This is a video about "which has the best CAMERA" he actually talks more about durability than I thought.
Yeah, and how much heavier the go pro feels when you try to do anything pov, as well as how discrete the gopro is for any public shot..´
Here comes the time in the year when I state " I own a here 7 black and will continue rocking it for one more year!" Still giving me really great results!!!
Thank you for addressing the reliability issues. GoPro has let me down so much.
hahahahah "how did I end up in alaska?" I was surprised how well the action 2 stabilizes in low light. Great video and you are welcome to come back up to alaska to do more crazy things anytime...
I recently purchased the Hero10, upgrading from Hero7 and I am blown away from its quality image!
I like the Action2 size and magnetic mount, but after seeing this review if I would have to buy a camera now I would still go with the Hero10.
Great helpful review, thanks so much for sharing it
Nicely done! I’m still rocking the GoPro 9 and just ordered the DJI! Can’t wait
That's dope you guys got a chance to collaborate. After looking at your comparisons, I like the image on the Hero 10 better.
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Thank you for good videos.
There are so many different types of ND filters that fit the GoPro Hero 10. My question is which one is the best, it's not a question of the price but from which company is the best.
There are from Sandmarc, variable ND filters. Tiffen has 3 ND filters plus 1 Polarid filter. Polar pro Shutter Collection, Neewer 4 pack filter ND and Telesin has Circular Polarizer Filter. Maybe there are some other filters that are better?
Grateful for answers.
Hi, I too had the format accident! It was not turned on in my pocket. when I turned it on, the first thing I saw was the yellow storage icon, then the format confirmation page, then it formatted the memory. All that in super fast sequence, without me touching the screen! Maybe some dirt/sweat on the display? I lost a few videos, but not a big deal. But it is scary if it happens after a full day adventure... :(
I lost so much footage. An entire vlog I shot about the camera... I hope they change this soon
What was the highest outdoor temperature you used Action2 at? It's crutial. Was it at least above 25°C (77F)?
I don't regret getting the gopro.
Awesome comparison 👏🏻
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Does it freeze like the previous iterations
@@ChrisParayno I have not experienced it yet because I shoot short clips but I believe it does freeze (firmware update will solve the problem)
Good choice ! . me too, I'm super happy with my GP 10
Me too, GoPro 10👍
Great comparison. I thought there wasn’t much differences that stood out. Both great results. Good thing that you brought attention to the issues with both cameras. I’m leaning to the Action 2 due to its compactness.
I train horses, a lot of fast moving and jerky. I like the feature of the DJI 2 that fixes the horizon I was wondering if that would be a better feature for me to have. Thoughts?
How about sound of single module?
I see a ton of weird artifacts coming from the GoPro in the cave. Strange
I’ve had far to many issues with every GoPro I’ve ever owned. I’m very excited to get my A2C.
I think the stabilization of the dji is slightly better in the cave walk. It's hard to see much difference between the 2 from a video perspective. Price Wise they are about the same. The lockup issues continue to plague GoPro which is disappointing
I just got a Hero 10 on October 29th, upgraded the firmware and on October 31st took it out to Anza Borrego firmly mounted to the dash of my 4Runner. Among other shots, I ran the Hero 10 at 5K 60fps with boost stabilization for 21.5 min and later for 29 min just letting the camera roll while I drove. The a/c was on in the 4Runner, but not going out the defrost vents. The outside temp was 91F. I had no overheating problems at all. Sure it got warm but never quit on me. The images of the landscape were rock steady and the horizon level even when I was off camber while going over obstacles. All to be expected from that camera or the A2. Just thought I'd report regarding my experience with the GP H10 and overheating which can be quite frustrating. As far as which cam I think is best from your demos, they are both great and each seem to excel in different situations. By the way, thanks for all your great content - it's been very helpful.
Hi, I'm curious which camera has higher bitrate in the video files. This will probably vary for the different resolutions and framerates, but is a good indicator for the processor speed.
Another stellar review! 8 years of film school and 30 years in the business and I'm so excited about the badass tools at our disposal these days!! I own a Hero 10, Pocket Cinema 6k, Sony A6400, Air 2s, and it looks like an Action 2 and DJI Mic is in my future. I hope you make it to 1M subscribers!
Huge fan of your comparison reviews. Very detailed and helpful. DJI Action 2 stands out for me and today it now has a magnetic protective case which is a bonus!
I bought a GoPro a couple of years ago and had the exact problems you speak of. I took it back and got the DJI Action. I couldn’t be happier with the DJI. I seriously doubt I will ever buy another GoPro product.
Judging from how it was with Action 1, DJI will release a steady stream of software updates to Action 2 and over the course of the year the image quality will improve drastically, new functions will be added, while bugs removable by software will disappear.
How can image quality improve?
Which is best deal to buy with external mic
For Overlanding I just use a DJI Pocket 2 with the do it all handle, scosche mini magnetic plate on the back of the main body (the one they sell for smart phones) and any of the scosche (or any brand) magnetic mounts for your dashboard, like the suction cup with magnetic mount. It will hold the pocket 2 with ease (even in rough terrain) and you can flip the gimbal with ease back towards you to get a in cab POV, then back out towards the trail. I ran it in Utah at the MotorTrend Overland Adventure 2021 on my dashboard at 4k 24 and it never overheated or failed (also kept it plugged in charging while in use so it was ready when I hopped out of the cab). Then you can grab it and go super quickly and have a small gimbal camera. Since the Action 2 doesn't have a replaceable lens cap, I would prefer the GoPro on any mounting solution outside the cab while in motion.
Writing this as a guy that has never filmed or edited any video in my life so I'm just going in as a layman
Gopro's sound is better, like the DJI's sound is less realistic(?) and more like those cheap headphones with a crappy mic (not that bad but you get the point), but nothing that another mic won't fix for the DJI. If you're gonna vlog with it and don't wanna bother with mics then Gopro beats the DJI due to the better sound quality out of the box but if you're gonna do something like motovlogging you're gonna get a mic for the helmet either way
I prefer the DJI's video becouse while being very similar in low light you can see the Gopro shake and jitter a lot more at the last part of the test video while DJI is way smoother. Also I noticed that when transitioning between low light and normal light when you were exiting the cave the DJI needed less time to adjust to the change in light in addition to being less shaky
Man does the DJI beat the Gopro in that running video, like both the color and the stability. I don't know how Alaska looks like but the Gopro was way more muted, like everything is greyed out, while DJI is more saturated. With the Gopro water is grey, sky is grey, foliage is grey, and with DJI water and sky are actually blue and foliage is colored
At the hyperlapse I prefered the Gopro becouse the ground was way clearer on the rocks, but DJI becouse the colors are more vibrant in the woods, so I guess that one depends on the environment
At the 1080p 240FPS test I didn't see any differences
At the end of the video with the clips from both the DJI and Gopro, well both are good and the video quality is fine I think. Now I can't compare it directly becouse it was filmed in 2 different locations but I'd watch a video filmed by either without issues
The DJI overheating issue when you push it to the limits, while being a problem becouse the cam is made to record at high quality, won't be an issue if you use it outdoors and not in an office unless it's like 40C outside. Now the Gopro freezing is IMO a much bigger issue becouse when you're recording out in the wild and it freezes you've lost the footage, that's it, no way of fixing it. The formatting issue is just as big a deal as the last one becouse just like with the Gopro freezing and losing footage, the DJI can format itself due to the environment and delete all the footage. And yeah, resolution isn't everything when most people have 1080p 60Hz screens at home, they're neither gonna see 4K nor 120FPS, but the higher resolution is still better than lower
Great video man! Quick question: what’s the selfie stick you have there for the action cam 2?
No matter which go pro I have owned, overheating, freezing, random shutdowns, memory card and battery issues have always be there. I lost a full climb of Angels Landing because of the go pro battery issues, I can't just go back and re do the climb, I live in Australia. I'm giving the DJI a go to see if I have better luck.
Suggestion: when comparing and reviewing cameras you really should use if not matching shots, at least the same scenario. I really wanted to see that off-road driving footage from GoPro 10!
Very good comparison and good points totally agree that both look better in certain shots so it's hard really to pick one over the other. The question I have is how is the app for the DJI action? The GoPro app has become super helpful on the road when wanting to do quick edits and export them directly to the iPhone in 4k whereas with the DJI Air2 all my cool 4k shots are downsampled to 1080p when exporting from the app which sucks and makes it so you really have to do the edits on the macbook
Thank you Jeven for this useful review. You Rock.
I don't know if The Edge Browser is to blame, or whether you did something funky when rendering this video, but even in 4k the DJI and GoPro footage looks like it's in very low resolution. I kept looking whether RUclips had reverted to 240p while watching the beginning 30 seconds. The DJI footage especially, but at 2:06 for instance, the GoPro footage looks like it's in lower resolution than the GoPro 10 is even capable of
i kinda hate how within the review, the question is not clearly answered. most of the answers are "safe" saying depends on how you use it. I guess it was mentioned that the dji was what you thiunk youd use more but that part was abit blurred. would really appreciate youtubers to cleary take their pick on what works for them and why.
ok i gotta shut up now
Dji seems better stabilization, cleaner and less pixelated in greens. It's common problem with gopros.. I have hero6 and discovered that recording in 2.7k and 50fps reduces dramatically pixelated shots while there is lots of green stuff like grass and tree leaves. I will consider to upgrade old hero to dji2, but there are some heating issues...
Hi wich one wuould you get for helmet mount and atv action shot. thanks in advance and awesome video
Hi, I'm interested in filming with my kids, activities with them. I need clarity on video and filming in general to be as clear as possible on the face, toys, objects. An easy-to-control camera with good stabilization (educational activities) and 4K 60fps / 120fps filming are enough. But I am interested in people being as clear as possible, with natural colors. What do you recommend ? Thank you.
Thanks for a great overview of the action 2! I would love to know your personal experience on using the action 2 with the screen mod in the rain and wet outdoor environment, as DJI states that the power or screen mods are not waterproof. How concerned were you when the units were wet?
It thought the GoPro displayed a wider and flatter tonal range allowing for more shadow detail on one end and holding the white points on the high end. But, appeared to have more image noise in those shadows. The DJI appeared to have a sharper, more crisp and lively image with more accurate white balance control. Need to see more on Manual vs Auto control on these models. Audio was a Pick-em. GoPro with audio sensitivity bias on closest-to-camera sound sources, while the DJI had a flatter location sensitivity bias. My only real concern about the DJI is hitting the Format Button ! It's happened to me before on an SLR. Verdict on the match up between the two - Coin Toss.
Both are great cameras. I believe this video shows the need to have both cameras as they are both #1 in different areas. I already have the GoPro 9 and don’t see the need to upgrade, but I will be grabbing an Action 2.
Nuts. The initial reviews of the GoPro 10 have said they haven't faced the freezing issues of the older models due to the new processor. Looks like that's not the case and I can't count how many times I've had the GoPro freeze up or refuse to write to a card (that it wrote to previously) at the most inopportune moments along with it happening randomly which makes isolating what caused it impossible to do. I have the DJI Osmo Action and GoPro Hero 8 Black. The DJI has been extremely reliable no matter how much abuse I put it through especially while on my motorcycle riding in some pretty harsh conditions. The GoPro Hero 8 was relegated to getting rear set shots as I didn't want to trust it with the front end shots. Even after all the firmware updates the Hero 8 still acts up randomly. The Osmo Action actually improved quite a bit, even the image quality, with each firmware update.
If I want to use for POV street or POV wedding day (usually long recording) is it worth getting the action 2? Considering the overheating problem. Or should I get GoPro instead?
I’m wondering the same .. Hope somebody gives us their feedback
Hi, which do you think is better for scuba diving? The Dji or the gopro?
Amazing review bro 👏
I have a go pro hero 8, its a great camera but the original one I had stopped working altogether, Go pro sent me a new one, thanks for the comparison I am strongly tempted to get the DJI action 2 due to its size and a better stabilization, in due course of time I am sure it will improve by new firmware updates.
I have the Osmo Action 1 and I like it better than GoPro 7 and 8. This round, DJI still has better color imo but it's the gimmicky magnetic mount and the wider fov (I know it's a plus for lots of people) that ruined it for me. And may I know the background music in for the last test footage?
On the surface the footage both produce is really good. In my case, I am flying 300g fpv drones so the extra 100g that the GoPro has in mass overnight the DJI (top half) makes it an easy choice. Formatting the drives in the DJI now requires a swipe after pressing a button.
Nice review 😀
I have to say I'm disappointed in the action 2 as a kayak Angler I was hoping it would have the ability to use a external mic and USB power bank at the same time...how hard could it be to include a 3.5mm jack?
Maybe they will come out with a power module that has one in the future but not holding my breath LOL
Hi,
Great video. Wich one has the loudest beeps? Thanks.
I have recorded hundreds of clips with my hero 10 with zero freezes and lost footage. However I never use quick capture. Were you using quick capture because I have heard that was buggy. The hero 10 looked better overall but was trash in low light and overexposed. I turn my exposure down a full stop on ev comp. Loved this video thanks for your work.
Just returned mine today due to multiple freezes
Usually GoPro freezes and gives SD card error when you use SanDisk Extreme Micro SD instead of Extreme Pro version. I had no issue with my Hero 10 yet.
@@kiyotoishii4833 I had a lot of issues with my hero 8 but none with this camera. I use the San disk image mate pro 128gb
@@kiyotoishii4833 i have 128gb extreme plus.
Reminder that the GoPro HERO10 has 2.7K/240 as well.
How about the battery life test on both? Does action 2 with module has a much longer battery? That $75 for one battery is just too much compared to $20 each. And recharging is also an issue cause it's hard to recharge 2,3,4 modules at the same time. Also the storage space and weight.
Thanks, this is a good comparisson. Doing outside footage on a plane - I think the DJI is the worse choice - or? If I mean plane mounitng with speed below 250 km/h.
GoPro freeze issue is definitely unacceptable to me. The major reason I would get a tiny action camera is because it's convenient to use. POV/quick shot I think Action 2 is more convenient. Was considering Go 2 but Action 2 can have more storage and less likely to overheat than Go 2. Getting Action 2 for recording my family videos.
Can't go wrong with either camera and location unless you live in Europe. Legislation makes action 2 only last 10 minutes in recording before it shuts itself due to over heating.
Good news regarding accidentally formatting the SD card ... usually the data is recoverable for a reasonable cost. Immediately stop using the card and contact a reputable data recovery facility. The best recovery occurs if you only add data to the card since the last formatting (i.e. no file deletions between formatting [unless you batch delete all files at once, which is also similar to the impact of formatting]). Even with a few intra-formatting deletions, recovery will still be very good, depending on quantity and size of deletions (and new data added). Hope this helps somebody out who mistakenly believes they have lost a day of valuable work (depending on your paycheck, the recovery fee is often less than recreating the work).
Can you compare the action 2 with its predecessor the osmo action? Is it worth upgrading?
I appreciate the video - it's helpful; but I wanted to clarify something - A LOT of people use action cams in low light. Most drag racers have at least one action cam (I currently have 5); and only about half of our racing is done during the day. It's really hard to find action cam reviews in low light. And there are probably a lot more of us than you would think - literally, millions. Heck, one late-model Mustang forum (which is mostly drag racers) alone has almost 200,000 members; and that's just for one car and only the later models; another one devoted solely to drag racing has 117,000. When I got my Insta 360 x2, I have to say I was extremely disappointed in how terrible it is even in moderate light - basically, it's a daytime-only camera. Your video is helpful to us because you're one of very few that actually included low light tests. Thanks.
That ice cave looks like a good place for a grizzly bear to hideout
I recently bought the GoPro9 Black camera, I'm worried what will happen to the battery if I don't use the camera for a while. Will it get swollen and die? I hade a smaller cheaper camera before, that battery swelled up so I could hardly take it out of the camera. These are LiPo batteries, right?
Great job comparing these two cameras. Your videos are always professional and informative. Keep up the good work.
Will the overheating issue be a firmware fix. I was looking at getting the Action 2 until I read about this issue.
I have had the same problems as Jeven with my new GoPro as far as it freezing and shutting off with battery left. I also had numerous SD card errors, with the SD card provided by GoPro causing me to lose shots. Great review by Jeven
That was me on the Hero 9 with the 32G card the camera came with. Ever since I went to Samsung EVO cards ($18 locally), I've not had an issue and I have 2 of them. Both Samgungs are 128G capacity. Mine was I lost a couple of chapters within a clip. I don't shoot for hours at a time, and most of my clips are maybe 10 minutes long all told as I stop down, start up for each segment of a shoot. I do occasionally loose the connection to the app when using, but not always. Not had any overheating issues in that it constantly did so. I may have had it overheat once and it does get quite warm though.
I do think some things are human error caused by not fully understanding the camera itself.
Which ever is better definitely comes down on how would you use the cameras. But it seems that the DJI is more like a camcorder than an actual action camera. I have the GP10 for a while and luckily dont experience much freezing.
Action 2 might be the thing for me, I am not 100% tho. Which one has the easier work around?
there's shots that look better on GoPro and others that look better on DJI. I ordered the DJI because I place availability and size high at the top of my priorities list. Can't wait to try it out
I got the A2 but left unpacked after I start saw so many negative reviews of overheating and limited battery life besides the dependency of the power module. So I am thinking to return the A2 not what I expected.
??Which of these cameras when used for stock video in daylight settings will pass muster with ShutterStock?
I've bought GoPro10 and addressed the same issues like shutting off, freezing a lot on 4k120fps footage. I've lost a lot of precious work for these reasons. Obviously, I've returned GoPro10. I'm kinda sad to hear that DJI has an overheating issue so I will just wait for both companies to fix their products until they are safe like GoPro9. At least, you won't lose anything on GoPro9 4k60fps.
I choked up when you said it formatted itself 😅🤣
Hi
With gopro do you have to have the subscription? Can you use it and the app without subscription?
Can't pick a single favorite. For size, flexibility, stabilization, the DJI. For low light, the GP10. So, my personal sum: DJI, but not in the dark. And I can't see carrying both.
A deal breaker might be -- how they work on a motorbike, scooter, bike.
i feel like the image quality is better on the gopro and it’s internal color grading is also superior. The DJI seems to have focus issues and sound quality is bad imo. But that’s just my opinion from a couple videos 🤷♀️
non-removable lens and degradable battery in main module aren’t a deal breakers?
how about the gopro's audio? Does it still have issues like the 9 with clicks and pops in the audio? Cause thats a big con and a reason ill likely never buy another gopro camera.
Would like to see how a iPhone 13 Pro Max as this is my video camera and looking to get the action 2. Also still photos?
I have a GoPro Hero 5 black which use to record my motorcycle rides (chin mounted). Should I get this DJI ore Hero 8 black? Thank you people
Hero 8 black. I’m using for my motorcycle vlog. It’s great 😊
@@tubias09 thanks mate
get the SanDisk Extreme Pro freezing up issue solved...
I wounder what all pro filmers on RUclips does with their GoPros, because my GoPros never freezes or looses videos?
It's depends on some scene, in some case Gopro is better and Action 2 too. For me I choose Action 2 because it is small and easy to use. I got so many model of Gopro so I want to change in this time.
For filming fishing, on generally bight days, would you recommend the dji, the GoPro, or the insta one r with one inch mod Jeven?
I’ve had very good days using my action out fishing
My action 2 just arrived and any shooting with 1080 / 60 is overheating within five minutes shooting and afterwards need to cool a long time before can be used longer than a minute 🤔 besides that big issue everything is fine 😢😭
What’s the best for low light in linear mode? Ty
Awesome work guys! I really like the fact you went on location and do real shooting instead of just test shoot in an ideal environment.
I just filed an RMA for the gopro 10 after it drained the battery twice without any use. I bought 10 to replace my 7, hoping it will solve all the stability issues I've been having all these years. Boy, was I wrong! It's the same buggy crap that freezes, turns off for now reason and suddenly eats your battery, even after the latest firmware upgrade. So sad :/
Do a comparison between DJI Action 2 and Insta360 GO 2!!
Both cameras make great photos and videos but in reality, both cameras also heat up quickly. Good thing though that they're acknowledging this issue and coming up with solutions to this problem. DJI has started launching the protective case that helps lower the temp of the Action 2 while in use, which I think is a good start! We're still waiting for how GoPro will address this problem but it's evident that we're slowly upgrading to better and more functional action cameras than before!
The freezing, glitching and not powering on is a GoPro staple. I have a Hero5 and 2 Hero7, they both have this problem. After switching to aftermarket batteries and a external charger, its less often an issue.
I'm glad to see they have a formidable competitor now. I'll be looking at the DJI cam next for recording my motorcycle rides.