It’s not that people are taking it personally it that they’re trying to put things in people minds that aren’t true. I personally know a lot of god fearing people in Greek organizations. And the fact that they’re blaming Greek life for the things they did is wrong. They chose to make those choices and they need to be accountable for the actions that they made.
They have established soul ties to these organizations and they don't even recognize the idolatry they are in. A lot of these people have whole shrines to these organizations in their homes and see nothing wrong with it. I can guarantee you'll never see a shrine of Jesus in their homes though. I do want to say you might want to remove that zodiac sign from your name though because that's not of God either
Shar Jones ma’am. Just because they have a blue and white dove, or a pink and green ivy leaf in their house doesn’t make it a shrine. Yes some Greeks have pic of their undergrad or grad Greek like experience but it doesn’t make it a shrine. Y’all are literally in a box because I personally know people in NPHC Greek like and they are men/women of God. And the main thing that bothers me is they the blame the organization on what the did in their chapter. Their org didn’t make them drink, party or participate in other festivities. They chose to do that stuff.
@@trin3516 ma'am let me leave you with some food for though. This is all in love “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is? Jeremiah 17:9 NLT But most of all, my brothers and sisters, never take an oath, by heaven or earth or anything else. Just say a simple yes or no, so that you will not sin and be condemned. James 5:12 NLT But I say, do not make any vows! Do not say, ‘By heaven!’ because heaven is God’s throne. And do not say, ‘By the earth!’ because the earth is his footstool. And do not say, ‘By Jerusalem!’ for Jerusalem is the city of the great King. Do not even say, ‘By my head!’ for you can’t turn one hair white or black. Just say a simple, ‘Yes, I will,’ or ‘No, I won’t.’ Anything beyond this is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37 NLT But we belong to God, and those who know God listen to us. If they do not belong to God, they do not listen to us. That is how we know if someone has the Spirit of truth or the spirit of deception. 1 John 4:6 NLT
Shar Jones I understand what your saying. But then blaming the org they joined for their behavior is bs. No one made them join a Greek life org and no one made them do anything like I’ve mentioned before. If they are that weak minded to be a follower than that’s on them. If people were going out drinking, they should have said no if that wasn’t them. They need to take responsibility for the actions that they did. They need to stop blaming others for their weak minded actions.
I am sooo proud of you two!!! I felt like I needed to encourage you two. Keep going... Keep telling your story. I know it's hard, but y'all helping people out here. God bless your marriage and your message. I can't wait to see what God does thru you.
Hello, I must admit that I only had the opportunity to watch the first 15-minutes of this video. With that said, I wish you the best on your journey towards having a better and positive relationship with God.
So like I am a Christian and I was planning on joining an organization when I transfer to a four year. Thank you for sharing this, I've learned something from this. I would still like to talk to you guys about it
I appreciate hearing such a depth of Biblical knowledge from this young couple. I praise the Lord for your example and your willingness to do hard things.
I have been a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. and pledged undergraduate. Hazing for my chapter stopped before I even arrived on campus and has not been a part of our pledge process. I attended a very prestigious institution and while other organizations did haze, we did not. As you may or may not know, all of the Divine 9 as part of the NPHC denounced and put processes in place to do the same. I’m sorry that you have felt that your experience has led you to believe that you did not feel that you can work for the organization and serve God. Good luck to you.
The hazing is to break down a person like in the military or a gang, but do the Divine 9 say prayers, sing hymns, worship and/or adore Greek gods and goddesses? If so, this is idolatry and pagan worship which the Most High God says to not put any idols before him or in His presence. This is the biggest problem. Then these orgs are called "Divine" which is only set apart for Jehovah. He does not share his glory.
Hello, I am not a member of any organization but my daughter is in one and there are some things that you have said that would've had me concerned as a mother. I expressed to my daughter that she should never allow an organization to control her life. It seems as if you allowed the greek life to control you. Refusing to wear certain colors? Failed classes? If I was your parent, I would've told you to fall back until you gain control. We all have to do what we need to do to be happy and if you are now truly happy, is all that matters. You seem to be a very passionate person in whatever you do so please make sure to remember that people can turn almost anything in to an addiction including organizations (Greek, Social, Religion, etc..) and that you must make sure you know yourself and maintain control over everything you do and not get caught up where you lose focus from the big picture. I wish you much luck in life and hope you continue to be happy. God bless!
I denounced Phi Beta Sigma myself Holy Spirit spoke to me on several occasions not to do the brother greeting ever again because he said every time I was shaking hands I was strengthening the covenant and the only covenant we should be in is with Christ through his blood. Keep pressing through blessings on you and your wife. Forcefully Advancing the Kingdom of God Apostle Shawn T Jackson.
God bless you, Bro. and Sis. Stephenson. Continue to fight the good fight of faith. I renounced my membership in July of 2019. I, too, am committed to seeing men and women loosed from the bonds of secret societies, be it freemasonry, fraternities, sororities or something else. Who the Son sets free, is free INDEED (John 8:36)! To God and His Son Jesus Christ alone be all glory, honor and praise.
I pledged Zeta on December 1, 1972 at a Black University and I came out in 1981 because I became a minister of the Gospel. I denounced because Jesus is the light of my life and my everything. I read the comment about the Sigma' founder being a bishop and I wondered what that bishop would think of all the profanity you use at your shows and what would that Sigma would think of you grabbing your crouch while performing on line. I was appalled when I saw and heard them. Whenever I go to my home town where the university is located former sorors want to get together and introduce me to the sorors at the University because everyone thinks that I did great things with the sorority, but I have to say no because "thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee. Linda
Every Brother is not a brother. If it is not for you fine. But I will always be there for my Brothers. Your first mistake is comparing a fraternity to the gospel of any religion. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. Good luck on your continued journey.
If these people trust and live for the real truth God this world instead of these organizations the world would be a better place instead of where it's at right now!
I will give them a heart to know me, I am the Lord, I will be their God and they shall return ton me with their whole heart. Praise the Lord! Thou shall worship the Lord thy God, him only shalt thou serve. Thanks for your testimony and continue to follow Christ.
I pledged Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity INC. Spr ‘07. I will never denounce my brotherhood. I respect that you wrestled with your issues and other logistics of life however don’t blame the shield. You battled just as we all do but you made the choice that was best for YOU. Don’t spread falsehoods about the organization. I could actually digg and shine a bright light on some key issues. As long as you’re in an earthly shell you and me both we will all be imperfect. Good luck with your walk and God bless. It’s crazy how people get saved and become super holy and super spiritual and all of a sudden they get these prophetic revelations. I’m not perfect. I don’t claim to be. There was a point when I was preaching every Thursday and every Sunday HOWEVER I fell on my own when I lost my dad. I left the ministry and the church for my own selfish reasons. A frat who was younger but was also my big brother in ministry came down from his mountain experience to get me out of my valley experience. The frat has nothing to do with your personal shortcomings and now you want the to take the fall for the reason your reforming. You’re calling the frat a cult. During your sacred ritual didn’t they read a bible verse that told you “BEHOLD HOW GOOD AND PLEASANT IT IS TO DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY”. This is so wrong but I CANNOT cast judgement and but I can say whoever’s or whatever church you joined to lead you to this, the doctrine that you are spreading, it sounds like a “CULT”
WILLIE FRANCIS what’s good MAB!!! This video was crazy for me to watch. I think people don’t know how to separate the two. She made mention of how once you get saved Christ becomes a part of you. That’s not true. Christ is apart of you once you leave the womb. The holy scripture says “if any man be in Christ he is a new creature OLD things have passed away!” The scripture is iterating that Christ is putting you on a spiritual assignment to give birth to your greatness. These two were meant for one another because the logic in this was ludicrous.
Great video. I'm a Zeta and I used to follow you both on Twitter. I loved seeing the change in both of you. Amazing stuff. Takes a lot of courage and you both are doing it openly and without fear. Great stuff
Hello. I understand that your a zeta. My wife is a zeta and she just got back from Greece I need to know the truth about what goes on because I'm seriously thinking of filing for divorce because I can't be with someone who goes against my heavenly father
@@briancoleman9077 that's not semantics that's sardonic lol I see u never took a debate course. Look that's repetition ..and not contradictory to your RELIGION? There no GREEK IDOLS referenced to your toothpaste lol smh. Look I know you paid a lot of money over the years and said/pledged a lot of "iffy" subjects? Just for a moment.. pretend you're not in the frat and you're just a *Interest .. and you're pastor is right beside you... and he follows alongside with you through the whole process.. (with your references to idols, Greek gods, pledging your soul) do you think if HE, not you had the choice to drop you from the line on the basis of it being totally in Line with Gods word or God itself.. do you think you would still be "made" 🤔
@@theartist6764 I'm not tripping. I do noy care. You responded to my thoughts. You think however you like. You most Certainly can't or won't change mine. BLUE FOR LIFE! Best Of Luck.
@@briancoleman9077lol better not. I literally grew up in this Greek ishh. I know too damn much about the D9 ..too much, as a kid-now. And I didn't even have a choice not to know it. But that's the reason I chose not to go that route. This (greek) is only gonna be here on earth, and I chose not to sacrifice or tarnish my soul just for some earthly letters. But everybody has there own path they take. I'm just happy to see all these denouncing videos catching on. But I'm not judging you bro, everybody has there own path its kool
I never heard anybody say what you said from that perspective but understand this some people grew up with fraternity and sorority members around them all their lives and the expectation is there it's like you're in line from the jump. I have caught brutal beatings and I mean wood that left Greek letters leg and back and all over my ass and this was just growing up in the household in the family of all omega's kappas and deltas. So After High School you go on to a university they expect you to see it all through I got saved when I was in high school and I was able to see the light I jumped out of the Catholic religion I was raised in did not rush any houses yet I had my own problems because I was a gang member and denouncing that is difficult and it doesn't change people's minds that have their opinions set but God got me through all of it. I really like with the both of you were doing keep up the good work in faith God bless you in the name of Jesus
I joined a multicultural sorority, while my brother is a Sigma. Just wondering, most Greek organizations encourage academic goals, does Sigma make you go 'inactive' if your grades drop (we have that stipulation, and you have to get grades up to even be listed on roster, etc.). I think you have to find the balance yourself, and with school/line/brother/sister help. The fact you can't participate in activities is a motivator to keep grades up. Also perhaps you could have been a driving Force to encourage the Erasure of secret hazing. So many universities make Greek orgs.attend seminars and denounce hazing so it is not favored. Also confused how you can't be part of an org and practice your faith...we had girls of different faiths, that don't drink, party, careers, ages, etc and you participate in what you like or is for you. But why can you not keep your social group as well as your spiritual group, which could be the same or have a few that believe in same as y'all?
Its graduation season: This weekend, the Zetas are giving my son $1500 AND the Sigma's are giving him $500 - $1000 at separate events on the same day. Anyone know if there is a former members scholarship fund? We'll happily apply.
Nothing was well said in this comment. Lol This was complete sarcasm for former members who have renounced. To answer your question, I have “mental health” scholarships. I’m a psychiatric provider and former AKA. I give free medical services to uninsured and underinsured grade school and college aged children. So yes, we are still service oriented.
ALL PRAISES BE TO THE CREATOR GOD FOR CALLING HIS’ CHILDREN OUT OF BONDAGE WITH THE ADVERSARY THE DEVIL AND FOR ALLOWING THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ADHERING TO THE CALL OF REPENTANCE! MAY THE CREATOR GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU ALL! 🩵🩵
Sigmas motto is “Culture for service and service for humanity.” Go do the Lords work through Sigma and use the shield for good. Sounds like he lost his way in it. GOMAB!
There is only one way and that's Messiah YAHUSHA...this brother is on the right track fasho...all those orgs are satanic... 2 Corin 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
You know...I denounced for a season (5 years) as directed by God. My brothers of Sigma did not denounce me. They encouraged me to seek God and wished me well. They did not come against me. Your experience with God is your experience. If being Greek is not for you...so be it. To me, this is not a testimony, but an attempt to justify your decision. Spend more time focusing on your personal walk with the Lord and stop trying to shame people into thinking they are wrong to walk as they believe. Yall sound holier-than-thou and are not drawing people to Christ with this video. Focus on salvation of the lost. All Greeks are not damned for hell and if you believe that, you are not saved. People can be Greek and saved. Joinging a fraternity or sorority is like joining a specific denomination...you think your way of worship is the best, but as long as we believe in Jesus and confess Him as Lord, we are saved. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God....if you have read this far...beware of people like these, they probably belong to a cultish church. I used to go to a church who hold these beliefs. Stay away, they will attempt to control your life. Don't let man control your thoughts...be led of God! Hypocrites. ..smh
Sounds like it's their truth🙄😒 but In case you have been living under a rock satan is the ruler of this world that mean everything in it schools ,fraternities ,sororities ,mason and churches. The truth is God is in you and the way you decide to live your life for the good not the good and evil.
@@briancoleman9077 Because God released me to rejoin. Prior to receiving Christ as Lord/Savior, I was everything Phi Beta Sigma...it came first in my life. That is why I was told to denounce. It was for good reason. It had become my idol. Once I became educated in scripture and formed a real relationship with God, I understood that my relationship with Him superseded everything else. I no longer idolize my fraternity. This renewed perspective and insight as it relates to my fraternity has shaped the way I interact with it, similar to the way I interact with any other organization I am involved in. God first, family second...work third....all else is prioritized as I see fit.
@@phibeta6ma I agree with you. My daughter just recently crossed and I discussed with her about all these things. I reminded her to be sure to ALWAYS keep God first. Her sorority is a social club that has become a sisterhood for her but she should never become dependent on it because God is the one in control as well as herself. I have witnessed people turn religion into an addiction. I have seen people leave one addiction and go to a new one (religion). Although I don't knock what a person chooses to do, we need to realize that religion has messed many things up for people too. We must be conscious of ourselves and our relationship with God and not allow ANY organization to control us. Thanks for telling us about your journey!
It’s funny, growing up in the church I was pushed towards these types of organizations. It was moving away from the church and religion that helped me gain clarity.
I am a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. and I am speaking only for myself and my comments are my own. Now I will not disparage, disrespect, or even insult this brother; I find it ironic he is doing the very thing his wife accused others of. I vehemently disagree with this brother....Christianity is a way of life and NOT a lifestyle. Because I disagree with you, does not mean I have to mistreat you. Now Brother, I challenge you to act the same instead of disparaging and disrespecting me. Because you included all brothers and I take umbrage, brother. Behavior breeds behavior, and you are also quite loose with your tongue. Now I was not insulting, nor did I insult you. Christianity is a way of life AND NOT a lifestyle!
"Everything ain't for everybody" and it sounds like Sigma (Greek Life) wasn't for you. I am a PROUD member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc! But I'm a faithful, frontline Christian and man of GOD 1st and foremost. I was saved before I pledged, and the two do not clash in my life. GOD, Wife, Family, and then my Frat. In that order; for me. Sorry that you had an unpleasant experience with your pledge process, interaction with the Fraternity, and dissension with your line, but you need to protect yourself so you can protect your family. This is an eye-opening very informative video. I appreciate and applaud you for standing by what you believe in. (BTW my wife is a Zeta too) GOMAB!!!!
It's a lot of folks on here with a reprobate mind. Pleding their life to some stupid letters that will never get then into heaven and they are bragging about it. Smh Lord they know not what they do
What bondage??? My grad chapter only meets once a month and we discuss planning of events that are tied to our three national programs: Social Action, Bigger and Better business, and education. Doesn't sound like bondage to me.
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. is bigger than any one person. You have to be true to yourself and I respect that, but there are far more people who find alignment with their spirituality and fraternity membership. Obviously it isn't the case for you, but I wish you the best and your bride. I have been a member for 20 years at this time and have seen great transformation for the better. Be well.
Bruh your org is just another GOD ... u sing chants ..u literally say the word "praise" "soul" "thee" almighty ect...?? Get woke bro ... and you pay to do it ?
I have no problem with you deciding to denounce the frat, I watch hoping to get an understanding of what lead to your decision. Has the organization ever required you to do anything outside of the will of Yah? Also as far as folks turning away from you once you left, wouldn’t that exact thing happen if you left your current house of worship? Folks gonna be folks
Good morning Brother and Sister. I understand your position and respect both of you. I am a man of God and a Sigma man also. I can only say you have to do what works in your house. I can say that I am not active, I was in a situation before I returned to serving faithfully. I made Sigma my focus . It was all I was about. I learned that there was a lot of hurt on the other side of it. I realized that you can only serve one master. Now I love Sigma for what the founders intended it to be. I jest wish my experience had been different. Maybe it couldn't have been because God needed to get my attention. I have been preaching now roughly 11 years man and I get it. I can honestly say some of what you have felt I feel. Bless you for talking about your experience.
I wonder how Phi Beta Sigma Founder BISHOP Leonard F. Morse, would feel about your so-called revelation. BTW, every night do you thank God for creating Phi Beta Sigma and Zeta Phi Beta as a tool for bringing you together? In closing I pledged in 1991, and has been the Dean of over 20 intake processes. I have NEVER swung wood on anybody. Account for your own actions, and acknowledge that your actions with the organization are your own, and not everyone elses.
1. To reference another person as a source of validity to what God has personally shown someone shows lack of knowledge and wisdom. Bishop, pastor, minister,etc..none of which are perfect in choices and decisions. 2. Every night neither of us are thanking idolatry. We are thanking God. Bc whether these orgs existed or not, God still would have done what He did..which was bring us together. 3. Pledging is still pledging. Whether wood is involved or not. Thanks for sharing your experience but the entire point of this video was specific to the spiritual aspect of the ORGANIZATION. Not the pledging process in itself which is still a portion of it. God is not pleased with idolatry. NPHC = idolatry.
Good sir, i very much so took accountability for my own actions... but i didn't come up with the things i did, i merely made a choice to repeat what i was taught so those actions that "were my own" were also done by others before during and after me but you know this. Let's get real, if you see nothing wrong with the organization and it's practices thats your prerogative but you comment with a tone as if pledging/hazing and unlawful acts are rare in the organization which in actuality its the norm and extremely common. These are facts. If you don't agree with what's being said in the video why take the time to comment. it's not for you. I beseech you, either consider what's being said and adjust accordingly or simply continue on as you are. Don't waste your time on these videos trying to tell us how wrong WE are, it doesn't benefit you.
@@Pastorson08 But yet you waste your time on these videos doing the same? If it wasnt for the attention, you wouldve just left with no fan fare. This is vanity which is also sinful.
You signed a paper that stated you would not break the law and "pledge". You chose to disregard that and had experiences that led you to where you are. It's not for me to judge you, but context is important. Church is a structure very much like Sigma and NPHC. We no more idolize it as Sigma men than you Idolize your church and pastor. What you have found is personal, but I don't think your analysis of the org is valid.
God bless you and thank you for your obedience to the Holy Spirit. Many do not understand that until you come into the knowledge of the truth which is Christ the Messiah and Holy Spirit revealing and convicting you of what the Word of God saids, they will justify and make excuses of anything. Continue to seek first the Kingdom of God and all his righteousness and will continue to fall out of love with world and the beast system.
My ex was phi beta sigma, and though I didn't pledge, he encouraged me to celebrate and sport the clothes he bought me representing this organization. We even had furniture in our home representing phi beta sigma. I felt convicted to renounce my compliance and participation supporting my ex in exalting and worshipping phi beta sigma. Jehovah God I renounce any participation, worship, and support I gave towards phi beta sigma. I pray also for complete deliverance for those deceived by this false god in Jesus Christ name!
So he encouraged you "sport" the clothes be bought you representing the organization??? Meaning you wore clothes with the letters on them?? I smell cap. FOH
U can serve the Lord and be a part of a fraternity . U can do community service -- mentor kids-- go help with the elderly and many other things. Im not the smartest guy but I dont think the Lord has an issue with any of these things .
Phi beta sigma was create, to adjust to"service" in the community, a true follower of Jesus or phi beta sigma, should "support u putting positive service messages and uplifting black men GPA in 2019, lordknows we need good black male productive lawyers and doctors in bringing good service in black communities
mg2930ab Let the Truth be Told that’s how they get you. It’s disguised as a community service organization, but you have initiated yourself into a covenant with Satan by way of the ritual. Any time you enter yourself into a covenant outside of Christ is Satanic. Satan is the master deceiver.
Edward Hightower claiming Jesus and not speaking on major social issues; is working for Satan; Christ spoke his feelings boldly against church leaders and modern day would be politicians, dropping any social organizations, and claiming Christ , the road is harder , Christ did feed his flock for 2 hour a week with wisdom,
It's unfortunate that you feel this way. The history of the Divine 9 is powerful. As a matter of fact, the only way those brothers and sisters could have done the extraordinary things they did, particularly in the early days of their foundation, during systems of deep oppression against blacks, is by the help of God. Unfortunately, your experiences with the fraternity and sorority must have been too much for your religious processes and thinking.
It sounds like you just had a bad experience when you were in undergrad, I think you should have joined a grad chapter after you graduated, there were a lot of things about undergrad life we all don’t like , and being beat or beating on someone else’s child for the sake of tradition is something we all wrestle with, and we had brothers that did not participate, and it was not forced once you were a member , but everyone in my chapter pledged, but it is way more to sigma then pledging , and if a chapter wants to stop all they got to do is not do it anymore , sigma is way more than just undergrad, lets be real , we all are immature and young sometimes that may be the cause of some of the stuff you went through , the chapters can be different but we are suppose to change it, and the eternal life thing in sigma ,( we know when you die none of that matters) is definitely a reach but ima respect how you feel, and also all chapters don’t pledge. I think people feel some type a way because we christians want to call everything we don’t like demonic., we should say secular instead that may help with y’all getting the point across, I personally feel like y’all let those organizations have such a major role in your life ahead of GOD, like how some people worship sports, music , family, schools . etc. More than they go to God or whatever their religion is. I think y’all took the organizations way farther than what it was meant to be, like some other people, but I wish y’all the best. I love my Creator, and I am a follower of Jesus, but I never was a super sigma to the point where I felt my organization was competing with my God , I knew my God( super Christian ) way before I became a Sigma , God bless y’all , hope one day y’all can rethink some things and you can use Sigma and Zeta as an avenue to bring these people that are not Christians but may be in your orgs to Christ . The founders did not mean for these orgs to be like the way they are that may ran you both away . Jesus went into places where the unholy were and taught people about Christ. That is what we are suppose to do as christians here on earth , but sometimes our views and attitudes can turn people away from God
Princeton Jackson I have a few questions. why do these organizations do things in secret? Why don’t they let people who want to join know what’s going to happen to them and what’s expected of them if they choose to join? Withholding information hence keeping secrets is a way these types of organizations keep “tabs” on their members aka blackmail. If what they have is so good and so influential and community based, why keep it to themselves? Jesus/God never withheld secrets to his people and told them everything of what could and would happen to you. See when you truly love and care for someone, you warn them and don’t put them in harms way. I’ve heard a ton of members of these organizations say they give it to the new pledges hard because someone gave it to them hard. In order to get rid of poison, you must kill it from the root. Peace.
@@MsE711 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Thank you. Why is everything a secret like big brother freemasonry? That's what alot of these Black Greek organizations act like. People hate having their wrong doings challenged.
@@MsE711 I know you asked a year ago but I can see that nobody responded so I’ll just answer myself lol. Pledging wasn’t always secretive. It was public until 1990 when it became illegal bc it was tainted by some ppl who did entirely too much. Pledging was always meant to be a right of passage, a bonding experience and a way to let brothers work their way into fraternities. Most bros who pledge, wanna pledge. They don’t wanna just sign up bc they see value in the process. You learn a lot on line about whichever fraternity you join, about character and responsibility, and about yourself and your brothers. Also, you get to prove yourself to your brothers. I can sign up for a frat and say okay ima ride for y’all now that y’all are my brothers, but who would honestly wholeheartedly believe that? I got to prove it to my brothers over the course of some weeks. Pledging shows commitment to the brotherhood that you share w those guys. Now my LBs and I have a bond and love for each other that I wouldn’t trade. But that’s not bc of enduring abuse or some shit. It’s from the comradery of pursuing a common goal together as one. The secretiveness is not of some unspeakable evil that will deter ppl from wanting to join, and for many it’s like a trust fall that brings everyone closer.
I pray God will release them from the bondage they are in under this bishop and they they find the true and living God. Only then they will see the error of their ways as displayed in this video.
Hello you guys, I really need your help I have a friend that joined phi theta kappa about a couple years ago. And now he’s acting different it’s like he’s not the same person when we first met. He be having anger issues, he even sound different. It’s it anything that u can do to help him get out of this????
Thank y'all for this. I'm on a similar path except I plan to go grad. Actually in the process. I'm guilty of the "platform" method thinking I can make a difference helping folks. What do you guys think about the grad chapter process?
Process plays a portion but it's the organization as a whole. Pledging tho is part of the culture of the organization. In being part of whatever fraternity you are a representation of the organization and all that comes with it. Regardless of your personal initiation process, bc technically not all undergrads "pledge". But all in all it's wrong
@@atalahstevenson8799 I figured that also. Thanks a lot for the clarity. You guys really helped me make my decision to not follow through. Literally the hardest decision of my life. Just got off the phone with my potential LB's to let them know. Stand up dudes, we're going to stay in contact. God allows us to cross paths with different people with different walks of life. If there's a genuine connection it's there. Like you guys said an organization can't make that.
@@DemonSlayer_ISTJ wow man that's great! To God be the glory it's a blessing to even be used in this way to have God speak even more clearly to you. God bless you sir I know God is pleased.
Brother came across your testimony on RUclips the purpose of baptism is to be born spirit it's very important Acts chapter 2 verse 38 I pray that you see this and understand you have to be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sin no flesh no blood will enter his kingdom so you must be baptized of spirit in Jesus name who took on your sins baptism is dire the end of God's Kingdom
As a 30 Year Christian, Catholic, Student of the Bible and Historial Scholar of the Original Hebrew Books that make up the Bible, I truly hope that your Christian Walk is with the New Testament and not the Old. Also, the Bible was interpreted by European and Spaniard Scholars who could not translate the entire Hewbrew language. I hate that you two have been mislead in your Christian Walk. Christianity is the religion that teaches Love and Good Deed to all Mankind! The Stories of of the Bible are just that... Stories/Testimonials! These Stories were not of the original people who lived through that time. It was created 100+ years after their death. I agree, the Pledging/Hazing in Organizations should not happen. I also believe in the principles of each Organizations as they were created by Christian Men and Women. May the REAL God (which are the Good Spirits) she’s light on your darkened knowledge of your Christian Walk. Go to Israel, Egypt and Jerusalem (the Country) and learn from the Original.
You people that use Jesus as an excuse to denounce truly sicken me. If whoever brought you in asked you to sell yo soul then they did it wrong. Learn to read and listen before you just agree to whatever
MAN & WOMAN OF WHAT A GREAT TESTIMONY OF THE REDEEMING POWER OF; most of all that THE LOVE OF GOD HE HAVE FOR HIS CREATION, " WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS GOD GAVE....HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" WOW WHAT A WONDERFUL GOD, LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER; BEING BAPTIZED IS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN, at the time of this video. SEE BELOW THESE SCRIPTURE Romans 6:4“Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.” Acts 2:38“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 22:16“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.” Galatians 3:27“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.” Mark 16:16“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” My desire would be that you have went deeper, essence, the principalities, the rituals covenants tying you to demons, evil soul ties,; maybe one day you will expose the SYSTEM, DEMONIC RITUALS... I think you guys are really still tied emotionally to these people... ❤
I've heard about greeks barely graduating. (Graduating with 2.0-2.5) and struggling with their GPA. Tuition is too much for that! 33 hazers/butt hurt ppl disliked this video
This was so wonderful to listen to. My ex husband who was suppose to be saved joined the sigmas and from what I understand is in it deep. He is so deep in the world now that it makes no sense. It’s unfortunate that he has forgotten everything he was taught while we were serving the Lord together. The devil is busy and he was an easy target! Be blessed.
Praise God for your testimony! When you take a giant step back and look at where Blacks have come from: God delivered us from Africa- the birthplace of voodoo, through a hard pathway of slavery where we had to find the living God to survive that. Each one of us who are American Descendants of Slavery, are living miracles! Our ancestors prayed us forward and we stand free and blessed and what do we do? We entangle ourselves in bondage by joining these stupid greek letter organizations. Thank you for you light. So many of our people are hellbound and lost. Shameful!
It wasn't about them, it was about what God & what he has purposed for you & your life. (I stopped watching the video after the kitchen conversation)....God bless!
Feel if want to Denounce membership do it but Sigma for life and church is even more demon all around churches wish you best stop and just do whatever make happy p
So because you got hazed, and nobody got you, a grown man who got yourself into jail (It was just some tickets, nothing crazy), out of jail, you denounced your letters? It's very easy to say, white Jesus is the reason. You knew you were going to get hazed, the moment you got hazed, you should have dropped, saved your money and your time. You talk about them not being brothers to you, but then you turn around and leave them. Are you now that help to someone that you saught from the fraternity??? I need to get on here and say because white Jesus and get some followers...
Is everyone of God? Serious inquiry. Especially, with and amongst the whole "only one-hundred-and-forty-four thousand [will be anointed enough to make it to the special place with God and Jesus Christ]," what does that mean for how the rest of "us," or "them," should live their/our lives? Do our/their good deeds still count as the 'goodness of God,' within/from God's eyes? Is the good 'they' do, just as "right," as when 'good' is done by the Anointed ones?... Also, I also wonder about all the bad that is done in the name of Jesus Christ and God, and how that can be so widely disregarded amongst the faith-based communities, all in the spirit of preserving the stereotype of 'helpfulness' that God/Jesus Christ are. Should these GLO's, even with THEIR stereotype of being 'good for people, but #still do some bad [when zero-ing in on some aspects],' should these orgs get the same breaks or be cut the same slack, as the -- organizings -- associated with, or OF, Jesus Christ/God?...But, chea.
A tad immature. In all things there should be balance. The young man appears to have been hurt. Wishing both the best. Sounds like a lot like words from someone who is just finding spirituality and making their way. In about 5-10 years they will find the balance. Don't blame an organization. We are all accountable for our own actions. Phi Beta Sigma didn't lead you away from God. YOU drifted from God. Know thyself. Sounds like they may be looking to start a Church using anti-Greek lettered organization as the hook.
Michael Tucker Very good question. I knew God quite well before I pledged. I was saved at the age of 14 and grew up in a spiritual Christian household.
Repent! Jesus will come back, let go of your idols. These organizations are made up of people seeking approval/validation. Your identity & acceptance is in christ. Turn from false gods
@@TheXanthus1 Repent! Jesus will come back, let go of your idols. These organizations are made up of people seeking approval/validation. Your identity & acceptance is in christ. Turn from false gods. None of these organizations will matter in heaven
God Family Frat/Sorority If you don't put those things in that order, you don't need to be in an NPHC org. There are many pastors, ministers, bishops that are in these organizations, are they demonic too?
@@2debonair1914 don't confuse the organization as being demonic as us saying people are demonic bc that's not the case. There are demonic influences in many things that we can be involved in. Just because there are pastors and other people involved in the church who are part of these orgs doesn't make it right. Soul tie is still a strong thing even for some who stand before the church
If Jesus walked through the door...would he be pleased!?...That was gooooood! Praise God! #Exdelta
#Exkappa
Tokunbo Ashorobi with my chapter yes he would.
@@trin3516 what's your fraternity/sorority
The Artist Zeta Phi Beta
All Greek organizations are characterized by Pride, vanity and Idolotry which God hates. Read Proverbs Chapt 6.
The negative comments on this video somewhat proves what you say about people taking denouncement personally. Stay blessed, folks ✊🏾
It’s not that people are taking it personally it that they’re trying to put things in people minds that aren’t true. I personally know a lot of god fearing people in Greek organizations. And the fact that they’re blaming Greek life for the things they did is wrong. They chose to make those choices and they need to be accountable for the actions that they made.
They have established soul ties to these organizations and they don't even recognize the idolatry they are in. A lot of these people have whole shrines to these organizations in their homes and see nothing wrong with it. I can guarantee you'll never see a shrine of Jesus in their homes though. I do want to say you might want to remove that zodiac sign from your name though because that's not of God either
Shar Jones ma’am. Just because they have a blue and white dove, or a pink and green ivy leaf in their house doesn’t make it a shrine. Yes some Greeks have pic of their undergrad or grad Greek like experience but it doesn’t make it a shrine. Y’all are literally in a box because I personally know people in NPHC Greek like and they are men/women of God. And the main thing that bothers me is they the blame the organization on what the did in their chapter. Their org didn’t make them drink, party or participate in other festivities. They chose to do that stuff.
@@trin3516 ma'am let me leave you with some food for though. This is all in love
“The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?
Jeremiah 17:9 NLT
But most of all, my brothers and sisters, never take an oath, by heaven or earth or anything else. Just say a simple yes or no, so that you will not sin and be condemned.
James 5:12 NLT
But I say, do not make any vows! Do not say, ‘By heaven!’ because heaven is God’s throne. And do not say, ‘By the earth!’ because the earth is his footstool. And do not say, ‘By Jerusalem!’ for Jerusalem is the city of the great King. Do not even say, ‘By my head!’ for you can’t turn one hair white or black. Just say a simple, ‘Yes, I will,’ or ‘No, I won’t.’ Anything beyond this is from the evil one.
Matthew 5:34-37 NLT
But we belong to God, and those who know God listen to us. If they do not belong to God, they do not listen to us. That is how we know if someone has the Spirit of truth or the spirit of deception.
1 John 4:6 NLT
Shar Jones I understand what your saying. But then blaming the org they joined for their behavior is bs. No one made them join a Greek life org and no one made them do anything like I’ve mentioned before. If they are that weak minded to be a follower than that’s on them. If people were going out drinking, they should have said no if that wasn’t them. They need to take responsibility for the actions that they did. They need to stop blaming others for their weak minded actions.
Excellent video 👏🏾 very thorough. thank you for having the courage to put this out.
I am sooo proud of you two!!! I felt like I needed to encourage you two. Keep going... Keep telling your story. I know it's hard, but y'all helping people out here. God bless your marriage and your message. I can't wait to see what God does thru you.
Hello,
I must admit that I only had the opportunity to watch the first 15-minutes of this video. With that said, I wish you the best on your journey towards having a better and positive relationship with God.
Man can't get you into Heaven but the Word of God.
When get Heaven holla at PHI BETA SIGMA TILL DAY I DIE ALWAYS BLUE PHI
And salute to you checking dude on that analogy. And yes we wrestle against principles and moralities
Amen...Keep doing what you're doing for the Lord, God bless you two!!!🙏🙏🙏
So like I am a Christian and I was planning on joining an organization when I transfer to a four year. Thank you for sharing this, I've learned something from this. I would still like to talk to you guys about it
Wow. I can't believe they compared that to Jesus being beat. Smh
Nastassia_Caldwell ikr
Great video!! I took the same journey recently.
How was your journey if you don't mind sharing a bit? I'm at a crossroads of grad intake process
Good not for everyine BLUE PHI TILL I DIE for life and then OMEGA CHAPTER
@@tommygarner2895 go to hell
I appreciate hearing such a depth of Biblical knowledge from this young couple. I praise the Lord for your example and your willingness to do hard things.
Amen!
I have been a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. and pledged undergraduate. Hazing for my chapter stopped before I even arrived on campus and has not been a part of our pledge process. I attended a very prestigious institution and while other organizations did haze, we did not. As you may or may not know, all of the Divine 9 as part of the NPHC denounced and put processes in place to do the same. I’m sorry that you have felt that your experience has led you to believe that you did not feel that you can work for the organization and serve God. Good luck to you.
The hazing is to break down a person like in the military or a gang, but do the Divine 9 say prayers, sing hymns, worship and/or adore Greek gods and goddesses? If so, this is idolatry and pagan worship which the Most High God says to not put any idols before him or in His presence. This is the biggest problem. Then these orgs are called "Divine" which is only set apart for Jehovah. He does not share his glory.
Tip Of the Day much agreed
What??? Lmao these comments are hilarious
Hello, I am not a member of any organization but my daughter is in one and there are some things that you have said that would've had me concerned as a mother. I expressed to my daughter that she should never allow an organization to control her life. It seems as if you allowed the greek life to control you. Refusing to wear certain colors? Failed classes? If I was your parent, I would've told you to fall back until you gain control. We all have to do what we need to do to be happy and if you are now truly happy, is all that matters. You seem to be a very passionate person in whatever you do so please make sure to remember that people can turn almost anything in to an addiction including organizations (Greek, Social, Religion, etc..) and that you must make sure you know yourself and maintain control over everything you do and not get caught up where you lose focus from the big picture. I wish you much luck in life and hope you continue to be happy. God bless!
Listen to the spiritual aspect not the natural
I denounced Phi Beta Sigma myself Holy Spirit spoke to me on several occasions not to do the brother greeting ever again because he said every time I was shaking hands I was strengthening the covenant and the only covenant we should be in is with Christ through his blood. Keep pressing through blessings on you and your wife. Forcefully Advancing the Kingdom of God Apostle Shawn T Jackson.
God bless you, Bro. and Sis. Stephenson. Continue to fight the good fight of faith. I renounced my membership in July of 2019. I, too, am committed to seeing men and women loosed from the bonds of secret societies, be it freemasonry, fraternities, sororities or something else. Who the Son sets free, is free INDEED (John 8:36)! To God and His Son Jesus Christ alone be all glory, honor and praise.
I pledged Zeta on December 1, 1972 at a Black University and I came out in 1981 because I became a minister of the Gospel. I denounced because Jesus is the light of my life and my everything. I read the comment about the Sigma' founder being a bishop and I wondered what that bishop would think of all the profanity you use at your shows and what would that Sigma would think of you grabbing your crouch while performing on line. I was appalled when I saw and heard them. Whenever I go to my home town where the university is located former sorors want to get together and introduce me to the sorors at the University because everyone thinks that I did great things with the sorority, but I have to say no because "thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee. Linda
You been out of Zeta for 41 years
Every Brother is not a brother. If it is not for you fine. But I will always be there for my Brothers. Your first mistake is comparing a fraternity to the gospel of any religion. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. Good luck on your continued journey.
If these people trust and live for the real truth God this world instead of these organizations the world would be a better place instead of where it's at right now!
I will give them a heart to know me, I am the Lord, I will be their God and they shall return ton me with their whole heart.
Praise the Lord! Thou shall worship the Lord thy God, him only shalt thou serve. Thanks for your testimony and continue to follow Christ.
Amen!
Praise God for you speaking this truth!
I pledged Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity INC. Spr ‘07. I will never denounce my brotherhood. I respect that you wrestled with your issues and other logistics of life however don’t blame the shield. You battled just as we all do but you made the choice that was best for YOU. Don’t spread falsehoods about the organization. I could actually digg and shine a bright light on some key issues. As long as you’re in an earthly shell you and me both we will all be imperfect. Good luck with your walk and God bless.
It’s crazy how people get saved and become super holy and super spiritual and all of a sudden they get these prophetic revelations. I’m not perfect. I don’t claim to be. There was a point when I was preaching every Thursday and every Sunday HOWEVER I fell on my own when I lost my dad. I left the ministry and the church for my own selfish reasons. A frat who was younger but was also my big brother in ministry came down from his mountain experience to get me out of my valley experience. The frat has nothing to do with your personal shortcomings and now you want the to take the fall for the reason your reforming. You’re calling the frat a cult. During your sacred ritual didn’t they read a bible verse that told you “BEHOLD HOW GOOD AND PLEASANT IT IS TO DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY”. This is so wrong but I CANNOT cast judgement and but I can say whoever’s or whatever church you joined to lead you to this, the doctrine that you are spreading, it sounds like a “CULT”
Hello Frat. I pledged Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. in SPR. 99 at Northwestern State University of Louisiana, Zeta Iota Chapter. DEUCE CLUB!
WILLIE FRANCIS what’s good MAB!!! This video was crazy for me to watch. I think people don’t know how to separate the two. She made mention of how once you get saved Christ becomes a part of you. That’s not true. Christ is apart of you once you leave the womb. The holy scripture says “if any man be in Christ he is a new creature OLD things have passed away!” The scripture is iterating that Christ is putting you on a spiritual assignment to give birth to your greatness. These two were meant for one another because the logic in this was ludicrous.
My God of truth and love is known for changing his ppl life around. Many people are called but only a few will hear. He has nothing to hide!
James Davis that’s a misinterpretation of scripture. Jesus spoke about new birth and explained it to Nicodemus.
@@JamesDavis-uq7lv WOW! Is that how you interpret scripture?
Great video. I'm a Zeta and I used to follow you both on Twitter. I loved seeing the change in both of you. Amazing stuff. Takes a lot of courage and you both are doing it openly and without fear. Great stuff
Hello. I understand that your a zeta. My wife is a zeta and she just got back from Greece I need to know the truth about what goes on because I'm seriously thinking of filing for divorce because I can't be with someone who goes against my heavenly father
tom Waters man said filing for divorce because she a zeta yoo
God is with them.
@@jahmarlindo851 ppl are weak minded it's scary
Charlton Harris that’s a little excessive
Sigma Offered You Eternal Life? Where In The Ritual Was That?
The point that there's a ritual... lol means it's not OF GOD
@@theartist6764 getting up washing your body brushing yoir teeth is a ritual as well. Does that make it "Not Of God"? We can argue semantics all day.
@@briancoleman9077 that's not semantics that's sardonic lol I see u never took a debate course. Look that's repetition ..and not contradictory to your RELIGION? There no GREEK IDOLS referenced to your toothpaste lol smh. Look I know you paid a lot of money over the years and said/pledged a lot of "iffy" subjects? Just for a moment.. pretend you're not in the frat and you're just a *Interest .. and you're pastor is right beside you... and he follows alongside with you through the whole process.. (with your references to idols, Greek gods, pledging your soul) do you think if HE, not you had the choice to drop you from the line on the basis of it being totally in Line with Gods word or God itself.. do you think you would still be "made" 🤔
@@theartist6764 I'm not tripping. I do noy care. You responded to my thoughts. You think however you like. You most Certainly can't or won't change mine. BLUE FOR LIFE! Best Of Luck.
@@briancoleman9077lol better not. I literally grew up in this Greek ishh. I know too damn much about the D9 ..too much, as a kid-now. And I didn't even have a choice not to know it. But that's the reason I chose not to go that route. This (greek) is only gonna be here on earth, and I chose not to sacrifice or tarnish my soul just for some earthly letters. But everybody has there own path they take. I'm just happy to see all these denouncing videos catching on. But I'm not judging you bro, everybody has there own path its kool
I never heard anybody say what you said from that perspective but understand this some people grew up with fraternity and sorority members around them all their lives and the expectation is there it's like you're in line from the jump. I have caught brutal beatings and I mean wood that left Greek letters leg and back and all over my ass and this was just growing up in the household in the family of all omega's kappas and deltas. So After High School you go on to a university they expect you to see it all through I got saved when I was in high school and I was able to see the light I jumped out of the Catholic religion I was raised in did not rush any houses yet I had my own problems because I was a gang member and denouncing that is difficult and it doesn't change people's minds that have their opinions set but God got me through all of it. I really like with the both of you were doing keep up the good work in faith God bless you in the name of Jesus
Thank you for what you shared also.
You are now a GBI - GOD BLESSED INDIVIDUAL
I joined a multicultural sorority, while my brother is a Sigma. Just wondering, most Greek organizations encourage academic goals, does Sigma make you go 'inactive' if your grades drop (we have that stipulation, and you have to get grades up to even be listed on roster, etc.). I think you have to find the balance yourself, and with school/line/brother/sister help. The fact you can't participate in activities is a motivator to keep grades up. Also perhaps you could have been a driving Force to encourage the Erasure of secret hazing. So many universities make Greek orgs.attend seminars and denounce hazing so it is not favored. Also confused how you can't be part of an org and practice your faith...we had girls of different faiths, that don't drink, party, careers, ages, etc and you participate in what you like or is for you. But why can you not keep your social group as well as your spiritual group, which could be the same or have a few that believe in same as y'all?
Its graduation season: This weekend, the Zetas are giving my son $1500 AND the Sigma's are giving him $500 - $1000 at separate events on the same day. Anyone know if there is a former members scholarship fund? We'll happily apply.
Well said.
Nothing was well said in this comment. Lol This was complete sarcasm for former members who have renounced. To answer your question, I have “mental health” scholarships. I’m a psychiatric provider and former AKA. I give free medical services to uninsured and underinsured grade school and college aged children. So yes, we are still service oriented.
ALL PRAISES BE TO THE CREATOR GOD FOR CALLING HIS’ CHILDREN OUT OF BONDAGE WITH THE ADVERSARY THE DEVIL AND FOR ALLOWING THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ADHERING TO THE CALL OF REPENTANCE! MAY THE CREATOR GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU ALL! 🩵🩵
ALL PRAISE GOES TO THE MOST HIGH !!!
Sigmas motto is “Culture for service and service for humanity.” Go do the Lords work through Sigma and use the shield for good. Sounds like he lost his way in it. GOMAB!
Sounds like he found the right way, I am heading out too.
There is only one way and that's Messiah YAHUSHA...this brother is on the right track fasho...all those orgs are satanic...
2 Corin 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Amen, thank you both!
You know...I denounced for a season (5 years) as directed by God. My brothers of Sigma did not denounce me. They encouraged me to seek God and wished me well. They did not come against me. Your experience with God is your experience. If being Greek is not for you...so be it. To me, this is not a testimony, but an attempt to justify your decision. Spend more time focusing on your personal walk with the Lord and stop trying to shame people into thinking they are wrong to walk as they believe. Yall sound holier-than-thou and are not drawing people to Christ with this video. Focus on salvation of the lost. All Greeks are not damned for hell and if you believe that, you are not saved. People can be Greek and saved.
Joinging a fraternity or sorority is like joining a specific denomination...you think your way of worship is the best, but as long as we believe in Jesus and confess Him as Lord, we are saved. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God....if you have read this far...beware of people like these, they probably belong to a cultish church. I used to go to a church who hold these beliefs. Stay away, they will attempt to control your life. Don't let man control your thoughts...be led of God! Hypocrites. ..smh
Well said brother 🤘🏾
Sounds like it's their truth🙄😒 but In case you have been living under a rock satan is the ruler of this world that mean everything in it schools ,fraternities ,sororities ,mason and churches. The truth is God is in you and the way you decide to live your life for the good not the good and evil.
Then why are you still promoting Sigma?
@@briancoleman9077 Because God released me to rejoin. Prior to receiving Christ as Lord/Savior, I was everything Phi Beta Sigma...it came first in my life. That is why I was told to denounce. It was for good reason. It had become my idol. Once I became educated in scripture and formed a real relationship with God, I understood that my relationship with Him superseded everything else. I no longer idolize my fraternity. This renewed perspective and insight as it relates to my fraternity has shaped the way I interact with it, similar to the way I interact with any other organization I am involved in. God first, family second...work third....all else is prioritized as I see fit.
@@phibeta6ma I agree with you. My daughter just recently crossed and I discussed with her about all these things. I reminded her to be sure to ALWAYS keep God first. Her sorority is a social club that has become a sisterhood for her but she should never become dependent on it because God is the one in control as well as herself. I have witnessed people turn religion into an addiction. I have seen people leave one addiction and go to a new one (religion). Although I don't knock what a person chooses to do, we need to realize that religion has messed many things up for people too. We must be conscious of ourselves and our relationship with God and not allow ANY organization to control us. Thanks for telling us about your journey!
Ready for the next video 👓
It’s funny, growing up in the church I was pushed towards these types of organizations. It was moving away from the church and religion that helped me gain clarity.
I am a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. and I am speaking only for myself and my comments are my own. Now I will not disparage, disrespect, or even insult this brother; I find it ironic he is doing the very thing his wife accused others of. I vehemently disagree with this brother....Christianity is a way of life and NOT a lifestyle.
Because I disagree with you, does not mean I have to mistreat you. Now Brother, I challenge you to act the same instead of disparaging and disrespecting me. Because you included all brothers and I take umbrage, brother. Behavior breeds behavior, and you are also quite loose with your tongue. Now I was not insulting, nor did I insult you.
Christianity is a way of life AND NOT a lifestyle!
Thanks for sharing this was so helpful!!!!
"Everything ain't for everybody" and it sounds like Sigma (Greek Life) wasn't for you. I am a PROUD member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc! But I'm a faithful, frontline Christian and man of GOD 1st and foremost. I was saved before I pledged, and the two do not clash in my life. GOD, Wife, Family, and then my Frat. In that order; for me. Sorry that you had an unpleasant experience with your pledge process, interaction with the Fraternity, and dissension with your line, but you need to protect yourself so you can protect your family. This is an eye-opening very informative video. I appreciate and applaud you for standing by what you believe in. (BTW my wife is a Zeta too) GOMAB!!!!
They shouldnt pay your tickets dummy! Stop making something out of nothing. Thats not their responsibility. A brother wouldve told you stop speeding.
It's a lot of folks on here with a reprobate mind. Pleding their life to some stupid letters that will never get then into heaven and they are bragging about it. Smh Lord they know not what they do
I wish I could do the same…. If only I had your courage. Great job for being free from the bondage.
What bondage
The Holy Spirit gives you courage
What bondage??? My grad chapter only meets once a month and we discuss planning of events that are tied to our three national programs: Social Action, Bigger and Better business, and education. Doesn't sound like bondage to me.
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. is bigger than any one person. You have to be true to yourself and I respect that, but there are far more people who find alignment with their spirituality and fraternity membership. Obviously it isn't the case for you, but I wish you the best and your bride. I have been a member for 20 years at this time and have seen great transformation for the better. Be well.
you just old. You've gotten all reasonable in your old age.
#WELLSTATED!!! #FALL98STYLE!!!! #SALUTE!!!! #BLUMETALJACKET!!!!
Bruh your org is just another GOD ... u sing chants ..u literally say the word "praise" "soul" "thee" almighty ect...?? Get woke bro ... and you pay to do it ?
I respectfully disagree.
Much respect thank you for your courage
I have no problem with you deciding to denounce the frat, I watch hoping to get an understanding of what lead to your decision. Has the organization ever required you to do anything outside of the will of Yah? Also as far as folks turning away from you once you left, wouldn’t that exact thing happen if you left your current house of worship? Folks gonna be folks
Hell nah lol
Good morning Brother and Sister. I understand your position and respect both of you. I am a man of God and a Sigma man also. I can only say you have to do what works in your house. I can say that I am not active, I was in a situation before I returned to serving faithfully. I made Sigma my focus . It was all I was about. I learned that there was a lot of hurt on the other side of it. I realized that you can only serve one master. Now I love Sigma for what the founders intended it to be. I jest wish my experience had been different. Maybe it couldn't have been because God needed to get my attention. I have been preaching now roughly 11 years man and I get it. I can honestly say some of what you have felt I feel. Bless you for talking about your experience.
You can do whatever you like. Free Will
I respect your decision. I also respect Sigma. Stay blessed.
Your G.P.A dropped because of you don't blame the frat
I wonder how Phi Beta Sigma Founder BISHOP Leonard F. Morse, would feel about your so-called revelation. BTW, every night do you thank God for creating Phi Beta Sigma and Zeta Phi Beta as a tool for bringing you together? In closing I pledged in 1991, and has been the Dean of over 20 intake processes. I have NEVER swung wood on anybody. Account for your own actions, and acknowledge that your actions with the organization are your own, and not everyone elses.
1. To reference another person as a source of validity to what God has personally shown someone shows lack of knowledge and wisdom. Bishop, pastor, minister,etc..none of which are perfect in choices and decisions.
2. Every night neither of us are thanking idolatry. We are thanking God. Bc whether these orgs existed or not, God still would have done what He did..which was bring us together.
3. Pledging is still pledging. Whether wood is involved or not. Thanks for sharing your experience but the entire point of this video was specific to the spiritual aspect of the ORGANIZATION. Not the pledging process in itself which is still a portion of it.
God is not pleased with idolatry. NPHC = idolatry.
Good sir, i very much so took accountability for my own actions... but i didn't come up with the things i did, i merely made a choice to repeat what i was taught so those actions that "were my own" were also done by others before during and after me but you know this. Let's get real, if you see nothing wrong with the organization and it's practices thats your prerogative but you comment with a tone as if pledging/hazing and unlawful acts are rare in the organization which in actuality its the norm and extremely common. These are facts. If you don't agree with what's being said in the video why take the time to comment. it's not for you. I beseech you, either consider what's being said and adjust accordingly or simply continue on as you are. Don't waste your time on these videos trying to tell us how wrong WE are, it doesn't benefit you.
@@Pastorson08 But yet you waste your time on these videos doing the same? If it wasnt for the attention, you wouldve just left with no fan fare. This is vanity which is also sinful.
You signed a paper that stated you would not break the law and "pledge". You chose to disregard that and had experiences that led you to where you are. It's not for me to judge you, but context is important. Church is a structure very much like Sigma and NPHC. We no more idolize it as Sigma men than you Idolize your church and pastor. What you have found is personal, but I don't think your analysis of the org is valid.
Atalah Stevenson I mean that is his choice. PBS as always practiced making the black community stronger.
God bless you and thank you for your obedience to the Holy Spirit. Many do not understand that until you come into the knowledge of the truth which is Christ the Messiah and Holy Spirit revealing and convicting you of what the Word of God saids, they will justify and make excuses of anything. Continue to seek first the Kingdom of God and all his righteousness and will continue to fall out of love with world and the beast system.
My ex was phi beta sigma, and though I didn't pledge, he encouraged me to celebrate and sport the clothes he bought me representing this organization. We even had furniture in our home representing phi beta sigma. I felt convicted to renounce my compliance and participation supporting my ex in exalting and worshipping phi beta sigma. Jehovah God I renounce any participation, worship, and support I gave towards phi beta sigma. I pray also for complete deliverance for those deceived by this false god in Jesus Christ name!
So he encouraged you "sport" the clothes be bought you representing the organization??? Meaning you wore clothes with the letters on them?? I smell cap. FOH
May God bless you on your path.
U can serve the Lord and be a part of a fraternity . U can do community service -- mentor kids-- go help with the elderly and many other things. Im not the smartest guy but I dont think the Lord has an issue with any of these things .
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Keep on making these❤️
I saw the initiation ritual on google; is that real or cap?? If so, that's crazy what they make you say..
Teach us....
Phi beta sigma was create, to adjust to"service" in the community, a true follower of Jesus or phi beta sigma, should "support u putting positive service messages and uplifting black men GPA in 2019, lordknows we need good black male productive lawyers and doctors in bringing good service in black communities
mg2930ab Let the Truth be Told that’s how they get you. It’s disguised as a community service organization, but you have initiated yourself into a covenant with Satan by way of the ritual. Any time you enter yourself into a covenant outside of Christ is Satanic. Satan is the master deceiver.
Edward Hightower claiming Jesus and not speaking on major social issues; is working for Satan; Christ spoke his feelings boldly against church leaders and modern day would be politicians, dropping any social organizations, and claiming Christ , the road is harder , Christ did feed his flock for 2 hour a week with wisdom,
It's unfortunate that you feel this way. The history of the Divine 9 is powerful. As a matter of fact, the only way those brothers and sisters could have done the extraordinary things they did, particularly in the early days of their foundation, during systems of deep oppression against blacks, is by the help of God. Unfortunately, your experiences with the fraternity and sorority must have been too much for your religious processes and thinking.
Why didn’t u speak on the hazing part
I enjoyed y’all’s video. GREAT content... but PLEASE control the background noise. It’s too much going on towards the end
It sounds like you just had a bad experience when you were in undergrad, I think you should have joined a grad chapter after you graduated, there were a lot of things about undergrad life we all don’t like , and being beat or beating on someone else’s child for the sake of tradition is something we all wrestle with, and we had brothers that did not participate, and it was not forced once you were a member , but everyone in my chapter pledged, but it is way more to sigma then pledging , and if a chapter wants to stop all they got to do is not do it anymore , sigma is way more than just undergrad, lets be real , we all are immature and young sometimes that may be the cause of some of the stuff you went through , the chapters can be different but we are suppose to change it, and the eternal life thing in sigma ,( we know when you die none of that matters) is definitely a reach but ima respect how you feel, and also all chapters don’t pledge. I think people feel some type a way because we christians want to call everything we don’t like demonic., we should say secular instead that may help with y’all getting the point across, I personally feel like y’all let those organizations have such a major role in your life ahead of GOD, like how some people worship sports, music , family, schools . etc. More than they go to God or whatever their religion is. I think y’all took the organizations way farther than what it was meant to be, like some other people, but I wish y’all the best. I love my Creator, and I am a follower of Jesus, but I never was a super sigma to the point where I felt my organization was competing with my God , I knew my God( super Christian ) way before I became a Sigma , God bless y’all , hope one day y’all can rethink some things and you can use Sigma and Zeta as an avenue to bring these people that are not Christians but may be in your orgs to Christ . The founders did not mean for these orgs to be like the way they are that may ran you both away . Jesus went into places where the unholy were and taught people about Christ. That is what we are suppose to do as christians here on earth , but sometimes our views and attitudes can turn people away from God
This is the best comment that I've seen on this video. Thank you for this!
Princeton Jackson I have a few questions. why do these organizations do things in secret? Why don’t they let people who want to join know what’s going to happen to them and what’s expected of them if they choose to join? Withholding information hence keeping secrets is a way these types of organizations keep “tabs” on their members aka blackmail. If what they have is so good and so influential and community based, why keep it to themselves? Jesus/God never withheld secrets to his people and told them everything of what could and would happen to you. See when you truly love and care for someone, you warn them and don’t put them in harms way. I’ve heard a ton of members of these organizations say they give it to the new pledges hard because someone gave it to them hard. In order to get rid of poison, you must kill it from the root. Peace.
@@MsE711 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Thank you. Why is everything a secret like big brother freemasonry? That's what alot of these Black Greek organizations act like. People hate having their wrong doings challenged.
@ Princeton Jackson,Bruh, That was Well Put!!! G.O.M.A.B. 💯💪🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
@@MsE711 I know you asked a year ago but I can see that nobody responded so I’ll just answer myself lol. Pledging wasn’t always secretive. It was public until 1990 when it became illegal
bc it was tainted by some ppl who did entirely too much. Pledging was always meant to be a right of passage, a bonding experience and a way to let brothers work their way into fraternities. Most bros who pledge, wanna pledge. They don’t wanna just sign up bc they see value in the process. You learn a lot on line about whichever fraternity you join, about character and responsibility, and about yourself and your brothers. Also, you get to prove yourself to your brothers. I can sign up for a frat and say okay ima ride for y’all now that y’all are my brothers, but who would honestly wholeheartedly believe that? I got to prove it to my brothers over the course of some weeks. Pledging shows commitment to the brotherhood that you share w those guys. Now my LBs and I have a bond and love for each other that I wouldn’t trade. But that’s not bc of enduring abuse or some shit. It’s from the comradery of pursuing a common goal together as one.
The secretiveness is not of some unspeakable evil that will deter ppl from wanting to join, and for many it’s like a trust fall that brings everyone closer.
I pray God will release them from the bondage they are in under this bishop and they they find the true and living God. Only then they will see the error of their ways as displayed in this video.
Did Sigma and Zeta bring you both together?
God did
Lol If YOU made the frat such a big part of YOUR life that YOU had to denounce to live it that's sad! Lol
Hello you guys, I really need your help I have a friend that joined phi theta kappa about a couple years ago. And now he’s acting different it’s like he’s not the same person when we first met. He be having anger issues, he even sound different. It’s it anything that u can do to help him get out of this????
He has to want to come out.
Thank y'all for this. I'm on a similar path except I plan to go grad. Actually in the process. I'm guilty of the "platform" method thinking I can make a difference helping folks.
What do you guys think about the grad chapter process?
Process plays a portion but it's the organization as a whole. Pledging tho is part of the culture of the organization. In being part of whatever fraternity you are a representation of the organization and all that comes with it. Regardless of your personal initiation process, bc technically not all undergrads "pledge". But all in all it's wrong
@@atalahstevenson8799 I figured that also. Thanks a lot for the clarity. You guys really helped me make my decision to not follow through. Literally the hardest decision of my life. Just got off the phone with my potential LB's to let them know. Stand up dudes, we're going to stay in contact. God allows us to cross paths with different people with different walks of life. If there's a genuine connection it's there. Like you guys said an organization can't make that.
@@DemonSlayer_ISTJ wow man that's great! To God be the glory it's a blessing to even be used in this way to have God speak even more clearly to you. God bless you sir I know God is pleased.
@@atalahstevenson8799 thanks a lot I appreciate that. Most definitely. God bless y'all also. God be the glory.
Brother came across your testimony on RUclips the purpose of baptism is to be born spirit it's very important Acts chapter 2 verse 38 I pray that you see this and understand you have to be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sin no flesh no blood will enter his kingdom so you must be baptized of spirit in Jesus name who took on your sins baptism is dire the end of God's Kingdom
The intro shows what your issue really is.
Lord bless that crying baby
Don’t blame Sigma for your grades dropping... That’s all YOU
Hey! Hope all is well! Is it okay if John can contact me. Umm you can message me privately for my number and I would greatly appreciate it! ☺️
Hi! So yes he definitely can. But I have no idea how to message privately 🤷🏾♀️
John Stevenson Jr I’m at work but ima got you up big bro! We gotta chop it up!
Kay I'm going to delete his number now lol
Atalah Stevenson yes please do. There are crazy people online who come to seek and destroy the people of God.
As a 30 Year Christian, Catholic, Student of the Bible and Historial Scholar of the Original Hebrew Books that make up the Bible, I truly hope that your Christian Walk is with the New Testament and not the Old. Also, the Bible was interpreted by European and Spaniard Scholars who could not translate the entire Hewbrew language. I hate that you two have been mislead in your Christian Walk.
Christianity is the religion that teaches Love and Good Deed to all Mankind! The Stories of of the Bible are just that... Stories/Testimonials! These Stories were not of the original people who lived through that time. It was created 100+ years after their death. I agree, the Pledging/Hazing in Organizations should not happen. I also believe in the principles of each Organizations as they were created by Christian Men and Women. May the REAL God (which are the Good Spirits) she’s light on your darkened knowledge of your Christian Walk. Go to Israel, Egypt and Jerusalem (the Country) and learn from the Original.
I discovered the Orthodox church...the church you speak of founded in 1054 by Christ himself
You people that use Jesus as an excuse to denounce truly sicken me. If whoever brought you in asked you to sell yo soul then they did it wrong. Learn to read and listen before you just agree to whatever
Value of character!!!!! GOMAB!!!!
MAN & WOMAN OF WHAT A GREAT TESTIMONY OF THE REDEEMING POWER OF; most of all that THE LOVE OF GOD HE HAVE FOR HIS CREATION, " WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS GOD GAVE....HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" WOW WHAT A WONDERFUL GOD, LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER; BEING BAPTIZED IS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN, at the time of this video.
SEE BELOW THESE SCRIPTURE
Romans 6:4“Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Acts 2:38“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 22:16“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.”
Galatians 3:27“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Mark 16:16“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
My desire would be that you have went deeper, essence, the principalities, the rituals covenants tying you to demons, evil soul ties,; maybe one day you will expose the SYSTEM, DEMONIC RITUALS...
I think you guys are really still tied emotionally to these people...
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I've heard about greeks barely graduating. (Graduating with 2.0-2.5) and struggling with their GPA. Tuition is too much for that! 33 hazers/butt hurt ppl disliked this video
ThoRho & PRhofound not all Greeks graduate with low GPAs. I know Greeks so graduated with 4.0s. Not all Greeks haze.
You need at least a 2.5 minimum to even be considered for membership. Nice try though
Tj smoove for most orgs yes you do. But not all Greeks have that gpa
This was so wonderful to listen to. My ex husband who was suppose to be saved joined the sigmas and from what I understand is in it deep. He is so deep in the world now that it makes no sense. It’s unfortunate that he has forgotten everything he was taught while we were serving the Lord together. The devil is busy and he was an easy target! Be blessed.
Congratulations! Keep thirsting for knowledge, there's a huge problem with Christianity. I invite you to watch my videos.
Praise God for your testimony! When you take a giant step back and look at where Blacks have come from: God delivered us from Africa- the birthplace of voodoo, through a hard pathway of slavery where we had to find the living God to survive that. Each one of us who are American Descendants of Slavery, are living miracles! Our ancestors prayed us forward and we stand free and blessed and what do we do? We entangle ourselves in bondage by joining these stupid greek letter organizations. Thank you for you light. So many of our people are hellbound and lost. Shameful!
Made this whole vid and they still took y’all money and the bond is strong but hey go off
ravensquad21 With God, all bonds and soul ties are broken. Everyone loses money; that’s a fact. But, they will get it right back, ten fold. 😊😎
Ebony C with god my bond is strong with both him and my affiliations. With him I am stronger than ever.
Hmmmmmm, My GPA increased after I joined Phi Beta Sigma. The ideals are brotherhood, *scholarship,* & service after all. 🥴
It wasn't about them, it was about what God & what he has purposed for you & your life. (I stopped watching the video after the kitchen conversation)....God bless!
Y’all just don’t know how many times I had to re-type this .... was this all you did in college ? Sound like you was trying to fit in
Feel if want to Denounce membership do it but Sigma for life and church is even more demon all around churches wish you best stop and just do whatever make happy p
I agree with you. In the church and different organizations always have some bad apples. Respectfully
So because you got hazed, and nobody got you, a grown man who got yourself into jail (It was just some tickets, nothing crazy), out of jail, you denounced your letters? It's very easy to say, white Jesus is the reason. You knew you were going to get hazed, the moment you got hazed, you should have dropped, saved your money and your time. You talk about them not being brothers to you, but then you turn around and leave them. Are you now that help to someone that you saught from the fraternity??? I need to get on here and say because white Jesus and get some followers...
Alot of sigma are pastors .... stop it GOMAB!!!!
What does that mean? Lol Pastors are not the standard…. Yahweh is.
Is everyone of God? Serious inquiry. Especially, with and amongst the whole "only one-hundred-and-forty-four thousand [will be anointed enough to make it to the special place with God and Jesus Christ]," what does that mean for how the rest of "us," or "them," should live their/our lives? Do our/their good deeds still count as the 'goodness of God,' within/from God's eyes? Is the good 'they' do, just as "right," as when 'good' is done by the Anointed ones?...
Also, I also wonder about all the bad that is done in the name of Jesus Christ and God, and how that can be so widely disregarded amongst the faith-based communities, all in the spirit of preserving the stereotype of 'helpfulness' that God/Jesus Christ are. Should these GLO's, even with THEIR stereotype of being 'good for people, but #still do some bad [when zero-ing in on some aspects],' should these orgs get the same breaks or be cut the same slack, as the -- organizings -- associated with, or OF, Jesus Christ/God?...But, chea.
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Bro please reach out to me if you can. I wanna chop some things up
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A tad immature. In all things there should be balance. The young man appears to have been hurt. Wishing both the best. Sounds like a lot like words from someone who is just finding spirituality and making their way. In about 5-10 years they will find the balance. Don't blame an organization. We are all accountable for our own actions. Phi Beta Sigma didn't lead you away from God. YOU drifted from God. Know thyself. Sounds like they may be looking to start a Church using anti-Greek lettered organization as the hook.
Michael Tucker Very good question. I knew God quite well before I pledged. I was saved at the age of 14 and grew up in a spiritual Christian household.
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Who’s to say the word of god is correct?
God does. The word of God is truth bc Jesus says that He is the truth and He is the living word. It's a complete circle.
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Justin Gibson Right frat
Repent! Jesus will come back, let go of your idols. These organizations are made up of people seeking approval/validation. Your identity & acceptance is in christ. Turn from false gods
@@TheXanthus1 Repent! Jesus will come back, let go of your idols. These organizations are made up of people seeking approval/validation. Your identity & acceptance is in christ. Turn from false gods. None of these organizations will matter in heaven
Smh
SYH (soften your heart)
God
Family
Frat/Sorority
If you don't put those things in that order, you don't need to be in an NPHC org. There are many pastors, ministers, bishops that are in these organizations, are they demonic too?
@@2debonair1914 don't confuse the organization as being demonic as us saying people are demonic bc that's not the case. There are demonic influences in many things that we can be involved in. Just because there are pastors and other people involved in the church who are part of these orgs doesn't make it right. Soul tie is still a strong thing even for some who stand before the church
@@atalahstevenson8799 saying that from your definition is saying that going to the gym is demonic. There is nothing demonic from these orgs.
@@2debonair1914 how exactly are you correlating the gym to being part of a Greek letter organization?
You're probably one of those people who asked your dean to change that one part of the Light. You're judging an organization by a chapter of it.
Jesus himself couldn't make me denounce the brotherhood
Look up set demon