Roland Martin on Pledging Alpha, Goes Off on Fraternity Hazing: That's the Dumbest S*** (Part 3)
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In this clip, renowned journalist/news commentator Roland Martin reflects back on growing up in the Third Ward neighborhood of Houston, Texas. He also explains the factors that led to his decision to attend Texas A&M over the local HBCU's. He explains that despite some of the backlash he's received over his decision, he's a proud alum and his choice was heavily influenced by his financial situation at the time, because his parents spent less than $1,000 combined between him and his two siblings while they were in college. He also breaks down the demographics at PWIs and HBCUs.
Roland Martin also details pledging Alpha Phi Alpha, the oldest historically African American fraternity. During the discussion, Martin condemns hazing and says it's not the right way to mold young fraternity members. He also talks about challenging other peers who condone hazing before breaking down its history. To hear more, check out the clip above.
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No parent sent their child to school to come home in a box!!!! Talk that shit Roland…. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Man..unfortunately this was the reason I never wanted to pledge as a junior transfer. I saw people getting hazed around campus and one person ended up dying as a result. I’m all for brotherhood and the unity but he’s right, hazing doesn’t “make the man into a brother”
Exactly, my frat ended up being the football team.
Pledging as a Junior Transfer is only a PWI thing I mean it’s possible if you wanna go Sigma…but it’s not really heard of often at HBCU’s.
ARE BLACK MEN FORCED TO TALK TO THIS GUY WHOS A PROVEN RACIST AND A SPY PLANT.. ONLY BLACK PEOPLE TALKING THERE CRAP TO NON BLACKS.. THIS IS CRAZY.. NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS..
It's wicked and not of Christ. You made the right decision.
Facts
I desperately wanted to pledge but was warned about it. I am currently teaching at an HBCU, and two of my students were hospitalized in the spring of 2019. This is terribly sad.
Yeah… it’s still going on today..
@@TWN321 Yes, it was ruffer ihe 80s, 90s, early 2000s on lines at hbcus. kids say man i can't even sit down in class/paddling
I DESPISE hazing!
You despise a treadmill
@Roland Did you hear that the local CBS affiliate, here in OKC, donated their ENTIRE former studio and equipment to Langston University for their Journalism program? That's major!
You said a word in this segment👏🏾 fearlessly, at that. this is what the organizations are supposed to stand for. Black excellence.They've adopted a gang/street mentality and it seemed like they even had it back then.
@@thenovelist7472 lmao truth
Many are called few are chosen
Hazing is idiotic. A lot of Frats like to say that the process protects the integrity of the frat by weeding out people who can’t “handle” the process. We’ll in my opinion it does the opposite, the reputation of BS keeps a lot of good brothers out, especially at the grad chapter level. I’m a doctor, my pops is an omega, id love to join and work with the frat on initiatives in the community. At the same time though I’m too old and have accomplished too much to let another man out hands on me.
Great points but usually the pledge process @ graduate level or post graduate is based on community service projects. At least, that was my experience when I pledged the graduate chapter of Delta Sigma Theta. It was a beautiful, loving, and respectful process.
@@Lolo-vy5tk I think the ladies grow out of the BS faster than the men. I’m closely affiliated with some Omegas at the grad level and there’s still a ton of BS that goes on.
I'm with you on that. Black male software engineer here and I would have pledged Omega had it not been for their history of violence. In no dimension, including this one, is another man beating me and not getting it back immediately.
@@afrothundar it's not even about uplifting black folks anymore. Sure community work is done, but it really just seems about exclusivity and gives one group of black people the ability to say "we're better" than the rest of black folks.
It's one thing to have a rigorous process, in fact, I support that in order to keep the process challenging as not to invite laziness and mediocrity...but as black folks, we've been getting beat up and beat on our entire history in this country and to have groups doing the same thing under the guise of "helping our community" is hypocritical and disgusting.
@@dbdb32it’s absolutely disgusting and ridiculous. It just doesn’t compute.
I totally understand his follow the money statement. My grandson is graduating in May from one of Houston’s most prestigious private high schools. The HBCU’s that he has applied to in Houston and around the country are offering a minuscule amount on financial assistance. But the PWI’s that he applied to are kicking the bank vaults wide open to get that young black student onto their campus. As a family we would be total fools to disregard that financial assistance and saddle us and that young man with a massive amount of college student loans. We’re all unapologetically BLACK folks…and dammit we always will be.
Tell it
I went to a PWI and that definitely doesn’t make me any less black! My son is only considering HBCUs and I’ve told him public schools or at least with equal expenses as state schools since we have some financial say with the money that will be used for his education plus scholarships. I support him and hope he gets what he is looking for at an HBCU. School is school to me, but then again my school had 26% minorities VCU in Richmond, VA.
I agree, my brother went to community college and transferred with a 4.1 GPA. His dream was to go to FAMU. Long story short, they were a bit shady with their scholarships and reneged on what they offered him. Meanwhile Brown University (An ivy league school) offered him a full ride...He's getting ready to graduate this year and doesn't have to pay a dime while his friends he went to high school with have racked up 80k-100k in student loan debt.
He is speaking the truth….I pledged Kappa at Prairie View in 1999…not speaking on anything that we experienced but I can honestly say that now that I am in my 40’s and see things from a different perspective……I get it now👊🏾👊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Facts
By you saying you’re not going to speak on it invalidates the rest of your statement.
@@TSwann “MY” journey and growth has nothing to do with you. No one even asked you your opinion on “MY” comment. “MY” pledging experiences are just that…….”MY” experiences! Me seeing things differently as I have gotten older, has absolutely nothing to do with me sharing “MY” experiences on a social media outlet for the world to see just to prove my point to satisfy anybody fam.✊🏾👊🏾✌🏾
@kingbyron3871
Aight don't share then.
But hurry up and come up out of that agreement with some greek gods. Hurry!!
Jesus Christ is waiting for you.
Good, but Roland Martin is lying.
I pledged fall 1986. No physical hazing on my campus. I attended a PWI. This message needs to start from the top. It's still wink, wink with fraternities. They say no hazing, but still hazing these boys. Stupid to call people paper because they didn't get beaten. It sickens me.
You're paper and PWI...pick one....your opinion doesn't count
How about we call ya'll cat lol
The point if joining the organizations is to provide service to the community. I am now a life member and have been serving my community for over 30 years. Call me what you want, but I understood the assignment and the mission. My process wasn't easy, mentally (I was initiated in the 80's) but no one hit me and I can look them in the eyes and call them my sorors without any malice in my heart.
@@SethChillis lol
@@terrelldinkins273 Speak on it. The only badge of honor that these people can wear are the lumps and bruises that they’ve carried since they were in their young teens and early 20s. Probably hobbling along recounting their war stories and trauma bonding with their line brothers and sisters.
I’m a member of a D9 crossed summer 08 and I felt the same way like Roland, he dropping a lot of facts and it’s crazy because prophytes and old bruhs who have kids careers and all that fall in the mindset of hazing because they got hazed
Can’t front, even though I went through the ‘underground’ pledge process almost 20yrs ago, if my son decided to pledge in 15yrs, I wouldn’t want him to be hazed. That shit was crazy back in the day and I hear it’s even worse nowadays. Lol!
These new cats are out of control with hazing.
Some of the non-physical/mental aspects of hazing are rough as the physical aspects.
As a 39yr old, I definitely see things differently.
Because a lot of cats that get or got beat, aren’t as active as ‘Paper’ bruhs.
Bruh as someone who also pledged you shouldn’t be talking about it. You must not have pledged or maybe you did and dropped like a heaux 😂🤣😂
You guys are all losers LOL
@@joeblack2809 you definitely gotta be some type of hoe to go thru the shit as a man all y’all weird as hell ah lil sick in head for letting another man whip yo ass hundreds of times with a paddle
Even ppl that didn't pledge, like myself, are well aware of hazing. It's an open secret at this point, although organizations try to lie about it lol.
@@joeblack2809 Discretion is key 🤫
I went to school with Roland. I can attest to everything he said. The Deltas had the same philosophy. We were very close to the Alphas at TAMU.
Then they all skated
One of my brothers said that during his process he literally hated his big brothers because of what what done to him.
That's what I always thought.
Just love Roland Martin!!! Speak!!!
I'm glad you spoke up Roland.
The crap we’ve done in the name of community service. 😢
I went to an hbcu and enjoyed the experience for the two years I went but dropped out because of the financial stress in put on me and my family, as well as not being certain about what I wanted to do, if I could have a second chance I'd definitely go to a pwi, and hazing is stupid what sense does it make to beat "loyalty" into someone, lowkey sounds like some slavery mindset ish
If you would have pledged, your line brothers would have pulled together and made sure you had what you needed to stay in school and graduate! That's the part non-greeks don't have the luxury of experiencing in life! Just like when I'm hiring....it doesn't matter which organization, Devine 9 is going to get the job!
@J. Davis ΩΨΦ if the cost is a ass whipping I'm good, currently doing just as good if not better than some of my classmates, a home owner as well, college isn't the only way trades and skills deserve to be pushed just as hard as a degree but our people are to bouije to hear that
@@spoolyboi9434 "College isn't the only way," that's a bullshit cop out for those who fail to apply themselves in school! The odds of becoming successful are far greater with a college degree! Numbers don't lie!
@@JDavis-zk6vd I have strong bonds with “Greeks (cough), and non-Greeks from my college days. And both tried to keep me from leaving school in ‘94 when things got to overwhelming. All you need to be in life is a person of high morals and character. Thanks for carrying on the slave masters’ grand design. 🤦🏾♂️
So you hire just because of some stupid affiliation instead of who’s best for the job?
When I pledged greek, it was instilled in me the reason for the “physical training” (never to be called "hazing" because we are a non hazing fraternity) that took place and I didn’t understand why then.
Now, even as a 32 year old, I’m still waiting on the “why” for it being 100% necessary…..
Speak Facts Brother & depending on your line # another Brother with that number would haze the Shhhit out of you. Never understood hazing.
It’s all spritual
I do not believe physical, emotional or mental damage must be inflicted to bring unity on a line
But I do believe accountability is necessary. I pledged a Business fraternity and we had public speaking requirements, business attire we had to wear etc
What we learned prepared us for the corporate world & forced my pledge class to work together on group projects for weeks at a time
No harm was done & I had pledge brothers I will jump & help to this day. Divine 9 has the influence to make the pledge process 100% constructive
I’m also an AKA & was initiated at a PWI. Been financially active since I joined in 2015
Kudos to Roland Martin on his anti-hazing stance. I hate it too. I can't believe I subjected myself to that back in the day when I was pledging.
I am glad he spoke on this. That's the reason I never joined a fraternity.
I went to college after joining the military (special forces) there was no way in hell someone was gonna abuse me. Drill Sgt. did enough of that.
Pledging/ Hazing was actually started from fraternity members returning from the military fyi..
@@z040880 FYI hazing has been around since the late 1700's
@@Rambunctious216 yep but college black fraternities picked it up from military members
@@z040880WRONG!!! You tried it tho.
@@z040880 but you clearly stated the huge difference one is military the other is school. Hazing in the military is to make sure you can be trusted and follow orders you can't make a navy seal by simply asking them to do push ups or to swim you have to test them in all aspects, the goal is to build a soldier ready to die fighting to win. College hazing serves no purpose, I'm not preparing for war, I'm trying to get a job🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️. Your comment was pointless and made no sense. Cats are the same as dogs in your brain I guess😂😂😂.
All Facts! I'm in D9 and said this throughout my involvement in a sorority
Preach Uncle Roland!!!! As a member of the D9 some chapters forget about unity and excellence.
Yes
My pops pledged Omega Psi Phi in "88 he told me how bad the hazing was he said he had his ribs broken from being kicked while doing push ups and how him and his line had to eat dog food out of a dog pan and how they had to strip down naked and get paddled for being late he also mentioned how one of his LB's committed suicide right after they crossed over cause he was so damaged from what happened my pops told he still has ptsd to this day from what happened.
Sounds like yo pops is a hoe ass n*gga cause aint no way another man about to make me strip naked to paddle me FOH.
That’s tragic I’m glad I didn’t join a D9 organization
I'm a Alpha. We was hazed. But the omega's version of hazing was way more brutal. They was straight abused.
I heard the Kappas was beating folks. I'm from Englewood in Chicago. I told my boy I ain't let niggas in the hood put they hands on me I'm not about to pay a light skin-pretty boy nigga put his hands on me. We were summoned to the house one night, I didn't go, he came back to my dorm all fucked up. He said they all got jumped and robbed by the Kappas. And four of the Kappas ended up coming out a couple years later. I'm glad I dodged those butt games I heard they played.
what school, what chapter. i don't believe you
It really amazes me that a HBCU would rather have young black people in debt just to attend college rather than have the best black intellectuals in America graduate from their institution..Sadly im coming to the conclusion that we as black people just hold each other and ourselves down in society at this point..
You believe this? College isn't free- there are employees and expenses just like everywhere else.
@gotmypearls from what he's saying it didn't matter about a person's GPA and what value they would bring to the school it only mattered about money money money..If we weren't so divisive and built together from way back then this conversation wouldn't even be happening in 2023
Every college would rather have u in debt...not jus Hbcus.. Unless your on scholarship...u we be in huge debt after college
Roland Martin is one man who doesn’t tolerate foolishness 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for telling like it is Roland!!! College is College...I was in the same boat. I feel the same exact way. I went to a PWI and I'm still the same BLACK Man I was when I left home as when I came back home!!! I also feel the same way about pledging, dumb crap. You don't have to touch anyone to get your point across; what about the selection process? If you don't select the right people, then you are not getting the right people that fit your organization. I took the wood, but some of those same brothers don't speak or haven't done anything for me. You can have fun with things, but don't demean anyone.
Maaan, he stirring up the hornets nest lol but he speaking the truth!
Its only a hornets nest cause its thise "dudes" mad -cause thats it. You are in a brotherhood on Wednesday but Tuesday that same dude kicked you in the ribs. Now hes your "brother". After graduation....neither has done anything but hey we bruths...and "kangs"...
Imagine it being his turn to get paddled and Roland Martin actually says “y’all want to paddle the behind when I want to pledge the mind” 🤔 😂😂😂 @ 7:07
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Lmaooooooo bruh I’m DYIN!! Lol why did i picture this perfectly??
Lol lol
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 hahaha!!!! Man…set woulda been rollin, his line name would’ve been determined that night!
As a younger person I always wanted to belong to a fraternity, traditionally a lot of the so called "Elite" bros were part of a Frat. I finally got my change to pledge. Howevwer once i got wind of the fact ass whuppins was the norm I immediatly stepped down. I said it way back then and still say it today, NOBODY is beating my ass, and i'm going to let it happen voluntarily? Respect to all the Frats but , I progressed without them.
Just go paper, still can accomplish what you want
As a member of the D9, and military veteran, Roland is spot on! What you go through in the military is a kind of hazing, a WELL REGULATED chaos if you will. It’s designed to TURN 50 TO 80 individuals into a well choreographed SINGLE organism and they do it effectively. The first thing I noticed when I was going through my D9 is that it wasn’t supervised or regulated. These people don’t know what they’re doing. Unlike the military, the process was unsafe, and no mitigation plan if things took a wrong turn. It was just violence for the sake of violence! It wasn’t meant to build shit!! I said what I said!!
I love hearing Roland Martin talk about his pledging days! Being a Divine Nine member myself (who pledged), I enjoy hearing the old head's stories.
I want to thank Roland for discussing matters of hazing. I also went to a PWI, with aspirations of pledging of fraternity. I was hesitant about pledging as I didn’t want to get hazed. I had enough of it just being in the Army. I was able to graduate with my degree and maintain friendships with those who did pledge. The stories of their pledging experiences were horrible. In my opinion, hazing has no place in building young people for membership in the D9.
ALL D9 orgs AND other BGLOs need to watch THIS segment!!!
I agree with a lot. I’m an Alpha myself.Spring ‘18 Solo ace. It’s not worth someone accidentally dying, and or even afflicting pain to someone. There’s a mentality in the Greek world where you “skated” if you didn’t get hazed (most graduate chapters).
If this was the mindset I would have pledged
Hazing is still heavy now I just got out of school
Save your dignity … nowadays they’ll have you playing with another man’s 🍆 just so you can shake your shoulders at parties!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I graduated from a PWI. What I’ve come to learn is that most blacks stick together more at PWIs than HBCUs. Pledging has it’s life learning lessons IF the right chapter understands the process.
I definitely agree with this…the unity at my PWI with the blacks is unmatched!!!!
hoe can you make that blanket statement. if you didn't go to an hbcu, how would you know that😂😂. This why PWI Blacks stay getting crowned. yall say dumb shit like this 😂😂
@@myamoncrief 🤡
Or could it be because the blacks were smaller in numbers and needed to stick together for support it gave the appearance that you were closer at your PWI? I have to tell you, in all my years dealing with college students, I have seen the complete opposite of what you have stated.
Man Damn Roland Martin is 🔥 Texas Tough! Most articulate media personality across the Board! Love the Ascot Intellect!
It’s about time men voice this kind of wisdom! It’s about damn time!
Texas Southern University alumnus, Third Ward, Texas!
Hazing and skin branding isn't a form a slavery?
it most certainly IS!
Yes it is 🤦🏽♂️ educate yourself please.
@@reeseromeo6 that was a rhetorical question.
Indeed it is a form of slavery.
Thanks so much brother Martin for your honest yet intelligent take on the "Hazing" issue. I've always had an issue with hazing and what I've seen happen to people who were literally injured in the process. I've seen it when parents actually came to our HBCU ready to go off on the individuals that hurt their child. PERIOD. Blessings and love to you good brother. 🤙
Yes, Hazing was really bad fall98-03 years (George Bush erra) at HbCUS and before too I woud imagine. 18-21 age group are longing for respect so this is the reasonthey go through the barabaric process. It's a pattern if spring 98 wen through it then we're gonna take the 99 applicants through and so onn. Ultimately the grad advisors try to preach this to the kids but kids of today go behind ther backs and have underground lines. becasue of traditions and we wanna get resepect idealogogy. But not only Greeks, hbcu marching bands hazed in the 90s also. It's a resepct thing from what I am told by undergrads. More mature women/men need to to step up and undersore the true reasons for joining the orgs as a whole. voting and graduated is the key. I'm a former educator.
So glad he spoke up
I totally agree, Frat! I went through the same thing. Spring 91. A phi A
The problem is some frats/corps can't separate hazing from initiations.
You can tell when Vlad isn’t interviewing based off the video length alone
Yo I totally agree with Mr Roland- you’re not beating me to be Greek
Boy Roland is PREACHING ‼️‼️
This is what you call 🗣️SENSE 👏🏾
Greek life definitely adopted a bit of a gang/street mentality; this is evident by how the dude in the neighboring chapter said he'll whoop their ass. So ignorant. What Roland is speaking on is what ALL the organization founders had in mind.
Line folders vary from chapter to chapter. Some even have your line number on them.
He speaking straight Facts!
Roland is spot on! 🤙🏽
I have mixed feelings. My journey wasn't easy and certainly wouldn't wanna do it again. But something about my LB and I finishing it out together is a feeling and bond we hold tight. On the other hand going thru a bunch of stuff isn't gonna make you stay financial or be a leader. I don't think there is 100% correct way to pledge.
“Something about my LB and I finishing it out together is a feeling and bond we hold tight”
This feeling you are describing is what we mental health workers refer to as trauma bonding. Interesting concept. Look into if you want to understand your feelings more.
@@shantelwillingham5835 It's a long list of great men and women who have this condition then. Some are highly successful and relevant in your career field
@@Alexander-nq9pc I don’t doubt that they are great. Just wish the bonding can be done without the trauma. I empathize with you all. Hopefully you and others have healed from some of those mental and emotional scars.
I pledged and crossed in 1988. Family legacy goes back to 1922 and I will not encourage my boys to pledge. It will die with me.
Pledging stopped in February 1990. That’s when MIP was introduced to the D9. We (SIGMAS) started the change. Things are different now.
Roland never disappoints
Roland sucks not a Real news journalist
The Alphas have Martin Luther King Jr and Thurgood Marshall(1st black supreme court judge). Gotta respect Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Inc and all of the good works they do behind the scenes. They are the very first African American Greek lettered fraternity everyone else came after them.
including Omega Psi Phi?
@@pontiacGXPfanindeed
Respect
Alpha Man here Spring ‘98 AAAAAAA PHIIIIIII ‘06!!! The Brother is 100% correct! Unfortunately, I participated in the underground process in addition to the correct process. Honestly, getting hazed and then hazing others was stupid as hell, however, at that time you didn’t get any respect and was called “Cat” or “Paper”. The truth of the matter was like the brother explained the “National Process” was in fact more challenging and mental while the other shit I just got my ass beat! There was no unity or love in that shit! Then when I crossed I felt like I would never do anyone how I was done but then that shit turned me into a tyrant like the ones who pledged me. Therefore, Mr. Martin’s assessment is accurate as hell! I definitely do not condone hazing!🫡💯
Spring 05 here. Yea, it's amazing how your way of thinking changes as u get older. I totally agree with your statement.
After this....i fucks wit Roland Martin 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Black folks so backwards... we beef over colleges and worst fraternities aren't created to be gangs...
Bravo Roland
Big Bertha was a 300 lb plus buffalo girl and my college roommate was pledging Que. One night he was ordered to her dorm and told to "Eat her meat" and instead of going in her dorm fridge and grabbing some lunch meat he ate Big Bertha's fur burger! All caught on camera too! Big Bertha was a Que Pearl and was very happy and made sure to let everyone in her dorm know! We still laugh about this. Even after almost 40 years!😅
Third ward native here !!!!
He was reaching with that folder situation. Talking about “then I walked out” 😂😂
Reaching my ass
ARE BLACK MEN FORCED TO TALK TO THIS GUY WHOS A PROVEN RACIST AND A SPY PLANT.. ONLY BLACK PEOPLE TALKING THERE CRAP TO NON BLACKS.. THIS IS CRAZY.. NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS..
Fraternities are corny and childish
It's extremely corny&they think they tough 😂😂😂...im not scared of anyone that spent 4 years in college 😂
As a Brother of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Incorporated, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with this message!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Cat
@@z040880 Fuck you. You’d never say that shit to my face either.
I am 23 years old and I am so glad that I never chose to join any stupid sorority. All of the ridiculous acts and deplorable activities that they do just to say you are a part of a group now is the weakest thing I've ever heard of in my life. I'd never allow myself to be disrespected, talked down to, belittled, nor treated like a clown just to have a meaningless association to a bunch of mules. I don't get why people who join these organizations choose to put themselves through so much foolishness and purposelessness for no reason! You're not gaining anything from it so what's the point? It's just not worth it.
wELL, SAID, 98-03 WAS TUFF YEARFS AT HBCUS BECAUSE OF HAZE/PLEDGE CUTLURE. MARCHING BANDS GET DOWN TOO. IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF SPRING 98 WENT THROUGH IT THEN WE TAKING SPRING 99 THROUGH IT ETC..... iTS A PATTERN FROM LINE TO LINE THAT THEY WON'T APPLICANTS TO GO THROUGH. YES, THAT 18-23 AGE GROUP CRAVES RESEPCT BY GOING THROUGH THE PLEDGE/HAZINGPROCESS. THE REAL REASONS IF YOU JOIN IS COMMUNITY SERVICE/ VOTING, AND PROMOTING POSITIVE GOALS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY/SOCIETY AS A WHOLE. IT TAKEA MATUURE WOMEAN/MAN TO UNDERSCORE THESE GOALS FOR THE FRATS/SORORS.
The process is wild but if done correctly and seen all the way through you will appreciate it💯👌🏾💎
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
The process is gay
You a sucka if you let any man haze you. Im glad i never fell into the gay shit
@@thegreatoneforever5587 must’ve dropped its all good. Go make friends with the other GDI’s.
@@joeblack2809 Facts lol
In my humble opinion, these organizations are not what you think. I renounced after praying about it.
Alpha checking in… heard about A&M’s “process” but it was NOT how I crossed, at a PWI. Let’s just say you earned ‘em and there was no HATE afterwards, only respect. Active Life Member… ‘06 all day, er day! 🤙🏾
I’m going to share my story and the story of a good friend. I had a friend that wanted to pledge an organization more than anything but was not willing to go through the physical abuse he would have had to take. He was not a weak man by any means. He was a child of abuse and felt that being beat for weeks on end would be triggering. It’s messed up because he was a stellar student and became a successful entrepreneur. He still feels like he was cheated out of that experience and the network it provides because he was worried about what the beatings would do to his physical and mental health. I think the D9 really needs to consider the level of talent that they are leaving on the table because there are individuals who are legitimately concerned about their safety… I was an individual who attempted to pledge in college. During the early stages of the process my parents drove up to surprise me. When i met them in my room they saw the physical damage that had been done to me and immediately told me to quit or I couldn’t come back to school. No one in our family went to college so this was completely foreign to them. To this day I look back on what could have been if only there wasn’t this extreme process.
Your family came in and saved you. You don’t need an organization to better yourself
@@jordanwilliams1546 truth
sorry you had to go through that
Cry harder
@@z040880 you sound mad could never make it to college to get assaulted by grown ass niggas lol
I came for the comments. 🍿🍿 too many grown men in the comments who got spanked by other men. That's nothing to be proud of.
I’m saying 😂
Solid interview !!! Roland is on point !!!!!
Needed this, thank you @rolandsmartin for your candor
I respect this guy!
Why he’s a sellout
@@thegreatdel9679 What did he sell out too?
@@theintrovertedc.o.6214 the liberal LGBTQ mafia
@@thegreatdel9679 Exactly
People Who Haze Are Usually Those Who Were Hazed In Their Path. Instead Of Healing From It And End The Cycle, They Rather Hurt Others And Make New Pledges Feel Their Pain
Had a few Que homies say they wanted me to do it. A lie. Told them I ain’t paying for friends and I’m not lettin no mfs put their hands on me
Yeah! I pledged Old School myself. A lot of those dudes I still hate til this day. SPR 94. 🤙🏾Facts Rolland.
I don’t subscribe to the idea that it’s mandatory that I endure suffering in order to be rewarded with encouragement & emotional nourishment. God doesn’t want that for me. My family & village wouldn’t want that for me. I don’t want that for me. Don’t be no damn fool, young people.
Thank you Roland...perfectly said....
I shoulda known Vlad wasn’t going to be the one interviewing him. Look forward to Roland’s interviews anyway!!
Thank you Rowland. From 1 frat to another! 06!
Its Phrat..but 06 paper bruhs wouldn't know that
@@z040880 Man I dont give a damn about that shit! Paper, Caper, Chaser These letters bro.! But okay Phrat!
Honestly I initially thought the D9 Greeks on my campus were truly about achievement, community, and dignity. However, the more I saw and heard of their antics around campus, I figured they were really just a collegiate gang.
From the way this interviewer is speaking, it seems like "He Got HIS A'S BEAT" in College Pledging, lol. He's Constantly Tryin thru the Whole interview to convince Roland to admit that HE DID ALSO, but Roland just ain't havin it. lmao4:53 14:50
NOT ONCE
When dudes like him do VLAD, that' s a sign of desperation.
Thank you brother.
Well said Good Brother 🤙🏾
Real talk 💯
That’s one problem I have with Steve, Harvey representing omega, psi, phi. He did not graduate college. He had the stamina to complete a rigorous pledging process, but could not get a college degree? Bad example
I pledged back in the 80's when things were rather understood. The Kappas ran the yard and made no bones about the "physical" nature of their process. Many were football players and elite members on campus. Dudes sought out their frat and knew to expect a challenge. The Nupes and Ques were known for "demanding" standards in their programs. Can't handle it, don't seek it. Definitely, a balance to be made. No regrets..... rough, but fair. NUPE NUPE!!! 👌🏽♦️
Awesome! Please share some stories!
I went thru a Divine 9 in 1993 and didn't pledge. It's amazing the ignorance brothers have against fraternity members who do not pledge or get hazed.
Who says I went through a divine 9? You are not Greek. Stop.
@@SuperKshepherd what are you talking about???
@@SuperKshepherd you aren't Greek either
No doubt you did not join a fraternity or sorority but you definitely have a axe to grind.
If you didn't pledge, then what the hell did you do?
His whole line was cold ..
Yep!!!!
@@rolandsmartin wow! Much respect sir 💪🏽
I agree with Roland that hazing mess is just manipulative control and abuse
I never pledged but several of my family members did.
But I agree with you wholeheartedly. Spanking and beatings makes no sense
TAMU was ON IT when it came to recruiting back in the day! People really don’t understand! That’s how my sister and I both ended up at TAMU! Academic Scholarships and asking us to come!
Whoop!
Pledged and let me tell you it’s so unnecessary. On the plus side it gives a common experience and sense of accomplishment but on the other side brutality is outdated. Have we not been beaten and brutalized enough in this country? If you have to whip someone’s ass to get them to produce then what good will they ultimately be once they get in? Once those letters go on you can’t beat on someone to get results! And if you are a Christian the Bible expressly forbids the taking of oaths amongst other heretical things. For instance in the Alpha ritual, alpha is presented as the “light of the world”? There is only one true Light of the world and that is Jesus Christ!
You go to the school that wants to pay for your education doesn’t matter if it’s pwi or hbcu if the pwi
That's right Mr. Martin!! You make the Fraternity or Sorority, they do not make you!
Well said, Sir. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
12:00 I'd be a better Person if I went to school with Roland. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s Uncle RoRo❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️💯🤩❤️ STRAIGHT UP, NO CHASE