Two ejected after Mikolas plunks Happ in retaliation for hitting Contreras | MLB on ESPN
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Ian Happ accidentally hits Willson Contreras with his backswing, and Miles Mikolas hits Happ two pitches later, leading to Mikolas and Oliver Marmol getting ejected.
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That was the slowest looking 94mph pitch I've ever seen lol
stadium guns are higher than radar guns. I seriously doubt it was 94 myself.
I know . I heard a 90 4SFB takes 0.3 seconds to reach home plate , but from up high it looks like it takes 3 seconds to reach home plate
@@jackson5116 it was 94.1
Lol yeah it really was huh
Your editor missed an important part, as the catcher was starting to walk from the plate he hugged Happ. They are former teammates. You also missed the first pitch thrown at Happ, that was rather high.
Your thumbnail shows the hug, show the video of the hug.
The video missed two key parts of this whole thing. I don’t see how anyone thinks that Happ did this intentionally to the catcher.
@@NaterBater you might be able to blame Happ for poor bat control, but I didn’t see intent.
@@mikecumbo7531 yea I can agree with that, it just sucks that it got him right on the head and sliced him open.
@@NaterBater Nooby thinks he did that intnetional. But throwing at Happ was intentional because the Cardinals are notorious and have a long history of pulling "keepers of the game" BS like that.They have been doing it since Tony LaRussa became their manager and every manager after it has done the same. So the hug doesn't matter. Cards pitcher still threw at him intentionally because that is the BS they constantly pull..
@@chriskay1449 there’s people in this comment section who believe he did it on purpose, only reason I said that. The other key thing that was missed in this edited video is the fact that the 2-1 pitch was thrown right at Happ’s head. He threw at him two pitches in a row, so I think this also played into the ejection.
Pitcher was just looking for a reason to get outta that 100 degree heat lol
That’s smart
Or just didn’t wanna get rocked by a red hot cubs team 😂
He was also getting shelled
@@squidbate3404first inning with 2 outs? How was he getting shelled?
@@thenofilterchannel8247his start b4 this was against cubs and he got shelled and probs would have this game
The fact that pitchers get to intentionally hit players for revenge is insane. Throw em out every time.
pretty sure they don't, and most are thrown out with very few exceptions since it's hard to prove intent every time
Not saying it was right, but back in the 60’s and 70’s if you miffed a pitcher, you better look out. Three consecutive HRs, the next batter better get ready to duck! Hit a player, next inning one on the other side might get hit. Of course this situation with Happ hitting Contreras was an accident. They hugged afterward.
It is part of the game. Kind of a tradition at this point.
People like you need to stick to soccer. Soft as fukkkk
It's super petty and childish, especially when it's completely unintentional. Chuck em. No place for that in professional sports.
Backswing in no way intentional followed by the most intentional HBP ever 😅
Bull, I would have thrown at his head
@@davidmoss2576In which case, he would have been in no danger.
Well as a pitcher you gotta get your catchers back. Intentional or not.
@@AsianVideoGamer*have your catcher's back, intentional or not.
Yes Miles should have been ejected. Happ was definitely accidental. Hoping Contreras has a speedy recovery
Hilarious that the announcers were shocked about the most intentional hbp I've ever seen led to an ejection.
Normally, they would have issued warnings. HBP in that instance is incredibly common. What the umps should have done is issued warnings when he got buzzed inside. Happ pretty much knew it was coming though, as did everybody else.
@@bkleimann The problem is the pitcher intentionally threw the ball at the batter for no reason. Before you say it was retaliation for hitting Contreras, it was obvious that Contreras was getting too near to the batter to frame the pitch, and ended up getting hit by the bat. So that's Contreras's fault. So basically, the pitcher had no reason at all to throw a ball at the batter. Good call in booting him.
@cw9282 I wasn't saying it wasn't intentional. It clearly was, but it also wasn't a pitch that was aimed at hurting the batter either. It was a clear old school move. If he had thrown a heater, may have been a different story.
Not a lot of good things to say about the umps this season, but they got it dead on right here. The back swing was clearly unintentional, neither team seemed to think it was and there was no tension between the two teams. Then suddenly the pitcher throws at a hitter twice trying to create something. Good to see them shut that down right away, no place for that. It was an easy call so hard not too, but even those have slipped by umps this season.
Happ didn't seem to mind it at all being hit
@@jackson5116 Because he's a good sport, unlike the pitcher who's a bonehead. But as an umpire, you don't let boneheads get away with boneheaded plays or they'll do it again in the future.
Bozo announcers, you’re actually surprised he was tossed? So umps should just allow that obvious HBP?
It’s just baseball tradition and mentality. Umpires needs to learn about it
@@careydowis8664 I've never heard something so right
Yes
@@careydowis8664 It's "tradition" when its something intentional. There is no rule, or tradition, that says you deliberately throw at a guy when he hits his friend by accident. And the pitcher couldn't even get the job done on the first attempt to make it look like an accidental HBP. He definitely deserved to be tossed.
@@careydowis8664you really think they don't? Those are veteran umps. They know the game.
I love how shocked the announcers are. “This ejection couldn’t have come at a worst time. With the team being in the thick of a pennant race. *checks notes* Oh wait, it says they’re tied for last place in the division.”
Yeah that cracked me up too. I'm not sure how they expected that to not result in an ejection. You don't intentionally throw at a guy like that 2 times in a row and get just a warning. My favorite was when they said it was going to cause the game to get out of control. Simply giving a warning would have most likely caused it to get out of control.
What part of “if you hit a batter intentionally you can be thrown out of the game” do the announcers not get?
They overreact all the time
In old school baseball this was nothing besides take your base and get a warning if it wasn’t a safe pitch. That’s what they grew up with n expect
There's things called unwritten rules if you look them up u r expected to stick up for your teammates
Also the manager marmol has been ejected 3 times this season v the cubs because of bad umpiring
You new age sports fans are soft and corny asf.
@@ryanpeterson8319 This isn’t “old school baseball”. The current MLB rules say that if the umpires think you hit a batter intentionally, you may be ejected from the game. Manager too.
Cardinals get revenge by getting their starting pitcher and coach tossed in the first inning. You really showed them😂
He pitched 0.2 innings hit Happ then got ejected then cubs scored and he got the loss and it’s a free win for the cubs and now they are 500 with a 6 win streak
Did the Cards really retaliate after a backswing? 😂
Yep and got their pitcher and manager ejected in the first inning. It’s like they all took a shot to the head before coming to that decision lol
Lol which was really dumb.
Let me be clear folks I don't like the Cardinals but a hitter should never hit a catcher with a backswing intentional no but I don't care they can't happen quit trying to Jack the baseball to Mars & control the bat.
I had no problem with the Cardinals plunking him ejection worthy for me no absolutely not but a warning & we go on yes.
Lance Barksdale the crew chief needs to be fined & suspended for that ejection taking place you warn them Happ knew it was coming never said a word only way I eject Mikolas is if he hits Happ in the head or shoulders. The hip no just a warning.
@@patrickgray5633 he tried to hit him in the head on the previous pitch lol
@@patrickgray5633they could have been soft and warned both teams, but the umpires drew a line and said, no more, with that ejection. They were within the rules to eject the pitcher, and when the manager argued, he was rung up.
Don’t throw intentional pitches at people if don’t want to be ejected announcers.
Take a hit after you deck the catcher.. that’s just expected in baseball. People are a bunch of pusses these days.
I couldn't believe the announcers defended the Pitcher! Worst intentional plunk I've seen!
Announcers wanna get rowdy when he threw directly at him 😆
This was clear intention. When Happ hit Contreras, Happ went to check up on Contreras. No warning needed there, since Happ's swing was legal and Happ showed remorse after hitting Contreras.
Then the next pitches, Mikolas aimed for Happ's head-neck area (And almost hit him there) and then he even made an intentional movement to hit Happ.
I get it that there should've been a warning after the head-neck area miss, but if it didn't hit him, then what's the warning for?
That was intentional and lead to a *JUSTIFIED EJECTION*
No doubter on that.
Edit: Umpires did their job correctly. Intentionally hitting a batter COULD lead to ejection.
If he has hit him with the first pitch, they would’ve just warned the benches. He threw high and inside at him twice, easy ejection.
Once. The one that hit him wasn't "high and inside."
@@ATalkingBadgerthe pitch he threw previously was. they just didn’t show it because they’re biased. just like they didn’t show Contreras hugging Happ
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!
Did they pull this announcer from the WWE? Dope.
Happ would never hit Contreras on purpose they were teammates for gods sake, even gave him a hug after. Miles clearly was trying to hit him don’t know why the announcers are so surprised
Bob Gibson famously, at least in my family, hit his former roommate when they met again. told him as he walked to first that they weren't roommates anymore. that's the story my dad tells me
I like how Happ just kinda took it like yeah I understand why you did that.
He was the better man recognize he did wrong
@@urielrdz30he did wrong by accidentally hitting him on a backswing? Are you that stupid?
No one in the comments apparently understands that lol but it appear the umpires don’t understand the game either
He knew he was going to
@@bendover2425cry about it
Lol c'mon the batter didnt no where intentionally hit him with the bat on purpose...by far 😢 i would have through the pitcher out...and the announcer sounds like pure stupidity lets have the feel of baseball like fr? I knew what he meant and ive seen mound rushes and the whole 9 yrds and theres unwritten rules when to throw at a batter but this was not anywhere close to that facts
Bro the that was intentional on Contreras....im sure he was talking trash....there is no professional MLB player that cant handle a baseball bat.
@@TheReal-trublu357have you ever seen when they lose control of the bat and it goes flying into the dugout or the crowd? That makes zero sense. There’s no reason to hit the catcher in the head with the backswing, that’s a silly conclusion.
@@TheReal-trublu357go watch it at .25x playbackback speed bro he didnt do it on purpose big dawg
Ive watched it 10 times and everytime even his mechanics after came around was all natural frfr watch it close
@@TheReal-trublu357 you've clearly never watched baseball before bats go flying all the time 💀
These announcers are some how more pathetic than athletic Ned Flanders here. Throwing at a guys head then intentionally hitting him cause his swing accidentally hit your catcher is insanely soft. Wilson hugged it out with Happ cause they are very close friends. To argue that ejection is insane.
That was the most obvious most intentional hbp ever and the announcers are gonna defend it😂
It's ESPN, should we really be surprised by the moronic announcing?
AT LEAST he didn't head hunt. That's about my only take from this. lol
@@toptenguy1I’ve heard online that he tried, there was supposedly another clip of him trying to pitch it past Haps head, but he missed
I love how the announcers are just completely taken aback for him getting thrown out LOL
Cardinals organization and those announcers should be pretty embarrassed about the whole situation
Cards announcers don't have any "feel for the game". The HBP was clearly intentional, and Mikolas more or less admitted it afterward. In the old days the umpires would let this sh*# go until there was a full-on brawl. I guess that's what they mean by "feel for the game."
I fully agree with this ejection lol. Happ didn’t intentionally hit Contreras and they were former teammates and hugged after it happened. This is followed by the most obvious intentionally HBP ever. Cardinals continue to dig their own grave
Bro they didn't show the part where they hugged it out!!! That totally changes the story
Good god the cardinals announcers cried the entire game. Was a really bad look for them. (Not a fan of either team)
Then shut up and not worry about they've been annoucers forever and are passionate
I was p.o when it happened but im a cards fan forever
@@Chynxi05 there’s a difference between being passionate & overreacting
@@Chynxi05 I get it's the home town call, but this was Hawk Harrelson-level homerism.
They sound like they’ve been WWE announcers forever.
Unless you think Happ hit him on purpose, which is ridiculous, what's the point in hitting him??
Because you’re mad?
@@frozenrats lol! Ooookay
The message is “control your swing” obviously it wasn’t intentional on Happ’s part, but actions have consequences.
@@dbliss741They sure do. In this case the message was "You accidentally hit our catcher, we'll get our coach and starting pitcher tossed in the first inning and you'll get a free base. That'll teach you!"
The announcers said the pitcher was "protecting" his catcher. Well, it was nothing but retaliation. Then, they kept whining about it for the rest of the game.
I love it!! Baseball is so trash now.
It’s so sterile and castrated now.
Baseball is dead. This isn’t the same sport anymore and apparently the fans…love it? Lol so many defending the umps. Probably voted for Biden
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Mikolas gave up 5 runs to the Cubs in his last start a few days ago. He wanted no part of them tonight. He knew he would get ejected if he hit Happ (especially after throwing inside on the previous pitch) and that he wouldn’t have to suffer through another embarrassing outing against his team’s biggest rival who just happens to be one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. That’s why this really happened. It wasn’t to “send a message” because Happ obviously didn’t do that on purpose
And he still got the loss lol
So the first pitch buzzed Happ, and then Mikolas throws at Happ AGAIN and actually hits him, and the (clearly Cardinals-based) announcers are surprised Mikolas and Marmol got thrown out? Lol sure, dudes. If you're gonna throw at a guy, hit him on the first pitch. If you miss, you missed your chance.
Happ hitting Contreras was accidental. Mikolas hitting Happ was intentional. Toss em….
clearly not intentional on Happ’s part. Bush league from Mikolas
That was not the back swing, it was the follow through.
Happ and Contreras are friends. The hit was unintentional. Apologies were said and both players hugged it out, yet Mikolas felt the need to escalate something that was already squashed
Rightfully so
Definitely looked intentional, but prob not. The ball had absolutely no spin. Lmk what y’all think. Edit^
Of course it was, it’s a message sent saying don’t hit our catcher. Unwritten rules of the game
Contreras sucks anyway
@@ceejuschrist ur absolutely right
@@ceejuschristthe hit was an accident so that makes no sense..He deserved to get thrown out
It was an accident. These idiotic people think that Ian Happ, the man who IS FRIENDS with Contreras, purposely did this? Man, how much meth do you guys smoke down there in St. Louis? You want on purpose, how about Chase Utley who deliberately slid into Ruben Tejada in Game 2 of the 2015 NLDS when he tried to break up a double play. That was in purpose, with malicious intent. Now, th3 next game, Noah "Thor" Syndegard plunked Utley in the first inning, and he got ejected. He knew, and the Umps knew that it was payback, and that's why they ejected him.
Don't get me wrong, umps have made some bad ejection calls, but this one was correct. You just open up your entire team to get hit and possibly injured. Happ and Contreras hugged it out. It should have ended it there. But Mikalas made a stupid and selfish decision, and he cost his team.😊
At least they weren’t playing this game like it’s Skyrim!
That’s the highlight of Mikolas’s career….
Far from it
The announcers are Cardinal spokespeople, not representatives of fair, impartial announcing. It is never right to intentionally hit a batter.
That announcer is so ignorant in this incident, I swear they the biggest babies when it comes to sports announcing
Love how corny announcers when they get mad lol no way! Have a feel for baseball! Lol
Lol! The pitcher couldn’t even retaliate right. Took him two pitches to plunk Happ, gets tossed in the first inning and still gets hung with the L. 🤡
If Hicks throws that pitch he is not ejected. Everyone in the Universe knows Hicks has neither control nor command.
Hicks is out here catching stray bullets 😂😂😂
Happ did not do that intentionally. These guys played together for years on the Cubs. This pitcher deserves a 10 game suspension. I am not even a CUB FAN( WHITE SOXS FAN).
BUT, THIS IS WRONG.
How does that work for a suspended starting pitcher? Is it just the teams next 10 games or his next 10 starts?
Someone bring battery shaver. Shave his mustache. Make it intentional 😂
That’s what he is known for…
It's really annoying when baseball commentators start saying things like "Have a feel for the game" about a HBP. Unwritten rules are unwritten because anyone who tried to write them down would feel really stupid trying to justify the reasoning why players do these things. Only in Mikolas' head, did he think this was the appropriate course of action.
That pitch was a brutal and obviously racially-motivated attack and he should have been arrested, not ejected. Think of the feelings of the marginalized batter! That poor defenseless birthing person is a hero for taking that malicious and clearly intentional act. Maybe this whole thing could have been avoided if the goalie wouldn't have been so close. Gosh, when did hockey become so violent? I love sports
“Have a feel for the game”
Shut up, you doorknob. Pitcher intentionally beaned a guy because his backswing accidentally clipped the catcher, where the batter and catcher hugged following the play.
It should have been done right there.
Another reason why the DH rule sucks. If Mikolas had to face the pitcher and possibly retaliation himself, he'd be far less likely to be throwing at an opposing batter.
Have a little feel for the game?? I think it’s way past time for millionaire grown men to start growing up! This whole idea of “acceptable retaliation” is old, stupid, and needs to go. Just like the pitcher.
Which one is worse? Pitcher and catcher and or coaching staff to call intentional HBP from an obvious accidental backswing? Or the broadcasters with the biggest homer reaction of them in disbelief the ump gave the toss?
You really just gotta laugh. From the batter to the pitcher lol
Just another example of pitchers being some of the softest people in the sport. You’re going to follow up an unintentional accident with an intentional act, that’s stupid. It’s even more stupid to argue the ejection as if it was wrong.
I assume you arnt familiar with unwritten rules
@@Chynxi05I’ll assume that bot 🤖 has never watch a game of baseball in their life
@@bendover2425ong
@@bendover2425if your old enough to have watched a baseball game from the mid 2000’s or earlier you’d know that retaliation wasn’t just common, it was expected when you’d injure a player from the opposing team intentional or not.
@@BobbyBoucher228 sucks that each generation keeps getting weaker and weaker
Let's go Cubs 🎉
rangers and astros dual yesturday was a lot better than this lol
Can’t wait for a breakdown from Jomboy…
MLB batter just can't lazily keep his arm extended like that and deserved to get drilled. Catcher should probably not be so close to the plate also. But no, batter is being inconsiderate and dangerous casually letting his backswing rotate so much behind him. I'm surprised most catchers don't get injured this way, because it's fairly common for a mediocre hitter to do this.
Poor form, yes. Intentional, no. But intentionally throw at batter and whine about ejection is dumb.
Everyone in the comments defending the umps smh grow a pair
I don't think haap hurt Wilson on purpose
He didn't. The only thing he's guilty of is losing control of his backswing.
Lol forget those unwritten rules man that’s why the sport started dying remember when Acuna had like 8 straight lead off homers and an unwritten rule was to hit a hot batter early to send a message
Fking idiots lmao
That wasn’t an unwritten rule. That was a pitcher giving rogue and letting his ego get in the way. Everybody called him out for it. And yes, I do remember that
Beyond intentional
looks like contraras didnt learn his lesson and now his arm is broken 😂
1:02 stroman lauging is hilarious with tucker banrhart standing there ahahahha
Broadcasters for this game down right atrocious.
“Have a little feel for the game” lol cards suck
Stupid thing about this is there was a 2-1 count with 2 outs and no one on. The Cubs would go on to score 3 runs in the inning.
If that pitch was 94, I can throw 94 (I can’t)
Yes. Stop letting these pitchers get in their feelings and throw a 87+ mph ball at someone then get a warning.
Really? Lol 😂
You ever heard the saying no blood no foul… that’s baseball pitchers have done that always..
That’s happened to me before! Mine was a dorsolateral prefrontal cortex injury.
In layman's terms "Bumpus of the nogginus"..... :)
The stadium organist coming in from the top rope with the music after the ejection.
Im a little confused by all the comments saying how the backswing wasnt intentional. Does that mean its fine? You can just do whatever you want with your bat out there and it doesn't matter who it injures so long as its not on purpose?
Now im more a hockey fan but what we're taught in that sport is that you should always be in control of your stick. If it catches an opposing player in the mouth youre gonna get a high sticking penalty regardless of wether you meant to do it or not.
So im with the pitcher on this one. If youre gonna just be so willy nilly with a literal baseball bat to conk my catcher in the head and face no repercussions for it, youre getting thrown at.
So strange that people keep defending how he didnt meant to do it so that means he should just get to go out there and concuss people.
Bro might know the rules of hockey, but needs to brush up on those MLB rules.
Bruh even their fights are boring 😪
Cardinals have just lost all hope. So let’s do this! 😂. That was pathetic.
That was a no class act by Mikolas. Happ did not hit Contreras on purpose.
It’s cubs cards… it’s the rivalry like Red Sox Yankees there will never be class between the two especially since Wilson played and won a championship with the cubs
I totally agree. Retaliation was totally unnecessary , however that is the history of the cardinal’s and their fan base. I said it earlier. When the cardinals are not in contention, they become violent. History, San Francisco Giants, New York Mets, Cincinnati Reds, los Angeles Dodgers, or just a few organizations that they have had physical confrontations with when they are not in contention. And of course the Chicago Cubs I am going to say it again the further they are from a wild card or contending for a playoff spot the more frequent the incidence of violence and retaliation are. this is not just a coincidence. Let’s go losers.😡😡😡
Wrong. You send a message
@@harlepas A message for an accident? No. I have seen many incidents where a catcher was hit by a back-swing. None was done on purpose, and there was no "message" on the next pitch.
Hard disagree. Baseball is war. Intention doesn't matter. You hit ours, we hit yours. Loyalty to your current teammates above all. Without that, it's not baseball anymore.
No one’s has a feel for baseball in decades, and this is why baseball is the worst sport of all times. This is the stuff that get the views. Shiii other than actually baseball plays 😂💀
Throw at a hitter…thrown out, fined & docked pay. No more room for the old ways.
What this video doesn't show is 2 pitch's before that he threw it at his head, then missed. Next pitch was thrown at his hip.....missed again. Finally the 3rd pitch (The pitch in this video), was thrown towards his waist area & finally hit him. He made sure to hit him so he wouldn't be embarrassed by missing 3x in a row
Wilson wants out of STL. ANYWAY POSSIBLE. JUST TRADE HIM TO MIAMI OR TAMPA BAY.. as for Cardinals announcers Carey+ former Cubs announcer and braves.. has lost his mind and the other one who is a joke anyways. It's kinda funny STL is basically ready to dump players because of there bad decisions made.
It was an accident both players knew it. The pitcher apparently thought he was going to get revenge on something that happened by accident. The umpires tossed him out when they should have issued warnings if even doing that I don’t think was necessary. It was not deliberate it was an accident.
"The Cardinals will be allowed to stitch him up and get him back in the game, I would assume". Uh, no Chip. I know you're new to baseball but a player is never allowed to be reinserted once they leave. unreal. what a clown.
Pitcher clearly throws at batter
Announcer “Another warning sent”
Pitcher gets tossed
Announcer “They’re throwing him out of the game? Wow you gotta be kidding me!”
huge cardinals fan but cardinals have NO position to retaliate for any reason on other teams period. They are struggling so badly they cannot afford any ejections especially the few decent starters they even have. What a dumpster fire, all of management needs to go.
😂😂😂 Contreras got serious brain trauma there apparently… how you get whacked with the bat after creeping up on home plate then 9 months later get your arm broken after creeping up on home plate again 😂😂😂 hope it was worth it lol
Terrible announcers. Have a feel for the game?? Two terrible teams and what happ did was an accident and they think mikolas can just throw at him for no reason
I dislike the announcers more as they speak. If you intentionally hit someone with a pitch, your gone 😂. Have a little feel for the rules of baseball.
He wasn't going at it with the Cubs dugout, he was just showing them where the Cardinals are in the standings.
Way, way down there.
Just look at the pitcher reaction after the throw that hit happ. He knew what he was doing. Happ and Contreras hugged it out that should have ended that.
The only fun part of the game and they’re getting rid of that lol, mlb is stupid….it’s like getting rid of NHL fighting
How long has Happ been in the league and he still does that
Cubs still won that's all that matters
.500 baby! and we’re only 3 games out of a playoff spot!! We’re still in this (sort of). Now we’ve just got to convince the Angels to trade us Ohtani. Then we’d be a lock for a wild card
These annoucers are really bad homers. Mikolas is a child and glad he got 5 games(should be 10, 2 starts)
How often do warnings actually happen??? Seems guys get thrown out just for looking at someone now a days…
Unbelievable I can only say hope the catcher is ok
I saw a similar situation during the WBC qualifiers where the catcher had it worse because the bat caused a screw from the catchers mask to go into the back of his head! He left the game but was back the next day so I believe contreras will be ok
Poor Contreras always getting hurt. This, the broken arm, which he still got catchers interference 😭
Happ didn’t like the catcher and I don’t blame him . Mikolas didn’t like the batter but I do blame
him
Umps got this one right, there was no reason to hit him and he did it anyway, get him out and send a message.
Those one-handed follow-through swings are unnecessary and intended only to hit catchers.