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many of y’all misinterpret when I said “people are calling it gyaru, nigga that’s black face” as me saying “gyaru is blackface”. I didn’t say that. it’s not blackface. I said they were wrong for calling that instance of blackface in that anime (where said character literally makes her skin darker to look like a black person) gyaru, because it ain’t.
Yep, even now it seems we have a good ways to go before we can sort out all of these weird barriers when it comes to black people and how we’re perceived by the broader anime community. What’s strange is that white ppl can always cosplay an asian character no problem, but it’s suddenly an issue and inaccurate when a black person does it.
Just weird stuff like that can really make you feel alienated
For those that are confused: he called the scene of the anime blackface, not the term Gyaru, aka the defense anime lovers tried to give to that scene of blackface
@eloquent•etiquette the thing is, the scene being referred is an anime girl literally trying to physically look like a black women by wearing blackface. If the gyaru fashion isnt necessarily blackface, in the context of that pic, that is blackface, though it could be argued that the scene in question isn't "minstrel show" blackface. The way black people are sometimes drawn in anime be rubbing me the wrong way though
You all there across the ocean need to learn that Blackface is something exclusive to America
I mean, if a black cosplayer would paint him/herself white that would not be an issue
I mean, if someone was cosplaying Megamind and painted himself blue, would that be "blue face" and racist somehow?
How is that any different with a different color, like black?
I understand the history of "blackface" in America is highly connected to racism agains black people, but it's just paint.
Get fucking over it, if someone wants to cosplay a black character, and paints him/herself black, thats just trying to be more faithfull to the original depiction
There is nothin inherently racist or bad in other way about it.
Such a cosplayer is not using the black pody paint to riducule black people, like blackface was used in America
They are trying to look more like a character, maybe even look more like your race, how is this seen as a negative those days, i will not understand.
@@Domel23 blackface isnt just an american issue my guy. Racism towards minorities is experienced everywhere especially since the world has been westernized to adopt american views. I'm asian and lives in east asia and i can confirm that hatred towards black people is widespread here. Whiteface (or whatever you call it) isnt an issue because theres no offensive stereotypes of white people and they were never oppressed to the point that they were laughing stocks just because theyre white. What are black people gonna do if they paint there face white, Pretend to be a cowboy?
“Hinata isn’t black”
She ain’t white either 💀
she aint asian either shes from a mytical world with aliens and chakra and wouldnt have a race that we would recognize being that she isnt from earth
@@stevebob2941 just from the fact that the creator of naruto is Japanese and the whole story uses an abundant amount of japanese culture including having all the character's names be Japanese - I think it's safe to say that they're all Japanese even if they are technically aliens.
@@rya_. they aren't Japanese since Japan doesn't exist in their world
@@stevebob2941 there are tons of stories that aren't based in the real world but still have atleast a culture that IS from the real world based in it. The characters all have Japanese names, drawn in a Japanese style. The houses they live in, the clothes they wear and the food they eat is ALL undeniably based off of Japanese culture. I really don't understand what point you're trying to make here though. Like yes it is in a fictional fantasy world but what has that got to do with the title of the video. Are you against or pro black cosplayers? Because there's literally no point in arguing w me if you are the latter.
@@rya_. they aren't Japanese tho because the country of Japan doesn't exist in those worlds
It really sucks to see racism in a community that's essentially dedicated to playing dress up.
it's literally dressing up as another character nobody will ever be the character is just acting like a character so someone's race shouldn't matter
Humans make everything complicated
It’s loser behavior, it shouldn’t be this deep.
Yeah it’s sad to see Green
I was literally thinking, imagine you’re in kindergarten and another kid says you can’t dress up as a certain character because your skin isn’t the same color 💀 it’s the same thing but worse now cause we’re freaking GROWN 😅
It's crazy how its mostly white people saying this but the characters they cosplay as are JAPANESE.
Because yt people still think they own everything
Ikr, AND characters like Miku is just a mascot and dont have a canon race. Yet yt neckbeards and their musty asses think theyre justified in bullying a black cosplayer for not being light skinned bruh.
Facts, I’ve seen DBZ cosplayers say this stuff, like… you’re cosplaying Goku… he’s part of an alien race….
FR
@@espeon871 Miku is actually canonically Japanese but I still 100% agree with your point.
"U ruined it because ur black" I swear people act like we can change our skin color they act like it's illegal for us to cosplay as our favorite character just because we have dark skin 💀
Tbh they are putting the clotting of said characters, including copying behavior etc. why not mimic them as accurately as possible
@@PoIarisPrime what does the clothing have to do with skin tone rn
@@godishloves Cause it don’t look like the character they are literally trying to act like that one! It doesn’t show support, it shows ignorant disrespect. Trust me, just make a decently written interesting OC and make it that they know some of the characters or something. Buy merchandise of the character. Maybe I’m looking into it too seriously but that’s what cosplay is to me
@@PoIarisPrime a lot of people have different opinions and takes on cosplays and I think I understand what your opinion on it is? But really cosplaying is just dressing up, playing pretend but being older doing so. It doesn’t have to be perfect unless your very into cosplaying which isn’t really a problem until you expect everyone to be that way, people cosplay to be closer to the character or just to look like them out of awe so it doesn’t have to be perfect at all! 😅 but people can’t change their skin tone in a non unhealthy way so I don’t really get what the costume accuracy has to do with that but, thanks for sharing your thoughts on it though I agree with alot of things you said about cosplaying !
@@godishloves Guess you’re right on that then. Some people just think like me, but that doesn’t give them the right to harass those cosplayers either way. I guess cosplaying either way regardless of your skin tone or gender doesn’t matter
"That character isn't black..." says the guy/gal who have ZERO problems seeing other white people cosplaying Japanese anime characters lol
Thank you!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It's only because they're racist and have racial double standards.
those are the sae bitches who are white as mayonnaise wanting to name themselves sakura or mochi or some shit
Ikr?
Ngl constantly getting called “Nigga Tanjiro” and “Nega Scott” (You’re not fucking slick with this one) is annoying as shit but I try my best to not let it damper my enjoyment and overall passion for cosplay. It’s such a fun thing to do even if it can get a bit pricey. I just love dressing up as my favorite characters, sometimes putting my own spin on them, interacting with other cosplayers and also getting pictures.
It’s a unique experience but yeah, the racism that black cosplayers like me face is unquestionably disgusting.
I'm so sorry to hear about those experiences, but I'm glad you still enjoy cosplaying despite all that. Even though I'm Hispanic, I don't get any crap for my cosplays because of my very light skin tone (somehow whiter than white), but I hate seeing others be put down simply because the character "isn't black" as if that matters in a community about dressing up as characters we enjoy. Also do you post your cosplays anywhere? I'd definitely love to follow you to see your cosplays!
Scott who?
@@Anansi1701 "Nega Scott" is from Scott Pilgrim
@@alchemystudios846 Thanks for the kind words! It won’t let me tell you my socials for some reason so try and take a look at my channel’s links instead!
@@lasseheller9863 thanks, I thought he cosplayed Cyclops from the X-Men. He'd be a character that I wouldn't mind seeing played by a guy of color seeing as how the whole point of the X-Men was a commentary on bigotry. Take Scott back to the clean boy-next-door and make him something other than a white guy. Those are my thoughts though, take them or leave them. Fact Fiend made a compelling case for Professor X and Magneto to be played by men of color.
"X character isnt black tho"
"Yeah you're right lemme decrease my melanin levels real quick"
Funny thing they arent white either...the irony
@@Yamisaru what's funnier is that they aren't real
@@Yamisaru white people take anything as imminent domain if they like it lmao
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow because they seen themselves as the default so much that for them it's normal, obviously it's a slightly minority
@InitialSven It shouldn't matter they're fictional characters
when people say they like “dark humor” 50% of the time they just racist, you get a subscription for calling all this out 👍
For real! And they're all like "well your just a snowflake getting triggered by a joke" No bitch, you're just racist and not funny.
Fr
I make race jokes all the time from Asians to African Americans, anyone and everyone gets a slice and that includes the bleached money's known as white people or Caucasians or whatever we are
Plus those ppl really ruin that whole type of humor. Dark humor can be fucking hilarious but it takes alot of tact and technique with situational/social awareness to pull off right. These "Dark Humor™️" types are just shouting "hehe blak eat chicken banana😂😂. Asian wing Wong wice hehe😂😂"
It's not only offensive but so fucking boring and creatively bankrupt. It takes all the talent in actual dark humor.
@@justcallmekai1554 well excuse me Mr Sophisticated next time I call my friend a monkey, I'll call em a jungle bunny instead
When a white person cosplays an Asian character it's fine but when a black person does it it isn't? Like how does that make sense
I wish I could upvote a million times. Just cuz the character's skin in light doesn't mean they are white, I don't understand white people trying to insert themselves in this way. It's white savior and gatekeeping bullshit, as if they are the 'authority' to decide who is worthy.
Their inner white master mindset is jumping out
Literally like make it make sense
I think it’s terrible honestly, I’ve seen great cosplayers who aren’t same skin tone as the character and they cosplay phenomenal,especially from the Guilty gear cosplays. If i could remember a woman cosplayed as elphelt valentine and she was a person of color and it was fucking amazing, some others with Ky kiske and Jack O. I think its great this is being brought up but I think it’s a bad idea to go on the offensive and make fun of different races which could be associated with the groups who ridicule people of color when cosplaying because to be honest it’s snooping to there level and makes the pretty important message get foggy
Racism truly is illogical
"Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying." - Terry Pratchett
YES YES punch up not down
god i love discworld
@@safir2241 same discworld is my favourite book series, I love Terry Pratchett
Pterry is among the top 10 human beings ever
Uh huh.
It’s crazy that a white dude can dress up as Sasuke and not get called out but as soon as a black woman dresses up as Hinata it “doesn’t work”. Like, people just wanna dress up as their favorite characters and have a good time. Any race can cosplay any character as long as it’s tastefully done. Let’s all just be excellent to eachother fr.
My comment got deleted. I didn't even swear. Bruh.
Agreed
That’s just common sense
My favorite is when black women cosplay starfire and people try to say that shit even though the original starfire was black coded as hell
@@zerothepanda02 She was? Like, in the comics?
"Black people can't cosplay as asian characters."
Translates to
"White can't cosplay as asian characters."
Which translates to
"You can't cosplay as Aang from Avatar the Last Air Bender unless you are a Tibetan Monk."
Which defeats the purpose of cosplay.
But, eh, logic won't defeat this. This comes from a lack of empathy and people on the internet never facing consequences.
Not to get off topic, but the wat so many people thought the Avatar characters were White, bothers me. Like, the Asian culture and influence is so in your face, and when it was outed that the characters were all in fact Asian, people STILL refused to acknowledge that they weren't White. To the point that they would insult realistic artwork that draws them accurately. The entitlement.
@@BratzRockAngels
Unfortunately, my best friend insists Aang and Toph are white, even when I explain that they're from Asian inspired cultures.
Side comment- I kinda wish some folks understood that Asians do indeed come in our complexion and just because a character isn't light skinned doesn't mean they are black.
Southeast Asian countries come to mind.
It’s surprising how ignorant some people are...
Also remember when Superalloy Darkshine's name in One Punch Man was changed to Blackluster because some people thought it's somehow offensive? But later on it turned out he is not black at all in a flashback scene LOL. He is just a parody of bodybuilders.
Tell that to the people who wanted the bunny hero my my hero academia to he voiced by a black women because they automatically thought she was a black women. There are naturally tan Japanese people people out there. Asian people on general other than Indians (although I've met Indians who don't like getting called Asians)
Exactly
It’s completely disgusting the level of racism the black cosplay community has faced. Cosplay should be for everyone, no matter their skin tone, because cosplay should be a joyous thing to share! And black and brown cosplayers are doing amazing, they need more love!
I agree i fully support them as a Japanese person!! its lovely seeing their take on the character
im still disgusted about this cosplaying is not about your race, weight, age, ore height, cosplay is just for fun and people that say people of color cant cosplay anime characters then you should also say it too white people because most anime characters are asian
@@FunWithColeen As a Black Japanese person same here
@Dante Toshiro64 It's about the effort and having fun. Imagine shaming people for not looking like a character when cosplay is literally just dress up. People are getting too comfortable.
@@commanderoom-9269 Please if you had any power to do that, trolling would be the last thing to do on your list, but you have a wild imagination.
This is completely real and a widespread issue, I'm Mexican and I'm always afraid that if I make cosplay people would bully me for my skin tone, even in local conventions, I've seen it happen and girls get the worst treatment when it comes to cosplay.
I also catch myself being judgemental in the same way, so I think it's an internalized issue due to the normalization of racism in the community.
Thanks for sharing this with us! I'm also sorry you have to deal with thoughts in relation to your worries about cosplay because things like racism and discrimination can sometimes remove the joy from it.
I can be very difficult to not also harbor similar thoughts and a judgmental mindset in a culture that constantly feeds it to us. I have found myself holding certain prejudices that I'm blessed I've became aware of so I can address the issue, and its good you realized your judgement as well. The hope is to recognize our flaws and errors and work on them not indulge in them.
@@dominque4180 That was actually pretty... Profound. I applaud you 👏
Very similar feelings on the internalization aspect. I am ethnically Indian and from the US and I find it hard to let myself cosplay (or dress up for halloween) unless the character I'm cosplaying has a similar skin tone to me. I think it's me trying to avoid anyone looking at me and seeing me as 'a joke' because I already feel somewhat vulnerable in cosplay. Part of this is that I'm trans, and that's a whole other layer. But also, I feel this when I have no reason to think the people around me would harass or bully me. At costume parties with just close friends or other more intimate events, I still find myself avoiding dressing as light skinned characters because somewhere in my head I've started to believe it too, even if I don't consciously apply this to others.
Se me hace horrible porque veo que en lugar de haber mejorado con esto de la cultura de la positividad del cuerpo, ha empeorado.
Antes a pocos les importaba si no te veías exactamente igual que el personaje, entendían que una convención no va a estar llena de puros modelos solamente para verse exactamente igual que los personajes. Pero ahora si alguien hace un cosplay de Jojo's y no está suficientemente mamado se ponen a crítica aunque nadie puede estar así meterse esteroides.
También antes esa crema blanca nieves que en realidad es como un maquillaje blanco era muy mal vista a menos que fuera un cosplay de vampiro o de albino. Ahora si no te pones esa crema aunque ya tengas la piel blanca no es un cosplay "completo" y hay muchas mujeres que la usan de siempre que porque la usan las coreanas.
También antes no molestaban tanto por hacer cosplay de un personaje del que no te pareces tanto si no es para cierto tipo de concursos. Ahora bullying tremendo que les hacen si no se ven iguales que el personaje, conozco gente que se obsesiona revisando tablas de altura, peso, tamaño de pechos de personajes para saber si pueden hacer un "cosplay fiable" de ellos.
Lo más idiota de todo es que ese tipo de gente nunca llega al World Cosplay Summit y los que llegan odian esa actitud.
Aunque tristemente llegar a ese concurso de prestigio mundial no siempre es lo que da más vistas en redes, muchas veces el escandaloso bueno para nada que busca quien lo fune es el que tiene movimientos en redes.
Tbh if poc can’t cosplay anime characters with lighter skin tones then white people can’t cosplay Asian characters aka most of anime characters.
Can’t even draw yourself as a character without getting the same comments. There was a RUclipsr who drew herself, a black woman, as Kiki. She drew herself in the outfit and on a broom like Kiki. And she got slammed with racial slurs, comments, and even racist art based on her drawing.
Thumin is the artist you're talking about. It got so bad that she had to leave the internet for a while and was severely depressed. That's how horrible this whole thing is.
I'm assuming you're talking about Thumin, I have NO idea why you can't even DRAW yourself anymore 😔
@@_cludy_2210 Cuz racist nerds exist
Well if they bash on you for drawing yourself that is pretty dumb since it’s literally your own self as a character wouldn’t see the issue
its even worse that theres actually some brainwashed washed artists hoping on this black edits/versions of characters are racist
I don't care what anyone says. The one black guy dressed up as dante at every anime convention is 100% going to be the coolest guy you talk to that night.
Smt dante looks like a black
@@jasiade9461 a what? 🤨
Shin megami tensei dante looks a little black because of the ps2 graphics
Anything taken by white people ends up being a racist community let's be real
@@SC-pg7jr stop being racist.
Honestly, it’s really nice when people cosplay. Regardless of race or gender. ^^
Fr
I'll pull up as black male Ohako Uraraka. I do not care what people think
@@BitchChill facts im pulling up as black Himeno idfc what anyone says
@@darklightss_ I haven't seen or read chainsaw man
@@BitchChill its good I recommend, but it has gore so 😰
Being Black and having nerdy hobbies has required me to have a level of not-give-a-fuckness that I couldn't have even imagined in my teens.
Honestly same
Frrrr
Did you cosplay mr. Popo
@@bort_hill Did you cosplay Jeffrey Epstein?
@@lovelyheart3785 why don't you cosplay as someone with something interesting to talk about
*"Raven isn't Black"* my brother in Christ she is gray...
its even worse when they say Starfire isnt black when she's no lighter than orange.
“Hinata isn’t black”
Me: she damn sure ain’t white.
Looks pretty white to me😂. Ngl i woudln't recognize a Hinata cosplay if the cosplayer is black. But same on the other side. I wanna see a Biscuit Olivier cosplay and I want that to be a black cosplayer.😂
@@Marty-im8qb I would assume more Asian than white.
Hinata is Japanese so not white
@@KallusGarnet Hinata isn't real. It doesn't matter what race bruh let people cosplay who they wanna cosplay it doesn't make any character any more real.
@@flyby1629 it does because white people love to claim everything
"hinata isnt a monkey"
knowing someone said this to a black cosplayer makes me feel violent.
Makes me feel like kicking that someone in the throat
Fr. I legit hate this stereotype. It's so dehumanizing and painfully unfunny. The fact that people will degrade us in this way just because of our skin tone or even if we dare to express an unplesant emotion everyone feels such as anger. That we're inherently animalistic, it's sickening to me.
Try living it. We have seen and heard worse.
Good be triggered
@@BrandoNoCaps And get knocked out
I remember seeing this poor girl get racist messages about Nezuko not being black and when she retaliated that she isn't white either, they said that "At least she doesn't look like a Hard R N Word" and I just couldn't believe how many people were claiming that, that was just dark humor. I still can't believe it a year later. What an awful thing to say.
Wtf… yeah it sucks like I literally saw a cosplay of a white woman doing a cosplay of a dark skinned character (Angie from danganronpa) and all the comments were PRAISING her. But I’ve seen so many posts where black people cosplay a non black character and they’re just flooded with pure hate :/
It’s crazy how people will see whitewashed fanart of a dark skinned character and just think it’s okay, too. Like do people really hate black people that much :/
@@snekgewehr I dont cosider that white washing especially in cosplaying terms, when your drawing and you turn a black character white then that's white washing, but it's impossible to white wash if it's something you cant control like, if I were to cosplay as Tanjiro it would be blackwashing cuz I'm black and Tanjiro isn't.
If you like to cosplay as any character you, and it isn't white washing, black washing, or any type of washing because you can't control it, but i do agree with you.
fuck, you said fanart, everything I said was invalid
I mean someone just wants to deers up as Nezuko cause people can't ruin a chracter
bruhhh. dark humor is NOT that. I can't believe there are people who would say something so horrible.
“Racism will die out”
Racism now a days: You can only cosplay your own skin
something i also noticed is when people make headcanons about japanese anime characters being european/half european it's completely ok, but when someone makes headcanons about them being blasian (or even dark skinned asians. suprise! asian people can have many skin colors other than white) apparently it's not ok and 'black washing'?
Period bestie, drag them 👏
Exactly 😂🤦♀️
This reminds me of when they cast a dark skinned actress to play Mileena from Mortal Kombat, cue people claim how "everything is being black washed."
Mind you, there are literally only six black characters in Mortal Kombat, out of seventy seven. One of them is a guest character, two of them were recently created, another was in only one game from 14 years ago and the last one was confirmed to be African ten years ago
@@TupocalypseShakur That's because how people see Mileena and honestly older Kitana as Hispanic yet they're supposed to be twins outside of face.
@@ExeErdna hispanic isn’t even a race that’s the silly part
WWB: Walking while Black
DWB: Driving while black
CWB: Cosplaying while Black
We face alotta flack for just existing
I guess you could say we get flack...for being black....sorry that wasn't funny
EWB - Existing while black
(Imma leave rn)
@@astral-from-afar Good one
@Janeiro I found the racist
@Janeiro I Unless you have personally experienced the day-to-day life of being a black person and all the social and systemic government drawbacks there are being black (and there are a lot of them, many that persist to this day), you don't have a goddamn thing to say-telling people to "suck it up. It's not that bad. It's not like you're getting tarred, feathered, and lynched like back in the day (even though there are records of that still happening, it's just not being widely broadcasted on the public news)" FOH with that shit.
holy shit people really get on each other for cosplay, imagine gate keeping dressing up as fictional characters 😂
what about black face?
@@noone3367 bro
@@noone3367 black face and cosplaying are two completely different things
@@payt00n nope
@@noone3367 🤨, tf u mean nope, gonna explain how they arnt?
Black people are drawn so inaccurately and unflattering in anime that it can actually taint my view of an otherwise good anime
(I originally put POC instead of black people and a kind stranger in the replies corrected me)
That's because most Japanese are xenophobic
… can you just say Black People are drawn inaccurately in anime cuzzz Japanese ppl are POC😵💫
@@van.f1087 oh yeah I'll edit that. My apologies
@@rainbowwigglecactus6605 absolutely no apologies needed🤙
They really be giving us the stereotypical nigga lips bruh why they look like a fish 😔
"Raven isnt black"
I mean she aint white even shes gray lmao
and is half demon she technically doesn't really have a race either, her mom is white I think but still
Actually she's red, has four eyes, cloven hooves and antlers
I love how someone will say raven isn't black but she isn't white either
@@TupocalypseShakur lol there u go thx for the info
@@s.m815 demon and human are races
And to think, we had to make our own community because, back then, you rarely ever had black people like anime or pop culture for fear of being called an oreo and white people wouldn't even accept you all that much for liking anime. So when we make a community for our niche, it immediately gets put under fire and, worse case scenario, have us suspended or doxxed. I remembered in a Fire Emblem zine I was part of, there was one too many people that were offended that there was a zine for POC creators (mainly Black creators) and the site kept getting reported. It's weirdo obsessive behavior
feels like a lesser form of the impulse that fuels the clan's terror campaigns. As in, this group are minding their own business, but doing too well, time to literally bomb them out of existence. Just this was in an online way by trying to get the site shut down.
we have no safe spaces 😐
Idk why they're so obsessed, like, mind ur own business- you're the ones that put us here???
They reallu said "get your own space" and tjen immediately invaded said space to harrass everyone there
Wtf why are they pissed at that? Bruh fandom spaces are supposed to be inclusive and basically safe spaces so why are idiots unhappy that people who feel unwelcome in normal fandom spaces and made their own space in the fandom? Wtf racism does a number on people i swear bruh not like the zine is hurting people in fact it’s helping the fanbase because it makes it more welcoming.
to be honest being a black person into anime is so draining especially online, im always seeing people put down black cosplayers, calling us slurs/derogatory terms. that one black hinata cosplayer situation is just so sad and disappointing.
edit: after watching the whole video, im so glad another black creator with a pretty large platform is talking about this, i’ve been watching you for a good year and a half and this video just made me appreciate you more. Keep up the good work man
To be honest, being black in ANY fandom is exhausting. We can't catch a break anywhere. And then they try to get upset and dox us when we create our own circles after they pushed us out.
The hinata person had to delete Tiktok and most of their sm because of those hate comments, I feel disgusted and horrible about them
@@hope3290 fandoms be anti-blk for no reason like what did we do to yall
@@Syndersis We exist and they somehow have a problem with that. I'm into Formula 1, and the hate that I see Lewis Hamilton, the only Black driver on the grid, gets, is so appalling. And if you call it out, people are going to deem you "too sensitive".
I agree.... I so much agree.
i'm a 15yr old girl and i'm black and wanna cosplay when i get a little older , because i love anime and video games , but then i see things like the things in this video , and it makes me sad and think twice about cosplying :(
nothing to be scared of people who will get mad at you are just ignorant and will always be ignorant. You shouldn't try to hide something you think you will enjoy doing because people will hate on you no matter what you do. Do whatever you love
im 16 and male and i feel the same. i wanna cosplay as gintoki or one piece characters. but i cant
I'm a 15 Year old Black guy, don't be worried, those Bleached maggots try to get anything Black thrown into a dumpster, I've delt with them multiple times and the best way to make them back off is to Throw them off course with they're own words.
there will always be someone out there who doesnt like what you do, so why bother trying to please them? just do what makes you happy and ignore whoever tells you you cant. it aint hurting anybody.
Good 🗿
For those who want to say, "that character isn't black", I'll say the Japanese aren't born with purple and blonde hair with big eyes either fool. Live your life.
But black is a race and japanese is a ethnicity....they can't be mixed up...
@@satavishadas1931 there are Black Japanese soo what do you kean by it cant mixed. White is a race and Japanese is an ethnicity so they cant mix either than.
The hell is a race? We ain't dogs lmao, Americans really need to snap back into reality.
@@satavishadas1931 race isn't even real and not an accurate presentation of human diversity. Ethnicity is. Also point still holds not Japanese person has naturally red eyes or purple hair etc. These characters aren't real an proper representations to begin with so it shouldn't be a problem for anyone to dress up as them for fun.
@@satavishadas1931 there both races what are u on about?
Those who keep saying "It just the internet", it usually means "I refuse to own up to my terrible actions" instead of "it just satire, you're just sensitive".
Wtf do you want people to do ? Boo hoo. People are racist on the internet.... Okay.. The best thing you can do is report it
@@oluwahefner4194 i wouldn’t say reporting would be the best thing because a lot of time it doesn’t work. i believe spreading awareness of the problem and constantly condemning shitty actions would be better. Cause it can teach people some decency and other things.
kinda like how big youtubers its better to tag youtube on twitter then to just go through support
@@groovyllicious yea thats fine. But simply spreading awareness and condemning it does nothing in the grand scheme of things. Action has to be taken. Look at any social movement or fight against discriminatory acts like stop asian hate or black lives matter. Just saying those phrases does nothing, action had to be taken
I also don’t get the hypocrisy in the anime community. No one bats an eye when you change an anime boy’s gender to a girl, but once you draw them as a different race everyone goes batshit crazy.
Most people are just closet racists. They try to hide it behind some reason or it's because it's not true to the source material but it's all just bs. They just don't like people that aren't white/fair skinned doing cosplay.
These guys are throwing a lot of shit for people who are essentially playing glorified dress up lol.
Facts 💯🤦♀️🤦♀️
It’s mostly because there is not much representation for dark skinned anime characters so if you make one of them light skinned people get pissy, but it shouldn’t be a problem if you changed a light skin tone to a darker skin tone
You mean like the Nessa debacle of dozens of crazy people going for an illustrator throat case lightning make her a little more light skinned? Something like that.
People hide behind "dark humor" so much and its crazy.
I remember when I first got into cosplay, I was told I couldn’t cosplay a lot of characters because I’m Chicano, and I have darker colored skin. Now, seeing other dark skinned cosplayers, I feel a lot more comfortable and happier with whoever I’m cosplaying :)
What I hate is that TikTok let's a white cosplayer who murdered her friend still have a platform but I've seen black cosplayers get hidden and banned for absolute nothing. I've seen a black cosplayer get banned just for cosplaying Chucky.
source? that sounds nuts!
@@RengokuGS About the Cosplayer who killed her friend or the cosplayer who got banned ? Cause the Cosplayer who killed her friend used to go by snowsaltqueen but after getting found out for the murder, her name is now yanderefreakshow and she's so disgusting and is basically capitalizing on her friend's death but still has fans and followers because she's an attractive white woman. There's videos about her everywhere.
@@massacresoldier3082 link to a video you'd recommend? This is so insane and is like the end of this video where he says that white cishet predators are not removed from the platform
@@RengokuGS here's one, there's a lot more but this is the top result ruclips.net/video/bNYTq7zCnUQ/видео.html
@@massacresoldier3082 thank you!
Im a white cosplayer whos been cosplaying for two years with mostly closet cosplays and I'm not great at styling wigs to look like the characters. Most characters I cosplay aren't white and yet I have never EVER been told the character isn't my race so I can't cosplay them or that I don't look like the character, I have seen black cosplayers who have made the full outfit down the tiniest details for an anime character and without fail if this post gets any traction they will get comments calling them "uncanon" or not a good fit for the character.
Theres also issues with people doing blackface for darker skinned characters and then whining about how "black people cosplay white characters so I should get to do blackface" as if thats comparable in anyway or that they don't have the option to just, cosplay the character without changing their skin. Nero hellsing on tiktok and Instagram did this reccently and has since deleted his vids but no apology has been made
@@ronaldreaganhater6982 i agree.
@@ronaldreaganhater6982 I've seen light skinned to white people get flak for getting a tan and cosplaying as "blackfishing" which to me is just as asinine as people getting at anybody with mid tone to dark brown skin as "bad character cosplay"
If the first thing that comes out of their mouth is OMG this isn't good cosplay because of your skin color that's a shitty person.
I think tiktok is racist
@@LittleSparklingStars Heavy on the racist… This is why I am not using Tik Tok💯
People need to realize that you can’t just change your race.
Just go to settings
@@Jotarokun2233 why u make me laff tho
@@Jotarokun2233bro got that codes💀
i swear most of the white kids in the anime fandoms are like a type of Karen/Ken that hasn't been identified yet.
They’re…. BRAYDENS AND BRAYLENS
Karen-chan?~
Literally and probably would grow up to be those neckbeards who lose their mind at a diverse show’s cast
@@espeon871 more like a flipped one were instead of being mad that the show is diverse, their mad cause "the women's bodies aren't natural and are harmful for children" or try to play the ally card-
It's in the making. They have not yet come out of their bigoted coccoon. They could escape their fate if they are taught otherwise but that is certainly Hard to achieve.
"Hinata isn't black"
Hinata isn't even real.
So cry harder.
hinata aint white either
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 she aint asian either it aint this earth they dont have a race that we would classify.
@@stevebob2941 p sure its set in japan but ok
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 Hinata is literally a Japanese name too so....
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 its not set in japan its set in a different world with aliens and Chakra
can we just take a moment to talk about the fact that he's rocking that kill la kill cosplay. that shit is beautiful
Rocking all of the cosplays, needed a montage.
Lol Lowkey not gonna lie 👍
i mean sailor uniform is cool and all, but I for one want to see more dudes doing the battle form, edit: just saw the femboy outfit, i am happy now
@@spazzygenius148 lol your a Gem 🤣
king shit
Internet: this anime character isn't black
Me: they're not white either, they're japenese but ya'll don't complain about it so please leave .it's a cosplay. They're just dressing up as the character .let them do so in peace.
This! Like why can't we dress up as characters without getting shitted bc of our race
how is a community full of outcasts still judgmental.
Damn, you said it right.
Gotta always have someone lower than you in the world, if not then you are on the bottom and nobody wants to be on the bottom. That is their mindset, even tho it doesn't make sense.
LOL these types are the worst that's why they outcast to begin with.
The gatekeep mentality is something serious.
lol damn right
It’s literally just racism, we already know anyone can cosplay whatever. Unless you’re painting your skin a different skin color, there shouldn’t be a problem. 💀 They don’t even have to be human characters either.
And the cosplays be SO good too, the ones I’ve seen. They only have this energy for black and/or darkskin people.
I feel like skin painting is fine for nonhuman characters with skin colors like blue or whatever. Anything short of that is just gross.
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf I was very surprised by the garnet one. she’s literally purple sometimes but they chose brown. made me uncomfortable.
@@pheonixrises11 its like a purplish brown.
This happened when I cosplayed Nezuko. Everyone was like it doesn't work, you're Indian. I was like... why does it matter. It's for fun, and there aren't many Indian characters to cosplay anyway
Aww, I bet you looked great!
@@ojyochan Thanks! It was an ok cosplay but what matters is people have fun doing it!
You probably looked amazing! Theres actually a gorgeous and really cool indian anime character in Im Standing On 10000 lives. Though she doesnt get much screen time…*sigh*
People are so stupid
I would tell that person "well neither are you Japanese but you cosplay as one... bitch"
those who hates black people cosplaying as their favorite anime characters despite their skin color are just jealous because how good it actually look like. for all black cosplayers out there, stay cosplaying as any anime characters that y'all like.
Ain't that the truth
👍🏿
I disagree on this but my personal view on cosplay doesn't align with the idea of cosplay only being about the quality of the outfit.
I dont care for cosplay at all unless the cosplay looks uncannily like the character. Like its brought to life.
So while I won't be racist towards a black person cosplaying as a non black character, I also won't acknowledge them and just instead scroll passed.
I prioritize the likeness of the cosplayers face over the outfit because anyone with enough talent or disposable time and income can put together a very nice cosplay outfit, it takes sheer genetic luck, coincidence and some skill to pull off a convincing portrait of a character.
The outfit just completes the look.
People that go out of their way to attack black cosplayers are a problem. But some people have different reasons for liking cosplay, and they shouldn't have to pretend a cosplay is good to them if it doesn't meet their personal taste or reasoning for liking cosplay.
Simply put, I don't care at all for the process, creativity, creation, enginuity, design or piecing together of a cosplay. I am not passionately interested in the hobby.
I just care about real people looking EXACTLY like the characters they're cosplaying because that's the part I find cool. Bringing something fictional to life.
Fuck'em
@@trevorveillette8415I second this Fr (I’m black)
Black hair needs to be celebrated more.
Especially black women hair ngl.
On me
Ong 👏
On black people... I remember that story about someone getting in trouble for having braids because they thought she was emulating Bo Derek... the woman was black.
Fucking beautiful tbh
Internet be killing my faith in humanity on the daily, rlly feels like some people never grew up past middle school :/
I had the same thoughts too about this. ://
Some of this people might be actual middle schoolers
We know who's killing the internet lol.
I remember talking to someone and talking about cosplay. I asked them if they wanted to cosplay Nezuko while I was Tanjiro. They said “oh well, I’d love too- but I don’t want to because I don’t want people telling me that she isn’t black. You should find someone else to cosplay with you.”
I was heartbroken because theyre so pretty and really wanted to cosplay Nezuko. But they were scared of the racism. I think about it sometimes and each time I just get sad.
For real? Man that is soo fucked up
White savior moment
@@pliskin5161 Way to see empathy and twist it. I assume you're not invited to many parties. Hell, what am I saying, you probably don't even know what it's like to have fun.
@@pliskin5161 Do you know their race or are you just assuming?
That is an honest question.
Either way, you should be allowed to sympathize with people outside of your race
@@pliskin5161 that's not what a white savior is, please educate yourself
honestly, let's start telling white cosplayers that they ruin the cosplay bc they're not asian.
Fr!
I’m sorry but I’m so sick of it man
As brown kid who enjoys cosplaying I personally have never really encountered this issue before, but the fact that there are people that get triggered at those who would cosplay as their favorite characters even when they don’t remotely look at them is majorly messed up and definitely needs to stop.
Is the same kind of person that will jump to bring chaos and destruction cause of knowing jack-merde about drawings being lighter like what happened with Miruko (MHA) and Nessa (Pokemon) just people not truly enjoying the material or community just wanting project crappy views to the world.
glad you've never encountered this
No offense but black and brown people don’t go through the same issues.
@@alayahuddleston4897 very similar issues.
@@francisconavarrete2390 no not at all.
uploading this while im comforting my black best friend here at an anime convention bc a grown ass man who told her shit over her cosplay. u are a psychic
Oh god... it happens irl too?
@@NerdMiGerd definitely not as much but when it's an ancient neckbeard who never leaves his room from the looks of it, there's a good chance he's openly racist
@@ditzyblues Yeah that sounds about right. I went to a convention in DC last summer when I was visiting family. Luckily, people were pretty chill over there. But, at the same time, there weren't a whole lot of black cosplayers there.
Except for, like, one guy I remember who was dressed as Asta, which was pretty cool to see as a Black Clover fan
Well screw that guy! I bet your friends cosplay was awesome.
@@NerdMiGerd yes it does
As a Japanese person, the thought that white people perceive a lot of anime characters to be white never occurred to me until very recently. A lot of times in anime when a foreigner or white person is shown, they're depicted with stereotypically accented speech/butchered Japanese, big noses, and a defined brow ridge. Not saying I agree with those depictions but I've always thought because of those distinctions, the standard characters were all Japanese.
It really just depends on what the creator wants to portray. Many anime characters are intentionally made to look more White - Naruto for example, Kishimoto himself said that if it was live action series he should be "American" due to his blonde hair and blue eyes (I'm guessing thinks every white american looks like Chris Evans). It's a thing that in the US people call "Coding", where basically something that looks or behaves a certain way is meant to be representative of something or some group of people, even if they don't actually look like it, although a lot of the times it's something that more or less only exists in fan interpretation (ie Many Black Americans claim Piccolo from Dragon Ball is black because his personality and attitude is similar to many adult black dudes, despite the fact that he's not even human and is green).
@@strawberrie6491 People claim that Knuckles from the Sonic series is black too
@@strawberrie6491 He hangs around in Aztec ruins, art turns his hair into dreads, lots of other things. It was big on Twitter for a bit, i tuned in to watch the arguments
@@BIadelores Lowkey not gonna lie not the first time I heard the piccolo part 🤣 Made me breakout lmao.
@@MammalianCreature well he's red so I don't see the problems.
It's turning characters human.
If they have and unnatural skin color and are an animal you can turn the human and make them any color you want.
even as a white person i think its unfair how black people are treated in cosplay
I think anyone can cosplay, whoever they want, regardless of race or gender. It's so stupid that people can't just let people of colour dress in whatever costume for whichever character they like. And what I find even more stupid is that I've seen people praise a white man dressing as 2B (without the skirt) or Sailor Moon. I've seen/follow black cosplayers and I only think two/three things: "They look amazing, they are beautiful, I wish I had the confidence to wear that." That's all, but that can be said for any cosplayer because that's what I think.
The people going off about saying a character is white, correction, about 90% of anime characters are Japanese, so if we go from that logic, they aren't white either. And before people go off and say that Japanese aren't black, look up Naomi Osaka, a JAPANESE BLACK tennis player. So that argument holds no water, black people exist/are born in Japan, they're not made of magic. (Also, yes I know he mentioned the race thing but it's still bringing it up again, and again to hammer that home) Just let people cosplay who they want to cosplay.
Apologize for the tangent, I just find it so dumb that black cosplayers deal with this crap.
Also, you pull that Kill La Kill cosplay off really well, nice legs.
Naomi is one of my inspirations as a half black half Japanese raised in Japan
I haven’t even watched the video yet but honestly I feel like I’m about to agree with everything because being black and cosplaying any character is a interesting experience
Same
This is why i only really desire to cosplay masked characters so nobody can see my face
I always still feel bad cause i had a cool teacher and she knew how much i love anime and cartoons and junk asked how come I don’t ever want to cosplay (because she’s a cosplayer)
At the time i gave no answer but nowadays i know the real answer was just “cause i’m black.”
I know black people can cosplay anything, i just don’t have the patience or stability to deal with the ridicule if anyone caught me cosplaying an anime character like goku or some shit 😭😭😭
@@theradionicrevival8068 that sucks, hope you get to do the cosplays you want to without fear of ridicule or racism, stuff like this really puts into perspective why the furry community is so popular considering it's basically just bringing the anonymity of the internet into an irl social event or group
I wonder is it racist for white girls to cosplay as Asian male characters aswell hmm people complain about anything on the internet like let people be themselves like if you gonna talk about someone else for doing something u see as wrong cause your racist u might aswell talk about other folks that's doing the same as them and isn't Asian aswell
@@deondrex18k hey I’m not quite sure about what point your making could you repeat it a little different
I’m pretty sure most Japanese people would not care if a black person cosplays an anime character. It’s always people that aren’t even Japanese that have a problem with it for whatever reason.
Well unfortunately Japanese people are also very colorist and dated in views of race but like I don't think a grown Japanese man would care about a bunch of teens in general dressing up as tv characters.
white saviors be like:
PLS asia is more racist than u think bro
There's racists everywhere
Umm no asians fetishize white skin. They value white ppl more sadly
As a black person, i really wanna join the cosplay community but im scared of these comments 😭
Man im brown as a Hershey. I go to conventions. Aint no one says this irl, it's just losers online
@@Mavuika_Gyaru oh yay
I met a Deku cosplayer who is black that from the latest season which he became Dark Deku or Vigilante Deku
average fans don't realize how much racism there is in the anime community. it's nasty. that, combined with the issue of oversexualizing underaged characters, I don't publically say I watch anime often. there are just some people I don't want to be lumped into a community with.
I can relate to that last part.
Amen
THIS. I completely understand this, I get wanting to showcase love and appreciation for your favourite characters but the amount of anime stans who are into the sexualisation of literal MINOR characters is extremely disturbing...😨😰
I myself didn’t see it till I went to check out Iansan’s wiki page, a future Genshin character. Her name is literally Iansan, and since the Natlan is based off South America, she is clearly Afro-Brazilian coded, but people were really pulling all the mental gymnastics to argue that she wasn’t black.
I just wanted to watch anime ;(
What annoys me the most is that most of the time those racist comments are often done off-handedly, meaning right after they click "send", they just scroll away living their close-minded ways, thinking they did "haha, i'm funny". Saw this a lot on twitter and twitch.
Everything isnt racist pointing out that someone isnt black isnt inherently racist. and aside from that you are taking a small minority and suggesting its the majority of people,
@@stevebob2941 Oh shut up..
@@stevebob2941 The fact that you even decided to type this proves this guys point. We know that the character isn't black, anyone with god damn eyes can see that. So, why even decided to type that out in the first place, what did it even accomplish? Just think about it. You told a black cosplayer that's just having fun, their character doesn't have the same colour as them and for what reason? No normal person would just say that and not feel some type of way about that persons skin colour, because if you didn't you wouldn't care about the fact the character isn't back and would just say something positive. Its not that serious, anime characters are not white and people don't say shit about that when white people cosplay as anime characters. Maybe it's not always racist, but It's is and always will be a rude, hurtful, and an obnoxious double standard.
@@TheRoyalPharaoh23 Pointing out that someone isnt black isnt rude its just a statement of fact, Im sure you have clear problems with the fact that some people call it black face or white washing to cosplay a non white character as well then? or do you have double standards and only care when its black people?
@@stevebob2941 Actually, no. I don’t give two fucks if a someone of any colour wants to cosplay as a any character of any colour. I would be a hypocrite if I thought otherwise. Cosplaying is a celebration of people honoring their favorite shows that may or may not impacted their lives, it’s for everyone. Like the gentleman in the video I have seen other black people be under attack specifically when cosplaying characters come up and it’s gets tiring for people to always bring race into this when we just want to have fun.
Also, You don’t seem to understand context to well. Your right in the sense of pointing out the fact that someone black is a factual statement. However, in the context of someone cosplaying and you pointing that out that “their black” which means 90% of the time their implying the character your cosplaying isn’t black, so you shouldn’t be doing it, that’s rude.
To imply that someone of colour shouldn’t even be doing it, except for characters of their own skin colour is pretty hurtful and ignorant. So because a character isn’t gay, disabled or whatever that gay, disabled or whatever person can’t have fun?
I love how white people say “oh the character isn’t black” the character also almost every time IS NOT WHITE they are Asian 🤭 then they copy how Asian peoples eyes are-
Why are you racist?
@@xiiir838 why are you stupid?
@@xiiir838 dang, you are everywhere
they are asian , BUT they are still not black so they do have a point
I love how black people say "I love how white people say "oh the character isn't black" the character also almost everytime IS NOT WHITE they're Asian then they copy how asian eyes are-"
Around the time this video came out, the videos from black creaters I saw were them talking about this issue and being shadow banned.
As a white person, I didn't have much of any people of color at all on my for you page until I straight up searched for it to get it into my algorithm.
And, as someone who is into engineering, THIS is a big issue with learning ai and algorithms. It occurs in every place of learning ai and algorithms I've seen. These aren't some "perfected, this is a balanced view that includes everyone because a person isn't directly involved, solutions", it's a "boiled down to make it stark as day and night that racism is very real". The algorithm not showing people of color on my for you page without me actively looking for them is the algorithm seeing because more people interact with white creators, we show them more white creators. The pushback and the reactions you're describing from the app algorithm are straight-up racism in the algorithm. There was an experiment done with learning ai where it demonstrates it really takes everything directly. Because on the trolly problem, a person who put in their preferences noted they value cats, and so the ai valued cat lives far above human lives. This is the same thing, different platforms. Some other robotic flaws I'm aware of is motion sensor sinks and facial recognition ai. Because of the lack of diversity included in making these products, they don't work for the people left out of the creating process. This is a VERY common problem that happens in many areas and is why diversity in the development of products is so very important.
I feel that as a plus sized cosplayer. I legit had a group of guys who said that they liked my Sakura Haruno cosplay, but then went on to say that earlier that day they saw a cuter skinny Sakura and I was alright for a fat Sakura.
But I will never understand why people are so mean to people who are just trying to show love for a character. Black cosplayers are so talented and deserve love.
We appreciate you, but I'm no fan of an overweight person who has no incentive to want to better themselves. Not saying that you are, but just saying.
@@Astropoliy wow. Just admit you are fat phobic. People of all sizes are allowed to love cosplay. And size does not equal lack of care. It can be due to underlying issues. You should not have to pause enjoying fandom until you are skinny. 🙄
Also. You can keep your comments to yourself
@@Astropoliy wow you missed the point
@@Astropoliy you missed the entire point by a mile, they never said they wanted to stay the way they are, they just stated that they were plus sized, what makes you think theyre not trying? And if they werent, who cares. No one deserves hate for dressing up as a character they like...
@@Astropoliy you clearly don't appreciate anybody
It’s fuckin wack cause a lot of black cosplayers are insanely talented and look amazing in their cosplays
Thank you for saying that white people cosplaying black characters is fine as long as there is not black face
I've always wanted to cosplay, but the community's attitude towards black ppl is scary honestly. The only reason I'd still be willing to try is because there are so many amazing black cosplayers out there setting a good example
Please cosplay! These hateful anime fans can't decide who does what -- just like we can't stop them from consuming a non-white genre ( go figure). Plus they're plenty of black cosplay communities minus the anti-blackness and bitterness. Please celebrate yourself with fellow minds!
I clicked on this ignorant of this issue. Thinking the complaint was lack of black characters and thinking "yeah, but most cosplayers aren't the race of the character..." But no, of course it's just flat out racism. I'm sad to hear all these cosplayers have to deal with this crap while doing what they are passionate about. Like someone coming out to your play to sit there booing nonstop. The blurred/censored crotch had me laughing. The cosplayers you put on the screen looked amazing. That Hinata is stunning, totally nailed it.
Internet comments are racist ? Lol.
Anything taken by white people ends up being a racist community let's be real
People are racist against whoever they gave some white girl tons of shit for cosplaying starfire so its not a black only thing
@@SC-pg7jr LOL cute that you were just racist AF in that statement
@@stevebob2941 white fragility moment
It's crazy how people were outraged at Starfire having a black actress despite not being human but they weren't at Beast Boy having an Asian actor despite being white.
Period. Thank you for pointing it out.
i think some were
Starfire is seven feet tall, has green eyes and orange skin, multiple characters joke about how her disguises won't really work. She looks like no human ever, so why are they mad?
@@TupocalypseShakur The actress that played her in the live action is black
@@sadpenguin8616 I didn't see anything honestly
"That character isn't black, though." Says Kevin Whitebread, before doning his cosplay of totally white European ninja Sasuke Uchiha
Edgy white kids on the Internet be like: *does a hate crime* "It's just a prank bro" *punches a baby in the face* "People just be like that" *detonates a nuclear warhead in the middle of Chicago* "Just get over it lol"
I'll admit I laughed at the baby punching part.
@@SamuelSEdme that's a sentence you probably don't want on the public record
@@Pablo360able I know. I just found the increasing absurdity of your comment pretty funny.
Im not gonna lie, im a latino who used 4chan for many many years. Its not even edgy white kids who are like that, its evenly spread. Even my brothers are like that now and I never let them find the worst websites on the internet. I blame the lgbtq community, stans: specifically k-pop, and internet pedos which predominantly are left leaning and on discord. Everyday i just become less political because everyone seems to be retarded
“Get off the internet if you can’t deal with people calling you black and you can’t cosplay”
No black creator should have to deal with racism period. And you shouldn’t tell them to get off the internet.
No content creator should get death threats because they drew a dark skin character a little bit lighter. That happens too, and it's unacceptable
@@xiiir838
Bro, the reason that happens is because black people already don't have as many characters that represent them.
I know your trying to act self righteous, but the thing is there are always bad apples in a group, the problem stems from those said bad apples outnumbering the good ones.
We receive hate and death threats too, so why bring our problems down? While also lifting up yours? They're both bad, but you act like yours should take more attention. (Kinda racist behavior)
@@xiiir838 by the way, I prob know which creator got the hate. Forgot her name tho.
I know the problems that the left has caused in the anime sphere, but I also know the problems that the right has caused the anime sphere.
Both are bad and we should fix them.
@@-NO_ I despise the first group more because, they are victims themselves, keep the wheel of hate rolling while acting as a victim is despicable.
@@-NO_ Yeah, "we should fix them, but I'm going to ignore what one side does because I sympathize more with them, uh? The hypocrisy is a cliche in the left, at least right wingers are open about their prejudices, not playing the victim while discriminating openly.
To this day I do not know why we can’t let people just dress up as their favorite characters
Well as someone said, some of the new generation kids are just not it.
@@djneonpandaandscorchgaming1378 it's not even kids most of the time. it's grown ass adults that do and say dumb shit rn and kids are influenced by them for the worse
@@angel_of_rust true.
Because if it doesn’t even look identical to said character, it’s not even a cosplay… my guy
@@PoIarisPrime Still, people have the right to dress up as those characters without the unnecessary judgment. The only time that such commentors should be worried about that accuracy of such depiction is in terms of instances where it is necessary to depict such characters accurately like live-action. Otherwise, the is no excuse for this type of harassment
I'm latino with long jet black curly hair and dressed as minato kamikaze for Halloween and a black dude called me out for not being white and blonde.. I gave a postive viewpoint on how I wanted to show that god tier characters should be represented by color and other unique hair types.
I am glad people are finally standing up to this because a friend of mine got harassed out of the community for being "the wrong color."
Freaking anime girls have eyes 3/4th the size of thier face but her being cosplayed by someone of a different race breaks the immersion somehow?
Its crazy how bad this is, literally every black cosplayer i know has gotten some form of racist comments. Doesnt matter if they have 500 or 10k followers, somehow these people always find a way to harass black cosplayers.
And it's a shame because there are some genuinely talented black cosplayers out there.
Man the "its a joke" defence is a plague upon the internet. People think its a get away with anything for free-card. Also 9/10 times they only claim it was a joke after they are called out on it.
edit: nvm you covered that later in the video
It’s not a defense it’s truly just a joke. Just go on Twitter if you think jokes are truly offensive then all black people are racist literally the most racist people on Twitter are black
@@onlyonpaper twitter is full of delusion, never taken accountability, toxic, over dramatic, fake woke, sheep. Twitter isn't credible for anything but spreading lies, hate, and deceit faster. Edit: also wtf does your comment have to do with the og comment??
My first time ever cosplaying at comic con I was superior Spider-Man. I vividly remember taking off my mask for some air and immediately hearing some douchebags shouting out “what up miles!” & “that’s not Peter Parker!” Shit is disgusting and disheartening
Should’ve stayed covered man sorry that’s the reality
Fuck'em
People can't control what they look like at birth so whoever they want to cosplay as should be okay. Cosplaying is supposed to be fun and bring communities together not tear each other apart over things people have no control over.
The craziest thing about "____ isn't black" is that "____ isn't white" either!!! Most of these characters are asian but they see no problem with themselves dressing as one. But the minute someone with dark skin wants to mind their business as their favorite character here comes somebody's unsolicited opinion. 😒 I've seen people who pass the skin test have nothing said to them. But when you're obviously black all hell breaks loose. It's wild...
EDIT: Whoops! commented before I got to that part of the video.
Reminds me of a vague memory of a quote by Mike Tyson...
"The internet has made everyone soft, you can say everything without getting punched in the face."
@@Tavares0709he should’ve added “especially if you’re white”
I hate that people who cosplay as a character and their black always get that one comment that says "ThE ChArAcTeR iS nOt BlAcK." Like bro, let them do what they wanna do, why do you care about the race of the character? But that's just me not knowing what I'm talkimg about right? 😑😔
I hate when folks without knowledge not know that there is a such thing as brown Asian but that doesn't mean their black damn and can y'all plz stop with this nonsense of black not being able to cosplay these characters but white girls can cosplay these Asian boys like make it make Sense
@@deondrex18k And then they wanna act like we are the problem. Like bruh.
And there are some people, that if a character in anime has brown skin. They aren't black they're, quote on quote, "A BlAcK JaPaNeSe PeRsOn." HUH?
Yo I hate when people do that even though the characters are also not white
They also forget blasian people exist. Asian latinx people exist they're tan but still Asian
Nah the racist nicknames are true mfs will see one black cosplayer and say nigato or blackato but when a white person cosplays as a anime character it's no where to be seen it's just irritating like damn
Not to mention the unfunny jokes like the whip jokes or just snow bunnies saying half of the n word
It's a shame that people are just plain stupid, just being racist for racism sake. People cosplaying makes for a fun community and it's sad to see hate coming out on top
Anything taken by white people ends up being a racist community let's be real
"Most of these characters aren't even white" FUCKING EXACTLY OH MY GOD
Ikkkkkkkkk😩
They're not even real, all these Emo cosplayers. WTF!!!
They look white.
@@joshuamoon9312 They look like cartoons. Anyone can cosplay them.
@@joshuamoon9312 ok and? They still aren't white lmao
I remember being so conflicted with dress up growing up. I’d always wanted to be a Disney princess or Tinker Bell for Halloween but I had this internal conflict of “Tinker Bell isn’t black; Cinderella isn’t black..I should just be Tiana or Iridessa” I’m glad my mom still encouraged me to wear what I wanted regardless of my skin color, because DAMN that shit would always make me cry.
As a hispanic i cant pull off pretty much any cosplay at all. However it never occured to me that my skin color is my limiting factor, maybe you should just do what you want instead of crying about it?
Same, I dressed as Snow White and tinker bell during Halloween as a kid. I’m glad my parents didn’t care
@@chromaticabberationsgiveme9811 shut up lol
@@chromaticabberationsgiveme9811 er, may I remind you I cried about it when I was a literal child? I had little to no concept of self confidence or race, all that I knew was that all the pretty fictional characters that I liked were white or light-skinned-which led me into thinking you had to be white in order to be attractive. By no means do I have this outlook on these things to this day.
@@Teriiiyakiii More power to ya then, row row fight da powah!
Its always like this on reels. I see such a cool cosplay and then I open the comments
OK, but like Instagram Reels is an entirely different breed. It’s not even just racism it’s genuinely everything bad is in the comments of Instagram reels so if you post on reels your kind of asking for it, it’s the culture
The anime community as a whole is bigoted as hell. I shouldn't have to be wary to watch a video essay of my favorite anime in fear of a transphobic or racist joke.
MAN THIS RIGHT HERE
@@iaqh lol yeah so first question is, how is the race of those characters tied to their story? Like cage features story beats regarding institutional racism and black panther is the king of an African nation and speaks on black identity. Thor for example has nothing to do with one person's identity because the hammer chooses anyone it wishes. Captain America easily could have been black because black people are American. You see? The issue is that every black character is considered political because there are so few of them, making any race bending of black characters feel malicious since there are so many white characters. That said, there's a tasteful way to do almost anything
@@iaqh you know what? fuck it. Sure I want to see a white person doing these cosplays. do it.
@laqh the fuck should I know, just do it.
And the same people perpetuating racism in the anime community are the same ones who keep asking why more people don't watch it.
Its pretty sad how the same people who be telling black people to stop dressing up as asian characters are the same people who are white and dresses as asian characters 🤡
And the thing is theres not much black or dark skinned anime characters so idk why they would want people to cosplay as nothingness.
Also I 100% know for a fact that the creators of these characters dont give a flying hell about a black person cosplaying as their asian characters. If anything they'll be grateful that people love their characters. Its like theyre trying to speak up for the creators and claiming it as the creator's opinion, only for their own benefits and not the creators :/
I mean that's really it, innit. They just want Black cosplayers to stop existing, or at the very least cosplaying in a space they'll never have to see/where they have no platform. Anything short of never having to see Black people exist won't ever be enough for people like that.
Yeah and they're saying "If the roles were switched" Like no one gives a fuck if you cosplay a black character.. unless you're making your skin black while doing it.
I’m gonna cosplay for the first time as Sister Krone who is basically a black anime character on the 26th this month. It was partially because she’s the only black female character I know people can recognize and the only one I know. I purposely avoided characters like Hinata because she’s Japanese and I didn’t want the anime club going for my skin tone for pale people. I’m really interested that people are addressing that.
@@pancaqq4578 a couple female characters in Carole Tuesday you can cosplay as a lot of them are female of color
People should be able to cosplay whatever character they want. Why should people care if their race doesn’t match the character they’re cosplaying. Shit like that is ridiculous. Cosplay is supposed to be for fun
Money and clout got into the scene. Years ago when it was like DEEP nerdy shit nobody cared the moment it got mainstream boom you have the open hatred. I've seen the fall of cosplay with my homies that cosplayed. It was venomous, people trying to de-platform rivals. People getting call out for bigotry, racism and or sexual misconduct. The moment it was a business to some fun went bye bye
@@ExeErdna nah it was always racist
@@Imxel21 No it wasn't I was in the scene with other black, hispanic and asian cosplayers. Shit didn't get openly racist until money and clout got into it. I saw it happen live they wasn't getting no open racism to constantly the first comments are some racist shit by this random mook and sure as hell isn't looking like a nerd.
There's this "new phrase" to tell the people that can't let you live in the clothes you like.
I don't exist for you.
I don't exist in these clothes for you.
I don't exist in this makeup for you.
I don't exist to wear this smile on my face for you.
I do all that shit for me bish. Duh.
Imagine unironically thinking a charcter named Chocolove is a good representation of black people.... Mans is literally a gang member that ends up in jail...
Also his name is fucking CHOCOLOVE
You do know that he got a redesign
Who that?
@@francisconavarrete2390 ok? Her point still stands. He's still a racial caricature of black people. His original design and characterization doesn't stop existing just because of a reboot
@@britneyokoro7083 never said that 🤦♂️ I am saying that redesigned did not show any of that. Because if it showed even in the reboot it shows that a Japanese Studios did not learn anything so that shows progress unless you're one of those people who even if a person or group becomes better you will still restore well he did this 10 20 years ago
"it's the internet; deal with it" is such an ignorant statement. Those that say it are admitting that they tolerate bigotry more than they tolerate those that call out bigotry.
Get off the internet then pus pus...
@@hellblau1384 get off this ratio
@@formerlyknownaseasrob W
Their bravado would fall flat if they were the ones being the test subject of their shitty convictions.
@@jamesalexander5559 they are being the test subjects right now people who disagree with you are in the comment sections right now you are in a bubble and we are in YOUR bubble telling you its just he internet and you are all screeching like harpies that were racists for pointing out your double standards and that if you dont like whats going on log off.
My bravado is still as strong as when i came in here
As a POC myself, I feel for you
We can’t speak out on how we feel or how someone else’s bigotry/racism makes us feel because there’s always going to be a white person who says “it isn’t a big deal”
I think yt is stalking me, I was just thinking about this issue yesterday and now this appeared in my recommendations.
"Why is sailor moon brown?" "Sailor Deimos" "I didn't know sailor moon was a demon"
Ion even cosplay, this is just from my pfp alone.
I keep it to ward people like that off my channel, and unsurprisingly it works! I couldn't have asked for a more chill community :)
Yo! Did not expect to see you here. Really love ur stuff, and sorry about the racism, it sucks!
@@outathisworld2130 Howdy, thanks for watching! :) It happens, but thankfully it's only a small handful compared to the majority who are cool people like yourself!
ur pfp is cool
@@Harmoslay Thank you! So is yours :)
@@NeroMai ty!
As a black girl who's really into j-fashion, I wanted to clear up the gyaru thing a lil bit. I think the tan skin thing has more to do with rebelling against Japanese beauty standards of being pale. Gyaru in general is based off of a rejection of social roles where women are expected to be quiet and demure and all that. It involves big hair, over the top outfits, loud makeup and other things that also fit in line with that theme.
Gyaru were able to create their own style and use it to build community and a distinct subculture. It's actually really cool and interesting, but it's sorta starting to change and tone down from what it used to be. There is a lot of American influence in gyaru, but I see the tanning thing as sort of a grey area that could use more discussion and research.
THANK YOU
*I feel like it's also important to mention tho that
*A. In the anime they used a wayyy darker tan color than is normal
*And B. That meaning kinda falls flat when all the anime characters are pale as hell
*Like it's trying to criticize a beauty standard while upholding it at the same time
@@prinxen1733 Exactly! The main female character is pale, innocent, and/or smart while the side female character that’s a ganguro girl is loud, sexual, and annoying. The only time I’ve seen it done right is Oshieite Galko-Chan.
@@kpopfan246 I haven't seen the anime that caused all the controversy, but I LOVE Oshiete Galko-chan
@@prinxen1733 If I may add to the conversation
A. That’s only a bit darker than normal since Ganguro can be quite dark
B. Japanese are mostly pale unless they’re in the sun a lot, so realistically the only anime characters that can be dark are fantastical, outdoorsy types, and Ganguro/Gyaru.
It makes me so sad there's this exclusion in the community. Anyone should be able to cosplay whoever they want. Would you stop a little black girl from dressing up as Elsa? Would you stop a little white girl from dressing up as Tiana? I hope you wouldn't. They have the same rights to cosplay as whoever they want as those who are older do. Don't send someone flack just because they aren't the same race as the character theyre cosplaying.
I wouldn't, but I'm sure some people probably would.
@@anonymouslyforgotten5592 and it's sad there are people who would.
Anything taken by white people ends up being a racist community let's be real white ppl are just plain racist I'm white btw
@@Miztique that doesnt mean its not true.
@@Miztique no dude, we said that anything taken by white people and doesnt let other ethnicities to get into it, ends up with a racist community, not that white people are inherently racist, those are 2 different thing, because excluding a group of people will eventually result on people hating on those excluded even if it is for no rational reason.
This happened with EVERYTHING, Gamers get mad ANY TIME there is a black woman in a videogame, people are complaining that the new GoW has a black woman in it even tho GoW is a work of fiction. with movies people bitch about "black james bond would be bad for the franchise" even tho there isnt even a movie like that being produced in the first place. Comic fans keep crying about LGBT people in comics, even if they are new characters, like jonh kent, also, Comics Gate happened. And with anime we have, for example, weebs complaining about black people cosplaying asian characters.
Shit like this is why I like characters like Iron Man. It doesn’t matter what race you are. If you’re in that costume, the people around you don’t see a black man cosplaying. They see Iron Man
Wait until someone draws him blue☠☠
yep it work because person like 100 percent like the character.