This video made me emotional for so many reasons, it’s the best opinion based Camren video I’ve ever watch and I’m thankful it was created because it’s opened my eyes up to so much. Well first, I feel as if a lot of people believe that Camren shippers are responsible for the split between them and although that could be slightly true, we’ve watched these girls grow and they were just young teenage girls getting used to putting their lives out there. I expect it’s hard enough for teens to come out on their own but when you’re famous, when you put yourself out there, it seems almost terrifying. I feel as if Camren happened in some shape in some form, it happened whether it was one kiss or even a crush, I think it happened. I think while Lauren was battling with whether or not she was bisexual or not, camren was just a friendship that she joked about until Camren shippers went the extra mile with it and turned it into something that Lauren believed not to be true. After that I feel that it offended her as she said being called bisexual offended her but I also feel like she didn’t mind testing the waters. Camila was/is a loving and chill person but also at the time, fetus Camila didn’t have much experience when it came to love so I feel that it was a new experience for Camila as well. I believe they at least kissed and I’m not suggesting that it didn’t mean anything to them but I think they chose to forget about it and I think it was Lauren’s idea. I think Lauren was still in denial about her sexuality and that sort of broke Camren. I think after that Lauren didn’t want to be reminded of it but Camren shippers were sort of constantly throwing it in their faces. When Lauren came out as bisexual, I think she felt that she could finally accept herself for who she was but I also believe that she was/is still pushing the memory of Camren away because of how much it broke their friendship. Idk it’s just a theory, sorry for the long paragraph but that’s my opinion on how things might’ve played out.
Camila never denied it because it was true.......Camila felt that it was stupid to hide how they felt about each other......but their big bosses did not want them to come out publicly......Lauren wanted things to be private between her and Camila .......she was afraid.....Camila has the courage of a lioness.....she could no longer put up with the secrecy......that's why she left the group.
I 100% agree on that because we all noticed that the hesitation and separation between both of them happened in 2016... and for some reason (in my opinion) I sort of knew it was because of Lauren.
Nada Yahya I agree with you , I think maybe Camila got fed up in so many ways, she probably felt so out of place in the last months, maybe things between them had just ended & she just couldn’t stand being around Lauren anymore , (I think maybe Lauren did hurt her but not intentionally , I think she just wasn’t sure they could actually have something real together ) , plus if you didn’t know Camila was supposed to be one more year with 5H according to her contract but she chose to leave early or they advised her to leave early & she did, I honestly truly feel that it was Camila the one that was the most hurt by their friendship/relationship ending & just decided she couldn’t take it anymore.
They had something special but, I feel like Lauren didn't try anymore and said that they should stop whatever was going on between them and Camila had no other choice but to leave. It hurt to stay. I say Lauren was one of the reasons she left the group. Camila is happy now and so is Lauren but I sometimes feel like Lauren regrets it and all Camila wants is for Lauren to come to her first..Camila said it before " I knew I'd do it again if I could" but maybe its up to Lauren to come around or not (this is just my opinion) there's so many things that could of happen..it hurts us and we arent even the ones that were involved in the "relationship" 😂
Gia Elizondo i totally agree with you because with that kind of relationship/friendship or whatever they had, if they are really became best friends/true friends never stop communicating whether they've been separated. I mean if there was no hurt feelings in between them like personal feelings, not just Camila leaving the group they would still communicate or at least not avoiding an interview about it ( unless it was really an order from the management/producer or whoever). Just my thought😃💜
Ive seen dozens of Camren videos. This has been the most real presentation. Heartbreaking, but well stated. I respect the ladies and hope they find happiness in their private and public lives.
This hurts my heart strings. I miss Camren. The way the two looked at each other. The way they hold hands. I know right now it is not happening but maybe one day Camren comes back. Maybe one day we will see them talk to each other one day and we see the love that was once there. Until then I love them both even if there not talking to ech other.
Arrow of the highway yeah maybe. I just hope the fandom didn't destroy the chance of them even being together at the same place anymore... I hope that they'll come together that's why I'm so excited about the TCA, and the VMA! I'll always love them too.
It’s 2020 and yet I can still come back and think of how perfect they would have been. Though I can imagine how hard it was for them. All the pressure from fans and all the hate they could have received. It’s hard for anyone to come out but when there’s hundreds of people watching it almost feels like ur drowning in your own thoughts. I am a Camren shipper and I do wish they had been together, but the public can’t decide there lives. They were still really young back then and still figuring out who they were. As much Camren “evidence” we have we still can’t say it was real :( the public didn’t give Camila and Lauren a choice of there own when all they needed was some space to breathe. Maybe if we had kept our mouths shut they would’ve realised. Still to this very day it crushes me that they were never officially together but all that matters is they know who they are and they know their place in this massive world. Camila and Lauren have found their place and fate will do what it can but we just have to wait and see where life’s journey takes us next.
wow. i cried in the first part and it's the same for the second. but honstly, my kinda 'breaking point' in both of the videos was the realization that they both, camila and lauren, are actual human beings, this all is happening in the REAL LIFE, this all HAPPENED in the real life and that we can't even think of what happened behind the scenes. the fact that you can see what they feel for each other and that it isn't working out is the worst part of it. i can't even put that in words. it's just so sad.
I feel like they tried to talk it out but it was an awkard/sensitive topic. Camila: Awkward Conversation - Consequence Lauren: You think words can ease the tension - Don't say you love me Also both songs are about how they got hurt by love
Well, you've outdone yourself Son Of Camren. Ugh!! This is so good!!! So well put together. The editing, the music, the hypothesis (which is on point for me) beautifully depicts something was there without being unrealistic. I'm a CS because I know what I feel when I see them interact. You can't fake that sh*t. That's why thousands of people continue to believe there was/is something there. Love your vids. Keep doing them because you are talented and I need you LOL!
In what form? C: I should know by now L: I expect C: you should know by now L: you expect C: We should know by now L: We expect C: Something's gotta give, something's gotta break But all I do is give and all you do is take. How can I move on when I know that it won't No reason to stay is a good reason to go.. L: Wish I had no expectations I wish that I could get through your head With no confrontation I really wish we could talk about it instead.... 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁 It's so funny Shippers better do a mash up of camila and Lauren's song.
I think this is really close to the truth. I wonder what all happend behind the scenes. You can just see that there was something going on, it's all so confusing...
I think Camila in the NBTS tour wasn't giving hints, but simply that she's gotten over it a little more, if not almost fully. She's written all her feelings out, and now she's looking at what the relationship had that was good, and that's why she said she'd do it again if she could. Because she's getting over it. I think Lauren might try to approach, as remember when Camila saw the psychic and she said someone or something would come back and she just had to let go? I think that they're both just trying to get over it, and maybe they'll come back and make amends but I truly doubt it could bloom into a friendship, as with something like this sometimes there's simply too much there and it wouldn't just stay friendship and they would get hurt all over again. But I could be wrong, everyone could be wrong. All we know right now is that they're trying their best and we should support them in their careers. Lauren's coming out with her album soon, and Camila is making music. Thanks for reading this if you did lol (:
i think i completely agree with this. my best friend and i dated, and in some ways i see some of the similarities... i was completely in love with this girl but we both ended up broken and hurt by the end of it because she was going through stuff, and it all just went horribly. after that, we ended up not talking for about a year and then late last year we started to talk again and it just wasn’t really the same. i think it was really hard to accept but i eventually realized that her and i could never really get back what we had, even from before we were dating. i think that’s why camren is something that is so dear to my heart, because i feel like i kind of understand what it could have felt like during the painful stages of loving and moving on. i empathize with them so much and love camila’s music because it reminds me of what I’ve been through and what she herself has been through.
2020 comment. I have suspicion that they finally communicate. Many clues leading to it, esp Camz lyrics and their indirect socmed msg. From what I can conclude so far, the biggest problem was Lauren's indecisiveness. Unable to put label to their relationship - but unable to let go either. You could tell, she also very jealous toward Camz developed friendship outside 5H circle (she lose control). Observe how she reacted everytime Tay's name was mentioned, for instance. So, I guess, before Camz finally leaving in late 2016, she did try to amend. "I am coming out of closet for you" (Havana mv). But Camz answered to her that time was brilliant - showing how clear she was about all the toxicity revolved around them "I love you, but I love me more". However, as they both mature (though, in my personal observation, Lauren gained hers, lil bit later than Camz) - and Lauren seems to enjoy being in her own skin, trying to love herself more, trying to pour her heart out through creative arts - she finally able to gradually break her own wall and let Camz come in to see her light/darkness. And again, in my personal opinion, I think that Camz (cause their love to one another is pure and strong) willing to give Lauren second chance. Hopefully, one day, if not soon, we all going to celebrate #Camren in the public room.
Lauren's "Okay"(s) always break my heart. I frequently marvel over the idea that she ends up with Camila's album on loop quite often. Again, with that "Okay" sighing out of her lips, and eyes fixated on 3Am moons! Okay I am getting emotional again, but I really wish things were more easy for them, I do. I just want both of them to be happy.
Camren will always be like my favorite fairytale i will be telling my children this love story before bedtime every night. Wheter they where real or not (it'll always be real for me) a beautiful story deserves to be told and live long and forever.❤
I've put my camren heart in cryosleep to save myself from the hurt (mainly from Lauren), but this channel brings light to things. Keep up the good work.
Christina Brown As heartbreaking as that scene is ,... doesn’t it make you think like right before Camila sneakily reaches for Lauren’s hand like what was going thru her mind???? Was she like testing Lauren ? Did she think the cameraman couldn’t catch that? Was she just caught up in the moment? Like what was she thinking ? What exactly was going thru her mind? I really wish I knew, & Idk man , I have had many many doubts about Camren being 100% real after watching so many videos but I think that this , this clip alone proves so much , Camilas actions are so subliminally mysterious but at the same time give away so much. It’s crazy.
Baby gazelle3190, you just blew my mind 🤯. And yes, I completely agree... it could be one of those many scenarios you just described... but we will never know. I just hope one day, they get to finally be together freely, if that’s what’s really what fate has in store for both of them. All these PR relationship is too much. I honestly can’t stand that Ty and Matthew guy, but there’s nothing we can do about it.
& then in 11:56-11:59 Camila puts her head on Lauren’s shoulder & smiles & Lauren proceeds to put her head on top of Camilas & they both smile like they’re the happiest they’ve ever been in their lives & I feel like it’s Lauren’s confirmation to Camila about not letting her grab her hands earlier in the interview , kinda like “We’re okay baby” & that’s just so fucking cute like c’mon 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
@@Babygazelle-tm4ut hell yeah, I do wonder all the time. Their body language at times speaks volumes, so much so that, the more you try and analyse it, the more baffling it is to come up with any other possible reasoning.
I think lauren was too afraid to go out. Because of all the speculations that will come, but when the time she was ready. She already break her heart, and maybe gathering some courage to fix it. But there are consequences for everything, the question is "is she worthy?"But only time can heal wounds. If it's true love, it will lead you back home. That's where you belong.
This video is truly amazing. First of all I love your music taste in this. Second of all I agree with all of your thoughts in this. I really loved editing and how nicely it was done. I truly appreciate time you gave in this video. Thank you very much and camren forever ❤️ (also if I made some mistakes sorry for my English :) )
A have mild psychic ability and this video just triggered something in my head and I think I’m gonna cry. Everything just came to me like a fact their relationship was so toxic and now I see how ‘Who are you’ is so accurate 😭
I agree yall....this was the first video that presented the camren story in a way that was so real, almost TOO real, where I found myself actually feeling really devastated imagining the reality of the heartbreak that potentially occurred...usually I just smile and enjoy camren vids lol but this made me cry
I've been in a similar situation, there was this girl who I had a crush on who one day kissed me. We kept kissing, hugging and acting like a couple til summer break. During the summer she just disappeared and I was really hurt cause the crush turned into more in the mean time. Then the next school year came around and she acted like we never kissed and that really broke me, I think I cried over her for a good month. Then, one day, one of the friends we had in common told me she was struggling with her sexuality and hated herself for kissing me so she was trying to forget. To this day I haven't heard of her and she changed school, and I still regret the fact we didn't talk to each other and tried to figure things out together. But we were normal teens who had their time to process things, Camren on the other end was in the spotlight 24/7 and that's, in my opinion, what fucked everything up for them
10:04 Well We dont REALLY KNOW if Camila *walked away first* But we do know PUBLICLY she left 5H But how could we be sure Camila walked away How many unresolve fights, misunderstanding they had, emotional breakdown did they endure behind the scenes for the past years of being together in the group? My point is there's no fine line between victim blaming of the two or who suffered more, I think in the end they're both the victim
This is honestly so true..like lauren actually always tried to deny the fact tt she was bi and she got angry even then, but when camren was also too much, maybe she also denied it to herself and got angry cause that was how she expressed things..maybe
I'm so confused Lauren dated her best friend Lucy on and off but as I can see there still friends but what make Camila different it's weird to me the situation
I don't know if it's real tho I believe it is but if it was it's so freaking heartbreaking to just imagine that this could've been something possible to happened anyways great video
lo was hurt back there when Camilla was asked if she's single or not n Camila answered she's single. worst of realtionship when u know u r together but u r not in it..that what lo felt there.
I don't think they were together at that point and that's why Lauren was sad cause she knew that Camila was single and there were a lot who'd go after her
Leigh Marco Camilla was the reason Lauren came out. her attraction to girls awaken again by Camilla.she felt it with her. but this particular part aftr Camilla said she's single affected Lauren probably she was expecting something from her which would push her to step up bring it on the Carmen thing to us but so hard for Camilla to put into words when almost too much for her alone. n even if she did reveal the truth between them but fear took over them. . I think the feeling was real ,they are obvious,and when they are almost close to risking it out loud what they have it just breaks them because their career was getting in the line. but I hope one day they will.
Your vid is the only camren vid that got me fucked up for real. The aproach is mature and well arranged. It makes sense because after all those tangle narratives and mixed up interviews, lying etc, in the end they are only human. Young girls with love that caught in the middle of the spotlight. At this point in 2019, i really just waiting for their music to tell their story in someway... but man this break my heart 💔
7:02 Lauren looks so hurt. I feel like maybe they talked abt them coming out as a couple but Camila was and still is in denial. You can see it all over her face 7:06 too
Yep... Your totally right I don't want Lauren to risk a chance of admitting that she have feelings for camila. It's so dangerous and very bad decision as well. Cause what if camila choose to hurt her as a payback of what Lauren did to her before?...idw that to happen... It's so risky and very low chance that it ended in a good way. Better that they let it stay this way for now and let the destiny works for them... If they we're destined to be a partner in life, Time will answer all of that.
i think the main problem was communication, instead of talking bout the issues, they kept getting back at each other... like the halsey's strangers video where they kept giving punches to one another until one of them is down and out... maybe camila got sick and tired of it.. coz if ur really inlove with that other person that would be so freaking hard.. you'll go out of your mind with confusion... the love, the hate and all the inbetweens... haha! i know bcoz ive felt that way bout someone before... actually camrenship made me realize how one sided the love that i had for that person... it took me almost 2 years to finally get over it.. all those time (especially at the beginning) it felt as if my heart is being ripped out of my chest.. and all i wanted to do is to make it stop hurting....
They where young before and they don't know how to handle it ... About Lauren she is confused and after she accepted that she is bi then Camila was gone ... 😢 I'm still hoping that they are meant for each other it's not because that gay thing but because they are connected by hearts😢😢😢
Idk how thing get in their world , but they used to leve each other ,maybe they still do . But it was like Lauren said Toxic , it’s toxic being with someone and not having the choice to be happy with them , insecurities,no communication, where the base of their pain . But I don’t relate Camila’s departure of the group with Lauren , that was her choice of being free ,maybe it help her growing from camren or maybe help her to just said Stop . We have a lot that we don’t know . Someday they will talk and speak , maybe they fix things maybe not maybe they just stay this way .
Ik what camila means when she said about knowing whatever the thing they both had was because sometimes when u and another girl like each other its complicated as hell u don't even know what ur relations are with the other girl cause shit so complicated u ain't friends u ain't together cause u can't be or whatever so then what r u people that get jealous when showing affection to other people always wanting to hold their hand and just cuddling that sure ain't friends but they weren't in an official relationship so if it ever happens basically ur both sat there having all these feelings and u know u like each other but u dk what to do maybe u didn't want to come to terms with it because u don't know if its a phase or if its who u are maybe being afraid or just being ashamed of urself or what other people think it's just so hard and ik from experience I never thought love was so bad until one person comes along and completely changes ur views they deffinately had feelings for each other its just with everything they didn't know what to do with the feelings they had and I feel so horrible to both of them because I'm going through the exact same Thing :(
I'm a Camren Shipper, so dont get me wrong. In your last video, i did mention about "MAYBE Camren Shippers took away their privileged of confirming their own sexuality." The first scene (interview) just prove it all. Just to add, not just CS but also ppl. Maybe Lauren denied it cause she doesnt know what bi/lesbian/gay is. She was just 16 when Camren started right? As she grew older, she knows about LGBT more, then she is comfortable with her own self, admitted she was bi (2016) and accepted her own sexuality.This goes the same with Camila (except she never confirm her own as far as i know). But i believe the signs are there. Love needs time.
Son Of Camren thank you. I love your vids tho. Keep it up. Hope they can find their way back to each other. Soulmate deserves each other. :') looking forward to your next vid!
Camila was so ready to say it all. Always teasing that it was never about a boy. She wanted to yell that to the world. Lauren was quiet about it. So she wasn’t ready. There was also a lot of jealousy going on. So Lauren told her to quit it. Since the Camden shippers made it hard. CMila backed offf finally. And you can tell she was torn. Seeing both of them cry in between their concerts. They are a magnet waiting to be pulled together. Mostly management separating them. Idk why if they’d be a popular power couple. Thy look beautiful together. Because if it was all fake then there’s no need to hide the friendship atleast.
This is just my opinion and POV. There are so many things that happened in between them that we don’t know about. I don’t even think they were OFFICIALLY together but instead were doing, acting and feeling like lovers do. They were both too young and were still figuring themselves out plus is even harder when you’re in the spotlight with the fans, a management, etc. I feel like when Lauren finally accepted herself and was ready to make it official in between them Camila was already tired of all the things they were going through. I feel like Camila kind of walked away from their situationship to be in an easier relationship with a man because she was scared of the world and the pressure of it, I even think that her family didn’t even know what was going on between her and Lauren because to this day I feel like she really doesn’t want to label herself. Camila walking away from the whole thing hurt Lauren deeply and the tension that was already in 5H got even worse, it was obvious that they felt uncomfortable at the very end before Camila leaving. Which makes me think that the other girls kind of took sides about the whole situation. In those last concerts with Camila they all look down specially Lauren. I think all this pressure plus the pressure of the management and music made Camila leave the group. They were both heartbroken. I think that nowadays they are still struggling to heal from that relationship because there are many feelings of resentment, guilt, love involve. I think maybe in a couple more years when they realize that they are mature enough to talk they for sure will.
Lauren was not ready to come out, Camila was ready to risk it all😢 so many songs Camila wrote tell the story. Camila has not denied Camren and when she talks about her songs she has said “person” and we all know what that means. We might see them shine but I’m sure deep down they regret not making their relationship work. They would have made a powerful couple in every aspect….
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This video made me emotional for so many reasons, it’s the best opinion based Camren video I’ve ever watch and I’m thankful it was created because it’s opened my eyes up to so much. Well first, I feel as if a lot of people believe that Camren shippers are responsible for the split between them and although that could be slightly true, we’ve watched these girls grow and they were just young teenage girls getting used to putting their lives out there. I expect it’s hard enough for teens to come out on their own but when you’re famous, when you put yourself out there, it seems almost terrifying. I feel as if Camren happened in some shape in some form, it happened whether it was one kiss or even a crush, I think it happened. I think while Lauren was battling with whether or not she was bisexual or not, camren was just a friendship that she joked about until Camren shippers went the extra mile with it and turned it into something that Lauren believed not to be true. After that I feel that it offended her as she said being called bisexual offended her but I also feel like she didn’t mind testing the waters. Camila was/is a loving and chill person but also at the time, fetus Camila didn’t have much experience when it came to love so I feel that it was a new experience for Camila as well. I believe they at least kissed and I’m not suggesting that it didn’t mean anything to them but I think they chose to forget about it and I think it was Lauren’s idea. I think Lauren was still in denial about her sexuality and that sort of broke Camren. I think after that Lauren didn’t want to be reminded of it but Camren shippers were sort of constantly throwing it in their faces. When Lauren came out as bisexual, I think she felt that she could finally accept herself for who she was but I also believe that she was/is still pushing the memory of Camren away because of how much it broke their friendship. Idk it’s just a theory, sorry for the long paragraph but that’s my opinion on how things might’ve played out.
Sweet Nature I agree with you
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Sweet Nature i agree so much, and your paragraph made me cry😂😭
L: ".. Life happens and sometimes when life hits love, you just die."
Me: 😭
Miss S she was almost crying 😢
Camila hasnt ever really denied camren for some reason
Mary Jane Hansen yes 💯 she never!
Lauren always jumps in first
Camila never denied it because it was true.......Camila felt that it was stupid to hide how they felt about each other......but their big bosses did not want them to come out publicly......Lauren wanted things to be private between her and Camila .......she was afraid.....Camila has the courage of a lioness.....she could no longer put up with the secrecy......that's why she left the group.
@@kellymccain3403 Realy?
Because she's a terrible liar🤷♀️
I think in my personal opinion I believe that lauren stopped whatever they had and camila had no other choice but to walk away
Gucci Bubbles I think so too.
I agree.
I 100% agree on that because we all noticed that the hesitation and separation between both of them happened in 2016... and for some reason (in my opinion) I sort of knew it was because of Lauren.
Gucci Bubbles why can't Camila be the one who walked out first
Nada Yahya I agree with you , I think maybe Camila got fed up in so many ways, she probably felt so out of place in the last months, maybe things between them had just ended & she just couldn’t stand being around Lauren anymore , (I think maybe Lauren did hurt her but not intentionally , I think she just wasn’t sure they could actually have something real together ) , plus if you didn’t know Camila was supposed to be one more year with 5H according to her contract but she chose to leave early or they advised her to leave early & she did, I honestly truly feel that it was Camila the one that was the most hurt by their friendship/relationship ending & just decided she couldn’t take it anymore.
They had something special but, I feel like Lauren didn't try anymore and said that they should stop whatever was going on between them and Camila had no other choice but to leave. It hurt to stay. I say Lauren was one of the reasons she left the group. Camila is happy now and so is Lauren but I sometimes feel like Lauren regrets it and all Camila wants is for Lauren to come to her first..Camila said it before " I knew I'd do it again if I could" but maybe its up to Lauren to come around or not (this is just my opinion) there's so many things that could of happen..it hurts us and we arent even the ones that were involved in the "relationship" 😂
Gia Elizondo i totally agree with you because with that kind of relationship/friendship or whatever they had, if they are really became best friends/true friends never stop communicating whether they've been separated. I mean if there was no hurt feelings in between them like personal feelings, not just Camila leaving the group they would still communicate or at least not avoiding an interview about it ( unless it was really an order from the management/producer or whoever). Just my thought😃💜
Ummm....Yes we where, all of y’all know damn well that “ CS and Camren where an Entanglement” just admit it 😂💀
@@nomore6505 noooooo
7:06 wow lauren REALLY looked hurt and you can't change my mind.
I see it
Watch normanis body language
I’m ok with camren reuniting as friends. Please 😭😭😭
Valerie Dio me too 😭😭😭
Vote for Fifth Harmony to reunite then
And when life hits love , sometimes you just die... Damn girl😭😭😭
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She was very emotional 😢😢😢😢
Ive seen dozens of Camren videos. This has been the most real presentation. Heartbreaking, but well stated. I respect the ladies and hope they find happiness in their private and public lives.
jovianbug Thankyou :)
This hurts my heart strings. I miss Camren. The way the two looked at each other. The way they hold hands. I know right now it is not happening but maybe one day Camren comes back. Maybe one day we will see them talk to each other one day and we see the love that was once there. Until then I love them both even if there not talking to ech other.
Arrow of the highway yeah maybe. I just hope the fandom didn't destroy the chance of them even being together at the same place anymore... I hope that they'll come together that's why I'm so excited about the TCA, and the VMA! I'll always love them too.
This is just heartbreaking. But i actually think it could happen like you described it.
It’s 2020 and yet I can still come back and think of how perfect they would have been. Though I can imagine how hard it was for them. All the pressure from fans and all the hate they could have received. It’s hard for anyone to come out but when there’s hundreds of people watching it almost feels like ur drowning in your own thoughts. I am a Camren shipper and I do wish they had been together, but the public can’t decide there lives. They were still really young back then and still figuring out who they were. As much Camren “evidence” we have we still can’t say it was real :( the public didn’t give Camila and Lauren a choice of there own when all they needed was some space to breathe. Maybe if we had kept our mouths shut they would’ve realised. Still to this very day it crushes me that they were never officially together but all that matters is they know who they are and they know their place in this massive world. Camila and Lauren have found their place and fate will do what it can but we just have to wait and see where life’s journey takes us next.
wow. i cried in the first part and it's the same for the second.
but honstly, my kinda 'breaking point' in both of the videos was the realization that they both, camila and lauren, are actual human beings, this all is happening in the REAL LIFE, this all HAPPENED in the real life and that we can't even think of what happened behind the scenes. the fact that you can see what they feel for each other and that it isn't working out is the worst part of it. i can't even put that in words. it's just so sad.
yup 😭
I feel like they tried to talk it out but it was an awkard/sensitive topic.
Camila: Awkward Conversation - Consequence
Lauren: You think words can ease the tension - Don't say you love me
Also both songs are about how they got hurt by love
2:48 it hits!!! You can feel her emotions when she said when life hits love sometimes you just die!!!
Well, you've outdone yourself Son Of Camren. Ugh!! This is so good!!! So well put together. The editing, the music, the hypothesis (which is on point for me) beautifully depicts something was there without being unrealistic. I'm a CS because I know what I feel when I see them interact. You can't fake that sh*t. That's why thousands of people continue to believe there was/is something there. Love your vids. Keep doing them because you are talented and I need you LOL!
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I feel like Lauren's Expectation answers to Camila's Something's Gotta Give. It's just me tho..
In what form?
C: I should know by now
L: I expect
C: you should know by now
L: you expect
C: We should know by now
L: We expect
C: Something's gotta give, something's gotta break
But all I do is give and all you do is take.
How can I move on when I know that it won't
No reason to stay is a good reason to go..
L: Wish I had no expectations I wish that I could get through your head
With no confrontation I really wish we could talk about it instead....
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
It's so funny
Shippers better do a mash up of camila and Lauren's song.
Lauren Said in an Interview (Zach Sang) That the Song was about Ty...
@@cheyenne727 yeah of course she's going to say that it's pr anyway
I think this is really close to the truth. I wonder what all happend behind the scenes. You can just see that there was something going on, it's all so confusing...
I think Camila in the NBTS tour wasn't giving hints, but simply that she's gotten over it a little more, if not almost fully. She's written all her feelings out, and now she's looking at what the relationship had that was good, and that's why she said she'd do it again if she could. Because she's getting over it. I think Lauren might try to approach, as remember when Camila saw the psychic and she said someone or something would come back and she just had to let go? I think that they're both just trying to get over it, and maybe they'll come back and make amends but I truly doubt it could bloom into a friendship, as with something like this sometimes there's simply too much there and it wouldn't just stay friendship and they would get hurt all over again. But I could be wrong, everyone could be wrong. All we know right now is that they're trying their best and we should support them in their careers. Lauren's coming out with her album soon, and Camila is making music. Thanks for reading this if you did lol (:
Miss Bookworm they recently been speaking
Camilla and shawn seem to be a serious thing thou! How do you explain this? I wanna know
i think i completely agree with this. my best friend and i dated, and in some ways i see some of the similarities... i was completely in love with this girl but we both ended up broken and hurt by the end of it because she was going through stuff, and it all just went horribly. after that, we ended up not talking for about a year and then late last year we started to talk again and it just wasn’t really the same. i think it was really hard to accept but i eventually realized that her and i could never really get back what we had, even from before we were dating. i think that’s why camren is something that is so dear to my heart, because i feel like i kind of understand what it could have felt like during the painful stages of loving and moving on. i empathize with them so much and love camila’s music because it reminds me of what I’ve been through and what she herself has been through.
2020 comment. I have suspicion that they finally communicate. Many clues leading to it, esp Camz lyrics and their indirect socmed msg. From what I can conclude so far, the biggest problem was Lauren's indecisiveness. Unable to put label to their relationship - but unable to let go either. You could tell, she also very jealous toward Camz developed friendship outside 5H circle (she lose control). Observe how she reacted everytime Tay's name was mentioned, for instance. So, I guess, before Camz finally leaving in late 2016, she did try to amend. "I am coming out of closet for you" (Havana mv). But Camz answered to her that time was brilliant - showing how clear she was about all the toxicity revolved around them "I love you, but I love me more". However, as they both mature (though, in my personal observation, Lauren gained hers, lil bit later than Camz) - and Lauren seems to enjoy being in her own skin, trying to love herself more, trying to pour her heart out through creative arts - she finally able to gradually break her own wall and let Camz come in to see her light/darkness. And again, in my personal opinion, I think that Camz (cause their love to one another is pure and strong) willing to give Lauren second chance. Hopefully, one day, if not soon, we all going to celebrate #Camren in the public room.
10:40 hit me straight in the feels...😭
“If one is unsure of a relationship, the other has no choice but walk away though it hurts”
Omg why you doing this to me? 😪😪😪 it makes me cry.. Lauren 💔 Camila 💔 Camren 💔 maybe someday things could change but not now.. Thanks again for this 😪
Love is a beautiful feeling, love who you want to life is short
"bc i was like how do you see that?'' she didn't deny Camren. she just she was mad that people could see it :) just saying...
The Eclipse That's make NON SENSE for me! What's about Lucy tho???? Everybody in the whole world could see it????
I know I'm 10 months late but she was talking about bisexuality not camren
As a non FH fan I'm 100% sure there was SOMETHING goin on.....perhaps they had played too many games and lost themselves in it....
Lauren's "Okay"(s) always break my heart. I frequently marvel over the idea that she ends up with Camila's album on loop quite often. Again, with that "Okay" sighing out of her lips, and eyes fixated on 3Am moons! Okay I am getting emotional again, but I really wish things were more easy for them, I do. I just want both of them to be happy.
This is so beautifully sad
Make a video about camren today, I mean this year 2019. Thanksss!
When love hits life - sometimes you just die.
The best channels are the most underrated @Son Of Camren Thankyou for this.
Camren will always be like my favorite fairytale i will be telling my children this love story before bedtime every night. Wheter they where real or not (it'll always be real for me) a beautiful story deserves to be told and live long and forever.❤
I've put my camren heart in cryosleep to save myself from the hurt (mainly from Lauren), but this channel brings light to things. Keep up the good work.
Such an emotional video! Oh, camren feels.. Thank you so much for this and kudos!!! 🙌❤
the ending of your video s so sweet especially using that gorgeous song...
this really fucked me up, so many emotions
10:30 was too much for me to handle. I do hope someday, somehow...
Christina Brown As heartbreaking as that scene is ,... doesn’t it make you think like right before Camila sneakily reaches for Lauren’s hand like what was going thru her mind???? Was she like testing Lauren ? Did she think the cameraman couldn’t catch that? Was she just caught up in the moment? Like what was she thinking ? What exactly was going thru her mind? I really wish I knew, & Idk man , I have had many many doubts about Camren being 100% real after watching so many videos but I think that this , this clip alone proves so much , Camilas actions are so subliminally mysterious but at the same time give away so much. It’s crazy.
Baby gazelle3190, you just blew my mind 🤯. And yes, I completely agree... it could be one of those many scenarios you just described... but we will never know. I just hope one day, they get to finally be together freely, if that’s what’s really what fate has in store for both of them. All these PR relationship is too much. I honestly can’t stand that Ty and Matthew guy, but there’s nothing we can do about it.
& then in 11:56-11:59 Camila puts her head on Lauren’s shoulder & smiles & Lauren proceeds to put her head on top of Camilas & they both smile like they’re the happiest they’ve ever been in their lives & I feel like it’s Lauren’s confirmation to Camila about not letting her grab her hands earlier in the interview , kinda like “We’re okay baby” & that’s just so fucking cute like c’mon 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
@@Babygazelle-tm4ut hell yeah, I do wonder all the time. Their body language at times speaks volumes, so much so that, the more you try and analyse it, the more baffling it is to come up with any other possible reasoning.
I am a huge Camren shipper, but I feel like Lauren was always talking about Lucy. Idk how to explain that. I just get this vibe.
another masterpiece to be cherish,thank you😊😊😘😘
Beautiful story ❤️🔥
They were sooo close how could they just 😭 the universe can hurt sometimes
I think lauren was too afraid to go out. Because of all the speculations that will come, but when the time she was ready. She already break her heart, and maybe gathering some courage to fix it. But there are consequences for everything, the question is "is she worthy?"But only time can heal wounds. If it's true love, it will lead you back home. That's where you belong.
I was tearing up at 10:47 tell the end I’m a crying mess☹️😭😭😭
This video is truly amazing. First of all I love your music taste in this. Second of all I agree with all of your thoughts in this. I really loved editing and how nicely it was done. I truly appreciate time you gave in this video. Thank you very much and camren forever ❤️
(also if I made some mistakes sorry for my English :) )
I love videos like this, yours are so beautifully made
omg. this video is so emo, yet so amazing, thank you for this vid!!!333
The Night We Met fits this so much it hurts
A have mild psychic ability and this video just triggered something in my head and I think I’m gonna cry. Everything just came to me like a fact their relationship was so toxic and now I see how ‘Who are you’ is so accurate 😭
Loosing a friend that was close to u like this hurts for real. Relationship or not they were really close friends 😞
7:22 i want to give her a hug :( i've gotchu lauren
EVERYONE DM LAUREN SAYING THAT THERES STILL HOPE AND WE WILL LOVE TO SEE THEM TOGETHER
I agree yall....this was the first video that presented the camren story in a way that was so real, almost TOO real, where I found myself actually feeling really devastated imagining the reality of the heartbreak that potentially occurred...usually I just smile and enjoy camren vids lol but this made me cry
I just love ur channel❤
Mannn dude first you put ocean eyes on the first video NOW THE NIGHT WE MET?!?!, DAMMM YOU REALLY HURT meeeee😂💔
7:02 - 7:23 it hurts so bad..
Camila always with the "somebody" and "person" talk
I've been in a similar situation, there was this girl who I had a crush on who one day kissed me. We kept kissing, hugging and acting like a couple til summer break. During the summer she just disappeared and I was really hurt cause the crush turned into more in the mean time. Then the next school year came around and she acted like we never kissed and that really broke me, I think I cried over her for a good month. Then, one day, one of the friends we had in common told me she was struggling with her sexuality and hated herself for kissing me so she was trying to forget. To this day I haven't heard of her and she changed school, and I still regret the fact we didn't talk to each other and tried to figure things out together. But we were normal teens who had their time to process things, Camren on the other end was in the spotlight 24/7 and that's, in my opinion, what fucked everything up for them
I love your channelllllll!!!! I just subscribed today tho but ive been watching your vids for a while now. And i love every vid 💜💜💜
10:04 Well We dont REALLY KNOW if Camila *walked away first* But we do know PUBLICLY she left 5H But how could we be sure Camila walked away How many unresolve fights, misunderstanding they had, emotional breakdown did they endure behind the scenes for the past years of being together in the group? My point is there's no fine line between victim blaming of the two or who suffered more, I think in the end they're both the victim
This is honestly so true..like lauren actually always tried to deny the fact tt she was bi and she got angry even then, but when camren was also too much, maybe she also denied it to herself and got angry cause that was how she expressed things..maybe
I'm so confused Lauren dated her best friend Lucy on and off but as I can see there still friends but what make Camila different it's weird to me the situation
I don't know if it's real tho I believe it is but if it was it's so freaking heartbreaking to just imagine that this could've been something possible to happened anyways great video
lo was hurt back there when Camilla was asked if she's single or not n Camila answered she's single. worst of realtionship when u know u r together but u r not in it..that what lo felt there.
I don't think they were together at that point and that's why Lauren was sad cause she knew that Camila was single and there were a lot who'd go after her
Leigh Marco Camilla was the reason Lauren came out. her attraction to girls awaken again by Camilla.she felt it with her. but this particular part aftr Camilla said she's single affected Lauren probably she was expecting something from her which would push her to step up bring it on the Carmen thing to us but so hard for Camilla to put into words when almost too much for her alone. n even if she did reveal the truth between them but fear took over them. . I think the feeling was real ,they are obvious,and when they are almost close to risking it out loud what they have it just breaks them because their career was getting in the line. but I hope one day they will.
We love a good camren channel also this is a really good theory about camren ♥️👌🏽
in order to be happy, we must be true to our self we must know how to forgive to release our stress.
2:46 killed me!!!
Another amazing video as usual! I'll spill some of my thoughts about it soon :)
Daaang this made so much sense
Your vid is the only camren vid that got me fucked up for real. The aproach is mature and well arranged. It makes sense because after all those tangle narratives and mixed up interviews, lying etc, in the end they are only human. Young girls with love that caught in the middle of the spotlight. At this point in 2019, i really just waiting for their music to tell their story in someway... but man this break my heart 💔
7:02 Lauren looks so hurt. I feel like maybe they talked abt them coming out as a couple but Camila was and still is in denial. You can see it all over her face 7:06 too
I started crying when my favorite song came on ( the night we met ) 2:50
Brissa Flores bruh me too💔
7:07 OH MY GOD I HAVENT SEEN THIS CLIP BEFORE
*THE LOOK ON LAUREN'S FACE SAYS IT ALL* 💀
I am the first one watch this. Thank you for doing this!
welcome:)
Only if Camila comes out as well.. Otherwise Lauren approaching her is not gonna end well in the long run
Yep... Your totally right
I don't want Lauren to risk a chance of admitting that she have feelings for camila. It's so dangerous and very bad decision as well.
Cause what if camila choose to hurt her as a payback of what Lauren did to her before?...idw that to happen... It's so risky and very low chance that it ended in a good way.
Better that they let it stay this way for now and let the destiny works for them...
If they we're destined to be a partner in life, Time will answer all of that.
i think the main problem was communication, instead of talking bout the issues, they kept getting back at each other... like the halsey's strangers video where they kept giving punches to one another until one of them is down and out... maybe camila got sick and tired of it.. coz if ur really inlove with that other person that would be so freaking hard.. you'll go out of your mind with confusion... the love, the hate and all the inbetweens... haha! i know bcoz ive felt that way bout someone before... actually camrenship made me realize how one sided the love that i had for that person... it took me almost 2 years to finally get over it.. all those time (especially at the beginning) it felt as if my heart is being ripped out of my chest.. and all i wanted to do is to make it stop hurting....
This video makes me cry😭.
all i understand is camila was really hurt by them especially lauren. and i hope they’ll reunite with the good terms one day.
Wow excelente video me encanto, lo único que sería Bueno subtítulos en español para que los CS latinos lo vean seria muy bueno... excelente ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I literally cried for this
7:00 She says she loves spanish boys but shacked up with an ol white man and Shawn mendes hahaha okayyyyy girl
7:49 Dinah was the only one who didn’t “make a joke” at it like she is the only one who is serious😕
She look so sad, i miss caminah 🥺💔
They where young before and they don't know how to handle it ... About Lauren she is confused and after she accepted that she is bi then Camila was gone ... 😢 I'm still hoping that they are meant for each other it's not because that gay thing but because they are connected by hearts😢😢😢
Why did I cry?! I'm not even on my periods....I miss them together ❤
Idk how thing get in their world , but they used to leve each other ,maybe they still do . But it was like Lauren said Toxic , it’s toxic being with someone and not having the choice to be happy with them , insecurities,no communication, where the base of their pain . But I don’t relate Camila’s departure of the group with Lauren , that was her choice of being free ,maybe it help her growing from camren or maybe help her to just said Stop . We have a lot that we don’t know . Someday they will talk and speak , maybe they fix things maybe not maybe they just stay this way .
So emotional😢
Ik what camila means when she said about knowing whatever the thing they both had was because sometimes when u and another girl like each other its complicated as hell u don't even know what ur relations are with the other girl cause shit so complicated u ain't friends u ain't together cause u can't be or whatever so then what r u people that get jealous when showing affection to other people always wanting to hold their hand and just cuddling that sure ain't friends but they weren't in an official relationship so if it ever happens basically ur both sat there having all these feelings and u know u like each other but u dk what to do maybe u didn't want to come to terms with it because u don't know if its a phase or if its who u are maybe being afraid or just being ashamed of urself or what other people think it's just so hard and ik from experience I never thought love was so bad until one person comes along and completely changes ur views they deffinately had feelings for each other its just with everything they didn't know what to do with the feelings they had and I feel so horrible to both of them because I'm going through the exact same Thing :(
I'm a Camren Shipper, so dont get me wrong. In your last video, i did mention about "MAYBE Camren Shippers took away their privileged of confirming their own sexuality." The first scene (interview) just prove it all. Just to add, not just CS but also ppl. Maybe Lauren denied it cause she doesnt know what bi/lesbian/gay is. She was just 16 when Camren started right? As she grew older, she knows about LGBT more, then she is comfortable with her own self, admitted she was bi (2016) and accepted her own sexuality.This goes the same with Camila (except she never confirm her own as far as i know). But i believe the signs are there. Love needs time.
I clearly remember your comments. I appreciate how you analyze and share your thoughts. Well said:)
Son Of Camren thank you. I love your vids tho. Keep it up. Hope they can find their way back to each other. Soulmate deserves each other. :') looking forward to your next vid!
Camila was so ready to say it all. Always teasing that it was never about a boy. She wanted to yell that to the world. Lauren was quiet about it. So she wasn’t ready. There was also a lot of jealousy going on. So Lauren told her to quit it. Since the Camden shippers made it hard. CMila backed offf finally. And you can tell she was torn. Seeing both of them cry in between their concerts. They are a magnet waiting to be pulled together.
Mostly management separating them.
Idk why if they’d be a popular power couple.
Thy look beautiful together.
Because if it was all fake then there’s no need to hide the friendship atleast.
Poked my heart! Ouch! 😭💔
2:47 sometimes you just die..... Fuck you can feel the pain on that
I dont know you..but i love you.
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And for this video , I’ll definitely subscribe 😍😍
Lauren: i wasn't ready
Camila in that one infamous interview "when shes ready ....but i learned that"
they were so young.. It happened so quick. that's why.. 😢
This is just my opinion and POV. There are so many things that happened in between them that we don’t know about. I don’t even think they were OFFICIALLY together but instead were doing, acting and feeling like lovers do. They were both too young and were still figuring themselves out plus is even harder when you’re in the spotlight with the fans, a management, etc. I feel like when Lauren finally accepted herself and was ready to make it official in between them Camila was already tired of all the things they were going through. I feel like Camila kind of walked away from their situationship to be in an easier relationship with a man because she was scared of the world and the pressure of it, I even think that her family didn’t even know what was going on between her and Lauren because to this day I feel like she really doesn’t want to label herself. Camila walking away from the whole thing hurt Lauren deeply and the tension that was already in 5H got even worse, it was obvious that they felt uncomfortable at the very end before Camila leaving. Which makes me think that the other girls kind of took sides about the whole situation. In those last concerts with Camila they all look down specially Lauren. I think all this pressure plus the pressure of the management and music made Camila leave the group. They were both heartbroken. I think that nowadays they are still struggling to heal from that relationship because there are many feelings of resentment, guilt, love involve. I think maybe in a couple more years when they realize that they are mature enough to talk they for sure will.
My heart hurts so bad
Lauren coming out is the biggest camren proof there is 💯
Lauren was not ready to come out, Camila was ready to risk it all😢 so many songs Camila wrote tell the story. Camila has not denied Camren and when she talks about her songs she has said “person” and we all know what that means. We might see them shine but I’m sure deep down they regret not making their relationship work. They would have made a powerful couple in every aspect….
Maybe their really just friends and you kinda get that vibe like oh shit maybe their more than friends but you don't know.
Like cardi b says "it's gonna heat me to lose you but loiveing you wors "
I'm crying I wish I had a relationship like camren I've never dated and I really wanna love someone