Tough to tell… coming from the good old QC35ii as my daily commute drivers I chose the S2e now. Must say ANC is really next level. With sound quality it’s kind of the same. The B&W are much more linear and richer. Also their look and feel, gorgeous. However, Bose’s wearing comfort is still slightly better. So, it’s probably a close call if the new QC Ultra are so similar to the B&Ws.
How have you sound the B&W compared to the xm5? The xm5s much cheaper ATM so undecided where to go next. I had the MU7s but unfortunately dreadful design and headband cracked after very little and careful use
I have to say I have always been Bose but lately i have been frustrated with my NC700 one minute I listening and watching netflix on my mac and then i pause the video and play again and no sound from the NC700's I have to reconnect them. so now I'm looking at the PX7 S2E but nervous because I've seen some bad build issue around the head band, love the look of them from the box but after a year will they still look good, I don't know 😞
So here it goes.. I was recently going through the same predicament as many of you are and was on the fence deciding between the QC Ultra or the Px7 S2e (such a nice problem to have - am I right?). While watching and reading online reviews might help to an extent, I ended up having to find a store where I could try them both before. Before this trial session, I was 80% sure of my decision to go with the Ultras. Long story short, I left the store with the Px7 S2e's. Here is why: -Sound: While this is a very subjective topic, I found the sound quality to be much better on the Px7 S2e's than with the Ultras. Not sure if this was because of the always on (and strong) ANC on the Ultras - but they sounded muffled and very flat (other than a good amount of base it lacked character). It is worth mentioning that I had to fine tune the EQs on each before I had something that sounded pleasant. But even after that, I still found the Px7 S2e's to be better sounding in general -Controls: This ended up being a huge deciding factor for me thanks to the listening session. I found the controls on the Px7 S2e's much more accessible and easier to use than the Ultras. On the Ultras, I kept touching the volume slider accidentally (lowering or increasing the volume by mistake) and had a hard time identifying the single button by touch or using it for the playback options. It is literally one button for 4 or more different actions. The Px7 S2e's have more than one single button and physical volume buttons that you can easily identify by touch. Furthermore, you have another button on the left ear cup for ANC controls -ANC: Bose has better ANC but you cannot have it turned off. While the ANC on the Px7 S2e's aren't as good as the Ultra's I still found it great and sufficient for my use case. My commute isn't long and I don't travel much these days. I mostly my Px7 S2e's for music and gaming at home. I did find the lack of an "off" option on the Ultras to be an interesting design choice by Bose. I like having to option to do so - I guess this also explains why the Px7 S2e's have better battery life -Fancy audio: The Ultras feature transparency and immersive/spatial audio modes while the Px7 S2e's does not. This could be a deciding factor for you if you enjoy watching movies with a headset on. But It wasn't for me.The Px7 S2e's only feature ANC on, pass-through and ANC off -Wired playback: the Px7 S2e's works with USB-C/wired playback while the Ultras don't. You can use the included AUX cable on the Ultras but can't imagine it would work well with higher bit rate content -Headset build/quality: I'm not sure how this is point is up for debate. If you have access to both, you will notice immediately that the Px7 S2e's have better materials and feel more premium. The Bose QC Ultras are entirely made out of plastic and feel flimsy the moment they are handed to you. This, however, is great for weight. But I have had no issues with the weight of the Px7 S2e's -Fitting: This is another one that I benefited from the trial session. I have an average sized head and found that the Px7 S2e's fit me better and the Ultras were a big on the bigger size. I have to assume that the fitting could have also impacted the sound quality with the lack of a better seal. But in general, I feel that most people forget about fitting when looking for headphones. One size or configuration does not fit all in some cases. -Pricing: With all of the above being considered, the Px7 S2e's are cheaper than the Bose QC Ultra I hope this was helpful to you. Let me know if you have more questions!
I’m in the same predicament between the px7se, the QC ULTRAS and possibly xm5s but am so indecisive at the moment. I’m no audiophile at all, in fact I’m not accustomed to using EQ settings on headphones other than the pre listed ones given by the headphones app. So I’m wondering if I would even benefit from the px7se sound quality or if the Bose QC Ultra would be better suited as this will be my first purchase into the premium headphone world. Also the build quality is some what of a concern for me especially at this price point. What would you recommend?
I purchased the Ultra’s to replace the QC35II that I use primarily for air travel. I also bought the QC Ultra Buds. I am totally impressed with the fit and the fantastic ANC of the buds so much so that if I had it to do over again I might just have purchased just the buds. If you’re on the fence you won’t be dissatisfied with either of the Bose products.
@@Yo-vv7iyI have both of them, and Also BW Px7s2e... ANC and sound quality 1 - Bose QC Ultra earbuds, 2 - Bose QC Ultra head, 3 - BW PX7. Premium aspect BW PX7 is the winner.
@@Yo-vv7iy for me Earbuds. But they use to say Headphones. I do not agree with them. Also, I have Bose quietcomfort earbuds 1 and 2. Ultra earbuds is better them both and they made an adjustment on Ultra to hold the rubber.
I have the XM5, Bose QC Ultra and the PS2e here for testing. The XM5 have been my daily since they came out. In Terms of pure Sound the B&W win hands down. However in terms of ANC they are utterly bad for their price point. Since most people care about ANC features for commuting or loud office environments.. they aint it. Bose however surprised me. I never liked Bose because the older models put some kind of locked room pressure on my ears, but the QC Ultra are amazing, aber they actually blow the XM5 away in terms of ANC. I tested in special environments since i work in a datacenter with VERY LOUD high pitch blade center fans, and its not even comparable how much better the bose are.
I recently purchased the Bowers & Wilkins Px7 S2e's and can confirm that I am in fact watching this video to justify a decision I've already made. Edit: I love them, they are gorgeous!
Great choice, I still use the original B&W PX from 2017 and they sound way better than any of the new Sony headphones. I'll be getting the PX7e soon too.
"I can only confirm that they are truly impressively good. I'm amazed at how much better they sound than the already very good Sony WH-1000XM3. I also believe that, in the end, it's the better deal because they also support aptX, allowing you to get great sound quality over Bluetooth."
In general I was a long time user of Sony WH series headphones.....until I tried B&W. The sound signature out of the box which B&W has is definitely my favorite. I did try PX7S2 after using of Sony XM4 and 5. I simply loved it and because of that I decided to go further and bought PX8. Now after many hours of "burning them" I can recommend them to any music lovers who are looking for ANC closed back headphones.
@@jefferrrson1x depends what you are looking for. In terms of comfort, PX8 is on other level, same with build quality and used materials. I personally found them much more comfortable and robust. In terms of sound quality, PX8 are more spacious for my taste, with middles more emphasized. Some guys mentioned, that carbon fiber cons require few 100h to warm up and show their full potential.
mmm thanks for the reply sir. i got the airpods max and was looking for something more substantial.. i really like bass so hopefully they have a more rich low end. @@DamianNocun
@@DamianNocuni heard burn is a myth but the px8 sound better than the old px7 s2 for sure. Theres not much you can complain about i just missed a little from the deep base from the momentum 4 but this could be a taste question.
As a frequent traveller, ANC and wearing comfort are the primary points I care about. I have the QC35 and was pretty happy with them until the mic died, not just making it impossible to make calls but probably also affecting the ANC. I still use them for any audio output, be it on phone or computer, but because of the mic issue, they will need to be replaced. As reviews seemed to indicate the QC35, 700, and QC45 didn't significantly improve on ANC and Sony started to get ahead with their XM3, I was eyeing towards Sony but the XM3 didn't allow to connect more than one device, if I remember correctly and the padding was thinner so you'd get irritated ears after wearing them for a long time (not an issue for me with the QC35 which I often wear the whole day at home). XM4 or XM5 have solved those issues according to reviews, so I was almost about to get the XM5 but was a bit annoyed you can't fold them anymore like the previous models. So it seems the QC Ultras should get a chance, in particular with the improved ANC, even though it's also a bit annoying that you can use them while charging for whatever stupid reason (you can use your phone, laptop etc while charging, so why not your headphones)
Own both and if you want the better ANC, then the Bose. If you're very sensitive to headphone weight, not that the Bowers are "heavy", but the Bose are lighter. The Bowers for me sound significantly better - the Bose sound "fine", the Bowers sound engaging. Unless I need to block out environmental noise above all else, there's no reason for me to grab the Bose. But the other thing to keep in mind is when do you plan on using them. If you're using them walking, out and about, you likely aren't in an "active listening" mode and I can see people thinking maybe they sound similar. But if you plan on using them at home, on the couch, while relaxing - the Bowers, especially with the new firmware, sound a lot better.
I have the Bose QC Ultra, and I am returning them. I need to be able to use them with a cable, and they are quiet on max volume when plugging into my 16-inch MacBook Pro. I shall now try the Px7 S2e. (you have to love Amazon returns!)
Strange, my ultras on the Macbook 16 Pro Max M1 are fine. Same as my QC 35ii. Just make sure you slide up the buttonless volume. I may return, they are less comfortable for long wear and make my ears sweatier
Great review. Always been a Bose freak but got into Bowers & Wilkins due to the awesome sound system in my Jaguar. I have now ordered the PX7 se’s to replace my old QC35’s which will be recycled to my Dad. Really looking forward to receiving them, I am sure I will be happy with them. Thank you for the content, very informative 👍.
I owned the Px7 S2. While I have no complaints about the sound, design and comfort, I was really disappointed that the foam on the earcups came off after 3-4 months of use. B&W doesn't make it easy to replace them, adding to my exasperation. There's no spares available in the market so you have to send the headphones to B&W to get them repaired.
I had this same issue, I just returned the whole thing to Best Buy and got a new pair which is dumb because they will probably throw a perfectly good set of headphones away because of a annoying yet ultimately minor defect.
I genuinely have a cart of B&W replacement parts on their web rn for forest green Px7 s2e They have far more replacement options than my Bose QC Ultras.
From across the Pond, I can't help it! I AM a Bowers & Wilkins guy. I STILL use my blue & gold B&W PX's, my Bowers & Wilkins PX7 and now, probably the PX8 in burgundy? OR Tan??? I really appreciate the build quality. None of the others compare in that department!! Thanks for a great review!!! Dan
I bought a B&W headphone set for air travel and noise cancelling. I took the Px7 S2 on a flight recently and was disappointed in how much jet noise was coming through. And the well-built case was bulky. Last week I brought an Ultra set on a flight and, yes, it really silences the jet noise. And, the case is more compact. The Px7 was returned. But, I really liked the sound on the Px7 and was surprised that listening through the USB cable seemed to sound better. The Ultra also have great sound. YHMV. At home, my headphone of choice is Sennheiser HD660 plugged into a Fiio DAC/Amp with balanced cables.
Great breakdown, side-by-side comparison, and conclusion. I was curious about your conclusions when you indicated that this video would be coming out, because I want great instrument separation, and I want vocals to be crisp, clear, and out in front of my music, which both these headphones seem to offer. In the end, as you point out, I would consider myself a “Bose person” (even though I don’t always actually trust their products), and that’s why I went that way. Also, I would like the stronger ANC, I listen to more energetic music and am looking for a strong low end, and Bose seems to have a promising Immersive Audio that I want to check out. I ordered a pair of the Bose yesterday.
Sold my Px7S2, did not like the clamping force, the tiny buttons, the weak ANC and the huge case. They look premium and the material is great but in the end the Bose is the much better package for me. No regrets at all.
I bought the Bose QC Ultra, I am really satisfied with it overall. ANC and aware mode is really good, the best ANC I experienced. But there are a few a drawbacks that makes it hard to justify the price of the Bose. The case is small, but feels cheap, battery life is okay, but compared to others I need to charge it after 2 days instead of 3-4, quickcharge is really bad. I use it for work, listening to music and calls. The Focal and the Sony charges enough in the middle of the day to last for the day, but I needed to leave the Bose on the charger for an hour and need a replacement for that time. Also with the Focal if it was empty i just popped in the usb-c cable while listening to music no problem, this cant be done with the Bose. The build quality feels really cheap compared to headphones in this price range. I really like them, and going to keep them, sound is ok and it is comfortable, however if ANC is not important, there are better cheaper headphones on the market.
@@youssefhaytham6571 Unfortunetally, i dont own the s2e, but i think if you have an iphone, then Airpods max, if not Focal Bathys. If you want a cheap good sounding headphone with not so good anc then Sennheiser Momentum 3 (its quite old now but to me it sounded good) or Momentum 4, which has a good ANC, and good sound. If you are okay with the compromises i mentioned with the QC Ultra, then it is also a good choice, ANC is really good, and sound is okay.
For sound only, bowers. I however do teams calls everyday in a WFH. Surface laptop 4 for work. Bose ultra mic is much better. Xm5 mic sounds “weaker” from people on calls with me. Bose 700 mic outperforms the xm5 significantly from people on my calls opinions. Calls. Bose ultra/air pods max > bose 700 > Sony xm5 > S2E
I went with the PX8 2 months ago , but I dont mind getting the Bose Ultra for my wife , shes still using the QC35 from 2019 , I was using the Sony XM3 from 2019 as well and this year I wanted to upgrade , we travel a ton literally about every 5 weeks we are on a plane so good headphones are a must and worth every penny
@@BIGaziz7 Late reply but the px8's earcups are both smaller and more roomy. The sony's earcups are really shallow while the px8 and px7 have an angled driver giving more room. Bose also angles their drivers too.
I’m a Bose person first and foremost. I own 4 pairs of Bose (QC15, QC45, QC & QC Ultra. I actually just purchased a pair of B & W PX7-S2E’s. I love Bose for their sound and comfort, but I must say that the B & W’s is right up there with Bose for comfort. It was a dream of unboxing them and putting them on for the first time. I still have to tweak the sound a little bit, but so far I absolutely love them. Both brands offer great sound, noise cancellation and premium features that are unbeatable. The Bose QC Ultra is my favorite though. The B & W I have to get more familiar with. Thanks for your great reviews. Between you and Gymcaddy you both based on stuff you’ve said in various videos influenced me to ditch Sony for Bose. Both of you for a while chose the QC45’s as your daily drivers which alone said a lot. Thanks again. I always look forward to your reviews.
I got to test them both back to back for phone call. The Px7 S2e wins because it noise cancels background noise while on call. The QC Ultra only shuts off the mic when no talking is detected, but when it is on it picks up everything including environment noise. I tested the call mode out on the busy streets of Hong Kong which is loud! As for playback sound, it is subjective, but I would have to agree with Mark's review. For myself I find the PX7 S2E is the better performer when it comes to the hardware straight out of the box.
I’ve decided on Bose I’ve bought all from the 35 700 45’s so and the sound is excellent with the music I listen to and especially at work with decibel levels over 90 noise cancellation is why
Yeay finally, thanks mate! Appreciate your honest thoughts and top notch production quality. PS: Already bought the S2e and really enjoy them. Decision justified. 😅
Sebastian have you had any issue with build quality? I have seen some reviews and they mention the cushion on the head band came away fro the frame of the band. I really like the look of the PX7 S2e but nervous about spending this kind of money if the fall apart, I have Bose 700 at the moment and I feel I need a change (connection issues with the Bose)
No issues so far with build quality, all rock solid. However,… my pair recently died a sudden death (not charging or turning on). So returned to dealer for repair/ exchange. Shouldn’t hold you back though, as this can happen to any electronic device.
Hey!! I just got the Bose QC Ultra and i love them! Just wanna ask you something, have you tried the Momentum 4? Are they louder than Bose Quietconfort Ultra? It Is the same? Which one is louder? The Momentum 4 was my boy but finally i decided for the Bose because i have the QC Earbuds 1st generation and they are my sunshine haha. Thanks Bro!
I might have purchased both of these! and can echo a lot of this review as I flip-flop between the one I prefer! The B&W I think edge the sound quality, but it is close and they do feel more premium. The ANC on them is I think more than good enough for my daily commute. Not tried them on a flight yet. I think the ANC difference is less evident when actually lisatening to music but is noticeable when the volume dips between tracks for example, maybe you can get away a notch lower volume on the Bose? Maybe The Bose on the other hand flip it around with more than good enough sound and class leading noise cancelling, they are also (IMO) more comfortable and fold down better for my use. I rarely use cases, I prefer to put them in a separate compartment in my work bag. I even used to put my QC45s in my coat pocket. The procrastination is strong with these 2, keep the B&W and I’ll always feel I am missing out on ultimate ANC, keep the bose and I’ll be missing the sound of the B&W!
Thanx for the wonderful review! Your review confirmed my decision to go for Bose (as a replacement for my Apple Airpod Max) because ANC is my top priority, smaller case, and 3 point EQ versus 2 point EQ are sweet bonuses.
Thanks Mark, great comparison. I ordered both a few weeks ago to do the A/B comparison, so I could choose one.. Guess what? I am keeping them both! Can't give either up. I paid amazingly low prices for each one(got lucky). I was still tempted to try the PX8, but for the money already invested in these 2, I will stay put. You described the sound differences very well. They sound really different to me. I love both headphones sound quality! Ultra's are more comfortable for me. A few asked what EQ settings u use for the Bower's, haven't seen a reply on that. As you said, can't go wrong with either one. I guess I am a Bowers/Bose person!
Bought the s2e 5 months ago and only now did I realise the cables were in the flipping block in the middle of the case. I was outsmarted by a headphone case 💀💀
I would never call myself a audiophile but they sound pretty different to me. Both arent bad but i dont hear the 500€ sound from the bose. Its just the normal 300 € sound and the px7 s2e are half a step above that. Not much but you hear more from the music and you can dive deeper into it. The bose gets 4/5 and the px 7 s2e gets 4,5 from me.
Px7 by miles. I bought the px7 and my uncle bought the momentum. The px7 sounds more accurate and smoother, plus, it looks more stylish and interesting
In trialling them both - the Bose is more accomplished in connecting to multi devices. The app has way more fun features. The Bluetooth connection has about a third more reach from a remote source. Here’s a shout out to purchasing refurbished headphones from Bose at a third discount. They just clean up ones that are sent back and they seem like brand new. Also the active noise cancellation is best in class. I do miss the B&W as they were also very nice, they just had less interior volume and made my ears hurt after a few hours of wear.
The Bose are the only active noise cancellation that deals with a bloke in the office with a deep baritone booming voice. He gets nicely attenuated out of the picture by about 90%. The B&Ws only managed to kill him off about 50%. If ANC is your deal breaker definately go with the Bose. Or wear wax earplugs. His voice carries about 50m easily and even through a toilet wall. The Bose reduce him to a very low volume mumble. Stick a device source on top - he’s history!
I have the B&Ws, but I don’t find them comfortable on long haul flights as someone who wears glasses, though I love the design, look and premium feel, and the case. I was considering changing them for the Bose QC Ultra. Now I’m really not sure. A luxury problem, I know. Thanks for the video. Good work.🎉
I'm in a difficult position, tried both at the shops. Absolutely love the sound quality of the B&W's! They blew everything else out the water. Tested a number of headphones, they were the ones for me. But the noise cancelling is garbage, I could hear people talking 15-20 feet away with the ANC on. Is that the same for everybody else? I need noise cancelling for long drives on my van and flying. The bose had great noise cancellation but didn't sound great....the Sony X4 & X5's, Sonos, and JBL's were all pants.
This is one of the videos thay helped me make my final decision! The sound quality is amazing and the headphones themselves feel very luxurious. The only thing im concerned about is a quiet clicking noise in the left headphone whenever I move my head a certain way. I wonder if it's a common occurrence or if my headphones are defective. Or maybe I'm looking much too into it. 😅
Just got my super nice Forest Green Px7 S2e headphones today, after testing them thoroughly in the store against a few other contenders. They're awesome. Very comfortable (the Momentum 4 were kicked out for that reason) and they sound just amazing. Funnily enough, the store didn't even sell any Bose devices anymore because of too many RMA requests and Bose's shitty handling of them. 😅 My QC35 wouldn't turn off anymore at some point without extensive use (the switch is only rated for 5000!!! actuations) while the QC35II's headband wouldn't stay extended anymore, always getting tighter while walking around with them. That's two for two regarding bad manufacturing quality, so no more Bose for me.
Had nothing but problems with the QC Ultra that has been owned for only two weeks. Creaking headband, popping/crackling noise in the left ear cup (also occurs when the headphones are turned off so it's not the ANC) when walking even gently or with head movements. Will be returning them and getting the px7 se2 (can't afford the px8). Bose's quality control seems to be very lax these days. The audio quality is great to my ears and the ANC is top notch however what's the point when one of the cups rattles/pops whenever you move your head or walk?
Hi mark Love your reviews! I’m currently sitting between 3 options, the Bose qc45 , the pxs2e and the senheiser momentum 4. All are for the exact same price. Personally for me as a student Im looking for comfort, Sound quality and then noise cancelling capabilities as I’m coming from a budget senheiser 450bt, any three would blow me out of the water with ANC😂
Gosh bro... Your video really helped me to make a choice. Listen to music is my everyday and i love Gorillaz, the bass on their songs is 🔥😍🔥😍 Oh, and the volume is very important. So i think the Bose ones is the better option right?
PX7's have to be charged to be used wired! Something I found a big downside as if you're using them wired is because you probably ran out of battery!.. Love your reviews mate! keep it up
@@emilioesteban7355 Yes, you can used the QuietComfort (non-Ultra) powered off over analog or powered on, so it doesn't require charge. The Ultras (and as you mentioned, the B&Ws) have to be powered on for playback. I ultimately kept the Px7 S2e due to the sound quality and build quality over both, but that's a gripe of mine. I tested the QC, QC Ultra, and Px7 S2e.
Great review and love your style 😊 You didn't do a mic test and the Bose wins that one - add in far better transparency mode (the B&W is more "opaque mode"), and the Bose work better then for home office as well as audio. Struggling to justify £449 though..😮
your reviews for headphones/earphones are best..enjoying while watching you like watching a good movie on .netflix, thanks for review appreciated your efforts i own curreny B&W PI7 S2 earphones..and previously owned many bose, sony, all market products. B&W sound signature is definitely another level .) if i switched to headphones one day. PX8 will be surely my choice no doubt !
I must say that I have never heard a Bose product that had quality sound. Boomy, yes, loud and a bit harsh, yes, refined and detailed, no. I have not heard these, but I can’t help being skeptical
I got the Bowers & Wilkins PX7 S2E because I was looking for headphones with exceptionally clear sound that sound great. I watched many reviews, and the sound was often rated slightly better than the Bose Ultra. I've never heard the Ultra, but I find it hard to imagine that Bose can reproduce the sound as clearly as the PX7 S2E. The overall package is better, and the design and build quality are highly praised.
@@serrael-182 But what good is the greatest sound in the world if you can't hear it due to extraneous noise??? This has been my dilemma with the PX7's. Also, the Bose Ultra has a new sound signature which is apparently the best yet.
I found the bose ultras 350€ and the px7 2e 420€ are the bose at a good deal to get them over the bowers and wilkins? What I will be using them most are in airplanes so I need a good noise cancellation and I value premium feeling headphones
Bought a px7 s2e to try them out few weeks ago. Really good sounding headphones, i even prefer them over the px8 which are a bit too dark for my taste. Overall, and i know its a different price range, I think the focal bathys are the best wireless headphones. Got myself a pair this week and love them. After the burn in phase they will be even better
Hey Mark! Great reviews, as always! I'm currently deciding between these two and the kef mu7's, don't really care too much on the fancy features (spatial audio), just want a pair of headphones that sound great and doesn't require any fiddling around. Leaning towards the mu7's as I had the kef space one wireless. Lemme know what you think!
Watch out with the KEFs. The sound was really good but clear design flaw on them with the headband. I barely used mine and was very careful in putting them back in the case after each use and the headband cracked. I've had to return them to find this is a very common problem with this headphone.
The problem is, new Bose headphones are water down version of original Bose. Been Bose fan for years. Lost old one, got new one , returned to Costco on second day.
I tried the Px7 s2e but had to return them due to the fact that audio would pause randomly when wearing, as if you took them off. Not sure if there was a problem with the wear sensor on mine but otherwise I liked the build and sound quality
I'm so conflicted... I'm looking for change my XM4's and I really want the B&Ws - I love my CM9 floor standers, so B&W sound is obviously a selling point for me. That said, I need NC as I have issues with noise, and so I think I maybe need to stay with Sony... Decicions, decisions....
Epic comparison / review from you once again. Really loving your channel. By the way, Am I losing my mind becuz I could have sworn you actually compared these two a week or so ago? Tell me I’m not going mad please 😆
Hi sir! Do you tried the edifier stax spirit 3? If yes, which one is better sounding between them and bose qc ultra headphones? Do the edifier lacks of bass? Because they have planar magnetic driver and they are not bass focus
I’m getting Bose for noise cancellation function. Do you know if there and adapter or something some I can plug in to watch inflight movies? Hope to get answer before cyber Monday ends. Thanks!
I'm so sad the QC Ultras didn't meet your expectations. I would still buy them anytime, instead of the B&Ws. Honestly don't understand any selling point of these over the QC Ultras.
I have Bose speakers in my house and for my Coms for General Aviation. I had PX7s for travel. They are in need of replacing, I broke mine... I am conflicted.
Bose for me I was hoping for your review on them before I bought jumped in. However I just had to get them pre ordered. I have not been disappointed with them. However I was hugely disappointed with Bose, I went into various Bose named retailers and they had the Ultra Comforts out although none of them were working. When I questioned the shop assistants about this they all said Bose have to come in and set them up. If I hadn't been a huge Bose fan this would have made My Blood boil 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻. They are though just Brilliant headphones 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
So when you listen to bowers and wilkins and then listen to bose ultra does the bose ultra sounds bad after? Hope somebody can comment on this. Thank you
ho avuto; sennheiser 3.sony xm2/3/4,,,ho bang olufsen 9h third generation e varie altre. Ad aprile ho comprato le BW Px7 S2e....ed è stato subito amore puro🥰🥰 per costruzione e materiali è per me la cuffia più bella in assoluto. Audio al livello delle quasi insuperabili sennheiser 2/3/4. L'ANC funziona benissimo...e dato il volume generoso delle cuffie,una volta avviata la musica...è silenzio totale. BW ha investito sul suono e si sente!!!Bose qc ultra le go comprate e restituite dopo 7 giorni.Non al livello delle altre. La musica spaziale è orribile sulle ultra mentre funziona egregiamente sulle airpods pro. Bowers ha in me un fedele cliente...ora e sempre😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
If you tryvthem out don't just use an Iphone since it's only aac codec. You have to try an android phone for the aptx adaptive. On pc you use the alternative driver (12$) and set to aptx adaptive.
I have the Bose and the S2 set. I’m sure I read somewhere that basically the only difference between the s2 and the s2e is purely software. I’m guessing it’s too much to ask there would be an update for the s2.
I'm on the brink of buying the bose headphones, as I want the best possible noice cancelling headphones and spacial audio inclusion is making my choice easy now.
The Ultras are absolutely terrible on public transport or traveling on bumpy surfaces. The Bose are bugged and I recommend to stay well away until they are fixed.
Just got the B&W PX7 S2e and I am in love with them. The only main reasons I got them was the following points: - Balanced detailed sound - High quality build and comfortable to wear - Long battery life - Manufactured in the UK so you know it's outstanding quality unlike other brands which are commonly cheaply made in China, Vietnam or India. - I am a fan of buttons, unlike other headphone brands that are focused on touch controls, which I despise due to accidental touches and sensitivity. Although Bose is a good brand for sound as well as noise-cancelling, I have had instances with QCiis where I have had to replace them or switch to another brand like Sennheiser, simply because the battery life deteriorated over time.
Hi Jack, I am about to purchase the PX7 S2E but I have seen some build issues with previous model and also the PX8, have you had any issues with your PX7 S2E's ??
@@garym3817 I do know that the original PX7 wasn't as good with sound as I saw them as 'too quiet' sounding as at the time I had to get them swapped for a pair of Senheiser Momentum 3s at the time. I got the headphones mainly because I can't stand using touch controls and I wanted the same quality (or better) than my previous headphones and I must say they do send Sony, Bose and Senheiser running for their money.
@@johnnyvvlog yes they are! Stop telling lies! Their factory is in Worthing, Sussex. I know this because they were a client of mine and I've visited the factory......
Are you a Bose or Bowers & Wilkins kinda person?
Tough to tell… coming from the good old QC35ii as my daily commute drivers I chose the S2e now. Must say ANC is really next level. With sound quality it’s kind of the same. The B&W are much more linear and richer. Also their look and feel, gorgeous. However, Bose’s wearing comfort is still slightly better. So, it’s probably a close call if the new QC Ultra are so similar to the B&Ws.
B&W for me :) soundstage is better, vocals are more clear.
How have you sound the B&W compared to the xm5? The xm5s much cheaper ATM so undecided where to go next. I had the MU7s but unfortunately dreadful design and headband cracked after very little and careful use
I have to say I have always been Bose but lately i have been frustrated with my NC700 one minute I listening and watching netflix on my mac and then i pause the video and play again and no sound from the NC700's I have to reconnect them. so now I'm looking at the PX7 S2E but nervous because I've seen some bad build issue around the head band, love the look of them from the box but after a year will they still look good, I don't know 😞
B&W
So here it goes.. I was recently going through the same predicament as many of you are and was on the fence deciding between the QC Ultra or the Px7 S2e (such a nice problem to have - am I right?). While watching and reading online reviews might help to an extent, I ended up having to find a store where I could try them both before. Before this trial session, I was 80% sure of my decision to go with the Ultras. Long story short, I left the store with the Px7 S2e's. Here is why:
-Sound: While this is a very subjective topic, I found the sound quality to be much better on the Px7 S2e's than with the Ultras. Not sure if this was because of the always on (and strong) ANC on the Ultras - but they sounded muffled and very flat (other than a good amount of base it lacked character). It is worth mentioning that I had to fine tune the EQs on each before I had something that sounded pleasant. But even after that, I still found the Px7 S2e's to be better sounding in general
-Controls: This ended up being a huge deciding factor for me thanks to the listening session. I found the controls on the Px7 S2e's much more accessible and easier to use than the Ultras. On the Ultras, I kept touching the volume slider accidentally (lowering or increasing the volume by mistake) and had a hard time identifying the single button by touch or using it for the playback options. It is literally one button for 4 or more different actions. The Px7 S2e's have more than one single button and physical volume buttons that you can easily identify by touch. Furthermore, you have another button on the left ear cup for ANC controls
-ANC: Bose has better ANC but you cannot have it turned off. While the ANC on the Px7 S2e's aren't as good as the Ultra's I still found it great and sufficient for my use case. My commute isn't long and I don't travel much these days. I mostly my Px7 S2e's for music and gaming at home. I did find the lack of an "off" option on the Ultras to be an interesting design choice by Bose. I like having to option to do so - I guess this also explains why the Px7 S2e's have better battery life
-Fancy audio: The Ultras feature transparency and immersive/spatial audio modes while the Px7 S2e's does not. This could be a deciding factor for you if you enjoy watching movies with a headset on. But It wasn't for me.The Px7 S2e's only feature ANC on, pass-through and ANC off
-Wired playback: the Px7 S2e's works with USB-C/wired playback while the Ultras don't. You can use the included AUX cable on the Ultras but can't imagine it would work well with higher bit rate content
-Headset build/quality: I'm not sure how this is point is up for debate. If you have access to both, you will notice immediately that the Px7 S2e's have better materials and feel more premium. The Bose QC Ultras are entirely made out of plastic and feel flimsy the moment they are handed to you. This, however, is great for weight. But I have had no issues with the weight of the Px7 S2e's
-Fitting: This is another one that I benefited from the trial session. I have an average sized head and found that the Px7 S2e's fit me better and the Ultras were a big on the bigger size. I have to assume that the fitting could have also impacted the sound quality with the lack of a better seal. But in general, I feel that most people forget about fitting when looking for headphones. One size or configuration does not fit all in some cases.
-Pricing: With all of the above being considered, the Px7 S2e's are cheaper than the Bose QC Ultra
I hope this was helpful to you. Let me know if you have more questions!
This comment is better than the click bait review video
thank you!!
best comment ever.
thanks, very helpful as I am trying to decide myself
I’m in the same predicament between the px7se, the QC ULTRAS and possibly xm5s but am so indecisive at the moment. I’m no audiophile at all, in fact I’m not accustomed to using EQ settings on headphones other than the pre listed ones given by the headphones app. So I’m wondering if I would even benefit from the px7se sound quality or if the Bose QC Ultra would be better suited as this will be my first purchase into the premium headphone world. Also the build quality is some what of a concern for me especially at this price point. What would you recommend?
I purchased the Ultra’s to replace the QC35II that I use primarily for air travel. I also bought the QC Ultra Buds. I am totally impressed with the fit and the fantastic ANC of the buds so much so that if I had it to do over again I might just have purchased just the buds. If you’re on the fence you won’t be dissatisfied with either of the Bose products.
Who do you think have better ANC between QC ultra earbuds and headset ? Thanks 😊
@@Yo-vv7iy I’d say the headset. The buds are good too but definitely the over ear.
@@Yo-vv7iyI have both of them, and Also BW Px7s2e... ANC and sound quality 1 - Bose QC Ultra earbuds, 2 - Bose QC Ultra head, 3 - BW PX7. Premium aspect BW PX7 is the winner.
I also have both ultra buds and headphones both are great and top quality in terms of build,sound and noise cancelling
@@Yo-vv7iy for me Earbuds. But they use to say Headphones. I do not agree with them. Also, I have Bose quietcomfort earbuds 1 and 2. Ultra earbuds is better them both and they made an adjustment on Ultra to hold the rubber.
I have the XM5, Bose QC Ultra and the PS2e here for testing. The XM5 have been my daily since they came out. In Terms of pure Sound the B&W win hands down. However in terms of ANC they are utterly bad for their price point. Since most people care about ANC features for commuting or loud office environments.. they aint it.
Bose however surprised me. I never liked Bose because the older models put some kind of locked room pressure on my ears, but the QC Ultra are amazing, aber they actually blow the XM5 away in terms of ANC.
I tested in special environments since i work in a datacenter with VERY LOUD high pitch blade center fans, and its not even comparable how much better the bose are.
And between the XM5 and the Ultra, which one sound the best to you ?
I recently purchased the Bowers & Wilkins Px7 S2e's and can confirm that I am in fact watching this video to justify a decision I've already made. Edit: I love them, they are gorgeous!
Great choice, I still use the original B&W PX from 2017 and they sound way better than any of the new Sony headphones. I'll be getting the PX7e soon too.
Awesome!
"I can only confirm that they are truly impressively good. I'm amazed at how much better they sound than the already very good Sony WH-1000XM3. I also believe that, in the end, it's the better deal because they also support aptX, allowing you to get great sound quality over Bluetooth."
@@roberts.2290 Sony has a better codec LDAC, but the sound quality is nowhere near as good as B&W. I have the XM4.
@@_Mario_PL_ So do I, although I'm thinking of buying a pair of PX8.
In general I was a long time user of Sony WH series headphones.....until I tried B&W. The sound signature out of the box which B&W has is definitely my favorite. I did try PX7S2 after using of Sony XM4 and 5. I simply loved it and because of that I decided to go further and bought PX8. Now after many hours of "burning them" I can recommend them to any music lovers who are looking for ANC closed back headphones.
Is the PX8 that much better than the PX7 stuff?
@@jefferrrson1x depends what you are looking for. In terms of comfort, PX8 is on other level, same with build quality and used materials. I personally found them much more comfortable and robust. In terms of sound quality, PX8 are more spacious for my taste, with middles more emphasized. Some guys mentioned, that carbon fiber cons require few 100h to warm up and show their full potential.
mmm thanks for the reply sir. i got the airpods max and was looking for something more substantial.. i really like bass so hopefully they have a more rich low end. @@DamianNocun
@@DamianNocuni heard burn is a myth but the px8 sound better than the old px7 s2 for sure. Theres not much you can complain about i just missed a little from the deep base from the momentum 4 but this could be a taste question.
@@serrael-182 believe me, it is not a myth.
I just got the Bose and I absolutely love them.
Clear calls?
Excellent calls
Love mine bose 🙏👍
Great job. Given your comparison and my preferences I would lean towards the Bose, but I could use a bit more British style in my life.
As a frequent traveller, ANC and wearing comfort are the primary points I care about. I have the QC35 and was pretty happy with them until the mic died, not just making it impossible to make calls but probably also affecting the ANC. I still use them for any audio output, be it on phone or computer, but because of the mic issue, they will need to be replaced. As reviews seemed to indicate the QC35, 700, and QC45 didn't significantly improve on ANC and Sony started to get ahead with their XM3, I was eyeing towards Sony but the XM3 didn't allow to connect more than one device, if I remember correctly and the padding was thinner so you'd get irritated ears after wearing them for a long time (not an issue for me with the QC35 which I often wear the whole day at home). XM4 or XM5 have solved those issues according to reviews, so I was almost about to get the XM5 but was a bit annoyed you can't fold them anymore like the previous models. So it seems the QC Ultras should get a chance, in particular with the improved ANC, even though it's also a bit annoying that you can use them while charging for whatever stupid reason (you can use your phone, laptop etc while charging, so why not your headphones)
Own both and if you want the better ANC, then the Bose. If you're very sensitive to headphone weight, not that the Bowers are "heavy", but the Bose are lighter. The Bowers for me sound significantly better - the Bose sound "fine", the Bowers sound engaging. Unless I need to block out environmental noise above all else, there's no reason for me to grab the Bose.
But the other thing to keep in mind is when do you plan on using them. If you're using them walking, out and about, you likely aren't in an "active listening" mode and I can see people thinking maybe they sound similar. But if you plan on using them at home, on the couch, while relaxing - the Bowers, especially with the new firmware, sound a lot better.
All about comfort and sound quality for mostly instrumental music. I do a lot of air travel, but I haven't owned a pair of wireless headphones.
I have the Bose QC Ultra, and I am returning them. I need to be able to use them with a cable, and they are quiet on max volume when plugging into my 16-inch MacBook Pro. I shall now try the Px7 S2e. (you have to love Amazon returns!)
Strange, my ultras on the Macbook 16 Pro Max M1 are fine. Same as my QC 35ii. Just make sure you slide up the buttonless volume. I may return, they are less comfortable for long wear and make my ears sweatier
How did you like the PX7 S2e compared to the Bose QC Ultra?
I tried to test the B&W at an airport stop. Couldn't get them to work but boy was a struck by the weight difference. The do feel more premium though.
Great review. Always been a Bose freak but got into Bowers & Wilkins due to the awesome sound system in my Jaguar. I have now ordered the PX7 se’s to replace my old QC35’s which will be recycled to my Dad. Really looking forward to receiving them, I am sure I will be happy with them. Thank you for the content, very informative 👍.
Glad to help!
should of got px8. miles better
Try using "should have got" instead of "should of got"@@xo121w
@@xo121w Miles more expensive, too!
I just bought Px7 S2e last week ,all I can say is that its voice is really beautiful.
I have the S2 and they really sound amazing 🤩 Now im seriously mooting the idea of buying the Ultra to add to my collection 😮
I owned the Px7 S2. While I have no complaints about the sound, design and comfort, I was really disappointed that the foam on the earcups came off after 3-4 months of use. B&W doesn't make it easy to replace them, adding to my exasperation. There's no spares available in the market so you have to send the headphones to B&W to get them repaired.
I had this same issue, I just returned the whole thing to Best Buy and got a new pair which is dumb because they will probably throw a perfectly good set of headphones away because of a annoying yet ultimately minor defect.
I genuinely have a cart of B&W replacement parts on their web rn for forest green Px7 s2e
They have far more replacement options than my Bose QC Ultras.
From across the Pond, I can't help it! I AM a Bowers & Wilkins guy. I STILL use my blue & gold B&W PX's, my Bowers & Wilkins PX7 and now, probably the PX8 in burgundy? OR Tan??? I really appreciate the build quality. None of the others compare in that department!! Thanks for a great review!!! Dan
I bought a B&W headphone set for air travel and noise cancelling. I took the Px7 S2 on a flight recently and was disappointed in how much jet noise was coming through. And the well-built case was bulky.
Last week I brought an Ultra set on a flight and, yes, it really silences the jet noise. And, the case is more compact. The Px7 was returned.
But, I really liked the sound on the Px7 and was surprised that listening through the USB cable seemed to sound better.
The Ultra also have great sound. YHMV. At home, my headphone of choice is Sennheiser HD660 plugged into a Fiio DAC/Amp with balanced cables.
Great breakdown, side-by-side comparison, and conclusion. I was curious about your conclusions when you indicated that this video would be coming out, because I want great instrument separation, and I want vocals to be crisp, clear, and out in front of my music, which both these headphones seem to offer. In the end, as you point out, I would consider myself a “Bose person” (even though I don’t always actually trust their products), and that’s why I went that way.
Also, I would like the stronger ANC, I listen to more energetic music and am looking for a strong low end, and Bose seems to have a promising Immersive Audio that I want to check out. I ordered a pair of the Bose yesterday.
Thanks for the kind words!
Sold my Px7S2, did not like the clamping force, the tiny buttons, the weak ANC and the huge case. They look premium and the material is great but in the end the Bose is the much better package for me. No regrets at all.
I bought the Bose QC Ultra, I am really satisfied with it overall. ANC and aware mode is really good, the best ANC I experienced. But there are a few a drawbacks that makes it hard to justify the price of the Bose. The case is small, but feels cheap, battery life is okay, but compared to others I need to charge it after 2 days instead of 3-4, quickcharge is really bad. I use it for work, listening to music and calls. The Focal and the Sony charges enough in the middle of the day to last for the day, but I needed to leave the Bose on the charger for an hour and need a replacement for that time. Also with the Focal if it was empty i just popped in the usb-c cable while listening to music no problem, this cant be done with the Bose. The build quality feels really cheap compared to headphones in this price range.
I really like them, and going to keep them, sound is ok and it is comfortable, however if ANC is not important, there are better cheaper headphones on the market.
then what pair do you recommend between the xm5 and s2e or if you have anither pair to recommend other than these ?
@@youssefhaytham6571 Unfortunetally, i dont own the s2e, but i think if you have an iphone, then Airpods max, if not Focal Bathys. If you want a cheap good sounding headphone with not so good anc then Sennheiser Momentum 3 (its quite old now but to me it sounded good) or Momentum 4, which has a good ANC, and good sound.
If you are okay with the compromises i mentioned with the QC Ultra, then it is also a good choice, ANC is really good, and sound is okay.
For sound only, bowers. I however do teams calls everyday in a WFH. Surface laptop 4 for work.
Bose ultra mic is much better.
Xm5 mic sounds “weaker” from people on calls with me.
Bose 700 mic outperforms the xm5 significantly from people on my calls opinions.
Calls.
Bose ultra/air pods max > bose 700 > Sony xm5 > S2E
I have the Px7 S2, and i love them. Just picked up the QC Ultra, and these things are insane!
Which ones? Or both are?
I went with the PX8 2 months ago , but I dont mind getting the Bose Ultra for my wife , shes still using the QC35 from 2019 , I was using the Sony XM3 from 2019 as well and this year I wanted to upgrade , we travel a ton literally about every 5 weeks we are on a plane so good headphones are a must and worth every penny
Hello are the px8 larger than the xm4 ?
@@BIGaziz7 I think the cans on the XM4 a little more bulky than the PX8
@@BIGaziz7 Late reply but the px8's earcups are both smaller and more roomy. The sony's earcups are really shallow while the px8 and px7 have an angled driver giving more room. Bose also angles their drivers too.
I’m a Bose person first and foremost. I own 4 pairs of Bose (QC15, QC45, QC & QC Ultra. I actually just purchased a pair of B & W PX7-S2E’s. I love Bose for their sound and comfort, but I must say that the B & W’s is right up there with Bose for comfort. It was a dream of unboxing them and putting them on for the first time. I still have to tweak the sound a little bit, but so far I absolutely love them. Both brands offer great sound, noise cancellation and premium features that are unbeatable. The Bose QC Ultra is my favorite though. The B & W I have to get more familiar with. Thanks for your great reviews. Between you and Gymcaddy you both based on stuff you’ve said in various videos influenced me to ditch Sony for Bose. Both of you for a while chose the QC45’s as your daily drivers which alone said a lot. Thanks again. I always look forward to your reviews.
How long you have ultra and do you had any issues with the ultra
I got to test them both back to back for phone call. The Px7 S2e wins because it noise cancels background noise while on call. The QC Ultra only shuts off the mic when no talking is detected, but when it is on it picks up everything including environment noise. I tested the call mode out on the busy streets of Hong Kong which is loud! As for playback sound, it is subjective, but I would have to agree with Mark's review. For myself I find the PX7 S2E is the better performer when it comes to the hardware straight out of the box.
I’ve decided on Bose I’ve bought all from the 35 700 45’s so and the sound is excellent with the music I listen to and especially at work with decibel levels over 90 noise cancellation is why
Yeay finally, thanks mate! Appreciate your honest thoughts and top notch production quality.
PS: Already bought the S2e and really enjoy them. Decision justified. 😅
Thank you for the kind words!
Sebastian have you had any issue with build quality? I have seen some reviews and they mention the cushion on the head band came away fro the frame of the band. I really like the look of the PX7 S2e but nervous about spending this kind of money if the fall apart, I have Bose 700 at the moment and I feel I need a change (connection issues with the Bose)
No issues so far with build quality, all rock solid. However,… my pair recently died a sudden death (not charging or turning on). So returned to dealer for repair/ exchange. Shouldn’t hold you back though, as this can happen to any electronic device.
Hey!! I just got the Bose QC Ultra and i love them!
Just wanna ask you something, have you tried the Momentum 4? Are they louder than Bose Quietconfort Ultra? It Is the same? Which one is louder?
The Momentum 4 was my boy but finally i decided for the Bose because i have the QC Earbuds 1st generation and they are my sunshine haha.
Thanks Bro!
Momentum 4 has better sound quality, but it's worse than bose in every other aspect.
Hey man I was wondering which ones are better for the gym ?
I might have purchased both of these! and can echo a lot of this review as I flip-flop between the one I prefer!
The B&W I think edge the sound quality, but it is close and they do feel more premium. The ANC on them is I think more than good enough for my daily commute. Not tried them on a flight yet. I think the ANC difference is less evident when actually lisatening to music but is noticeable when the volume dips between tracks for example, maybe you can get away a notch lower volume on the Bose? Maybe
The Bose on the other hand flip it around with more than good enough sound and class leading noise cancelling, they are also (IMO) more comfortable and fold down better for my use. I rarely use cases, I prefer to put them in a separate compartment in my work bag. I even used to put my QC45s in my coat pocket.
The procrastination is strong with these 2, keep the B&W and I’ll always feel I am missing out on ultimate ANC, keep the bose and I’ll be missing the sound of the B&W!
I understand your dilemma. Getting both seems excessive. Then again I already have 3 wired headphones and wired earbuds.
Thanx for the wonderful review! Your review confirmed my decision to go for Bose (as a replacement for my Apple Airpod Max) because ANC is my top priority, smaller case, and 3 point EQ versus 2 point EQ are sweet bonuses.
Thanks Mark, great comparison. I ordered both a few weeks ago to do the A/B comparison, so I could choose one.. Guess what? I am keeping them both! Can't give either up. I paid amazingly low prices for each one(got lucky). I was still tempted to try the PX8, but for the money already invested in these 2, I will stay put. You described the sound differences very well. They sound really different to me. I love both headphones sound quality! Ultra's are more comfortable for me. A few asked what EQ settings u use for the Bower's, haven't seen a reply on that. As you said,
can't go wrong with either one. I guess I am a Bowers/Bose person!
Bought the s2e 5 months ago and only now did I realise the cables were in the flipping block in the middle of the case. I was outsmarted by a headphone case 💀💀
😂HAHAHAAHA
no way 💀
Dude, be reassured, you're not alone. 😁
thanks for the warning..I will know now when they arrive.🙃
I would never call myself a audiophile but they sound pretty different to me. Both arent bad but i dont hear the 500€ sound from the bose. Its just the normal 300 € sound and the px7 s2e are half a step above that. Not much but you hear more from the music and you can dive deeper into it. The bose gets 4/5 and the px 7 s2e gets 4,5 from me.
I’m about to buy and can’t decide between the Px7 S2e and the Momentum 4, what would you pick? Thanks
Px7 by miles. I bought the px7 and my uncle bought the momentum. The px7 sounds more accurate and smoother, plus, it looks more stylish and interesting
@@shadowblade2149have you had any issues with the ear cups?
Just bought the Px7 S2e's. cool green colour. Very plush.
Another comment with the B&W: when you plug them via USB C, you can listen to lossless audio on them, not really on the Bose.
In trialling them both - the Bose is more accomplished in connecting to multi devices. The app has way more fun features. The Bluetooth connection has about a third more reach from a remote source. Here’s a shout out to purchasing refurbished headphones from Bose at a third discount. They just clean up ones that are sent back and they seem like brand new. Also the active noise cancellation is best in class. I do miss the B&W as they were also very nice, they just had less interior volume and made my ears hurt after a few hours of wear.
The Bose are the only active noise cancellation that deals with a bloke in the office with a deep baritone booming voice. He gets nicely attenuated out of the picture by about 90%. The B&Ws only managed to kill him off about 50%. If ANC is your deal breaker definately go with the Bose. Or wear wax earplugs. His voice carries about 50m easily and even through a toilet wall. The Bose reduce him to a very low volume mumble. Stick a device source on top - he’s history!
I have the B&Ws, but I don’t find them comfortable on long haul flights as someone who wears glasses, though I love the design, look and premium feel, and the case. I was considering changing them for the Bose QC Ultra. Now I’m really not sure. A luxury problem, I know. Thanks for the video. Good work.🎉
I'm in a difficult position, tried both at the shops. Absolutely love the sound quality of the B&W's! They blew everything else out the water. Tested a number of headphones, they were the ones for me. But the noise cancelling is garbage, I could hear people talking 15-20 feet away with the ANC on. Is that the same for everybody else? I need noise cancelling for long drives on my van and flying. The bose had great noise cancellation but didn't sound great....the Sony X4 & X5's, Sonos, and JBL's were all pants.
This is one of the videos thay helped me make my final decision! The sound quality is amazing and the headphones themselves feel very luxurious. The only thing im concerned about is a quiet clicking noise in the left headphone whenever I move my head a certain way. I wonder if it's a common occurrence or if my headphones are defective. Or maybe I'm looking much too into it. 😅
Just got my super nice Forest Green Px7 S2e headphones today, after testing them thoroughly in the store against a few other contenders. They're awesome. Very comfortable (the Momentum 4 were kicked out for that reason) and they sound just amazing.
Funnily enough, the store didn't even sell any Bose devices anymore because of too many RMA requests and Bose's shitty handling of them. 😅 My QC35 wouldn't turn off anymore at some point without extensive use (the switch is only rated for 5000!!! actuations) while the QC35II's headband wouldn't stay extended anymore, always getting tighter while walking around with them. That's two for two regarding bad manufacturing quality, so no more Bose for me.
Which of these 2 has greater clamp force or which one stays in place while moving about, bending down or even looking down?
B&W
Had nothing but problems with the QC Ultra that has been owned for only two weeks. Creaking headband, popping/crackling noise in the left ear cup (also occurs when the headphones are turned off so it's not the ANC) when walking even gently or with head movements. Will be returning them and getting the px7 se2 (can't afford the px8). Bose's quality control seems to be very lax these days. The audio quality is great to my ears and the ANC is top notch however what's the point when one of the cups rattles/pops whenever you move your head or walk?
Outstanding review. A pleasure to watch. Well done.
Thank you!
Hi mark Love your reviews! I’m currently sitting between 3 options, the Bose qc45 , the pxs2e and the senheiser momentum 4. All are for the exact same price. Personally for me as a student Im looking for comfort, Sound quality and then noise cancelling capabilities as I’m coming from a budget senheiser 450bt, any three would blow me out of the water with ANC😂
Gosh bro... Your video really helped me to make a choice. Listen to music is my everyday and i love Gorillaz, the bass on their songs is 🔥😍🔥😍
Oh, and the volume is very important. So i think the Bose ones is the better option right?
Nice to hear! And yep, I think they’ll be a great option for you..
Which would you say has the larger ear cups? Also, I know the Bose fold up, do the B&W’s? Thanks
PX7's have to be charged to be used wired! Something I found a big downside as if you're using them wired is because you probably ran out of battery!..
Love your reviews mate! keep it up
Same with the Bose. Drives me crazy that the lesser Bose QC 2023s offer more playback options.
@@mhm35 does the ultras need to be charged for wired playback?!
@@emilioesteban7355 Yes, you can used the QuietComfort (non-Ultra) powered off over analog or powered on, so it doesn't require charge.
The Ultras (and as you mentioned, the B&Ws) have to be powered on for playback.
I ultimately kept the Px7 S2e due to the sound quality and build quality over both, but that's a gripe of mine. I tested the QC, QC Ultra, and Px7 S2e.
I love your reviews! Honest and fair
Great review and love your style 😊 You didn't do a mic test and the Bose wins that one - add in far better transparency mode (the B&W is more "opaque mode"), and the Bose work better then for home office as well as audio. Struggling to justify £449 though..😮
your reviews for headphones/earphones are best..enjoying while watching you like watching a good movie on .netflix, thanks for review appreciated your efforts i own curreny B&W PI7 S2 earphones..and previously owned many bose, sony, all market products. B&W sound signature is definitely another level .) if i switched to headphones one day. PX8 will be surely my choice no doubt !
I must say that I have never heard a Bose product that had quality sound. Boomy, yes, loud and a bit harsh, yes, refined and detailed, no. I have not heard these, but I can’t help being skeptical
Hi, any plans to review Bose QuietComfort Ultra vs. B&W Px8? - comfort and sound/ANC.
I am watching this my qc ultra I did try the bowers and returned them to Amazon Never been that big on the bower ms sound signature
I got the Bowers & Wilkins PX7 S2E because I was looking for headphones with exceptionally clear sound that sound great. I watched many reviews, and the sound was often rated slightly better than the Bose Ultra. I've never heard the Ultra, but I find it hard to imagine that Bose can reproduce the sound as clearly as the PX7 S2E. The overall package is better, and the design and build quality are highly praised.
I had the regular S2's, but returned them due to connectivity issues with my android phone. How's that been for you?
@@NN-df7hlI also experienced connection drops, but I have to say they were quite rare overall. Maybe 1 or 2 times a month with continuous usage.
You buy the bose for the nc and the px for sound. Sound wise the bose arent special at all.
@@serrael-182 But what good is the greatest sound in the world if you can't hear it due to extraneous noise??? This has been my dilemma with the PX7's. Also, the Bose Ultra has a new sound signature which is apparently the best yet.
@@NN-df7hl i listened to the ultra and the sound is nothing special. 4/5. But yes the anc should probably be the best right now.
What EQ have you done to px7 s2e?
I found the bose ultras 350€ and the px7 2e 420€ are the bose at a good deal to get them over the bowers and wilkins? What I will be using them most are in airplanes so I need a good noise cancellation and I value premium feeling headphones
I have had the qc 35 II for several years and because I wear a beard I had to exchange the paddings twice already. Is this also possible? B&W?
Could you share what EQ settings you use for the Bowers & Wilkins?
Bought a px7 s2e to try them out few weeks ago. Really good sounding headphones, i even prefer them over the px8 which are a bit too dark for my taste.
Overall, and i know its a different price range, I think the focal bathys are the best wireless headphones. Got myself a pair this week and love them. After the burn in phase they will be even better
Glad you're happy!
Hey Mark! Great reviews, as always! I'm currently deciding between these two and the kef mu7's, don't really care too much on the fancy features (spatial audio), just want a pair of headphones that sound great and doesn't require any fiddling around. Leaning towards the mu7's as I had the kef space one wireless. Lemme know what you think!
Thanks for the kind words. If you're a KEF kinda person, you'll love the Mu7s (sounds like you've made up your mind already 😉).
@@MarkEllisReviews Lol, thanks for the response! Will you be doing a comparison between kef and bose or the b&w?
Watch out with the KEFs. The sound was really good but clear design flaw on them with the headband. I barely used mine and was very careful in putting them back in the case after each use and the headband cracked. I've had to return them to find this is a very common problem with this headphone.
Great Work, Mark!
Which is better sound quality for headphones samsung galaxy or iphone? Hope someone can comment back please?
Which is better for jazz music?
The problem is, new Bose headphones are water down version of original Bose. Been Bose fan for years. Lost old one, got new one , returned to Costco on second day.
I tried the Px7 s2e but had to return them due to the fact that audio would pause randomly when wearing, as if you took them off. Not sure if there was a problem with the wear sensor on mine but otherwise I liked the build and sound quality
The B&W s2e can be bought AUD430 (GBP 220) in Australia so it was no brainer to pick one of these over the Bose.
I'm so conflicted... I'm looking for change my XM4's and I really want the B&Ws - I love my CM9 floor standers, so B&W sound is obviously a selling point for me. That said, I need NC as I have issues with noise, and so I think I maybe need to stay with Sony... Decicions, decisions....
Epic comparison / review from you once again. Really loving your channel. By the way, Am I losing my mind becuz I could have sworn you actually compared these two a week or so ago? Tell me I’m not going mad please 😆
Thank you for the kind words! And this is definitely the only one I’ve done 😉
Hi sir! Do you tried the edifier stax spirit 3? If yes, which one is better sounding between them and bose qc ultra headphones? Do the edifier lacks of bass? Because they have planar magnetic driver and they are not bass focus
Dont buy the bose for its sound. Nc is there strenght. Apple, b&ws and sennheiser all sound better. Xm5 sound as good and are way cheaper.
I’m getting Bose for noise cancellation function. Do you know if there and adapter or something some I can plug in to watch inflight movies? Hope to get answer before cyber Monday ends. Thanks!
I have Bose QC 45 never had headache problem. I'm about to buy B&W and I have small head, so I'm not sure if B&W would suits me or not
I'm so sad the QC Ultras didn't meet your expectations.
I would still buy them anytime, instead of the B&Ws.
Honestly don't understand any selling point of these over the QC Ultras.
I have Bose speakers in my house and for my Coms for General Aviation. I had PX7s for travel. They are in need of replacing, I broke mine... I am conflicted.
I went for the Bose Ultra excellent review
Bose for me I was hoping for your review on them before I bought jumped in. However I just had to get them pre ordered. I have not been disappointed with them. However I was hugely disappointed with Bose, I went into various Bose named retailers and they had the Ultra Comforts out although none of them were working. When I questioned the shop assistants about this they all said Bose have to come in and set them up. If I hadn't been a huge Bose fan this would have made My Blood boil 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻. They are though just Brilliant headphones 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
In the UK BOSE QuietComfort Ultra 60th Anniversary special edition can be bought for £284.96 direct from BOSE - 03/10/24
Thank you Mark!
So when you listen to bowers and wilkins and then listen to bose ultra does the bose ultra sounds bad after? Hope somebody can comment on this. Thank you
In my opinion is the bose even a bit better in sound. I would recommend it for you, there prob the best headphones.
@@leo_6545 Thank you
ho avuto; sennheiser 3.sony xm2/3/4,,,ho bang olufsen 9h third generation e varie altre. Ad aprile ho comprato le BW Px7 S2e....ed è stato subito amore puro🥰🥰 per costruzione e materiali è per me la cuffia più bella in assoluto. Audio al livello delle quasi insuperabili sennheiser 2/3/4. L'ANC funziona benissimo...e dato il volume generoso delle cuffie,una volta avviata la musica...è silenzio totale. BW ha investito sul suono e si sente!!!Bose qc ultra le go comprate e restituite dopo 7 giorni.Non al livello delle altre. La musica spaziale è orribile sulle ultra mentre funziona egregiamente sulle airpods pro. Bowers ha in me un fedele cliente...ora e sempre😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Compared to the QC 45, i wish bose kept their shiney metal like logo instead of just a sticker print..
I love both brands but I am really torn for the PX8, or the PX7 2E. 😮
waiting for kind of this video for long time since these 2 came out
If you tryvthem out don't just use an Iphone since it's only aac codec. You have to try an android phone for the aptx adaptive. On pc you use the alternative driver (12$) and set to aptx adaptive.
I have the Bose and the S2 set. I’m sure I read somewhere that basically the only difference between the s2 and the s2e is purely software. I’m guessing it’s too much to ask there would be an update for the s2.
The s2e has got a better chip same as the chip used in px8. So the difference is more than software.
Mark , Thanks
I went with the Bowers & Wilkins PX8 i may bet the bose
Oh the bose qc ultra looks great 😍
Have the bose 700 & a pair of older wired B & W without bluetooth but I think I will go with the new B&W if there's a good deal on Black friday 🙂
I have the s2e's and they destroy my bose ultras sound wise. The clarty on b&wis off the charts
Bowers & Wilkins on top
I bought the Bose QC Ultra. I don't like the B&W branding, it made their headphones look unrefined.
I'm on the brink of buying the bose headphones, as I want the best possible noice cancelling headphones and spacial audio inclusion is making my choice easy now.
Can you review the soundcore q45?
Got qc ultra for 300 💵 in india . Is it worth?
The Ultras are absolutely terrible on public transport or traveling on bumpy surfaces. The Bose are bugged and I recommend to stay well away until they are fixed.
Just got the B&W PX7 S2e and I am in love with them. The only main reasons I got them was the following points:
- Balanced detailed sound
- High quality build and comfortable to wear
- Long battery life
- Manufactured in the UK so you know it's outstanding quality unlike other brands which are commonly cheaply made in China, Vietnam or India.
- I am a fan of buttons, unlike other headphone brands that are focused on touch controls, which I despise due to accidental touches and sensitivity.
Although Bose is a good brand for sound as well as noise-cancelling, I have had instances with QCiis where I have had to replace them or switch to another brand like Sennheiser, simply because the battery life deteriorated over time.
Hi Jack, I am about to purchase the PX7 S2E but I have seen some build issues with previous model and also the PX8, have you had any issues with your PX7 S2E's ??
@@garym3817 I do know that the original PX7 wasn't as good with sound as I saw them as 'too quiet' sounding as at the time I had to get them swapped for a pair of Senheiser Momentum 3s at the time.
I got the headphones mainly because I can't stand using touch controls and I wanted the same quality (or better) than my previous headphones and I must say they do send Sony, Bose and Senheiser running for their money.
They are not manufactured in the UK. It states clearly on the box. Designed in the UK but manufactured in China.
@@johnnyvvlog yes they are! Stop telling lies! Their factory is in Worthing, Sussex. I know this because they were a client of mine and I've visited the factory......
@@johnnyvvlog yes they are! Stop telling lies! Their factory is in Worthing, Sussex. I know this because Ithey were a client of mine.
How these headphones stack against the bang & ouslen
Why never compare it to PX8 😅
Its not a normal consumer product
Most stores dont have them and ill have to go to specific hifi stores here in germany to buy or try them.