When my grandma was alive, she was falling for scams all the time. We kept telling her not to pay anything over the phone and it didn't work. So one day I told her I have a majic app that has different discounts for every type of purchase. After that my grandma started to call me anytime scammers called her for a discount codes 😂
@@MooMoo69556basically the grandma thought he would give a discount code to help her save money. When she called, he would then tell her it is a scam and don’t pay any money.
"They keep calling". I would change his number and tell him to not answer any calls from people he doesn't know. Otherwise there is nothing they can do. He is an adult and can do what he wants
They should get him one of those caller id apps. Theyre not perfect but i think for a lot of elders having at least a percentage of the calls show up on their phone as "scam" or "telemarketer" would help them to stay vigilant when using their phone
@@csx6910 That’s cruel. The elderly are especially vulnerable to loneliness. Everyone needs to call a friend of family member when they need to, especially in an emergency .
maybe he can also change his phone number this is really sad that people target seniors, and that they lose so much money. I'm so glad you're there to help.
I really feel sad for elderly people that fall for scams. And the people that do it to them deserve the ultimate punishment. AI is going to make it even more difficult to sift through the good and bad. I hope it never happens to me when I get to their age.
I feel sorry for them too, but they need to stop when people tell them to. They lose money, the family tells them to stop, and then they do it again anyway. I don't get it.
@@jimroscovius Their minds are at a point where they can't learn anything new so they can't learn from mistakes. They even forget what they learned in the past.
My grandma called me a few years back convinced I was in trouble in Mexico. It took me a good couple minutes to convince her I was fine and didn’t need money. Thank god my uncle moved in and started answering the phone
Its not that they wont do anything, its that they really cant do anything since the scammers are most likely in nigeria or india and its not worth the resources to go after them.
I don’t think he’s discounting people over 80 at all. Self publishing through Amazon is very doable and can be a great way to make your book available to the public without a publisher.
She mentioned Amazon. There is an option of uploading the book in a format to Amazon and then customers can purchase the boom and they will send out a book. I don’t have the details other than I knew someone that did that for his books. Maybe someone here has more details.
Agented author here! If anyone else is trying to get published through a traditional publishing house, I just wanted to mention that you should NEVER pay for a literary agent! True agents don’t make a dime until they sell your book to a publisher (that’s why it’s so hard to get an agent; they have to believe they can make back their time investment). “Agents” who ask you to pay before they get you a book deal are scammers.
If he has a landline get a cheap answering machine and tell him not to answer the phone. If it is important they can leave a message and tell him if a message is for this 'publishing' scheme to have you listen to it and discuss with him before taking action. With your help he needs to find a legitimate publishing alternative.
It is cheap and safe to self publish books on Amazon. To print and distribute hard copy books costs me about $80 to set up (a one-off cost) plus $10 per year to keep a title in print. I use the largest distributor in the USA. Then I get a royalty from each book sold. Publishing eBooks cost nothing to set up and nothing to keep books in print. It is easy and cheap!
It doesn't cost you anything to set up your book on Amazon print on demand. They get a percentage of the sale price. The only thing you may have to pay for is the ISBN if you want a real one and not one of the free ones that Amazon will give you. A real publisher will never ask you for money.
My 68 year old mother in law spoke to a scammer over the phone for 45 minutes last week. It's infuriating. We've told her so. Many. Times. To not pick up the phone unless she recognizes the number. She won't listen. She still thinks it's 1957 east Texas.
All kinds of scams are preying on older adults. unfortunate since they are older, vulnerable, and some want communication. I've heard of scammers reaching out to older adults via text, getting them to start investing in crypto to a fake investment website. Older adults start investing huge amounts to the investment platform, then platform shuts down. no way to cash out account. So sad..need to keep communicating about finances with older adult family and friends. Make sure they aren't getting scammed. thanks for sharing.
You can print a book online (print on demand) for like $25. She needs to order 20 copies and have it rush shipped to him by the end of the week. Problem solved.
My aunt and her husband are in their 70's, but I don't worry about them because they both know that humans are scum and not to trust anyone. LOL I just wish all older people knew that cause then they would not fall for these ridiculous scams. You can't get rid of scammers when people fall for them so easily. I get that some scammers are very smart and can really make you think they are legit, but even with that, you still have to check and double-check to make sure they are legit or don't do business with them. If you fall for a scammer once then "shame on them". But if you fall for them again, then it's "shame on you". Sounds like this 80 year old does not mind getting scammed cause when he is told that these are scammers and he continues to talk to them, then there is nothing that you can do about that. It's really sad.
These 2 ladies have no clue. The old guy isn't going to stop, there's no reasoning with him. I have a friend in his 80s who got caught up in a telephone scam and there was no reasoning with him. One time the scammers told him they had come all the way to town with his $2 million cash plus 2 new Mercedes cars, but they couldn't actually come to his house until he gave them another $2000. He wanted me to drive him around town to all the hotels to see if he could see the new cars. He ran out of cash to buy more gift cards and though he had money in the bank it was a holiday and the scammers said they had to have the money right then or they would leave town. No one would give him money so he threatened to start killing his wife, his kid, everyone. Police and fire had to come, hospital held him 3 hours, said they could hold him 3 days if the wife signed the papers, that would give the family time to get a lawyer and so forth, but she said "I can't do that to my husband," so right back home and back in the turmoil. $50,000 right out the door to the scammers. Eventually he agreed to change the phone number and make it unlisted but then the scammers started calling other people on the street and asking them to walk their (the scammers') phone number over to the guy. It's been a year since the number change and he still laments that he never hears from his "friends" any more.
The adult daughter sounds stupid, too. The number one rule for avoiding scams is just don't deal with people who call you. You call them or find stuff online.
“ Stupid” is too harsh a word for an elderly and recently widowed man. He’s vulnerable. His daughter is not stupid, either. She wants to help her dad without getting scammed again, The publishing world is fraught with perils even without scammers. I have three books in print, so I know a bit about it.
We ended up changing my mother's phone number (which she had for 40+ years) and just gave the new number to her friends and certain family members. The lady at the phone company said that is what they recommend and always works. We were sad, but it had to be done.
6:00 yeah good luck. Back when you were in diapers Rachel your daddy had a saying "people won't take money advice from someone whose diaper they changed."
Tell him not to answer the phone unless it is you. (I don't answer the phone unless I know who's calling. If it's important, they can leave a message.) Consider a conservatorship and you handle his finances. If you get a conservatorship, have all his mail forwarded to you. I kind of see this as a cry for help. My father got to the point where we didn't think he should drive anymore. And later on he had a friend who was a fiduciary who took over paying all his bills etc. Telling Dad not to drive was a hard thing, but he got used to it real fast! He wanted help, but he didn't want to have to ask. It's a pride thing. At some point, you just gently start taking over and keep him well cared for, safe, and happy.
Agree, but that generation has a different relationship with the telephone. My mother thought it rude not to answer every call. She said, what if it is someone in real trouble calling and I don't help? She thought even wrong number calls could be her opportunity to bless someone. Argh.
Tell him to stop answering the phone I work for Medicare all day their insurance is canceled because they talk to weirdos who call them and cancel and put them in another premium and they have no clue who it is
I am from India. I was scammed of 54k rupees last month which put me in a big trouble and debt. It might not be a huge amount for others. But, it's all I have. I don't know what to do.
1 bad company that scammed him, does not mean he is vulnerable. It happened 1 time. To him it sounded legit. He have been in this business for years. Racheal acts like it's happening everyday. These day, you can do self publishing. Or even Amazon KDP.
Who actually answers the phone anymore? I haven’t, except maybe a couple of times a year, answered the phone since 1984 when I got my first answering machine. Ronald Reagan was still on his first term in office.
There is nothing wrong with success after a certain age. 80 year olds can be very vital and so her saying he's 80! Does he really think he can have a super success is a little agist. Yes, he's been scammed. A lot of people of all ages get scammed with their art.
I hate to point this out, but dang!! Rachel and Jade were pretty condescending about that woman’s father’s career (my word, not theirs) as an author. The man wrote and sold multiple books and because he’s not famous they treat him like he has delusions of grandeur. The man could have a couple hundred thousand or million in the bank just from his books.
No difference between that and today’s universities. They produce idiots, steal their money, and put them into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt
Local PD can't do much if anything and the lawyer if he is honest will tell them there is very little chance of getting the money back. But yes they should report it so there is a record.
When my grandma was alive, she was falling for scams all the time. We kept telling her not to pay anything over the phone and it didn't work. So one day I told her I have a majic app that has different discounts for every type of purchase. After that my grandma started to call me anytime scammers called her for a discount codes 😂
That’s genius 😂
Brilliant.
Huh?
@@MooMoo69556basically the grandma thought he would give a discount code to help her save money. When she called, he would then tell her it is a scam and don’t pay any money.
I work for a consumer law firm. The chances of recovering any money from the scammers is about 0.01%.
My 88yo grandma kept giving money to an obvious scam charity, we had to take over all of her finances, cards, checks etc...
"They keep calling". I would change his number and tell him to not answer any calls from people he doesn't know. Otherwise there is nothing they can do. He is an adult and can do what he wants
Gets no phone at all. Everything goes through her.
They should get him one of those caller id apps. Theyre not perfect but i think for a lot of elders having at least a percentage of the calls show up on their phone as "scam" or "telemarketer" would help them to stay vigilant when using their phone
@@csx6910 That’s cruel. The elderly are especially vulnerable to loneliness. Everyone needs to call a friend of family member when they need to, especially in an emergency .
maybe he can also change his phone number this is really sad that people target seniors, and that they lose so much money. I'm so glad you're there to help.
New phone number! New bank account and power of attorney
I really feel sad for elderly people that fall for scams. And the people that do it to them deserve the ultimate punishment. AI is going to make it even more difficult to sift through the good and bad. I hope it never happens to me when I get to their age.
I feel sorry for them too, but they need to stop when people tell them to. They lose money, the family tells them to stop, and then they do it again anyway. I don't get it.
As soon as I turned 60 I began researching all the most recent and popular scams. I figured they're coming for me like AARP did.😂
@@jimroscovius Their minds are at a point where they can't learn anything new so they can't learn from mistakes. They even forget what they learned in the past.
My grandma called me a few years back convinced I was in trouble in Mexico. It took me a good couple minutes to convince her I was fine and didn’t need money. Thank god my uncle moved in and started answering the phone
@sprint7412
I learn new things every day. But it may be true that I've forgotten more than you have learned. 🤣
Contacting the police is pointless. They won't do anything about this.
Its not that they wont do anything, its that they really cant do anything since the scammers are most likely in nigeria or india and its not worth the resources to go after them.
Publishing on Amazon is EASY - I've done 4 books through them. DIY is pretty easy, and inexpensive. I'd be happy to give advice.
Hey don’t discount people over 80. We are not all senile. Yes we still write books paint pictures etc.
@@opaldurham4818 - And publishing those books does not have to be difficult. Self publishing should definitely be an option for this person.
I don’t think he’s discounting people over 80 at all. Self publishing through Amazon is very doable and can be a great way to make your book available to the public without a publisher.
@@MrsSusanVA - I'm not sure why that person thinks I'm discounting people over 80. I certainly was not.
She mentioned Amazon. There is an option of uploading the book in a format to Amazon and then customers can purchase the boom and they will send out a book. I don’t have the details other than I knew someone that did that for his books. Maybe someone here has more details.
Agented author here! If anyone else is trying to get published through a traditional publishing house, I just wanted to mention that you should NEVER pay for a literary agent! True agents don’t make a dime until they sell your book to a publisher (that’s why it’s so hard to get an agent; they have to believe they can make back their time investment). “Agents” who ask you to pay before they get you a book deal are scammers.
He should tell the callers to call his representative(you). It’s depressing how vulnerable some elderly can become.
If he has a landline get a cheap answering machine and tell him not to answer the phone. If it is important they can leave a message and tell him if a message is for this 'publishing' scheme to have you listen to it and discuss with him before taking action. With your help he needs to find a legitimate publishing alternative.
It is cheap and safe to self publish books on Amazon. To print and distribute hard copy books costs me about $80 to set up (a one-off cost) plus $10 per year to keep a title in print. I use the largest distributor in the USA. Then I get a royalty from each book sold. Publishing eBooks cost nothing to set up and nothing to keep books in print. It is easy and cheap!
He can just self publish through Amazon. It's probably the easiest path for something like this.
It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you :)
But yeah been scammed before in a very different scenario. Not a good time :(
He can print directly through - and to - Amazon.
It doesn't cost you anything to set up your book on Amazon print on demand. They get a percentage of the sale price. The only thing you may have to pay for is the ISBN if you want a real one and not one of the free ones that Amazon will give you. A real publisher will never ask you for money.
My 68 year old mother in law spoke to a scammer over the phone for 45 minutes last week. It's infuriating. We've told her so. Many. Times. To not pick up the phone unless she recognizes the number. She won't listen. She still thinks it's 1957 east Texas.
She is lonely and this helps it go away
What can I do? DON"T ANSWER THE PHONE! If it's important they will leave a message.
Good idea. If you screen all calls, scammers don’t like leaving messages.
All kinds of scams are preying on older adults. unfortunate since they are older, vulnerable, and some want communication. I've heard of scammers reaching out to older adults via text, getting them to start investing in crypto to a fake investment website. Older adults start investing huge amounts to the investment platform, then platform shuts down. no way to cash out account. So sad..need to keep communicating about finances with older adult family and friends. Make sure they aren't getting scammed. thanks for sharing.
You can print a book online (print on demand) for like $25. She needs to order 20 copies and have it rush shipped to him by the end of the week. Problem solved.
Thanks for recapping what Rachel said. Appreciate it.
Not really. He wants a publisher because he wants the book out there and they say they will provide marketing, etc.
My aunt and her husband are in their 70's, but I don't worry about them because they both know that humans are scum and not to trust anyone. LOL I just wish all older people knew that cause then they would not fall for these ridiculous scams. You can't get rid of scammers when people fall for them so easily. I get that some scammers are very smart and can really make you think they are legit, but even with that, you still have to check and double-check to make sure they are legit or don't do business with them. If you fall for a scammer once then "shame on them". But if you fall for them again, then it's "shame on you". Sounds like this 80 year old does not mind getting scammed cause when he is told that these are scammers and he continues to talk to them, then there is nothing that you can do about that. It's really sad.
These 2 ladies have no clue. The old guy isn't going to stop, there's no reasoning with him. I have a friend in his 80s who got caught up in a telephone scam and there was no reasoning with him. One time the scammers told him they had come all the way to town with his $2 million cash plus 2 new Mercedes cars, but they couldn't actually come to his house until he gave them another $2000. He wanted me to drive him around town to all the hotels to see if he could see the new cars. He ran out of cash to buy more gift cards and though he had money in the bank it was a holiday and the scammers said they had to have the money right then or they would leave town. No one would give him money so he threatened to start killing his wife, his kid, everyone. Police and fire had to come, hospital held him 3 hours, said they could hold him 3 days if the wife signed the papers, that would give the family time to get a lawyer and so forth, but she said "I can't do that to my husband," so right back home and back in the turmoil. $50,000 right out the door to the scammers. Eventually he agreed to change the phone number and make it unlisted but then the scammers started calling other people on the street and asking them to walk their (the scammers') phone number over to the guy. It's been a year since the number change and he still laments that he never hears from his "friends" any more.
Why doesn't he contact the publisher for his previous book?
😮😮I get calls from scammers. I tell them I need money for food. They hang up.
The adult daughter sounds stupid, too. The number one rule for avoiding scams is just don't deal with people who call you. You call them or find stuff online.
“ Stupid” is too harsh a word for an elderly and recently widowed man. He’s vulnerable. His daughter is not stupid, either. She wants to help her dad without getting scammed again, The publishing world is fraught with perils even without scammers. I have three books in print, so I know a bit about it.
I’d try and get guardianship so Dad doesn’t have access to his money to give funds to scammers.
We ended up changing my mother's phone number (which she had for 40+ years) and just gave the new number to her friends and certain family members. The lady at the phone company said that is what they recommend and always works. We were sad, but it had to be done.
My wife works in memory care that's why this bothers me so much
Ppl that manipulate the elderly like this are evil and should be made an example of with a hefty fine to be repayed to the victim and some jail time
6:00 yeah good luck. Back when you were in diapers Rachel your daddy had a saying "people won't take money advice from someone whose diaper they changed."
Powdered butt syndrome.
There is a commercial, I think it's called Christian Publishing, that stream lines the process of publishing a Christian book.
Tell him not to answer the phone unless it is you. (I don't answer the phone unless I know who's calling. If it's important, they can leave a message.) Consider a conservatorship and you handle his finances. If you get a conservatorship, have all his mail forwarded to you. I kind of see this as a cry for help. My father got to the point where we didn't think he should drive anymore. And later on he had a friend who was a fiduciary who took over paying all his bills etc. Telling Dad not to drive was a hard thing, but he got used to it real fast! He wanted help, but he didn't want to have to ask. It's a pride thing. At some point, you just gently start taking over and keep him well cared for, safe, and happy.
Agree, but that generation has a different relationship with the telephone. My mother thought it rude not to answer every call. She said, what if it is someone in real trouble calling and I don't help? She thought even wrong number calls could be her opportunity to bless someone. Argh.
@@MariaInIowa I get it.
I was be very hesitant to sit under a teacher this much of a fool.
Jade never asks the questions to get the big picture before she dives in on paying stuff off.
It’s always only a matter of time before a fool and their money part ways:)
Phones Ramsey but not the police? Give your head a shake.
Police can’t do a thing.
Tell him to stop answering the phone I work for Medicare all day their insurance is canceled because they talk to weirdos who call them and cancel and put them in another premium and they have no clue who it is
Check with librarians for some info/guidance for publishing. They might point him in a honest direction.
sadly, he will probably never get his money back...he will have to get a new phone number too.
I thought this was gonna be Rachael taking about Dave
lol
Nice work. I’ve been on the HypeFX2000 train for a while, never sold as they are always building.
Hire a publisher and give them your number
I just got a sudden craven for broccoli.
He can self-publish!
I am from India. I was scammed of 54k rupees last month which put me in a big trouble and debt. It might not be a huge amount for others. But, it's all I have. I don't know what to do.
See if you can work another job, maybe part time.
Work extremely hard for a season...there is hope. You can do this
How were you scammed? You mind sharing, that way it doesn't happen to other people 👀
Holy roti!
Self publish with amazon supper easy
Why not publish digitally?
Just sell it digitally.
1 bad company that scammed him, does not mean he is vulnerable. It happened 1 time. To him it sounded legit. He have been in this business for years.
Racheal acts like it's happening everyday.
These day, you can do self publishing. Or even Amazon KDP.
See you're still trolling and wasting your life away. Get a resolution and get your life together
I hope he closed his bank acct
Green is your color, Jade
Amazon let’s you self publish
What's the name of the company?
I would tell him to cancel all cards
Who actually answers the phone anymore? I haven’t, except maybe a couple of times a year, answered the phone since 1984 when I got my first answering machine. Ronald Reagan was still on his first term in office.
Dave's books in garage sales are a buck a piece. Explains everything.
Have you heard of supply and demand
Supply is high
Amazon KDP
Jade seems very disinterested in the call. Guess that is because she is not giving her two cents
She is bored because it's not a irresponsible spender that she can shame.
No she doesn’t,
Because dumb boomers always falling for call scams
There is nothing wrong with success after a certain age. 80 year olds can be very vital and so her saying he's 80! Does he really think he can have a super success is a little agist. Yes, he's been scammed. A lot of people of all ages get scammed with their art.
I hate to point this out, but dang!! Rachel and Jade were pretty condescending about that woman’s father’s career (my word, not theirs) as an author. The man wrote and sold multiple books and because he’s not famous they treat him like he has delusions of grandeur. The man could have a couple hundred thousand or million in the bank just from his books.
what about Amazon KDP?
But they take like 70%.
Better than what this guy is doing
You call the real book publishing companies and ask to speak to the publishers dept name of person.
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Have you ever heard of Trump University????😂😂😂😂 Yeah that ex-president had a university that scammed hundreds of people.
No difference between that and today’s universities. They produce idiots, steal their money, and put them into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt
And that have what to do with this?
@@jimmymcgill6778 nothing. Just another idiot that suffers from TDS and believes everything on the “news”
@@jimmymcgill6778 There's little scammers and big scammers and Trump is a big scammer I don't even think he paid anybody back from his fake university
Trump 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
1:09 BS. Are people really this dumb? You immediately file a scamming/fraud report online and contact the local PD and get a lawyer...
Local PD can't do much if anything and the lawyer if he is honest will tell them there is very little chance of getting the money back. But yes they should report it so there is a record.
legacy lol
Is this Joe Biden’s daughter?
Ugh! Bring Dave back. These hosts are so boring.
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First situation where a credit card might have made sense 😅🥲