At the Frontlines of a Culture War in Turkey | S09E07
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2024
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As we sail around the world, every now and then we get see a place that is so beautiful and so historically significant, that I can truly say it’s one of the most important places in the entire world.
Istanbul, in modern day Turkey, has been an important city for thousands of years. As Rome declined, it upheld the torch of civilization while Europe descended into the dark ages and for centuries it was at the center of the Christian world. And yet it’s also been at the core of the Islamic world, when the Ottoman empire ruled over the majority of the Mediterranean. The city stands at the junction of two separate continents and at the epicenter of the clash between two very different worldviews.
And it is in this city that the Hagia Sophia, once the most advanced man made structure on the planet, has been used to praise two different Gods over the millennia. All of it’s beauty, it’s complex history, and it’s symbolism for raw human achievement, are still evident on it’s 1500 year old walls. But today it is at the front lines of a new fight, the culture war between the secularism of the west and the religious conservatism of the middle east. So although we won’t be sailing this week I hope you join us on our road trip across Western Turkey to why I consider the Hagia Sophia to be one of the most important places in the world.
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Those who enter old Istanbul by car take the tires in their hands and leave :)) I have been driving in Istanbul for 35 years and I still think about it when I go to the old part. Finding parking is a miracle.
Probably you should wander the old city like everyone else, unless you have a physical disability or disadvantage. Those places are thousands of years old and not intended for the motor vehicles which emits carbon.
As s Turk, I watched this video as if I was learning new things even I visit these mosques and museums etc. several times. Your narration is impressive.
I follow a huge group of sailing you tubers, at last count 28. I can honestly say that your videos have moved into the number 1 spot. Thank you.
Wow, thank you!
I totally agree! The top main sailing channels have been getting lame, and you’re taking top spot, in my humble opinion.
Completely agree! Could not have said it any better.
agree this is brilliant
I agree also. This is a fantastic RUclips channel!
My husband and I are Americans but we bought a home in Turkiye and love seeing your videos. Istanbul is an amazing city and your video was excellent. We can't wait to get back to our home in Bodrum.
Next time leave the keys with me to take care of the house when you guys are not around 😀
I am an American as well. My wife’s parents live in Istanbul an old historic town called Beykoz. We also have a home in Bodrum. Going back for a month in June -July.
when you came from america can you give me donut and fried chicken
Bodrum is nice but small..why would an american chose such a tiny city?😊@@chalmerelkins8965
As an just retired Turkish American, I am about to buy a house from Bodrum. Istanbul is colorful and very dynamic city, never been boring but a little tiring. Good for visiting once in while.
Just a correction: city name was not changed to Istanbul (Stanpoli), it was one of the names Greek already used. Ottomans used many names for the city like most popularly Konstantiniyye (literally Constantinople), Dersaadet etc.
I wasnt now that now I must to search it Thanks for info
You do an outstanding job of historical research and analysis! Very in-depth but also easy to follow along with the story line. Well done!👏👏👏😁
Rubbish. That naive person has no knowledge of Turkish socio-cultural structure or politics.
iyiki İstanbul Anadolu yakasında yasıyorum cengelkoy merkez ☺️🤗
I have to say I am loving g your time in Turkey immensely. The videos have been amazing. I will say this, your videos do a great job showing and explaining everything. I lived in Turkey for a number of years while stationed there and made numerous trips throughout the country while there. It was a wonderful experience and time for an 18 year old who had never left the United States before then. I even enjoyed driving around while there-at a time when GPS was not around and had to rely on paper maps. I will say this, they really knew how to build structures way back when! Looking forward to next week’s video!
Thank you for holding your shots STILL so we can see what you are seeing! Your producing skills are excellent. Thank you!
Thanks for the good memory, you almost echoed our tour a few years back. Istanbul is a wonderful, beautiful city.
Also, these structures are very strong. There is a large fault line in the sea, 50 km away to the south. It causes earthquakes of magnitude above 7. Once every 250 years.
As a Turk, I can say your historical narration was on point. Although some people are not as grateful as they should be towards to Atatürk, it is great to see some people appreciate what he has done for our country. Istanbul is one of the most worth visiting cities in the world for sure. You have to take your time in İstanbul to experience the city. I will be looking forward to your next videos in Turkey. Great video
There’s a reason why a whole bunch of em aren’t grateful to Ataturk. He was a brilliant commander, but also our (European) puppet. I’m happy that we got to remove Islam from the hearts of the Ottomans through him, and instil our secular values. So that naturally makes us lose respect towards you as you couldn’t safeguard your values, and proudly adopted foreigner values. So yea you’ll forever wanna be like us, but you’ll always remain inferior. Just a European perspective
Lan ne Mustafa kemal çok şey yapmış ya . 😂 , reis de çok şey yaptı onuda görün o zaman
Respecting a dictator is the last thing I would do. A person should have self-respect. Ataturk was a dictator.
Not true at all. Secularism and Islam are not in confrontation in Türkiye. Turkish-Ottoman Hanefi school of Islam has never been strict. And Atatürk was not at all against Islam.
@@velierengogebakan3352 Reisiniz bir şey yapmadı. Kendisi ülkeyi yıkmaya çalışan Amerikan yalaması sömürgecilerin en ileri formu işte
Another great Saturday morning coffee with Atticus. Thanks for the great cultural and historic lesson of Turkey.
So unusual to be wisked away to the remarkable city of Istanbul, great camera work and historical research. Loved it!
Very impressive and informative. Enjoyed it immensely. Well done! Your channel is not only fun, but educational and I look forward to your next adventure.
Hi, it is great to see someone from another country acknowledged the importance of Atatürk for Turkey and also current government's actions against his legacy. I hope that you will have a wonderful trip in our country. Videos are great btw and it is really nice to see someone else's opinion about our mondaine life in Turkey.
Ataturk was a British implant
Awesome! That’s the reaction I had when I visited the Blue Mosque. Hagia Sophia, Tokapi Palace, Cisternes, Galata tower, Grand Bazaar were some amazing places. Loved Istanbul. Great job with your historical narration. I’ll be sharing this with my granddaughters since they’ll be visiting this summer. Glad you had a great time. Jordan, I award you the Badge of Courage 🏅 for driving in that city! LOL. Cheers 🍻
well, one of the coolest episode I've seen anywhere. As usual, so respectful, informative and appreciative of what you're experiencing. Well done you guys!!! loved the matrix move!😊
Well done your videos are getting much better with excellent content, and not just sailing. Thanks for this great coverage on Istanbul.
Great episode! Istanbul is one of my favorite cities. You did such a great job of showing us around and sharing with us the history of this beautiful city. Some of the best food I've ever eaten was in Turkey. ❤
Thank you for doing these video. So educational/informative. This episode is one of the best yet.
What a beautiful experience. Con la familia! ❤❤❤🙌🏼. Thank you.
I think I say this every time but I absolutely love your videos! This one was so full of history and interesting scenery. I'm seriously thinking I'd like to visit Turkey now. Great job, excellent quality of filming and editing plus the cutest baby on RUclips 🤗💞
Thank you so much for the history tour!! I loved it. I'm headed to Poros, Greece this fall because of your adventures. I'm thinking now I'll have to visit Turkey one of these years!! Fascinating to say the least!!
Your videos just get better. That was so interesting. Thank you
Thanks so much!You are excellent tour guides ❤
Having traveled a large part of the world myself, I love your first-hand tours and narrations of such beautiful and historic locations. Your channel is what National Geographic, A&E, and the Discovery Channels used to be before they turned into Reality TV.
What a Beautiful brief history episode. Fantastic. Enjoying every second of this.
Enjoyed this tremendously! Thank you.
epically done great work❣️thank youz🙌🏼
What a brilliant video you created. Just amazing. So interesting. Thank you.
Incredible, i learned a lot this morning.. still love your videos and adventures thanks for sharing with us all…. 😊
Fantastic episode..loved the tour
I’ve been to Istanbul so many times and I love this city. Now I love to watch your gorgeous videos - many thx.
You guys can not believe how much I appreciate this narration of my country. Everything is so on point and explanatory even I get to learn something new. I don’t even talk about how well you cater this to the whole world. Hope as a family you are happy to spend your winter in Turkey.
Stunning work of art, you guys did a great job revealing the history. Thank you
Such a beautiful episode, country and people thank you both so much !
Fabulous! Thank you for including such historical and cultural details. Well done. Namaste. 🙏
WOW I think I enjoyed the tour as much as you guys. Thank you againg for another very interesting video, and history lesson.
Wow! This part of the world I have never contemplated before! Your excellent narration is really expanding my mind!
Brilliant Ep. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I love your travel videos, really enjoyed. Thanks for posting
Welcome to Istanbul. Atatürk placed secular thought in the veins of this country and entrusted it to the youth. We are determined to continue his legacy forever. Atatürk's letter to Australian mothers after the War of Independence is proof of how the western world has wrong ideas about us. Enjoy Turkiye
''Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”
What a beautiful comment! Here in the US we are seeing people trying to take us back to the "dark ages" embracing a vision of dismantling what we have fought for, for hundreds of years. We are counting on our youth to forge a way forward not back! I love seeing and receiving a bit of history about your beautiful country.
oh yes us europeans also love ataturk for destroying Islam, he really was our best puppet, even better than lawrence of Arabia
Don't go to prison there.
Mustafa Kamal Ataturk (Attaturk?) breath into the Turkish youth the supremacist nationalism that unfortunately charcterize many subcultures in the Western World. This nationalism is extremely intolerant, Turko-centered, and copycated and is in awe of the culture in its neighbourhood. This type of nationalism is what one Western historian - the Arnold J. Toynbee has lamented in one of his writings as Herodian instead of being original and adopted as a quickfix to the challenge of modernity instead of evolved according to its native conditions. Eventually, those civilizations and cultures will achieve greateness that would find their own path to glory instead of being goaded into following a specific way of thinking.
I hope the Vlogger doesn't remain captive to the tunneled thinking of us-verus-the-rest paradigm (which he seems to be as indicated by his commencement of the video with the cliche, "the cultural war" and couching it into the phrase like "West secularism" versus Middle Eastern concervatism") and can see and relish the diversity of the world instead of looking at it in black-and-white (West versus the Rest), being scared of it, and harbouring antagonistic suspicion of it. History doesn't end at at a paticular epoch. Had that been the case, there would be no progress beyond the neolithic and other revolutions. The plain fact of history is that, different human groupings have found their own ways to development.
Thank you this was a lovely video to watch this week.
I've been trying to watch from the beginning episodes but every once in a while, I catch a new episode. Wow this was a really interesting one!
Thanks for the memories. As is I was in Istanbul in 2022. Narration as always as great. Thanks for doing all the history on this.
Great videos! You have a wonderful family. As a Turk living in Canada, I love watching your videos when I'm homesick.
Thanks for these fun videos and mentioning Ataturk!
You guys are much more than a sailing channel! You make us part of the experience by having these cultural and historical explanations. I visited Turkey and I'm reliving my trip ❤ Great job!!!
Ice cream's can be a lot if fun😊.
That was awesome. I've visited Istanbul a few times, and that was such a great depiction of its unique features and culture. You're doing a fantastic job of the sailing videos and the destination videos. Keep it up and I hope you're having fun. Look forward to next week when you do the foodie tour.
What a fascinating episode. Thank you.
I am learning so much from your episodes in Turkey! Thank you! Absolutely incredible place.
Absolutely loved this video! I will visit Istanbul one day. It’s on the list now. Great work guys!
The ending was so beautiful it made me cry. I love you guys❤
It really made me feel emotional to see you guys visit Turkey as a Turk.I love watching your videos and I dream of having a life like this one day, your journey is making me feel like it might be possible !!
Not only Western of Turkey, but each pixel of Turkey admires him
That was cool! Thanks for sharing!😊
I love how you guys take the time to study the history of the places you’re at. I for one love history and learning from the past so we don’t repeat it. I love how the architects of the ancient world how they build things last forever
Amazing video , thank you 🙌
I can honestly say I hardly watch the other sailing YT channels anymore because they have all gone off the deep end for me in some way or another. However you guys are the best. The best editing the best balance of content and the best drone shots. I need to stowaway on Atticus some place where you won’t find me till we are out at sea.
Unbelievable video,🎉. Have traveled northern Europe, but never made it to the Mediterranean you're taking me places and I'll never get to go. From an appreciative old heart
Great episode! What a beautiful country, thank you for sharing it with us!
We love the way you tell your story. As always, stay safe out there!
Fascinating..well done, great video.
Thank you for the amazing history lesson and for making it all so real.
Amazing stories of history and architecture. I had no idea how beautiful Turkey is. Thanks guys, you rock!❤❤❤
A very nice, easy to watch informative video, i loved how you pinpointed some of the most crutial aspects of İstanbul and Türkiye. I hope you enjoy your visit and have a great time in my country ❤🙋🏻♀️
Really enjoyed the tour. Can’t wait until the food tour next week! 😎🥰😎🥰😎
İ was just wandering around in RUclips for sailing channels, and met this video. Nice work man! For the sake of İstanbul ( i am abroad now, its been long to my hometown İstanbul) subscribed, too.Will be following you, people!❤
Fantastic episode. Thank you. 🐟
Another Fantastic Video Jordan and Family… Enjoyed every moment… Sincerely…John and Penny… Ontario, Canada….
You guys rock! I am truly a fan of exploring new places and you have motivated me to go see some of Turkey! The combination of History, culture and the world's famous waterways are fascinating! Thank you for opening my eyes to a new opportunity to wander!
Great video guys. Really enjoyed seeing Turkey
Having watched your channel from humble beginnings..this video is without doubt your best!!..the narration was superb Jordan..everybody enjoys a great storyline..I dips me lid guys..🇦🇺
Loving your tour of Türkiye. So informative. Weather permitting we’ll be there next week and looking forward to it. Thanks.
(If you ever get to Belgrade, their Orthodox Church is modelled on the Hagia Sophia, gold leaf everywhere).
wow another fantastic viseo...bravo guys
harikasınız ve hoşgeldiniz❤
Wonderful video, thank you for sharing
Such a beautiful and fun video!
Metin was awesome….nice work M.
Really enjoyed this video.
First, I would not call it a cultural war, more like a polarization but show me one culture or nation without it. Following that thought, the motivation for reversing the status of the Hagia Sophia had nothing to do with internal factors, sure it catered to some people but still not the cause. If they really cared so much about it, they would have done it way before, nothing to stop them from it. The real reasons, were tensions with the US / EU and Greece, Greece has systematically closed mosques and Turkish schools in Greece. As relations with both were at the lowest point, the timing and retribution became valid.
about the part you say as if it's the same as other nations is incorrect imo. Countries like US and turkey has extreme polarization that people of religion show actual hate towards non-religious even hate crimes happen often due to this. And also there is non-religious can't stop talking sh*t about religious. It feels like a big polarization and not a usual one, it's even a topic used often you can see on law suggestions and even kids on streets talk about such things at such young ages. I do think there is a mental fight keeps going in there. that's more than usual
thank you for diving deep into the subject . even i learned few stuff about my own countr's hisory thanks to you. love
A incredible, stunning, interesting video . One of your best ever I really enjoyed the history lesson. You guy's are on an incredible journey.
I look forward to seeing these videos plus historical footage wow
I so enjoy the history you always share...Thanks
I loved this video and I am waiting for the other one❤❤❤
Wow! What a great adventure. I have always wanted to see the Hagia Sophia! Desiree you are rocking that hajib! What a nice look around, and the driving! I fell I've experienced a day around town myself! Thank you. PS The whole royal look, looks good on you guys!
Very informative video.Lovely video ❤
What a stunning video, I could almost smell the city. My father and his girlfriend visited Turkey 35 years ago and they said it had been the trip of their lives, they particularly liked the Caverns of Cappadocia.
I look forward to your videos every week. Just the right amount of Jordan, Desiree, baby and sights/sites/history (not necessarily in that order)
That was one of the best videos, you have shown! Great history and architecture. Very beautiful Mosques! Stay safe from the east coast of Canada 🇨🇦.
Amazing. Thank you.
Wow!!. I am blown away by your grasp of the history of Turkey/Istanbul and the way you have delivered perfectly to the point. To approach history without getting bogged down in rhetoric is nothing short of admirable. Enjoy your experience in Turkey where there's more than meets the eye if you are bothered to look for it. What a great way to show your little lady in the future, the experience she had and the events she witnessed when she was a baby. Enjoy your stay in Turkey. Greets from a fellow mariner..
Thank you for visiting Blue mosque I got goosebumps I’m from Istanbul but living in Newyork great video thank you❤❤
Great video, very interesting!
Fantastic episode
So interesting thanks for sharing.
Thank you all so much history.❤
Amazing episode! Can't wait to visit Istambul!
There is one minor correction to be made for the comment on 13.00 ; Ottomans never renamed the city. It was Constantinople/Konstantiniyye(Turkified) all along up to 1930. When republic wanted to distinct itself from the old empire, Constantinople renamed as "Istanbul" in 1930, to represent the new republican nation and it is only then officially asked to foreign embassies to stop using name Constantinople from then on. Even the new name, the name "Istanbul" is not Turkish, it is of unknown origin but the most common rumor that it is a derivation of "To the city" in Greek, for Constantinople was "The City" in the world around it and when you were to there, it would be sufficient to say "i am going to the city" and people would understand that you were going to the Constantinople.
Also, Greco-Turkish war that the republic has secured its existence more correctly to be named as "War of national liberation" instead of "war of independence", for continous Turkish states was never a vassal or colony of any other state, well, ever. I am sorry, not ever, Timur the Lame actually conquered half the anatolia and taxed the old empire for a while as an autonomous taxed vassal in 1402.
Türkiye is located between the Asian and European continents. It's not a middle eastern country. The people living in it are mostly Muslims, but there are many people who believe in more than one religion. It is not an Islamic country. It is a secular country.
Turkiye is a muslim country
@@rezaeshaghi1727nah shut it
Turkiye is a Muslim country. Its constitution gives the government the right to regulate the religious life. That makes it a non-secular country. What you call secular, is not really secular. You are talking
about the anti-Muslim policies before 1950. Anti-Muslim policy, is not secular, it is simply against Islam but favoring other religions.
@@almazchati4178 In order for a country to be an Islamic country, the religion of the state must be specified in the constitution. Our state has no religion and our form of government is based on the people. Everyone can belong to a different religion. There is no such thing as dividing or differending Muslims. This country is not governed by SHERIA!
@@seymylmz6499 You are wrong. There is a branch of the government looking into rekigious affairs. It used to sanction the governments anti-religious ideology, disguised as being anti-sheria, but since more democratic governments, the tide turned around. You admit that early republic days were anti-muslim, by citing SHERIA. It was an atheist government, and that his what you
are espousing. If you meddle with religion, religion will meddle with you. In that sense modern Turkey is not secular, Ottomans were more secular.