"Gohan Beast Is Only BLUE Level" IS DEAD! Ultra Instinct VS Beast! DBS 102 Chapter Spoilers!
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The fight should be way serious than in the anime
Been thinking about this since last night, I think most of the gohan deniers just don't wanna get hyped to get burnt and gohan go back to being treated as fodder
"Goku isn't even using TUI" these guys don't even realize chapter 102 confirmed MUI is stronger than TUI
Gohan’s going toe-to-toe with MUI Goku with a smile on his face. No fear, no hesitation, no arrogance. Just straight CONFIDENCE.
Love to see it.
Even if Gohan wins, people will still say "nah Gokus stronger", there's still people who say Goku was stronger than Gohan in the cell saga, wouldn't be dragon ball without people saying nonsense.
Well since Goku is the main character so yeah
@@curtisrohling5852 he is no longer the main character lol
@@curtisrohling5852 he's not anymore. He has been sidelined and placed as a mentor
@@curtisrohling5852 main character status shouldn't automatically make you the strongest.
@@FounderX9Have you paid no attention to the video or to toriyamas statement, cause it seems not.
"Piccolo doesn't know how strong Goku and Vegeta are" people in hiding I see...
Fr where they at also the “gohan just gets power ups.” Like we didn’t see them trying to revive his training since golden freeza
Most never disputed gohan being their level only piccolo
I mean he doesn’t he said the gammas were on par with goku and vegeta and we clearly see they aren’t at all nor is piccolo Lmaoo 😂
Piccolo doesn't though. That's why this fight exists, to test out how Gohan fares against a Goku who is much stronger than he was against Moro.
Yeah the fanboys thinks Akira knows nothing about DB :D
Your right that MUI is stronger than TUI. DBSchronicles new spoilers reveal it
It good he can use ultra instinct better, but he is still no where near berrus level
All this arguing over power scaling when they we’re always as strong as the writer decides. They could make krillin the strongest if they wanted. I wish Gohan one shot goku so people cry more. All these people acting like they know better than the danm writers of the show.
Exactly. I'm glad this chapter is happening. We can finally lay this to rest and move forward
Most rel comment ever. Agree.
Yeah that's why its annoying trying to debate with certain fans. I've never seen a community that feels they know the story more than creator than the DragonBall community.
Make your own manga at that point if you feel like your narrative on the story is right.
I stand corrected, Gohan putting up better performance than I thought. But for the record, I never thought Gohan was weak. I've always thought he was around UI level, just not stronger than goku and vegeta. This is the scaling I've had since the end of Granolah arc:
MUI Goku > UE Vegeta > Gohan > Broly > Cell Max > Orange Piccolo >
I think the recent chapters show my bottom 3 is correct, but goku, vegeta, and gohan not confirmed yet, but by the looks of it, Gohan might = Goku. I can't see the fight being a stomp for either of them. I do think its possible and even likely that Goku edges out a win using UI hax like you said tho, but in pure strength I'd say gohan is on par with goku and vegeta.
Beast Gohan = MUI Goku >>>>> everything else
Gohan beast without red eyes is not at full power in my opinion. It’s basically a calmer version of it. He’s holding back. If he truly gets serious he will get red eyes. Just like how goku can switch to true ultra instinct
It could be true, but I think Toyotaro just redesign beast, look at gohan hair and the bang it short and look nicer
@@happyblue4940 u could be right
Probably just a design change or the pupils only show up when he's angry. And MUI is the still the stronger version of Ultra Instinct.
@josephmills9205 MUI> TUI
I'm praying we get a piccolo fight too cause the narratives against him were so foul for no reason 😭
Yeah. Since people can’t deny that Gohan at bare minimum is Ultra tier, now the agenda is to prove that Piccolo isn’t.
Current Blue is nothing compared to a smiling Beast Gohan who isn't at full power. 😯
Such a good time to be a dragonball fan. Beast is sick. Hope to see Gohan go Against big broly himself.
Yea and after that he should teach broly how to controll his anger, since gohan has always get stronger due to rage
Imagine if gohan was just hiding power and his eyes were white instead of red and black because he was holding back and he lets out his rage and goes full power and his eyes turn red with black pupils that would be cool
Ou erraram ou ele está se segurando, sem contar liberação de ki durante a traformação do beast era maior do que foi mostrado ali.
Gohan is literally a Beast 🔥🔥🔥
Gohan has been my favorite character for 30 years. I'm glad he's finally getting a glow up.
Gohan looks like he playing. Come on you 2.
Just imagine Gohan beast with god ki 🔥🔥🔥
Just imagine Gohan beast is already 'devil' ki
When was the last time God ki was significant? Feels like it got forgotten about.
@@Mr.EintheMorning ultra instinct is using god ki so i would say its pretty important
@@Mr.EintheMorningconsidering it was introduced with Supreme Kai, it’s been forgettable for decades
God ki is just a path, its the path that goku and vegeta chose, it doesnt mean is the only way.
Ultimate Gohan fought ssjb kaioken Goku people got short memory these days Gohan has always been the strongest remember he terrified Frieza 3x in a row in the namek arc people just gotta hate
As long as piccolo not as strong as them im cool however they rank
Gohan is himHan shut up everybody like it's not even close it's this it's at the name that's been deserved and okay it's been not deserved for the last few arcs but
gohan is holding himself his eyes reveals this
Yup
I thought I was confirmed in the anime and manga that ultimate Gohan was on the level of blue
It was people just didn't want to accept it
I actually think it's better that Vegeta, Goku and Gohan are relative to eavh other.
I kind of wish broly could control his power so that we could see where he lands
If Broly doesn't get a new transformation or a buff he's gonna end up piccolo tier.
Broly needs to get control over him self and gohan is a suitible teacher for him
I don't remember them saying beast is blue level
And I doubt anyone believed that
There was a lot of
Did people actually think gohan wasn’t stronger than blue? That’s crazy. What are they even basing that on?
The fact that he wasn’t shit compared to SSB Goku or Vegeta SSBE in the Moro arc, didn’t train in Granolah arc nor superhero till he gained Beast.
Based on actual scaling perra
@@jessechatmanchatman1646 he’s been training off screen with piccolo since after gold frieza was introduced. And that still doesn’t make any sense. The beast transformation didn’t happen until superhero which happened (at least I’m the manga) after granolah and Moro did it not?
My boy go on his finally out of Fran watch
"Piccolo and Gohan arent equal to Goku and Vegeta" people really quiet right now 🤣
Watch their fight be towards the end of the chapter, just to wait for another month for the fight to be cut short and undecided
I think both goku and gohan are holding back.
And gohan is using a weaker version of beast
If Gohan was the first to achieve SS2 and then later in Buu saga Goku and Vegeta got SS2, I wonder if Goku and Vegeta can use Beast Form as well?
Well here is another claim and sorry again..
Gohan Beast vs Goku UI fight, is figurative of a tiger or a lion struggling against a martial artist in the same ring..
We all know how this will end up..
People talking about raw power vs skills don't understand that sometimes the quantity make the quality (!)
And in Gohan Beast case, the Beast inside of him is way ABOVE Goku's adaptative ability or his 'skills'..
The potential of the Beast inside of Gohan is in the same league as Gogeta Blue, an ocean of raw power while i believe Goku UI is certainly not in that realm yet..
Also Whis stated to Goku that he will never master UI as an Angel do for he would be an Angel to do so..
Well guess what, guys (?)
The Beast inside of Gohan is in that realm, a devil meaning an angel.
Toriyama stated in an interview, that Gohan had awakened the 'beast' within him..
And he officially named the transformation Gohan Beast..
Take a little detour in the Bible and read these passages, this will clear this up for you :
Revelation 12 : 8-9
"8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down-that ancient serpent called the DEVIL and SATAN, the deceiver of the whole world. He WAS HURLED TO THE EARTH, and his angels with him."
Revelation 13 : 11
"11Then I saw another BEAST rising out of the EARTH. This beast had two horns like a lamb, but spoke LIKE A DRAGON. "
These two passages of the Bible took together confirms that the BEAST out of the earth is simply the Devil, Satan being casted out from heaven to the earth, thus the Beast is the Devil in the Bible and may be the source of inspiration of the 'Beast transformation' in Dragon Ball super..
So take your BET..
Or make Vegeta 'nervous'..
בֶּ֙רַע֙
There's no such thing as "blue level"
- golden frieza in RoF was above "blue level"
- hit in manga was "blue level"
- black was below "blue level"
- fused zamasu was "blue level
- toppo was blue level with both blue and blue evolution
- Moro and Gas were "blue level"
Characters are getting stronger and that impacts power of forms. Current "blue level" would no diff everyone up to Jiren(or maybe including Jiren).
Even if, this "blue level" clashed with krilin, was keeping up with 17 and Kale ate it's kameha, it's not that Strong, just like whole DB verse Moro while doing his big self-destruction was able to destroy only galaxy.
Fusion of Kami and Piccolo also wasn't big amp, Piccolo before that was relative to ssj vegeta and after that was keeping up with 17, who is not much stronger than 18 who mid diffed Vegeta
Yeah I know but its easier to say blue level instead of saying “current arc super saiyan blue strength”
El pinche randi
I think Beast is a ssj2 multiplier stacked ontop of Ultimate which would also make MUI around 100x Blue as well.
Also about Black Freiza vs Beast Gohan, remember that Toriyama likes to recycle ideas, baby Gohan fought Freiza and hurt him badly and Freiza was in his 2nd or 3rd transformation, and if Goku beats Gohan it might be because Goku is more comfortable in his most powerful transformation than Gohan, I wouldn't say that it's because of hax more so just better mastery of his strongest transformation, also did anyone notice that Black Freiza and Beast Gohan both have red eyes in their new transformations?
Just guessing, but I think Goku is going full power. Just like when they trained in the time chamber Gohan is the one holding back thinking Goku is holding back. Goku wud typically go ssj first and then slowly level up when he wants to feel out someone's power but he went straight to his strongest form. Of course I cud be wrong.
I'm so excited for this fight I just made a whole song out of it (check it out if you like metal)
As long as I've watched dragon ball, Toriyama does not create a new form just to make it weaker than a technique/form even if it doesn't make sense why it should be stronger or on par. It needs to sell first and foremost. I'm not saying that Beast is stronger than Black Frieza though, because the same formula always happens. Frieza is the enemy that they need to beat.
Tbh I only see new comers (people who started watching DBS and not DBZ OR DBZK and older fans who forgot some details in DBZ) to the db franchise hate on Gohan, literally the creator himself does patterns in his writing and the pattern here is that Gohan has always had more potential than any one on earth so far as we know, when he trains he ends up being stronger than everyone from the z fighters to the villains, when he gets angry he gets a boost in power that surpasses everyone on the battle field (even as a baby and or toddler literally), the story ends up being about him or at least it was supposed to, every new transformation or technique that Gohan has ever learned has always ended up making him the strongest fighter, Gohan has been in tougher fights as a kid than literally any of the Z fighters and he also was on the battle field at the youngest age out of all the z fighters as well, Gohan had literally been training ever sense he was a toddler and he's been in the field fighting to the death against high level aliens and demons sense he was a toddler too, and on top of all of that he's half Saiyan, I'm tired of people saying "Gohan doesn't deserve a new transformation, he got it out of nowhere " or "Gohan being the strongest makes no sense" well the literal history of the dragon ball franchise says so and even in DBSSH movie Gohan claims to be doing secret training that he told no one about, and what happens most of the time when a Saiyan trains especially does secret training? or when they're in an impossible life or death situation to where they can't win? They get a new transformation. Goku did it with super Saiyan 1-3 and blue and Goku didn't even train to get red they just did a butt pull ritual, Vegeta did it with super Saiyan 1-2 and skips red and goes straight to blue and then he literally just appeared randomly with super Saiyan red and no explanation why or how, now back to Gohan he earned every transformation that he has, he just trained off screen this time and also Gohan tells us that he didn't even know that he could transform into beast he just transformed because he was in a impossible life or death situation which is literally normal for Saiyan's to do but on top of that he was doing secret training which actually gives Gohan double the reason why he was able to transform, what these new fans and even some old fans remember is resurrection F Gohan all the way up to the T.O.P version of Gohan, but they don't remember or even know about the DBZ Gohan, also ever sense resurrection of F and the entire DBS series they have been building up Gohan from the ashes like a phoenix, all people have to do is simply watch DBZ and DBS and it will clearly show that this isn't glazing at all it's just facts
I’m for gohan as my favorite character but for gohan to beat goku ui with no hard work behind achieving beast would be bad story development. Gohan ssj2 was great because he was trained and earned the transformation.
Vegeta vs Orange Piccolo would be even more hype than this fight imo, because its so weird that we've never seen piccolo fight vegeta
It would be hilarious if Vegeta got pissed off and used Spirit Fission to beat Kami, Nail, and the Wishes out of him 😂
Just have it as an extra page
Vegeta wins in the end in a good fight
Gohan definitely needs to win. Because I’ll give Goku even one more thing to get motivated, which is great to see with his character. Because right now he has black freeza, Broly, Beerus, Jiren, and whis
Gohan shouldn’t even be this strong since he quit martial arts and isn’t even a fighter. I’m sorry but dragon ball isn’t as good as it used to be and now instead of training I wouldn’t be surprised if pan goes ss5 or some shit because this is where db is going. Remember when Gohan went up against cell and powered up not because of emotions but had to train really hard to get there well now they threw all that out the window and apparently he can how toe to toe with his dad who literally does training etc non stop it’s bs
Vegeta can't defuse Kami and Piccolo because they're are one single being and their life force is tied to each other. They're one and the same person and should have never been apart in the first place.
lets be honest Out of everyone Gohan have been training the longest. Piccolo been training him since he was 3-4
These dbs transormations are all over the place with little to no explanation. But hey gotta take it for what it is
Goten needs to have his moment without Trunks before they give Gotenks a moment to shine
They better give him back his pupils…
I just can’t wait till the chapter comes out so we can see what’s going on
I was kinda bummed with the pupils not being present, lol. I am hoping it's just more of an error than a change 😂
These leaks just confirm what I suspected. Orange Piccolo would be ssb level, and Beast would be close or equal to MUI.
But if Gohan is holding back, we just gotta wait and see if goku is also holding back. But at least they are relative, which proves Goku would have defeated Cell Max too.
Edit: if people actually would confuse Beast and MUI, they haven't been watching or reading the series to know these characters have 2 totally separate forms 😂
Naw orange piccolo should be ui level because he one shotted gamma 1 who should be around blue goku from the broly movie or higher
@@xXSonTJXx blue goku from broly movie yes, I meant ssb goku currently
@@rafi_sensei5421he’s still above Blue bro he might not be MUI level but he’s far above blue level
@@rafi_sensei5421 Current Ultimate Gohan should be Current Blue Goku level
Orange Piccolo is probably around UI Sign tier more or less.
Gohan Beast is equal to PUI Goku, might be stronger. But we need to wait for next month to say it definitively
I don't want Orange Piccolo to be UI level, but I want him to be UI tier at least
Gohan Beast is awesome 😎
Where are the Gohan haters ;)
Gohan going toe to toe with Goku just proves Frieza is the strongest outside of Beerus
So I'm happy they finally put the Black Frieza vs Beast Gohan debate to rest
Naaaaaah, they both not fighting to kill or serious. They just training and feeling eachother out. Neither want to seriously injure the other
Never did you say that dragon ball characters are as strong as the top tiers of marvel and dc. Thats just untrue at all, unless you want to argue that dragon ball characters are outerversal. Bro hate to break it to you but freaking sonic characters can solo beat dragon ball characters.b
Congrats in making a paragraph off a nonchalant comment lol
Gohan Beast and Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku are comparable in strength, but Mastered Ultra Instinct is harder to maintain, which gives Gohan Beast the advantage .
Im pretty confident the eyes thing is Gohan holding back.
Same can be said about Goku considering the form he used fighting gas
@@Jason5818UIMUI is still Goku's strongest form.
@@Jason5818UINope. It's confirmed in the chapter that MUI is not only stronger than TUI, its his current strongest version of MUI.
@firionkaiser8291 now because of this fight between goku and Gohan its being established that MUI is the strongest form. Not sure why Toyotaura just didn't have that established in the last arc makes no sense TUI vs Gas was able to outperformed MUI which was defeated by Granolah
@michaelforde3126 couldn't tell by looking at the last arc ...the weaker form did better against the stronger opponent
Its been needing this for ages... now they just need to make all the saiyans and hybrids just as competitive as each other. Then there are reasons to keep it moving forward. Not just a typical 'new enemy, new level'.
Honestly, I'm not surprised that he's this strong. I don't even think Beast is the largest leap in power he's made, relatively speaking. Hell, ROF Gohan was so rusty that he needed Super Saiyan to match his Buu Era Ultimate form (even then, his body was really struggling to keep it together), yet he was able to become stronger than TOP SSG Goku after a year of training with Piccolo (some people say it was just one day but that's a misconception). That increase in power is so massive that it may be beyond fusion.
I was wrong, it seems Gohan is UI level, also Beerus said that was Goku stronguest tecnique, so it could be argue Goku can use white hear UI at 100%
Which is not very good for Goku, since that means Cell max and Broly are above him, even using UI at 100%
In my group FB, they said gohan beast just ssj god level because gohan ultimate is ssj2 level when he fight Goku in anime super, A bunch of idiots.
Im so glad the whole "gohan beast only blue level."crap is finally dead it was pretty obvious gohan is in the ultra levels of power with his new form and since he going back and forth with his dad in a standstill and if this keeps up for a good while in the next chapter this just saltifies manga continues wise gohan this point in the story at his peak stomps past super foes top jiren, broly(dbs broly event)angel moro, gronolah, maybe gas 50/50 hell since i want to be petty ultra ego vegeta and angel merus
UI Goku vs Beast Gohan is Awesome just the fact its mentioned
Yo so when someone goes into Beast Mode like Gohan it means an extremely aggressive or energetic style or manner that someone (such as an athlete) adopts temporarily (as to overpower an opponent in a fight or competition also unrivaled and unmatched
I can believe Gohan beast beat cell max with out any problem but i know goku and vegeta will struggle with cell max.
There has been a 9 months of time skip after the gronolah arc so this goku is gronolah arc goku + 9 months of training and we know that gohan stopped training again after the moro arc . And only started it again after sh . So even though gohan trained a little , goku never stopped training so he trained as well . Which makes goku's training more than gohans . So yeah , gohan beats gronolah arc goku .
Is was ever born? Blue is super old transformation, so regular, even Ultimate is stronger than Blue level.
beerus actually stated that mui is goku's strongest form in this chapter
It amazes me that ppl still try to deny Govan even after all this. Proof is in the writing can't wait to read the chapter.
I dont think any of these forms are at full power. Which is insane to think about the fact is either of these forms have been pushed to the brink much especially at the start and what is scary enough. Beerus mentioned that it was the strongest Ultra Instinct form yet....key word yet which means Goku can hold the silver hair form for longer using more of its techniques and power.
People don’t pay attention to the fact gohan was in the tournament of power and Moro arc. He trained with his dad before the tournament of power and goku was in his blue form.
5:20 I've gotta be real, I've never noticed the Gohan Beast pupil thing
If the writer say it then it's true
The fight looks so soulless and boring so far in my opinion, I am disappointed ngl.
This isn't the full fight. They just started. The rest is next chapter.
@@thebeginster it looks ass so far but i give them the benefit of the doubt and see how the full fight plays out but I am keeping my expectations low as for now.
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Beast is not God Ki so if Goku can actually stay in UI Beast should not be able to touch him
God ki doesn't mean anything. Frieza, Broly, Jiren, Granolah, gas etc none had god ki.
People using god ki as an argument need to be officially terminated by akira and toyotaro
Idiot 😂
People have hit UI before and Gohan did.
“If your mad at this your mad at the character Gohan” facts