If they think Lamar is "Special" now....watch what happens if they disrespect him and give that award to Allen. That chip on his shoulder will get larger and Lamar will have all the incentive he needs to go on a playoff run on the way to a SB victory and off the chart stats next season. If they rob him...I predict his stats next year will be 4300 passing yards, 1100 rushing yards, 45 touch down passes. So go ahead MVP Judges.. Unleash the Beast. You ain't seen **** yet!
There's flaws with every argument against Lamar being MVP. There are no arguments when you take out feelings and only look at facts, numbers, and stats.
We (the ravens) beat 7 playoff teams buffalo beat 2. Your division is a dumpster fire with all due respect to you unless you disagree with me which means you're biased but saying gotta show up for more games is a very simple minded inaccurate analysis considering buffalo hasn't done anything else other than beat 2 playoff teams...and beating the chiefs after 9 wins to begin their season kinda weakens the win but not taking away the win over kc as they give us fits but by percentage and probability whoever plays the chiefs after almost 10 wins straight are going to beat them. Its much different from beating an undefeated team in mlb.or nba as the nfl is grinding away week after week not building momentum and hot streaks its building your injury list to a peak. But yeah buffalo is not deserving of being given an advantage over the ravens, especially the unmistakable mvp leading lamar argument or debate which is ignorance and stupidity at this point to say lamar isnt clearly the mvp
@37:15 DO needs to have his MVP and possibly analyst credentials revoked at this point. That's a wild take, especially when you consider how much of the Lamar factor comes into play
Allen has only won 2 games against 5 playoff teams this season !!! 12 of 17 games -JA has played were against non playoff teams (17th game to be played vs NE) Division games -NYJ, NE, MIA plays twice Lamar Jackson is hands down the MVP LJ leads in almost all quarterback categories when compared to JA. JA has 2 more team wins but JA played against weaker teams most of the season. Passer rating LJ 121.6 (2nd highest ever in the NFL) JA 101.4 (NFL record 122.5 A Rodgers) Passing TD LJ 39 JA 28 Interceptions LJ 4 JA 6 LJ defeated JA 35-10 head to head. Raven’s defense was bad for most of the season. Missed field goals and defense cost the ravens most of the losses. LJ has been the MVP thru out the season, it’s not even close!!
When Acho is speaking about Lamar's previous wins, I believe he means that Lamar's previous MVP wins should be held against him to say give it to Josh b/c Lamar has two already.
@ yup early in the season with a new oline. Ravens were killing themself with penalties and missing kick. Lamar was keeping up with teams when ravens pass defense was dead last. Name 7 good teams the bills beat? Bills won games when Josh played like trash. That’s not an mvp. Bills can win without Josh.
@3Vizo Lamar was inaccurate all Browns game. Should've had like 5 ints but got lucky. He ended up with zero but was by no means a good game if you watched. Lamar had two chances to win the Raiders game. Ended up punting then ran for a hail mary. But what I've gathered is that cake walk games aren't a cake walk?
The media just manufactures hype for Josh Allen. Allen has always been a media creation. Lamar has better passing stats than Allen across the board. Allen has more interceptions at least. That's 1 passing category Allen leads Lamar.
I like how he just broke an nfl league record for the position he plays and were talking about anything other than how hes just surpassed literally every qb with legs EVER
I’m telling yall, I want buffalo in the divisional and kc in the afc chip game. All the smoke, I want it. When we are at our best there’s not a team that can best us, and we know Lamar’s record with the nfc, we make it out of our conference it’s over
IT IS JUST SO DAM HARD FOR PEOPLE TO JUST LOOK AT WHAT LAMAR DOES THE WAY HE DOES THINGS THE EASE HE DOES THINGS THE WAY HE BRINGS HIS TEAM AND TEAMMATES ALONG WITH HIM HE GOES TO WAR WITH THEM HE'S THAT GOOD REMEMBER HE'S BEEN PLAYING QB LIKE A SUPERSTAR SINCE HE WAS 8 THE ONLY POSITION HE'S EVER PLAYED. YEA HE'S THAT DAM GOOD MVP 3 HOW ABOUT 7 OR 8 MORE MVPS TO COME GET USED TO IT.
I never see a strength of schedule argument. I feel like who you play matters just like what weapons you have matters. VS teams over .500, Lamar 9-3, Allen 3-3.
I understand the argument for Allen. Currently, the #2 seed. Recent victory over both #1 seeds. There are no big names on offense, and had a couple of highlights to support. I think there is some fatigue with LJ, not having great stats last year hurts him. Also I think having people vote for Henry, then it takes away from him.
Their Pity is like when Lamar gets 2 Superbowl wins....🤔let me guess......their gonna say since Lamar got 2 Superbowls.... Don't let him win 3 🤷🤦... Referee's should make sure they call against the Ravens #whata'shame 🤦🤦🤦.... They should Just face it MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯 💪 💯
What isn't being considered... is that the Bills & Ravens are likely to play in the playoffs. There could be a hesitancy to vote LJ8 because of past playoff performances, and all of these in season ridiculous arguments are a smokescreen for the possibility of another poor performance by LJ8 in a loss to the Bills... and the other front runner for MVP... That is to say... the voters don't wanna have to justify voting for LJ8 if they think he is likely to lose to Allen ( actually the Bills defense ) in the playoffs. I know it's a reg season award, but we have to contend with human nature... It's a terrible consideration, but here we are... LJ8 is definitely the MVP again... unless he bombs on Sunday...
Yet Lamar only has 31 incompletions in tight window throws which includes all the drops but both burrow and Allen have well over 50 incompletions in those same type of throws which still gives Lamar the edge
@36:10 lol. "Benefactor" and "contributor" are essentially the same things. But if you really want to nitpick, a "benefactor" would be even more of a GOAT than just a "contributor". The word DO was looking for is "beneficiary". Someone check that man's medicine cabinet
Why is this even a discussion? It’s all about the postseason. The way this team plays in the postseason the MVP shouldn’t be anything close to a priority
Those “hateful Bills fans” donated in record numbers to Blessings in a Backpack when Lamar got hurt in the playoffs but we not talkin about that apparently.
I'm Baltimore Ravens through and through but last year most voters gave it to Lamar because he was doing with less and that's what they trying to say about Josh Allen he's doing it with less Lamar a super bowl
As I have said b4, Josh is gonna get it b/c he is having a fantastic season, and that may never happen again. After this year, he may go back to being a turnover machine. Lamar is always amazing.
The MVP is not a "participation trophy" and Sarah is right!!! Josh will be the most miserable MVP winner in history because it will look like he got it only because Lamar has 2 already!!! I am starting to feel sorry for Josh Allen already and the award doesn't get announced until January 5th!!!!
D.O. needs to be drug tested! Yo said Ravens receivers are open more than Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. 🤦🏾♂️😑😑😑 He has lost his marbles 🤪 Lamar is the reason they get separation.
You guys should be aware that these Sports Shows are totally scripted. Their personal opinions usually differ from what they're scripted to argue. All of these Shows are the same. Viewership depends on these arguments which is why they all have different opinions. IF THEY ALL HAD THE SAME OPINIONS, PEOPLE WOULDN'T WATCH. Dan is not dumb and I actually believe these are NOT his opinions but the shows writer's. Lamar is MVP3...
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If they think Lamar is "Special" now....watch what happens if they disrespect him and give that award to Allen. That chip on his shoulder will get larger and Lamar will have all the incentive he needs to go on a playoff run on the way to a SB victory and off the chart stats next season. If they rob him...I predict his stats next year will be 4300 passing yards, 1100 rushing yards, 45 touch down passes. So go ahead MVP Judges.. Unleash the Beast. You ain't seen **** yet!
Josh Allen's 12 to 13 rush Touchdowns are equivalent to approximately 75 yards
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There's flaws with every argument against Lamar being MVP. There are no arguments when you take out feelings and only look at facts, numbers, and stats.
Lost to Browns and Raiders. Worse record. 3 seed doesn't win MVPs
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@@mr.horton935 cool week 4 win. Gotta show up for more games
We (the ravens) beat 7 playoff teams buffalo beat 2. Your division is a dumpster fire with all due respect to you unless you disagree with me which means you're biased but saying gotta show up for more games is a very simple minded inaccurate analysis considering buffalo hasn't done anything else other than beat 2 playoff teams...and beating the chiefs after 9 wins to begin their
season kinda weakens the win but not taking away the win over kc as they give us fits but by percentage and probability
whoever plays the chiefs after almost 10 wins straight are
going to beat them. Its much different from beating an undefeated team in mlb.or nba as the nfl is grinding away week after week not building momentum and hot streaks its building your injury list to a peak. But yeah buffalo is not deserving of being given an advantage over the ravens,
especially the unmistakable mvp leading lamar argument or debate which is ignorance and stupidity at this point to say lamar isnt clearly the mvp
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@37:15 DO needs to have his MVP and possibly analyst credentials revoked at this point. That's a wild take, especially when you consider how much of the Lamar factor comes into play
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Allen has only won 2 games against 5 playoff teams this season !!!
12 of 17 games -JA has played were against non playoff teams (17th game to be played vs NE)
Division games -NYJ, NE, MIA plays twice
Lamar Jackson is hands down the MVP
LJ leads in almost all quarterback categories when compared to JA. JA has 2 more team wins but JA played against weaker teams most of the season.
Passer rating
LJ 121.6 (2nd highest ever in the NFL)
JA 101.4
(NFL record 122.5 A Rodgers)
Passing TD
LJ 39
JA 28
Interceptions
LJ 4
JA 6
LJ defeated JA 35-10 head to head.
Raven’s defense was bad for most of the season.
Missed field goals and defense cost the ravens most of the losses.
LJ has been the MVP thru out the season, it’s not even close!!
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When Acho is speaking about Lamar's previous wins, I believe he means that Lamar's previous MVP wins should be held against him to say give it to Josh b/c Lamar has two already.
Josh beat 3 teams over 500. Lamar 7. Bills schedule was a cake walk all season.
Cake walk games... like the Browns and Raiders?
@ yup early in the season with a new oline. Ravens were killing themself with penalties and missing kick. Lamar was keeping up with teams when ravens pass defense was dead last. Name 7 good teams the bills beat? Bills won games when Josh played like trash. That’s not an mvp. Bills can win without Josh.
@3Vizo Lamar was inaccurate all Browns game. Should've had like 5 ints but got lucky. He ended up with zero but was by no means a good game if you watched.
Lamar had two chances to win the Raiders game. Ended up punting then ran for a hail mary.
But what I've gathered is that cake walk games aren't a cake walk?
@ and you can’t even name 4 teams the bills beat with a winning record
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The media just manufactures hype for Josh Allen. Allen has always been a media creation. Lamar has better passing stats than Allen across the board. Allen has more interceptions at least. That's 1 passing category Allen leads Lamar.
Josh Allen has more career turnovers than Daniel Jones.
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38:26 if anything his stats boost Lamar mvp case he’s more precise and composed in the pocket or out of it
I like how he just broke an nfl league record for the position he plays and were talking about anything other than how hes just surpassed literally every qb with legs EVER
How could Josh be the MVP last year with 18 ints. He didn’t even make the pro bowl in 2023.
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I’m telling yall, I want buffalo in the divisional and kc in the afc chip game. All the smoke, I want it. When we are at our best there’s not a team that can best us, and we know Lamar’s record with the nfc, we make it out of our conference it’s over
BUF running back James Cook has 15 TDs and Derrick Henry has 14 TDs😒 I’ll leave it there.
He averages more yards per carry as well lmao
It seems Dan Orlovsky is the new Mike Florio.
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Bills fan here life long both qb's deserve it wait and see
I hope Saquon wins it just to piss off bills fans.
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There's some race or friendship favoritism going on here, when even Stevie Wonder can see Lamar is the MVP.
Joey b. Has over 150 more passing atts.
LJ’s efficiency doesn’t get enough mention. He can do so much damage with just a couple throws. MV3!
IT IS JUST SO DAM HARD FOR PEOPLE TO JUST LOOK AT WHAT LAMAR DOES THE WAY HE DOES THINGS THE EASE HE DOES THINGS THE WAY HE BRINGS HIS TEAM AND TEAMMATES ALONG WITH HIM HE GOES TO WAR WITH THEM HE'S THAT GOOD REMEMBER HE'S BEEN PLAYING QB LIKE A SUPERSTAR SINCE HE WAS 8 THE ONLY POSITION HE'S EVER PLAYED. YEA HE'S THAT DAM GOOD MVP 3 HOW ABOUT 7 OR 8 MORE MVPS TO COME GET USED TO IT.
I never see a strength of schedule argument. I feel like who you play matters just like what weapons you have matters. VS teams over .500, Lamar 9-3, Allen 3-3.
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I understand the argument for Allen. Currently, the #2 seed. Recent victory over both #1 seeds. There are no big names on offense, and had a couple of highlights to support. I think there is some fatigue with LJ, not having great stats last year hurts him. Also I think having people vote for Henry, then it takes away from him.
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Their Pity is like when Lamar gets 2 Superbowl wins....🤔let me guess......their gonna say since Lamar got 2 Superbowls.... Don't let him win 3 🤷🤦... Referee's should make sure they call against the Ravens #whata'shame 🤦🤦🤦.... They should Just face it MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯 💪 💯
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What isn't being considered... is that the Bills & Ravens are likely to play in the playoffs.
There could be a hesitancy to vote LJ8 because of past playoff performances, and all of these in season ridiculous arguments are a smokescreen for the possibility of another poor performance by LJ8 in a loss to the Bills... and the other front runner for MVP...
That is to say... the voters don't wanna have to justify voting for LJ8 if they think he is likely to lose to Allen ( actually the Bills defense ) in the playoffs.
I know it's a reg season award, but we have to contend with human nature...
It's a terrible consideration, but here we are...
LJ8 is definitely the MVP again... unless he bombs on Sunday...
Yet Lamar only has 31 incompletions in tight window throws which includes all the drops but both burrow and Allen have well over 50 incompletions in those same type of throws which still gives Lamar the edge
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@36:10 lol. "Benefactor" and "contributor" are essentially the same things. But if you really want to nitpick, a "benefactor" would be even more of a GOAT than just a "contributor". The word DO was looking for is "beneficiary". Someone check that man's medicine cabinet
Why is this even a discussion? It’s all about the postseason. The way this team plays in the postseason the MVP shouldn’t be anything close to a priority
Those “hateful Bills fans” donated in record numbers to Blessings in a Backpack when Lamar got hurt in the playoffs but we not talkin about that apparently.
Joey burrow has Chase & Higgins but people saying that Lamar numbers is only because of Henry
Dan wants to argue separation? Like Ravens WRs are not getting open because LJ is running around on the backfield.
I'm Baltimore Ravens through and through but last year most voters gave it to Lamar because he was doing with less and that's what they trying to say about Josh Allen he's doing it with less Lamar a super bowl
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After seeing where the media pundits are saying, it seems like Josh Allen is gonna win it. There already made those minds up.
What is burrow without elite receivers?
Ima die hard ravens and Lamar fan. They definitely giving it to Josh because they gonna say Lamar got 2. He will definitely get it
Let Allen have the MVP. We want the Superbowl!
Bate pancaked then still separated like a boss on that route lol
😂😂😂 this guy DO is crazy
Do Bills fans have nothing better to do with their time? Where are they here? Jealous?
Lamar's neck is huge.. has its own biceps lmao
As I have said b4, Josh is gonna get it b/c he is having a fantastic season, and that may never happen again. After this year, he may go back to being a turnover machine. Lamar is always amazing.
The 1st ABL (anybody but Lamar) Trophy goes to Josh Allen!
MVPitty is happening because the announcers have nothing new to say. Maybe they need a new job if they are burned out.
And when did we start counting rush touchdowns anyway,.... oh when it pertains to Josh Allen 🤔🫣
Lamar shouldn't have to "ball out" in the final game to win the MVP in a landslide.
WHAT ABOUT STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE !
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The MVP is not a "participation trophy" and Sarah is right!!! Josh will be the most miserable MVP winner in history because it will look like he got it only because Lamar has 2 already!!! I am starting to feel sorry for Josh Allen already and the award doesn't get announced until January 5th!!!!
Sarah can you call this guy and school him?
josh is going to win the mvp pity awards lol got a lot of prejuduce voters
NO WAY IN HECK
(ACHO VOTES) FOR LAMAR
D.O. needs to be drug tested! Yo said Ravens receivers are open more than Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. 🤦🏾♂️😑😑😑 He has lost his marbles 🤪 Lamar is the reason they get separation.
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You guys should be aware that these Sports Shows are totally scripted. Their personal opinions usually differ from what they're scripted to argue. All of these Shows are the same. Viewership depends on these arguments which is why they all have different opinions. IF THEY ALL HAD THE SAME OPINIONS, PEOPLE WOULDN'T WATCH. Dan is not dumb and I actually believe these are NOT his opinions but the shows writer's. Lamar is MVP3...
Allen just beat a last place team. Lamar just blew out a playoff yeam.
Didn't matter they had plenty of chances in overtime to win. Play calling in OT was horrible!!