FYI, you can use E proc to deny. When your (range) creep is about to go below half hp, pull aggro and start denying. Enemy creeps can proc E and you can double / tripple hit your own unit :) try it in demo. It makes people mad when they have very little to no space to secure range creep because you just hit hit hit :)
Seeing this I’m like, “oh wow could it be legion commander? As a dedicated PoS 5 who typically plays warlock or disruptor, I’d love a video that causes even MORE people to pick LC to come out. I’m so grateful to be constantly against a hero that purges my spell damage, gains a barrier to my right clicks, and if I try to harass it might help them last hit and deny.”
a common mistake i see everyone making like even immortals is casting q before ult as u can cast q during ult it is a little risky to use q before ult coz it can sometimes make u out of range of duel
At beginning or lanning any hero that can die from duel like supports . At late game u have to choose carries, if let’s say u duel void or real phantom lancer late game u can win the game . At my mmr (2k) lc duels lion or hoodwink at 60 minute mark and then dying from enemy carry and losing the game
Also ur priority depends if hero can disrupt ur duel. U can definitely duel first dazzle or wyvern, or enemies with global ults like enigma or silencer
i always get an orchid after blink into shard, orchid solves my mana problem, disabling enemy, spamming my 2nd and break the linken. late game u can sell ur blade mail into bloodthorn and get halberd/eul/nullifier to break their linken
Speed you always emphasize shipping items out asap but could you clarify from a pro perspective if its better to instantly ship it and miss a few creep of finish the creep wave and wait a little to item ship? My biggest dilemma in game
Probably he is trying to let weaver think that he could deny that creep in propose and punish the weaver with the creep proc LC third skill, hopes that will help
Speeed, what do you think about night stalker being the 2nd best offlaner, with his facet having the laning stage start at night he can really set the tempo properly, by the time day comes most likely he will be level 5 maybe even level 6 so enemy cant really punish him, and when the night comes again he starts hunting enemies
3:20 i wish more carries or the guy who takes the farm(cs) in offlane would understand this like im supporting them harassing the enemy so they could farm easily and get fat they leave the creep wave and go feed under their tier 1 twer at lvl 2-3 and they keep repeating dat until we lose the lane no matter how much i beg them to just take the farm they gonna act stupid and it make my blood boil the reason i hate supporting 2-3k players is that
4:08 you just only mentioned last week that you recommend double bracer for legion in your broken hero metas. And now you say don't go double bracer? Please make up your mind
Meta changes everytime, people now knows that they have to back up when the shield is on, thats why its better to have boots, it was a big patch, now make a decision with your own criteria based on what it makes sense for you
@@maxmorales8998 buying 2nd bracer with Legion isn't very different than boot in my opinion. Legion with extra move speed in early game isn't super strong considering Legion has average right click in early game even with attack speed of Q. I always buy boot to Slardar and Ursa in minute 2-3 but early boot to Legion isn't too much important. He bought boot due to Weaver and Spirit breaker are slow moving hero and low hp (after using their skills of course) and he gained upper hand early in the lane.
@@Asterix958 I disagree, boots are not just for being ofensive, but defensive too, it can help to disengage or hit a creep without being harassed, for last focusing a weak support, if it was not Weaver, it could've been a lich or lion, etc, Legion has very good sustain already with pasive and 2nd skill, double bracer just delays her other items, and Lc is a timing hero
@@maxmorales8998 Understandable. Legion doesn't need bracer most of the time. Bracer is mostly against constantly harassing heroes. Legion doesn't have a problem like that. Let's say enemy is Slardar, Timbersaw or Ursa, second bracer can be good. I agree 90% of time, boot is better and second bracer is wrong play. Boot is best item for pressuring melee heroes.
I dare you to show some real hard lane and playing from behind instead of cherry picked game with one of the easiest lanes possible, spirit breaker pos 5, really ?
Is that a 12k mmr game? It was so perfect game for you. The enemy supports have no adjustment, veno should play top and bara stay bottom. Idk it seems like its so easy game. Playing without any plan of winning for dire team. Low class dota in short for 12k mmr game.
Legion is stomper. I think no low range or melee hero has a chance against Legion in lane. Yesterday, I was Juggernaut, Legion whoop my ass just using Q. Q has also surprisingly very high radius.
You made alot of mistakes, finishing wand, bracer. You could just buy boots and every time he W you kill him... Yes, I am lower MMR then you, but I have 17win streak now as LC. And you don't need 1-1-1 build, max Q get kills, its bug early game… For what you really need W for? Explain that high and mighty! :p 4:18 YES! But why did you skill W then? To dispel baras noting, bug nothing? Ohhh yes, early Veno rotation, :p See how does it sound when you are condescending? GJ. 9:20 you buy shard at 15 min if you have a free game.
And you don't need BKB and Ags, it is overkill. Better to buy SB to put FEAR in their bones, there are a lot more mistakes, but I don't want to be like you. Why did you activate MB when you were casing veno up there? Lots of mistakes like that, but you are 11k, so you probably noticed that your self. See Mr.11 you don't understand, that's why you have W, oke that was deep dive game was over, but you can dispel dust, and you are still basically hasted from Q, and yes S&Y is better than BKB on LC, you can run for kills as well... It is not only defensive stuff.
FYI, you can use E proc to deny. When your (range) creep is about to go below half hp, pull aggro and start denying. Enemy creeps can proc E and you can double / tripple hit your own unit :) try it in demo. It makes people mad when they have very little to no space to secure range creep because you just hit hit hit :)
Wasnt that removed/fixed like a year ago?
I think it was fixed
Seeing this I’m like, “oh wow could it be legion commander? As a dedicated PoS 5 who typically plays warlock or disruptor, I’d love a video that causes even MORE people to pick LC to come out. I’m so grateful to be constantly against a hero that purges my spell damage, gains a barrier to my right clicks, and if I try to harass it might help them last hit and deny.”
Thx speed! Will definitely try that blink dagger reveal trick!
a common mistake i see everyone making like even immortals is casting q before ult as u can cast q during ult it is a little risky to use q before ult coz it can sometimes make u out of range of duel
axe is definitely #1 over legion, especially after the 50% barrier nerf. higher wr and pr on d2pt
Hey, what do you think of Tidehunter now? I have been quite succesful since the facets came out. Could you do a video of how to get max of him now?
thx for the video, can you share video when you lose and explain what you could have done better ? thx :)
Can you make a video on how to counter legion commander, specially in the lane phase
Google LC counter :) But Oracle, Abadon, Dazzle are good even Skywrath (with or against)
Lifesteal if ur carry like satanic. Linkens / butterfly if she has tons 9f right click dmg.
noob question here. after the midgame scenario. what item should i go if the enemies has linken? abyssal and nulifier?
Speed, what are your tips on how to select heroes that you will duel? Can you give different situations? Thank you.
At beginning or lanning any hero that can die from duel like supports . At late game u have to choose carries, if let’s say u duel void or real phantom lancer late game u can win the game . At my mmr (2k) lc duels lion or hoodwink at 60 minute mark and then dying from enemy carry and losing the game
Also ur priority depends if hero can disrupt ur duel. U can definitely duel first dazzle or wyvern, or enemies with global ults like enigma or silencer
I love these videos! Always is good to see what your thought and gameplay, it helps a lot
After aghs you need something to break linken's sphere
Can you show a video where its not a complete stomp, Like how do you play and itemize LC when your super behind
Best offlaner is still Axe. First pick ban. I only pick armour debuff and pure damage heroes now.
i always get an orchid after blink into shard, orchid solves my mana problem, disabling enemy, spamming my 2nd and break the linken. late game u can sell ur blade mail into bloodthorn and get halberd/eul/nullifier to break their linken
Lmao orchid after blink makes no sense buy sceptor or shard you literally have a built in taunt
@@Fixation12424 u totally miss my point, do some reading my friend
Speed you always emphasize shipping items out asap but could you clarify from a pro perspective if its better to instantly ship it and miss a few creep of finish the creep wave and wait a little to item ship? My biggest dilemma in game
what about against enemy with linkens or Eblade? What do you do then?
What about a value Blight Stone for early game?
What is your immortal rank? I assume you are among the best 1000.
2:00 one question.
what took you so long to cs the creep thats already so low and ended up missing the cs anyway?
Probably he is trying to let weaver think that he could deny that creep in propose and punish the weaver with the creep proc LC third skill, hopes that will help
I don't know how the hell you're getting 2 abilities at level 1.
Did anyone figure out how to play against the new walking sandstorm SK
I think Sk is the best offlaner this patch
where is the Tier list ? pls Make a video for it
@6:22 you did something what you 1 min before said you would never do
Speeed, what do you think about night stalker being the 2nd best offlaner, with his facet having the laning stage start at night he can really set the tempo properly, by the time day comes most likely he will be level 5 maybe even level 6 so enemy cant really punish him, and when the night comes again he starts hunting enemies
i'd say axe #1, legion #2, ns #3. sk is mega slept on too, might even be better than legion
3:20 i wish more carries or the guy who takes the farm(cs) in offlane would understand this like im supporting them harassing the enemy so they could farm easily and get fat they leave the creep wave and go feed under their tier 1 twer at lvl 2-3 and they keep repeating dat until we lose the lane no matter how much i beg them to just take the farm they gonna act stupid and it make my blood boil the reason i hate supporting 2-3k players is that
Do creep stuff then instead of harrass
Marci guide pls.
Picks >>> skill.
Change my mind
4:08 you just only mentioned last week that you recommend double bracer for legion in your broken hero metas. And now you say don't go double bracer? Please make up your mind
Meta changes everytime, people now knows that they have to back up when the shield is on, thats why its better to have boots, it was a big patch, now make a decision with your own criteria based on what it makes sense for you
@@maxmorales8998 buying 2nd bracer with Legion isn't very different than boot in my opinion. Legion with extra move speed in early game isn't super strong considering Legion has average right click in early game even with attack speed of Q. I always buy boot to Slardar and Ursa in minute 2-3 but early boot to Legion isn't too much important. He bought boot due to Weaver and Spirit breaker are slow moving hero and low hp (after using their skills of course) and he gained upper hand early in the lane.
@@Asterix958 I disagree, boots are not just for being ofensive, but defensive too, it can help to disengage or hit a creep without being harassed, for last focusing a weak support, if it was not Weaver, it could've been a lich or lion, etc, Legion has very good sustain already with pasive and 2nd skill, double bracer just delays her other items, and Lc is a timing hero
@@maxmorales8998 Understandable. Legion doesn't need bracer most of the time. Bracer is mostly against constantly harassing heroes. Legion doesn't have a problem like that. Let's say enemy is Slardar, Timbersaw or Ursa, second bracer can be good. I agree 90% of time, boot is better and second bracer is wrong play. Boot is best item for pressuring melee heroes.
Ahh yeah, people are not allowed to change their opinion. Sure.
I dare you to show some real hard lane and playing from behind instead of cherry picked game with one of the easiest lanes possible, spirit breaker pos 5, really ?
if LC vs drow or MK in laning that will be hard lol
Is that a 12k mmr game? It was so perfect game for you. The enemy supports have no adjustment, veno should play top and bara stay bottom. Idk it seems like its so easy game. Playing without any plan of winning for dire team. Low class dota in short for 12k mmr game.
Day 22 of asking speed to play position 1 Io
God, that weaver is bad...
Easy to watch other people and say theyre bad
Legion is a stomp
Legion is stomper. I think no low range or melee hero has a chance against Legion in lane. Yesterday, I was Juggernaut, Legion whoop my ass just using Q. Q has also surprisingly very high radius.
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Had two LC players in two games and they won 1 duel each 😅
You made alot of mistakes, finishing wand, bracer. You could just buy boots and every time he W you kill him... Yes, I am lower MMR then you, but I have 17win streak now as LC. And you don't need 1-1-1 build, max Q get kills, its bug early game… For what you really need W for? Explain that high and mighty! :p 4:18 YES! But why did you skill W then? To dispel baras noting, bug nothing? Ohhh yes, early Veno rotation, :p See how does it sound when you are condescending? GJ. 9:20 you buy shard at 15 min if you have a free game.
And you don't need BKB and Ags, it is overkill. Better to buy SB to put FEAR in their bones, there are a lot more mistakes, but I don't want to be like you. Why did you activate MB when you were casing veno up there? Lots of mistakes like that, but you are 11k, so you probably noticed that your self. See Mr.11 you don't understand, that's why you have W, oke that was deep dive game was over, but you can dispel dust, and you are still basically hasted from Q, and yes S&Y is better than BKB on LC, you can run for kills as well... It is not only defensive stuff.
PPS, and this game they did not just run around? What was that Lina kill? SK kill? Prolly more if you had your SB.
Thinking that you know better than someone that is clearly better than you at the game is probably one of the reasons he has way more mmr than you do.
@@matiaswischnivetzky3943this is clearly rage bait no way he said skip bkb and aghs on lc and just go directly shadowblade 🤣
@@matiaswischnivetzky3943 You have missed the point.
Dude there entire team is trash heroes
Wow, bait thumbnail, very good, here, have my dislike
this game is turning into a trash joke