My goal is to become a WSO on fighterjets ! I think that's a really cool job where i will be verry happy and proud to wake up every morning and go to work ! I will do all i can do to achieve my goal and with hardwork and dedication nothing it's impossible so let's do this :) !
I'm waiting to be a CSO in the French Air Force (we called that "NOSA" over here). Already passed the tests, now waiting for the decision of the recruitment board :) I'm looking forward to start my training !
Thanks for putting this on here. I'm going to be sending this link to my family and friends. Your video gives an awesome explanation of the CSO career field.
"DOSS" Oh Alber"TOSS", Do TOSS the Ball To THEM All, After-all, It's not at the Mall, But the Banquet Hall: USAFIO's "Vocatio": An "Invitation to Dinner" To be a Winner And cleanse the Sinner! Oh Alber'TOSS" To TOSS the Ball to rising Action: an evolving COMPaction: All WIN and NO LOSS! Salute The BOSS at DOSS!
This is my 14yr old son's dream. He will be 15 on August 3rd & going into 10th grade this coming 2020 - 2021 school year. We moved from our home state, PA, to the south and there is no JROTC program at his high school. Congratulations to all those who graduated and will be soon. Thank you to ALL members of the military for your service and continuation of your services. #AimHigh #FlyFightWin #USAF
As a CSO can you choose what aircraft you get assigned to? Or is there a ranking process in school? I can't find much on this topic lol I'd love to be a bomber CSO
As a CSO in training, you put in a dream sheet for the airframes you want. They (The Air Force) choose you an airframe based on your class ranking and the needs of the Air Force. B-52's drop regularly and B-1s are very competitive. If you eventually go through CSO training, be the best you can be to increase your chances of getting the airframe you want. I am currently here in Pcola in training.
Natehanibal Thank you for the information! So are all the fighter frames pretty competitive too? I'm just hoping if I go for CSO to get one of the two frames haha but like you said it's all about performance! Good luck in your training man!
This was a good transition as day and night cell training went away. This was me 35 years ago as I started Nav training at Mather AFB, CA and became a NAV/EWO. Best secret...RC-135!
Are the CSO graduates actually rated pilots? Sure seems like lots of sim and actual stick time. Sounds good. Oh, does the USAF still have traditional Nav. training?
+Old glory CSOs are not rated pilots. They do not manipulate the controls and their experience does not translate over to to the civilian world as far as getting a pilot certificate. With a couple rare exceptions of CSO, WSO and NFO's actually having a civilian rating that they obtained outside of the military and having access to the flight controls inside the aircraft, they cannot log flight time which counts towards any FAA requirements.
In the F-15E, the CSO's cockpit does have basic flight controls such as the stick and throttles, so Capt Cook can theoretically fly the jet. However, her role as a CSO is to operate the weapon systems. aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23628/f15-e-pilot-incapacitated-can-the-wso-take-over
Question for any CSO out on RUclips: What motivates someone to be CSO over being a pilot? It seems like you'd have to have a passion for aviation and probably thought of being a pilot growing up. But it seems like this path really limits your civilian options when you get out. Why be a CSO over pilot? Is CSO is an easier slot to get? I'm an Army Guard MP officer so I have no dog in this fight, but I just want to understand why someone would get in this career field but not be a pilot.
Pilot is "only" doing the piloting job. CSOs are mission commanders. It is a more strategic job vs. a pilot job, which focus on short-term maneuvers. A CSO can develop impressive organizational and management skills that can be useful in a civilian job.
Damn, if I was younger, I would love to do this!
I'm a retired Army Engineer officer.
Is that Rage Against the Machine I hear in the background?
Yessir. That sounds like their song "Sleep Now in The Fire" (I know this is a really old comment, but for other people's interest)
My goal is to become a WSO on fighterjets ! I think that's a really cool job where i will be verry happy and proud to wake up every morning and go to work ! I will do all i can do to achieve my goal and with hardwork and dedication nothing it's impossible so let's do this :) !
I am also applying for CSO and this video was very informative, thank you for posting it
I'm waiting to be a CSO in the French Air Force (we called that "NOSA" over here). Already passed the tests, now waiting for the decision of the recruitment board :) I'm looking forward to start my training !
Good luck!
Awesome job man! Did you make it?
Thanks for putting this on here. I'm going to be sending this link to my family and friends. Your video gives an awesome explanation of the CSO career field.
I am a Met major, and never knew that this was a possibility!!! Thanks for the video!!
"DOSS"
Oh Alber"TOSS",
Do TOSS the Ball
To THEM All,
After-all,
It's not at the Mall,
But the Banquet Hall:
USAFIO's "Vocatio":
An "Invitation to Dinner"
To be a Winner
And cleanse the Sinner!
Oh Alber'TOSS"
To TOSS the Ball
to rising Action:
an evolving COMPaction:
All WIN and NO LOSS!
Salute The BOSS
at DOSS!
Thank you for making this video. My son will be graduating from this program in 3 months.
Congratulations, Kevin!!!! Like father like son he must be - just like dad...in full integrate....
This is my 14yr old son's dream. He will be 15 on August 3rd & going into 10th grade this coming 2020 - 2021 school year. We moved from our home state, PA, to the south and there is no JROTC program at his high school.
Congratulations to all those who graduated and will be soon. Thank you to ALL members of the military for your service and continuation of your services. #AimHigh #FlyFightWin #USAF
Pretty much like Flight Officers/NFO in the Navy (and Marines, too)
As a CSO can you choose what aircraft you get assigned to? Or is there a ranking process in school? I can't find much on this topic lol I'd love to be a bomber CSO
As a CSO in training, you put in a dream sheet for the airframes you want. They (The Air Force) choose you an airframe based on your class ranking and the needs of the Air Force. B-52's drop regularly and B-1s are very competitive. If you eventually go through CSO training, be the best you can be to increase your chances of getting the airframe you want. I am currently here in Pcola in training.
Natehanibal Thank you for the information! So are all the fighter frames pretty competitive too? I'm just hoping if I go for CSO to get one of the two frames haha but like you said it's all about performance! Good luck in your training man!
you can choose in the Air National Guard.
Do you need to be hella good at math to be commissioned as a CSO?
helps. thanks a lot
no.
No I'm a Criminal Justice major. Sooooo...... no
omg this is rough
This was a good transition as day and night cell training went away. This was me 35 years ago as I started Nav training at Mather AFB, CA and became a NAV/EWO. Best secret...RC-135!
Are the CSO graduates actually rated pilots? Sure seems like lots of sim and actual stick time. Sounds good. Oh, does the USAF still have traditional Nav. training?
Bbendfender Did you watch the video? Cause it's in there...
Nav is a CSO and yes, they are rated
+Old glory CSOs are not rated pilots. They do not manipulate the controls and their experience does not translate over to to the civilian world as far as getting a pilot certificate. With a couple rare exceptions of CSO, WSO and NFO's actually having a civilian rating that they obtained outside of the military and having access to the flight controls inside the aircraft, they cannot log flight time which counts towards any FAA requirements.
Caleb DeMarco WSOs are CSOs. They are rated and get flight pay. Also, the F-15E has controls in the back
Being rated as a WSO doesn't mean you're a pilot. Getting flight pay doesn't either. Lol
Any idea how this career field can translate into the civilian world after your service?
Mainly through your leadership skills you acquire as an officer and an aircraft commander
Very helpful
Clarification please. At 11:42, Capt Jen Cook flies with a pilot or does she pilot the the aircraft as well?
In the F-15E, the CSO's cockpit does have basic flight controls such as the stick and throttles, so Capt Cook can theoretically fly the jet. However, her role as a CSO is to operate the weapon systems. aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23628/f15-e-pilot-incapacitated-can-the-wso-take-over
Is this common? because AF pilots never ask for CSO's
Question for any CSO out on RUclips: What motivates someone to be CSO over being a pilot? It seems like you'd have to have a passion for aviation and probably thought of being a pilot growing up. But it seems like this path really limits your civilian options when you get out. Why be a CSO over pilot? Is CSO is an easier slot to get?
I'm an Army Guard MP officer so I have no dog in this fight, but I just want to understand why someone would get in this career field but not be a pilot.
Pilot is "only" doing the piloting job. CSOs are mission commanders. It is a more strategic job vs. a pilot job, which focus on short-term maneuvers. A CSO can develop impressive organizational and management skills that can be useful in a civilian job.
CSO's tend to be pilot recruits who didn't complete pilot training or people who want to fly but don't have the aptitude to be pilots.
11:22, JStars " World's premier C2ISR Platform" LMAO.
lol i caught that too. He must be drunk.
You forgot the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy as a commission source for this designation.
they are naval aviator, this is Air Force
Why do ALL U.S. Officers regardless of Service talk like Robots ?
Haha, I think it's because they're reading a script.
+Roy C Horton I just want to know why they have to play the God-awful music in the breaks!
Hey man, they suited up and are ready to defend you "ground pounder ass".
EvergreenFlash Air power ;)
Because they can easily get in trouble at all times. If they talk out of place it’s not uncommon to get dishonorably discharged
What this all boils down to is people that couldn't make it through pilot school, flunked out of pilot training, or don't qualify for other reasons.
@reverse thrust Well considering the fact I am an electrical engineer I could design a tank circuit.