New Megadeth guy Better than Marty Friedman?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2023
- New Megadeth super shredder Teemu Mantysaari could be BETTER than Marty Friedman. There I said it! In order to find out if this claim bears any truth, we'll be watching Teemu's first performance of Tornado Of Souls to see if he can hang with iconic legends of the past. Will he be able to to inject feeling, technical proficiency and showmanship into the performance? Will Dave Mustaine be impressed? You be the judge!
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Great Channel Mr. Shred!
The ultimate test is if he can WRITE a solo as great as Tornado of Souls.
Nope, the ultimate test is if he IMPROVISE great solos, not write them.
@@melchior2678 Go troll somewhere else. It's the same thing.
He already has tbh.
Check out his guest solos in Bloodshot Dawn - The Image Faded (the first solo after the tapping part), and his guest solo in Buried Realm - Asphyxiation's Lullaby. The solo (more like a collection of different guest solos + solos from the bands guitarists) from The Image Faded already regularly makes it to "Top Metal solos of all time" lists TOGETHER with Tornado Of Souls, despite being released in 2014.
He never got to write any solos in Wintersun because Jari wanted to have 100% control of the writing himself, even if find Teemu's solos to be more musical and follow the chords better than any solo Jari ever wrote for Wintersun.
@@Melodeath00 the comment wasn’t a knock on Teemu it was a response to the videos assertion. Anybody can learn a pre written work. Gotta check those out!
People can duplicate a solo. But not every one can write a killer solo.
He may be technically a bit better, but Marty was a trailblazer and innovator and has a unique style - that alone makes him immortal in the world of metal guitar
I'm a bit of a fanboi, but technically Teemu is supreme, but there are dozens of capable guitar players who can play the parts. It's not about playing, but composing!
I guess Marty is also 30 years older so Teemu is a product of a younger generation and is bound to be technically adept.
No, he is much better in terms of techique, but I do prefer Marty style and solos
I haven't seen this new guy much but Chris Broderick was probably Megadeth's best for technique. Marty was just better at coming up with stuff that sounded good.
@@TacTicMint You should listen and watch Kiko Loureiro solo stuff, you will see that he is the best in technique in Megadeth, and probably the best in the world no joke
Playing another man's solo is just playing another man's solo.
Coming up with your own memorable solo is legendary.
First night playing on stage with Lord Dave and nailing the Tornado solo while making it look easy. Level 666 grand shredder maximus. \m/
Angra (Kiko) and Wintersun (Teemu) are two of my favorite bands. You're telling me Megadeth pulled an amazing guitar from BOTH of them? For those of you not familiar with those bands I highly recommend "Temple of Shadows" from Angra and pretty much anything by Wintersun (the Sonic Studio stuff is amazing.) Marty is a legend, but both these guitarist have written and played more complex or melodic guitar parts.
Temple of Shadows is a masterpiece.
The Sonic Studio live is batshit crazy good.
Dave has swiped amazing guitar players from bands I like from Cacophony onwards. Hope Teemu doesn't leave Wintersun completely.
Will check these out! Thx!
So you clearly didn`t lsten to his solo albums. These dudes are not even close. Good but far from Marty.
I think its pointless to compare guitar players. The truth is Megadeth has had stone killers at lead guitar since its inception. Marty was incredible. So was Glen. So was Chris. So was Kiko. So is this gentleman. Dave has never had anything less than amazing guitar players in this band.
How cam you forget Poland???
@@1gbayfisher that wasn't my intention. My point is that they were all great players.
@@1gbayfisherChris Poland was the best. Marty Friedman said Polands parts were extremely hard to even get down; much less nail them. Chris can play anything and I mean ANYTHING! Don’t let the ‘old guy’ bit fool you for even one second. The advantage Chris has on his stuff is the mis-healed finger on his fret hand. All these new players have some good sweep tricks and picking stuff they do, but none of them can do Poland’s string bends like he can and it’s because of his finger that healed incorrectly. If you listen to Chris’ solos you can hear this unique bending that he does and not Friedman; not Broderick (overrated player) ; and not Kiko can do this bend correctly. I’ve seen Friedman and Broderick really try; but it’s the same as watching this New guy try doing the exotic scale bending that Friedman does, they just cannot replicate it! It’s good enough to pass inspection and go through with a show; but is it really doing either Chris or a Marty any REAL JUSTICE and the answer is absolutely NOT! I hope this new guy will actually sit down and really learn Marty and Chris’ parts like they deserve and those two guys have earned for them to be learned and not just ‘ Ok. Everybody seems happy with the take I’ve got on it, that’s good enough.’ No! SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND LEARN EVERYTHING NOTE FOR NOTE - NOTE BY NOTE - GET THE TIMING DOWN- GET THE BENDING DOWN UNTIL YOU PLAY THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND YOU NOR ANYONE ELSE CAN TELL WHO IS WHO! This I learned the basics I’ll improvise the rest Chris Broderick stuff was crap! Nobody has done Marty or Chris justice yet and it’s time that they do!! I’m tired of everybody just doing the bare minimum and getting the pass. Those two artists deserve better! If this new guy is so badass as everybody claims he is and keeps fanning his ego and saying he’s this new phenomenon, then learning how to play two old school players leads and fills note for note- bend for bend shouldn’t be a problem at all right? It should be easy to smoke those old players with all that “talent” lol NOTE FOR NOTE; BEND FOR BEND, TIMING SPOT ON. Well, let’s see it…
well said buddy!@@richardcurtis1912
Pitrelli’s Dread solo 🔥🔥🔥
If you like keychanges, try Ghost Love Score by Nightwish. It has 15 keychanges if I remember correctly but those are so smoothly done that most people miss about 13.
As a Finn I gotta say, this guy is on Brandon Ellis level technique- wise and stage presence-wise. These megadeth solos are just a walk in a park for him, trust me dude. 😀 He´s done his homework younger.
@AndasfasY Have you seen this video where Teemu and Brandon play together Stratovarius?😊
ruclips.net/video/EjdHoZhk4Wo/видео.html
He's great.
But still, i think that Brandon is a notch above in therms of expression, tone and personality, as a player.
Brandon has a very distinct touch, i can recognize his bending and vibrato from miles away. His sweep and economy picking is Jason Becker level.
To me, he's one of the best metal guitar players from his generation. And also, he can sing very well.
They are friends, too
@Apocalypse2031 Anything memorable? Wintersun's first album is THE melodeath album. Just because you don't listen to anything outside this old shit doesn't mean the world doesn't keep moving.
@Apocalypse2031 So what if it's more popular? I personally like Wintersun's music more than the music of any of the bands you listed including Megadeth. Why does it matter what in 20 years will be more popular? Truth is all those bands are past their prime and newer bands will now never be able to reach the highs that those bands achieved, not even those bands themselves can. But wintersun actually has something more and new to give musically while all those bands just keep on playing the same music they have been playing since the 80's.
Me, who has been listening to Wintersun for nearly two decades: "Wow that guy looks like Teemu"
Sees that is actually Teemu 😲😲
That must have been a suprising moment, I can imagine😄
I saw the news about Teemu going touring with Megadeth before Megadeths first gig with him, so I was prepared🤘
I had a lesson with him a few weeks back. He told me it’ll be his last lesson for a while because he got gig work. Then a few weeks after that I saw that he was going to play with Megadeth. My jaw dropped lol
@@chrisking6695 Dang that's cool. Might be hard to get lessons with him now that he is suddenly a lot more famous.
Yeah, I know Wintersun way more than Megadeth so this is like an opposite situation for most people.
@@LongLiveRockAnRoll I know both, I started to listening to Megadeth something like 34 years ago, but Wintersun is number 1 for me definitely😊
Marty is the best because he writed this 33 years ago, solos from rust in peace were ahead of their time and by far
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Will be seeing them this coming Friday. Kiko always brings it but im excited to see this Teemu guy shred
Teemu is a god at perfectly nailing extremely complex solos 100% of the time, he's truly a marvel! Just have to look at his Wintersun live performances
What guitar player,is better than another ?
All are great in their own way
Play it a lot of guitarrists can play. Other thing, very different, is CREATE a solo like this, so iconic.
It's hard to play "like" someone else and capture the feel... he absolutely nailed it
So Did Chris Broderick and Kiko nail it
@@djcflash they are both good but not as close as the original, but Teemu nailed it closest.
He’s good not better than Marty
Honestly, I think what made Marty so great is that his music era was the best Megadeth had. I think that Kiko was the best guitarist Megadeth has had though. Kiko is actually faster than Marty. Looking forward to hearing more of Teemu doing a rendition of 'shopping like a billionaire', but seriously, I hope Kiko comes back.
In today’s world, anyone can imitate. Fewer can perfectly master. Teemu has definitely mastered it, but truely, what it takes to be a legend is being the creator of a masterpiece. Marty will forever be legendary because of this. His work is immortalized
Good words, but this crybaby who made a high tech studio out of is drugshouse is the best on listing ad solo's never keeps in mind who wrote them and this guy will kick rocks after this tour. Megadeth can't be Megadeth anymore! Nick, Marty and junior made is so good that Dave could do his thing
I find it funny that now every WIntersun member besides Jari has joined other bands because they actually want to play music instead of post on social media all day about how they're DEFINITELY working on new music.
Wintersun fans know him already.❤️
Teemu is amazing! 😳
Fuck yeah he is. 👍👍🍻🍻
Teemu has been a world class guitarist with Wintersun for me. I'm a huge Wintersun fan with/without Teemu. I'm glad he's getting a different experience. I've seen his tutorials, his live shows when they toured. He's not Marty. He's Teemu and quite frankly, he can probably play whatever he wants.
Teemu is a beast and used to way more technical stuff like in Wintersun. Love his style!
I'm sure he'll elevate Megadeth to new heights 💪!
wintersun is a studio band and this guy is a youtube modern shredder..no soul no charisma no presence
@@naturalianoss Compared to Wintersun and Teemu you're just a shitty youtube comment.
@@naturalianossopinions from moms basement are always like that.
your moms ?
@@naturalianoss Someone's reeeaaaally jealous XD!!
The fact that people are only hearing about Teemu now is worrying. There is a little band called Wintersun who just happen to be one of the best ever. Go listen, now 😅
Attended Megadeth show in NJ last night. After the first song I knew I would need to check out his work with Wintersun.
That was amazing. This guy Teemu not only nailed the solo but he added his own pinch into it in a most tasteful manner. Adding your own pinch is nice but in such complex solos as ToS it is not easy to do, not without sounding a bit off, yet Teemu made it. He is on another level.
I think he sounds good but I still feel like Marty just has more emotion and feel in his playing.marty also has a very unique style in his playing that no one can copy imo
I would say that both Kiko and Teemu are able to play more complex solos than marty but the melodic control and phrasing marty has is something out of this world. Just listen to the Tears of an angel (marty's track), it will blow your mind.
I'd say Kiko has an amazing phrasing just as good as Marty, check his solo from Newborn Me and Time (both from Angra) and Du Monde from his latest solo album, or even Samba da Elisa from his Brazilian Jazz-Fusion record (my personal favorite)
Was there in Albuquerque in that pit! Sick show!!! Have my own recording or teemu doing the solo as well!!
Wouldn't hurt if you share it here on YT. 😁
Playing other people's music accurately is one thing, being able to write a great song or solo is very different.
I agree sir.
Ho Lee Shit. Dude nailed it. You can tell he played the album version over and over and over to get that performance just right. About the only thing he didn't nail note-perfect was the final little run, but it's not like he botched it either. It still sounded fantastic. It took Chris Broderick a lot longer to get it sounding right.
I just witnessed this dude live i plymouth in and was thoroughly pleasesd the dude can play i traveled over 8 hrs each way to see that concert and it was worth every cent and second of time spent
Ive watched Temmu live at a concert in Arizona live. He was awesome 🤘 he didn't even struggle changing cords as if he was with the band a long time....his second gig on the road ive witnessed him play excellent.
My girlfriend once gifted me online lessons with Teemu and it was a great experience. I feel he really reflected a lot on technique and musicality and is able to easily explain and show all the concepts very well. If anybody is considering taking lessons as well, I cannot recommend it enough.
Just saw him live last night and I couldn’t believe how effortlessly he nailed every thing
Hey, shred, I recommend reviewing some of Wintersun. Their guitar work is nothing short of amazing.
Yeah the Sonic Pump Studios videos
First of all, playing someone else's solos and writing are two different skills.
As far as who's better, at this level, there is no 'better.' It's all subjective. Marty and this new dude are both phenomenal. And great footage hear....yeah, always loved that bridge before the solo!
I have heard it, he freaking did an incredible version, just one little spot that wasn’t dead on note for note, real little, still an fantastic monster player.
this dude Teemu is a monster. what a technique
Is that the guy from Winter sun?
@@neogoats8738yes
@@neogoats8738 Yes he is. Very tecnical music and lot of changes.
hmmm, Loomis wil soon drop a new solo album. I wish there were more guitarists like him. Teemu has not reached that level yet.
@@MusicheadRick Teemu is very tecnical and very experienced guitarist. So what are you talking about?
I hope someone gathers former Magadeth guitarists to make a collaboration album
The way he plays everyones solos from all the era is just purely amazing. Of course there is lots of guitarist who are amazing these days, but still this guy is amazing
I guess Wintersun is no more? Teemu is or was with Wintersun, which you should check out if you haven't already. A good one is Sons of Winter and Stars. But. personal favorite of mine is Starchild! Check it!!
Plus Kai and Jukka are with Nightwish
Starchild is a banger. The first album lived in my Discman for months at a time.
@@LordBaktorIn a certain time of my life I listened to Starchild all day long for months.
Wintersun is still a thing. Jari just takes more than 15 years to finish a album so Teemu has to find some other gigs too.
@@jani14jani Well, Jari is a perfectionist but it always pays off with the scope of his music. The fact he can make the songs 100% by himself and leave the others on the backburners probably attributes to the other members moving on to other projects. Let Jari cook.
Would be great to see you interview Dave and maybe have a lil jam.
Pretty much nobody plays as clean as Teemu. He makes it look so easy that there most likely is some extraterrestrial activity involved.
Sounds just like the original CD with Japanese bends which nobody plays that way. Even took the Japanese bends out of the Remasterd CD which is why it sounds on F'ing point!
He did pretty solid.
I see Megadeth two days ago in Plymouth Indiana He did play it and it sounded great Megadeth was kicking ass 🤘🤘
Everyone speak about Teemu, but Shred's G-666-WapJuice-style is never gets old. Thank you, Shred, for your reactions!
Just seen him play last night and he was flawless!
Louisville, KY 2023 I saw them at Loader than life, when they came out I noticed this guy is not Kiko this is someone else... this guy is very very good.
We know mr. Shred is toying around, but if you don't really know Teemu, check out his playing on Winter Madness and that solo.
And the live performance of "Storm". The solo in that song is insane.
Martys note selection, picking, phrasing and style are totally unique, his playing is instantly recognizable in any context and with any sound. He´s a unicorn in a forrest of shredders with excellent technique, but without a truly unique voice on their instrument. "Better than Marty?" Not even close.
His feel is amazing, and chops. He is an incredible player. I dont think you can play it with "better" feel than what Marty recorded since Marty wrote and created that feel to begin with. Maybe he can execute live with more consistency and accuracy than previous guitarists..lets see. The big question on my mind next is, can he write his own solos with the feel and brilliance of Marty. Can he write songs? He passed the first test with flying colors, lets hope he is also a brilliant creative song writer.
No way! No one is better than Marty Friedman, not even Marty Friedman! 😎
It was awesome seeing Megadeth in 1995 in San Jose, CA 2 rows back in the pit, smashed like sardines. They were so tight back then and his voice was so awesome! Also saw them in like 1994 with Suicidal at Arco Arena in Sacramento. It was worth driving drunk 3 hours to get home....oops, really stupid idea, glad we have Uber nowadays.
There were only 2 noticeable errors on that solo AND not so big... and frankly, it sounds better than both Kiko and Marty because he plays the studio "uncut" version
I saw Megadeth last week and I was blown away how good Teemu is. His playing is pretty spot on to the original with not much extra embellishment. While he may be a better technical player to some degree, Marty's def no slouch, and his style, which is always evolving, sets him apart.
Marty's nuances are what makes that solo, that solo.
He’s pretty good man. I’m impressed. But would need a new “rust in peace” album with Temu.
Agree the big thing is feel. He didn’t play the solo perfectly, but you could really hear each note, it was really cleanly played and nothing was rushed. Each note got its full value, which is super hard in a lead like that.
This guy has the precision of Chris Broderick with the feel of Kiko. Now we just need to see if he can write
Marty has a completely unique approach to writing song structures and chord progressions .
Kiko is a Jazz Fusion star in South America well versed in Bossa Nova era music
The fact he can play in mega death as a " Jazz guy" shows he can handle playing metal .
It is also notable Vinny Caliouta of Chick Correa and Zappa is the ONLY fusion Jazz drummer to play metal ...and he was in megadeth
(cough) Gar Samuelson (cough)
Sure kiko can play jazz fusion and bossa nova, but to say he is a "jazz guy" makes no sense whatsoever. Most of the guy's jobs that made him famous are metal, playing in his band, Angra.
@alfredoneto452 this is true he is metal .Kiko is not Gulthrie Govan
He was flawless in the Atlantic City show! Amazing!!!!
Kiko might just have permanently replaced himself. This was a GOD LIKE Performance.
I want to see shred hit the bong
He smokes weed? I thought he only drinks WAP juice
Its definitely about the writing, & Marty has stood the test of time. So until we hear that something that rocks us to the core & still does 30 years later we can't assume. So I'll be back in 30 years to discuss lol
I love when you talk music theory
Sounds really great. Props to Timo.
Also kiko and obviously Marty the man who wrote the lick.
Was talking just the other day about Marty...
May be considered the GOAT.
Also enjoyed Drover days...
That one night quite possibly the best DVD ever.
Also like to mention Chris Poland
Rock on.
Hearing him play the solo isn’t enough to get me excited about him, but I’m gonna go check out Wintersun and see what I think of him after that.
"The Feel" = being in the pocket with the "live energy."
It doesn't matter if you can play it perfectly. I have seen 15 year old kids play Marty`s solos note for note.
What matters is that no one as even come close to writing something as near as good as he did.
And no one will because Megadeth is no longer that band and the times are different and Mustaine is a different person than he was back then. We should just be glad that we got two jewels with the best line up Megadeth ever had.
Can Marty play a wintersun guitarsolo 😁
Probably. Did you ever listen to Cacophony? Or any of his work on Dragon's Kiss?
That is the best cover version of that solo I have heard for sure!
Ok look, IDK this new Megadeth guitarist at all! But I've been listening to Rust In Peace since like 1992 when I was 12 years old and cds were kinda brand new..... I'm going to make a bold statement here and say that under that pressure, playing live in front of how-many people, he played the (ultimate solo) 100% true to the album!!! I'm going to say after hearing him once that he's as good as Marty...
One thing that I've noticed about all of the great metal solo guitarist. They have this buildup of energy before exploding. And they leave it all on the stage. They make you feel triumphant . Every part of the lead is a battle . Culminating in a victory over the powerful opposing forces of the world . Destroying the enemy with your last ounce of energy you can muster.
He did great; but he did improvise a little bit on the last section. But did great yeah!
You gotta count that he probably has been practicing this a lot and have rehearsed the whole show with the band a few times, before the first gig, so, it's not like he's raw there.
Also, he's an experienced player on stage, many albums and tours with Wintersun, so, he has the stage experience needed to just go there and perform.
So long, Kiko. This dude, Teemu, is finally a decent replacement for Marty. As for Marty - he's unique MF (Marty Friedman) player and a composer of all times. I doubt Megadeth would be Megadeth we know now without Marty Friedman.
Anyway, Teemu guy is finally a guitarist Megadeth deserved. I never liked Kiko Loureiro, with his nonchalant approach, like changing damn solos. Don't know if you heard that, but Teemu played the original, record version of solo. Marty was changing it a little bit later on. It's at the beginning.
Imagine having all eyes on ears on you and then Killing it like Teemu did???
I want to give a huge shoutout to the newest lead guitarist of Megadeth, he is really talented and amazing player. He played the TOS’s solo so well that when I was hearing it for the first time it felt like Marty’s version, even though he was playing the solo so well but to be honest, no matter how good, talented or technically sounded a guitarist maybe but Tornado of Souls solo was, is and will always be the most important & insanely well composed solo ever played in the history of world heavy metal music. Period!
Maybe from a technical standpoint but compared to the raw chemistry that line up had there's no comparison 🤘🤘
Hope Kiko's family will be ok
7:30. Shred you crack me up dude.
Im Old School and think Marty's one of the Best ,but this guy is very impressive.👍
If he creates a solo like tornado, we can start talking.
I’ve seen hundreds of players cover the ToS solo. And in most cases, they forget the most important thing about the solo- feeling. Intent. They want to inject their own style whilst covering the solo. In this case, on stage with the band themselves, this player does it Justice. Does he play the solo better than Marty Friedman? Absolutely not. He’s hitting the same notes. Yet with His intent. The person who created the musicality to fit the backing song has a completely different intent. Their intent was not to hit the notes, per se. It was to accompany the music in a manner that adds to the song in a positive way. His bends are not as expressive as Marty’s, but his note count is just as frenetic. A good replacement for Kiko, and he honors the creator of this great solo.
Kiko was a great fit so it's disappointing to see him go.
One thing is being able to reproduce something. However, Marty composed this masterpiece, so yes, Marry wins 🤘🤘😎
Holy shit is right… 😅… damn… that boy can PLAY!
Let those hired deth's who came after Friedman all together compose one solo in the rank of Tornado of Souls solo. How many years would they take?
Keiko better watch out,this dude is badass,reminds me of old Megadeth,played it for a few days he's wicked
Whoever becomes the lead guitarist for Megadeth won't last long. Remember the proverb "Never outshines the Master". The Master here is dave Mustain.
Shred i got my theory, maybe Kiko is angry and went out of the band bc they are not playing any of the songs of the new album live? after all i think he wants to try his new solos and stuff.. what ya think?
Not true. They are playing “we’ll be back” off the new release and “dystopia” prior release
WAP Juice 🤣🤣🤣
That’s an awesome shirt
Kiko played the solo just as well as Teemu. For that matter, there are people all over the internet who can pound out the solo perfectly from a technical standpoint. Nevertheless, props always goes to the guy (Marty) who wrote it to begin with. When you write it you play it with a certain feel that is never 100% replicated the same way by others. Same thing with Eddie Van Halen and his songs and sound.
Nailed every note plus the feel.... and he did it with feel.
I got the chance to see him live a couple of days ago (9-16 CT), he was absolutely incredible with everything he played “Dread and the Fugitive Mind” blew me away
Thats absolutely one of my favorite Megadeth songs and Martys solos..his tone and feel and just amazing playing just does it for me..of course I am 57 and grew up listening to all the awesome guitarists..and I feel like thats the best time and type of music of all time. this new guy did a good job though.
@@rosskrause3926 I’m pretty sure Pitrelli did the solo on Dread, but yeah only 22 so I wish I could’ve seen these guys back in the day
@@t_slothrop8385Yes I believe you are right..
he should compose solos with quarter notes which can be only accomplished with perfect bends with accurate timing. also should use japanese and chinese mods. also should use multiple mods in solos with slight transitions. I can play tornado of souls solo but I do not have knowledge and perfect feeling to compose %10 of it.
if he can pull off the wintersun stuff, he can pull off the Mega D
Indeed, IMO (melodeth, powermetal, folkmetal etc). is harder to pull off than trash metal. And I think for example Time1 album has elements from neoclassical metal and symphonic metal too. Wintersun can`t be put to just one or two genre, it has elements of so many. Maybe Wintersun could just be called "epic metal"😊
If we think for example WIntersun`s live Sonic pump studio sessions. There can be seen for example, how important role right timing has in Wintersun. Every note and sound has to be in place just at the right moment. Jari would not have accepted it otherwise.
Dont forgot of Wintersun 🤟🤟🤟
I don't believe that Niko is a better player than Marty Friedman because Nico didn't write any of the Megadeth material Marty Friedman wrote all the leads so as a musician I think Marty Friedman being able to write everything he did for Megadeth instead of somebody that might not know how to read music and copy it note for note but in the end there ain't nobody better than Marty Friedman I think the freedom the power and the knowledge and wisdom that Marty Friedman has his pretty powerful and overwhelming in the end he's he's megadeth's lead guitar player bar none and nobody can ever take his place unless they write what he did unless Nico can write a an album with Megadeth and write all the material then I might think of him in a higher place but until that happens Marty Friedman is the King of the Hill and nobody touch Marty Friedman
i laughed, i cried. great video