Bonjour , la coque asymétrique offre une portance sans traînée supplémentaire bravo (cf HC 14 et 16) votre démonstration et accastillage pour virement de bord en abattant même par force 6 est une merveille de sécurité et efficacité ; alors qu un virement vent debout pour un multi léger avec la vague du vent est impossible sans faire marche arrière (inversion des safrans et masquer la GV) Merci pour le partage ❤Xian
I bookmarked this video for reference later on. I had a DUH! moment, why didn't I think about that?? I have never been comfortable with the traditional method of shunting. I really feel good about your method. so simple!! thanks for sharing your idea. I subscribed.
Very nice solution! To improve instead of two loop, put a lever on the mast with the haylard attach. When the lever is up the haylard is loose enought for shunting when the lever is down haylard is fully raised. Search for Highfield lever or Gilles lever. They use to have this system on old gaffer sailboat for their side running backstay tension system.
We just fitted a similar set up to My sons 10m proa after seeing this video & others. A great success & makes the rig practical & workable. 10m of track & ball cars is not cheap though!
Very quick and efficient! Sure would want to keep that track well-lubricated. Not sure what would work under wet conditions. If it were dry, maybe graphite powder? Looks like you're got it figured out, though. Nice job!
Pacific proa hull design is different from a typical single hull or multihull sailboat. The bow depends on which direction you want to go. Not even sure tacking would work lol. Little bit complicated to explain in a comment but once you start researching it you'll understand. Really fascinating stuff.
Hallo, tacking is ok, but shunting is the traditional maneuver for a pacific proa. I first want to learn the original method of proasailing and then adapt it for myself and my conditions.
I think you can increase that infinitely. But then you would need winches and pulleys. I think the question is up to what size you can raise up a capsized proa again.
Hello, in thise video you can see a proa that Klaus Deppermann built in the 1980s. I built my proa after this one. I don't have any specific plans. But i gave the rough dimensions of Klaus proa in video #9. In my video #20 I published the rough dimensions of my proa and also 2 other sources where you can get more detailed information.
@@fjordproa6510, thank you - including for the demonstrations both on land and on the water. Would a wider hull not be as efficient in the waves and wind?
@@hntrains2 Actually, I think that a narrow hull is faster. As long as you drive through the water and dont glide on it. Which is the case with multihull boats (Displacement hull). But of course, one has to make compromises to achieve enough volume, for a given length
That is the demonstration of shunting I have seen . Thanks.
Bonjour , la coque asymétrique offre une portance sans traînée supplémentaire bravo (cf HC 14 et 16) votre démonstration et accastillage pour virement de bord en abattant même par force 6 est une merveille de sécurité et efficacité ; alors qu un virement vent debout pour un multi léger avec la vague du vent est impossible sans faire marche arrière (inversion des safrans et masquer la GV) Merci pour le partage ❤Xian
Simple yet elegant.
Thanks for sharing mate!
I bookmarked this video for reference later on. I had a DUH! moment, why didn't I think about that?? I have never been comfortable with the traditional method of shunting. I really feel good about your method. so simple!! thanks for sharing your idea. I subscribed.
Great easy to follow thank you I have been struggling to get my crab claw rig to shunt without too much fuss and this helps tremendously :)
Very nice solution! To improve instead of two loop, put a lever on the mast with the haylard attach. When the lever is up the haylard is loose enought for shunting when the lever is down haylard is fully raised. Search for Highfield lever or Gilles lever. They use to have this system on old gaffer sailboat for their side running backstay tension system.
Proven to work from the test in the water. Good stuff.
We just fitted a similar set up to My sons 10m proa after seeing this video & others. A great success & makes the rig practical & workable. 10m of track & ball cars is not cheap though!
Nice to hear that it worked for you too.
Are there videos of the 10 meter proa?
Best regards
Very quick and efficient! Sure would want to keep that track well-lubricated. Not sure what would work under wet conditions. If it were dry, maybe graphite powder? Looks like you're got it figured out, though. Nice job!
Hello, I'm using a traveler systems from Harken
It doesn't need to be lubricated and runs wet even better.
Of course, it's not cheap.
I estimate that the system is 25% of the material price for the Proa.
Pacific proa hull design is different from a typical single hull or multihull sailboat. The bow depends on which direction you want to go. Not even sure tacking would work lol. Little bit complicated to explain in a comment but once you start researching it you'll understand. Really fascinating stuff.
Great! Congrat's!
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That is a great solution to tacking, but what's wrong with tacking?
Hallo,
tacking is ok,
but shunting is the traditional maneuver for a pacific proa.
I first want to learn the original method of proasailing and then adapt it for myself and my conditions.
Bravo!
How far do you think this can be scaled up?
I think you can increase that infinitely.
But then you would need winches and pulleys.
I think the question is up to what size you can raise up a capsized proa again.
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I'd like what you boat looks like and would like to build one. Do you have plans available and or a build video?
Hello, in thise video you can see a proa that Klaus Deppermann built in the 1980s.
I built my proa after this one.
I don't have any specific plans.
But i gave the rough dimensions of Klaus proa in video #9.
In my video #20 I published the rough dimensions of my proa and
also 2 other sources where you can get more detailed information.
@@fjordproa6510 OK thank you. Are they easy to steer and how long is the boat? I assume that the yama is about 1/3 rd of the length of the main hull.
Similar to Marshall Islands canoe or walap.
Is this your own build?
No, this boat was designed and built by Klaus Deppermann.
I described it in video #9.
The other proa from my other videos is designed and built by me.
@@fjordproa6510, thank you - including for the demonstrations both on land and on the water.
Would a wider hull not be as efficient in the waves and wind?
@@hntrains2 Actually, I think that a narrow hull is faster. As long as you drive through the water and dont glide on it. Which is the case with multihull boats (Displacement hull). But of course, one has to make compromises to achieve enough volume, for a given length