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I don't get why some consider animation to be so "childish." When some live-action stuff is even worse in that field, as seen in this movie
Doug Walker said that it's basically a mindset nowadays to think that animation is childish, since animation was mostly used for G-rated movies back in the day
@@drakeware655 If some people really think that; we should show them stuff like Gravity Falls, Samurai Jack, The Last Airbender or even Voltron
@@sadlobster1 A lot of people thought that back in the day, since that's the rating movies involving only animation would come out as. And in regards to the shows you listed, in the order you've listed them; great show, never seen it, just started watching that, and which version?
@@drakeware655 In terms of Voltron, I'm referring to Legendary Defender. The classic 80's version was great and the CG show had some great stuff (except for that robot, Amalgumus.)
But Legendary Defender REALLY embodies itself as a show both kids AND adults will love
@@sadlobster1 Ah. Never seen either version of Voltron, so I know nothing of what you're talking about
As the old proverb says “Don’t fix what isn’t broken”.
It's "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I can understand Jungle book live action remake but rest
Skyrogue19
Yep. For example, Heather's mike? That's something that's broken and needs to be fixed. The original Beauty and the Beast? Why would anyone want to change that!?
"Michael Jackson is what happens when you keep fixing it until its broke." - Richard Jeni
But I loved the live-action Beauty and the Beast. I thought that it improved the story without straying to far from the source. I still like the original, but is it a crime to also like this, as well as their other live-action remakes?
Really wanted Ben to be here since he defends this movie so much
Watson suffered from the same thing everyone in Twilight suffered from. Bad direction.
Like have you seen Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart rag on Twilight. They have some genuine charm. Hell, they got actual Natives and people of Native descent to play the Natives in film. Bad directing can make every single ounce of charm a film could have evaporate.
Not to mention that Robert and Kristen have done good work outside of that franchise.
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits don't forget Dan Stevens!
Also, it takes more than being a princess, to be a Disney princess. Disney has extreme and strict rules that allow a character to become a Disney princess.
And yet, Mulan got labeled more of a Disney Princess than someone like Kida from Atlantis.
@@sebastianemond5313cause she basically became God for a moment.
@@charliecomer6001 (From Groundhog Day)
"Not *the* God, but *a* God."
But still more a princess than Mulan.
During belle's intro song, I swore I heard the digitizing of her voice in the song.
You can hear it in every single piece, even in the ones with people who can actually sing, Emma's is just more obvious because she can't sing.
Thank you guys for discussing what’s happening at Channel Awesome. I’m glad to hear what your thoughts are on it, and handling it in a respectful and reasonable way.
Daniel Clark I’ve been saying that to myself through this whole situation. I’ll still watch his stuff, but I don’t think I’ll ever work for him.
Daniel Clark yeah, forgot to factor him into the equation, but all I wanted was to state that I’m still a fan of the NC regardless of whether or not the channel is Awesome or Awful.
Daniel Clark while usually the case a few I met in the past met and exceeded expectations, even better people in person. But it's always good to keep that in mind that usually your heroes won't be who you think they are in person.
Is it just me... or does it look like Heather has no legs
The Topaz Gamer It says this comment is 2 days old when i just got a notification that this was uploaded.
How?
Deadly Vanitas: Patron obviously.
Book Lover he's from the future
...what has been seen
Maybe she's like a turtle and can just retract her legs inside her body.
JLongbone made one of the best analysis of this movie ever, she nails every single reason why it sucks (Emma Watson being a bad actress, a bad singer and having way too much control, the inconsistent and insincere agenda-pushing, the unecessary changes to the script, the unecessary additions to the script, the ugly CGI, the excess autotunning, the crappy new songs, the crappy arrangements done to the old songs, the bad casting...)
I mean, with the huge amount of people Doug works with and interacts with on a regular bases I don't seem him being that bad behind the camera, he isn't a multimillionaire movie star where you need him in your movies or promotions, he is of moderate internet fame and wouldn't last if he pushed people away from some behind the camera behavior.
It's not Doug, it's Lindsay, she has burned every single bridge, and convinced her simps to do the same, she is a destructive and petty person who lies all the time.
@@nothanks7063
Somehow I doubt she would be able to convince nearly every other member of the website to pack up and sever all ties with their employer and friends just because. When near EVERYONE close to Doug and the management of Channel Awesome agrees to the story being put forth by the former members, it's much harder to believe that it's all just from one person and they convinced everyone else to go with it.
Hell, you act like Lindsay was the one who started all this when she wasn't, Obscurus Lupa was.
@@Jason_Ultimate Women threatening to cry sexism in the 2010s can and will get away with anything, and we know for a fact that exactly how Lindsay is.
@@nothanks7063
...believe it or not, if it were a max of 3 fairly popular female creators going against a dozen or more creators who are all just as if not more popular, they wouldn't magically win. Sexism allegations a majority of the time never make it past vague internet rumors to reach the mythical cancel culture summits. Including the ones that should be taken seriously.
The whole comtrovercy came from a few pathetic grifters from the channel. They made their name and career from the channel and then tried trashing them when they wemt solo. Unfortunately stupid people like Sarah are convinced by these losers
Is it just me or does this video seem brighter then normal?
Bredt Warden it's definitely brighter
I concur. I mean, dear Jesus Nate, turn down the brightness!
It's Micah's holy glow.
After watching the original animated film. I can safely say that while the remake "played it safe" by doing the exact type of scenes. There were many, MANY things the remake lacked.
1. Belle wasn't seen as strange JUST for her love of reading. It was also her father's eccentric nature and inventions that helped fuel the fire.
2. The musical numbers didn't have the same whimsy or vocal skills the original had, especially Tale as Old as Time
3. While I warmly accept and praise the LGBTQ and all positive references the media makes toward them. I never saw LaFou as being "gay for Gaston," in the original. He just came across as an overeager fan.
Kind of like that kid kid with the Troll hair in Oblivion. After you become the Grand Champion of the arena.
4. While I LOVE Dan Stevens as an actor. Ever since I learned his name from Downton Abbey. His portrayal of The Beast lacked the sort of sympathy and strength of character the original had.
Lastly, the story in the beginning was done so much better in the original. A splendid use of "show and tell" through the stain glass window displays. While in the remake, it all just felt out of place
I don't mind that the bit with Belle's father wasn't song well.... it actually fits well. It's a private moment voiced out in a soft tune.
But this movie.... they should have made it more of a mix of a musical, an opera and a regular-formated movie. They need a ton of bodymovement and bodylanguage in the movie - just like in the older animated version. You get both the voice, the body language, the whole 'almost a dance' while they sing! But no, we just get walking people, walking or riding around.
Apparently Disney is allergic to effort now.
*Bob Iger blowing his nose on dollar bills*
Nate I know it's a nice thing to be able to understand lyrics in a song but it's not always necessary. Remember when gangnam style was a thing? People didn't know most of the lyrics but it was still popular. Cannibal corpse lyrics are more like horror stories usually about someone getting chopped up or something along those lines. It's not too important that you understand them as long as you enjoy the music.
Yes! I loved this review of his. I hope you check out his other live-action reviews. But you’re probably gonna hate his Jungle Book review. May I suggest his Old vs New of Cinderella?
Yeah. His Jungle Book review was terrible.
If you liked the movie, sure. I still enjoyed the review, but if you liked the movie a lot I'd understand why you wouldn't.
+ElliNyan More power to you, but I thought his points were mostly all fundamentally flawed and he came across so objective as if he spoke the truth.
*+Ryan R. As long as I've watched the channel, I'm pretty sure most if not all his reviews are like that. His character is named NOSTALGIA Critic and Doug never claimed or portrayed him to be objective.*
His views are almost always to an extent influenced by nostalgic bias and that's the point. It's the physical personification of that stereotypical arrogant, strongly opinionated person many have met at least once irl.
And let's be honest, almost nobody is innocent in that when it comes to how invested they are in their subjectivity. It happens to the best of us, Doug merely owns it through this exaggerated, almost cartoonish persona.
It's a caricature that acts as an outlet for his more passionate side in the name of entertainment. I often disagree with his points as well but can usually at least understand where he's coming from and appreciate his work ethic.
I've even thought about familiar films in new ways. Lastly, while they're not experts or final authorities on cinema, it should be noted that Doug & Rob went through film school and have seen far more movies than the casual viewer.
Again, that doesn't make his opinion superior or elevate it to fact. But it does make his opinion more informed than, say, someone like me who doesn't have time to watch nearly as many films on a day-to-day average.
*When you go through enough movies regularly (especially for purposes of a job such as that of a critic), your views & standards are inevitably influenced by the sheer amount of cliches, flaws, and general patterns.*
"I don't know jack about Twilight"
Micah, you friggin' rule 🤘
22:26 - 22:31 🎵THE HIIIIILLS ARE ALLIIIIIVE!
With auto tuning!🎵
Okay, let's do the math here. They must find true love by his 21st birthday. Last petal has drop so he is 21. 10 years they've been rusting, needing so much more than dusting. The Beast was 11 when he was transformed. He was a kid. What happened to his parents?
They changed that part of the story in the remake, but idk about the original.
It's hard to hear heather. Is something wrong with the mic?
Deadly Vanitas maybe
They never check their mics on this show.
there's always something wrong with at least one of the mics
Tamakar They once said that they check when they first start recording, but not really in between videos.
Damn Gremlins
I’m gonna be honest, when I saw Beauty and the Beast (2017), I wanted to chuck my laptop across the room. I went and listened to the animated songs whenever the remake finished theirs.
Heather: “It’s like a Song if you took the Music Away.”
Micah: “Then it would be...A Poem.”
Me: “Wow, Micah. That was...Cute? 🤨How’d he...Whoa...”
"I must be in Chicago!"
"Or Montana."
"Or Tennessee."
Me: "or Richmond!"
Also Heather shouldn’t be dogging Doug if she doesn’t know him and has never met him
I don't think they should be remaking the lion king in live action it's fine the way it is it has memorable scenes memorable characters and songs that I'm pretty sure everyone were humming or singing after its release like no one is gonna remember anything from a live action remake hell I didn't even remember a scene from the live action jungle book it was good but I still remember stuff from the animated version sorry but I don't think the lion king should be remade in live action
SJ RANKS dude, punctuation
Apparently the "Be Prepared" song isn't going to be included in the remake, which while the song does admittedly bear similarities to the Third Reich, was a major part of the original movie!
In any case, I agree with you, I'm not looking forward to the live action remake.
Troy Orr I’m upset there’s no be prepared it’s my #1 favourite song in the lion king song
Troy Orr okay now I'm vexed
I don't understand why they feel the need to remake the movies that pretty much everyone agrees are near perfection to begin with. Movies I'd expect them to remake would be the ones that are good-ish, but have alot of problems/inconsistencies. Movies like Hercules, Hunchback and the Little Mermaid being examples of movies they could do that with.
Heather shouldn’t pride herself on seeing so many Disney films if she hasn’t seen any Disney films.
Can you please react to nostalgia critic rocky and Bullwinkle?
Yes
Film Brain is gone now! At least Brad's staying on the site.
REJ Why?
Is this actually true?
You guys should react to his reviews of Thomas and the Magic Railroad, James and the Giant Peach (though you may need to watch his Bart’s Nightmare LP before watching that one) and the Jaws sequels
Jack Smith SPARKLE SPARKLE SPARKLE
Thatguyontheinternet
Fuck yea sparkle sparkle sparkle!
SPARKLE SPARKLE SPARKLE FTW
Thatguyontheinternet Woo! Haha
But I don't like how Nostalgia Critic judges the whole Thomas franchise before even watching the show, which I think he still hasn't done.
How come u didn't put on screen with Tamara with the vampire fangs
Jareth The Goblin King He forgot to display it on screen.
From what it's come to light with Channel Awesome it's seems that the Walkers are just incompetent and not good at handling big projects so they are just unintentionally bad to work with since they lack self awareness on many of their flaws and if the person they are working with isn't able to conform to them it makes for a bad experience.
Which is concurrent with all the accounts coming from CA alumni, the real problem with Channel Awesome is the person working behind the scenes Mike Michaud a manipulative asshole that is the CEO of Channel Awesome and owns the Nostalgia Critic character, he got rights of everything Doug built due to him and Rob not wanting to be responsible for the business side of things so they left it in the hands of someone who at the time was a trusted friend of the siblings and who now has them on a leash.
CA alumni blame Doug for not doing anything and while slightly justified the thing is that Doug really can't do much or else he loses the legal right to do his show which is his livelihood and if he tried to do anything he could lose everything and legally he would be in the wrong due the Michaud legally owning it all.
Doug has a hell of a lot to lose if he goes against Michaud unlike most of the Alumni who had independent channels on top of working with Channel Awesome so if shit went south they could just rebuild on their own personal channels.
And I hate to say it but I feel like some of the CA alumni are trying to pin everything on Doug and Rob because they're bitter over not getting as much exposure as he did (which is entirely understandable but hey if not a lot of people want to watch your content then that's your problem, not theirs), since none of them ever got very close to how many views the NC got. Save for maybe Angry Joe.
Brian Rodriguez that doesn't justify doug turning a blind eye to a fucked up situation. He's one of the owners of the site, and so it was HIS responsibility to fixing those problems, regardless of the consequences.
He doesn't own the site though. That's Mike Michaud.
And yeah, I should've said this before, but it doesn't let Doug and Rob fully off the hook.
I really don't think Doug would just toss all of his goodwill away, especially from his friends for any light reason. Something's preventing him from speaking out. People act like Doug is the CEO of channel awesome or something, when in reality he isn't.
TheMadMadman mike machaud, doug walker, and rob walker were all the main people behind thatguywiththeglasses. Regardless of the consequences, its on DOUG and ROB as well for not speaking out, and letting the shit mike did potentially ruin MANY other careers on the site. they knew what he was doing (and even participated in some ways at times), but let it keep going without saying a word. That's not acceptable in any way, and they're getting as much shit as they should for it imo. All three are.
Do you not get that Michaud owns the NC character? Doug and Rob may have a lot of sway, but they aren't the be all end all at the site. That's Michaud. Doug seems incompetent and ungraceful, but that doesn't mean everything is his fault. Doug and Rob can't just say "stop it Michaud!" and have everything stop. You tell me if you can go up to your boss and mouth off to him, no matter how egregious a person he/she is. You'd assuredly be fired. Michaud is Doug and Rob's boss. This is Channel Awesome we're talking about, not Thatguywiththeglasses. Two different beasts.
Wait i just notice,where is ben,is he busy with life at the time there?
Could you guys react to the Unusual Suspect's Star Wars reviews?
Alex Ramos
YES!!! His editing skills are ON POINT! They should also consider checking out the Unusual Suspect’s reviews of the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films!
Oh please do that
@@jcrews8582 yes I love his reviews
Sigh, if they directed it like a musical, dub over singers instead of using auto tune, and expanded on some points instead of others it would have made a huge difference.
Angel Barrera how about hiring actors that can actually sing
This just makes me want to watch the original.
They could've slipped in Beast's name which is Adam! Like, a locket or something.
Now i didn't know anything about McDonald(wardobe) when i first saw this review and as soon as i heard the climb every mountain i literally spat out my water.
When nc showed tina from Bob's burgers, i lost it 😂😂😂😂
Hey guys, I don’t wanna brag, but you guys should fix your mic issues cause Heather’s mic was off.
Herohunter 64 I hit a switch on accident at some point.
did anybody else have issues hearing heather near the beginning?
They never check their mics on this show.
This is made by the same director who made the last 2 twilight movies.
That makes a lot of sense since those were the most nonsensical out of all of them
Has she seen Atlantis the lost empire. Also what the Hell is up with her micro phone lately. It sounds like the Mic isn't turned on.
WHERE DOES THE SOUL OF A CANDLESTICK GO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
never go by what Obscurus Lupa says. she's the one who got Spoony fired. she took Phelous with her when she left the site. she's known for starting crap
Spoony got himself fired
Spoony apologized for that. it wasn't even Lupa he was talking to. she didn't let it go
Alice Delgado There was more then just the one issue. Look up Down the Rabbit Hole
...i’m not really sure how Nate got “scathing” out of the State of the Wall. Linkara expresses displeasure, certainly, but mostly at himself for not being able to help more during his time on the crew. He really wasn’t that harsh towards the Walkers, or anyone other than himself and, to a certain degree, Michaud. i almost wish he had been, since until his write-up, i’d have never known.
I wonder if any of these guys read the Not so Awesome document yet
I hope you guys do a video discussing what’s been going on at Channel Awesome. Recent news about their management practices has made me question my support of their work. And I think you guys should definitely take some time to read what people have been saying about the Walker brothers and their partner Mike Michaud. Linkara, Todd in the Shadows, and Renegade Cut have all left channel Awesome just this past month. Please give some time to discuss this as it is important.
2 hour movie, and somehow they show less than the original. Skipping over emotional scenes and focusing on non important shit. Those extra minutes could’ve been used so much better. Maybe show a bit more of Beast’ daily life since he usually disappears until Belle has to interact with him. Or maybe show the father twisting him and the servants having to choose between helping him and risking death from the king, and staying away. Lengthening the movie had so much potential, but they waste it.
To quote Ethel Merman "Ether you got, or you anat. And all the singing lessons in the world isn't gonna help you if you anat got it."
And since you guys brought up twilight...here's a joke that gives nightmares to picture...."50 Shades of Twilight." First time i heard that joke title I shouted Oh God Why?
Hate to inform you of this ... not really a joke. 50 Shades of Grey was originally a Twilight fanfic.
I'm not kidding.
E.L James, the 50 shades author, wrote a twilight fanfiction, which she later rewrote as a story with original characters (swapping Edward and Bella with Christian Grey and Ana) and that was eventually developed into 50 Shades.
not to sound rude but you have to check all mics before you record, i can not hear her at all, its not even on
21:05 fun fact here the original beauty and the beast was published in a women’s magazine, in the 1700s
Official! Watch that Woody Woodpecker movie review! I want to se Nate's reaction to it; I want to see him throw the remote control at the little monster!
Is there something wrong with the microphones? It is difficult to hear Heather.
These movies are for people who love DIsney movies but don't want to feel like pedophiles for liking disney movies
what´s wrong with the camera
Mica in the middle.
JW dyer ...Nate on the left?
THANKYOU 14:31"
Don't forget Alice in Wonderland and Maleficent.
Heather hasn’t seen Aladdin, which is one of the greats. I am not upset, but I am curious as to why.
34:54 Right?
Did anyone get this notification before seeing the video? I just notice that it hasn't notify me yet and I'm actually checking the video out right now.
How come the beginning of the review wasn’t shown?
they arent fans of singing
Nate didn’t show it on accident
Maybe to avoid copyright? Don't know.
As a Montanan, I should be insulted, but that's true.
Missouri does the weather change all the time
21:22 Love it and the accompanying laugh!
53:50
Oh, so Heather’s Guilty Pleasure is Red Sonja?
Yay!
yea i like to Heather to see all the MCU Movies
Is it just me or is there an oversaturation of lighting?
seriously guys i love the content but you need really re think your audio because its to quiet
The dress in the movie is horrible
Funny how she mentions this movie is like Twilight; since it's directed by the same guy.
Ben should've been there
I admit I enjoyed the remake (or at least some parts), but the original will always be the best.
Out of curiosity, is there a cartoon put to animation done right? NC said Rocky and Bullwinkle, but I can't think of a single one
Do NC jungle book.
That review was god awful.
I liked that review
a lot of the things NC said there made no sense or were wrong, was one of his worst reviews. its up there with treasure planet and aristocats
Nathaniel Claw
Are you saying his review is up there with his take on Treasure Planet and Aristocats?
J Crews
Im saying it is as nonsense and dumb as treasure planet and aristocats reviews. It feels like he didnt watch any of these movies, he talks like he didnt understands the plot, for someone as smart as Doug it feels like he just got lazy or has some personal vendetta against the movies. Just look at the aristocats review, he got the plot totally wrong! Almost like he watched the movie once 10 years before and didnt bother to watch again to give a good review
37:59
Why isn't the video on screen from 11:17-14:29?
In all fairness the castle staff would have zero power to stop the king from making his son jerk, they would have been told not to interfere or even lose their job. Punishing them was overkill.
I WAS JUST ABOUT TOO SAY THE EAST TENNESSEE THING
I LIVE THERE LMAO
For god sake did no one notice the hunchback of notre dom reference 19:35
I'm so on board with Micah's Darth Hermione idea.
Only people positive about this movie...is that it adds little bits to the original story..including the enchantress and beasts past....and stuff....if you wrote a fan fiction of the original without change,but added those bits and pieces of world building,props to you.
Weirdly Hela is a Disney Princess.
While I personally enjoyed this version of Beauty and the Beast, I have to admit as well, it wasn’t perfect by a long shot. There were several points that while were interesting, didn’t really go anywhere (in particular Agatha being the Enchantress REALLY pissed me off) and while the singing doesn’t match up with the original. On the other hand, I do enjoy the art style (dark fantasy meets Baroque) several elements of the story, particularly the ones that came from the original tale, a few plot threads from the old film being tied up, and while the film couldn’t match with the original, it tried its damnest to do it anyway! If you are quite forgiving about Disney remakes, I’d reccomend it
21:22
I want to see Elena and Ben watch this too... How would they take it?
Uhh...I think Heather’s mic was off for this video...just sayin’.
Just a suggestion but have you ever considered looking at Doug Walker's Disneycember reviews?
Tamara makes a beautiful Belle in that review.
It’s live action so it probably is hard to replicate from the animated version
The reason the live action version of the beast is mean for the sake of being mean is because he's bitter after years of being a beast and has somewhat accepted that he might end up stuck as a beast forever. He is also a spoiled royal who's been raised to believe he's better than everyone.
So did the original, but that one was smart enough to at least try a be polite
The Greatest Showman is an awesome movie!!
Please do react to How deadly is super mario's bob-ombs by game theory.
11:18
Shame u cant hear heather
Has Heather seen Tim Burton's Frankenweenie? Not the original Disney short he made but the stop-motion animated Disney movie he made.
Tommy Diaz-Millan yes
I tend to not like live action versions of animated stuff, rather it's cartoons or anime. Almost always tend to not be that good in my opinion. Also either Heather is talking really quiet or her mic just isn't working because I can't hear her at all which is unfortunate.
Sorry Martin Sheen has dibs on the West Wing...think about it. lol
Where's the Batman forever review?
Juan Esteban Chavez 2 days ago
No the NC one