Replacing Fuel Pump Without Dropping the Tank. Fuel pump replacement in 3rd gen Fbody.
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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The old fuel pumps on the engine were best! LOL
Sure were a lot easy to get to. Two bolts... But they never quit because were mecanical... Thanks for the comment. it really helps the chanel
And those won't adequately pressurize a fuel injector rail. They are ok for fuel wasting carburators
Things like this is why I’m glad my sc 300 can be accessed just by unclipping the trunk carpet.
Yup. Why don't they put a hatch there? I did a Durango and you had to drop the tank. I looked into cutting the floor out also but one of the mounts for seat was directly over the tank. Thanks for the comment
Great 👍🏽 job. And your neighbor sucks for that. I’d be pissed 😂
Thanks
Years ago I did this on an 85 Camaro although I never cut the lines. I just pulled the fuel pump out lines-included and replaced it and put it all back, was that not an option here? Cutting lines sure seemed to make this a much more challenging job. Appreciate you for sharing the approach and tool you used - I had used a Dremel tool to cut and sent sparks everywhere, do not recommend.
Thats for the comment. The fuel lines are bolted to the frame in two places. I saw no way to pull the pump without cutting line. The bolt hold the lines was underneath on from. Only one line has pressure. Modern day stuff all have quick connects on the lines. I have replaced this fuel pump twice before and dropped the tank. As I said in the video I think its the alcohol in the gas eating the pump up. When this car was made they didn't put alcohol in the gas.
Great 👍🏽 job
it's a fire bird here in a Vegas wrecking yard that has booth doors on it with no damage on them , i stumble across it by accident by going to different yards.
Do you know if they would ship the left door to me? I really need one. Where is the yard? Thanks for the heads up!
Sure thing I'm heading back to that wrecking yard Saturday with my son cuz he has a camaro & they are all gone in the wrecking yards out here & we found 1 there. But I definitely will ask them when I get there.
If not I can try help you get the door to you..
@@vgslife9640 How much do you think it would cost to send?
I don't know if the will ship the door or not but call & see you never know
You could probably get that door to come a lot with a stud gun. They also have kits with a glue so you can avoid paint correction.
Yes I have watched videos with the glue for dent pulling. They make it look so easy. Just the up front cost of equipment. When I find time I will video it. Thanks for comment. Helps the channel
You can get one for those suction cup dent repair kit I believe you call it.
Thanks for the comment. Been watching videos on it. I eed to find time to try what you said
Did you ask for a AC Delco pump at AutoZone or did you do like everyone else and just buy the cheapest
Thanks for the comment. I don't buy cheap generic parts for something like this. BUt maybe I should. As I show in the video I replaced with a A/C delco pump from Oralies. But when I get it out of the box it shows a manufacture date in the 90s. So I guess its new old stock. When I pulled the old one out you can see the sleeve is all ate up by my guess ethanol. We didn't have 10% in our fuel back in the 90s or when this car was engineered. Now thats all you can get around here. You can't even buy REC fuel here. I could go to the airport and buy 100LL lead gas I guess.
You showed which two lines were pressure line and return line what were the other two lines?
One is high pressure from fuel pump. One is return from fuel regulator. One is chargo canister. Fourth is vent that goes to check value in front of left rear tire.
Did you have to take off the back seats
No. I laid them down to drill that rivet out thats holding the electrical socket.
I’m having a hard to cutting the lines
@@isaacrodriguez4161 cut some of top then bottom. Then just bend back and fourth the break real easy.
@@isaacrodriguez4161 You need one of these tiny zero clearence tubing cutters. I had to rock it back n fifth because there's nit enough room to spin all the way around, but you'll make it!!!
And also by pressure line do you mean feed line?
The high pressure line goes to fuel pump. Return is low pressure. The other two are for gas fumes
Does the 3800 get vapor lock? She dies when she get up to temperature.
That sounds like a closed loop issue. I would be look at a sensor failure. Fuel injected cars don't vapor lock. Vapor lock was issue with metal fuel lines and carburetors. Carbed car had manual fuel pumps at what 8-10 pounds. Fuel injected car should have 40-60 pounds with half the fuel bypassing and going back to tank cooling everything. Failing fuel pumps will die with heat or high temps but thats not "vapor lock".
@@outdoorswithcam as a matter of fact I am throwing an O2 sensor. Is that closed loop related?
@@Tyyyyuru open loop is before the ECM kicks in and controls everything. Open loop everything is preset based on temperature. Once engine warms up ECM(computer) kicks into closed loop reading all the sensors. O2 sensor controls everything. It should be going back and further between rich and lean. Yes thats what an O2 sensor does. It measures how rich/lean the mixture is. The ECM is constantly trying to lean the engine out for MPG. Find that balance. ECM looks at O2, throdle position, MAF(air flow) and RPM. It makes a spark curve and a knock chart. This is all viewable on your Laptop or scantool. Useing the O2 it leans the engine out till it knocks. Forms the knocks table. So it knows how long to hold the injectors open to try and maintain and air/fuel mixture of 14 to 1. Yes O2 sensor can screw stuff up real fast. BUT O2 sensor lean is one of the most common codes. If you just pull DTC codes and it says O2 lean. people replace but most times that is not the problem. Dealers all the time pull O2 sensors out and just burn the carbon off them and put back.
what's that thing behind the seats that has two rivits in it called? mines rusted to all high hell and im wondering if thats my issue to why my pump ant working XD
That is the electrical connection for the fuel pump and sending unit. Its a junction. I don't know what the connection is called. I am sure If I look it up it will just be a number and not have a name.
@@outdoorswithcamo
What happens if the high pressure or return hose fails while driving down the road with your kids in the back seat?
If the line falls off the car quits running and fuel pump stops. The lines are not going to come off. I put the cut out back in. Then the padding and carpet. I am not driving down the road with a hole in the hatch. I would be more concerned about CO poisoning than a fuel leak. Then you would have the noise and heat coming in.
Nothing because even though those cars have back seats, no one fits back there.
Compression fittings generally don’t fail like that.
Also, a lot of those early F bodies had the fuel pump at the engine, they were still mechanical.
The pressures were not as high as cars today, either.
That’s why it’s considered hackery, among real car people. Easy isn’t always right. In the last 5 years I’ve had my tank out of my 92 three times now because of bad pumps, or a bad sender. It doesn’t help that it never gets driven, but I guarantee you I’m not cutting my 1LE up. They fetch much more money when not butchered.
@@dangeary2134 Those are not compression fittings lol
Do you have the part number for the AC/Delco pump?
EP241
is the part number for AC?delco
@@outdoorswithcam Thank you!
I used a line compression fitting for my high pressure line. Your fuel pump should only be putting out 42 psi, so why wouldn't standard 50psi fuel hose work??? You shouldn't need that expensive fuel injector fuel hose with that pump. I removed my pulsulator. Seems like an unnecessary variable in the equation. Good work.
Thanks for the comment. I used High pressure for the one line. You are correct 42 max. Rest were line rated for 10PSI. Recently i was re plumbing a 66 buik. I went to Autozone, Oraieley, Advance. The only thing any of them carried was high pressure hose. My only option to acquire low pressure hose was rural king. So 30 minute drive one way. Time is money. Take an hour drive to get low pressure hose when three parts stores are within couple miles but NONE carry low pressure(carb) hose any more.
Would this work on a 1995?
Possible. I know lots of people do this even in pickup trucks. It is so easy to just cut a hole esealliy when tank is full
My fuel pumps been in there 36 years lmao i want to cut mine also make trwp door
A lot of modern cars come with a fuel pump trap door. My wife's Jag has one under the back seat. Sure makes it easy... Thanks for the comment
I need help walking through the wires
Wires or gas line?
As a Paintless dent repair business owner, take it to a professional. I typically end up charging customers 2X to fix the damage they tried to repair. It only makes it worse
This fuel pump goes out every 5 years or so. The first time I did it "professionaly" with aid of a "real". mechanic. This time I just cut a hole. Riveted plate back and put carpet back. SO much easier. And in 5 years when it goes out again it will be so simple. I think its the ethanol in the gas eating them up.
@@outdoorswithcam my apologies i meant the dent in the door. Otherwise i have done exactly as you have and it worked great!
@@Wangchung405 Ohh. your probably right. I am old school. I have restored several but it was always with bondo or fiberglass. My dad has had some paintless dent repair. I was amazed. It was like magic. Thanks for the comment!
You are shades tree mcanic
Yup that was the third pump I have put in it. First 2 times I dropped the tank. I had access to lift. This way. Only took couple hours. Dropping the take took me two full day.
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Why not cut it somewhere more serviceable
Where do you suggest? This is right over the tank access...
That's the only spot 😢
Ya some backed into my dam door driveside by feont in middle by bottomconer i cant stand people that cant drive or pay attention, some times i think they doit on purpose
Lol
Why not just jack up the car and drop the tank. Total hack job
Have you ever done that on 3rd gen??? I have done it twice and will never do it again. I own several of them. First you have to have a lift. It's impossible to do just jacking up. It took me and anouther guy 2 days to do with lift car 6 feet in air. First you have to drop exhaust pipes from cat all the way back. Then the sway bar and suspension has to come off. Then you have to support the full tank on transmission jack. Problem is angle of filler neck. You have to bend it to get it out. Then bend back on reinstall. Remember full of gas. If I am not filming it. I can cut hole in top replace everything and be done under 2 hours. Tell me how long it takes you replace jacking it in drive way without lift? Maybe your doesn't have duel exhaust pipes and suspension parts under it. Please tell me how you did yours?
@@outdoorswithcam I did mine in 2.5 hours. With large jack stands. No lift. If I had a lift it would be out in a hour. Just has the I pipe over axle. Disconnect sway bay links, pilot arm, lower rearend down. Remove all the heat shield. Unbolt hangers on muffler. Put a coupler on your exhuast if you want to for future.
@@JamesHemme-rg1rk WOW you are one great mechanic! Mitchell1 estimator says it takes 4.8 hours. If you can beat the rate manual by 1/2 you are good. I always take the rate manual and double it when I work on something. It would take me an hour to jack it up and find all the tools I need. Much easier to just have a hatch in the back. Don't even need a ratchet or wrench. Wife Jag has a tank access hatch under rear seat.
I have to do a pump job like him because I have to fix the rusted put floor. There's no sense dropping rusted things when a they'll just break when you re install them
@@wtfan8610 Its so easy when you just go through the top
Lol dont do that
Why. My wife's car has a factory hatch over fuel pump just like I cut.
That's dodgy as