The Day I Quit Guitar - Polyphia - G.O.A.T Reaction
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I love watching people react to Polyphia for the first time - I honestly search for it. You’ve explained their talent much better than most and I agree that the average person has no clue what they are hearing. Kudos and subscribed
Yeah. This video certainly opened my eyes!
I literally do the same thing. Watching all of these pros react is really helping me put words to what I'm seeing because, honestly, I don't have the vocabulary for it. This is now one of my favorite reactions.
Thank god i’m not the only one that searches it. I agree 100% this was the best blind explanation of it by far
Thought I was the only one lol
me too. Never ever gets old
Polyphia is amazing. If you wanna dive into more instrumental bands. "I Built the Sky", "Wide Eyes", and "For Giants". Absolutely epic musicians
Thanks!
If you find this technicality impressive, be reminded that they play this stuff LIVE!
Yeah it blows my mind!
Every single one of those guys is a virtuoso with their instruments, but the mvp in my opinion has to be the drummer. The fact that he’s able to play things that normally would only be possible through drum machines and play them on time is ridiculous. A lot of their songs are written using midi first and then performed with instruments, which is part of why they’re so difficult. I don’t think many people appreciate the gymnastics that the drummer specifically has to go through lol.
Yeah I wish I understood drums more so I could discuss it in the videos more thoroughly.
great video
Pitch bends is done with
wobble stick
The song was based on a hibhop
Song , cord progression is based on that
Tim has a video (on you tube )on how rewrote the song
And the drummer plays with clink track
And they can play it live !!
I'm sure they can. Brilliant technicians
Speaking of unique music you should definitely check out Zeal & Ardor! They're releasing a new album now, but I'd recommend you start with "Blood In The River" at Off The Road Studios. It has an introduction to the band as well- don't forget to turn on subtitles!
I'll take a look!
Tim Henson did actually write this track in a DAW. He then deconstructed it into different parts that were physically possible to play on the available 4 instruments (band members).
There's a video on his channel explaining the process.
Yeah I keep meaning to do a deep dive on his channel.
Thanks for the link...
The first time someone played them for me i was like yoooo - did an ai create this- is an ai playing this like 🤯 wtf 🦾
Clay Aeschliman is easily one of the best drummers of all time. He's so creative. He'll be doing funky jazz stuff and then just switch over to the cleanest blastebeats you've ever seen. Ridiculous.
Insane chops.
Not many reactors will speak of the drumming. I find it just as fascinating as the guitar playing. I also really enjoy how he uses the cymbals often... He gets really creative with them.
I also love that you can see him singing the beat. Best advice I ever got for keeping time and improvisation is to sing what you are playing. I think it engages a different part of the brain and allows greater focus.
The technique used to give that flutter on the natural harmonic is actually a percussive strike on the whammy bar while its pointing away from the neck. What it essentially does, is coil the bridge and the springs recoil the bridge giving it that fast flutter. The effort to get that sound is minimized to a single movement to initiate the effect, however, the difficulty lies in its timing and accuracy you must have strike the bar to stay in time and not botch the flutter.
The amount of grinding to develop these skills is phenomenal.
I really appreciate how much you added to this reaction. A lot of channels just listen to music and say it was great but don’t add much. You earned a subscription from me.
Thank you!
Tim Henson said in an interview once that he avoids "boomer bends," meaning the 70s era bluesy style of guitar playing. He caught some heat for it, but I think his overall assessment is right. It's been decades since we've seen any real artistic progress made with the guitar. It's just been mostly seeing who can play the most notes the fastest.
BTW, there's another guitarist who has been advancing the guitar. Tosin Abasi. He plays with the group Animals As Leaders. They are a three piece who also only plays without a vocalist.
The other part of AAL, Javier Reyes is also insanely talented.
And then you have Yvette Young from Covet.
Mario Camarena and Erick Hansel from CHON are also incredibly talented and do some very interesting stuff.
Did you watch the video? He mentions Animals as Leaders.
I heard about the boomer bends. It came about from a candid interview with Rick Beato and friends.
While he was clearly just making fun, he is dead right. I come from the school of 'boomer bends' blues based guitar. And while there is a rich history there that goes back to the early days of guitar, even I get frustrated at the lack of pure innovation. I am enormously interested in where guitar is going. Tosin, Tim Henson, whatever. They need to make guitar their own for their generation. And I'm gonna go along for the ride!
@@EtopiaCA I rarely wait until the end of a video before commenting, because odds are I'll forget what I was going to say.
@@PrymalChaos true, but sheer technicality with more well understood styles jason richardson or archspire style is still beyond respectible in its own right even if its not boundary breaking
Definitely a great reaction! Anyone checking out Tim Henson or Polyphia, I generally refer them to check out Manuel Gardner Fernandes or Ichika Nito. They’re all kind of in the same style of guitar and all extremely talented
Thank you!
You’re very welcome amigo!
It's funny you say it sounds programmed, because that's Tim's writing process if I remember correctly. He writes the parts in a program, then he and the band learn it from there. Check out the making of video from Tim's channel. ruclips.net/video/sg_3jkSSbig/видео.html
Oh wow! Cool thanks!
I was JUST about to mention this lol
@@WuKingdom1 same xd
His way of turning hip hop production into a guitar track blew me away
tim henson's use of the whammy bar is just amazing as well as his use of literally every other aspect of the instrument
😂🤘
They have this song ssssoooo perfect when they play it live it sounds just like the album and the "playtime" is exactly the same it's insane....also if you listen closely you can tell they all are playing with and relying on the drummer to keep them all "in time" there is a reason this song is called G.O.A.T.
Fantastic!
Well... that's pretty much the whole purpose of a drummer.
@@citizennozmeda7232 yes, but with most other songs you can play in time without hearing the drums so much. And with this song the arrangement is so tight that if the drummer is off by just a little bit everyone else gets thrown off and the whole song gets "iced" if you listen to lead guitarist play it by himself he hits all the notes yes, but sometimes it slower and sometimes it's faster. Most ppl won't notice because he's playing by himself, but if he played like that with the band on stage everyone would know he's ahead or behind. Now put that idea to the whole band and that means the Drummer has to keep everyone in perfect time. Imo the drumming in this song is the hardest part due to the perfection he has play in order to "guide" the other musicians.
Good you listened to me with Polyphia you should check out O.D. as well its mind maze of music ;)
It's on the list! Thanks!
I highly recommend Nasty by Polyphia. Its my favorite by far. This band is pretty insane. Always love seeing people discover them for the first time.
I'll check it out!
@@PrymalChaos I second this this. Nasty is a nasty track indeed
@@PrymalChaos ill third anything they do is nuts
Fourth for sure
Fifth here
I have been out of touch with music since I retired so it is nice to have your guidance. This was another first for me and quite a revelation. They certainly keep your ears busy, really lovely crisp technique, they are at the top of their game. I am doing at least one of your videos a day and feel I hit the jackpot finding you because as I have said before, there are a lot of substandard reaction videos out there.
Thanks Stephanie! I really appreciate you saying that. I work really hard to make sure that each video has some kind of value.
I’m certain that some of the bands I feature won’t be to your particular tastes, but that’s why I keep the channel pretty diverse.
Phenomenal breakdown man. These guys are from my hometown and it's been incredible to watch them progress, they're absolutely incredible musicians.
Thanks!
The thing I loved about G.O.A.T when I first heard it was even as somebody with zero musical talent I knew that what I was hearing was something very special, unique and incredibly technical. Just had in instant appreciation of the skill these guys have
That's interesting to hear actually. I know how I relate to it as a musician, but sometimes I'm envious of listeners who don't have to over think it all and can just listen.
There’s a flamenco cover of this song on acoustic that even Tim Henson gushed about. I think the dude’s name is Robert Svard and it takes what’s already crazy here and puts a spin on it that’s just as technical but is also amazing in its own way.
I'll check it out!
By far my favorite cover of this song. Cy leos harmonica cover of 40 oz with the beatboxer is still the top cover overall though.
@@wereboarder2009 There's a new violin cover for G.O.A.T by Elena Abad that's absolutely nasty af. Best composed imo
It's absolutely amazing. I've been practising it for a year and can play all of it bar the last couple of runs at the end. Just can't get my fingers to move that fast.
They're just as good live, I've seen them three times at different venues and it always sounds perfect
I started playing guitar when I was 10, I'm 32 now and I didn't think I would ever hear anything new that would make my jaw drop but when I first heard G.O.A.T ...I was dead lol, it's so beautifully written.
Yeah, same!
You should check out the live rehearsal version.. sounds excatly the same. Insane. Makes me want to quit guitar lmao.
When i hear better guitarists it makes me want to become better myself. Why does it make you want to quit on something i'm sure you love or enjoy?
Tim Henson, the "lead" guitarist in this, composed this song in DAW and then learned to play it. Here's his video on that: ruclips.net/video/sg_3jkSSbig/видео.html
Polyphia really are insane, and I wonder how many people they have made feel like they just want to quit playing guitar (myself included) :)
I agree with several others here that you should check out their tune "O.D." which is definitely my favourite of theirs, and if you want something that will make you feel like quitting drums as well then you could check out the drummers (Clay Aeschliman) drum playthrough of "O.D." on Meinl Cymbals studio. That guy is a beast.
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Just what I need! More soul crushing awesomeness. Haha 🤣
You should check out unprocessed the song abandoned. There video is a one take video pretty cool if you like how this video was put together
The beauty about music is that there is so much to discover that you've never really heard of before. Keeping an open mind and looking for new music is a great mindset to have.
Also yes, the lads in Polyphia are absolutely nuts at their respective instruments. I do know that Tim Henson (short hair lead guitar) practiced for several hours a day for about 16 years, on top of just being very talented from the get go.
Some other Polyphia songs that are just absolutely incredible and are worth checking out are O.D, 40oz and Aviator (featuring another insane guitarist in Jason Richardson). Honestly their entire discography are just filled with bangers.
If you're looking for another virtuosic instrumental band (and since you already know Animals As Leaders), I'd point you in the direction of a band called 'Covet' and their song 'Shibuya' would be a pretty neat introduction, they're a bit more towards the math-rock side of things.
I'm in!
Covet is phenomenal! And the other Polyphia songs mentioned are also great tracks. Enjoy.
I think you'd enjoy Marcin as well. He is a prodigal guitarist (21) who has arranged songs like Kashmir, Toxicity (when he was just 16), Master of Puppets, Moonlight Sonata, Nocturne, etc but has also written his own songs. He basically plays an entire band arrangement on just his guitar. His hands move so fast you can barely see what he's doing but on his IG live video's he shows how it's done.
Oh cool! Thanks for the tip!
some other active bands to check out that are just next level musicians and pushing music in very exciting dimensions:
Dirty Loops: Swedish Jazz Fusion/Pop. did a cover of Thriller transposed into 6/8 that's a lot of fun.
Sokoninaru: frenetic Japanese Math Rock, like Dillinger Escape Plan but melodic.
Covet: American instrumental band, Yvette Young is a one-of-a-kind guitar artist.
Dude I am ALL OVER Dirty Loops. Hit me has one of the most amazing Vocal runs ever recorded.
Oh and I'm planning on doing some Dillinger. I know I'm supposed to like their style but somehow I've never gotten around to hearing them!
They write all of there songs in a DAW with midi then figure out how to play that with live instruments afterward. That's why it sounds more like an orchestral composition than a standard rock song.
My friend said it best. Polyphia is the type of band that makes music for musicians. Not to say that non musicians don’t enjoy or appreciate the music, but musicians can really sit down and dissect how technical the sound is.
Yeah. Well said.
and GREAT break down BUT I just listen to them....close my eyes...and take a ride..! and THAT is MOST AWESOME..!!!
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
and oooo weee fun!!!
They drop the. Bass boost on the tone knob. You can slide harmonics. Check out Vector. Pteropticon.
Not related to this type of music (which is awesome by the way), but if you're looking for interesting musical concepts, maybe check out Zeal & Ardor - Blood in the River (the session video).
The story behind it is that this Swiss musician with an African American background asked in a 4Chan forum what strange genre combos would be interesting to try out. So some people suggested black metal. Then some troll said N*gger music. Long story short, the guy ran with it. And thought what if slaves turned to Satanism instead of Christianity. And that resulted in this interesting mix of African American Spiritual, Soul and Black Metal.
Love the channel and your insights, keep up the good work.
Whoa! That sounds awesome. What a concept!
Zeal & Ardor are beyond amazing. Some of their songs are modern versions of the old "Field Hollars"... the songs many slaves sang to pass the time in the fields (and cope with their systemic oppression.) These songs were the basis, and inspiration for blues music in the post civil war American south. It's a fascinating look into the dark past of American slavery, and a history lesson in what led to modern music. Other than classical music, almost all 20th & 21st century music originated from these early styles of music which were rooted in slavery.
Goat took me 6 months to learn and it still doesn’t sound nearly as clean. It’s incredibly precise and unique
I envy the fact that you got that far! 😂🤘
Ok, I'm just gonna leave this here
Awakening by ichika nito
I am 100% sure that you're gonna get your mind blown again
Check also by them:
O.D.
40oz
Goose
Nasty
Icronic
The Worst
I feel like you could pitch shift a harmonic with the trem, but Im pretty sure he said in GOAT, those bit’s are pitch shofted in post. Could be wrong tho
I've watched a ton of reactions to this video and you are the first one to pick up on the "heaven & hell" dichotomy with them visually moving up and down between floors in the the church.
Thanks for that! I try to be observant so that I can add some value to the experience. Thank you for noticing that I noticed! 😂
Do their look but don't touch playthrough video. Insane. If you do then you've earned yourself a subscriber and a headache.
Tim Henson: The 12 yo looking boy that destroys people who have been playing guitar for 12 years.
I’m gonna call them “Dudes Wearing Shirts” now
This is music for people with short attention spans. It's cool but ultimately forgettable.
Instrumental bands are insane. Usually the vocalist serves the purpose of exciting the crowd and hyping people up. Somehow these bands find a way for usually one guy to do that, except with an instrument. In this band, it’s Tim. Intervals is the same sort of deal too.
Foxy Shazam should be on your list. Pretty much the closest modern day equivalent of Queen.
Oh that sounds like something I'd be interested in.. and a great band name too!
@@PrymalChaos the song Holy Touch is probably the best place to start with Foxy Shazam. So many good ones, but it’ll give you the clearest idea why I say they’re pretty much modern day Queen. Lol.
Don’t come across too many artists that actually break down the complexities of music so that the average enjoyer understands. Fantastic review!
What amazes me most about Tim is his super fast licks. They can get muddy very easy but for Tim, every note is crisp and clear regardless of the speed
Yeah it's like he can slow down time.
Unprocessed-Abandoned. If you liked G.O.A.T, you'll love this song too. Kinda like polyphia with lyrics
Finally, someone who talks about the difficulty of the guitar notes!!
Yeah. It's both terrifying and inspiring!
Gotta check out OD by polyphia next for sure
They are all insane. I just saw them in concert a few months ago and they sounded just as good. I'm amazed at how perfectly they can play it every single time.
Same here. Saw them with my wife in Orlando opening for DGD and I was blown away. We were right in front of Tim and I couldn’t take my eyes of his hands. Fast forward 2 weeks and I was like who the hell was that band again. Couldn’t get their sound out of my head. After hearing their full catalog I’m a fan for life and so is my wife.
Blood moon... short one... for the whammy flair
"you ever experience something that makes you want to quit" Yes! first time I saw Dream Theater....and I don't even play. I'm a sound guy and I wanted to go home and burn my PA! lol Same for these guys! They are tighter than a nun's cnt. Great reaction!!
It’s a whole other level. I can barely play in time and I’ve called myself a “guitarist” since “92.😂😂
In my opinion he is an overrated guitar player, sorry.
Anything Berried Alive. Literally anything
What a great review, I loved all the commentary and pausing for discussion. 🙂
I just turned 50, been playing like you, had the same, "Oh no" hyper awareness moment. I thought what's the point, who needs my mediocre skills with people like this in the world. I had to realize: Polyphia is bringing their inspirations to our ears, giving us their best, blowing our minds and making us aware of old limiting ideas. I hear the amazing transitions, the clarity, precision and the definitive groove I just want to lay in. As staggeringly amazing as these guys are, they will never make your song or mine. We are the only ones who hear our muse. I am the only one who can create my music. They could surely play it infinitely better than I can, but not till I share it. ;-) I bow humbly before Polyphia. 🙂
Great attitude! I am the same, greatness and change shouldn't be feared, it should be inspiring!
Great video. If unique and heavy music is what you’re looking for, check out Silent Planet, if you haven’t already. Most popular is their song Panic Room, and a newer one is Anhedonia
I don't think I have checked them out. I'll take a look.
and i like LOVE '''POLYPHIA''.!!!
Man caught on to it everything that polyphia writes is in 4/4 yet for a lot it doesn't sound like it, but yes you can still feel the groove of 4/4 which just makes it more impressive for me since it shows how creative their composition is as well. Hope that you wanna check out ichika nito awakening, he's a solo guitarist from Japan.
I'm on to it. I'll find the time soon! Still some work to be done with Polyphia, periphery, etc. And I just discovered Between the Burried and Me. There's just too much talent out there.
@@PrymalChaos loooove BTBAM. I envy people getting to take it all in for the first time, enjoy the ride!
I highly recommend "Awakening" by Ichika Nito. It's the song for his signature Ibanez and he's absolutely insane.
Those harmonics with a clean tone...It would be like picking someone else's nose,without them notcing.Gross,I know.
I bought my first guitar in the mid 80's and can play fairly well.These guys are simply on a higher plane.Let them be better at what they do and just enjoy your instrument. 🤘🤙✌
I feel you Kevin. I feel you.
You should give a listen to I Built The Sky. He's been called the Australian Polyphia... one his greatest song Up Into The Ether ruclips.net/video/OTBdO18zmxQ/видео.html
I'll check it out!
You too can play like Tim if you learn: sweeps, hybrid-picking, tapping whenever you want, harmonics of all kinds, whammy control of the gods, you know what? could I just sell my soul to the devil instead? would that be quicker?
It seems like a solid option at this point!
On Tim's interview on Guitar Villains he almost seemed to be proud to clarify all their stuff was 4/4. If he wasn't, he should be. They are masters at taking something standard and upgrading it in a totally interesting way
At 17:20 he prob just did a cricket bro
watch it live…. they are just as insane
You NEED to watch The Biggest Shred Collab In The World IV by Jared Dines. Insane
I'll check it out!
whammy bar + harmonics = sick
I’m so happy to see you listened to this. Where as you should obviously check out more polyphia in general, I highly recommend 40oz live soundcheck and the drummer, clay aeschliman’s, drum play throughs. He’s got one of this song.
Ok cool!
I get it. I’ve been a gamer for 20 years but I’m still just slightly better than average. Whenever I see like some grade schooler on a CoD clip with a 18/1 k/d ratio or something, I just wonder why I even try. x_x
😂😂 100%
U should try some Japanese women metal bands, and u will find out women can shred , no shit.(this band"Lovebites" )
Livebites is on the list!
Tim Henson, one of the guitarist, has a youtube channel. Watch all his videos as 1 reaction video. Amazing stuff on there!
I've seen a couple. He's awesome.
A flutter is just a flick of the whammy, hes not moving it up and down. The spring, finding its tension, creates the flutter sound.
It's a cool sound!
I heard him say they have "dry ice" on the stage and I was multitasking so by the time I looked over I just saw the bass player next to the drummer and I was like huh why does he call the bass player dry ass? Lmao 🤣
😂
Unprocessed did a song with 2 members of Polyphia. The song is called "Real".
Thanks for the tip!
distortion hides inaccuracies to a point, but if you listen to the graveyard classics albums from six feet under you hear how clean they play in more standard tunings because they normally play so dropped and distorted it requires the precision to not sound like mud
Truth!
Moar! Check out O.D. or Yas by them. Also amazing breakdown!
Thanks!
You should react to " In the Cut " by Miguel and Tim Henson, and Yas by polyphia
I will eventually.
Bro they made me quit too. It’s a love hate with them. I personally feel like they are the 2 best alive. And currently the 2 goats
For me it's how they look at the instrument in a different way.
Check out Cardiacs! They're a super interesting prog band from the UK, tarred and feathered is my go to song
I'm Unfamiliar. I'll take a look!
Yeah these guys are tight!!
no hate on this song but damn why does everyone ask for this one?
is it extremely talented? yea
but this song is on the pretty boring side compared to their other stuff
also tim, the guitar guy with short hair, is like 28 now i think
hes been shredding since he was like 15/16
their first ep was actually basically tech metal and he was just as insane back then
(the ep is called resurrect if you wanna check it out)
Will do! Thanks!
Rush - La Villa Strangiato (Official Music Video)
Thanks
I'll take a look!
I literally started *trying* to learn to play guitar yesterday. I found Polyphia today. Is throwing up in rage and jealousy a thing?
Haha. Start slow. You’ll get there. Tim Henson was once where you are.
If you've not already seen it, watch them perform GOAT live!
I'm saving it for a possible reaction video. 😁🤘
You should really watch „the doo“ on RUclips, he’s one of the most talented guitarist of our time!
I'm familiar but I need to check out more!
Dude tim henson is the lead guitar player look at this RUclips channel some sick stuff on it
I've had a quick look. He is on another level.
I could never play like them but also will never listen to that style of music .not for me
That's fair! As I said to another guy, it's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavours of icecream! Taste is important.
I veiw this as like F1 racing, just don't make mistakes.
Precision
Start checking out Japanese bands and you will get a lot of new people!
Yeah I've got a few on my list.
Would also LOVE to see your reaction to the live sound check version of this they did 👌
It's whammy bar dips instead of detuning.
Yeah. I hear it now. I couldn't picture it because it seems like he was already juggling too many things to get to the whammy bar as well. Hahaha.
The runs in this song are the most insane things ever. Song title completely makes sense
The precision is what gets me.
Subscribed!!
You asked how they got together and I haven't see anyone answer it so I'll give it a try.
Original group: Tim Henson (G), Scottie LaPage (G), Clay Gober (B) and Brandon Burkalter (D).
They formed during highschool in Plano, Texas (Dallas suburb). They started out super fast sheddy technical metal and got more progressive as they went on. Tried for a vocalist early on but never suited them so they just stayed instrumental. (With the exception of a couple featured vocals.)
Brandon left (mostly session drummer now, but he released an incredible solo EP with him on drums and keyboard.) Very talented guy! I suggest his playthrough video "Trenches" if you wanna check him out. He deserves more attention IMO.
Then came Clay A. He really allowed the rest of the band to continue on into their new sound with obvious influences from hip hop, trap and R&B. All while still using their ridiculously high caliber chops blending into the sexy amalgam of prog metal.
Seen them live about 6 times now and each show I'm more impressed.
Hope that's helpful. I'm glad I found your channel. Great reaction and super informative! Love your positive attitude too.
Please consider checking out more prog metal stuff like:
Plini, Night Verses, Caligula's Horse, Intervals, Sithu Aye, Arch Echo and David Maxim Micic.
Cheers!
Thanks mate! Appreciate the back story.
Also I haven't heard of any of those recommendations! I'll take a look!
@@PrymalChaos Awesome! You won't be disappointed.
It’s pronounced like “pull iffy uh” 👍
Thanks for that. I'll probably still get it wrong. 😂😂
You had it the second time, emphasis on the Pol rather than Poly.
Thank you!
Musicians *
his wammy bar is making the harmonic bends friend
Thank you!
Reactions to Polyphia started to pop out in my notifications and it has also made me want to get back on my guitar. When I first heard them I also felt like nope, no more guitar for me. But seeing reactions makes me want to go back to playing. Currently waiting for my pickup replacements and my first multieffects to start learning again.
By the way, OD is my favorite. Especially with Clay's Meinl video.
Gotta keep playing!