I O.D. on Polyphia - O.D. Reaction!
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Tim has 2 videos where he talks about how he made G.O.A.T and O.D. For sure worth watching. Gives a lot of insight on how Tim thinks compositionally without really spoiling any of there other tracks.
Ok, good. Yeah I try to keep fresh ears so to speak and sometimes that means staying away from other videos.
@@PrymalChaos I'm always fascinated by people's writing process, and Tim's was very interesting! He actually does a full breakdown of OD, and I found it so interesting and very surprising!
Holy shit, just saw the GOAT review last night and thought to myself "GOAT is difficult, but I wonder if he's seen OD..." And here it is! Great video mate.
Haha. Thanks! I couldn't wait any longer. Needed more Polyphia.
Beyond the sense of "nerding out", I think most musicians can connect to when you just lock in with your friends and crush a song together. I connect emotionally to that. I feel an elation when I listen to this. It throws me into a fantasy of imagining how it would feel as a band to nail something like this together. You get this sense like these four are deeply connected.
The trust factor of would be a male high. I see exactly what you're saying.
@@PrymalChaos Exactly. Nicely put. That "trust factor" is something most of us crave from our very first years in life, whether it's a sports team or a rock band.
I've had a little bit of training from child psychologists in teaching little kids, and one thing they taught us was to comfort little boys who fall down on the playground by reassuring them that the team still needs them. It's not "get up, you're okay", but "get up, we need you". Fascinated me!
@@micahsheller101 Wow! That is fascinating. It's amazing how just rephrasing a little can make a world of difference. I think we can all learn something from that.
The Worst, and Goose.
The Clays are absolutely beasts and Polyphia wouldnt be as amazing now without them.
I love how there's two Clays.
Check out Saucy and Bad from them. First is a swingy fusion kinda song with one of the best guitar riffs I ever heard on the bridge and the second is very slept upon in their catalogue. Nice reaction/review man 👍
i kinda skipped over Bad but after giving it another listen recently its one of my favs off that album. Definitely a super underrated song
Thank you!
Dude you could literally just react to every song and ill always watch. This is incredibly fun to see someone say all the things I feel. I nerd out about these guys all the time and no one seems to understand.
Oh, I understand. 😂🤘
Champagne by them is sooooo clean and fun.
Their Renaissance album is a totally different take and a crazy chill vibe album. Would love to see your take Nightmare or Amour
Love the vids! Thank you
I'll take a look.
I second nightmare!
I can completely relate when you said you didn't know what part to listen to. I listened to this song over and over a lot of times focusing on different instruments and how they worked together. It is a genius composition.
So good!
I just discovered Polyphia a week and a half ago, and I could tell OD would be my favorite once I could start to really follow it :) Took several listens, for sure!
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
AND YES...'''''POLYPHIA'''......BOOM..!!!!!
I don’t know if someone already mentioned it but the guitar sound in the bridge is a multi-voicer. Tim uses Axe FX and now has an Archtype plugin that models 3 of his main sounds.
Yeah I'm thinking of looking into a Kemper or something but they're pricy! 😬
If you want another banger from them you should check 40oz
The best way to descride is: The most virtuous band since Rush.
Dude if you like the chaos of polyphia you gotta check out IGORRR IEUD. You will not be disappointed keep up the awesome reviews
You aren't the first to suggest it. I'll give it a look.
The song euphoria is an evil evil earworm that will never leave your head....also they have a song with Jason Richardson( solo artist, formerly of Born of Osiris) called Aviator that is a super original piece, and Richardson's solo is stellar. Check em out when you have time.
Sounds awesome. I'll take a look.
@@PrymalChaos I agree, Euphoria keeps playing in my head randomly.
@@usuallyclueless4477 Aviator is nasty! JR has a song called Titan that is insane as well. Polyphia's older stuff is heavier - check out "transcend".
@@wsliv4611 Yes I've heard all of them.
If you're interested in the drum work, Clay Aeschliman does drum videos of Polyphia songs on the Meinl Cymbals RUclips channel.
In this one, he does his best impression of Jim from the office - just occasionally looking at the camera like "You heard that too right?!"
my favorite fun fact about OD is that the musical progression of the entire song was heavily influenced by "Look What You Made Me Do" by Taylor Swift, which is just so god damn funny to me.
Cool little anecdote!
You should do 40oz
As well you should check out Cafo by animals as leaders and check out Tosin Abasi
40oz is up there with goat for me, nightmare is also amazing but that is from their 7-8 string days
I'll get to both of them. 🤘
Polyphia - Nasty
The part that always blows my mind is their timing. The timing on the cymbal hits feels borderline mechanical...and they time the bass drum hits with the bass licks perfectly. I play guitar but I almost appreciate the sync between the bass and drums more...then I hear one of the legato sweeps and I'm back to the guitar again...I love how the energy increases on the guitar get matched by the drums and they actually have spots where the bass shines...it's just so GOOD!
You just don't know where to look! There's so much excellence in every direction!
Their song Light has one of my favorite guitar hooks of all time.
That sound is the "multivoicer" you are talking about at 14:00.
Now you are falling down the Polyphia rabbit hole, you must check out CHON.
Bubble Dream is an amazing (and personally more melodic) way of utilising harmonics and the brilliance of young modern guitarists and techniques
We need another super chon bros tour
I'm sure I'll get around to all of them!
@@xXnakahara_Xx seeing tricot in april again and can't wait.
@@BytheNightNyans Tricot is dope sounds like a lot of fun, hope you enjoy it
Polyphia - Multi tonal simulteous direction of 2 instruments...
I'm sure you're getting barraged by comments telling you to check out a bunch of Polyphia tracks.. but a very interesting one to look at would be "Yas", which features Mario Camarena and Erick Hansel from CHON (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen Nitrogen) .. another really really crazy Instrumental progressive rock/groove band. Same idea behind the guitar playing, in a sense. All of CHON's band is also extremely talented!
I think eventually I'll have to get to all their videos. I'm on a mission now! I just have to be careful to spread out the songs between genres. It's far too easy to fall down a rabbit hole. I needed up doing half of Jinjer's catalogue 😂😂
@@PrymalChaos Well hell... Now you've another band to dive into.. CHON! That said, start with 'Bubble Dream' for some really fun technique use on guitar.. They have a Live studio version you'd love. Super tight playing, just like our beloved Polyphia, here.
You should check out "goose" and "the worst" , "saucy"
If you wanna go deep Polyphia, check out Look But Don’t Touch
Tim claims the triplet runs are meant to emulate a rapper. When i heard him talk about that it made this song make a lot more sense to me
Yes. Tim does have a neck tat now. Whenever I hear Tim’s opening riff that repeats throughout the track it sounds like Eminem rapping to me. As far as other Polyphia tracks, others have mentioned Goose, but I’d also add Nightmare (which has some tasty 8 string work) and Yas. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Phillip! I'm down for some 8 string work. I have a 7 and that seems like too much for me. Working on it though! 😂
If you haven't seen Clay Aeschliman's video highlighting the drums, give it is look. It's an education. His master of the cymbals is unreal. Clay Gober may get overlooked, but his playing is just perfect. The whole world is in his pocket.
ruclips.net/video/hEOtEjTP2ag/видео.html
Thanks I'll check it out!
I've been trying to learn this song for some time now. And I just can't get through it at all.
It's not even a technical problem. It's a brain problem. I can't make any sense of the sequences. I can't integrate them. I can memorize them, but not muscle-memorize them. After months of trying I'm still stuck playing this shit at "stepdad speed" (thanks Ben Eller).
Quite honestly it's because you didn't write it. I often think about how learning other people's playing can be difficult because when they write it, the use techniques and phrases that naturally occur to them and how their hands work.
That particular little run that drives you crazy is probably natural to them based on all of the noodling they do everytime they pick up a guitar.
If you were to write a piece based on how you play guitar there's probably gonna be parts that Tim Henson would have to battle to get through.
Now as far as piecing all of the parts together, it's because you are thinking of it in bite sized digestible chunks. Your brain is thinking "oh cool! I got through that bit, now what's next?" But by then it's too late.
Maybe try practicing the transition between each section, like a couple of notes before the next part then continue on.
The guitar sound uses a multi voicer - Tim's Neural DSP plugin has the O.D. tone preset.
I think I may have to look into that plugin.
@@PrymalChaos It's got a ton of other presets, and is genuinely excellent. 12 day free trial too!
Please check out Yas by them!
Do a reaction of their look but don't touch playthrough video. Insane. if you do then you've earned yourself a subscriber and a headache. Also, Tim henson fun fact. He wrote O.D about a time he was overdosing on acid and how he felt. That's why the songs all over the place. Goose or in the cut is my favorite song polyphia or Tim has ever done
I'm not sure I'm ready for that kind of savagery. 😂 Don't worry. I'll get to it!
If you're really into the drums 'Meinl Cymbals' channel has a video of Clay Aeschliman drummer of Polyphia, playing the drum part for O.D.
Oh nice! I'll take a look!
Polyphia has another song called "Nasty" which is appropriately named. also featuring Jason Richardson.
They're all insanely good. You can see the drummer doing the playthru of this song here ruclips.net/video/hEOtEjTP2ag/видео.html
Thanks I'll take a look!
if you want bassy goodies, listen to a band called the omnific. they did a song featuring polyphia’s bassist called antecedent. definitey worth a listen.
Thanks for the tip!
Can't really choose what to recommend.
All the members are insane. The bassist shines in 'Saucy', and '40Oz' has an interesting video.
Tim has some cool stuff on his channel ( "Tim vs Ichika Nito", or "Blood moon" for example)
I subbed...
Now give a listen to Open wounds by Within the ruins.
Within the ruins.. I'll take a look!
This sounds like G.O.A.T v2.0. Great reacton!
Thank you!
Holy shit the pause right on the second and a half the baby head is on screen for, haha. Well done.
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I really love their song nightmare it’s super underrated because all of their songs are next level but nightmare is still my favorite
I think the words you were looking for in that first pause were "sensorial overload". This one, no intro nothing, from the start it just makes you uncomfortable and doesn't let go. Welcome to Polyphia, enjoy the stay. By the way, Tim has been evolving his play incorporating some of the Tosin Abadi "thumpin" skills and it sounds amazing.
Yeah. That's probably the phrase I was looking for!
The best part of O.D. is that because there's so much going on, everytime you listen you're equally impressed. Even the drummer is shredding
Anything from the Muse album is great!
The Jungle, Baditude and Hourglass are some good recommendations :)
F
YAS
Take all their talent and virtuosity and put it with a groovy R&B beat with two other extremely talented featured guitarists.
The drum play through is absolutely fantastic. Lyrical was a great description, clay is one of the most stylish drummers I’ve ever heard.
Amazing insight and reactions. Def a new fav channel and looking forward to your future on the platform! Keep it up!
I appreciate that Onyx! Thank you.
40oz is decently worth a listen
It will definitely happen.
22:43 it's both, and Tim has said as much. When they were younger before college and just shredding for shred's sake, so to speak, Tim said that he would jokingly tell people he didn't practice. But now that it really is his livelihood, he decided to be real about how he got to where he is and tell people that he has ALWAYS practiced. Most people don't realize that he started training in classical music from the age of THREE. By middle school, he was practicing up to TWELVE hours a day on BOTH guitar and violin. He wants to set an example for budding artists that talent goes nowhere without thousands of hours of practice, but WITH it, the sky isn't even the limit.
“That sound” is a stack of four vocoders IIRC
Cool
I haven't listen to it closely but it seems that the drumming part you appreciate was derived from the hi hat type of EDM beat at the very end of the song. The drumming is just insane not only technically but also stylistically.
The guitar effect that Tim is using here and in many other songs is a multivoicer (vocoder).
These guys are great! 😃
Ohh. Ok that actually makes sense. It really didn't sound like any effect I was familiar with. Thank You.
@@PrymalChaos he has his own vst guitar plugin called neural dsp tim henson
you should check it out. all the effects he uses are on it
The thing you're talking about at 14:52 is a multivoice pedal. Tim Hensons guitar plugin with Neural DSP has one built into it and it's bananas what you can do with it.
I'm gonna have to look at that Neural DSP plugin. I get tonnes of Instagram ads for it.
@@PrymalChaos It's totally worth it there's literally hundreds of presets and it comes with like 10 different petals 3 amps 3 cabs and all sorts of other crazy stuff It's probably the best one they've released so far especially if you go back and forth between heavy tones and clean tones
14:10 tim uses a vocoder on a couple tracks and worked with neural dsp to add one to his own plugin from them
Oh right! I’ve seen the ads come up for that.
@@PrymalChaos the ad itself deserves a full track 😂
you a whole ass vibe my dude, i love this
Thanks mate!
I like this song is better than goat
I think I might too.
About halfway through listening to this video I commented to my wife that I wondered how these four musicians got together. Was it some really connected producer had seen them all and told them you guys have to play together. Or did they all go to high school together, which would seem like you said To have some ethereal tampering, kind of like call five minutes later in your video you literally said the same exact thing.
The drums are always so bouncy with Polyphia
Throw a chord in an arpegiator, remove some of the notes it spits out, try to play it with the guitar, and boom! And hopefully it sounds like OD after you sprinkle some magic dust on it. And not to mention talent :)
That seems like how it's done. But yeah.. it's that magic part that's tricky. 😂
I just found your channel and definitely subscribed, with that said I love your passion, word choice, and description when talking music. I will for sure be back to indulge along with you!
Thank you so much!
Real by Unprocessed featuring Tim and Clay has some of my favourite work by the two of them, you should check it out
Thanks for the tip!
this song and 40oz are some of their harder riffs.... learnt goat in its entirety (far from perfect, needs work) but the O.D. riff is so much more difficult than the goat riff, mainly due to its speed and tapping. also, tim made a video 'making of O.D. and you can hear a clean playthrough of the riff at 3:26 in the vid-
{m.ruclips.net/video/MZ4QN2uFif8/видео.html }
and yuchi112 has the full tabs for goat and runs through them slowly in digestible sections { m.ruclips.net/video/qx-8LLXxmJc/видео.html}
I have added it to watch later and will certainly have a go at it.
40oz, Yas, Nasty, and Look But Don’t Touch are all really amazing songs too
Thanks! I'll certainly get around to them!
Polyphia is like watching a Cirque de Soleil juggling act.
Agreed.
first
Told you you should check this out :D If you want to relax a bit try out batmetal trilogy ;)
Oh are they the animated ones? I've seen those. Brutally funny!
good call on Polyphia.
@@PrymalChaos Well if you dont know the man I highly recomend Leo Moracchioli. He does metal covers of all the songs you can think of and hes a really good musician as well :)
@@akiratoriyama1635 oh yeah from Frog Leap studios. I've seen his stuff come up from time to time. He is a supremely talented individual..
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Unfortunately everything is old at this point. The most recent song they put out was "Look but don't touch" which was released April fools 2019 and that was only a single. Everyone has been waiting on a 4th album that seems like it may never come.
How am I J st o my hearing about them now?!
@@PrymalChaos hey man I know the feeling. I learned of Polyphia through Babymetal because Tim and Scott did a featured guitars on 1 song on the most recent Babymetal album which was released Oct of 2019. So there's literally been no new Polyphia since I started listening to them almost 2.5 years ago.
if you want electronic elements. their ep "most hated" would be for you
the song 40 oz is crazy....its like melodic dubstep and smooth jazz/rock mixed in lol
plus the video is hilarious
Yeah 40oz comes up a lot in the comments. Might have to be next.
Great reaction and breakdown!
Thanks mate!
14:02 multivoicer/vocoder on a guitar
Nice!