What I REALLY think about new menopause guidelines | Liz Earle Wellbeing
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Liz is back in her weekly vlog and today she's sharing her thoughts on the new NICE Menopause Guidelines, which were published earlier this month.
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The NICE guidelines make my blood boil 🤬 Thank you Liz for highlighting this!
Thanks for watching ❤️
Thank you for talking about this. CBT is loved by the NHS because it’s cheap. It is about as effective as a chocolate teapot for everything but very low-level anxiety, and I would argue that mindfulness is probably better than CBT for that.
It’s insulting that the very real physiological symptoms of the menopause are being ignored and not properly addressed, in favour of a ‘therapy’ which psychologists have likened to putting polish on a dirty floor (not addressing the underlying issue).
Dr Louise Newson is 100% correct. This is medical gaslighting. Women deserve better.
Thanks for sharing - we do! ❤️
Dr Newson is a hero in how she has shaped the menopause journey for sooo many women who have struggled ...me included...
She is a hero! Thanks for sharing ❤️
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We should all go march to government and protest against these ridiculous new nice guidelines i am so angry 😡 thank you Liz for updating us! I will tell nice guidelines exactly what i think of them xx
thanks for sharing ❤️
I have been on HRT for about 7 years after I turned 50 & was suffering terribly. It has transformed my life. I have Oestrogel gel in the morning 1 pump on each top of arm & Utrogestan tablets 1 per evening. I will never stop taking these. My Doctor is very supportive as they are plant based & recommended them.
We’re is your dr I need one that will proscripe hrt thank you
Thanks for sharing ❤️
@@jennifervillanueva4861 In Somerset UK. Best thing I have ever done. 😍
Thank you for highlighting this. I had to go private having total hysterectomy & was told it was a mess inside after hemorrage. Now under consultant Mrs Raghavan who is monitoring my eostrogel & testosterone treatment. So fat all pain has gone I am full of energy & can work more hours easily. Prior to going private the NHS consultant offered me anti depressants as if the physical symptoms were all in my head. My heart goes out to all women being let down so badly 😢
Thanks for sharing ❤️
Thank you for sharing this Liz. I had to go to Louise Newson to get my HRT because my GP would not prescribe it for me. It has changed my life and made me feel normal again. Thank you to you and Louise for everything you have done and continue to do in highlighting the benefits 🥰 xx
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@@lizearlewellbeing looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night ❤️🎄🥰🎄❤️ xxx
Omg yes you’re so right I’ve been going through my menopause and they wanted me to have help from the mental health team and omg it made me feel like I was going mentally crazy and if I hear that word meditate once more I’m going to freak out and talking as not helped with my anxiety but my hrt has 😂
Thanks for sharing ❤️
If it wasn’t for your information Liz I would still be given antidepressants, thankfully at aged over 59 I am happy healthy and thankfully on hrt even though I had years trying in Australia to get it.
Unfortunately most of my friends are told a point blank NO it’s still for some reason a stigma, absolutely dreadful
Thanks for sharing ❤️
I'm enraged at NICE and all the horrific journalists (even worse, when it's female journalists) with this continual gas lighting and trying discredit all the amazing meno warriors trying to make our lives better. Thank you Liz and Louise. I've been on hrt since I was 45 and 3 years on post hysterectomy will always be. I feel better than I have done in years, all thanks to my lovely pal recommending Louise newson to me when my gp wouldn't listen.
Thanks for sharing ❤️
In this day and age, it's abhorrent! I'm in Australia, and it's not any better here. As women have to keep fighting 💪
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This is just ridiculous. We can’t keep going backwards. Who are the NICE people who decided this? There names and knowledge about menopause should be published.
Now is the time to be teaching GPs far more about HRT and the numerous benefits and to help all women (plus helping the NHS save money in the long term when osteoporosis, heart attacks, strokes and dementia are prevented!) rather than dismissing women as just imagining things or just being ‘that age’, which, disgustingly many doctors still do!
Thanks for sharing ❤️
There is no way that I could work full time, commute, run a home and be a good mom, get on with my partner and work colleagues, and be a good friend and walk my dog without my HRT. Thanks to the Newson Health clinic, my doctor agreed to prescribe my HRT in 2020. I have offered to help at my local surgery as a menopause ambassador. The menopause nurse is trying to get the practice manager to agree to a menopause support clinic, but the doctors are not interested. It makes me sick! The sad part is the male doctors seem more understanding than female doctors. 😮😮😮 Keep on keeping on ❤❤❤
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Why oh why didn't NICE have Louise's expertise on the panel!! When you have recognised clinical experts like her and they aren't consulted, or worse still ignored!!
Thank you for highlighting this Liz. To say I am mortified & disappointed with the new NICE guidelines would be an understatement !! . Thank goodness we have amazing women like Dr Louise Newson fighting our corner. HRT has given me my life back. I’d like to know how CBT could resolve my many symptoms such as brain fog , fatigue, breast pain, itchy skin , anxiety, low mood , I could go on !!
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So……are we thinking there is far more profit to be made if instead of our cheaper HRT, we sign up for repeat prescriptions of anti depressants, statins, blood thinners, diabetes drugs, sleeping tablets, prescribed joint pain relief, blah, blah, blah?
Thank you Liz, we must all email newson health for them to pass on really important. It's medical gaslighting and it's very upsetting in 2023 with so much evidence to support hrt. I read daily menopause forums where womdn are still being denied hrt it's gps that need training alongside a much better nice re written guidelines that support hrt as we all know it's given us life bk
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Thank you thank you Liz, I totally agree, this is utterly disgusting, how dare they treat women in this manner, despicable really it is. I know that CBT can have it's place as I have used this in the past for anxiety, but not for Menopause, I use other complementary approaches to my own hormone struggle but the only thing that's made a real impact is the HRT, and I know it works because I am currently suffering again with awful insomnia, which I have linked back to using E45 cream for dry skin which as a barrier cream has stopped my gel absorption. It's thanks to the amazing work that Dr Louise Newson, yourself Liz and other amazing people that I became informed and empowered to begin my HRT journey. Us ladies really need to fight for our rights to feel as well as we can. I cannot understand the glib attitude to the savings that this will have for the NHS in the long-term, as women don't become ill with all of the serious complaints that you mentioned. Soo shortsighted of NICE. Should that stand for Not Informed Crappy Evidence!!!
Thanks for sharing ❤️
The National Institute for Cutting Expenditure 😮
Given a choice between talking about my symptoms and not having any symptoms, I'd opt for the latter. It's a no brainer!!!! X
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Brilliant response 💛
Thank you for speaking up about this. It’s an appalling way to treat women. Totally agree with everything you say.
Thanks for sharing ❤️
I've followed your info for years brilliant. Got your books and shared it with friends. I definitely need the hRT my mum and sister both had bad menopause and both had HRT so I knew I would be same. I had a good doctor who did a blood test at 47 said I was menopausal offered hrt
Thanks for sharing ❤️
Yes, men that are on viagra can do cognitive therapy. I'm not on perimenopause yet but I feel this is very insulting to women. Everybody knows menopause is hormonal problem so why use resources that can be uses by someone else who needs them? Thank you Liz for making us aware.
Thanks for sharing ❤️
Outrageous! Who actually compiles the NICE guidlines? They're the ones needing therapy!
They have info on their website here: www.nice.org.uk/about/what-we-do/our-programmes/nice-guidance/nice-guidelines/how-we-develop-nice-guidelines
Thank you so much for highlighting this Liz.
You're welcome ❤️
Hi Liz, thanks so much for highlighting this issue. I'm a 60 year young woman thinking about h.r.t. and if I thought my doctor would offer me cbt instead I would feel more than a bit confused. These new guidelines are definitely gaslighting women. Are we supposed to to feel that our symptoms are due to our ignorance and mismanagement? Are we supposed to feel shame for not coping? Are we supposed to just suck it up and get on with it because anything else is just a failure on our part? Is this 2023 or 1923?🤯 We all need to take action before this thinking becomes the norm affecting younger generations.
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Hear, hear, very well put Dr Newson👏👏👏👏
Her information is fantastic and I honestly don’t know what women would do without herself, You and Divina keeping us all updated on current issues regarding menopause. I’ve never followed the “NICE” guidelines for menopause since I began watching your videos and following you for a few years now as there’s no point, like you say a lot of it’s dated and is belittling to women playing down very serious symptoms. I’m still very unclear as to whether I’m able to take HRT due to having lots of cysts in my left breast because I was given a leaflet from the NHS after having some of them drained and it strongly advised against any HRT which was devastating for me. However, I’ve just recently managed to start a course of vaginal oestrogen to help with the dryness and painful inter course I’m experiencing so I’m hoping this will help for that area, however it doesn’t change my mood swings, tiredness and memory loss amongst many other symptoms I have but it’s a start hopefully on the right track. Thank you Liz for always sharing this information with everyone in you’re videos 😘👍
Here in the U.S. cysts are not even reported after a screening. My obgyn told me they are very, very, common and not to worry about them. It is so hard to be a women sometimes!!!!
Thanks for sharing ❤️
Thank you for sharing. I hope they change and start seeing women as intelligent people that are affected by hormones.
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Thanks Liz, well informed as always. I've written my personal account to the e-mail you mention, I'd add for those not on Newson Health newsletter to sign up for updates. Like many here I'm raging, I had to give it a couple of days to calm down enough to channel this into a constructive and coherent response, so well done for keeping it together Liz lol. Seriously, for all the strong voices out there, we clearly have some work left to do, every e-mail targeted at those with direct agency to make HRT as a first line treatment a reality is a small victory. I'm a walking textbook of self care, I did everything 'right', and low oestrogen and testosterone totally floored me. HRT was for me, like many others a lifeline.
Thank you for sharing this ❤️
Was given cbt for depression & anxiety didn't try it as it read it doesn't work
I saw a gynaecology consultant privately last year and chose her because she listed one of her areas of expertise as hrt.
She believed that women should take as little hrt as possible for as short a time as possible. I was taken off it- and horrified. GP followed her advice because she had to.
Now back on it with a different consultant but it was all very upsetting and distressing, it just showed me what a lottery it is getting access to it.
Sorry to hear of your experience but thank you for sharing ❤️
I was so angry when I heard this in the news. I’m sure talking is going to stop my 30+ hot flushes a day. 😡. I recently had an HRT review and my GP said perhaps I should try without for a few days to see if I’m still getting symptoms. I’ve been on HRT for three years and am now 60. I’m now into day five of not having a patch and have been getting 3 hot flushes an hour today! 😢. That patch is going back on now!
Sorry to hear this and thanks for sharing ❤️
Absolutely appalling to offer CBT as a treatment for menopause symptoms. I suffered from insomnia for nearly 17 years beginning in my 40s. My doctor only offered CBT or anti depressants. HRT was never mentioned. I was told to try acupuncture, reflexology or sleeping pills by my GP. Thankfully I refused sleeping pills. I tried everything holistic, CBT, acupuncture, reflexology , massage and anti depressants. Nothing worked! In 2023 I booked myself at Newson Health run by Dr Louise Newson for menopause issues and was put on HRT. Low and behold I no longer have insomnia! HRT and Dr Newson saved my life! Wasted 17 years of my life by not being offered HRT. I will never stop taking HRT!
Thanks for sharing your experience ❤️
Just a quick question if I could please? Are the features that Liz does with guests still being put onto RUclips? I can see the shorter vlogs such as this one but haven't seen a longer one for a few weeks?
Hello! After listening to our audience's feedback, some of these are and some of them aren't. But you can find them all on our Instagram account ❤️
Am absolutely disgusted with this. I have been struggling so much especially my mood etc. I am OK in hat I have started hrt, but I know it takes some time to adjust. I just feel that with this we are going backward. I really hope his changes. Thank you for highlighting.
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Thank you Liz. I had no idea about testosterone. Should women be taking that as I only take HRT and Progesterone?
We have articles on our website and podcasts on testosterone that may be helpful to you lizearlewellbeing.com/health/the-menopause/signs-low-testosterone-women/
Seems ….They want us to find private Drs ….much like we have to with Dentists….
Now if you think menopause is ignored…what until your through menopause…and over 60:….any issues are just age…and if you don’t need to work…you can sit at home with aches ..pains issues..worries etc.. I’ve friends on long waiting lists for new hips or gallbladder operations.
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This makes me 😡......!
my gyno put me forward for that therapy I've been waiting 3 yrs on the waiting list!
No one taking my oestragel gel off me😢, I hope This is not the government trying to cut back on hrt??
I suffer from sleeping anxiety and anxiety, itching crawling skin, u.t.i
Brain fog, tinnitus, aches snd pains.❤
Very frustrating - thanks for watching ❤️
I went through the menopause without HRT, I did have symptoms, in fact at 65 I still have hot flushes several times a day. I had mental health symptoms which were severe at times, but I wouldn’t have taken HRT, the risks of cancer are high enough as it is with one in two of us developing it, have seen too many women pass away with gynaecological and breast cancer in my own family and outside.
Hello, just to say, the risks of cancer are not high on HRT. The latest clinical studies show estrogen-replacement actually lowers the risk of developing breast cancer, as well as cutting the risk of colon cancer by a third, which is statistically highly significant. Unfortunately, 1 in 7 women in the UK will develop breast cancer (both those on HRT as well as those not on HRT). The health benefits of HRT for women peri-menopausal, menopausal and post-menopausal are vast - a 50% reduction in CHD (the biggest killer of women in the UK), osteoporosis, type-2 diabetes and more. I hope you are being helped with your daily hot flushes, there is more free information on our website (links above) and also on the free Balance menopause app which you might also find helpful. Liz
@@lizearlewellbeing there’s new information all the time, it was considered risky when I started more severe symptoms, back in my late 40’s. It’s interesting about heart disease, I looked at some information and if HRT is started early it has good preventative effects, no effects if started late, eg in your 60’s. I have some heart issues and it may have helped if I’d taken it, but too late now. The HF’s first started in 2001, so I barely remember a time when I didn’t have them. They were extreme for several years but still troublesome now and every day. I remember thinking to myself that the menopause would kill me it was so bad, and there has been a steady decline although I’m slim and active as possible. I hope my daughter and DIL have a better experience, they are just coming to an age where perimenopause isn’t far away.
Thank you for this video.
CBT would definitely not help me, I had a seemingly insignificant symptom of menopause which was a really dry mouth. However much water I drank or moisturising lipgloss I could not avoid biting my lips when eating due to low saliva. This meant I had a painful lump developing on my lip that never healed. Since taking HRT this has resolved totally along with the other more common symptoms. So how could a psychological therapy such as CBT resolve that ?
Thanks for sharing ❤️
GP'S are not interested they woukd rather give out antidepressants
Unfortunately this is often the case
How will CBT help a physical issue? It might a bit but really?? Osteoporosis, dry eyes, dryness leading to painful sex, UTIs, brain fog, memory loss, I had it all!
Hope you're getting the right support now ❤️
CBT for menopause is like putting a child’s plaster on a new caesarean wound
Menopause isn’t a time of either/or. Regardless of whether women are on HRT or not (dependent upon choice, preference or medical history) there’s still somatic processes that can make a huge difference to the way women are feeling. I personally don’t think CBT has any long lasting affect, however, there are other evidence based, alternative practices that can work alongside conventional medicine. We shouldn’t just be looking in one direction to support menopausal women, we should be looking towards new science and how we can support women on all levels.
Just want to say that after listening to your channel liz I went on hrt gel, found it good and increased it. Unfortunately it didn't suit me as I developed breast cancer. Obviously that was just my experience and I know most women would be fine with it. I'm just highlighting the risk as well. ❤
I think its also important to not automatically suggest that HRT was the reason for this. I am also a cancer survivor ( not breast cancer), so I understand what a scary time it can be. I just think that there are so many complex factors in the development of cancer and we really have to not be too quick to pin the cause on something when we simply don't have that as factual information. Hope things go well for you with your treatment 🙏
Hello Pauline, I am so very sorry to hear you have breast cancer and hope you are being successfully treated, as the vast majority of women are. Statistically, 1 in 7 women in the UK will develop breast cancer, so that's 1 in 7 women on HRT and 1 in 7 women not on HRT. Breast cancer takes many years to develop, often 3-4 years for even a small lump or tumour to become detectable, so it is something we're likely to have had for a significant length of time before it gets picked up. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment here. I have recorded many resources with breast cancer oncologists who continue to prescribe HRT for women with breast cancer, but this does very much need to be an individualised approach. I hope you find these helpful too. XLiz
Thank you liz for your informative reply. You are such a help to us all. My treatment was successful so thank God I am cancer free. ❤
@yasmindavidson5171 Hi Yasmin, thank you, that's very true. All well again ❤
So, with menopause, my vagina narrowed so severely that I couldn’t have smear tests, couldn’t stand the agony of sex, and my urethra was falling apart so I had a really uncomfortable bladder and feelings of UTI a lot of the time. Oh, and I could hardly walk, think, or smile, and was drowning in sweat at night.
Yeah, sure, CBT is going to help with that lot sooo much. NOT!
What fixed all of this, is HRT.
Thank you for sharing ❤️
Furious is too mild a word for what I think. Is cognitive behavioural therapy going to get rid of physical symptoms like vaginal atrophy 😡
Unlikely! ❤️
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I can NOT function without my HRT , it’s been a life saver , I talk to my daughters about it all the time and my son , as my partner (male ) has no interest in supporting me , it’s a women thing he says !!,, .Every time I chat to him we have a row , I think some men of his generation can’t cope .I’m teaching my son , hoping his a new generation , about supporting his wife in the future.
Anybody else out there struggle to talk to their partner , without conflict , or is it just me ?😢
We have an article on our website that might be helpful to you lizearlewellbeing.com/health/the-menopause/support-your-partner-menopause/ ❤️
Very disapointing, we continue the fight, women we are strong and we will be our best healthy selves. Stand up and claim your right to have proper care and support.
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I personalky think NICE have lost the plot! So many women have had to battle to get their HRT and this is a step backwards. Wonder if it is linked to the fact that women now get a reduction on the cost? Are they trying to save money?!
Disappointed. When will menopause symptoms be taken seriously? Thankfully nowadays more and more women are talking about this subject so hopefully the less taboo it becomes the more likely it is to be acknowledged and treated accordingly. Surely there’s been sufficient evidence to show that many serious health issues are as a result of reduced hormone levels ?.I am 62 still get flushes,insomnia and brain fog,HRT not prescribed due to family history of breast cancer and my own benign tumour and cysts . I hope by the time my granddaughter gets to her menopause that treatments and medication will be freely accessible and women better understood.
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Ladies your not on your own with these symptoms and issues them lovely perps at NICE say its an issue for trans and non binary too. Speak to your CBT counsellor for 1 hour a week for 6 weeks anout that !! Nice !!!
Nobody cares when you get old you are invisible 😢
Sending hugs if you feel like this ❤️