Warriors of Chaos vs Lizardmen Warhammer Fantasy Battle Report - Old World Wars Ep 65
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
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Leland plays his first game of Warhammer Fantasy with his Warriors of Chaos, against Steve and his Lizardmen.
The combat rez at the 48 min mark is wrong. Those liz warriors are no longer in combat so the resolve should have only taken the wound that the lizard did against the giant and the flank charge of those knights. Which meant the knights won by one.
Basic stuff that shouldn't have been messed up...
Jonathan Holt Yeah, was thinking the same. It felt like a stretch for the Lizardman player to argue that the Saurus still were in battle...
PRANCING GEORGE THE GIANT AND HIS ARMOR OF LOVE!
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!! XDDDDDDDD
that combat at 48 with the giant, salamander, and dreadnaughts was so broken and was completely messed up.
“We’ll have more fun in 9th edition” - well that aged poorly 😭
A demon prince actually does not have the eye of the gods rule. So no need to challenge and no roll on the table for winning a challenge.
The Chaos player really made this game fun. George with the "armor of love" was awesome. Just a quick note, the daemon prince didn't have to make a test to redirect. He charges the fleeing unit and then overruns into the 2nd unit whether he catches the fleeing unit or not. Also, I'm not sure the salamander could have charged the giant, the other salamander unit was in the way at the time.
You know, I really like the spirit the game is played with. It makes it much more fun to watch
Would love to see you guys try a Fantasy campaign at some point.
That Salamander for MVP right there XD Great battle report!
I love this series but of late it seems the batreps are very poorly lit. Hasn't always been the case. Are you shirking on the extra lights? I highly recommend adding a few becauae its extremely hard to enjoy the beautifully paintined minis with all the dim vids. Keep em coming!
Jesus, that demon prince is an absolute monster.
Some advice, don't run warrior blocks of more than 24 unless you are doing games of like 3000 points or more, and if you do, don't run them in ranks of only five, you have hitting power, man! Especially with halberds! You should cram in as many str 5 hits you can get! I typically run my dudes in blocks of 20 or 18 in ranks of 6 so I don't have half of my army points in one tasty unit. Also daemon princes are large targets, so inspiring presence goes up to 18 inches, don't put points into a juggernaught champ because you have to challenge and will lose a third of your attacks to a single skeleton champion. Also you should at least invest in a ward save for your bsb, if not the standard of discipline for +1 LD, because if you had that than you BSB would have only taken one wound and would have been fine. And yes skullcrushers w/ banner is a mistake. Also invest in a chimera, not giant, they are killier, and can get armor and 4+ regen. Also you totally botched that combat at the end. You screwed up the modifiers, and you forgot that you let +1 toughness go off, so you would have wounded on 4s not threes. If those chaos warriors were WS 5, then blizzarded, they would have needed 4s with modifiers to weapon skill included because temple guard and warriors were both -1 WS, and last but not least, ya should have brought a tzeentch daemon man, you would have made that save at the end. Lore of metal all the way. Especially when fighting lizards... PHEW! I'm done... Finally... Despite all of this it really was a fun game to watch. Good first go for a player, you probably would have won if the dice hadnt screwed you over so much
I agree with everything you said.
Except Daemon Princes are not large targets.
This has been my favourite post-Ash OWW. Steve seemed to be having a good time and Leland seems to be a nice guy, hope to see more of him in the series.
Skull Crushers have devastateing charge so the riders would be sitting at 13 attacks, and the beasts have 3 attacks each
Great battle report, Leland and Steve, you are two funny guys! at 36:30 you missed the re-rolls for hatred though, because of the 'raaargh' you rolled for the salamander ;). also, more George!
At the 29 min. mark, that sally that rallied wouldn't be able to move away.
I love how he affected the outcome of the dice by covering it with his hand, when he was rolling to save the Prince's last wound from Skink poison darts at 1:05:50! I would TOTALLY call for a re-roll if I were the Lizardmen player. The dice hadn't stopped moving!
Why didn't you maximize models in that giant combat? He should have been in contact with a LOT more Temple Guard. And that Salamander wouldn't have been blocking the skullcrushers charge lane (although technically they shouldn't have been there due to frenzy, you addressed this though)
EDIT: and on turn 3 you should have helped out the giant by charging the warriors into the temple guard; the daemon prince was doing just fine against those saurus
AND CHALLENGE WITH THE SORCERER SO THE DAEMON PRINCE CAN MURDER THE UNIT!
isnt it a panic on the three units that the salamander fled through?
John Ford Ld 10, rerolling, I think they're all fine
While it didn't actually happen, you mentioned that should the Demon Prince charge the Salamander and then subsequently overrun into the Saurus, he would get to fight a second round of combat. That is incorrect. He would only get to fight a second round of combat if the Saurus unit was already engaged in close combat (which they were not) and hadn't resolved its combat this turn.
weird without ash right?
Rainthesis84 what happened with ash i missed this
Cato solo gaming Left/let go. He's got his own channel/business that he is starting with another former MWG person.
Dan Bellinger do you happen to know the name of the channel?
TheSpartanUnderURBed Guerrilla Miniature Games - He's had that channel for a while I think but he's more active there now and has some info on what is coming.
Dan Bellinger I can't believe MWG didn't have any kind of Noncompete contract. Seems pretty short sighted.
That salamander is gonna stay there and do salamander things lmao!
We need some Beastman love. DOOMBULL MUST KILL!
Beastmen !!!! I thought i was the only one
Kenji1271 I think beastmen is one of the codexes being cut out of next edition. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
ps. I too love beastmen! Way cooler than deamons.
bkLEGION3000 I hope they aren't beening cut out completely. I don't find any other army interesting in fantasy. Elves are elves, Dwarves are Dwarves Orks play the same in every game. I liked that aspect of non demon looking chaos units. I will be really sad if they are taken out.
Tzeentchbull with 3+ ward!
Can’t wait to see y’all move over to 9th! It’s gonna be really cool and exciting to see GW release a new edition...,
You are providing some excellent Warhammer entertainment! Thank you very much for that!!! Would be great if you could bring a 2000 points match with WOODELVES, please!
And then I thought about the falling template from the Giant? I have never tried playing a giant, but I thought the fun thing about him, is that tempalte when he dies?? That would have made the Skulls stayed maybe, if the kills count towards combat res...
Dude Fly units use 3 dices for charge, and same to BloodCr
At about 23:30 I see that they count mark of nurgle as a plus 1 to toughness where it is actually -1 to hit in close combat. I believe that plus 1 toughness is in 40k, but i don't play
Can the background music be turned down just a tad bit?
I think it's a bit too loud.
Jomppexx Speak up you are too quiet
I like watching your WFB games, makes me want to go back to the hobby :>
Long time since i have seen a warriors of chaos batrep. Nice video😀👍
Does the +3 to the combat res. still counts against the Juggernaut even if it comes from the ranks of Temple Guards?
Wouldn't it be just wound+charge on a flank from the Salamander against charge, flank, wound and standard for a total of 4-2 in favour of Juggernaut?
I mean, they are in a diffferent combat!
And i'm not sure about this one but:
aren't the Juggernaut some sort of cavalry monsters so they had 1 rank more than the Salamander (cause monsters infantry just needs 3+ models to form 1 rank)? So weren't they stubborn?
Ignazio Fortelli Page 61 BRB. No more foes.
Any combat result points that unit would have added to the fight for wounds inflicted are still counted for the fight's overall combat resolution, but other bonuses, such as standards, charges and so on. are not. Note that such a unit cannot cancel out steadfast in an enemy
Need 2 rank for +1 to combat resolution. But yeah jugs should be stubborn.
C0unt The point is that they are, when the Giant died, out of combat. They are not in combat with the Juggers by the end of that combat (since what connected the combats is gone, the giant died), and thus unable to give their bonuses to the salamander...
DeusArchaon indeed, salamander get 1 for wound caused to giant and juggernauts 3 for charge, flank and banner. Salamaner need to pass rerollable 8 ld.
***** Yeah, that too, if the giant happens to fall towards the unit :)
George didn't roll for his "falling" tests a single time... he was supposed to roll for falling each time he loses a combat before makng the breaking test.
Very nice videos guys, and as always, well played. Like!
Greetings from Spain!
i know this is kinda a weird video to put this comment on but, i want to ask a question about the war zone aphois or whatever its called. i wanted to ask if you guys could use battle fleet Gothic to do any space battles that would happen within the sector?
3+3+4+4 ... Total of 20, made me laugh haha
the salamer thing. I belive use's artillery dice not a D6....when using its range attack. Also around 1:01 the C.Warriors that failed armor saves should have got a parry save of 6+
galwaymadman101 no parrys w halbred right?
ah didn't know figured he was using sword and board. opps
haha, that was a fun one
Hey does anyone know what colour schemes are on those saurus warriors? I'm trying to begin a lizardmen army and love this paint job!
I like watching their reports but it is always the same armies. When Ash was there he had his dwarfs and Steve always has Lizardmen, maybe high elves in the earlier videos. Switch it up PLEASE. Skaven or Beastmen (while we still have them) would be nice.
you need to declare all your charges first and then roll them, not roll a charge and if you make it charge with something else
4:41 Mark of Slaanesh? He is probably a servant of the Dark Prince since he prances into battle.
Lots of errors but I enjoyed this game. The daemon prince was epic as heck. Definitely getting one for my WoC now.
where is ash havent seen him in any videos for a while
He was let go. He's got his own channel If you look up some of the other BR with him he's in the comments. His channel looks like it has potential.
MrBizteck he was "let go" as in he was fired or he left on his own to start his own thing?
Not sure, but he has a new channel Gurrillaminiturewargames ( wrong spelling)
He was let go. MWG generally has no issue with employees having their own channels and Ash had his channel for some time before he and MWG parted ways. He was doing other things there (Infinity and Malifaux for example).
Since he was let go though he will be involved in these games as well (WHFB/WH 40k and Warmachine). In fact he ran a successful indiegogo campaign and got funded for setting up a new studio to collaborate with other people to produce battle reports etc. (including Owen for example).
George is love George is life?
27:50 how are you not disrupted? you dont have a ranks as you look from the direction the deamon prince attacked, you had unit 4 wide, and for a rank you need 5 :)
Apperantly dynamite is stuck to all banners
heres a good question, where is ash? and did he take his groovy high def camera with him? lol
***** He was let go. Has his own channel in the works. Guerrilla Miniature Games
the warriors look like they should have been stubborn so shouldn't have run away
at about 33 why did he let him have a big turn and not try to stop anything
Hero Salamander eats his crew and then gets mad.
its very risky having a standard bearer on a juggernaut if the unit runs thats a 65 point guy gone
92bagder Bit of dick move against a newbie, but never charge if you can't maximize is the lesson we learn from all this....and no banner on juggs.
92bagder That was a very angry lizard there though
92bagder If you think that's bad you've not seen gorbad ironclaw, one of the most expensive characters OnG have and a standard bearer. Must suck seeing him explode.
He has an okay list but some nurgle gorebeasts would make it even better
The armor of LOVE
how did the salamander rally and move and shoot in one turn.
You forgot the falling giant rule
*sigh* do you ever remember psychology tests....?
guys seriously there are a lot of wrong things about the rules. and also the WoC player made so many mistakes
Marcos Meneses its like his first game...
oohhhh.... that's a good reason... but i still hope watch a good WoC player.
Am I hearing the TR theme music from Planetside 2?
Does anyone know how I can go about painting lizardmen cold ones?
Will there be more Altdorf in Flames?
28:30, bastilodon fails charge and goes 10", wrong, fails charge, goes 4". basic rules.
Mulligan Drake 28:40 salamander charges giant, wrong, giant must maximise therefore no front showing, salamader in frontal arc, cannot charge flank. also could not charge cos other slamander in the way, 1 wheel only.
Mulligan Drake It was also tactically not a great move, (the bastilodon one)
Mulligan Drake 47:35 where to begin...
Mulligan Drake 1:09:04 WoC were steadffast having 2 ranks against lizards 1.
Leland fielded the Oprah of Demon Princes
Why a priest of nurgle? Don't lizard men have a natural resistance to disease, or is that just the fluff and not the game?
+Southerly93 that is just in their like law that their homeland of Lustria is full of poison and now their used to it.
Also, how long ago was this? Because Steve actually has hair again!
Not played quite to the rules. Still fun to watch though.
btw
LETS SEE SOME LEGION OF CHAOS!!!
Juggernauts/ Skull crushers
Steve needs to learn to get the dice rolls in camera. Good report, terrible camera work.
btw... is that really right? the demon prince issued a challenge, the slann accepted it... must the unit the character is attached to (the lizardmen) really not participate in the fight?? yeah, its a challenge... but on the other hand... they just stand by and look?
+phelyks that's how it works.. when heroes are fighting a challenge, the unit doesn't mess because it's not honorable.. or something
+fabian carcamo ah. well... ok... thanks for clarifying that!
u're welcome!
So much wrong u forgot at the first combat that the Giant did haved the spell that maked -1 Kg and -1Iniative so he he has got 2 live points over and not 1.
Jugs has 3 attack eachs??
Anders Lundtoft indeed
No George!
juggernauts wouldn´t run ! -> 3 ranks + 2 banners +1 wound + 1 flank = 7 vs +1 charge + 1 juggerbanner + 2 wound + 1 flank = 5 so lost by 2, rolled 6 on the 8 leadership = tie combat because both mage musician
deamon prince gets the saurusblock -> destroyed where they stand! (page 56) so he wouldn´t go 11 inches !
since no one is doing it... i will
HISS!
not sure about this report. a very experienced player vs a very inexperienced player. I just wasn't fun seeing the inexperienced player make little mistakes and them not being pointed out and corrected on camera. It makes annoying watching because i thought chaos was actually out deployed and the eventual result was due to mistakes that could have easily been fixed mid game (on camera) such as missing that the warriors should have been steadfast. also the skull crushers not overrunning worked out perfectly for steve because he didn't have frenzied knights in his rear turn 4. any who ...
Chaos giants suck, Juggernauts took that first skink unit down in one hit pretty powerful
Me and sasuke , tease you ha ha !
Good gaming
God game lizradmen
13 WHAT?!?!? LOL😆🤣😂
There's no +1 CR for charging down a hill anymore...
That was older editions
you wasted points on a giant
you dont sound like a fire breathing fat dragon when you turn the speed up 1.5
You sound like a wonderful person...
Really dudes? Really sucks this game
Paulo Pinto syntax really sucks too eh?
+Paulo Pinto Oy shut the fuck up, if you can't write correctly in he language don't open your mouth especialy if it's for insulting people in your fucking spanish rigth after that.