Congratulations; you'll get the top next time :D I enjoy the in-depth explanations, speaking on the thought process is great insight. Love ya man. Piri reis is great. I've tried 3 Spirit since it is good vs tenpai in theory. But in practice Tenpai always makes the lvl 10 disabling effects in the battle phase. Fenrir feels good rn. The simplified "Nobody could play and we are just looking at each other with multiple handtraps" game state happens too often this format. Bricking is the no.1 issue with Yubel decks in general imo. Playing less bad draws is the way. Best of luck, keep it up and have a good one!
I can’t believe I agree so much with this, congrats on the top, I can see this changing slightly with phantom, but having issues with droll in the future. Terror is def going need to come back though so you can access phantom more frequently.
Congrats on your top, you'll get 1st place next time for sure! I really really love the way you make deck profiles man pls don't stop Also I think the the reason people play 3 spirit is because it could help vs tenpai attacking you but yeah until we get phantom i think 2 spirit is optimal
I saw the map and I was like"why the hell dont ppl play this?" After the new support I never saw it again and ive seen yubel player brick a lot. I dont even play the deck but ive played a lot against it and this list just seems better than what most people play.
Map is so fun to play forces the opponent to ash you don't lose life 😂 but if they let you you get combo starters it makes me laugh when they ash say I lose life and you tell them no because you stopped it then go triple to draw into more combo
- 4k LP makes it extremely easy to get OTKed - Makes the deck lose even harder to Droll, especially after siding. - Has to be the very first move and you have to commit the normal summon on the search, so you can't get extenders like Squirmer down the line if you already opened one of your 6 Beckoning or 3 Lotus - Yubel matches can easily go to time, so you can't reliably play this on game 3 due to the LP difference Prosperity even for 3 has the potential to fix your hand (although not guaranteed), but its ability to be used later in the turn as well as grabbing any engine or even non-engine makes it vastly superior.
@@babrad - If they OTK on 4000, they were OTKing on 8000. Either you build a board or you lose. That's current YuGiOh an overwhelming majority of the time. - Droll was not very played in this format. All eyes on pure snake eye / tenpai. You can also still make a board if you got samsara+squirmer - You'll actually have squirmer far more often thanks to map, because now your throne isn't as reliant on getting your beckoning/samsara - Yubel matches going to time? Play faster I guess lol, I never went to time all day and the regional before this, I also never went to time. If you play this like a combo deck rather than a skill drain flood deck, your games go fast. Fiendsmith might change this, but current version hell nah - Prosperity is cool too, yes, but if you fully utilize your extra deck, you can barely ever prosp for 6... and it plays into droll just as much as piri does.
Loving to see the triple reis map , i eventually cut mines to 1 for stuff like for main deck called by the grave and nightmare pain, i also don't mind main deck belle because you can still belle snake eyes with they go wanted in draw phase and for times they cant chain block you with flamberge and poplar. Overall good list and congrats on making top 32 , i think Yubel at this point is just player preference with most deck choices , like i also love the train package for simple game state wins and winning in time.
Wow what a nice QCR Nightmare Throne! I wonder what handsome devil he obtained it from! Anyway reducing the bricks legit makes this look like something I want to play. You lucked out not getting top cut anyhow, would've broken my heart to have seen you queue into 3 stun players in a row.
This might sounds stupid but what is the second spirit of yubrl for? In the grind you will not need it right? And if you happen to draw it squirmer and friend can get it out of the hand so isnt it better so see it 10% less often by having only one?
Very well thought list, finally someone else that sees the deck at its potential. I will try some of your suggestions for sure (still on the fence about cutting terror incarnate tho, I’ve tried without it and did not like how you had more choke points during combos). One thing I’ll ask you is why don’t you play knightmare griffin. It’s a very good line into nib, tenpai and snake eye if you get interrupted. I think it comes up more often than hita after trying both of them, and I like amblowhale too for the princess line.
Love your list man, what’s your thoughts on playing cross sheep moving forward with phantoms I saw u are thinking of citing abom and djinn from the list for phantoms?
I like the Pris map. I hadn’t considered it and it seems insane as a starter card. I’ve been playing Nightmare Gryphon over the Abomination because I just make that against Tenpai and they need to draw the out or they lose it always feels like, plus if they destroy something, Yama can always just bring it back. Would love to see a combo video or even just some test hand play through with your list. Had never considered not playing the lvl 11 Yubel even when I brick on that horrible draw. My only other thing is that I really like Nightmare Pain, I could see myself cutting it to 2, but even in a simplified game state, it always felt like my opponent would focus on that card, and try to remove that before anything else, and it always seems to make them play super awkwardly even if I don’t even have Yubel on field lol. Good video and I hope to see more Yubel content!
- I love Gryphon vs tenpai but my big issue with it has been that tenpai tends to hand trap so much, we struggle reaching it... The amount of non engine they throw at us, endlessly simplifies our board until we just don't reach gryphon, so I gave up making it. You are right that it's the best end board piece vs tenpai if we actually get to it though - Not playing the 11 has been great , it's been out of my list for a long time now and I haven't missed it - I understand people play awful into nightmare pain sometimes, but I just don't feel it's correct to over-index on a card that mostly pays off when our opponents fumble... and 99% of the time, pain will be on my board anyway cuz our combo just looks for it. It's really not the end of the world.
Just keep in mind that piri fetching beckoning/samsara means your throne can get squirmer to play around hand traps. It's a world of a difference when playing through HT, as well as having more starters in general :)
A little late seeing this but can you explain what your end board is then? I’m having a hard time seeing apo and varudras made in addition to the unchained stuff here
You make rage out of yama + a random body (like beckoning beast), you activate squirmer in gy (cuz you made yama out of yubel + squirmer) to summon spirit. Sharvara pop spirit, yama cl1 spirit cl2 to summon both spirit + Yubel. You use gates to revive the beckoning beast, you turn sharvara + beckoning beast into knightmare phoenix. The spirit and yubel go into varu. The knightmare phoenix and the rage go into apo.
"Ceiling Increase" is a new way I've heard of "Win More" cards. I do agree you reduced the bricks heavily, might be one of/best list for minimal bricking. I keep going back and forth between 2-3 Spirits, and I might go back to trying 2. I've found I do enjoy/need the 3rd copy in some games, but I think I might try 2 again. But, I think you've cut a lot of power and grind game from the deck and I'm not sure I agree that's the direction the deck should go, at least until we get Fiendsmith. Once we get those, I agree completely aside from maybe Terror thanks to Phantom. But-but, I can't disagree with much of anything in this list (Fenrir, Pain, and kind of Terror at most) and understand everywhere you're coming from. I think you and Trinity probably have made the best Yubel lists, and they're very different which is really cool. I do have a bias towards Trinity's lists since it's almost identical to the list I made on my own accord, with the only differences being fun cards (or cards I can't afford/don't wanna spend money on. Who needs ninja waifus when you have a yellow unicorn). I do like having some grind game, which is mainly what the 2nd Pain is for. I do think you're underestimating Pain's damage, I agree it's not the primary win con the deck should be aiming for. But it can do a lot with and without Gustav. I'll also just say, I'm glad Accesscode got reprinted for cheap, Liebe was my budget alternative at first and by god is Accesscode so much better.
Honestly I've been testing a lot with yubel lately and I've also decided that running multiple copies of nightmare pain just feels soooooo bad... dropping it down to 2 and making space for piri reis map feels a lot better, but I'm still pretty adamant on keeping terror incarnate. A lot of my combo lines with throne or spirit gates involve terror incarnate and since I have 13 ways to get to throne/spirit gates that's pretty good odds for me. Also now that phantom is out terror incarnate becomes less of a brick, and you can use piri reis map to search terror incarnate since you never use its effects anyways to make a phantom with material in your hand if you already have combo available.
I feel you on that second varudras. Sometimes I think about running Bystials just to banish my varudras so I can recycle it with mature but it’s one of those gamestates where you are probably up I would imagine so it may not be worth it or come up.
Very interesting list. I’ve been playing tubes for about a month now. Have cut spirit to 2 and pain to 2 and has felt good but maybe pain to 1 is the play. Cutting terror is really interesting because like you said it really only ups the ceiling of the combo with throne and nothing else. I’m really interested to see combos… is samsara just end of apollousa with rage in gy? Then beconing plus samsara should be hiita, varudras and princess and rage in gy correct? I really might consider cutting terror it makes a lot of sense. However when phantom comes out I think you need it to use as material for phantom as part of the combo. The maps are an interesting tech. I haven’t really felt like I’ve been bricking all that much. One for one I think is just bad. Going second you shouldn’t have any hand traps left to use and it’s just a minus one so idk I cut it and haven’t missed it. I’ve been switching back and forth between Ferris and cross out both have felt okay. Cross out in theory for this deck is great because the idea is if I can push my combo through I win. I also want to add a second Yama that seems to come up alot. The abom is a nice option haven’t seen that in many lists. I still play gryphon I mean mainly for tenpai but also ftks branded, and also can make other link decks have to play super awkwardly. Access code has been amazing tho. Nothing better that anguish link their guy into access code. I do also really like the breaker approach in the side. Great video brother keep it up and would love more Huber content I really like your perspective on the game.
- 2 pain can be fine if you expect 0 droll so you can cut mature altogether.. I just saw too much droll still in sides/mains to feel secure without mature - samsara is just apo+rage in gy, yes. Beckoning+samsara can be a lot of different things - piri has felt crucial.. it's that or pot. without piri, it's not that the deck bricks THAT much but it's more-so that you're scooping to hand traps way more - it's true that when phantom comes out, terror makes certain combos way better, but I'm not convinced yet that it'll be required.. I'll obviously test it before making a final choice - I agree one for one can be odd going second, I always side it out going second, but I really like the gas it provides going first - my problem with crossout is that it's shit going second and it requires you to play bad hand traps in virtually every matchup... Being forced to play nib, ogre, droll, belle... feels really bad, cuz every single hand trap can technically hurt us - I liked gryphon vs tenpai in theory, but then as I played the matchup more, I noticed they tended to hand trap us so hard we almost never got to the gryphon Thank you!
@@solemnyugioh there actually isnt much droll where I play i think everyone just cut it completely because its shit vs fire and tenpai. Isnt map just more copies of beckoning, throne, samsara? So in theory how does that really help you play through hand traps? Does even having both beckoning and samsara play through and imperm if you dont have spirit gates? Side note anoyone not play 3 gates is crazy thats like the best card in the deck. But yeah 1 imperm on your normal summon without gates or grave squirmer is just a pass. But love the inovation with the deck. I was never on suepr poly from the beginning and everyone at locals would look at me sideways when I say i dont play super poly. And im like nah you dont need it cards bad and theres no extra deck room.
@@solemnyugioh also vs tenpai if they hand trap you so much that you cant get to gryphon you just lose no matter what but when you do get there its auto win. Especially if you keep sharvara in hand and yama in grave. Even droplet wont save them
Good profile and congrats on the top!! but i have a few things to say : I hear people often say that the princess is a win more card - i disagree. The princess has multiple uses and can help you because its generic to put up good interruptions while your yubel engine has been stopped or you didnt draw any from the beginning. Its not only useable if you achieve full combo. 1 Dark beckoning beast can push princess out while you dont lose anything. you still have rage and everything else. also its about resilience against a lot of boardbreaker. Dark ruler/Droplet and all sort of cards like that are good against the deck. it doesnt matter how strong your endboard is or if its a Peusdo-FTK - if one or two blowout cards can potentially kill the deck. thats the reason why decks like mannadium have a hard time to show dominance! the princess really helps in my opinion and in my topping decklist i used - it performed well! I can understand your arguments for terror incarnate but not only is it a valid card in the combo - also in the grindgame/simplified gamestate where you and your opponent both handtrapped each other to death - having the ability from a singular yubel to be able to float into the next one really can put the opponent in a difficult position. (Example situation, there are also a few other cases of course) Its not a card to be only evaluated in the full combo imo. but one of the better arguments for terror is : Tenpai. They often use cards like moonlight dragon (Bounce) or the Timelord that banishes all the monsters. Nightmare throne is a game changer in that situations - only if you have terror tho. other than that i like that you put a lot of thought into the deck and tried to fit in your own style of play - im always a fan of that!
Hi there! - Yeah, I'm also a fan of princess. The fact that beckoning becomes a real board because of her, is really nice. I used her a lot during the tourney. That said, once phantom/fiendsmith drops, she's still an obvious cut. But she did her job until that point hha. - I'm well aware there's more to terror than just the combo, but those fringe situations were not enough for me to want to play it. I feel Yubel already needs to play a fair few bricky cards (yubel, spirit, pain, etc..) that I really wanted to trim the fat, even if it meant making the deck weaker in odd situations. My hands are super cracked 24/7 because there's not nearly as many mid draws. That being said, once phantom drops, having that extra yubel name does become more intruiging. I'll definitely need to test that. Keep up the great content !
@@solemnyugioh you make fair points! i think currently if you hyperfixate on the consistency then its possible to cut terror and still perform good. (like you did!) for me personally ive experienced those niche situations too often to cut terror, at the end of the day a lot comes down to players preference i think :) im hyped to see how the yubel decks will evolve in the future! again : Congrats on the top, you did good!
What I've gathered from watching a lot of these Yubel deck profiles (from folks like yourself, Trinity, etc) is that Konami ultimately failed in making the "intended" Yubel theme (the Yubel forms, Nightmare Pain, Super Poly, and so on) playable. But they did make combo pieces that can be slotted into a Fiend Link engine.
Congrats on the top. Interesting. I would honestly never play the deck like this because to me you’d be clogged up with redundant hands and really have to hope your non engine gets you there. I think the “Timmy” style of the deck is just much more resilient versatile in its lines. Opening at 3 is insane because there are times the 2nd one does literally nothing since you can’t activate it because of the mandatory add. I’ll probably move to something closer to this when fiendsmith comes out but for now I’ll take the billions of two card combos the deck provides that help it play through handtraps
You’re not clogged with redundant hands. The extra good 1 card starters just play through ht way better. Pain is not doing anything when beck/samsara gets stopped unless you draw exactly pain+spirit. Veiler or imperm will pass your turn way more often when you run limited gates and every good deck runs 6... This means most of your games, beckoning will be impermed. You need punishes for that. It’s also the best follow-up in the deck and plays through boards way better. Also remember any time piri gets you beck or samsara, throne can now get squirmer to play through 1 more ht. You also need this non engine (if not more) or you stand no chance against snake eye. Yubel engine cards will never break properly piloted fire boards.
The reason is that the effect of the beast searches a spell (Spirit Gates) that can make you discard a card and special summon a fiend wirh 0 ATK and 0 DEF from Graveyard. Also you have an additional normal summon. It also baits out handtraps. I hope it helped.
If you open Beckoning, you get Gates, they get Beckoning (2 fiend monsters) If you open Gates, you get Beckoning, it gets another Gates (1 fiend monster) That way you cant do the regular Yama play or Closed Sky because even with Almiraj (a non fiend so Yama isn't happening) you still miss a body for Closed Sky. Additionally it's a lvl1 so you can use a free Phantom (lvl9) to go into a quick Chaos Angel going second.
In the most common varudras lines, there comes a point where your board is: rage, sharvara and 2 level 10s. You need to link off the rage and sharvara into a fiend because you're fiend locked to break the lock before making varudras. Every single fiend monster that does anything is dark, opening up your board to getting super poly'd to sleep, whilst also not providing any additional interruptions. Meanwhile linking off rage + sharvara into pricess here, leads to an end board of hiita/duelittle+amblo+varudras (with rage in gy+chamber set) meaning the board is not super poly'able (not that the card is good right now) AND having an interrupt that doesn't lose to breakers (princess)
considering fenrir too, been trying options for when tenpai goes Lstorm + droplet + summoning and none of your cards do anything anymore. maybe siding escape for that matchup instead of chamber, though you still lose it to the storm
13:48 you said the Fenrir play pushes through handtraps with Muckraker you play through but you can’t summon non fiends after you use its effect. So no Varudras or Apo
Ah, I see someone has decided to play fiend link and not yubel for once. Congrats on getting far with the deck. I like how this deck is more consistent then the yubel deck that people are playing right now. I do wonder if the lvl 11 yubel will be required when we get the new fusion but that's for future testing. We aren't even sure we are getting it anyway unless its been confirm and I wasn't aware. kinda wish there's a better way to deal with stun. Maybe when we get fiendsmith there will be.
To be honest ima give this a try i agree im tired of setting traps and bricking to see feather duster and then they see the super poly my freinds are even playing winter cherries in tenpai to yank defender out this will shock them
Salamangreat g1 doing massive board while I had only engine , g2 me bricking on fenrir pass Purrely spright g1 doing their FTK level board, then g2 me doing my FTK level board, then they g3 doing their own FTK level board again. Both losses pretty un-interactable overall. The curse of only playing 12 hand traps in a format where you should be on 15-18, but Yubel doesn't really have the luxury.
I dont necessarily think the main yubel stuff people normally use is all that bad at all. Plus Droplet is INSANE for Nightmare Throne if you run incarnate. That being said, i love the fusions but dont hate this list. I think it speaks to the strength of the deck to have so many play styles for Yubel.
@@solemnyugiohthanks. Do you plan on doing any combo videos for this list? Curious to see some of the lines through hand traps and without terror incarnate in general
Super poly is just not good this format. The melodious board floats back, the voiceless voice floats back and the snake eye board does not give a damn either. Super poly can be crazy in certain formats, but this format is not one of them. Also no player with half a brain will let a yubel monster hit the board, so loving defender is off the table. We are not breaking snake eye boards with breakers unless the snake eye player sucks, which means hand traps is the way.
@solemnyugioh would you be able to possibly do a combo video for this build? This is probably the best Yubel build I've seen in awhile, but I gotta see the end boards without using terror
Nightmare Pain bad card is quite possibly one of the worst takes I've ever heard, though I do agree that when fiendsmith hits people will probably only play one. Dealing double damage and forcing your opponent to either remove the spell or play around it has insane value, and its just got a broken ass once per turn. There is also a point to playing two as it makes it hard/near impossible to remove both from the board. Also, if you still don't play terror after Phantom you are simply wrong because it stops being a brick card.
The best deck in the format plays knightmare phoenix and has endless link bodies... Removing a nightmare pain is easy as hell when we got hand trapped to sleep. And if our full board is there, they're not breaking it anyway, so realistically, nightmare pain is never doing anything in that matchup. We either have a board and autowin or we don't have a board and auto-lose. There is no real in-between in this format. As for terror: Going -2 from hand just to make phantom sounds awful. That is not why terror may become required once phantom drops. The real reason terror may become really important when phantom drops, is that terror may be the required yubel name to shuffle back when you still need your spirit and yubel to be revived for varudras. But that will require more testing.
That would require me to play 2 really mehh cards that only work when my opponent leaves an actual empty board? Like obviously when my opponent bricks on blue eyes, I can OTK (assuming I play the mehh trains). And if my opponent puts up a 3000atk blue eyes, I can OTK (cuz it's yubel), but I need a way to OTK that involves the "in between" game states. Where I interrupted so much the end board is 1 diabellstar or there's a half board I clear as I play and then I can OTK but there's no clean 3000 atk monsters left... Obviously there's random mehh cards you can slam into your extra for the specific situations. My issue is that there seemingly aren't clean lines that apply to a majority of board states (like snake eye has with the zealantis line). The best line is the anguish-accesscode line with varudras. But it's still not a perfect solution given it doesnt work when you went through varu
@@solemnyugioh respect to the placement but there are other lists out that have performed better than this, you’re overly focused on snake eyes when that genuinely is an easy match up for us and lost sight of rogue match ups which caused you to lose (purely is just overall a bad match up for us though if we can’t stop the noir) Princess is over rated and feels weak, Grypgon or other links can be utilised much more effectively in this deck
@@Rej0yce. I lost to salad game 1 because he put up a giant board while I stared at only engine. Game 2 I bricked. Shit happens. His game 1 board even played through nib. That said, obviously having nib would've made the deck better vs salad had I played salad a million times in a row. I lost to purrely spright because that deck just plays through virtually anything going first game 1 (except sometimes droll or sometimes nib.. but in this match in particular, he had plump-noir before nib, so it wouldn't have mattered) , then game 2 I beat them because that deck can barely fit non engine , and then game 3 they once again did their soft FTK. It's basically the typical "endless gas deck going first is strong". Droll could've maybe helped, but again; should you account for this? Not so sure. You're making sweeping statements with zero context lol
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Easily one of the better lists on the internet. Congrats on the top
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Congratz, I have first ed PTDN Yubels in my collection since 2008. Love the cards so its cool to see you have success with it!
it’s a beauty!
Congratulations; you'll get the top next time :D I enjoy the in-depth explanations, speaking on the thought process is great insight. Love ya man.
Piri reis is great. I've tried 3 Spirit since it is good vs tenpai in theory. But in practice Tenpai always makes the lvl 10 disabling effects in the battle phase.
Fenrir feels good rn. The simplified "Nobody could play and we are just looking at each other with multiple handtraps" game state happens too often this format.
Bricking is the no.1 issue with Yubel decks in general imo. Playing less bad draws is the way.
Best of luck, keep it up and have a good one!
Thank you!
grats on the top my guy. Unfortunate on missing out on top 16 cut but top 32 mat still pog. Nice to see you doing well in YGO.
thank you!
I can’t believe I agree so much with this, congrats on the top, I can see this changing slightly with phantom, but having issues with droll in the future. Terror is def going need to come back though so you can access phantom more frequently.
Best yubel list I’ve seen to date
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Congrats on your top, you'll get 1st place next time for sure!
I really really love the way you make deck profiles man pls don't stop
Also I think the the reason people play 3 spirit is because it could help vs tenpai attacking you but yeah until we get phantom i think 2 spirit is optimal
Tenpai will make the level 10 before battle if they can so you can’t even activate spirit :/
He’s right in only playing 2 since he only plays 1 nightmare pain so I see how it gets less cloggy in some ways
I saw the map and I was like"why the hell dont ppl play this?" After the new support I never saw it again and ive seen yubel player brick a lot. I dont even play the deck but ive played a lot against it and this list just seems better than what most people play.
Map is so fun to play forces the opponent to ash you don't lose life 😂 but if they let you you get combo starters it makes me laugh when they ash say I lose life and you tell them no because you stopped it then go triple to draw into more combo
@@owopest4166no good player is ashing that. Why would they waste that
Because map is terrible
- 4k LP makes it extremely easy to get OTKed
- Makes the deck lose even harder to Droll, especially after siding.
- Has to be the very first move and you have to commit the normal summon on the search, so you can't get extenders like Squirmer down the line if you already opened one of your 6 Beckoning or 3 Lotus
- Yubel matches can easily go to time, so you can't reliably play this on game 3 due to the LP difference
Prosperity even for 3 has the potential to fix your hand (although not guaranteed), but its ability to be used later in the turn as well as grabbing any engine or even non-engine makes it vastly superior.
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- If they OTK on 4000, they were OTKing on 8000. Either you build a board or you lose. That's current YuGiOh an overwhelming majority of the time.
- Droll was not very played in this format. All eyes on pure snake eye / tenpai. You can also still make a board if you got samsara+squirmer
- You'll actually have squirmer far more often thanks to map, because now your throne isn't as reliant on getting your beckoning/samsara
- Yubel matches going to time? Play faster I guess lol, I never went to time all day and the regional before this, I also never went to time. If you play this like a combo deck rather than a skill drain flood deck, your games go fast. Fiendsmith might change this, but current version hell nah
- Prosperity is cool too, yes, but if you fully utilize your extra deck, you can barely ever prosp for 6... and it plays into droll just as much as piri does.
Loving to see the triple reis map , i eventually cut mines to 1 for stuff like for main deck called by the grave and nightmare pain, i also don't mind main deck belle because you can still belle snake eyes with they go wanted in draw phase and for times they cant chain block you with flamberge and poplar. Overall good list and congrats on making top 32 , i think Yubel at this point is just player preference with most deck choices , like i also love the train package for simple game state wins and winning in time.
Wow what a nice QCR Nightmare Throne! I wonder what handsome devil he obtained it from!
Anyway reducing the bricks legit makes this look like something I want to play.
You lucked out not getting top cut anyhow, would've broken my heart to have seen you queue into 3 stun players in a row.
This might sounds stupid but what is the second spirit of yubrl for? In the grind you will not need it right? And if you happen to draw it squirmer and friend can get it out of the hand so isnt it better so see it 10% less often by having only one?
Hey dou you going against Tenpai going second or going 1st? And do you prefer Mournier over Ghost Ogre?
Very well thought list, finally someone else that sees the deck at its potential. I will try some of your suggestions for sure (still on the fence about cutting terror incarnate tho, I’ve tried without it and did not like how you had more choke points during combos). One thing I’ll ask you is why don’t you play knightmare griffin. It’s a very good line into nib, tenpai and snake eye if you get interrupted. I think it comes up more often than hita after trying both of them, and I like amblowhale too for the princess line.
Love your list man, what’s your thoughts on playing cross sheep moving forward with phantoms I saw u are thinking of citing abom and djinn from the list for phantoms?
I love the commentary on decklist choices.
just gotta look past the swearing i guess 😂
Congratulations! Happy to see someone else on the 1 pain. No terror might actually be genius.
I like the Pris map. I hadn’t considered it and it seems insane as a starter card. I’ve been playing Nightmare Gryphon over the Abomination because I just make that against Tenpai and they need to draw the out or they lose it always feels like, plus if they destroy something, Yama can always just bring it back. Would love to see a combo video or even just some test hand play through with your list. Had never considered not playing the lvl 11 Yubel even when I brick on that horrible draw. My only other thing is that I really like Nightmare Pain, I could see myself cutting it to 2, but even in a simplified game state, it always felt like my opponent would focus on that card, and try to remove that before anything else, and it always seems to make them play super awkwardly even if I don’t even have Yubel on field lol. Good video and I hope to see more Yubel content!
- I love Gryphon vs tenpai but my big issue with it has been that tenpai tends to hand trap so much, we struggle reaching it... The amount of non engine they throw at us, endlessly simplifies our board until we just don't reach gryphon, so I gave up making it. You are right that it's the best end board piece vs tenpai if we actually get to it though
- Not playing the 11 has been great , it's been out of my list for a long time now and I haven't missed it
- I understand people play awful into nightmare pain sometimes, but I just don't feel it's correct to over-index on a card that mostly pays off when our opponents fumble... and 99% of the time, pain will be on my board anyway cuz our combo just looks for it. It's really not the end of the world.
I'm starting to play Yubel and I did notice it bricks a lot. Definitely gonna try this deck out.
Just keep in mind that piri fetching beckoning/samsara means your throne can get squirmer to play around hand traps. It's a world of a difference when playing through HT, as well as having more starters in general :)
If you can make video about Snake-Eye Fire King Deck and Deck's Combos pleas.
If you don’t have kash cards should we just run 3 more hand traps ?
A little late seeing this but can you explain what your end board is then? I’m having a hard time seeing apo and varudras made in addition to the unchained stuff here
You make rage out of yama + a random body (like beckoning beast), you activate squirmer in gy (cuz you made yama out of yubel + squirmer) to summon spirit. Sharvara pop spirit, yama cl1 spirit cl2 to summon both spirit + Yubel. You use gates to revive the beckoning beast, you turn sharvara + beckoning beast into knightmare phoenix. The spirit and yubel go into varu. The knightmare phoenix and the rage go into apo.
@@solemnyugioh Ooohhhhh that's super heads up!
Nightmare pain is one of the main reasons I top in tournaments this is why I play called by and triple tac because people play hand traps my guy
"Ceiling Increase" is a new way I've heard of "Win More" cards. I do agree you reduced the bricks heavily, might be one of/best list for minimal bricking. I keep going back and forth between 2-3 Spirits, and I might go back to trying 2. I've found I do enjoy/need the 3rd copy in some games, but I think I might try 2 again.
But, I think you've cut a lot of power and grind game from the deck and I'm not sure I agree that's the direction the deck should go, at least until we get Fiendsmith. Once we get those, I agree completely aside from maybe Terror thanks to Phantom. But-but, I can't disagree with much of anything in this list (Fenrir, Pain, and kind of Terror at most) and understand everywhere you're coming from. I think you and Trinity probably have made the best Yubel lists, and they're very different which is really cool. I do have a bias towards Trinity's lists since it's almost identical to the list I made on my own accord, with the only differences being fun cards (or cards I can't afford/don't wanna spend money on. Who needs ninja waifus when you have a yellow unicorn). I do like having some grind game, which is mainly what the 2nd Pain is for. I do think you're underestimating Pain's damage, I agree it's not the primary win con the deck should be aiming for. But it can do a lot with and without Gustav.
I'll also just say, I'm glad Accesscode got reprinted for cheap, Liebe was my budget alternative at first and by god is Accesscode so much better.
Honestly I've been testing a lot with yubel lately and I've also decided that running multiple copies of nightmare pain just feels soooooo bad... dropping it down to 2 and making space for piri reis map feels a lot better, but I'm still pretty adamant on keeping terror incarnate. A lot of my combo lines with throne or spirit gates involve terror incarnate and since I have 13 ways to get to throne/spirit gates that's pretty good odds for me. Also now that phantom is out terror incarnate becomes less of a brick, and you can use piri reis map to search terror incarnate since you never use its effects anyways to make a phantom with material in your hand if you already have combo available.
I feel you on that second varudras.
Sometimes I think about running Bystials just to banish my varudras so I can recycle it with mature but it’s one of those gamestates where you are probably up I would imagine so it may not be worth it or come up.
yeah, it’s more quality of life than anything
Very interesting list. I’ve been playing tubes for about a month now. Have cut spirit to 2 and pain to 2 and has felt good but maybe pain to 1 is the play. Cutting terror is really interesting because like you said it really only ups the ceiling of the combo with throne and nothing else. I’m really interested to see combos… is samsara just end of apollousa with rage in gy? Then beconing plus samsara should be hiita, varudras and princess and rage in gy correct? I really might consider cutting terror it makes a lot of sense. However when phantom comes out I think you need it to use as material for phantom as part of the combo. The maps are an interesting tech. I haven’t really felt like I’ve been bricking all that much. One for one I think is just bad. Going second you shouldn’t have any hand traps left to use and it’s just a minus one so idk I cut it and haven’t missed it. I’ve been switching back and forth between Ferris and cross out both have felt okay. Cross out in theory for this deck is great because the idea is if I can push my combo through I win. I also want to add a second Yama that seems to come up alot. The abom is a nice option haven’t seen that in many lists. I still play gryphon I mean mainly for tenpai but also ftks branded, and also can make other link decks have to play super awkwardly. Access code has been amazing tho. Nothing better that anguish link their guy into access code. I do also really like the breaker approach in the side. Great video brother keep it up and would love more Huber content I really like your perspective on the game.
- 2 pain can be fine if you expect 0 droll so you can cut mature altogether.. I just saw too much droll still in sides/mains to feel secure without mature
- samsara is just apo+rage in gy, yes. Beckoning+samsara can be a lot of different things
- piri has felt crucial.. it's that or pot. without piri, it's not that the deck bricks THAT much but it's more-so that you're scooping to hand traps way more
- it's true that when phantom comes out, terror makes certain combos way better, but I'm not convinced yet that it'll be required.. I'll obviously test it before making a final choice
- I agree one for one can be odd going second, I always side it out going second, but I really like the gas it provides going first
- my problem with crossout is that it's shit going second and it requires you to play bad hand traps in virtually every matchup... Being forced to play nib, ogre, droll, belle... feels really bad, cuz every single hand trap can technically hurt us
- I liked gryphon vs tenpai in theory, but then as I played the matchup more, I noticed they tended to hand trap us so hard we almost never got to the gryphon
Thank you!
@@solemnyugioh there actually isnt much droll where I play i think everyone just cut it completely because its shit vs fire and tenpai. Isnt map just more copies of beckoning, throne, samsara? So in theory how does that really help you play through hand traps? Does even having both beckoning and samsara play through and imperm if you dont have spirit gates? Side note anoyone not play 3 gates is crazy thats like the best card in the deck. But yeah 1 imperm on your normal summon without gates or grave squirmer is just a pass. But love the inovation with the deck. I was never on suepr poly from the beginning and everyone at locals would look at me sideways when I say i dont play super poly. And im like nah you dont need it cards bad and theres no extra deck room.
@@solemnyugioh also vs tenpai if they hand trap you so much that you cant get to gryphon you just lose no matter what but when you do get there its auto win. Especially if you keep sharvara in hand and yama in grave. Even droplet wont save them
Good profile and congrats on the top!!
but i have a few things to say :
I hear people often say that the princess is a win more card - i disagree. The princess has multiple uses and can help you because its generic to put up good interruptions while your yubel engine has been stopped or you didnt draw any from the beginning. Its not only useable if you achieve full combo. 1 Dark beckoning beast can push princess out while you dont lose anything. you still have rage and everything else.
also its about resilience against a lot of boardbreaker. Dark ruler/Droplet and all sort of cards like that are good against the deck. it doesnt matter how strong your endboard is or if its a Peusdo-FTK - if one or two blowout cards can potentially kill the deck. thats the reason why decks like mannadium have a hard time to show dominance!
the princess really helps in my opinion and in my topping decklist i used - it performed well!
I can understand your arguments for terror incarnate but not only is it a valid card in the combo - also in the grindgame/simplified gamestate where you and your opponent both handtrapped each other to death - having the ability from a singular yubel to be able to float into the next one really can put the opponent in a difficult position. (Example situation, there are also a few other cases of course) Its not a card to be only evaluated in the full combo imo.
but one of the better arguments for terror is : Tenpai.
They often use cards like moonlight dragon (Bounce) or the Timelord that banishes all the monsters. Nightmare throne is a game changer in that situations - only if you have terror tho.
other than that i like that you put a lot of thought into the deck and tried to fit in your own style of play - im always a fan of that!
Hi there!
- Yeah, I'm also a fan of princess. The fact that beckoning becomes a real board because of her, is really nice. I used her a lot during the tourney. That said, once phantom/fiendsmith drops, she's still an obvious cut. But she did her job until that point hha.
- I'm well aware there's more to terror than just the combo, but those fringe situations were not enough for me to want to play it. I feel Yubel already needs to play a fair few bricky cards (yubel, spirit, pain, etc..) that I really wanted to trim the fat, even if it meant making the deck weaker in odd situations. My hands are super cracked 24/7 because there's not nearly as many mid draws. That being said, once phantom drops, having that extra yubel name does become more intruiging. I'll definitely need to test that.
Keep up the great content !
@@solemnyugioh you make fair points! i think currently if you hyperfixate on the consistency then its possible to cut terror and still perform good. (like you did!)
for me personally ive experienced those niche situations too often to cut terror, at the end of the day a lot comes down to players preference i think :)
im hyped to see how the yubel decks will evolve in the future!
again : Congrats on the top, you did good!
Please I need a combo vid because I just don’t know how to combo without the nightmare pain like I’m sure I’m missing something I just don’t know what
What you think over the other unchaind trap ?
And can you make a combo Video with this deck pls
The other unchained trap doesn’t allow you to link off your rage cleanly
Do your glasses have missing lenses?
What I've gathered from watching a lot of these Yubel deck profiles (from folks like yourself, Trinity, etc) is that Konami ultimately failed in making the "intended" Yubel theme (the Yubel forms, Nightmare Pain, Super Poly, and so on) playable. But they did make combo pieces that can be slotted into a Fiend Link engine.
Hey wandered what sleeves are u using? Looking nice
those are I think last year or the year before that's nats sleeves, with dragonshield matte japanese size oversleeves
You should make another list with the new cards
Congrats on the top. Interesting. I would honestly never play the deck like this because to me you’d be clogged up with redundant hands and really have to hope your non engine gets you there. I think the “Timmy” style of the deck is just much more resilient versatile in its lines. Opening at 3 is insane because there are times the 2nd one does literally nothing since you can’t activate it because of the mandatory add. I’ll probably move to something closer to this when fiendsmith comes out but for now I’ll take the billions of two card combos the deck provides that help it play through handtraps
You’re not clogged with redundant hands. The extra good 1 card starters just play through ht way better. Pain is not doing anything when beck/samsara gets stopped unless you draw exactly pain+spirit. Veiler or imperm will pass your turn way more often when you run limited gates and every good deck runs 6... This means most of your games, beckoning will be impermed. You need punishes for that. It’s also the best follow-up in the deck and plays through boards way better. Also remember any time piri gets you beck or samsara, throne can now get squirmer to play through 1 more ht. You also need this non engine (if not more) or you stand no chance against snake eye. Yubel engine cards will never break properly piloted fire boards.
Would you consider the level 11 if phantom of yubel releases in BLTR and what cards would be removed from ED to accommodate 1-2 phantom?
I think djinn buster and then maybe abom?? not sure yet
I dont think I will play terror even with phantom
@@solemnyugioh thanks for the insight and congrats on the top
the only argument i do see for terror is that it makes your phantom based combo way easier but idk
Ok I keep hearing abt chaos summoning beast but I can’t think through y u play it and I can’t find a yt video can someone explain it for me
The reason is that the effect of the beast searches a spell (Spirit Gates) that can make you discard a card and special summon a fiend wirh 0 ATK and 0 DEF from Graveyard. Also you have an additional normal summon. It also baits out handtraps. I hope it helped.
If you open Beckoning, you get Gates, they get Beckoning (2 fiend monsters)
If you open Gates, you get Beckoning, it gets another Gates (1 fiend monster)
That way you cant do the regular Yama play or Closed Sky because even with Almiraj (a non fiend so Yama isn't happening) you still miss a body for Closed Sky. Additionally it's a lvl1 so you can use a free Phantom (lvl9) to go into a quick Chaos Angel going second.
Is that Yubel an older print? It looks wierd to me. The backround color, stars and name box just seem off.
Yes it’s the very first print
I need to know what exactly Princess does for Yubel. That’s not a really interruption and it doesn’t give you follow u
In the most common varudras lines, there comes a point where your board is: rage, sharvara and 2 level 10s.
You need to link off the rage and sharvara into a fiend because you're fiend locked to break the lock before making varudras. Every single fiend monster that does anything is dark, opening up your board to getting super poly'd to sleep, whilst also not providing any additional interruptions. Meanwhile linking off rage + sharvara into pricess here, leads to an end board of hiita/duelittle+amblo+varudras (with rage in gy+chamber set) meaning the board is not super poly'able (not that the card is good right now) AND having an interrupt that doesn't lose to breakers (princess)
considering fenrir too, been trying options for when tenpai goes Lstorm + droplet + summoning and none of your cards do anything anymore. maybe siding escape for that matchup instead of chamber, though you still lose it to the storm
To be fair, if they go lightning storm + droplet + summoning, virtually every deck on the planet just loses on the spot lol...
@@solemnyugioh you're not wrong haha sometimes they're just nice with it. even just 2x summoning feels really bad though.
I knew I recognized you from somewhere! Not sure if you remember but I was the guy in a pink donald duck hoodie
13:48 you said the Fenrir play pushes through handtraps with Muckraker you play through but you can’t summon non fiends after you use its effect. So no Varudras or Apo
Yes, but soul of rage is a better endboard than beckoning pass
Ah, I see someone has decided to play fiend link and not yubel for once. Congrats on getting far with the deck. I like how this deck is more consistent then the yubel deck that people are playing right now. I do wonder if the lvl 11 yubel will be required when we get the new fusion but that's for future testing. We aren't even sure we are getting it anyway unless its been confirm and I wasn't aware. kinda wish there's a better way to deal with stun. Maybe when we get fiendsmith there will be.
Yeah this deck really struggles into stun. I still need to test terror when phantom drops :)
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To be honest ima give this a try i agree im tired of setting traps and bricking to see feather duster and then they see the super poly my freinds are even playing winter cherries in tenpai to yank defender out this will shock them
E need a combo vid using this list haha
I’m a yubel player that doesn’t hate ya, I honestly prefer this play style of the deck so thx for another improved list!
appreciated :)
Make you a ubdate with new Fusion and Findsmith??
I think I'll be focusing on euros first
I'm sorry guys but I'm curious as to why I see fiend link so much instead of chimera yubel... Just chimera combo gives you full yubel combo
The chimera engine is wayyyy too large and the cards overall are pretty low quality.
What was your 2 losses?
Salamangreat g1 doing massive board while I had only engine , g2 me bricking on fenrir pass
Purrely spright g1 doing their FTK level board, then g2 me doing my FTK level board, then they g3 doing their own FTK level board again.
Both losses pretty un-interactable overall. The curse of only playing 12 hand traps in a format where you should be on 15-18, but Yubel doesn't really have the luxury.
I dont necessarily think the main yubel stuff people normally use is all that bad at all. Plus Droplet is INSANE for Nightmare Throne if you run incarnate. That being said, i love the fusions but dont hate this list. I think it speaks to the strength of the deck to have so many play styles for Yubel.
How many cards in main deck?
42
@@solemnyugiohthanks. Do you plan on doing any combo videos for this list? Curious to see some of the lines through hand traps and without terror incarnate in general
@@ReversaL- i would aswell
41 cards?
Surprised you dont play super poly since its the best boardbreaker of the deck(and of the game actually) but nice ratios for the rest
Super poly is just not good this format. The melodious board floats back, the voiceless voice floats back and the snake eye board does not give a damn either.
Super poly can be crazy in certain formats, but this format is not one of them. Also no player with half a brain will let a yubel monster hit the board, so loving defender is off the table. We are not breaking snake eye boards with breakers unless the snake eye player sucks, which means hand traps is the way.
It seems thar the combo lines would be harder without terror.
You need to access another body, but it's not the end of the world.
@solemnyugioh would you be able to possibly do a combo video for this build? This is probably the best Yubel build I've seen in awhile, but I gotta see the end boards without using terror
Nightmare Pain bad card is quite possibly one of the worst takes I've ever heard, though I do agree that when fiendsmith hits people will probably only play one. Dealing double damage and forcing your opponent to either remove the spell or play around it has insane value, and its just got a broken ass once per turn. There is also a point to playing two as it makes it hard/near impossible to remove both from the board. Also, if you still don't play terror after Phantom you are simply wrong because it stops being a brick card.
The best deck in the format plays knightmare phoenix and has endless link bodies... Removing a nightmare pain is easy as hell when we got hand trapped to sleep. And if our full board is there, they're not breaking it anyway, so realistically, nightmare pain is never doing anything in that matchup. We either have a board and autowin or we don't have a board and auto-lose. There is no real in-between in this format.
As for terror: Going -2 from hand just to make phantom sounds awful. That is not why terror may become required once phantom drops. The real reason terror may become really important when phantom drops, is that terror may be the required yubel name to shuffle back when you still need your spirit and yubel to be revived for varudras. But that will require more testing.
this dude hates this deck 😂
Lol I also got top 32 in my country
grats , what was your record?
@@solemnyugioh also 6-2, I played Kash, I coulda won the las game but because of the judge's decision I lost the last game :(
“Yubel can’t OTK through open borders”
Just summon Gustav then play Liebe over it? Thats 8k
That would require me to play 2 really mehh cards that only work when my opponent leaves an actual empty board? Like obviously when my opponent bricks on blue eyes, I can OTK (assuming I play the mehh trains).
And if my opponent puts up a 3000atk blue eyes, I can OTK (cuz it's yubel), but I need a way to OTK that involves the "in between" game states. Where I interrupted so much the end board is 1 diabellstar or there's a half board I clear as I play and then I can OTK but there's no clean 3000 atk monsters left... Obviously there's random mehh cards you can slam into your extra for the specific situations. My issue is that there seemingly aren't clean lines that apply to a majority of board states (like snake eye has with the zealantis line). The best line is the anguish-accesscode line with varudras. But it's still not a perfect solution given it doesnt work when you went through varu
I said super poly is trash
And no one believed me
I been saying it since day 1 lol , it’s a hand trap format cuz of snake eye
99.9% of yubel players play that card...I can set my super poly 🤪🤣
Okay, I am not a fan of this deck list because it completely strips Yubel of her identity and her Fusion plays.
Yup, I don't care for her identity. I want a consistent deck that plays through hand traps and can go second.
Sounds like you’re also not a fan of winning matches
@@Nck_Ch._EN Well excuse me for wanting to stay true to my architype.
Don’t comment about hurr durr deck identity on a competitive deck profile
@@AbyssShark6991 Wow, someone got offended over my post.
Mid
no u
@@solemnyugioh respect to the placement but there are other lists out that have performed better than this, you’re overly focused on snake eyes when that genuinely is an easy match up for us and lost sight of rogue match ups which caused you to lose (purely is just overall a bad match up for us though if we can’t stop the noir)
Princess is over rated and feels weak, Grypgon or other links can be utilised much more effectively in this deck
@@Rej0yce. snake eyes is an easy match up for us????? damn, if only the pros would've known.. we'd be dominating all the YCSes
@@Rej0yce. I lost to salad game 1 because he put up a giant board while I stared at only engine. Game 2 I bricked. Shit happens. His game 1 board even played through nib. That said, obviously having nib would've made the deck better vs salad had I played salad a million times in a row.
I lost to purrely spright because that deck just plays through virtually anything going first game 1 (except sometimes droll or sometimes nib.. but in this match in particular, he had plump-noir before nib, so it wouldn't have mattered) , then game 2 I beat them because that deck can barely fit non engine , and then game 3 they once again did their soft FTK. It's basically the typical "endless gas deck going first is strong". Droll could've maybe helped, but again; should you account for this? Not so sure.
You're making sweeping statements with zero context lol