Yes I am going to pick it up. Will use it around the house. To justify the price it will also be A back up for power failures so I can run A 1.6 cubic refrigerator for insulin.
I just got one of these....I'm thinking at some point they'll have some sort of solar attachment you can use with this...I like it so far,works good for what I use it for....👍
“Pure sine”, there is one reason why it is more expensive. Many of the DC inverters have a modified site wave, and are cheaper. This will not harm electronics. On the “feature”, a hack is to connect an electrical timer that would turn on every 50 minutes for about 2 minutes that would turn on something more than 80 watts. I found this information on another channel. So, does this mean it is definitely meant for a contractor site, and not the home user? Ego does have a solar powered attachment they have just announced for their Battery Powered Generator, and they don’t auto power off with lower power draw devices are connected for an hour. Based on the comparison between Ego, Dewalt, and Milwaukee, I would probably go with the Ego.
@@luisalvarez8266 If you go to the Belts and Boxes RUclips channel they have a video that compares these three. And Ego just announced a Solar charger add on for their product. Cheapest was the Ego, the Dewalt, then Milwaukee. They even say that the Milwaukee is definitely geared toward construction. The Dewalt is a little older, so technology isn’t up to date as the others. I believe I saw a price of $500 for the Ego, without batteries.
Very expensive and unless they’ve updated it, if what you’ve got plugged in is pulling under 80 watts, it shuts after an hr. Milwaukee owned it.... said it was a “feature”. I say flaw. If ive got something plugged in, I intend for power to be going to it. What the heck?! Nice piece.. just not for me...
Sorry Vince. I should have watched the entire video before I posted this. You covered this exact thing in great detail. It’s just one of the things that irks me about this piece of equipment that costs an arm and a leg.
Lol I’m pretty sure my 12.0 battery can give my 12” cordless Milwaukee at least 150 cuts on a charge. So this thing is the equivalent of 2 12.0 batteries?!
This is the video I have been waiting for! Thank you for the great video @VCG Construction! This brings lithium ion power to those of us who prefer corded tools for tough applications. Great product.
You do know this isn’t the first one like this don’t you? DeWalt and Ego have had power inverters out for a while now at way less cost than this monstrosity. Ego is also about to release a smoker charging adaptor too.
It’s because it’s Pure Sine Wave Power. Meaning clean power not raw power that a conventional generator produces . you can power LED TVs , even a microwave! Regular Gennys can’t make that unless you get an inverter generator which does the same thing as this but look at the price difference of those Generators
@@tannermartin7263 To the best of my knowledge, the alternator on a "conventional" generator (or at least what I think you mean by that) does produce a "pure sine wave", in that it's not filtered from a pulse width modulated DC voltage like many cheap DC-->AC inverters*. On the other hand, it won't necessarily be frequency stable, or voltage stable. To be frequency stable, the engine would have to hold either 3600 RPM or 1800 RPM, depending on how many poles the alternator has. I don't think an alternator without correction can be voltage stable at constant RPM; please correct me if I'm wrong. An inverter marketed as "pure sine wave" will probably also yield a sine wave that's not mathematically pure, but unlike simple alternators, inverter microprocessors can sense load changes and correct phase shifts and voltage drops, assuming enough DC power is available at the input. This doesn't mean that every product _does_, just that the technology we have makes it possible. *I imagine you could even have a worse waveform from a cheaply made inverter generator than from a regular generator if a bad circuit topology is chosen for the inverter.
@@connors.1077 Some of the higher end inverter pure sign wave Gen sets produce a better sine wave than you will get from the wall. Those generators in question have power factor correction. However, those are also very expensive and often propane. I have also never seen a portable one that is not massive exceed 6ooow.
Myself as a fabricator and mechanic this would be useful at salvage yards if you really need power and battery tools won’t cut it. Although myself I have been good even cutting cars in half for quarters with Milwaukee battery’s.
Milwaukee has a new version which does NOT shut off after 1hr at less than 80 watt draw. They supposedly have a program where you send in the old. They make the change in the software and send it back to you no charge.
If you're doing it yourself you could build out a solar system with 3kwh of battery power, a 3kw inverter/charger, and 600w of solar panels for the roof of your van for the price of this power station. I'm honestly surprised tool companies can keep getting away with putting out these offerings when their market should be able to make their own better diy solutions.
You are a complete idiot, how exactly would we regulate the influx and storage without destroying batteries that cost $649 each. Never mind that you could not use it while it was charging or the variations could destroy your corded tools. Learn something before you speak! Also you would be paying guys by the hour while waiting on a charge.
@@erikarice6859 calm down Milwaukee fan boy. They make things called charge controllers. You know the same technology other companies utilized and put into their portable power stations that are solar capable and usable while charging. Milwaukee was lazy on this product, which is inexcusable considering the price tag of this product and new platform. How many millions on R and D does it take to figure out the obvious? I still want one just because it would be really convenient lol 😆. Milwaukee is generally durable and high quality but they didn't even weatherproof this thing. Disappointing.
I've been following these "power supplies" and right now I'd lean towards the ego version...still not really a replacement for a generator...maybe good power source for camping...but new trucks are coming with built in battery power supplies and inverters...
The inverters in trucks are at best like 400 watts you can charge batteries but that's about it for a job really and it has to be running I mean you could do some lights but it would have to run and it would work for camping but for that there are so many better options but at a job it is a perfect replacement for a generator because most tools that you would use need that big power but only for a few seconds at a time maybe a minute vs a generator running the whole time just wasting fuel so unless it's like a house where you are trying to power your fridge and lights may a tv or something to keep you entertained it's not going to last long and a generator would be a good choice I do think it's over priced i could build something better with like 4 times the battery for cheaper but it's a ready to go solution
@@markbuckeye I saw 7.2kw and was like that must be a mis print because the biggest alternators from the factory are less than 2Kw but it says hybrid so I guess it will have the battery but that's a real rare thing I imagine but currently they are like 150w, 300w, 400w as far as I know I assume they are modified some wave but I have not found any info on them when I looked and have not checked one
@@james10739 There is a video out there of a guy testing his new F 150 to run most everything in his buddies rv,it all worked flawlessly...theye were however in a cold environment so no a/c, but the whole rv was running micro and all and not gettin no where near the max of the supply..
@@terryboomershine6812 ya no that 7.2kw is plenty to run even 2 ACs on am rv but that is a real specialized thing since it's a hybrid and in any regular terms would take like 8 car batteries and ever like 4 real high output alternators now maybe that's the future I don't know but on regular gas trucks all I have seen is 400w and less
It is reported that Milwaukee changed the design and newer production eliminated the timeout feature because of complaints from customers. Add the solar charge option. Going to buy one for use where I can’t use gas engine
The big mistake with this power supply was flexibility. You're locked into their features. Had it been more flexible with its features and with solar panels. That would be a deal maker for many people. Right now it feels like Milwakee is telling you what they want vs. what we want.
Solar Power option would be great, only problem is that solar power does not charge large batteries very quickly (from my understanding). But who knows what some R & D can accomplish!
@VCG Construction . Thanks Vince for buying the MX FUEL Power Supply and going over the features with us. l learned a few things about it. And about that "feature" didn't your Milwaukee rep tell you it comes with a optional Milwaukee person whose job is to turn that power supply back on every hour so you can have a good hour plus lunch making tool deal videos for us? Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I'm I'll a DYIer I'll wait for Gen 2 if at all, i like this in concept but they need to include pass-through charging, charge batteries all at once, solar option and maybe a cigarette charger option. Other features would to make every side of this unit into a super multi voltage charger ontop of outlets
Can’t afford it, just bought a dual fuel generator and I’m pretty happy with that. Thinking about getting a battery system to retain a charge and have a closer to pure sine wave for the smaller stuff. Thanks for the review Vince!
Looks pretty cool. As much as I would love to buy it, I am hopeful and will wait for the day they release a M18 Fuel version. The Ego power station is pretty tempting though. Pretty good price, solid brand. Great video as always! When are you going to put that hooded sweatshirt on the merch store? Looks like it’s embroidered. Two thumbs up for that! 👍🏻👍🏻
Does it have a filter in front of the cooling vents, or does it cake up the electronics on a building site? And why not build your own using a handtruck, a few car batteries, and off the shelf inverter & chargers? You can add a radio, lights and battery chargers for your cordless tools. And charge it with 12V when driving from job to job..
Ya 2200 is a pretty penny for something like this. The only thing really different between this and a standard inverter generator is the battery vs gasoline power
Why not buy the Ego? For $1000, you get two 7.5Ah batteries (can run up to 4 at a time in various sizes). 3000 watts peak, 2000 watt continuous. Or $1300 for four 5 ah batteries.
The Dewalt is way less money and with four 9amp batteries and gives the same amount of runtime and more with 12amp batteries which you can also use the batteries with most your Dewalt 20v tools
Actually, same capacity with 4 12Ah batteries. Those big MX FUEL batteries are 72V 6Ah. Each makes 72 x 6 = 432Wh. And each 18V(or 20V) 12Ah battery has 216Wh.
@@winstonsmiths2449 not sure what that has to do with comparing two inverters with completely different capabilities... Dewalt is a modified sine wave which can and does cause issues in motors, compact chargers and other sensitive equipment. If Milwaukee made one like it I would be saying the same thing as it has nothing to do with brand
I'm not really sure who Milwaukee is directing this product towards. When it first came out, I assumed contractors on jobsites. Well, one thing I could see being plugged in would be a bunch of lights to light up said area. But then the lights shut off every hour unless you hit 80 watts. So Milwaukee retracts from a nice sized job site and downgrades to 1-2 users. Well, 2200 for 1-2 users is a pretty penny honestly. Doesnt seem that much better than, say, the dewalt inverter honestly and even m18 fans buying the mx would be like a new platform so i dont see who would be buying this ideally. Thanks for the vid
We thinking to buy a power station but the price say it’s really expensive and not reliable because I hate gas generator because are so heavy and make a lot of noise excellent reviews Vince I’m contractor of south Jersey
It will last long enough for a week of camping to keep my batteries charged in my radio, fan, and light as well as make a couple cups of coffee a day and some toast for breakfast I'm pretty much sold
They can add one through the power Inlet. I've already figured out how to make a charger for using solar. I did buy this unit and am not in love with it but it is cool.
ok ok I know i’m late to the party. $2200 it’s doable, but at that Price I can get a Honda generator or the HarborFreight special (with two Golf Court batteries and a inverter, it’s heavy) it works.
With the microwave, the system is probably putting out very little power at rest and then takes a few seconds to ramp up to high output when demanded. Maybe try the microwave again while also drawing some power from the secind socket as well? Just to see if that's what the problem is.
Solar technology is not yet at the point where it can supply electricity to quickly charge batteries of this size with a compact panel size. You would get probably 10w @ 12v tops with a small photovoltaic panel
I doubt it... they want users on the mx fuel line, if anything like the dewalt bank with 4... gonna say 2-3 years when enough people complain or request lol
What’s the other advantages aside for the “One Key” feature for this MX fuel Carry On Powerstation versus the M18 Carry On Powerstation. Both are rated 1800/3600w and max capacity of 864wh Is it really worth the extra cost investment for the MX Fuel version. The platform M18 is way for flexible with more tool availability…
It would be better from an efficiency standpoint to have the multivolt charger built in to the thing. Changing the battery voltage to 120v ac just to have the multivolt charger step it backdown to 18 or 12v dc is less efficient than simply stepping the big pack battery voltage down to 18 or 12.
It is fundamentally incompatible with solar. What it would need is to be able to charge via solar and be used as an inverter at the same time. If it could do that, it could be used at a small constuction site, like a house, to power a small amount of appliances or chargers.
The jackery is a better option at half the price. Plus you can attach solar panels to charge. I think if Milwaukee redesigns this and add solar panels or a place to plug in solar panels and make it useable while charging it would be a solid product.
Liked the Video Vince, but gotta say. Was a bit disappointed by this new Milwaukee “tool”. Kinda a bummer, imo, and hoping a gen 2 will “fix” the power saving feature”. For the performance, new features coming, and what “able to run”....along w/ cost of batteries, my pick would be the EGO. The EGO Power+ Station (whatever ya call it, lol, along w/ interface display) is what I’d spend my money on. Especially if load the Ego up w/ the new batteries and fill all the slots. Also don’t gotta do the timer hack😉 I was hoping this would be a viable solution for when hurricanes hit, or other “emergencies” that leave us with no power (& sometimes....for weeks), but....just don’t think this is the tool for me. Hope to see an update in 3-6 months and see what still think after been using. Cheers✌🏻
about solar panel. the charger for these batteries requires around 400-470W , 1 squared meter solar panels (used for homes) produces around 150-200W on a sunny day now I will let you calculate how much of solar panel you will need to have to charge this thing at a reasonable rate.
What I'd like to know is whether or not it's suitable for a mobile car detailing business. It would be required to power a vacuum cleaner and a pressure washer, average shift 10hrs.
Vince nice vid that is bad ass. Just use it as it intended and it serve multiple uses. Thank you. VINCE can you use your influence with Milwaukee to make a cordless pressure washer on the 18 volt platform. Others on the market, but I have Milwaukee and like to see them in the game and yes I will buy one. Thanks again Vince. Cris
Hey VCG can you get on the horn with ryobi and tell them to make a 1500w 15a power supply? With all the free battery tool deals they had over the years people have tons of their batteries lying around and these would sell like hot cakes.
I'm considering this as I'm already into the MX fuel line. I have 11 batteries between my core drill, 14" concrete saw, and the breaker. I would have plenty of batteries to do anything I wanted all day.
@@xxxmikeyjock It's a fantastic tool. Way more bulky compared to an air or corded breaker but I'm a fan of the battery and not having a hose get in my way. It is also considerably quieter IMHO too.
20 amp interlock kit for this +40 amp interlock kit and 2-4kw generator and you have an overnight battery and daytime power generation for extended outages. Reduces theft and overnight noise. Will be plenty to run non electric heat, a tv and LED lighting. Tho is looks like the Ego it going to be better priced for this usage.
I would consider it but 80 watts is a deal breaker I would use it to run my cpap machine when power is out last time my generator ran for 11 day straight generator did it but die after that but kept me alive .thanks for what you do keep up the Great Work
A override button would be good for the 80w timed shut down. One thing to keep in mind for the solar idea is it would do a bad job at recharging it at a usable speed without lots of panels
Also the purpose of auto shut down would be the fact that the invertor idling (waiting for a power draw) will drain the battery e.g. you make a few cuts with a saw head off to the hardware store and come back to dead batteries in the unit
Hmm. I'll stick with a gas- powered generator. Knowing the MX is NOT a generator, but rather, a power supply, I'd think that a standard inverter and a couple marine batteries would be more affordable. 🤔 Thanks Vince and God bless! 😁👍✌
In three hours you could drive 100 miles for the gas to fill your generator. And if your out in the goonies how do charge this thing at all? When it dies you have nothing but an expensive boat anchor.
I feel the solar charging would be a waste due to solar panels having a low efficiency rate of conversion and well... Needs sun.. 12v charging from the plug in the truck/car would be more practical since it could charge while in transit or idling and short durations of the vehicle off as well. I would be curious if a charged car/truck battery that wouldn't be assisted by the alternator could charge the MXFuel and have enough to still fire up the vehicle, but an automatic low vehicle battery shunt integrated into the MXFuel would be more practical.
90% of my work can de done with cordless tools so if I picked that thing up it would be mostly for recharging batteries, running compressors and warming up lunch.
I was looking forward for this since you first mentioned it but sadly Milwaukee dropped the ball. 1. That stupid 80w thing I have a few things I charge over night that charge on usb and don't take 80w . 2. Only 2 outlets and no usb ports . 3. No pass thru charging. 4. No solar option . There are plenty of solar power station that can power everything that this can with the features i just spoke of but they are not built to be on a job site i thought this was going to be the answer for that
I’ll keep my Honda 2200, this is a neat idea, severely overpriced. I like the options you mentioned for solar. I wouldn’t pay more than the Honda ($1000) for this.
I rented a version of this not 'milwaukee' for building a shed in a park. 4000w, ran the chop saw for the day. silent. it was awesome. no screaming genie annoying the park users
The 23 gauge pin nailer doesn’t seem to exist anywhere anymore....? What happened “2540-21” ? I would love an update on what’s going on. Thanks for all the great videos.
Okay but like... I honestly feel like I should thank you for spending that kind of money to make a vid for us😂 now on that note considering a quiet Honda generator costs half that I will never be buying one of those but as always great vid!
Vince- will it run a microwave?
Also Vince- *introduces worlds largest microwave
No this will not power a microwave
Would have been nice if Vince told us the watt rating of the microwave
@@jimmybryan6760 by the looks of it it’s no less than 1000 watts
When Milwaukee said it would run at microwave they were talking about a tabletop 1000 W somewhat not a residential residential 1800 W unit lol
LMAO!
Solar power option would be a huge upgrade. Switching off the sub 80 watt time out, would also be a nice upgrade.
I love where Milwaukee is going with this but $2,200....YIKES!
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
I agree....
They need to make a Milwaukee solar panel to charge it.
So does EGO.
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Yes I am going to pick it up. Will use it around the house. To justify the price it will also be A back up for power failures so I can run A 1.6 cubic refrigerator for insulin.
I just got one of these....I'm thinking at some point they'll have some sort of solar attachment you can use with this...I like it so far,works good for what I use it for....👍
Needs M18 version that holds 8 batteries and run a small welder... Also Solar hookup... Also needs to be Packout
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
It’s releasing next month! Not Packout tho!
Ahhhh man. I'll buy what your selling. That's what I was thinking welder......
“Pure sine”, there is one reason why it is more expensive. Many of the DC inverters have a modified site wave, and are cheaper. This will not harm electronics. On the “feature”, a hack is to connect an electrical timer that would turn on every 50 minutes for about 2 minutes that would turn on something more than 80 watts. I found this information on another channel. So, does this mean it is definitely meant for a contractor site, and not the home user? Ego does have a solar powered attachment they have just announced for their Battery Powered Generator, and they don’t auto power off with lower power draw devices are connected for an hour. Based on the comparison between Ego, Dewalt, and Milwaukee, I would probably go with the Ego.
What about pricing?
@@luisalvarez8266 If you go to the Belts and Boxes RUclips channel they have a video that compares these three. And Ego just announced a Solar charger add on for their product. Cheapest was the Ego, the Dewalt, then Milwaukee. They even say that the Milwaukee is definitely geared toward construction. The Dewalt is a little older, so technology isn’t up to date as the others. I believe I saw a price of $500 for the Ego, without batteries.
Can you post a link for the EGO solar panels? Thx!
@@paedahe4975 They announced the charger controller that connects to their battery generator. I don’t think are offering their own solar panels.
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Very expensive and unless they’ve updated it, if what you’ve got plugged in is pulling under 80 watts, it shuts after an hr. Milwaukee owned it.... said it was a “feature”. I say flaw. If ive got something plugged in, I intend for power to be going to it. What the heck?! Nice piece.. just not for me...
Sorry Vince. I should have watched the entire video before I posted this. You covered this exact thing in great detail. It’s just one of the things that irks me about this piece of equipment that costs an arm and a leg.
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Lol I’m pretty sure my 12.0 battery can give my 12” cordless Milwaukee at least 150 cuts on a charge.
So this thing is the equivalent of 2 12.0 batteries?!
This is the video I have been waiting for! Thank you for the great video @VCG Construction! This brings lithium ion power to those of us who prefer corded tools for tough applications. Great product.
Thanks Max, we appreciate it!
You do know this isn’t the first one like this don’t you? DeWalt and Ego have had power inverters out for a while now at way less cost than this monstrosity. Ego is also about to release a smoker charging adaptor too.
@@TheBasher05 Yes I am aware. I was waiting for the MX fuel video. I did not have a great experience with the DeWalt.
No not spending $2200 for a power supply 🧐and I’m not considering buying it for that kind of money i’ll stick with my gas operated generators😍
Thanks for the feedback Crazy Mike!
It’s because it’s Pure Sine Wave Power. Meaning clean power not raw power that a conventional generator produces . you can power LED TVs , even a microwave! Regular Gennys can’t make that unless you get an inverter generator which does the same thing as this but look at the price difference of those Generators
@@tannermartin7263 To the best of my knowledge, the alternator on a "conventional" generator (or at least what I think you mean by that) does produce a "pure sine wave", in that it's not filtered from a pulse width modulated DC voltage like many cheap DC-->AC inverters*. On the other hand, it won't necessarily be frequency stable, or voltage stable. To be frequency stable, the engine would have to hold either 3600 RPM or 1800 RPM, depending on how many poles the alternator has. I don't think an alternator without correction can be voltage stable at constant RPM; please correct me if I'm wrong.
An inverter marketed as "pure sine wave" will probably also yield a sine wave that's not mathematically pure, but unlike simple alternators, inverter microprocessors can sense load changes and correct phase shifts and voltage drops, assuming enough DC power is available at the input. This doesn't mean that every product _does_, just that the technology we have makes it possible.
*I imagine you could even have a worse waveform from a cheaply made inverter generator than from a regular generator if a bad circuit topology is chosen for the inverter.
@@connors.1077 Some of the higher end inverter pure sign wave Gen sets produce a better sine wave than you will get from the wall. Those generators in question have power factor correction. However, those are also very expensive and often propane. I have also never seen a portable one that is not massive exceed 6ooow.
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Myself as a fabricator and mechanic this would be useful at salvage yards if you really need power and battery tools won’t cut it. Although myself I have been good even cutting cars in half for quarters with Milwaukee battery’s.
Milwaukee has a new version which does NOT shut off after 1hr at less than 80 watt draw. They supposedly have a program where you send in the old. They make the change in the software and send it back to you no charge.
Thx for the review solar power would be great option! Kinda expensive I think 🤔
I agree way to expensive
If you're doing it yourself you could build out a solar system with 3kwh of battery power, a 3kw inverter/charger, and 600w of solar panels for the roof of your van for the price of this power station.
I'm honestly surprised tool companies can keep getting away with putting out these offerings when their market should be able to make their own better diy solutions.
😆🍩☕😊
You are a complete idiot, how exactly would we regulate the influx and storage without destroying batteries that cost $649 each. Never mind that you could not use it while it was charging or the variations could destroy your corded tools. Learn something before you speak! Also you would be paying guys by the hour while waiting on a charge.
@@erikarice6859 calm down Milwaukee fan boy. They make things called charge controllers. You know the same technology other companies utilized and put into their portable power stations that are solar capable and usable while charging. Milwaukee was lazy on this product, which is inexcusable considering the price tag of this product and new platform. How many millions on R and D does it take to figure out the obvious? I still want one just because it would be really convenient lol 😆. Milwaukee is generally durable and high quality but they didn't even weatherproof this thing. Disappointing.
I've been following these "power supplies" and right now I'd lean towards the ego version...still not really a replacement for a generator...maybe good power source for camping...but new trucks are coming with built in battery power supplies and inverters...
The inverters in trucks are at best like 400 watts you can charge batteries but that's about it for a job really and it has to be running I mean you could do some lights but it would have to run and it would work for camping but for that there are so many better options but at a job it is a perfect replacement for a generator because most tools that you would use need that big power but only for a few seconds at a time maybe a minute vs a generator running the whole time just wasting fuel so unless it's like a house where you are trying to power your fridge and lights may a tv or something to keep you entertained it's not going to last long and a generator would be a good choice I do think it's over priced i could build something better with like 4 times the battery for cheaper but it's a ready to go solution
@@james10739 7.2 kw option in new ford f 150.
@@markbuckeye I saw 7.2kw and was like that must be a mis print because the biggest alternators from the factory are less than 2Kw but it says hybrid so I guess it will have the battery but that's a real rare thing I imagine but currently they are like 150w, 300w, 400w as far as I know I assume they are modified some wave but I have not found any info on them when I looked and have not checked one
@@james10739 There is a video out there of a guy testing his new F 150 to run most everything in his buddies rv,it all worked flawlessly...theye were however in a cold environment so no a/c, but the whole rv was running micro and all and not gettin no where near the max of the supply..
@@terryboomershine6812 ya no that 7.2kw is plenty to run even 2 ACs on am rv but that is a real specialized thing since it's a hybrid and in any regular terms would take like 8 car batteries and ever like 4 real high output alternators now maybe that's the future I don't know but on regular gas trucks all I have seen is 400w and less
Very excites to give this a try! It's going to make working in indoors a lot easier
Cest tres rare que si on travail a linterieur on na pas acces a une prise de courant
Yes a solar charging option would be nice and yes it would open up to more thing you could do/use for
It is reported that Milwaukee changed the design and newer production eliminated the timeout feature because of complaints from customers. Add the solar charge option. Going to buy one for use where I can’t use gas engine
solar power recharge option sounds great. Milwaukee make it happen
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
The big mistake with this power supply was flexibility. You're locked into their features. Had it been more flexible with its features and with solar panels. That would be a deal maker for many people. Right now it feels like Milwakee is telling you what they want vs. what we want.
Solar Power option would be great, only problem is that solar power does not charge large batteries very quickly (from my understanding). But who knows what some R & D can accomplish!
@VCG Construction
. Thanks Vince for buying the MX FUEL Power Supply and going over the features with us. l learned a few things about it. And about that "feature" didn't your Milwaukee rep tell you it comes with a optional Milwaukee person whose job is to turn that power supply back on every hour so you can have a good hour plus lunch making tool deal videos for us?
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I'm I'll a DYIer I'll wait for Gen 2 if at all, i like this in concept but they need to include pass-through charging, charge batteries all at once, solar option and maybe a cigarette charger option.
Other features would to make every side of this unit into a super multi voltage charger ontop of outlets
Can’t afford it, just bought a dual fuel generator and I’m pretty happy with that. Thinking about getting a battery system to retain a charge and have a closer to pure sine wave for the smaller stuff. Thanks for the review Vince!
Looks pretty cool. As much as I would love to buy it, I am hopeful and will wait for the day they release a M18 Fuel version. The Ego power station is pretty tempting though. Pretty good price, solid brand. Great video as always! When are you going to put that hooded sweatshirt on the merch store? Looks like it’s embroidered. Two thumbs up for that! 👍🏻👍🏻
How many batteries do you think it would take to run the same unit on m18 lol
Does it have a filter in front of the cooling vents, or does it cake up the electronics on a building site?
And why not build your own using a handtruck, a few car batteries, and off the shelf inverter & chargers? You can add a radio, lights and battery chargers for your cordless tools. And charge it with 12V when driving from job to job..
That's exactly what I would do.
This product needs many improvements.
As is I would not buy it...add solar charging and I would buy it for sure!
Ya 2200 is a pretty penny for something like this. The only thing really different between this and a standard inverter generator is the battery vs gasoline power
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Spending $2200 deserves a big “atta-boy”.
Vince, you got it. Nioyce. My EGO has an ego whose bubble just burst.
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Yes! It needs a solar panel!
Why not buy the Ego? For $1000, you get two 7.5Ah batteries (can run up to 4 at a time in various sizes). 3000 watts peak, 2000 watt continuous. Or $1300 for four 5 ah batteries.
Exactly what I need for working in refineries when a generator or welding machine isn't around for power
Sequential charging makes more sense because you might have three batts and need to swap a discharged one in so you can keep running a jackhammer...
The Dewalt is way less money and with four 9amp batteries and gives the same amount of runtime and more with 12amp batteries which you can also use the batteries with most your Dewalt 20v tools
Actually, same capacity with 4 12Ah batteries.
Those big MX FUEL batteries are 72V 6Ah. Each makes 72 x 6 = 432Wh. And each 18V(or 20V) 12Ah battery has 216Wh.
Dewalt uses modified sine wave. Big difference and limits what you could safely use Dewalts with.
Except you are comparing apples to oranges...
@@IssaquahWA1979 Again, the point is being missed. The Boss doesn't care if you drink coca-cola or Sprite. Owns both.
@@winstonsmiths2449 not sure what that has to do with comparing two inverters with completely different capabilities... Dewalt is a modified sine wave which can and does cause issues in motors, compact chargers and other sensitive equipment. If Milwaukee made one like it I would be saying the same thing as it has nothing to do with brand
Good review of this device-after seeing this video you learn how this power unit works and what it does.
I'm not really sure who Milwaukee is directing this product towards. When it first came out, I assumed contractors on jobsites. Well, one thing I could see being plugged in would be a bunch of lights to light up said area. But then the lights shut off every hour unless you hit 80 watts. So Milwaukee retracts from a nice sized job site and downgrades to 1-2 users. Well, 2200 for 1-2 users is a pretty penny honestly. Doesnt seem that much better than, say, the dewalt inverter honestly and even m18 fans buying the mx would be like a new platform so i dont see who would be buying this ideally. Thanks for the vid
Great idea but pass through power and solar would be great. Especially for an auto detailer. Could be charging driving from sites
If you have power close by already why would you need a pass through
Sir u should be using the safety device that comes with the table saw. Milwaukee is big on safety .
We thinking to buy a power station but the price say it’s really expensive and not reliable because I hate gas generator because are so heavy and make a lot of noise excellent reviews Vince I’m contractor of south Jersey
It will last long enough for a week of camping to keep my batteries charged in my radio, fan, and light as well as make a couple cups of coffee a day and some toast for breakfast I'm pretty much sold
With a 12 amp hr battery?
They can add one through the power Inlet. I've already figured out how to make a charger for using solar. I did buy this unit and am not in love with it but it is cool.
why thru? you have a cord to charge just plug you tools in to the same cord? thru makes zero sense
Vince your right it’s not a generator which it is being marketed as but a very large back up battery
ok ok I know i’m late to the party. $2200 it’s doable, but at that Price I can get a Honda generator or the HarborFreight special (with two Golf Court batteries and a inverter, it’s heavy) it works.
I believe this one is best suited for contractors, I still want to see someone put 4 10amp batteries on the Ego nexus and see what it can do!
I have been WAITING for this!
With the microwave, the system is probably putting out very little power at rest and then takes a few seconds to ramp up to high output when demanded. Maybe try the microwave again while also drawing some power from the secind socket as well? Just to see if that's what the problem is.
dud. you are fun to watch. your like a kid in a candy store. good fun.
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Solar technology is not yet at the point where it can supply electricity to quickly charge batteries of this size with a compact panel size. You would get probably 10w @ 12v tops with a small photovoltaic panel
if they bring out a 240 volt option I would heavily consider it especially if they had a solar charger that was separate
Same here. I’d love to be able to run my welder for on spot repairs
Don't use it to run a fridge in an emergency because if it doesn't run for an hour boom shuts down...
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
I hope they have a 1800 watt m18 one coming
Yep this mx sistem its way to expensive for what it does in my opinion
I doubt it... they want users on the mx fuel line, if anything like the dewalt bank with 4... gonna say 2-3 years when enough people complain or request lol
Hey vince how do you balance your RUclips career and contractor career?
I always wondered this very same question....
Probably has a good crew so he just checks in the morning and leaves after lunch to do the RUclips thing.
What’s the other advantages aside for the “One Key” feature for this MX fuel Carry On Powerstation versus the M18 Carry On Powerstation. Both are rated 1800/3600w and max capacity of 864wh Is it really worth the extra cost investment for the MX Fuel version. The platform M18 is way for flexible with more tool availability…
I would buy this NOW if it had a solar power option
I love the consistency, keep up the good work!
I just bought the cut off saw. I hope they make a Mx fuel lawnmower
It would be better from an efficiency standpoint to have the multivolt charger built in to the thing. Changing the battery voltage to 120v ac just to have the multivolt charger step it backdown to 18 or 12v dc is less efficient than simply stepping the big pack battery voltage down to 18 or 12.
It is fundamentally incompatible with solar. What it would need is to be able to charge via solar and be used as an inverter at the same time. If it could do that, it could be used at a small constuction site, like a house, to power a small amount of appliances or chargers.
A solar option is key. Even if you have to buy it separately. As long as not ridiculously priced!!
I modified mine to accept solar charge. Cost like $50 for the upgrade
EGo has solar option coming
The jackery is a better option at half the price. Plus you can attach solar panels to charge. I think if Milwaukee redesigns this and add solar panels or a place to plug in solar panels and make it useable while charging it would be a solid product.
Can't see much point in returning to corded tools thru' an inverter pack. Sure, there are instances but Milwaukee have most areas covered with M18.
Liked the Video Vince, but gotta say. Was a bit disappointed by this new Milwaukee “tool”. Kinda a bummer, imo, and hoping a gen 2 will “fix” the power saving feature”.
For the performance, new features coming, and what “able to run”....along w/ cost of batteries, my pick would be the EGO.
The EGO Power+ Station (whatever ya call it, lol, along w/ interface display) is what I’d spend my money on. Especially if load the Ego up w/ the new batteries and fill all the slots. Also don’t gotta do the timer hack😉
I was hoping this would be a viable solution for when hurricanes hit, or other “emergencies” that leave us with no power (& sometimes....for weeks), but....just don’t think this is the tool for me.
Hope to see an update in 3-6 months and see what still think after been using.
Cheers✌🏻
about solar panel. the charger for these batteries requires around 400-470W , 1 squared meter solar panels (used for homes) produces around 150-200W on a sunny day now I will let you calculate how much of solar panel you will need to have to charge this thing at a reasonable rate.
What I'd like to know is whether or not it's suitable for a mobile car detailing business. It would be required to power a vacuum cleaner and a pressure washer, average shift 10hrs.
Vince nice vid that is bad ass. Just use it as it intended and it serve multiple uses. Thank you. VINCE can you use your influence with Milwaukee to make a cordless pressure washer on the 18 volt platform. Others on the market, but I have Milwaukee and like to see them in the game and yes I will buy one. Thanks again Vince. Cris
So let's say I wanna get this for my house in case us Texans have another bad winter. Would this be recommended or Okay to buy?
I agree Vince, I’d love to see a solar powered option for this. Doesn’t Skil/Chevron/Ego have a solar option?
Yes they do!
Ego uses a replacement power brick with a 180w limit and also doesn't do pass through power...
Hey VCG can you get on the horn with ryobi and tell them to make a 1500w 15a power supply? With all the free battery tool deals they had over the years people have tons of their batteries lying around and these would sell like hot cakes.
I was all in on this until I learned about the auto off feature...deal breaker
Those batteries are hideously big.
especially with one key already added, they easily could have made it an on/off feature. what the freeken hell
I own the Wagan 1500 , also the Briggs & Stratton P4500.
Next week will there will be a stronger version
I'm considering this as I'm already into the MX fuel line. I have 11 batteries between my core drill, 14" concrete saw, and the breaker. I would have plenty of batteries to do anything I wanted all day.
how do you like the breaker?
@@xxxmikeyjock It's a fantastic tool. Way more bulky compared to an air or corded breaker but I'm a fan of the battery and not having a hose get in my way. It is also considerably quieter IMHO too.
Nice, great vid
20 amp interlock kit for this +40 amp interlock kit and 2-4kw generator and you have an overnight battery and daytime power generation for extended outages. Reduces theft and overnight noise. Will be plenty to run non electric heat, a tv and LED lighting. Tho is looks like the Ego it going to be better priced for this usage.
I think I speak for everyone when I ask this question: Does this device cause cancer in California? 😆
Yes
According to California my power washer apparently doubles as a cancer inflicting device... 🤨
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It causes California in the state of cancer
I like how your m12 charger still has the zip tie on it lol
I would consider it but 80 watts is a deal breaker I would use it to run my cpap machine when power is out last time my generator ran for 11 day straight generator did it but die after that but kept me alive .thanks for what you do keep up the Great Work
soooooo now for a mx fuel lawnmower and mx fuel snow blower 😉😉
Yes!
Now we're talking!!!
They won’t be cheap. 2200 for this so I’d say 1500 for a mx mower skin
A override button would be good for the 80w timed shut down. One thing to keep in mind for the solar idea is it would do a bad job at recharging it at a usable speed without lots of panels
Also the purpose of auto shut down would be the fact that the invertor idling (waiting for a power draw) will drain the battery e.g. you make a few cuts with a saw head off to the hardware store and come back to dead batteries in the unit
Hmm. I'll stick with a gas- powered generator. Knowing the MX is NOT a generator, but rather, a power supply, I'd think that a standard inverter and a couple marine batteries would be more affordable. 🤔 Thanks Vince and God bless! 😁👍✌
Thanks Dave, you as well buddy!
In three hours you could drive 100 miles for the gas to fill your generator. And if your out in the goonies how do charge this thing at all? When it dies you have nothing but an expensive boat anchor.
I feel the solar charging would be a waste due to solar panels having a low efficiency rate of conversion and well... Needs sun.. 12v charging from the plug in the truck/car would be more practical since it could charge while in transit or idling and short durations of the vehicle off as well. I would be curious if a charged car/truck battery that wouldn't be assisted by the alternator could charge the MXFuel and have enough to still fire up the vehicle, but an automatic low vehicle battery shunt integrated into the MXFuel would be more practical.
A solar powered Charger option is imperative for this device.
Before I get one, I wanna know how long the charge of the batteries last.
i like this but i think the dewalt power station is a better value only down side is the modified sine wave
Milwaukee should add two more batteries on the side that will charge the other two batteries that is being used and vice versa.
$2200 inverter
It has its place and won’t be for everyone. The batteries sure as heck won’t be able to be slapped on an impact wrench or a weed wacker...
I want to see it up against the dewalt power station.
Yes! Solar power option
90% of my work can de done with cordless tools so if I picked that thing up it would be mostly for recharging batteries, running compressors and warming up lunch.
like he said I wish it had solar power so when I go deep in the outdoors it can charge on its own
Run though power is not what you need with this tool. If you have power on the job you wouldn't use it. I like it.
Nice!
Its nice but the cost its huge
I was looking forward for this since you first mentioned it but sadly Milwaukee dropped the ball.
1. That stupid 80w thing I have a few things I charge over night that charge on usb and don't take 80w .
2. Only 2 outlets and no usb ports .
3. No pass thru charging.
4. No solar option .
There are plenty of solar power station that can power everything that this can with the features i just spoke of but they are not built to be on a job site i thought this was going to be the answer for that
Thanks for all the feedback Robert!
I’ll keep my Honda 2200, this is a neat idea, severely overpriced. I like the options you mentioned for solar. I wouldn’t pay more than the Honda ($1000) for this.
I rented a version of this not 'milwaukee' for building a shed in a park. 4000w, ran the chop saw for the day. silent. it was awesome. no screaming genie annoying the park users
No it uses one battery while the other charges so one is always charged or charging
Yes you are right should be solar to
Did they eventually get rid of the 80 watt safety feature?
The 23 gauge pin nailer doesn’t seem to exist anywhere anymore....? What happened “2540-21” ? I would love an update on what’s going on. Thanks for all the great videos.
Do both batteries have to be in for it to be used? Could you charge a battery while the other one operates it
Okay but like... I honestly feel like I should thank you for spending that kind of money to make a vid for us😂 now on that note considering a quiet Honda generator costs half that I will never be buying one of those but as always great vid!