Dude does this boost magics like the other transformations from the flames I thought possibly death magic? Don't really see a point in it for def boost if your naked but I guess like you said you could role play a omen using the blood spells with the 8 arcane boost would have been better with 10.
@@Imzorroz one of the new paintings gives you a rock heart to turn you into a different dragon ,painting is in shadowkeep and the ghost is near bayle, there different as one boosts dragon cult and the other dragon communion
I'm not sure but this should be how the boss mechanic works; he will summon clones which any of them you didn't kill before time run out (attacking real one also shorten remaining duration) they'll start crying then disappears and shown as small "ghost head" looking at you around your character's head. If you have more than 6 heads next time it starts crying again you'll get insta-kill.
I just got tired of his instakill bs and ganked him with the Wolf spirit ashes and Rosus' axe skeleton ash of war before he ever got the chance to multiply.
There is a hidden wall where you can use the lower goal key again just past the wall torch when you get the Call of Tibia. The little divot in the wall has a hidden wall with a locked door behind it and an interesting item is just beyond, the Lamenting Visage torch.
@@Francoroccosorry to say but transformations like this came from dark souls and main mechanic behind it is your trading armor for damage and elden ring was actually the first soulslike to not have transformations but having the dragon stones attacks being dragon communion incantations but in the dlc they gave us all 3 of dark souls' transformations (rock heart is ds1, priestess heart is ds2, and lamenters mask is ds3) + they actually do give you pretty decent defence's much better than normal naked and each transformation has different defence's with rock heart being the best and priestess heart being the worst
@@theholyknight9490 that can still be a thing, I'm just saying they could make it so you can wear the armour and not gain the bonuses from being transformed if you chose to do so.... just the visuals
If you're struggling with the clones, I used Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker when they all got too close and that helped. Also, I'm not sure how it happened but the Lamenter make my character do a sort of crying/screaming animation, and then I just flat out died, so watch out for that.
If you don't kill all the clones before they despawn, the amount remaining adds a hex to your character. If it builds up too much you die. Moral of the story, kill the clones, use aoe attacks to help do it quickly.
I had already found this dungeon but never saw the Call of Tibia item, so I double checked and yep it's not there, there isn't even the body in the room. Might be related to a quest or something.
Got a question: Do you get all New NPC weapons and armored later on without killing them. I am saving them for 1st playthrough and see what happened to them.
Oh how cool! MIMIC TEAR HIT THE FUCKING BOSS DISTRACT THE FUCKING BOSS THATS ALL I NEED YOU TO DO I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU DO JUST FUCKING DISTRACT HIM FOR ONE SECOND WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT HIM OUT OF MELEE RANGE WHY
That's very interesting. What I like about it is that is just a transformation which let's you keep your current armour equipped and also gives the perks which are awesome. Doesn't even cost FP, add or minus weight or anything. This is on the lookout list.
@@davidtsmith33 well it gives a default plus 5% defense to everything but holy which has a plus 20% defense and an added 8 arcane but yeah it’s pretty bad, only good for builds that utilize the blue dancer talisman or for omen cosplay builds. It also has a whopping zero poise that can never be increased even with talismans since the bull goat talisman is a percentage increase
Keep in mind that you need to be naked to use this. The form only gives a baseline of 5 defense across the board, not including the scadutree levels or defense trinkets.
the reason nobody talking about it, is because the omen form attack does barely any damage, in return for sacrificing your armor and poise. You get an ugly form with a low damage attack and minimal arcane buff. That's it.
Its fun but didn't find it that good, went from medium armor and the damage negation was noticeable without armor. Maybe as a light armor user its better
Love how i stopped playing last night in this Gaol and when i booted it back up i didnt even go through the jail I just left it to go to the Temple Town ruins 😂😂 thanks for giving me a reason to return 👍
There’s an illusionary wall next to one of the key locations in the hallway needs to a weapon called lamenting touch I found that yesterday while exploring just a heads up.
@@PhillyBeatzGames arcane with rivers of blood+10. Even with the mimic tear we just cant clear enough of the illusions and attack him enough to beat him
Okay it removed my previous comment because of THAT meme but your Tarnished basically needs to end themselves one way or another. Transformations reset after respawning at any site of grace or Marika's stake! And you can just apply any of them once again - their respective items have infinite uses.
@@PhillyBeatzGames if you're telling people about a specific item and subject, maybe stick to it. You'll save yourself a lot of time and effort, and others will thank you for keeping it on point. Telling people where every item is in the same area or how you personally get to an area isn't helping them really, part of the fun is in getting there.
You were my number one, go to for info about dragons dogma 2, and once again, you shall cook once again with this new elden ring dlc. Show me the way fellow tarnished 🫡
I can see alot of people getting this form for the memes or Trying To Beat Elden Ring as an Omen.
Dude does this boost magics like the other transformations from the flames I thought possibly death magic? Don't really see a point in it for def boost if your naked but I guess like you said you could role play a omen using the blood spells with the 8 arcane boost would have been better with 10.
These new transformations are honestly my favorite thing in the dlc.
Agree
I have one of the two dragon transformations but I still need to beat Bayle to get the second.
@chichobird420 I'm on NG+ 5. I finally beat messmer tonight for the first time. Bayle is just too much for me so far.
There’s 2? I only got the one after beating bayle where’s the second
@@Imzorroz one of the new paintings gives you a rock heart to turn you into a different dragon ,painting is in shadowkeep and the ghost is near bayle, there different as one boosts dragon cult and the other dragon communion
For those interested, at a pile with 3 small pot guys theres a hefty pot for crafting those big pots to deal with furnace golems
True my bad for missing it
Ohh yeahhh lol
Pisses me off how close I was to finding this first day I just didn't know where to go after that second key
At least you got it now right?
@@PhillyBeatzGames absolutely thanks a ton
You fucked up big time buddy
@@Brendonforgoop ?
@@Vivant_58o7 ya fucked up
Already had discovered this but great guide. Really consistent uploading dude.
Appreciate it!
Amazing guide. Did not know about this dlc is incredibly challenging but also jam packed full of great stuff.
It really is! Thanks for the support
I'm not sure but this should be how the boss mechanic works;
he will summon clones which any of them you didn't kill before time run out (attacking real one also shorten remaining duration) they'll start crying then disappears and shown as small "ghost head" looking at you around your character's head. If you have more than 6 heads next time it starts crying again you'll get insta-kill.
This helps a lot thanks for sharing this boss mechanic strat
I just got tired of his instakill bs and ganked him with the Wolf spirit ashes and Rosus' axe skeleton ash of war before he ever got the chance to multiply.
I used the crying emote you get there. It wiped out all the clones.
Curious wouldn't mogh shackle work the same as with the springs since you just have to hit the clones
There is a hidden wall where you can use the lower goal key again just past the wall torch when you get the Call of Tibia. The little divot in the wall has a hidden wall with a locked door behind it and an interesting item is just beyond, the Lamenting Visage torch.
what is thy item
I didn’t event know about this form. Thanks for this video!
Happy to help!
they really gave us a tibia mariner with a royal revenant... absolutely maidenless behavior
Thanks, this got me all the way through the Gaol. My first form, can’t wait to try it.
Being Literally a dragon or cursen omen 🤡💀😂😂😂 ( i appreciate that❤❤❤❤)
Or stone dragon :)
biggest downside of all these transformations is you can't wear any armor, and the dlc has so many good looking armors
It’s a quick trade off for the buffs
@@PhillyBeatzGamesthey could have made it so you can wear armour but lose the status buffs from it, so you can have the visual
@@Francoroccosorry to say but transformations like this came from dark souls and main mechanic behind it is your trading armor for damage and elden ring was actually the first soulslike to not have transformations but having the dragon stones attacks being dragon communion incantations but in the dlc they gave us all 3 of dark souls' transformations (rock heart is ds1, priestess heart is ds2, and lamenters mask is ds3) + they actually do give you pretty decent defence's much better than normal naked and each transformation has different defence's with rock heart being the best and priestess heart being the worst
@@theholyknight9490 that can still be a thing, I'm just saying they could make it so you can wear the armour and not gain the bonuses from being transformed if you chose to do so.... just the visuals
You get a sizable defense buff (for the dragons at least. Idk about this one)
Man they should have a frenzy flame transformation
Yooooo I wish
they do lol
@@kayhaich where? whats it called :O
@@brycehammond4125 its in the legit base game where you do the normal frenzy flame quest xd
True and it allows you to use the frenzy warming stones only tho right? Kinda wish it did more
very nice walkthroughs. no filler or unneccesary dialogue. straight to the point
Bro i saw a guy using that form on pvp and i wondered where i could get it, thanks bro you helped a lot.
So, quick question: does this form also requires you to take off all your armor?
Yea
Need this for the thorns build
If you're struggling with the clones, I used Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker when they all got too close and that helped. Also, I'm not sure how it happened but the Lamenter make my character do a sort of crying/screaming animation, and then I just flat out died, so watch out for that.
If you don't kill all the clones before they despawn, the amount remaining adds a hex to your character. If it builds up too much you die. Moral of the story, kill the clones, use aoe attacks to help do it quickly.
I was way too high when I was fighting him, I was like wtf is going on in here lol. Game was getting fromsoft weird
Lmfaoo being high and playing will deff do that
I had already found this dungeon but never saw the Call of Tibia item, so I double checked and yep it's not there, there isn't even the body in the room. Might be related to a quest or something.
Got this but thanks for help on another video! Pop off!
Ahh I gotta do something you don’t have!!! Thank you haha
I'm sure there's Destined Death Malenia Boss nobody found yet.
First i see the Dragon form, now they did the Omen.
Where is Malenia?
Finally, now I know what the lament form buff
More and more lore seems to be linking the omens with the formless mother it seems
I’m impressed with the DLC lore
Commenting just to say I sing the metal gear solid 3 snake eater theme song every time I climb up a long ass ladder 🥴😭😂
People keep fighting me in the coliseum with this fit, but they keep trying to it bare handed. It doesn't end up well... for them.😈
Feel like this is gonna be really good for arcane caster builds.
that route made my head spin lol
I’m sorry it was more of a noob route
Got a question: Do you get all New NPC weapons and armored later on without killing them. I am saving them for 1st playthrough and see what happened to them.
Oh how cool! MIMIC TEAR HIT THE FUCKING BOSS DISTRACT THE FUCKING BOSS THATS ALL I NEED YOU TO DO I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU DO JUST FUCKING DISTRACT HIM FOR ONE SECOND WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT HIM OUT OF MELEE RANGE WHY
Quick and easy. Now i have all 3 transformations
That's very interesting. What I like about it is that is just a transformation which let's you keep your current armour equipped and also gives the perks which are awesome. Doesn't even cost FP, add or minus weight or anything. This is on the lookout list.
You can’t wear armor with any of the new transformations
@@imeanslaverywasveryprofita4626 So you mean you have to be naked? That doesn't seem to be beneficial then.
@@davidtsmith33 well it gives a default plus 5% defense to everything but holy which has a plus 20% defense and an added 8 arcane but yeah it’s pretty bad, only good for builds that utilize the blue dancer talisman or for omen cosplay builds. It also has a whopping zero poise that can never be increased even with talismans since the bull goat talisman is a percentage increase
Probably a dumb question, but how do you change into the new forms? All 3 never let me 'Use' it.
Keep in mind that you need to be naked to use this. The form only gives a baseline of 5 defense across the board, not including the scadutree levels or defense trinkets.
Finally can do full cosplay of Margit the fell.
Thx so much you got right to the point and didn’t fuck about you deserve a follow
Thanks for the vid man❤
So now its 1 omen form and 2 dragon forms
Anything else ?
We keep looking!!!
Why all the forms look anorexic
They hungry
I want a werewolf and vampire transformation now. Give Skyrim a run for their money
How to reverse the transform ? I still didn't use the item , i will make there is a reversed way
Those screaming %%*$%&*&^.... fml they are the worst
Couldn’t do the quest cos I killed him 😭
Another thing to note there is a grab ability thats insta kills you so ve careful
the reason nobody talking about it, is because the omen form attack does barely any damage, in return for sacrificing your armor and poise. You get an ugly form with a low damage attack and minimal arcane buff. That's it.
See we gotta talk about it for comments like this!!
Its fun but didn't find it that good, went from medium armor and the damage negation was noticeable without armor. Maybe as a light armor user its better
i always wondered if the form is permanent or resets after taking of the mask
Now I know what it is lol I found this yesterday just didn't know what it was😂
Nice, there are two transformations here, like in Bloodborne.
Yup!!!
3 actually there is 2 dragon forms one for red lightning and one for the dragon communion spells
3
They added so many weird items!
The TBSkyen reference was great.
You are cultured haha
The omen transformation give you +8 to arcane.
Love how i stopped playing last night in this Gaol and when i booted it back up i didnt even go through the jail I just left it to go to the Temple Town ruins 😂😂 thanks for giving me a reason to return 👍
Ayee I’m glad you got it haha
Right I left too
The beast torch will make any rat areas not a problem
you missed the lamenting torch! it's on the other side of that hole that makes you drop
OMG is it good???
@@PhillyBeatzGames YEA for a torch, does stuff in combat! but??? debuff? you tell me
There’s an illusionary wall next to one of the key locations in the hallway needs to a weapon called lamenting touch I found that yesterday while exploring just a heads up.
“That nobody has talking about”
That every content creator has been talking about for the last day or so, lol. Good video though not hating :)
you missed a hefty pot on the key room
Ohhh nooooooo
It’ll be cool if we can wear Morgarts robe with this mask
Great video! Im currently doing an dung eater build and seeing as he wants to become an omen, this will be perfect
Does the lamentation rock that makes that wailing sound do anything after you have become the lamenter
What a thrill lol mgs 3 snake eater
This dlc is PACKED
It’s very thick
Didn't even think of him as an omen day 1, I thought he was a rock guy
Man this is cooler than the dragon form
Ayeee
I wonder if that form has a special affect on the omens in shunning ground
I just new game plus bruh...
Smart
How do you turn back
Ha ha I got literally an hour ago 😂😂
Nice do you like it???
Can you disable the form once you've used it?
props sir I missed the horn charm my first run through
How long does it last or can u do it when u want
All transformations follow this rule: You're stuck like that til you're dead
Was using the dragon cult form for a while, and I must say, it is really underwhelming.
Armor is cooler imo
Definitely called Lamenter Mask not Lamenter Omen
Who found these? Are there more transformations?
Edit: just realized I put “translations” I hate autocorrect so much…
Just gotta explore and find haha
Elden dlc just a whole new game,and im here for all of it😂
Sacred relic sword ash if war one shots the clones
W vid I fr haven’t seen anyone talk ab it ofc the dragon ones but not this
Yea this one is more spooky but I think it’s cool
why didnt you show the stats
Sorry 😞
So in terms of DR is it comparable to a light or medium armor?
How do you take the mask off to try different forms
I found this but I never knew what it does
Curious what weapon you're using in the video
Haha there's alot of dead people in this game. 😂😂☠️ the casuallness in that line 😂
Lmfaooo
@PhillyBeatzGames bro I'm saving all your guides for later 🙏🏿
i cant beat this boss
What build are you??
@@PhillyBeatzGames arcane with rivers of blood+10. Even with the mimic tear we just cant clear enough of the illusions and attack him enough to beat him
@@robertonawhim lol
"Uuuhuhuhahuhuuuuhu"- lamentation
Lmfaooo
Jumpscare build
finally people start to talk about it !
How do I remove it?
How do I remove the transformation after putting it on 💀
Okay it removed my previous comment because of THAT meme but your Tarnished basically needs to end themselves one way or another. Transformations reset after respawning at any site of grace or Marika's stake! And you can just apply any of them once again - their respective items have infinite uses.
What background music are you using around the 7 minute mark?
Why didn't I go through
I got the mask but it don’t work how I make it work ?
take your clothes off and use the mask item. it wont work with armor on
As a mgs player that put a smile on my face
Ayee glad you noticed it
Love the transformations! 3 of them so far, I wonder if there are more, way to cool!
3? I thought there was just two? The dragon form and the omen form.
@@Invader_Hexthere's two dragon forms, one that boosts dragon cult incantations and another that boosts dragon communion incantations
My oddball pick is that I'd love a Misbegotten form.
Hell no we ain't talking about it because we don't want it
😂
LMFAOOOO
Just think this could have been a death transformation from godwyn like a death Knight 😢
Why can't you just say where the nearest site of grace is to the Lamenter's Gaol? The beginners assumption is painful.
Because there are so many noobs. Just jump forward! Maybe going forward I’ll mention two ways per video
@@PhillyBeatzGames if you're telling people about a specific item and subject, maybe stick to it. You'll save yourself a lot of time and effort, and others will thank you for keeping it on point. Telling people where every item is in the same area or how you personally get to an area isn't helping them really, part of the fun is in getting there.
We shouldn't talk about any of this stuff really.
Lmfaoo
You were my number one, go to for info about dragons dogma 2, and once again, you shall cook once again with this new elden ring dlc. Show me the way fellow tarnished 🫡
Ayeee