2016+ Civic (Type R) - Service - How to Change Rear Brake Pads
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2022
- Look no further! This is the correct procedure to handle the electronic parking brake and pad replacement on a 10th gen civic without an OBD tool.
Note: after releasing the parking brake at the beginning, you can turn the car off.
The manual recommends winding back the actuator spindle as shown in the video if you do not have an OBD tool to put the brakes in service mode. If you do have the OBD tool that can put the brakes in service mode, you can skip unplugging and removing the brake actuator (black plastic motor housing). I recommend doing the spindle retraction however you end up doing it as it is easy to do and guarantees a problem-free install.
This procedure is based on the service manual procedure, with the exception of removing a brake line bolt under the hub that I don't think is necessary.
Used in this video:
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*Duralast Gold Ceramic Pads DG1878
Overall, a very easy and painless DIY!
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For those who don’t have a E-11 torx socket, a 9mm hex socket can be used to turn the ebrake spindle by hand
Used this video for my brake pad replacement and omg this was so helpful! Thank you so much for this. Once I got one side down the other was a breeze. Also easy when you have the right tools. Overall thank you for this!
Thankyou very much for uploading this, im about to tackle mine this weekend after putting it off for a whilst, very detailed video 👍
Easy when you have the right tools. Thank you much for this video. Helped me out a lot.
Great video, just did mine following this video! Only thing I did differently was I did not remove the actuator clip, it can just stay on as long as you don’t leave it hanging on wire. (I didn’t want to end up breaking the brittle plastic clip, it didn’t come off within first minute and didn’t want to force it) thx for the video!
Very useful video. Thanks! Just did mine. Painted the centre of the discs / rotors with silver VHT paint whilst I was at it as they had become a bit corroded, but not worn enough to warrant replacement. I think I live in somewhat damper weather than you do 🙂 I decided not to disconnect the cable from the motor unit, but otherwise followed your method. For the second set I found it easier reattaching the motor unit to the calipers before replacing the calipers, but I don't suppose it made a big difference.
Thank you for making this tutorial. Just finished my rear brakes and everything went perfectly with the epb. Only part I couldn’t figure out was how to release the cable from the actuator, so I just laid it out of the way. You made it look so easy 😅.
You're welcome!
I had the same exact issue and did the same lol
Thank you so much for the video! It helped me swap out my pads on my FL5 while I was at the track.
so you just disconnected the ebrake module ?
Great video! Thanks for making it.
Fantastic guide. One thing, sometimes those actuator cable tabs are ON there (broke both tabs trying to get them to release). My work around on my second side was to simply take the actuator off with the wires still connected, and just support the actuator on a jack stand out of the way. If they refuse to budge that might be the best path.
Otherwise everything here is spot on, and super easy!
Thank you for this video, just used this method on the FL5 and worked PERFECTLY
Really good video.
Super helpful thank you!
lift it by the rear support (to the left side of the exhaust) you lift the rear completely, and as this tool(ap200 autel) you can put the parking brake in maintenance mode, (you save the step of having to remove the back cover)
I was gona do OEM replacements but seeing how puny this rotor is I’m gonna do the big rotor upgrade in the rear when the time comes. I was hoping you would have shown how you got the big ol torque wrench in for the top bolt too.
When pumping the brakes at the end, do you turn the car on ? At what point I can engage the ebrake ?
I got a "Brake Hold System Problem" error after replacing mine. Anyone know what went wrong, and/or how to fix?
Thank you for the useful video. Got three quick questions:
1. Do I still need the OBD tool to put the car in maintenance mode using your method?
2. What does the compression tool looks like
3. Does the new brake pads need a bit of sanding before putting them on? I heard some put the new brake pads on and end up damaging the rotor
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for watching!
1. You do not need the OBD tool if you follow the procedure in the video.
2. I have a link to the tool in the video description.
3. You do not need to sand the brake pads. You may want to turn the rotors if they're above the service limit and if there is a small lip that developed due to pad wear. If you don't, the new pads may make noise until they're fully worn in.
@@ez12a Great! Thank you for the clarification. Gonna do it tomorrow :)
Is it okay to leave car in gear?
Will removing the actuator require additional grease for the spindle?
And also do you leave the car on after disengaging the e-brake?
You can leave the car in gear. Id also chock the wheels to be safe. Service manual does mention coating the spindle again with EPB grease. Dupont makes one. I felt like it was pretty well lubricated so I skipped that step.
You don't need to leave the car on after engaging and disengaging the electronic brake.
Just for some clarification/peace of mind, once the spindle has been manually retracted, does the rear caliper just compress straight in normally like a front caliper? Or does it have to be twisted and compressed at the same time like a manual parking brake caliper? I’m finding contradicting info on this, thanks in advance.
After retraction of the spindle, the Rear caliper does not have to be twisted to compress.
Hi, After everything done when you pump on the brake paddle and engage and disengage EPB . Do you have to start up the car or not ? Thanks!
Sorry for double post.
It'll be easier to pump the brakes with the car started
@@ez12a Thank you !
At the end of your Video, you mention, Engage, and disengage the parking break, what is the purpose of this action ? Thanks !
Hey thanks for the question! As stated, this is required to recalibrate the parking brake if you've manually wound the spindle back like in the video. If you use the obd tool, taking the brakes out of service mode will do the same thing. The goal is for the car to learn the new parking brake position by pressing the brake pads in. Because we don't have cable actuated brakes, the electronic parking brake is self adjusting whenever you engage and disengage it.
@@ez12a Thanks for your time ! Cheers !
What was the purpose of that E11 Torx
You turned it close-wise to lock, did you ever unloc?
The spindle is e11 torx. I didn't have trouble turning it by hand with the e11 socket though.
You don't need to undo, engaging the ebrake when you're done does the job.
I’ve followed your steps all the way through and when i got to putting the actuator back on, it doesn’t sit correctly and i don’t want to risk damaging anything by tightening it the way it sits. What do you think it might be?
Rotate the spindle a bit and see if it slides on better.
I've seen some other videos but your the only one to spin the spindle on the back of the parking brake. Do you have to do that or can I just leave that part alone completely?
It is recommended by the service manual to wind the spindle back as shown or put the parking brake in maintenance mode with a computer. This is the proper procedure, and is the only way to guarantee you won't damage the parking brake. You risk damaging the parking brake if you force the piston back without retracting the parking brake properly, and many videos show the incorrect procedure. You may also run into issues fitting the new pads in if the parking brake is not fully retracted.
Retracting the spindle even manually is very easy and adds only minutes to the overall job. You can spin the spindle by hand with a socket. definitely recommend doing it.
@@ez12a I am definitely going to wind the spindle back now lol. Not worth risking damage just to be lazy and save a couple minutes. Thanks for the detailed reply!
@@ez12a Hi, After everything done when you pump on the brake paddle and engage and disengage EPB . Do you have to start up the car or not ? Thanks!
@@manche809 I don't know if you can disengage the ebrake without at least getting to accessory mode.
I'd start the car so you have vacuum assist if you find the brakes too hard to pump
I have one question, which direction would you turn the spindle on the right rear side?
Should be turned clockwise on both
Great Video ! Question, do you need to put parking break in service mood ? Thanks !
Yes, you need to put the brakes in service mode either with an obd tool or manually like shown in the video using the torx bit. If you have the obd tool, you skip removing the black parking brake motor.
@@ez12a Do you use the same toques specs on the Front Caliper bracket 80 ft-lbs bolt and 18 on Guide Pin ? Thanks !
So question on the rotors? Did you replace them or have them machined?
I did not have them turned. I think it's causing a slight squeal when cold but nothing crazy. I didn't use any brake squeal grease so could be it too.
anyone know if the process can be replicated for a non type r civic sedan? I'm going to keep searching for other videos that actually match my car more, but I like how this video is done.
Looks like the process for rear brakes is the same across all models
@@ez12a Thank you!
after turning off your ebrake did you turn off your vehicle and put it in gear?
yea before you get to work turn it off and put it in gear
do you have to spin the spindle back to the original spot?
No need, Engaging and releasing the parking brake at the end of the job does it for you.
There really no need to remove the back of the electronic ebrake like that. Just make sure e brake is off and with the right turning compression tool piston turn right in. Done it so many time to all the newer Honda with the newer ebrake system.
Great that it works for you. This video is following the service manual instructions.
When you say "compress the piston", I assume you mean to turn the piston with a special tool, not just push it in with a clamp, right?
Good question! You don't need to turn the piston. The tool pictured in the service manual is simply a clamp type brake tool. Ignore all the videos that go on about turning the piston. The important thing is to wind the spindle back for the actuator.
So did you spin the spindle counter clockwise or did u you leave it and put the actuator back on?
Edit: Apologies I misinterpreted your question. You dont need to spin it back manually after installing the pads, because you'll turn on the ebrake when the job is done and the actuator will calibrate itself.
Hey, is it okay to attach 12v battery jumper wires and attach to the electronic parking brake, allowing the piston to spin going into the calliper? I’ve done it before, never had a problem but would like to know if it’s okay, Thanks
Couldn't tell ya, I just follow the manual
Turn spindle clockwise….
Is that clockwise looking at the rotor?
Or clockwise looking at the spindle?
Hard to tell which way you are turning in video.
Thanks for the question, clockwise with the spindle facing you
you are suppose to grease those caliper pin bolts right?
The manual does not indicate any grease is required
@@ez12a gotcha, I just read that for lye brass bushing mod, it was important to grease that area and somebody mentioned to grease the oem slider pins. I know with previous caliper systems from Honda, I would have to if I take the slider pins out
No scan tool to activate service mode?
This method does not require a scan tool. If you do have one, you can skip the actuator removal
@@ez12a so without scan tool, remove actuator and don’t forget to spin the spindle screw to limit damage?
Correct, without scan tool follow the steps in the video. Also not limit, but prevent
@@ez12a spinning the spindle screw won’t damage the spindle? Just make sure e brake is off?
You need to spin the spindle to fully retract the brake, it is in the service manual and will not damage the brake
Where do you get that puck for the jack? Did it come with it?
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Hello, was the car on accessory mode(power button twice no brake press) the whole time while you were removing the sensors, calipers, retracting spindle?
Sorry for the confusion, no, turn the ignition off when doing the work.