Here's the thing with an even number group, the company will have a problem with a center or a middle parting. Notice how all groups have odd numbers of members. And most of the problem has favoritism, money and other problems that exist with greed and pride. She's the best yes, people love her, 100%!! But the company... Doesn't.
@@HauMun_1lovetacosSakurai Miu, she is a Japanese member from girlgroup me:i from the survival show produce 101 japan the girls, she also participated in girls planet 999
I definitely feel like she was kicked out of the group I’ve not seen a single sign of her being sick and who will let go of chance to debut in a huge company like Hybe?
yeah i feel like she was kicked out as she doesnt fit the aesthetic look of the members of illit. if you put her there now you will feel her out of place.
@@chad63 completely disagree. if you watched r u next, or any of her perormances its pretty clear she fits the cute concept. and many others. if anything, yunha doesnt fit illit's concept- but shes doing a great job and im surprised by how much shes grown on me! i miss yeongseo :(
The fact that 4 of the 5 members of ILLIT were chosen by producers instead of fans in R U Next tells me that HYBE and Belift didn't want her in the group. The fans picked her, but Belift probably already knew exactly who they wanted in the group.
Jeemin is on I-Land 2, and has a lot of fans backing her. She briefly mentioned RU-Next, not by name just that it was a survival show and not a good experience. Now the rest yes please justice for them.
Youngseo please be healthy and happy. As long as you’re doing okay, we can live to not seeing you on the stage. Know that we care for you and we will support you all the way.
@@lalbiakthangapaite3983 They arent saying she can't sing because it's true. They're haters who say nobody in HYBE can sing. They're SM and YG stans. Stop taking these barking dogs seriously.
@@Sinlock-1313 yea I know, these toxic stans say that half of the hybe cannot sing, it's not even half of the hybe, they also say that all the gg cannot sing in Hybe, it's just Le sserafim and ILLIT.
I felt like Belift was the one who dropped her because she doesn't sit well with the concept they were going for. Like she has stronger vibe even stronger and more mature than Yunah. They actually revolve the concept and group around Wonhee 😅
Ion think so I think she suits the concept more than Yunah actually. It’s been a fact that Mhj leaked hybe idol & trainees info. It’s possible she’s one of dem. This might be a stupid theory… but Haerin & Youngseo are similar (both kitty girls) I wonder if Mhj sabotaged Youngseo as she felt she would be a threat to the cat persona she built for Haerin idk. (It’s a rlly dumb theory Ik) but considering how Youngseo trained with nwjns and Haerin originally was supposed to be a hamster 🐹 I think it’s possible Youngseo was supposed to be the cat 🐱but dropped her last minute and gave Haerin the cat persona and so when she saw Youngseo was having her cat persona over at illit (if you watch their trainee vlogs you’d see Youngseo was embracing her kitty persona like her signature included a cat drawing along with her name for e.g) Mhj didn’t like that as she saw it was a threat to the cat image she built for Haerin and so sabotaged Youngseo debut in some way. That way possibly being leaking her info. (As I said I’m aware this is a stupid theory but knowing how salty Mhj is I wouldn’t be surprised if it was over something stupid like this) But theory 2, which is more likely is that MHJ didn’t have anything to do with it, that it was something between Youngseo and BELIFT Lab
Lol I always assumed Hybe was secretly preparing a new girl group with her and some of the other trainees that could fit a girl crush concept more like Chanelle and Jiwoo. And Himena since she was such a little Rockstar.
Unfortunately, No. if that were the case they wouldn't have ended her contract completely. If she would have kept the exclusive contract and just not debuted with illit and went back to being a trainee,then it could be a possibility but definitely not since the contract has been ended.
If she was in the group,she would DEFINITELY be a center,and be apart of the rap line tho she's a good dancer and would be 4th in vocals,hope she can or live a normal life or be an idol.
As far as I know it only happened with ILLIT. LS happened after debut. NMIXX of JYPE also happened after debut. G IDLE of CUBE also happened after debut. So not a HYBE problem per se.
Notice how all the members Riize Seunghan, Kim Garam & Youngseo all were previous trainees at Source Music, & happen to be the visuals of their said kpop groups, had their private information leaked to multiple media outlets during their debuts? Looks like a certain CEO/former Source Music employee who also happens to like leaking information about other HYPE groups to her press friends, except her own group of course, doesn't like even 1 inch of competition it seems. It's all beginning to add up now.
Whoever this person is, seems like he wants to reveal everything about seunghan and sabotage him. I hope there are actions done against him/her, how can a person be like this?
Fr I was like ‘that’s not himena, that’s jiwoo’ like if you’re gonna mention trainees atleast try to use the picture of the said trainee and especially if the trainee was on a ss (like she could’ve just typed her name on ggl and would’ve found a pic)
In my opinion if somebody was a bully when they were a child it should not be an issue when they're an adult. Punishing someone for something that they did when they were a child is sinister petty gross revenge. Someone's career should not be destroyed because of something that a child did even if that child was them. And I'm saying this as someone who was bullied. I think it's disgusting that society sides with people who do this. As a child they should not have bullied you true, but as an adult you should know not to destroy someone's career. Now I'm not saying that she was a bully but one of the theories in the video got me thinking about this. Two wrongs do not make a right. Even if the bullying caused you damage for years to come, attacking their career is doing it right back at them and putting you on the same level as they are
I think min hee jin was the one who was behind the youngseo leaving illit cuz she trained with both ador and source music and min hee jin is the manager of ador and some people say that she leaked information of trainees and I think youngseo was one of her victims and like that's why she left illit im not sure tho
Look I'm gonna go on a limp here, dont kill me please: I see "she" has big hands in proportion to the rest of "her" body and we all know how younger generations are overwhelmingly **ans and also, for those who dont know, since around 2014, doctors in the US (I dont know about Korea) are recommending hormone treatments for children as soon as they hit 4 years old, in order to be convincingly from the opposite sex when they are teens and adults.
She made everyone fall for her during RUNext. Even if initially she wasn't your top pick, you simply couldn't help but to be in awe with her. Her stage presence, charisma, personality. She was the IT girl of the show. I miss her so much 😢
as a fan of Youngseo, i'm so glad that she left illit before the group debut, this is the biggest flex i have as a kpop stan this year, i hope Youngseo debut soon alongside with Chanelle, Ruka, Jiwoo, & Jongeun
Okay - hear me out - what if she didn't like illit's theme, so she decided to leave to pursue a SOLO CAREER?!?!?! what if she is the next Chungha or IU. I'd stan
i don't think that's the case tbh，leaving a group because she didn't like illit's theme would be kinda petty.. she worked hard for R U Next and her leaving cause of that reason would be kinda off.. 🙁
Well with ILLIT's situation and reputation right now i think she can consider herself lucky she didn't debuted with them. Imagine getting attacked with every move you're making and ILLIT is borderline lost cause now, I don't think they can recover from all of this issue as long as they exist. Time will only tell how long these girls will last so let's see...
They don't have to recover they just need to continue being successful and making money while having a fanbase. You guys act like haters in the internet matters that much when most of those aren't even fans.
Y'all act like An artist going throught struggles means the end of the road for them. Lol illit will def bounce back and still be popular .Give it a few months Kpop fans will forget all that happened.
The other day UNIS members told fans they hadn’t eaten.. don’t know the details but a lot of these girls are suffering from hunger Same in Japan.. they’re worked to death..
Sure, but all the 'dark side of kpop' had been created and continuing long before BigHit and Hybe existed. As far as I know the only company that made a condition for music shows to respect idols and didn't put its idols into debt is the one you most especially feel disgusted by.
Educate yourself, dog. HYBE is as pure as freshly fallen snow compared to the Big 3. Burning Sun. Slave contracts. Selling idols to Saudi investors. Trainee debt. The list goes on and on. HYBE gets so much hate because they came up from nothing and beat the Bigs while paying and treating their artists well.
I feel so bad she deserved to be in the group she was my favorite she had so much talent we even have the same birthday😭 all I wish is that she’s doing well and hope we can see her debut at some point.
People in the comment saying shes licky she didnt debut in illit like its some sort of drag. Lucky she didnt debut in one of the most successful debut im kpop rn. Yall act like an arrist having issues is the end of the world.Give it few months and everything will die down.
They probably thought that she was going to end up being the biggest of the group or maybe they thought that she probably turn into some kind of diva and that it's all about her but it's very unusual if she kept getting high scores and she was well liked that she'd be the one out or they were trying to fills some demographic like we have to have a few Japanese members so she's probably the one they wanted to get rid of
the fact that she also trained under ador makes 6:57 make more sense, she could've been removed because min heejin had dirt over her and knowing mhj's reputation with spreading rumors... i just wish youngseo can still return and continue with illit after this MHJ fiasco
When the moments I know she left the group I also shouting Its really shocked me I watch ru next a rooting for her And she so happy when she was in the final lineup😢😢😢
To be honest I think that youngseo and yunah fits better in a strong concept than cute, but I dont think she kick out this opportunite just because of that, it’s a miss because she is very talent
youngseo's story makes me sad. she could have been somebody if only she had never let that scandalous trash boy from riize enter her life. sometimes it's the people you kick out of your life that makes the best impact. she learned this lesson the hard way.
She was supposed to be my bias, she is literally so perfect. The way she was trained to debut in two successful girl groups but leave just right after debut is so 😭 I noticed her since the very first day when her teasers got released, she caught my attention since the released pics of her selfies, then her performances, it would be so good if youngseo participates in ill-it again like ahyeon, bc they are both my biases 😭
I personally think it was more about the concept of the group... Obv Hybe wanted so bad to go to a cute concept, they are currently forcing the voice of some members when the members of illit (exept Wonhee but I'll not talk about her...) clearly aren't made for cute concept... And this girl especially seemed really good at girl crush...
ILLIT would have better vocals if YOUNGSEO didnt quit... Through the RUNEXT songs she participated in she really had good vocals. She would have been the main vocalist, I have little doubt if she didnt leave her vocals would change like all of the members... :(
She was my favorite contestant... She was the reason why I didn't complain about the lineup, "as long as Youngseo is here's it's okay". But now the group seems incomplete. And I'm sure that she would balance a little bit tha lack of singing skills of the group.
Real that happened many times on her during trainee times, she was perfectly fine to debut newjeans but min heejin just accusing source music that some trainees just trying work for the debut time, now she just perfectly perform with RU next trainees somehow they make her dirty and left her second rank? How mess!!
Sometimes I feel like they be knowing that there's gonna be controversy soon after debut so they opt out to avoid having to take all the toll. Either way, it feels hard to work for so long just to terminate a contract.
Youngseo was my fav person on R U Next. She wouldn't have really fit ILLITs current concept though. She's very fierce and would do best in a girl crush concept group. I still hope she debuts though because she's so talented.
its crazy how well hybes girl groups do during their early debut and then very quickly after they debut everthing falls apart, how does hybe get such good groups together and then just completely mismanage them
iroaches crying and coping in the comment section is glorious it taste so sweet it's good karma🪳🫵🏽🤣 #NewJeansNeverDie #NewJeans_is_Everywhere #Ador1stWin
The Min Heejin bit at the end hit me hard knowing what we know now. As a young (but now grown) woman, I've absolutely met these kinds of women who want to baby and infantilize and keep victims docile. People who are just seeking to find some power over the "prey" they can access and mess with. Women can also be manipulative and abusive towards young girls. Power and influence can turn people to do very gross things, unfortunately. I hope Youngseo didn't have to deal with that, and I hope ILLIT never has to either.
Uhhh you don't remove a predebut member who won 2nd place in the survival show just bc they "don't fit" the concept. Plus, if it was the case, Yunah wouldn't have been here...
She unfortunately, was one of the few Source Music trainees who happened to have their private information leaked during their debuts suspiciously. Remembering Riize Seunghan🕊
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I miss Youngseo, I was so excited to see her in ILLIT :(
Same,she was my first bias of the group.😢
I don't
@@urhypeboy womp womp
@@urhypeboyno way you thought your unique 😂
same, and she was my bias ☹️
On the other hand its good that she left because she doesn’t have to be in the conflict now. She has so much potential.
I really liked Youngseo at "R U Next," especially Chanelle. Love their performances. I hope to see the both of them on stage again in the future.
I'm still disppointed, that Chanelle didn't make it...Chanelle and Moa were my faves :(
@@dxmonwithheart LOL same. Chanelle had her ups and downs at "R U Next" but she definitely had SO MUCH potential. It definitely is a shame.
@@flyingkangaroo814fr!!
chanelle, jiwoo, youngseo and jeemin were my favs like wtff😭
God loves you! Repent and believe that Jesus paid the price for our sins! He can give you so much love, joy and peace!💕
KPOP really cannot have a 6 member group without any problems regarding the members 😭
Here's the thing with an even number group, the company will have a problem with a center or a middle parting. Notice how all groups have odd numbers of members. And most of the problem has favoritism, money and other problems that exist with greed and pride.
She's the best yes, people love her, 100%!! But the company... Doesn't.
Ive
StayC have not has any scandals or lost a member.
@@vixxexo6855neither has Ive. I think this 6 member curse is more of a Hybe girl groups thing
It feels like almost every 5 member gg once had 6 members
Idle
Leserafim
And now illit
HYBE really does have a 6 member girl group curse (ILLIT 5/6, LE SSERAFIM 5/6, & GFRIEND 0/6)
Hybe has a girl group curse at all, because all of their girl groups went through controversys
NewJeans 5/6
Isn't a curse.. it's just HYBE mismanagement.
They kicked GFriend out, terrible management of Garam situation, and Illit....
it was all mhj
@@HauMun_1lovetacosSakurai Miu, she is a Japanese member from girlgroup me:i from the survival show produce 101 japan the girls, she also participated in girls planet 999
We miss you, Youngseo.
I hope she will debut in another group
@@mariachristi9260 since we saw her concentrating on her studies I don't really know if we'll see her again, but I hope one day
I definitely feel like she was kicked out of the group I’ve not seen a single sign of her being sick and who will let go of chance to debut in a huge company like Hybe?
She left because of personal reasons. They said Min hee Jin leaked her information because she was threatened about youngseo formerly trained in NJ.
“Personal reasons” aka forced out by the company
yeah i feel like she was kicked out as she doesnt fit the aesthetic look of the members of illit. if you put her there now you will feel her out of place.
@@chad63 completely disagree. if you watched r u next, or any of her perormances its pretty clear she fits the cute concept. and many others. if anything, yunha doesnt fit illit's concept- but shes doing a great job and im surprised by how much shes grown on me! i miss yeongseo :(
@@9cloudrachel207 obviously her performance is great. im talking about the face symmetry amongst them. i dont feel she fit completely. just my opinion
The fact that 4 of the 5 members of ILLIT were chosen by producers instead of fans in R U Next tells me that HYBE and Belift didn't want her in the group. The fans picked her, but Belift probably already knew exactly who they wanted in the group.
Please stop youngeseo and wonhee,minju where picked on votes(Korean votes) Yunah and moka,Iroha where the only ones picked on judges pick
@@Jikook_halominju was also a pd pick it up think
she was really my bias and the only member who made me want to listen to the beginnings of illit..
min heejin spread rumors of former newjeans trainee (yeongseo) so she will not debut in new girl group
@@8thwisdomhorrible woman
Justice for chanelle and jiwoo and jeemin and youngseo and jihyun and ruka and jeongeun
Funaa
Jeemin is on I-Land 2, and has a lot of fans backing her. She briefly mentioned RU-Next, not by name just that it was a survival show and not a good experience. Now the rest yes please justice for them.
i miss youngseo so much, she’s always been my pick every round of runext and she’s my bias too. i was so devestated :(
Youngseo please be healthy and happy. As long as you’re doing okay, we can live to not seeing you on the stage. Know that we care for you and we will support you all the way.
She was literally such an ace. Everything was going so well...
She couldn't sing
@@占-m8ishe can sing, if she debuted in ILLIT, she will carry the group+Minju and Yunha.
@@lalbiakthangapaite3983 They arent saying she can't sing because it's true. They're haters who say nobody in HYBE can sing. They're SM and YG stans. Stop taking these barking dogs seriously.
@@Sinlock-1313 yea I know, these toxic stans say that half of the hybe cannot sing, it's not even half of the hybe, they also say that all the gg cannot sing in Hybe, it's just Le sserafim and ILLIT.
I felt like Belift was the one who dropped her because she doesn't sit well with the concept they were going for. Like she has stronger vibe even stronger and more mature than Yunah. They actually revolve the concept and group around Wonhee 😅
Apparently mhj leaked her personal info
@@hrtnens fake news!!! , where is evidence 😒
Some of the members don’t fit that concept either
Ion think so I think she suits the concept more than Yunah actually. It’s been a fact that Mhj leaked hybe idol & trainees info. It’s possible she’s one of dem.
This might be a stupid theory… but Haerin & Youngseo are similar (both kitty girls) I wonder if Mhj sabotaged Youngseo as she felt she would be a threat to the cat persona she built for Haerin idk. (It’s a rlly dumb theory Ik) but considering how Youngseo trained with nwjns and Haerin originally was supposed to be a hamster 🐹 I think it’s possible Youngseo was supposed to be the cat 🐱but dropped her last minute and gave Haerin the cat persona and so when she saw Youngseo was having her cat persona over at illit (if you watch their trainee vlogs you’d see Youngseo was embracing her kitty persona like her signature included a cat drawing along with her name for e.g) Mhj didn’t like that as she saw it was a threat to the cat image she built for Haerin and so sabotaged Youngseo debut in some way. That way possibly being leaking her info. (As I said I’m aware this is a stupid theory but knowing how salty Mhj is I wouldn’t be surprised if it was over something stupid like this)
But theory 2, which is more likely is that MHJ didn’t have anything to do with it, that it was something between Youngseo and BELIFT Lab
@@anyameowie I see Iroha as being more the same with Haerin though.
Lol I always assumed Hybe was secretly preparing a new girl group with her and some of the other trainees that could fit a girl crush concept more like Chanelle and Jiwoo. And Himena since she was such a little Rockstar.
Well with ILAND 2 being live now, I'm not sure anymore....
@@TheZeus012345678
I land 2 it's not hybe now , the group will debut will be under the same campany with Kepler :)
Hope that jeemin will be ok ')
Unfortunately, No. if that were the case they wouldn't have ended her contract completely. If she would have kept the exclusive contract and just not debuted with illit and went back to being a trainee,then it could be a possibility but definitely not since the contract has been ended.
I-Land 2 will be under YG Black Label, not Wake One, which is Kepler's label, who is staying at Wake One at leastv7 of them renewed their contact.
@@inesyoussef2308 Phew thank god! more hope then!
If she was in the group,she would DEFINITELY be a center,and be apart of the rap line tho she's a good dancer and would be 4th in vocals,hope she can or live a normal life or be an idol.
typical hybe thing removing a member before debut
Reminds me of Kim Ji-hun from BTS 😢
...and? whats the problem?
As far as I know it only happened with ILLIT. LS happened after debut. NMIXX of JYPE also happened after debut. G IDLE of CUBE also happened after debut. So not a HYBE problem per se.
@@penultimania4295why r u trynna start an argument
@@Tiffaneyneyy why are you a fcking clown?
I MISS HER SM 😭😭😭
i believe that this was connected with RIIZE SH hiatus scandal...and bang sihyuk was angry about it that's y his hate with NJ grew
He not fit to be ceo literally
Lol. What's this? The strongest reason is that she doesn't fit with illit concept. Why are you linking it to something with absolute 0 evidence?
prolly you're not that updated with the news... lol...
@@carat_universefactory you mean unfounded rumors started by haters like you.
Notice how all the members Riize Seunghan, Kim Garam & Youngseo all were previous trainees at Source Music, & happen to be the visuals of their said kpop groups, had their private information leaked to multiple media outlets during their debuts?
Looks like a certain CEO/former Source Music employee who also happens to like leaking information about other HYPE groups to her press friends, except her own group of course, doesn't like even 1 inch of competition it seems.
It's all beginning to add up now.
im still waiting for someone to prove this
Whoever this person is, seems like he wants to reveal everything about seunghan and sabotage him. I hope there are actions done against him/her, how can a person be like this?
@@irenesara455sm busy sueing exo members instead of these evil people 😂
This
seunghan is not the visual, the visual are eunseok and sungchan
0:53 that’s Jiwoo not himena
you even had not checked this bruh girl
Fr
Fr I was like ‘that’s not himena, that’s jiwoo’ like if you’re gonna mention trainees atleast try to use the picture of the said trainee and especially if the trainee was on a ss (like she could’ve just typed her name on ggl and would’ve found a pic)
In my opinion if somebody was a bully when they were a child it should not be an issue when they're an adult. Punishing someone for something that they did when they were a child is sinister petty gross revenge. Someone's career should not be destroyed because of something that a child did even if that child was them. And I'm saying this as someone who was bullied. I think it's disgusting that society sides with people who do this. As a child they should not have bullied you true, but as an adult you should know not to destroy someone's career. Now I'm not saying that she was a bully but one of the theories in the video got me thinking about this. Two wrongs do not make a right. Even if the bullying caused you damage for years to come, attacking their career is doing it right back at them and putting you on the same level as they are
I think if she bully someone has a child the person that got bully would talk if it hurts her but we didn't hear nothing
SHE WAS MY FAV AHHHH
I think min hee jin was the one who was behind the youngseo leaving illit cuz she trained with both ador and source music and min hee jin is the manager of ador and some people say that she leaked information of trainees and I think youngseo was one of her victims and like that's why she left illit im not sure tho
One thing HYBE charged MHJ with was leaking private info about idols. After all we've seen she would certainly do all she could to hurt Illit.
Look I'm gonna go on a limp here, dont kill me please: I see "she" has big hands in proportion to the rest of "her" body and we all know how younger generations are overwhelmingly **ans and also, for those who dont know, since around 2014, doctors in the US (I dont know about Korea) are recommending hormone treatments for children as soon as they hit 4 years old, in order to be convincingly from the opposite sex when they are teens and adults.
@@Sinlock-1313Hybe never charged her with anything of the sort. She never leaked info. Stop spreading lies online. Read a book.
@@PiggiesInTheRain It was part of HYBE's original breach of trust court filing. Stop defending criminals who abuse young women.
She made everyone fall for her during RUNext. Even if initially she wasn't your top pick, you simply couldn't help but to be in awe with her. Her stage presence, charisma, personality. She was the IT girl of the show. I miss her so much 😢
as a fan of Youngseo, i'm so glad that she left illit before the group debut, this is the biggest flex i have as a kpop stan this year, i hope Youngseo debut soon alongside with Chanelle, Ruka, Jiwoo, & Jongeun
you can only dream abt it
Okay - hear me out - what if she didn't like illit's theme, so she decided to leave to pursue a SOLO CAREER?!?!?! what if she is the next Chungha or IU. I'd stan
i don't think that's the case tbh，leaving a group because she didn't like illit's theme would be kinda petty.. she worked hard for R U Next and her leaving cause of that reason would be kinda off.. 🙁
fr... she trained for 5 years just to throw it all away
Well with ILLIT's situation and reputation right now i think she can consider herself lucky she didn't debuted with them. Imagine getting attacked with every move you're making and ILLIT is borderline lost cause now, I don't think they can recover from all of this issue as long as they exist. Time will only tell how long these girls will last so let's see...
They don't have to recover they just need to continue being successful and making money while having a fanbase. You guys act like haters in the internet matters that much when most of those aren't even fans.
Go to shop
ILLIT is a successful group. If anything, NewJeans is the one in big trouble going forward.
Y'all act like An artist going throught struggles means the end of the road for them.
Lol illit will def bounce back and still be popular .Give it a few months Kpop fans will forget all that happened.
@@Jikook_halo kpop stans are sh!!ty
what if she debuts under sm’s new gg…
The fact that I cought this in 13 sec
I didnt watch the survival show but I was excited to stan her when the group debuted
Poser
K-Pop is one of the world most darkest industry. I started to feel disgust with K-Pop. Especially with HYBE.
People are always disgusted with the most successful companies.
The other day
UNIS members
told fans they
hadn’t eaten..
don’t know
the details
but a lot of
these girls
are suffering
from hunger
Same in Japan..
they’re worked
to death..
Sure, but all the 'dark side of kpop' had been created and continuing long before BigHit and Hybe existed. As far as I know the only company that made a condition for music shows to respect idols and didn't put its idols into debt is the one you most especially feel disgusted by.
Me too
Educate yourself, dog. HYBE is as pure as freshly fallen snow compared to the Big 3. Burning Sun. Slave contracts. Selling idols to Saudi investors. Trainee debt. The list goes on and on. HYBE gets so much hate because they came up from nothing and beat the Bigs while paying and treating their artists well.
That's not Himena that's Jiwoo 0:53
i miss her so much . . . hope to see her again
Missing youngseo sm, she was my pick during runext 😭
Samee
I feel so bad she deserved to be in the group she was my favorite she had so much talent we even have the same birthday😭 all I wish is that she’s doing well and hope we can see her debut at some point.
People in the comment saying shes licky she didnt debut in illit like its some sort of drag.
Lucky she didnt debut in one of the most successful debut im kpop rn.
Yall act like an arrist having issues is the end of the world.Give it few months and everything will die down.
just enjoy their seething 😂
min heejin spread rumors of former newjeans trainee (yeongseo) so she will not debut in new girl group. I like ILLIT
Thank god she went now shes safe
BRUUUUH EVEN TAESAN WAS BROUGHT HERE CANT WITH THIS TBH
Not Taesan,but taesan's alleged "girlfriend".
I was shocked to suddenly hear his name 😂😂😂😂
taesan mentioned that seunghan anton and him are friends
i think its for the better, she's too good for ILLIT
She’s absolutely gorgeous 😢
Wishing her much deserved success in her future endeavors ❤
I miss yeongseo so much the problem now the possibility is that she won’t debut anymore I love her sooo much
Youngseo was one of the or even the most popular member. Illit wouldve needed her.
sounds so sad... Youngeo seems like had the most to Give
And she was my favourite 😿💔
They probably thought that she was going to end up being the biggest of the group or maybe they thought that she probably turn into some kind of diva and that it's all about her but it's very unusual if she kept getting high scores and she was well liked that she'd be the one out or they were trying to fills some demographic like we have to have a few Japanese members so she's probably the one they wanted to get rid of
I always wondered why she left. Maybe she knew there would be future controversies?
That makes sense. To a door knob.
the fact that she also trained under ador makes 6:57 make more sense, she could've been removed because min heejin had dirt over her and knowing mhj's reputation with spreading rumors...
i just wish youngseo can still return and continue with illit after this MHJ fiasco
When the moments I know she left the group
I also shouting
Its really shocked me
I watch ru next a rooting for her
And she so happy when she was in the final lineup😢😢😢
I was so disappointed… she was my cousins bias
To be honest I think that youngseo and yunah fits better in a strong concept than cute, but I dont think she kick out this opportunite just because of that, it’s a miss because she is very talent
youngseo's story makes me sad. she could have been somebody if only she had never let that scandalous trash boy from riize enter her life.
sometimes it's the people you kick out of your life that makes the best impact. she learned this lesson the hard way.
She was supposed to be my bias, she is literally so perfect. The way she was trained to debut in two successful girl groups but leave just right after debut is so 😭 I noticed her since the very first day when her teasers got released, she caught my attention since the released pics of her selfies, then her performances, it would be so good if youngseo participates in ill-it again like ahyeon, bc they are both my biases 😭
I MISS HER SO MUCH
Lucky Girl 👏🏻 She dodge the bullet there.
I miss her so much. She was my bias throughout RUNEXT
0:52
The third girl is mother jiwoo, not himena 😂
Debut a gg with Chuu, Youngseo, Jinni, Garam, Soojin and Gyuri (Ahyeon *almost)
I personally think it was more about the concept of the group... Obv Hybe wanted so bad to go to a cute concept, they are currently forcing the voice of some members when the members of illit (exept Wonhee but I'll not talk about her...) clearly aren't made for cute concept... And this girl especially seemed really good at girl crush...
Just imagine Youngseo and Garam re-debut together in another group 🤯
Garam is not going back to a girl group. She’s at acting/ I think art school rn. Tbh hope youngseo debuts in a gg too tho
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ILLIT would have better vocals if YOUNGSEO didnt quit... Through the RUNEXT songs she participated in she really had good vocals. She would have been the main vocalist, I have little doubt if she didnt leave her vocals would change like all of the members... :(
She was my favorite contestant... She was the reason why I didn't complain about the lineup, "as long as Youngseo is here's it's okay". But now the group seems incomplete. And I'm sure that she would balance a little bit tha lack of singing skills of the group.
When i found out she wouldnt debut, my first thought literally was: "Damn they wouldve needed her."
0:53 thats not himena tho thats jiwoo....
i don't know why but she reminded me Sheon from Billlie, she was in Girls Planet 999 and will be in the final line up of Kep1er
I hope we will see her as a kpop idol again
0:52 that's not himena, that's jiwoo.
i miss youngseo sm min heejin you will pay for everything
Real that happened many times on her during trainee times, she was perfectly fine to debut newjeans but min heejin just accusing source music that some trainees just trying work for the debut time, now she just perfectly perform with RU next trainees somehow they make her dirty and left her second rank? How mess!!
Girl you dodged a lifetime of horrific veneers and vocal doom!!!
Please can you make a video about sm girl rookies who left and some more information
Sometimes I feel like they be knowing that there's gonna be controversy soon after debut so they opt out to avoid having to take all the toll. Either way, it feels hard to work for so long just to terminate a contract.
Youngseo was my fav person on R U Next. She wouldn't have really fit ILLITs current concept though. She's very fierce and would do best in a girl crush concept group. I still hope she debuts though because she's so talented.
OR she didnt want to throw that ass in a circle for fame. No one ever talks about the dark side of the industry.
There must have been a reason why she didn't want to be in ILLIT, but that will likely never be revealed.
Mayby just mayby shy not agree with " SLAVE " tip of contract ...
just imagine youngseo having that cute dreamy concept in illit
She left bc hybe wanted to make a Newjeans 2.0
So true.
Ikr
Ah yes makes total sense, they wanted to make nj 2.0 that's why they put her in the group for months and illit initially was going To debut as 6
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You said it N J 2nd string, 1.O has been done and the best, TRY SOMETHING NEW FRESH/NO COPYING
Youngseo dodging the bullet, congratulations
I want youngseo back😭😭😭
I hope she's ok
Girl be thanking God and counting her lucky stars after all this mess ILLIT is in....😹
min heejin spread rumors of former newjeans trainee (yeongseo) so she will not debut in new girl group
She was literally the 2nd most loved member predebut 😭😭
That's sad. Half a decade was wasted...
Wait till you relaize min hee jin the reason she felt because she trained with newjeans
its crazy how well hybes girl groups do during their early debut and then very quickly after they debut everthing falls apart, how does hybe get such good groups together and then just completely mismanage them
iroaches crying and coping in the comment section is glorious it taste so sweet it's good karma🪳🫵🏽🤣
#NewJeansNeverDie
#NewJeans_is_Everywhere
#Ador1stWin
the 6 member curse is real many groups have been affected :(
ngl it'd always be interesting to me that both garam and youngseo were born in november of 2005 and ended up being kicked out
In my opinion the seunghan scandal made the most sense, yes apparently mhj didn’t say it directly but imo it’s still her fault.
no cause if she joined illit , you guys will say she doesnt fit the concept like yunah
I miss youngseo she's my 1 pick in ru next 🫠💔
She should've debuted- she had the skills. and overall aura !!
Not to mention she looks kind of like FreeZia/Karina
0:52 That is not Himena, that is Jiwoo.
I miss her.
bro i was so disappointed when it was announced
The Min Heejin bit at the end hit me hard knowing what we know now. As a young (but now grown) woman, I've absolutely met these kinds of women who want to baby and infantilize and keep victims docile. People who are just seeking to find some power over the "prey" they can access and mess with. Women can also be manipulative and abusive towards young girls. Power and influence can turn people to do very gross things, unfortunately. I hope Youngseo didn't have to deal with that, and I hope ILLIT never has to either.
even vcha has 6 members and one is on hiatus.
KAYLEE I MISS HERRR
youngseo where are youuuu :((
I NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE GROUP
Most likely removed because she didn't fit the concept the company was going for
Uhhh you don't remove a predebut member who won 2nd place in the survival show just bc they "don't fit" the concept. Plus, if it was the case, Yunah wouldn't have been here...
@@loucantcant06well Minju and Moka are around the same age as her. Btw, and this is no way hate
@@loucantcant06 yes they can - if their key member/s debuted. They would potentially create an aesthetic based on them which are wonhee and iroha.
She unfortunately, was one of the few Source Music trainees who happened to have their private information leaked during their debuts suspiciously. Remembering Riize Seunghan🕊
@@OpheliaRose-pk5wv was seunghan a source music trainee? Didn't he choose sm first? What is the source of this?