@@dhsf5937 nobody said korea doesn't have naturally pretty people. but idols specifically have a very sterile look that is pretty much impossible to obtain naturally without any enhancements. sorry if this offends you, but if you stan an idol they most likely got surgery in one way or another. Acknowledging them having had surgery doesn't make them any less pretty either.
western celebrities are exactly the same, not a single pop star hasn't had surgery eg billie eilish, taylor swift, selena, dua lipa, beyonce, rihanna etc
@@yaramkg5057 yeah but in the west its almost like a crime, people hate anyone who gets plastic surgery, look at what the karjenners are going through. But in SK, its considered normal.
@@wiseversa135 thats not really true when most of these influencers are seen as goals and girls follow their trends and literally get fillers and bbls to look like them? if they hated people who get plastic surgery then these influencers wouldn't have their jobs and men wouldn't be bending over backwards to have them. and in sk its more normalised for sure because they have a limited set standard for ideal beauty (compared to the west there's more varieties of standards and trends)
@@radsiickdefinitely. But at the same time, people should also know that you also have to have a good foundation for it to enhance your beauty. That's why some idols look botched.
@@suyunenergy3999 it's the truth tho. Some idols look good on the phone, but in real life, you can tell that they are not looking the way a human is supposed to. They give Uncanny valley vibes.
They start getting suggested surgery well before debut. It's insane that these children are essentially being pushed into nose jobs, botox, and implants before they're even 18. The culture around that will never make sense to me.
@@annanowak9620 That's true... Cause, how can someone be secure or can love herself with those standards? The worst part is the fact that asians don't have naturally those physical features.
Sorry but that's cope. Even with the best surgeons in the world, these girls (especially Wonyoung and Yujin) could have never looked the way they do now if it weren't for them winning the body proportions and facial harmony lottery to begin with. This is something no money can buy.
@@AD-ry7br agree, people who say this have no idea how well done cosmetic procedures work at all. you actually cannot just turn an actually ugly person into someone at the top of the whole world in terms of looks in a few surgeries. people say the same about bella blah blah yes there is surgery but if anyone could be wonyoung level with a couple nips and tucks ... then there'd be a lot more people to compare wonyoung to irl lmao
Y’all are acting as if the girls were horrendous before surgery like the girls were actually 10x better without the surgery especially Wonyoung and Yujin these girls had all eyes on them the minute they walked into produce 48 because of their gorgeous beauty and long legs
@@_Wonnielvrs Yep. Out of 96 other girls, Wonyoung and Yujin were ranked 4th and 5th for visuals by other contestants in Produce48, right after the likes of freaking Yiren and Minju, even though they were barely into their teens. They beat even Sakura and Hyewon. Heck, at a middle school graduation full of 15-16 year old girls (including her own sister), it's 12 year old Wonyoung who got singled out for her looks by a Starship talent scout. Pretending that the only thing that distinguishes average girls from these two is a good surgeon is delulu at best.
I dont think there is a concept of natural beauty in korea. There is nothing wrong with enhancing your feature but the fact that every 1 in 5 women have done plastic surgery is insane. At this point all of their noses look the same.
I guess that explains why all of the members get progessively more a like in their looks. I mean in their latest mvs sometimes its hard to tell who is who. Even they themselves get confused 😂
@@Freeliving111 i mean in a good way. I love them to bits. There's a bts where they joked that they looked.like each other especially in accendio mv with the same red hair
When I listen to Accendio on Spotify there is a still screen saver shot and I cannot for the life of me tell who is who apart from Rei who has different hair😂 well and I can see Wonyoung because she is extra skinny
Y'all,maybe it's also good to point out that there are people who are generally good at recognising faces (e.g. me,lol) To me,even with plastic surgeries only Gaeul and Leeseo look alike in the group (even from the debut it's really evident) In other cases,they pretty much all look different, even though similarities can be noticeable
Around 90% of celebrities have had plastic surgery so it's better to not idolise people so much cause even the prettiest people weren't even pretty to begin with 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly. And fans get offended on their behalf but that’s also part of the problem. Noticing or recognizing someone’s procedures doesn’t mean they’re any less of a person, and plastic surgery should not be seen as a negative thing especially if done safely and in moderation (because done in excess it is an addiction)
No Wonyoung got dragged everywhere for getting surgery she was called a plastic monster and every time someone would compliments her beauty people would start saying it’s all surgery and that she wouldn’t look good without the surgeries other comments like "Wonyoung is living proof that you’re not ugly you’re just poor" or comparing her to other idols especially her members (I mentioned wonyoung because everyone thought the IVE members were natural except Wony and she’s also the one who’s been getting the most hate for it)
@@izzysplanet69 Well obviously people hate them for it. Idols and celebrities are constantly perpetuating society's beauty standard and using it to their benefit. And that beauty standard affects EVERY single person (especially women) 🙄
Aside from botox and hfm, wonyoung also got mandibuloplasty and buccal fat removal, you could not achieve that kind of v-shape face with only non-invasive procedures. Its the same case with actress Roh Jeong Eui from Heirarchy. Nevertheless, that definitely upgraded their visuals to the max level.
U can tell because is u look at her jaw from the side or when she’s smiling. U can see some fat under it except the front of her chin. It looks weird and botched
i find it so sad that so many young idols get persuaded to get fillers, implants, surgeries, etc. by greedy adults who want to make money through them.. and not just idols, but south korea in general, it's an epidemic over there everyone is filled with plastic 😭
They got persuaded but who don't want to look pretty. I think they are more than willing to do it especially since you are artist in plastic surgeries nation.
@@usamahazman3196 well yes but i don't think any 14-16yo should be thinking of or directly getting their face permanently modified.. vast majority of them wouldn't do it if they hadn't been criticized for their looks
I'm not a fan of IVE but i thought that Wonyoung was the only one who got more than 1 ps and Liz and Leeseo had only nose job... Damn korean ps is on another level, all of them had their noses and eyes done at least
@@babyosa5629 yeah I do know about that but I'm just surprised how subtle some surgeries are, wouldn't ever tell that there was so much different procedures you could do to your face if it wasn't for videos like this
99% of the idols have done those surgeries. You cant look at your idols and think that they haven't done anything. Also, Most of them are already beautiful they just got their features a little more refined. Tiny but changes.
I like the fact that you don't talk bad about them like youre just telling what they have redone without being mean about it .I usually don't like watching this type of videos bcs of this but I think you did very well!!good job💕
can you do le sserafim next bc I have been a sakura fan since 2017 but her face has completely Changed. She looks wayyy older now and it’s honestly heartbreaking
@@wendystewart2088 she still looks drastically older and different from even 2021…. Of course she’s gonna look different but it doesn’t change that fact that she drastically altered multiple parts of face for her hybe debut . those changes don’t just come suddenly over a 6 month hiatus
see now? we're not ugly, we just can't afford to pay those surgeries, so nobody needs to feel ugly bc of kpop anymore, bc even though i love kpop, most of the beauty in this industry is fake
@@mimi_imfat i disagree. They're all atleast pretty. Maybe not the prettiest but definitely good looking already. And this commenter is especially talking about looking ugly. Not "mid". So idk what you're trying to argue about
Orrr you're not actually ugly but merely influenced by the beauty standards of korean media... Everyone has unique features and KBS shouldn't have to dictate whether or not you can be considered pretty 🙂 (Otherwise, might as well just ask AI for an opinion)
tbh this popular wonyoungism or wtv its called is straight up bullsht. people try so hard to look like her and want to have the unnatural facial features she has now (that are all just ps), they spread hoax about her that she is naturally pretty like that and even compare her to other members of her group saying that shes the prettiest of them all (while the fact is that she had the most plastic surgeries done out of all members of ive💀). it also brings down ALOT of ppls confidence now and make them think that they cant be an idol if they dont look like her.
THIS. They're all acting like "puberty did something to her" "she loves herself" "followed these simple steps for a glow up like wonyoung" But all she's done is having tons of plastic surgeries. She probably loves herself now but she definitely didn't before
I am a huge Wony fan and have never denied all her PS, it is actually amazing to see how skilled those surgeons were, but a bit sad knowing she got all these procedures being so young. She was gorgeous from the beginning, but I wonder, how would an average person would look after similar improvements.
Most people who don't want rhinoplasty usually gets an alarplasty which narrows down the width of the nostrils with tiplasty because it heals faster, less invasive and looks less obvious. I thought leeseo also might have gotten that, either way it really suits her face.
10:59 i think wonys original face had more character to it, her smile stood out. she does look conventionally prettier now , which is the aim of plastic surgery
looking at leeseo predebut pics it makes me sad that kpop is so obsessed with straight light eyebrows because her natural ones are so thick and beautiful!!
Pretty sure Wy also did something to her eyes (upper bletheroplasty?) Because her eyelids look less "swollen" and even more defined. I geniuinely think that her face is a work of art, she's exceptionnal. But I really wonder how it affected her self esteem, since she was very young :( being also born the 31st of august 2004, if people forced me (literally or not) to alter my whole face, it would have destroyed me. She's a warrior for going through all this for her job.
Haerin newjeans is so pretty but we can't deny the fullness of filler, eye surgeries, etc. She didn't blink as much as normal person is the side effect. Kyujin nmixx got some fillers too in her debut era but thankfully she's stopped. Its crazy how people just commenting like minji's arm or hanni's shoulder. This type of comment that make the idol done some surgeries, filler, or bottox.
tbh I think haerin is one of the more natural idols out there. her eyes look the same, but she wears a LOT of makeup and contacts that change her appearance totally. if you see her barefaced, she looked the same as pre debut but with lighter skin.
Why would starship make them get surgery like Yujin and Wonyoung were already known for their gorgeous visuals before IVE and starship making them get surgery makes no sense to me 😭😭😭
with how competitive the industry is, it’s not surprising that agencies would want the visuals of their idols to be perfect. especially since nowadays, particularly hybe, focus more on visuals and not actual talent
@@_Wonnielvrs hybe is no where near the level of yg, sm, and jyp. now I won’t say anything about their boy groups because im not that interested in hybe boy groups, but they are better than hybes girl groups by a mile even if some of them can’t sing. newjeans are great performers but their vocals are below average at best and illit, other than wonhee and moka could have been decent if they went with a girl crush concept + minju, yunah, and even iroha’s vocals shine more in that sense
i know everyone’s saying wonyoung’s procedures look really good, but i’m not so sure anymore. i think they were around the time she debuted with ive, but it seems to me that her procedures have gone a little too far. imo, she just looks kind of uncanny now. it’s especially obvious in irl videos. she kinda looks like a caricature now and it’s kinda sad to see how far it’s gone.
I feel the same way. In photoshoots and in perfect lighting she looks gorgeous, but in another cases she's a bit odd looking. And how her facial features changes from time to time in strange way that you can't even explain what exactly happened just adds uncanny effect
I don't disagree but some changes simply can't be achieved with only makeup. You can't create a nose bridge that was never there, create more scleral show or massively increase the size of your lips with simple makeup. Still, all the IVE girls were clearly beauties even before their surgeries, there's only so much a surgeon can do if you don't already have a balanced base to begin with
Yet wonyoung stans still constantly insist, that she's "all natural through puberty".. I didn't know you face could get smaller throughout your puberty🤪 lmao
It can become smaller via weight loss. Mine did. Weight loss can change your face. People would think I had surgery. My eyes became bigger and my noes became smaller. I'm not saying she did have surgery but it is possible
Yk that it's not impossible that you grow into your feature. It happens a lot and I saw it myself. My sister's nose grew first which led to (obviously ) a big nose and 2 years later it looked completely different like she got a nosejob
Tbh slowly changing features while u grow up is not completely impossible. When I was a kid my nose was way flatter but when I grew up my nose bridge was higher. It depends on genes ig
@@dangerzzzone2925 was your weight loss quite significant? like 10 or more kgs lost? genuinely asking because wonyoung has been similarly skinny her idol life so that is not possible (her weight loss changing eye and nose shape).
I understand there isn't much that is wrong with ps but i do get sad when i see young kpop fans say things like "their surgeries enhanced their looks so much" or "i need the same surgeon" these idols live in constant pressure a lot of them probably don't even choose what ps to get but the company does, they looked just fine before those surgeries
It still surprises me that there are people who refuse to accept that Wonyoung has surgeries, they are so obvious. I don't know if you can deny that she is beautiful and fantastic, but the botox on her lips, cheekbones and different parts of her face is too obvious, And she's too young, in about 10 years she might not look so good all this. And it surprises me because Wonyoung was always beautiful and since her debut she was the most popular because of her face, so what made her want to have surgery? It is very questionable that a beautiful young woman would want to have surgery.
i love how this is informal & you’re not attacking the girls in anyway and making shady comments!! it’s important, especially if you’re new to kpop to realize that the beauty standards they have are unrealistic and many idols have plastic surgery.
I am inclined to agree with you however it has historically been a common thing in South Korea for parents to offer their kids plastic surgery as a graduation gift, so I wouldn’t really put it out of the question. Procedures are so quick, generally safe, high-quality, and cost-effective in South Korea that there is less of a barrier to getting these done, and South Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world after all. Not to say that everyone that lives there gets these procedures done but you know what I mean 😅
@@clemisery Exactly! Another example off the top of my head about teenage plastic surgery in Hollywood is Dove Cameron. She started getting surgery during her Disney days.
Bella Hadid , a super model admitted to having a nose job at 15yo it is common in the entertainment industry specifically it is South Korea lol , isn’t called the capital of plastic surgery ? Since it’s super common there.
Thanks author for this video, i love watching this type of videos, cause when u look at kpop idols u feel insecure, but in reality they achieve this type of look(goddess) with plastic or different procedures, they look pretty before tho, but more like ordinary people like all of us, with their own insecures
I love how this was in no way an attack video 😭❤️ Usually when people talking about Kpop ps, they sometimes insult the idol. (I’ve seen some videos of Wonyoung in this way) IVE is my ult group and this was very informative, and a video I was just curious of. (Entertainment purposes.) Thanks for not insulting and just informing us ❤️^^
@@sc0tty_dog. It’s visibly less bulbous and her alar base is narrower. That is not normal puberty, especially since your nose gets larger as you age, not smaller.
Plastic surgeries can be very dangerous especially to a young growing face. It would be an absolute miracle of modern science if kpop idols got plastic surgeries at anywhere near the rate you people claim without any major incidents. there would undoubtedly be several deaths or permanent disablities if it was true
Hardly - I don't think you understand JUST how many people get plastic surgery globally every single day. A very small minority end up with any issues or even infections from said plastic surgery, and most of those are easily remedied. Especially in South Korea, where many doctors specialise in PS and obviously entertainment companies don't hire the cheap, unskilled ones.
I think rhinoplasty is insanely common in kpop and its actually pretty obvious. Its uncommon to have BOTH a high nose bridge and projected tip for east asians, especially when the entire group all have it.
there’s one idol that i know for sure had a rhinoplasty (i actually suspect two, one after debut to correct a slight error in the first surgery) but his fandom shares one picture of him predebut (after the rhinoplasty) as evidence that he looks “exactly the same,” but there’s more rare predebut photos of him from the year before where his nose is a DRASTICALLY different shape….but im too nervous to correct people bc i don’t want to get called an anti im glad we can make this a more prevalent conversation because saying someone had surgery will only help the young girls and boys looking up to these idols and comparing themselves, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with getting plastic surgery
idk if she covered it. but ive seen ppl talk about wonys eyelids having more space on top than before esp on the top of the inner corner. ik the vid said the inner and outcorner are extended but I'm talking about the eyelid space.
i think its a bit hard to agree with some of these opinions because the predebut pics are so blurry, are in different lightings + use different makeup techniques, especially gaeul’s.
Oh dear, how can you expect an Asian to have naturally a high nose bridge, pronounced double eyelid and have a jaw so sharp and almost without angles on the side?
Wonyoung and Yujin are LITERALLY two exemples of how they were naturally beautiful. The point is not "have surgery to be pretty", but "how to capitalize beauty". If they can't sell through an idol's beauty, they can't help much on plastic surgery industry. Make "Yujin" more feminine sounds something disgusting cause she has always being praised for her androgenous beauty. While Wonyoung was "born to be center" so her plastic surgeries had no other explanation except for seeking maturity (which would come naturally with time) and make her even more under the "Korean beauty standards". My point is, an idol should NEVER receive hate for undergoing plastic surgery. HOWEVER, we shouldn't consider making literally TEENAGERS doing surgeries just to follow standards normal either. Some of them are literally KIDs for God's SAKE! There bodies are not even fully developed. I'm saying all of these because people seems to think you either have to hate on idols for plastic surgery or to find these standards normal. Literally throwing kids under a knife for sake of "selling beauty", and I say "selling beauty" cause they are already beautiful, but if the industry can't directly profit from that, there's no use.
the fact that people think wony hasn’t gotten anything done is so funny to me😭 she has always been super beautiful and the work done is subtle but your lips don’t just grow with age lmao. i feel so bad that leeseo has gotten stuff done though.. way too young, all of them are.
Please keep making these type of videos they’re very informing. Are you thinking about making an aespa one? I know karina, giselle and winter look really different so i wonder what they got. I wonder if ning is really fully natural like people say too. Her eyes, nose and lips do look the same to me but i think she may have gotten her jaw done in some way.
i’m not denying that she had surgery but i would just like to point out that in the pictures you used for yujin are when she gained some weight in izone giving her face a fuller look, there are more photos from pd48 etc where her face has a more similar shape to what it is now. she also had really bad eyesight (-9) so her glasses caused her eyes to look drastically smaller, plus her eye shape seems to change based on how puffy she is that day etc…there are also more predebut photos where her eyes aren’t as different compared to now.
Can u do this for newjeans too.I am not gonna lie i have felt insecure always while looking at kpop idols but yeah i know the procedures all done and its to keep their job going .Eventhpugh there are talented people in kpop , Some value visual more than that .like imagine training so hard and being talented but couldnt get in just for visual , so they go for surgeries .Its alright and shaming them for it is just disgusting as at the end of the day we all gotta keep ourselves updated for the job we are in .Also i stopped feeling insecure and focuse on how make myself better
I won't lie and say that they don't look amazing with the plastic surgery because they do They are stunning but they were also stunning before and it's honestly sad how most of the industry changed their natural appearance
Kpop idols don’t just use PS but they also have the most expensive luxurious skin treatments and use glutathione injections that makes their skin brighter. Also having surgery is common for middle school students in SK so comparing their predebut pictures is not always accurate
Well done research... They are all already pretty and cute before procedures... But they became prettier and gorgeous after it... And because of it... they became richer as hell 😂 Their Face is their Brand... 😂🎉
I've been saying for ages that Wonyoung got some work done on her face but istg her fans are the most delusional to ver exist 😭 like, gilr was pretty since day 1 she just got prettier bro, ain't nobody saying she was ugly before 🤦♀️ But this type of videos are very important for us girls who feel insecure ❤
Upto 2nd gen celebrities actually acknowledged plastic surgeries cause it was obvious. But now they target younger audiences and their insecurities to make them worship idols. So it is necessary to enlighten the kids and help them build their self esteem as these idols are entertainers and they aren’t perfect actual idols to obsess over! Specially some idols have all their hype around beauty like Wonyoung and Karina to a point its hideous cause both have full face hand restructured by expert surgeons. So its okay to look however you naturally look like and love that instead of always looking upto them
@@katgreer6113 yeah I guess coz I only casually saw the group and thought maybe she looked different brcoz of the weightloss but didn't really look into it as much
Many people may judge how they want but there is nothing wrong with doing plastic surgery, just like we all put on makeup to look prettier or decorate our rooms to be presentable, there is nothing wrong with wanting to look prettier than you already do. No one hates being pretty. IVE girls have always been pretty but now no one can deny that they are one of the prettiest groups out there.
this is a nice way of putting it thanks! also yes, they are very beautiful. well done work enhances the natural beauty you are born with and they are all stunning girls
@@expensivepink7 that is true because not everyone who had plastic surgery looks like Wonyoung or any Ive members. Plastic surgery is a normal thing as long as you are not forced or have bad effects. People should normalize not dragging idols for plastic surgery when they turned out pretty.
Maybe it's normal for someone with no religion but in my religion especially it is forbidden to change what god has made for you. No offense but good for you if that is what you think.
@@usamahazman3196 I am catholic. And in my religion it is not forbidden just like putting on makeup and ear piercings and maybe that's why I think there is no problem with it if you are satisfied with how you look other than not liking some features on your body.
I get the mindset but you're comparing something that most likely is permanent with something you can change at any time Especially with the way beauty standards change it's really not worth much to opt for permanent means to enhance your face. Unless you think you'll be permanently happy I do not recommend surgery to combat societal pressures at all
@@__Liza__ all three of them gorgeuos af , we've been seing wonyoung anf yujin ever since they're 14 and saw liz's pre debut self , all of them would've grown up to be extremely gorgeous girls , even without surgery , idk why you're spewing hate .
They look more like 7s before plastic surgery, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's sad that people have to get plastic surgery in order to do a job and make a living.
i love this video! you're so respectful while still being analytical and objective. most kpop stans just jump to say OH BUT THEY'RE PLASTIC anytime dives praise their visuals like??? 😭 it's why i don't take these people seriously like no be quiet.
THANK YOU FOR THE WONYOUNG STUFF!!! i knew about the buccal fat, and lip fillers, but i wasn't sure about what else though i know she looked drastically different from la vie en rose
Leeseo and wonyoung having plastic surgery just makes me sad. She's too young for one. I just found out another reason why minors (especially those below 16) shouldn't be in the K-pop industry.
99.99% of idols have some kind of PS if not cosmetic surgery done to their face. Botox or lip fillers are already so darn common even among normal folks not to mention an industry that relied on beauty to keep you relevant. What I like about kpop idol plastic surgery is that they were so subtle but enhance their beauty so much.
I have some major apprehensions about buccal fat removal on Kpop idols in general. Firstly, you are right, unless the weightloss is extreme (like 20 - 30 kgs) you don't lose that much fat from your face. Especiall for these idols because they've always been so skinny. But, from the buccal fat removals I have seen in general, the "after" often leave the cheek area too hollow. In comparison, idols like Jang Wonyoung don't have that "hollow look". So I am wondering if the procedure has certain levels and the Hollywood ones are just too extreme.
Yujin, Leeseo and Liz looks the same though. I feel like it’s mostly the change in makeup style for them, because if you see them without makeup they look identical to their younger selfs but ofc with more maturity due to the increase in age. For eg, I’m adding the link of the Yujin’s audition video, she’s like 12/13 here and looks the same as now ruclips.net/video/bslFpLVka58/видео.htmlsi=_0QFroRBgVEByunL You say she got her lips done but the pic you used was her with that faded lips makeup style that was popular at one point. If you see her audition video where she is without any makeup, her lips are the same as now. Even her nose and eyes as well. Just saying that I honestly see it as a change in makeup style for her. Maybe it’ll be better comparing their bare face then vs their bare face now cause it makes more sense. Also, I have nothing against plastic surgery, I know it’s a common thing in S.Korea and it does not make me love an idol less but I know a plastic surgery when I see one and I honestly don’t think neither Liz, Leeseo or Yujin got any done❤
This was a very informative and eye opening video. Sometimes I find myself comparing my looks to these celebrities but it is unhealthy. They all looked beautiful before and after!
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Kpop idols DO NOT look like regular everyday koreans I don't understand how people don't immediately assume they had surgery
Because every country has beautiful people, there are idols that are naturally beautiful, so think that every idol has surgery is rude.
@@dhsf5937 nobody said korea doesn't have naturally pretty people. but idols specifically have a very sterile look that is pretty much impossible to obtain naturally without any enhancements. sorry if this offends you, but if you stan an idol they most likely got surgery in one way or another. Acknowledging them having had surgery doesn't make them any less pretty either.
i feel like people should always assume their fav idol has surgery because of how calculated and fake this industry is….
Yep. Look at how plastic surgery is so normalised globally now too. You see even Americans getting stuff done in their late teens.
western celebrities are exactly the same, not a single pop star hasn't had surgery eg billie eilish, taylor swift, selena, dua lipa, beyonce, rihanna etc
@@yaramkg5057 yeah but in the west its almost like a crime, people hate anyone who gets plastic surgery, look at what the karjenners are going through. But in SK, its considered normal.
@@wiseversa135 thats not really true when most of these influencers are seen as goals and girls follow their trends and literally get fillers and bbls to look like them? if they hated people who get plastic surgery then these influencers wouldn't have their jobs and men wouldn't be bending over backwards to have them. and in sk its more normalised for sure because they have a limited set standard for ideal beauty (compared to the west there's more varieties of standards and trends)
@@yaramkg5057 billie eilish has not had plastic surgery lmao
Wonyoung her surgeries were some of the BEST ever done. She has truly enhanced her beauty.
this is the mindset people need to be having
@@radsiickdefinitely. But at the same time, people should also know that you also have to have a good foundation for it to enhance your beauty.
That's why some idols look botched.
@@donttalk372the botched bit made me giggle
@@suyunenergy3999 it's the truth tho.
Some idols look good on the phone, but in real life, you can tell that they are not looking the way a human is supposed to.
They give Uncanny valley vibes.
@@donttalk372 true you can tell the surgery’s when you see them in person
what pisses me off is when people say they couldn’t have had surgery because they were so young and it’s all puberty. kpop stans are delusional.
They start getting suggested surgery well before debut. It's insane that these children are essentially being pushed into nose jobs, botox, and implants before they're even 18. The culture around that will never make sense to me.
yes its getting annoying atp, denying it is so dumb tbh
I dont understand why many fans have to be delusional and denial about surgery.
I mean they aren’t delusional for thinking that. It’s definitely crazy that these girls are having surgeries at such young ages.
Not all of them, but definitely the ones who believe their fav idols are completely natural when they’re obviously not.
like im literally the same age as wony and i cannot imagine to experience so many plastic surgeries at such a young age. that's crazy poor girl
She was so insecureeeee.
But at least she like her look now
@@annanowak9620 That's true... Cause, how can someone be secure or can love herself with those standards? The worst part is the fact that asians don't have naturally those physical features.
Nothing poor girl she did that herself
@@user-ff7fs4sj7r ahahahahaha yeah everything in kpop is done by the will of idols and idols only. ur so stupid bro
@@user-ff7fs4sj7r she was a child. Sure, she probably "agreed", but especially younger ppl are pressured into doing that a lot.
for everyone who has been feeling ugly bcs of kpop this one's for you
Sorry but that's cope. Even with the best surgeons in the world, these girls (especially Wonyoung and Yujin) could have never looked the way they do now if it weren't for them winning the body proportions and facial harmony lottery to begin with. This is something no money can buy.
@@AD-ry7br agree, people who say this have no idea how well done cosmetic procedures work at all. you actually cannot just turn an actually ugly person into someone at the top of the whole world in terms of looks in a few surgeries. people say the same about bella blah blah yes there is surgery but if anyone could be wonyoung level with a couple nips and tucks ... then there'd be a lot more people to compare wonyoung to irl lmao
Y’all are acting as if the girls were horrendous before surgery like the girls were actually 10x better without the surgery especially Wonyoung and Yujin these girls had all eyes on them the minute they walked into produce 48 because of their gorgeous beauty and long legs
@@_Wonnielvrs
Yep. Out of 96 other girls, Wonyoung and Yujin were ranked 4th and 5th for visuals by other contestants in Produce48, right after the likes of freaking Yiren and Minju, even though they were barely into their teens. They beat even Sakura and Hyewon.
Heck, at a middle school graduation full of 15-16 year old girls (including her own sister), it's 12 year old Wonyoung who got singled out for her looks by a Starship talent scout.
Pretending that the only thing that distinguishes average girls from these two is a good surgeon is delulu at best.
@@AD-ry7br True these girls would’ve still been known as the biggest visuals of 4th gen the surgery only enhanced and matured their features
I want wongyoung's surgeon number asap 😅😂
Girl no one can't salvage your face
@@justine6992 so rude for what?
@@justine6992 that's a double negative, so they can + no one can salvage that grammar ho
@@justine6992 mean asf for no reason
@@kpoppized2bcuz they r a boot licker and will do anything to defend their idol that could give no fucks about them 😂😂
I dont think there is a concept of natural beauty in korea. There is nothing wrong with enhancing your feature but the fact that every 1 in 5 women have done plastic surgery is insane. At this point all of their noses look the same.
I guess that explains why all of the members get progessively more a like in their looks. I mean in their latest mvs sometimes its hard to tell who is who. Even they themselves get confused 😂
What they dont recognize each other
@@Freeliving111 i mean in a good way. I love them to bits. There's a bts where they joked that they looked.like each other especially in accendio mv with the same red hair
When I listen to Accendio on Spotify there is a still screen saver shot and I cannot for the life of me tell who is who apart from Rei who has different hair😂 well and I can see Wonyoung because she is extra skinny
Y'all,maybe it's also good to point out that there are people who are generally good at recognising faces (e.g. me,lol)
To me,even with plastic surgeries only Gaeul and Leeseo look alike in the group (even from the debut it's really evident)
In other cases,they pretty much all look different, even though similarities can be noticeable
Like the amount of hate I've seen people get for pointing this out is crazy. Like just admit it, your faves's beauty is not natural....
Around 90% of celebrities have had plastic surgery so it's better to not idolise people so much cause even the prettiest people weren't even pretty to begin with 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly. And fans get offended on their behalf but that’s also part of the problem. Noticing or recognizing someone’s procedures doesn’t mean they’re any less of a person, and plastic surgery should not be seen as a negative thing especially if done safely and in moderation (because done in excess it is an addiction)
The reason why ppl get mad is not because of the surgery analysis itself, but because haters use it as a way to drag idols for it.
No Wonyoung got dragged everywhere for getting surgery she was called a plastic monster and every time someone would compliments her beauty people would start saying it’s all surgery and that she wouldn’t look good without the surgeries other comments like "Wonyoung is living proof that you’re not ugly you’re just poor" or comparing her to other idols especially her members
(I mentioned wonyoung because everyone thought the IVE members were natural except Wony and she’s also the one who’s been getting the most hate for it)
@@izzysplanet69 Well obviously people hate them for it.
Idols and celebrities are constantly perpetuating society's beauty standard and using it to their benefit.
And that beauty standard affects EVERY single person (especially women) 🙄
This is so sad, these girls are barely in their mid 20s.
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not even mid , oldest is 22🥲
I blame the parents for allowing this just because they want a celebrity kid. It's kind of messed up.
you'll be fine
the parents don't really get publicity tbh.. @@georgebeckons539
Aside from botox and hfm, wonyoung also got mandibuloplasty and buccal fat removal, you could not achieve that kind of v-shape face with only non-invasive procedures. Its the same case with actress Roh Jeong Eui from Heirarchy. Nevertheless, that definitely upgraded their visuals to the max level.
I don't think wonyoung is plastic surgery. I think it's mostly fillers and other minimal invasive procedures.
@@MyUmer10 that's your opinion, not mine❤
@@MyUmer10 me when I lie
I agree
U can tell because is u look at her jaw from the side or when she’s smiling. U can see some fat under it except the front of her chin. It looks weird and botched
i find it so sad that so many young idols get persuaded to get fillers, implants, surgeries, etc. by greedy adults who want to make money through them.. and not just idols, but south korea in general, it's an epidemic over there everyone is filled with plastic 😭
They got persuaded but who don't want to look pretty. I think they are more than willing to do it especially since you are artist in plastic surgeries nation.
@@usamahazman3196 well yes but i don't think any 14-16yo should be thinking of or directly getting their face permanently modified.. vast majority of them wouldn't do it if they hadn't been criticized for their looks
bro.. no one is natural in this industry 😭
Sometimes I wonder if there are any without procedures done
Right.. it's like humans are too ugly to be good
@@1675loof probably Kaylee from vcha I can't think of anyone else
Frrr
@@Peak_ryuidk maybe Ella gross and Eunwoo.
I'm not a fan of IVE but i thought that Wonyoung was the only one who got more than 1 ps and Liz and Leeseo had only nose job... Damn korean ps is on another level, all of them had their noses and eyes done at least
MOST east asians have small eyes, if they're not using tape for double eyelid then it's probably plastic surgery
You should know 80% of koreans at least get their eyes done.
@@babyosa5629 yeah I do know about that but I'm just surprised how subtle some surgeries are, wouldn't ever tell that there was so much different procedures you could do to your face if it wasn't for videos like this
99% of the idols have done those surgeries. You cant look at your idols and think that they haven't done anything. Also, Most of them are already beautiful they just got their features a little more refined. Tiny but changes.
Your favs gots ps too?
Leeseo was so beautiful naturally
honestly i could barely see the difference, plastic surgery or not shes soo cute!
@@yungypik4354 no bro ....no
@@MeIsMe32??
@@carat-17m he said he could barely see the difference and thats not true
@@MeIsMe32how are you gonna tell them what THEY see? 💀
I like the fact that you don't talk bad about them like youre just telling what they have redone without being mean about it .I usually don't like watching this type of videos bcs of this but I think you did very well!!good job💕
Yes she really showed appreciation for the looks of all the members before and after ❤
@@Kalidreamine ikr!!
I agree , i hope they do New jeans next
can you do le sserafim next bc I have been a sakura fan since 2017 but her face has completely Changed. She looks wayyy older now and it’s honestly heartbreaking
It’s been 7 years since 2017. She’s gonna look different regardless
@@wendystewart2088 she still looks drastically older and different from even 2021…. Of course she’s gonna look different but it doesn’t change that fact that she drastically altered multiple parts of face for her hybe debut . those changes don’t just come suddenly over a 6 month hiatus
@@latteyujin I suspect that her surgery was meant to switch her visual from cute to chic to fit Lesserafim's more bold concept.
yeah, she was so pretty in iz*one but since 2022 she changed
She cant stay Young forever. She cant be always 20 and cute.
Ofc she Got ps but also aged because she is not 20 anymore
see now? we're not ugly, we just can't afford to pay those surgeries, so nobody needs to feel ugly bc of kpop anymore, bc even though i love kpop, most of the beauty in this industry is fake
As if they were ugly before paying for surgeries lol
@@oUtlurkingbffr some of them if not majority of them were mid they had some cute features and some “undesirable” features
@@mimi_imfat i disagree. They're all atleast pretty. Maybe not the prettiest but definitely good looking already. And this commenter is especially talking about looking ugly. Not "mid". So idk what you're trying to argue about
Orrr you're not actually ugly but merely influenced by the beauty standards of korean media... Everyone has unique features and KBS shouldn't have to dictate whether or not you can be considered pretty 🙂 (Otherwise, might as well just ask AI for an opinion)
No one is ugly, just broke
Wonyoung also got her eyelids done. you can see it very cleary at her inner corner of her eyes
tbh this popular wonyoungism or wtv its called is straight up bullsht. people try so hard to look like her and want to have the unnatural facial features she has now (that are all just ps), they spread hoax about her that she is naturally pretty like that and even compare her to other members of her group saying that shes the prettiest of them all (while the fact is that she had the most plastic surgeries done out of all members of ive💀). it also brings down ALOT of ppls confidence now and make them think that they cant be an idol if they dont look like her.
THIS. They're all acting like "puberty did something to her" "she loves herself" "followed these simple steps for a glow up like wonyoung"
But all she's done is having tons of plastic surgeries. She probably loves herself now but she definitely didn't before
@@1to13s HELPP
I don't really get it why are they calling it "wonyoungism" when it's basically just taking care of yourself 😭
I don't really get it why are they calling it "wonyoungism" when it's basically just taking care of yourself 😭
I am a huge Wony fan and have never denied all her PS, it is actually amazing to see how skilled those surgeons were, but a bit sad knowing she got all these procedures being so young. She was gorgeous from the beginning, but I wonder, how would an average person would look after similar improvements.
Most people who don't want rhinoplasty usually gets an alarplasty which narrows down the width of the nostrils with tiplasty because it heals faster, less invasive and looks less obvious. I thought leeseo also might have gotten that, either way it really suits her face.
10:59 i think wonys original face had more character to it, her smile stood out. she does look conventionally prettier now , which is the aim of plastic surgery
I still appreciate natural beauty over plastic beauty.
looking at leeseo predebut pics it makes me sad that kpop is so obsessed with straight light eyebrows because her natural ones are so thick and beautiful!!
real question is - what the hell happened to Lesseo’s brows? 🤨 they used to be so full and bushy now they’re gone
she probably had them thinned, bleached and drawn longer with an eyebrow pencil
for female idols i think they usually prefer lighter eyebrows
Kpop stylists always mess up eyebrows
She’s a minor you have to be 18 to get surgery do your search first
Pretty sure Wy also did something to her eyes (upper bletheroplasty?) Because her eyelids look less "swollen" and even more defined.
I geniuinely think that her face is a work of art, she's exceptionnal. But I really wonder how it affected her self esteem, since she was very young :( being also born the 31st of august 2004, if people forced me (literally or not) to alter my whole face, it would have destroyed me. She's a warrior for going through all this for her job.
the way none of them needed surgery its sad how common and accessible ps is in korea
Haerin newjeans is so pretty but we can't deny the fullness of filler, eye surgeries, etc. She didn't blink as much as normal person is the side effect. Kyujin nmixx got some fillers too in her debut era but thankfully she's stopped. Its crazy how people just commenting like minji's arm or hanni's shoulder. This type of comment that make the idol done some surgeries, filler, or bottox.
tbh I think haerin is one of the more natural idols out there. her eyes look the same, but she wears a LOT of makeup and contacts that change her appearance totally. if you see her barefaced, she looked the same as pre debut but with lighter skin.
@@sakuravelvetyeah her contact lenses are huge 😭
Why would starship make them get surgery like Yujin and Wonyoung were already known for their gorgeous visuals before IVE and starship making them get surgery makes no sense to me 😭😭😭
Because pretty is not enough. It's competitive industry so they need to be the '' prettiest'. The prettier they are= more fans = more jobs= more money
Because agencies always want to specific look for their idols. They don't care for unique beauty.
with how competitive the industry is, it’s not surprising that agencies would want the visuals of their idols to be perfect. especially since nowadays, particularly hybe, focus more on visuals and not actual talent
@@hieovri HYBE also focuses on talent all their bg’s +NewJeans and maybe even ILLIT (if they continue to train their vocals) are talented
@@_Wonnielvrs hybe is no where near the level of yg, sm, and jyp. now I won’t say anything about their boy groups because im not that interested in hybe boy groups, but they are better than hybes girl groups by a mile even if some of them can’t sing. newjeans are great performers but their vocals are below average at best and illit, other than wonhee and moka could have been decent if they went with a girl crush concept + minju, yunah, and even iroha’s vocals shine more in that sense
I really don’t understand why everyone is praising wonyoung as if she wasnt a literal minor when she started to get surgery..
Umm isn’t it a little too obvious that she got it when she joined IVE because it’s illegal for you to get surgery at 17 you have to be 18 in Korea
@@KillHhhabbZhtz-r5g you can get it with parental consent and in the uk you can take a test to see ur maturity level if u wanna get it without consent
She did it to herself and is already an adult with lots of fans denying her ps that's why
i know everyone’s saying wonyoung’s procedures look really good, but i’m not so sure anymore. i think they were around the time she debuted with ive, but it seems to me that her procedures have gone a little too far. imo, she just looks kind of uncanny now. it’s especially obvious in irl videos. she kinda looks like a caricature now and it’s kinda sad to see how far it’s gone.
I feel the same way. In photoshoots and in perfect lighting she looks gorgeous, but in another cases she's a bit odd looking. And how her facial features changes from time to time in strange way that you can't even explain what exactly happened just adds uncanny effect
She's definitely pretty and all but she never makes me mesmerized or genuinely think "wow she's gorgeous" because of these
Some of it, especially for Rei and Yujin, seems to be a result of makeup. Don't underestimate the power of makeup. Not everything is plastic surgery.
I don't disagree but some changes simply can't be achieved with only makeup. You can't create a nose bridge that was never there, create more scleral show or massively increase the size of your lips with simple makeup. Still, all the IVE girls were clearly beauties even before their surgeries, there's only so much a surgeon can do if you don't already have a balanced base to begin with
Delusional
True with contouring. But certain things cannot be changed even with makeup. You can't make your nose much higher with purely makeup.
keep lying to urself.
girl get real. idols get everything done
So sad leeseo changed her whole face so young. I think she changed her eyes, nose, shape of her face and filler in her lips. Also skin bleaching
Yet wonyoung stans still constantly insist, that she's "all natural through puberty".. I didn't know you face could get smaller throughout your puberty🤪 lmao
It can become smaller via weight loss. Mine did. Weight loss can change your face. People would think I had surgery. My eyes became bigger and my noes became smaller. I'm not saying she did have surgery but it is possible
Yk that it's not impossible that you grow into your feature.
It happens a lot and I saw it myself.
My sister's nose grew first which led to (obviously ) a big nose and 2 years later it looked completely different like she got a nosejob
Tbh slowly changing features while u grow up is not completely impossible. When I was a kid my nose was way flatter but when I grew up my nose bridge was higher. It depends on genes ig
Its gain and lost weight
@@dangerzzzone2925 was your weight loss quite significant? like 10 or more kgs lost? genuinely asking because wonyoung has been similarly skinny her idol life so that is not possible (her weight loss changing eye and nose shape).
I understand there isn't much that is wrong with ps but i do get sad when i see young kpop fans say things like "their surgeries enhanced their looks so much" or "i need the same surgeon" these idols live in constant pressure a lot of them probably don't even choose what ps to get but the company does, they looked just fine before those surgeries
It still surprises me that there are people who refuse to accept that Wonyoung has surgeries, they are so obvious.
I don't know if you can deny that she is beautiful and fantastic, but the botox on her lips, cheekbones and different parts of her face is too obvious, And she's too young, in about 10 years she might not look so good all this.
And it surprises me because Wonyoung was always beautiful and since her debut she was the most popular because of her face, so what made her want to have surgery? It is very questionable that a beautiful young woman would want to have surgery.
Very informative thank you. Pls do aespa next they're my ult😊
i love how this is informal & you’re not attacking the girls in anyway and making shady comments!! it’s important, especially if you’re new to kpop to realize that the beauty standards they have are unrealistic and many idols have plastic surgery.
I find it hard to believe because of the age of some of them, especially Leeseo
Plastic surgery in teenagers is more common than you think, unfortunately
I am inclined to agree with you however it has historically been a common thing in South Korea for parents to offer their kids plastic surgery as a graduation gift, so I wouldn’t really put it out of the question. Procedures are so quick, generally safe, high-quality, and cost-effective in South Korea that there is less of a barrier to getting these done, and South Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world after all. Not to say that everyone that lives there gets these procedures done but you know what I mean 😅
@@clemisery Exactly! Another example off the top of my head about teenage plastic surgery in Hollywood is Dove Cameron. She started getting surgery during her Disney days.
Bella Hadid , a super model admitted to having a nose job at 15yo it is common in the entertainment industry specifically it is South Korea lol , isn’t called the capital of plastic surgery ? Since it’s super common there.
@@rreennaad its not common, but not uncommon either.
Thanks author for this video, i love watching this type of videos, cause when u look at kpop idols u feel insecure, but in reality they achieve this type of look(goddess) with plastic or different procedures, they look pretty before tho, but more like ordinary people like all of us, with their own insecures
I really like yujins old nose and jawline tho, it gives her a boyish charm ❤
@@ev4d0r3 You know, I've always thought the exact same of Yujin’s visuals. I’m in love with her.
I love how this was in no way an attack video 😭❤️
Usually when people talking about Kpop ps, they sometimes insult the idol. (I’ve seen some videos of Wonyoung in this way)
IVE is my ult group and this was very informative, and a video I was just curious of. (Entertainment purposes.) Thanks for not insulting and just informing us ❤️^^
those eye surgeries are game changer thougg
Why they did jaw bone shaving early they will regret after ages....
I think it'll be interesting to see the side effects of surgery years down the line.
Omg leeso was so young when she had done that surgery, k-beauty is so harsh that even a literal kid have to change its features
I genuinely don’t believe she’s had any surgeries I think she’s the only member without any
@@sc0tty_dog. Her nose is undeniable.
@@katr_i_na I don’t think so
@@sc0tty_dog. It’s visibly less bulbous and her alar base is narrower. That is not normal puberty, especially since your nose gets larger as you age, not smaller.
Plastic surgeries can be very dangerous especially to a young growing face. It would be an absolute miracle of modern science if kpop idols got plastic surgeries at anywhere near the rate you people claim without any major incidents. there would undoubtedly be several deaths or permanent disablities if it was true
Hardly - I don't think you understand JUST how many people get plastic surgery globally every single day. A very small minority end up with any issues or even infections from said plastic surgery, and most of those are easily remedied. Especially in South Korea, where many doctors specialise in PS and obviously entertainment companies don't hire the cheap, unskilled ones.
I think rhinoplasty is insanely common in kpop and its actually pretty obvious. Its uncommon to have BOTH a high nose bridge and projected tip for east asians, especially when the entire group all have it.
there’s one idol that i know for sure had a rhinoplasty (i actually suspect two, one after debut to correct a slight error in the first surgery) but his fandom shares one picture of him predebut (after the rhinoplasty) as evidence that he looks “exactly the same,” but there’s more rare predebut photos of him from the year before where his nose is a DRASTICALLY different shape….but im too nervous to correct people bc i don’t want to get called an anti
im glad we can make this a more prevalent conversation because saying someone had surgery will only help the young girls and boys looking up to these idols and comparing themselves, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with getting plastic surgery
If you don't mind sharing who do you suspect cause I have an idea lol
is this heeseung
Most of them get rhinoplasty. Jungkook got a nose implant for sure.
please keep spreading the truth and just ignore those people who don't know how to face the reality!!!
idk if she covered it. but ive seen ppl talk about wonys eyelids having more space on top than before esp on the top of the inner corner. ik the vid said the inner and outcorner are extended but I'm talking about the eyelid space.
Y'all it's not your earphones/phone, it's the video that suddenly turns the volume down at 10:59
not to worry !
i think its a bit hard to agree with some of these opinions because the predebut pics are so blurry, are in different lightings + use different makeup techniques, especially gaeul’s.
Nah, you can still tell
Oh dear, how can you expect an Asian to have naturally a high nose bridge, pronounced double eyelid and have a jaw so sharp and almost without angles on the side?
Wonyoung and Yujin are LITERALLY two exemples of how they were naturally beautiful. The point is not "have surgery to be pretty", but "how to capitalize beauty". If they can't sell through an idol's beauty, they can't help much on plastic surgery industry.
Make "Yujin" more feminine sounds something disgusting cause she has always being praised for her androgenous beauty. While Wonyoung was "born to be center" so her plastic surgeries had no other explanation except for seeking maturity (which would come naturally with time) and make her even more under the "Korean beauty standards".
My point is, an idol should NEVER receive hate for undergoing plastic surgery. HOWEVER, we shouldn't consider making literally TEENAGERS doing surgeries just to follow standards normal either. Some of them are literally KIDs for God's SAKE! There bodies are not even fully developed.
I'm saying all of these because people seems to think you either have to hate on idols for plastic surgery or to find these standards normal. Literally throwing kids under a knife for sake of "selling beauty", and I say "selling beauty" cause they are already beautiful, but if the industry can't directly profit from that, there's no use.
Wonyoung looked like Jisoo when she was younger before the surgery or procedure. I actually think she looks better back then 😂
honestly wonyoung is prettier than jisoo
@@wonybread shut up this is why people hate wonyoung, her fans give her a bad reputation
@@AbienceOfficial fr tho.. her stans r so annoying
@@Besilia fr one doxxed me because i said that yujin was my bias
tbh , the work they’ve done is amazing . I can’t even say if they had something 😯 Them surgeons are killing it
the fact that people think wony hasn’t gotten anything done is so funny to me😭 she has always been super beautiful and the work done is subtle but your lips don’t just grow with age lmao. i feel so bad that leeseo has gotten stuff done though.. way too young, all of them are.
Wonyoung got a whole facelift, in fact in some pics of her the scar was visible.
Please keep making these type of videos they’re very informing. Are you thinking about making an aespa one? I know karina, giselle and winter look really different so i wonder what they got. I wonder if ning is really fully natural like people say too. Her eyes, nose and lips do look the same to me but i think she may have gotten her jaw done in some way.
i’m not denying that she had surgery but i would just like to point out that in the pictures you used for yujin are when she gained some weight in izone giving her face a fuller look, there are more photos from pd48 etc where her face has a more similar shape to what it is now. she also had really bad eyesight (-9) so her glasses caused her eyes to look drastically smaller, plus her eye shape seems to change based on how puffy she is that day etc…there are also more predebut photos where her eyes aren’t as different compared to now.
these girls are so beautiful, also korean surgeons are friggin amazing when doing subtle changes and enhancing what the patient already have
Can u do this for newjeans too.I am not gonna lie i have felt insecure always while looking at kpop idols but yeah i know the procedures all done and its to keep their job going .Eventhpugh there are talented people in kpop , Some value visual more than that .like imagine training so hard and being talented but couldnt get in just for visual , so they go for surgeries .Its alright and shaming them for it is just disgusting as at the end of the day we all gotta keep ourselves updated for the job we are in .Also i stopped feeling insecure and focuse on how make myself better
it breaks my heart that these girls went through postsurgical pain even though they were naturally beautiful.........
Can you do Lesserafim Eunchae. She's noticable changes recently, especially her nose. She's one of my faves, so I always notice her most.
I can't believe they made leeseo get plastic surgery she's my age she was only 14 at debut 😭😭😭 either way she is so cute and pretty she didn't need it
I won't lie and say that they don't look amazing with the plastic surgery because they do
They are stunning but they were also stunning before and it's honestly sad how most of the industry changed their natural appearance
Kpop idols don’t just use PS but they also have the most expensive luxurious skin treatments and use glutathione injections that makes their skin brighter. Also having surgery is common for middle school students in SK so comparing their predebut pictures is not always accurate
Well done research...
They are all already pretty and cute before procedures... But they became prettier and gorgeous after it...
And because of it... they became richer as hell 😂 Their Face is their Brand... 😂🎉
wonyoung's surgeon is literally god cuz how did he make her look like that i need his number asap
I've been saying for ages that Wonyoung got some work done on her face but istg her fans are the most delusional to ver exist 😭 like, gilr was pretty since day 1 she just got prettier bro, ain't nobody saying she was ugly before 🤦♀️
But this type of videos are very important for us girls who feel insecure ❤
Rei so cute tho, her round face and head goes well together and she's just very cute altogether
a gentle reminder that you're beautiful the way you are and if you got plastic surgery, its normal and you're also beautiful ♡
Thank you, great video ❤
I think some of these girls had such minor surgeries that nobody could tell if they had surgeries or not.
Upto 2nd gen celebrities actually acknowledged plastic surgeries cause it was obvious. But now they target younger audiences and their insecurities to make them worship idols. So it is necessary to enlighten the kids and help them build their self esteem as these idols are entertainers and they aren’t perfect actual idols to obsess over! Specially some idols have all their hype around beauty like Wonyoung and Karina to a point its hideous cause both have full face hand restructured by expert surgeons. So its okay to look however you naturally look like and love that instead of always looking upto them
7:10 the picture on the first left is literally minji from new jeans
( ik it’s not her i am saying it looks like her)
Help if no one had told me about wonyoungs surgery i wouldn't have known she had it👏👏👏👏"W" PLASTIC SURGEON!!
wonyoung had stuff done but not necessarily the things the person in this video is saying lol. her surgeon(s) are incredible tho, yes
bruh
really? I think its super obvious she got her whole face done. but that's just because ive seen her since her izone days. the difference is glaring.
@@katgreer6113 yeah I guess coz I only casually saw the group and thought maybe she looked different brcoz of the weightloss but didn't really look into it as much
The amount of clocks is insane
The video reminds me a lot of Lory Hill. Great job and good research. Keep on going
respectfully this person has less than 1% of the expertise in this as lorry there is a lot of misinformation here
Many people may judge how they want but there is nothing wrong with doing plastic surgery, just like we all put on makeup to look prettier or decorate our rooms to be presentable, there is nothing wrong with wanting to look prettier than you already do. No one hates being pretty. IVE girls have always been pretty but now no one can deny that they are one of the prettiest groups out there.
this is a nice way of putting it thanks! also yes, they are very beautiful. well done work enhances the natural beauty you are born with and they are all stunning girls
@@expensivepink7 that is true because not everyone who had plastic surgery looks like Wonyoung or any Ive members. Plastic surgery is a normal thing as long as you are not forced or have bad effects. People should normalize not dragging idols for plastic surgery when they turned out pretty.
Maybe it's normal for someone with no religion but in my religion especially it is forbidden to change what god has made for you. No offense but good for you if that is what you think.
@@usamahazman3196 I am catholic. And in my religion it is not forbidden just like putting on makeup and ear piercings and maybe that's why I think there is no problem with it if you are satisfied with how you look other than not liking some features on your body.
I get the mindset but you're comparing something that most likely is permanent with something you can change at any time
Especially with the way beauty standards change it's really not worth much to opt for permanent means to enhance your face. Unless you think you'll be permanently happy I do not recommend surgery to combat societal pressures at all
I think many people are forgetting that wonyoung, liz, and yunjin were all solid 8-9s before and turned into 11s after the procedures.
No they weren't and still aren't 8's
Weird asf to talk about beauty in such an objective way. Ofc people would disagree with you if you use a number to describe beauty.
@@__Liza__ all three of them gorgeuos af , we've been seing wonyoung anf yujin ever since they're 14 and saw liz's pre debut self , all of them would've grown up to be extremely gorgeous girls , even without surgery , idk why you're spewing hate .
They look more like 7s before plastic surgery, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's sad that people have to get plastic surgery in order to do a job and make a living.
@ idk what you mean they all had insane visuals even before ps
i love this video! you're so respectful while still being analytical and objective. most kpop stans just jump to say OH BUT THEY'RE PLASTIC anytime dives praise their visuals like??? 😭 it's why i don't take these people seriously like no be quiet.
9:40 that's who Wendy turning into now
THANK YOU FOR THE WONYOUNG STUFF!!! i knew about the buccal fat, and lip fillers, but i wasn't sure about what else though i know she looked drastically different from la vie en rose
Leeseo and wonyoung having plastic surgery just makes me sad. She's too young for one. I just found out another reason why minors (especially those below 16) shouldn't be in the K-pop industry.
99.99% of idols have some kind of PS if not cosmetic surgery done to their face. Botox or lip fillers are already so darn common even among normal folks not to mention an industry that relied on beauty to keep you relevant.
What I like about kpop idol plastic surgery is that they were so subtle but enhance their beauty so much.
I hope you make this a series since its kinds interesting for me honestly
Can you do aespa and newjeans please?
Newjeans doesn't have ps
@@Haerincon they did especially minji
@@Haerincon they did, hanni has very changed
@@Haerinconthat's.. an obvious lie
@@Ren-nu9hw no they just lost weight and wear a lot of makeup
I'd love to see more of these type of videos : 3
wow, i haven't been following any kpop for a few years and yujin and wonyoung look shockingly different from how i remembered back then.
This video is very informative! Tyyyyy
atp every kpop idol has gotten some kind of procedure done to their nose
I have some major apprehensions about buccal fat removal on Kpop idols in general. Firstly, you are right, unless the weightloss is extreme (like 20 - 30 kgs) you don't lose that much fat from your face. Especiall for these idols because they've always been so skinny. But, from the buccal fat removals I have seen in general, the "after" often leave the cheek area too hollow. In comparison, idols like Jang Wonyoung don't have that "hollow look". So I am wondering if the procedure has certain levels and the Hollywood ones are just too extreme.
Yujin, Leeseo and Liz looks the same though. I feel like it’s mostly the change in makeup style for them, because if you see them without makeup they look identical to their younger selfs but ofc with more maturity due to the increase in age.
For eg, I’m adding the link of the Yujin’s audition video, she’s like 12/13 here and looks the same as now
ruclips.net/video/bslFpLVka58/видео.htmlsi=_0QFroRBgVEByunL
You say she got her lips done but the pic you used was her with that faded lips makeup style that was popular at one point. If you see her audition video where she is without any makeup, her lips are the same as now. Even her nose and eyes as well. Just saying that I honestly see it as a change in makeup style for her. Maybe it’ll be better comparing their bare face then vs their bare face now cause it makes more sense.
Also, I have nothing against plastic surgery, I know it’s a common thing in S.Korea and it does not make me love an idol less but I know a plastic surgery when I see one and I honestly don’t think neither Liz, Leeseo or Yujin got any done❤
Beauties before and after surgery!
This was a very informative and eye opening video. Sometimes I find myself comparing my looks to these celebrities but it is unhealthy. They all looked beautiful before and after!
They’re all so pretty before and after 💗
Heya comeback really says how Leeseo change her face. From round face to thin face. Liz also losing weight yet her face still the same.
9:24 oh my god..