There are so many haters of electric bikes in the comments. No one is forcing you to buy. Personally, I think these make way more sense than the 20 -30K electric motorcycles. These are meant for the city. They look smart and are easy to charge. They are also British. Why bother with electric bikes at all? Because our government signed us up to net zero by 2050. Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame the politicians if you don't like it.
It is expensive to buy, but cheap to run, so that may balance out costs somewhat over a long period. Hub motor means no chain or belt drive to maintain.
Kinda cool but just not for me even as a city commuter I'd opt for a Honda Mini-moto (modifed for more power) or a scooter. Or realistically just a CB300 at half the cost or there about. My modified Honda monkey will do 60-65mph and gets 120mpg. 60 mile round trip to work frequently on it.
Options is the point. I'd love this as a second bike. Practically zero maintenance, and practically no degradation if it sits for a while (whereas the fuel in a petrol bike will separate if it sits too long).
Ideal for short distance commuting and running to the shops on, EXCEEEEPT……………..nowhere to mount a top box (or any luggage), so nowhere to stow a lock and chain, NOWHERE to stow your jacket and back protector when you get there and just to top it off NOWHERE to put your two shopping bags of Tescos shopping. Brilliant🙄
I feel sorry for the likes of Toad, Chad, Alex etc for having to review electric bikes. They have to be professional and constructive and fair knowing that the type of bike is not something they would ever buy for the exact same reasons motorcyclists like us wouldn't. It's a tough sell and let's not forget Arc Vector who went into liquidation the other month as their electric bikes never sold.
The RM1 sold pretty well. Enough to justify the RM1S. It doesn't sound like you're the target audience for this particular bike, but that's ok - horses for courses. Creators have to consider their wider audiences - Toad could likely pick up a fair few subs for this given it's the most comprehensive review of the bike I've seen so far - lots of people considering this will hit this video. Tough sell for a bike enthusiast, less so for someone looking at smaller electric cars or with a shorter commute. Clearly a market there based on prior model sales.
Maybe some of us want hassle free ownership and something even cheaper to run. Low insurance, no tax and basically no fuel cost - what isn’t to like? The here and now benefits are clear, if an 80 mile range isn’t enough maybe you should live closer to work
that 80 mile range is garbage and you know it. No one ever delivers their stated range. And this may shock you but...some people like to ride for fun and not just to waste $9k for a stupid overpriced commuter bike. This idiocy is why it's taking so damn long to get viable electric transportation! I'd gladly buy an electric car or bike if they weren't insanely overpriced and inconvenient. But here you are making excuses for the same stupid shit they've been pushing out for a decade. Horrible range, inconvenient charging and pricing that's beyond exorbitant...
Never thought I'd be happy to be in my twighlight years, when I watch and listen the presentation of this ugly pig of a motorcycle which is supposed to be the future. Costs almost twice the price of my 15hp 125 abs scooter that does more miles on one gallon of fuel, than the range of this has plenty of storage and weather protection. I dont need to use 6hours worth of expensive electricity to charge it. So if its is selling well as suggested, who is actually buing it
What an utter pile of shite for that money you can bulid you own that will a hundred plus an hour and a range of 100 miles minimum for god sake this is why the electric bike industry is not taking off
@@knoxieman well second hand Honda fireblade will cost you 800 quid as a none runner qs motors do a 8kw hub motor package that fits the rear wheel of the fireblade for 1100 with motor controller throttle and wiring harness you can get for another 200 battery you can make for another 1500 just need a weilder after than and 8 months of time to build that is more the main problem I did forget the 3 gauge cable but due to the fact you only at most 10 meters it's notmme worth adding the cost
This is the problem though, we have people like you making ridiculously bold claims with no evidence to back any of it up. You throw out napkin maths level ‘calculations’ and claim as if buying everything second-hand with no warranty is comparable purchase to buying a built bike by a company that’s put the work in. Most people won’t have the level of expertise to build a bike like that or want a taped together bike like that either. You’ve then thrown the argument away saying it’s ’not worth the time’ because you don’t actually have a valid argument. If you don’t like it move on, this is just aimed at petrol head motorbike lovers.
@@Spazza42 tell that to the entire industry I can make my own lithium battery packs and I'm a pretty good mechanic if you dont some ones capability dont respond
Why doesn't the thing have ABS? Would the makers be saving a few quid by compromising rider safety, by any chance? I wouldn't touch the overpriced nonsense with an electric cattle prod.
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There are so many haters of electric bikes in the comments. No one is forcing you to buy.
Personally, I think these make way more sense than the 20 -30K electric motorcycles. These are meant for the city. They look smart and are easy to charge.
They are also British.
Why bother with electric bikes at all? Because our government signed us up to net zero by 2050. Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame the politicians if you don't like it.
I love electric bikes, but this just ain't it
A definite improvement on the Mk1. It's a pity in runs on tubed tyres. Please, cut the background music out.
Tha CAKE bikes haven’t gone bankrupt. It was close but they’re back 🤙🏾
Expensive considering it only has a hub motor and not a mid-drive.🤨
It is expensive to buy, but cheap to run, so that may balance out costs somewhat over a long period. Hub motor means no chain or belt drive to maintain.
Great review - thanks. Could you get a full face helmet into that 'tank' space, do you think? Ta.
No chance
I'll be first in line the second they become available near me (Virginia).
Looks like perfect city commuter 😊
That's what it's aimed at. It gets a lot of attention too, much more than most electric bikes
Kinda cool but just not for me even as a city commuter I'd opt for a Honda Mini-moto (modifed for more power) or a scooter. Or realistically just a CB300 at half the cost or there about. My modified Honda monkey will do 60-65mph and gets 120mpg. 60 mile round trip to work frequently on it.
Options is the point. I'd love this as a second bike. Practically zero maintenance, and practically no degradation if it sits for a while (whereas the fuel in a petrol bike will separate if it sits too long).
One of the best bikes for the city, no doubt.
Decent review but I'd like to see a speed & acceleration test. Also maybe do the talkover in a brighter room, it's hard to see the bike in the dark!
Loved the Goldseal reference!😅
I was hoping to see you remove and replace the batteries. How easy is it to do? How heavy is each battery?
Nicely done Toad!
Thank you! Cheers!
Maeving RM1S website shows the range as "up to 80 miles." So it's like a 200cc bike with a 1 gallon fuel tank that cost $8,995 in the USA.
Ideal for short distance commuting and running to the shops on, EXCEEEEPT……………..nowhere to mount a top box (or any luggage), so nowhere to stow a lock and chain, NOWHERE to stow your jacket and back protector when you get there and just to top it off NOWHERE to put your two shopping bags of Tescos shopping. Brilliant🙄
It does have storage in the tank, since both batteries are now stored together in the 'engine'. 4:26 in the video
Maeving offer a pannier.
I feel sorry for the likes of Toad, Chad, Alex etc for having to review electric bikes. They have to be professional and constructive and fair knowing that the type of bike is not something they would ever buy for the exact same reasons motorcyclists like us wouldn't. It's a tough sell and let's not forget Arc Vector who went into liquidation the other month as their electric bikes never sold.
The RM1 sold pretty well. Enough to justify the RM1S. It doesn't sound like you're the target audience for this particular bike, but that's ok - horses for courses. Creators have to consider their wider audiences - Toad could likely pick up a fair few subs for this given it's the most comprehensive review of the bike I've seen so far - lots of people considering this will hit this video. Tough sell for a bike enthusiast, less so for someone looking at smaller electric cars or with a shorter commute. Clearly a market there based on prior model sales.
Great review, nice alternative to an electric bike 👍
It's certainly eye-catching
Better than Landmoto?
£500 for a pair of shocks? What are they made of- titanium?
They are K-Tech shocks, so full machined CNC aluminium with adjustability.
Does anyone have real world use of the K-Tech versus the standard rear shocks?
How do the front shocks fare?
TIA
Damn I miss Cake 😞
Too Expensive compared to Tork kratos R & Ultraviolette F77 considering price
Perfect mode of transport if everything is within 15 mins of your designated abode.
Gold seal for the win🤣
I did wonder if that would get noticed!
@@visordown We must be of a similar vintage.
Nice bike but electric 😢
Scooter performance with motorcycle style and price. This wouldn't sell in the USA other than to people with money to waste.
(looks at $50,000 custom trike and matching trailer that are ridden 3 times a year for a total of 150 miles)
ok
Got one on deposit; can’t wait to see it in person.
Slow, expensive, low range, long charging time. DOA.
Yeah, my biggest gripe is the range, and that's with dual batteries. All that just for 80 miles of range is lackluster. Overall, I do like the bike.
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But why? We have 125cc bikes
I guess, as the presenter stated, you'll have to test one to find out.
No noise, exhaust, shifting gears. Just smooth, quiet, easy without needing to visit petrol station.
I'd prefer this to commute to work.
Charge it at home and work and never need maintenance
Maybe some of us want hassle free ownership and something even cheaper to run. Low insurance, no tax and basically no fuel cost - what isn’t to like? The here and now benefits are clear, if an 80 mile range isn’t enough maybe you should live closer to work
that 80 mile range is garbage and you know it. No one ever delivers their stated range. And this may shock you but...some people like to ride for fun and not just to waste $9k for a stupid overpriced commuter bike. This idiocy is why it's taking so damn long to get viable electric transportation! I'd gladly buy an electric car or bike if they weren't insanely overpriced and inconvenient. But here you are making excuses for the same stupid shit they've been pushing out for a decade. Horrible range, inconvenient charging and pricing that's beyond exorbitant...
Never thought I'd be happy to be in my twighlight years, when I watch and listen the presentation of this ugly pig of a motorcycle which is supposed to be the future. Costs almost twice the price of my 15hp 125 abs scooter that does more miles on one gallon of fuel, than the range of this has plenty of storage and weather protection. I dont need to use 6hours worth of expensive electricity to charge it.
So if its is selling well as suggested, who is actually buing it
Gas is more expensive than electricity.
Horses for courses.
Removing the battery to charge? Nah. No passenger seating or pegs. Nah. Rather have the Livewire 1
It's mentioned in the video that you can charge whilst they're plugged in....
livewire one, three times the price
What an utter pile of shite for that money you can bulid you own that will a hundred plus an hour and a range of 100 miles minimum for god sake this is why the electric bike industry is not taking off
PLease let us know once you have 'built' this bike, we can test it head-to-head with the Maeving if you like! :-)
You build a bike like the one you just described for 7.5K and I'll buy it off you.
@@knoxieman well second hand Honda fireblade will cost you 800 quid as a none runner qs motors do a 8kw hub motor package that fits the rear wheel of the fireblade for 1100 with motor controller throttle and wiring harness you can get for another 200 battery you can make for another 1500 just need a weilder after than and 8 months of time to build that is more the main problem I did forget the 3 gauge cable but due to the fact you only at most 10 meters it's notmme worth adding the cost
This is the problem though, we have people like you making ridiculously bold claims with no evidence to back any of it up. You throw out napkin maths level ‘calculations’ and claim as if buying everything second-hand with no warranty is comparable purchase to buying a built bike by a company that’s put the work in. Most people won’t have the level of expertise to build a bike like that or want a taped together bike like that either. You’ve then thrown the argument away saying it’s ’not worth the time’ because you don’t actually have a valid argument. If you don’t like it move on, this is just aimed at petrol head motorbike lovers.
@@Spazza42 tell that to the entire industry I can make my own lithium battery packs and I'm a pretty good mechanic if you dont some ones capability dont respond
Why doesn't the thing have ABS? Would the makers be saving a few quid by compromising rider safety, by any chance? I wouldn't touch the overpriced nonsense with an electric cattle prod.
Best electric bike? Who cares?
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I. I care. Not the best ebike but electric is where it's going. Get with the times.
Me 👋
Me too @@WoTThatManAgain
@@TheCdubbleyoome (:
No ULEZ with this bike. That alone will highly compensate the price difference