Chernobyl 1x2 "Please Remain Calm" REACTION!!
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The general who took the reading was Shagga, Son of Dolf!
IRL that general was a highly decorated veteran of WWII and incredibly died at age 78 of natural causes in 2003. His massive balls must have deflected the 15,000 roentgen.
A T What a hero he was. When they said the protection wasn't going to be enough, and he said "then I will do it myself", that's the kind of General I could follow. The kind of man you would be proud to fight along side.
His balls absorbed 15,000 Roentgen and make a love with woman then later Captain Atom is born.
No 💩 ??? Ha!
Yeah there's loads more GOT actors in the series Jamie Lannisters cousin was in the previous episode and there's more to come no spoilers
His name was Vladimir Pikalov.
My wife is East German and was 7 when this happened. After she watched this show she talked to her Mom about it who said they weren’t told anything about it. No one warned them while the West Germans were keeping their kids inside. The Soviets admitted very little until it was all exposed.
That is true, moreover there was a cycling championship held in Ukraine on 6th May 1986, just few days after the explosion. East block contestants were forced to go there, and they were told nothing...
Well, we had been able to receive "western television" in our part of east germany. While our own government might have been obliovious, the western media and government was alerted by reports of the swedish power plants and started measurements and warned everyone.
My mother for example sweitched from fresh milk and fresh products to canned products, and we hadn't been outside most of the time
@@riebenzahl-524 We lived in the valley of unknown, where we couldn't get western radio or television. It just happened 2 days after my first birthday... I could've been some of these babies.
Honestly, this isn’t unique to the Soviets. This is the behavior of governments and politicians around the world. Deny deny deny, then when caught shift blame to everyone else. 🤷♀️
Chernobyl got 19 emmy nominations, with jared harris, stellan skarsgård and emily watson included
If this series doesn’t sweep at the Emmy’s that would be.... madness
@@mattdavid716 - ...... I see what you did there :p
hands down one of the best shows I've ever seen.
time for Oscars now
@@thetargaryenbride Did they win any?
The helicopter crashed because it went through the smoke and hit the crane on the other side. When you watch it you can see the hook block of the crane drop once the blade severs the cable.
The helicopter crash happened months after the accident
yeah every damn reactor seems to miss it.. they all think it crashed because of the radiation...
Puppetkon46 it crashed because the radiation was so intense it flash-ionized the steel the helicopter was made of - instantly turning it as brittle as porcelain. The helicopter blades then shattered due to the force of their own movement. In real life this crash happened months later.
@The Dragon Demands Nope....it really did hit the crane cable, just watch the scene again both in the show and in real life. But you are correct it happened months later, in October 1986
@@Balnazzardi Yes, it is truth that it was the hitting the crane that crash helicopter but one can't discard the effects of radiation on the judgements and coordination of the pilots.
Boris has the GOAT character development. He went from:
"I'm told it's the equivalent of a chest x-ray"
to
"I'm told we'll need.... all of the liquid nitrogen in the Soviet Union."
Such a great character.
"By God Boris, you were the one who mattered most"
He went from "You are there to give testimony on the operation of RBMK reactors, nothing more." to "I DON'T GIVE A F**K!"
I was so hoping that when he said the line "Please may I express my concern as calmly and respectfully as I...," that he would pause for a brief second and then followed up by screaming "WE ARE F***ED! WE ARE ALL F***ED! That's as calmly as I can put it."
I nearly pissed my pants... I would love to see that as an outtake xD
There's multiple moments almost exactly like that in _Don't Look Up._ (Dark comedy movie on Netflix, subtweeting our reaction to covid -- it's hilarious.)
I live in Belarus and there’s still some radiation. My aunt told me about this, sadly she passed away because of cancer. It’s horrifying because it’s actually happened. Thank u for reacting to this series, hello from Belarus ❤️
An aspect of this stuff that people seem to have a hard time reconciling is that this was also an era where there was quite a bit more ignorance in regards to how dangerous radiation is, obviously there were educated people who knew pretty well how horrifying the effects could be. But it's all too easy to look back on this long *after* Chernobyl has happened and be like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING". Hindsight and all that.
I live in Italy and we all know about Chernobyl, but I was surprised how few things I actually was aware of. Most of the women of Northern Italy developed thyroid problem, my mom one of them, around 1990.
I highly recommend the HBO podcast Chernobyl, with the creator Craig Mason, and the book he references often.
Can't wait for the next reactions, girls, you're very authentic and respectful
The movie you're thinking about is Once upon a Forest.
Yes
I don't remember seeing this movie, but looking at the characters now, I have vague recollection of them.
@@ImonSnow Same. The part with the humans in gas masks scared the crap out of me as a kid. Lol.
I can’t believe it. I was so happy then it turns out that this was not the cartoon about a mole and a destroyed forrest I was looking for. How is that even possible?! I could cry.
The search continues
Thanks bro I couldn't remember the name XD
True fact, the flashlights really went out. That happened in real life.
They never used flashlights. They did it in the dark by feeling the pipes.
Luis Richard I thought on the podcast they said they did. I knew they had to feel in the dark, but maybe they said they said they used flashlights to dramatize it for TV. Either way, scary as fuck.
@@cindycrewsbeach72 With the geiger counter blaring like that too, I'd be panicking and scared shitless...
@ToldYouSo I always wanted to know if they made it. The first thing I'd have done is throw that fucking geiger counter..
@@luisrichard8312 Falsehood. Confined both by the eyewitness accounts and by the accompanying podcast that they were provided with lights.
The lights did go out: the only diversion from reality was in fact that they had dynamo torches. When the lights went out, that's when they had to use the pipesm
Well it is basically how we treat our own earth. This is fine, nothing is on fire.
Obviously, this was a huge thing in Europe. I was 26 when it happened, and lived (and still live) in the area that was hit by the fallout in Sweden. The nuclear power plant that first detected it is 1.5 hour from where I live. They obviously have lots of radiation alarms that went off. First they thought they had a leak, until they realized that the work crew brought it in from the outside. Analysis quickly showed that it couldn't even be from that plant (different type, much safer btw), but was typical for the type used in the USSR. We still can't eat some things growing in this area (mushrooms for instance), and wild game has to be tested to make sure it's safe to eat. The Sami's reindeer herds up north were heavily impacted as well.
Demopem - thank you so much for sharing. I remember it happening and that it was "really bad". But I was far too young to really understand. It's hard for us in the US to fully grasp the impact sometimes when we dont feel it in our day to day lives.
With wild animals and plants being so negatively impacted even to this day. Do you remember if farm animals or crops were effected? We're there food shortages or increases in food prices as a result of the effects of the radiation making some food products unusable?
@@martinsharrett1872 No, nothing that severe as far as I can recall. We're talking about very low doses, so the question is how much you consume over a long period of time. The short-lived isotopes have decayed a long time ago, now it's mainly caesium-137. Some things tend to concentrate it, mushrooms and lichen for instance, This in turn affects some animals more than others depending on their diet. Reindeer (who eat a lot of lichen) can still have levels too high, and among the wild life it's mostly the boars that are a problem. You can read more about how it was discovered, and about the aftermath, in Sweden, here: sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=4468603 (in English)
@@demopem - yeah, I knew about the mushrooms and wild pigs but not the reindeer. Though that does make sense considering their primary diet. I grew up on a beef farm and when you mentioned the reindeer thats where my mind went and then I started thinking about food crops. I'm really sorry you have had to live with the reprocussions from this but am very thankful for you being willing to share your experiences and knowledge :). I'm guessing based on your distance there are no direct expected health impacts?
@@martinsharrett1872 The expected health impacts is a murky subject. The estimates from authorities and experts have varied from none, to tenths, to a few hundred deaths and/or cases of cancer, but it's very hard to know for sure. Cancer happens anyway, and these numbers are close to the "noise level", and how do you know if a specific case was caused by the fallout anyway?
i was in the US and was definitely NOT too young to understand. It was a HUGE story at the time. We didn't know the extent of it but it was a big story and it was on tv. But we didn't have 24/7 news in the same way. I was 14 and it was a big big story. Younger people may not understand that the US had three mile island which wasn't nearly to the level of Chernobyl but here was still a huge story and three mile island was in 1979. Before Chernobyl so when Chernobyl happened it happened to people already on edge about the idea of a nuclear accident.We just obviously didn't know details, nuance, facts about radiation, or the extent of events in Russia.
When I saw your reaction to that doggo running after the bus I thought, "Oh, you're just gonna LOVE the 4th episode..."
"Is it this hard to care? Doesn't seem so difficult to care."
Two words: Puerto Rico.
I don't give a flying fuck about Puerto Rico...not until they officially join the American Union.
Until then, piss off...they're sucking our resources.
sydIRISH they’re not allowed to join, but they’re still taxed without representation
@@sydIRISH Congress has repeatedly refused to give them citizenship or independence while taxing them. Fuck off and read a book you ignorant hillbilly.
@@sydIRISH Are they part of the US Army? If they can die for you shut up!
I am surprised how ppl say "how come we didn't know about this" I was around 8 and I remember Ted Koppel reporting on it, they even did a ten yrs later report. And you got to remember this was Russia in the 80's, most Americans did not care about what was going on in Russia or the people back then. TBH, we almost like that again now.
I've got to say It seems most Americans' don't bother to know about anything beyond their own borders sadly. When It comes to events in Europe they seem utterly clueless.
@@silverspike1 America's borders are larger than all of Europe. It's a lot to cover on it's own. But i will say that's not everybody and i have heard many a European that knows nothing about the world they didn't get from a tv sitcom or drama which to knowledgable people is clearly not fact. They often don't know geography and say things like Mexico is in south America or Central America. Because their world understanding is that white people are in north america so Mexico can't be. But I've heard many an ignorant European too.
I absolutely LOOOOOOVE your reactions. And glad you use headphones, as the sounds/music/dosimeters are being used so brilliantly throughout.
Glad you grasp the facts, and get the full punch of it.
Thank you.
And love how the three volunteers came forward... precisely as 'Fukushima 50', that volunteered to go the furthest into the plant.
Great people.
oh bless your heart, darlings 😂 you must not know about Soviet Russia in the 80's.....the State wants you to know only what the State wants you to know.
Key patriotism difference, too.
An American would jump on a grenade because he *decides* to shave his buddies.
A Soviet would jump on a grenade because he decides to *save his buddies.*
Sadly that's about any state
Kind of like our current media....
The left LOVES communism, because it's all about control. FUCK THE LEFT!!!!!!
sydIRISH Lmao dumbass doesn’t know what communism means
Yup and it was never just about you... It's not like you could just defy the state, you had family to think about and not even the closest, even farther down the line could feel some repercussions if you were deemed a traitor.
general's name is colonel-general Viktor K. Pikalov , commander of Chemical troops of USSR (three star general , like Patton)
it’s very interesting because most european react channels i’ve seen, for the most part, know about chernobyl and the general facts of what happened. it’s something i’ve always heard about, everyone i know knows about it, it’s been mentioned throughout school etc. and then pretty much all american react channels i’ve seen have little to no knowledge on it or that it was even a thing. that’s not me dragging anyone, i just genuinely find it interesting because it shows how history and events spread y’know
anyway i totally agree, it’s an incredibly tough watch but it’s necessary. people need to know this was a situation as serious as it is depicted (some elements were even toned down for tv). loving your reactions! you two are very respectful and compassionate which is nice to see
yeah, if u see the real pictures of the people who died from radiation sickness its WAAAAAAY WORSE then the show depicts, and the show depicts some nasty shit with even the lips turning black on the one guy but its nowhere near as bad as in real life...
btw im from belgium and for us its common knowledge. we learn the history of everything here in basic/high school. even the american history and revolution. all the classical stiff like egypt/rome/greece. littelrally everything and history was always my favorite subject :)
Europe was effected... U.s.a really wasn't. Plus the proximity
That's probably the difference.
that's cause all the americans reacting to it are largely young millenials born after that were not educated. If you were an American over the age of like 9 or 10 in 1986 you'd know about it. Maybe not all the specifics but you'd remember the nuclear accident happening cause it was on the news.
Piece of the poem that is read on radio in the beginning:
You know, I believe that the Russia we fight for
Is not the dull town where I lived at a loss
But those country tracks that our ancestors followed,
The graves where they lie, with the old Russian cross.
By old Russian practice, mere fire and destruction
Are all we abandon behind us in war.
We see alongside us the deaths of our comrades,
By old Russian practice, the breast to the fore.
Alyosha, till now we've been spared by the bullets.
But when (for the third time) my life seemed to end,
I yet still felt proud of the dearest of countries,
The great bitter land I was born to defend.
(Konstantin Simonov)
I was just so surprised with US producers getting into russian culture that deep, it's amazing
Wow, I see that people like this
www.simonov.co.uk/smolenshchina.htm
Check out full poem, he wrote it being a war correspondent at WW2
Lots of genuine archive footage have been used for that show.
Though there are a few inaccuracies, the work put behind that show is really amazing.
OK now rewrite it because its ukraine
i was too it makes me happy that they did.
I was 16 when it happened. Even though I live in Ireland we were issued iodine tablets (never needed them thankfully). Every summer to this day a charity called Children Of Chernobyl brings children from the area to my town for a few weeks of fresh air & good food. It really helps them. You might want to check the news. Something else has happened in Russia & it's unfolding in an eerily similar way.
I remember vividly when this happened. The newspaper headline said a radiation cloud was coming and everyone in Europe was gonna be poisoned, it was terrifying. We weren’t allowed to set foot outside in the rain, I had a phobia about rain for years
Thank you so much for continuing this! Watching the empathy in your faces is refreshing.
Little Boy (the bomb dropped on Hiroshima) was a 15 Kiloton Bomb, so twice that is 30 Kilotons(9 Kilotons higher than Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki). So the amount of radiation is forty 30 KT bombs.
For us in Germany, it was very real. I remember being a child and not being allowed to play outside anymore. Germany was still devided in East and West. The cold war was not over. But they could not hide it because it spread to far away regional. Nowadays, mushrooms and some wild animals are still contaminated in the South of Bavaria.
You two are obviously too young to know what the Soviet Union was like during this time. They were image obsessed and extremely authoritarian. You couldn't walk away from Chernobyl. When they told you to do something you didn't refuse. Refusal meant time in a gulag at the minimum. The Soviet eyes and ears of the KGB were everywhere and you couldn't trust your neighbors to keep your confidence. I was a teenager at the time and it was bizarre to see news reports with near panicked scientists talking about it and yet the Soviet Union just kept denying anything was wrong. When they finally admitted to an accident, they then kept downplaying its seriousness.
The younger generations simply don't know. It's a bit heartbreaking actually. The Soviets were the ENEMY for almost 50 years.
To be fair, current Russia is not that much different in regards to their image obsession or authoritarianism. They may have opened a lot comercially since the fall of the USSR, but their main focus remains covering their own asses first, the population be damned.
@@braxat52 Well you can't expect sudden changes after year and years of totalitarian order. It's just easier for government to keep up something similar. Not that I support it - I do live in Russia. Recent story - the forests in Siberia are burning to the ground, and the government prefers to cover the news to "avoid panic" rather than do something about it. Jokes on them, this policy doesn't work as well now that we have social media
Dr.feelalright well said
"[...] panicked scientists talking about it and yet the Soviet Union just kept denying anything was wrong". It's really interesting how the US is exactly like that on some issues now
11:43 Once Upon a Forest. I watched that as a kid too
Austin Arminio YES!! Man, it's still chilling to watch that scene even now but it was an absolute favorite of mine when I was little!
Imon see's a dog running after it's owner and says "OMG that's so sad"..... She doesn't know what's waiting for her in a few episode's :(
16:45 "What if they turned into superhero-dogs and stopped this?"
Oh wait until episode 4 and see what really happened to those dogs.
The control room workers that went down to turn those wheels on the night of the explosion are sick & dying in the hospital as of this episode.
"Who are you? What's your name? How can I buy you wine?"
A year later and that is still funny as hell.
This show is very powerful.
"I'm scared, I'm so scared." - Yeah, that's about the emotion we had as kids back in the 80s, when our parents told us, we couldn't play outside for a while. And why.
The three workers who went into the water-filled basement are heroes to everyone in the world. We ought to be teaching about these men in our schools.
You guys should watch the after credits historical information. To get more info on the scenes dramatized for the show.
does every episode have these? my cable provider here just shows the epiodes en the credits and thats it....
might be time to pirate them then or watch em on youtube
@@japman17 No, just at the end of the last episode.
The first time I watched this show I was glued to the screen. It is hands down the most intense show I have ever seen. I have never felt such unbridled rage and deep sadness at the same time.
I was stationed in Germany in 1985 through 1988 on the Border At the town of Bad Hersfeld, the U.S. Government would not evac our dependents when we knew that the fallout was coming because it was not economical. Today the U.S. does not recognize that the exposure ever happened.
I live in a town north of Stockholm called Gävle, the radiation hit our area and still today people does not pick mushrooms and berries from certain parts.
Many folks (including the 2 of you here unfortunately) missed the significance of a 3 megaton explosion that would "eject" the 3 remaining nuclear reactors exposing not 1, but FOUR cores. The result: Instead of 1 relatively covered/controllable nuclear core, you would have 4 totally uncovered cores.
The implications are unthinkable.
Potential extinction level event
Fortunately this event actually I would have never happened. Yes they would have been a thermal explosion, that would have caused further damage to the reactor, but that is all. Equivalent of a few tons of TNT, not kilotons, and certainly not megatons. The whole megaton thermal explosion thing, was actually completely fabricated by the Soviet government, to further push the narrative that the soviets saved Europe with their heroic sacrifice.
Flash-superheating the water inside Chernobyl's underground was unlikely but not impossible. Steam pressure is how a reactor works, after all. Blowing apart the whole complex would indeed obliterate Europe with highly radioactive dust from the Pyrinees to the Volga.
I remember in the UK of talk about whether children should be let outside at the time too. The news had updates on where the cloud had gotten to. I still remember the fear, and also the footage of the livestock all over Europe that was slaughtered due to contamination.
I love that ending. It was like something straight out of a horror movie. And it really set the tone for what the series as a whole is like.
Man I really feel like you two are going to have a hard time with some of the upcoming episodes.
"how we did not know about this? Noone every told us that? " Well said. Nobody told you about Fukushima either, so wait 50 years for another HBO show.
Most people don't know about 90% of the GREAT things Donald Trump does....you know why?
SELECTIVE INFORMATION, INDOCTRINATION....SETTING THE NARRATIVE. The media tells you what they want you to know. The truth matters not. It's why I haven't watch any MSM outlet in years. Trump is awesome by the way. Perfect? No...but who is?
It's more a '' US educational system '' kinda thing , they never know anything that happend before if it's not in the US.
Better Fire similar thing happens in British school.
British students they will learn about a topic but there may be an experience or a point of view that may be left out or they are unaware of
American student still in school or just before college no almost nothing outside of what happens in the us. Extremely insular
When the three men volunteer to go in the water, it gets me, every time. Incredible courage.
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"Y'all in trouble" XD That... was kind of a culture shock. :D
I like your avatar
Probably hard to believe this, but I'm betting you'll end up loving Stellan Skarsgård's character Boris Scherbina by the end of this show.
Speaking of Stellan Skarsgård,: In an interview promoting this show he said he remembered back in April of 1986, when he was living in Sweden with his wife and his children up to that point (sons Alexander [Eric from "True Blood"], Gustaf [Floki from "Vikings"], and Sam), seeing news reports on how the government had detected the radiation that came over and effectively banned any of its people from entering the upper third of the country due to it falling there.
The old man is Donald Sumpter who was Maester Lewin from game of thrones.
It’s significant that there is patriotic poetry on the radio...you always knew something bad was happening when they stopped the programming and started playing that
The character Ulana Khomyuk (the female nuclear physicist who wiped the window at the beginning) is not actually a real person unlike most of the characters in the show. But a representation of all the scientists that wanted to expose the truth and go against the Soviets secrecy and pride at the time.
An entire tragedy and its heroes can never be truly summarized in ~5 hours on a TV show. So Ulana was created as an amalgamation for all the heroic scientists that helped solve and tell the truth of Chernobyl. Since women were not in any kind of political power or high status, and all the people in the history of Chernobyl as well as the show is all guys, the creator wanted to "represent [the] many women in STEM who had to break through gender-biased barriers in the pursuit of knowledge and truth."
There is a podcast for every episode of the show with the creator and and I HIGHLY recommend that people listen to it. He talks about the fact and fiction of the show, things that didnt make it, behind the scenes, why certain decisions were made, etc.
What gender based barriers were there to speak of in the Soviet Union? I mean, besides biology because it's dumb to complain about biological differences. On a societal level, there wasn't much difference AT ALL because that would go against marxist principles.
Needed strong female to appease the SJWs...but I'm fine with it.
I love Emily Watson, she's a terrific actress. The younger generation needs to get out of the "communism is cool" mentality.
@@sydIRISH And what kind of mentality should accept- mindlessly consume, eat drugs and “love” friends in the ass - the only way for humanity ?! Thank you, this has already happened to one degree or another around the world! at least leave a thoughtless dream ...
I'm from north-eastern Poland and I can confirm that this event was a very big deal here. Pretty much everyone knows about this and some people have personal stories. Our region was hit by radioactive cloud in the first day after the explosion. My mom was pregnant at the time with my sister and she was born with thyroid problems due to exposure to what my mom describes "dirty rain" she found herself in. Later the authorities distributed iodine to almost every citizen.
The helicopter did not dissolve, the pilot could not see through the smoke and fly the heli into a crane. The heli blades collided with the thick steel cables on the crane which destroys the blades, if you look carefully in the show you will notice it.
19:47 so true! It is an hour long of 👊🦵👊
I could not binge watch this series. I watched it over 5 days
So true. I didn't feel well after any of the episodes.
Indeed, this series is the definition of dread
Fallout from this accident even reached the east coast of the United States. It was in limited amounts, but it was detectable.
The radiation they are detecting are from small pieces of the reactor's fission products being carried by the wind and deposited on the surface. They cannot directly detect radiation from the reactor in Chernobyl, because the radiation from the remaining(still burning) core is being attenuated(absorbed) by the building around it, the earth, and water molecules in the air. Every meter away from a radioactive point source the exposure to it goes down geometrically( if a 1 Curie source was present at one meter it would expose a human being to 1 REM, this is a constant used in the Nuclear industry. so at 2 meters the measure is .5 Rem, at 3 meters .25 Rem and so on reaching background radiation somewhere between 100 and 200 meters(estimate). as you find out in this episode, they discover the source is actually 15,000 curies(likely more because they could not get to 1 m from the core). Based on a reading of 15,000 Roentgen at 1 Km from the reactor(if the reactor was on a flat open surface with no objects in the way)a person would receive 0.00003 REM. The Reactor at Chernobyl is surrounded on four sides by steel reinforced concret which is fortunate, because concrete and steel(and water for the matter) can attenuate radiation, reducing the activity to 1/10th through 24 inches of Concrete or 4 inches of steel(since this is a building where only i beams and rebar go into its construction, this rule doesn't apply as much per steel, but does apply for the Concrete walls). The real hazard are the fragments being scattered through the smoke from the fire, which is turning the area around the reactor into a massive plane source.
The Russian government is hamstrung by their secretive protocols, none of their politicians have any serious hard science grounding.
The scene where they predict a 2 megaton blast is not based on scientific fact or evidence, its actually a propaganda lie the Russians told to turn the accident into a triumph, in reality all that would have happened would have been few hours of a steam geysers erupting through weak points in an already damaged building, Reactors 3, 2, and 1 were never in any danger of being damaged in that case. It is physically impossible for a U 235 Reactor to result in an atomic explosion, for that to happen the volume of present Uranium has to be force into a space far smaller than its density would normally allow, to do that, Nuclear weapon use high power explosived to propell halves of a Uranium(or Plutonium) core at each other at a measurable percentage of the speed of light, crushing the Uranium into a Critical mass density. The Reactor being on fire is actually doing the oposite, and melting the Uranium simply dilutes the Uranium back into its native state of UrO2(Uranium Oxide, or Urananite, which is harmless)
"Quentin Tarantino should make a movie about the radioactive super-hero dogs saving Chernobyl" - you had my attention, now you have my curiosity.
“I had a lot of anger” me: and you will be even angrier during this episode!
I honestly just wanted to punch people for the first 3 episodes (mostly the first two) and then I was depressed during the last two. Literally. What an amazing series.
I'm Swedish and no one really told me about chernobyl from what I remember. I had to ask my mom as a kid cause I saw it referenced a lot in games and movies.
Then she told me how everyone was very paranoid and not allowed to eat anything growing outside for quite a while.
I've heard to this day they still find wild animals (boars or moose) with radiation in them up north.
10:12. “Whats your name?” -General Vladimir Pikalov
“Who are you?” -WWII veteran, served in the battles of Moscow and Stalingrad, and the siege of Berlin among others. A military engineer-chemist and head of the Chemical Troops of the USSR Ministry of Defense.
“How can I buy you wine?” -you cannot, because this tough sonnuvabitch raised an eyebrow at the Grim Reaper, who immediately and politely moved his death date to 2003 at age 78.
With the evacuees, they weren’t quarantined. My parents lived in Kiev at the time and had just been granted access to a new apartment in a new building, which was then populated mostly by the people of Pripyat. They sent my brother away for about six months, made him go to a different daycare half an hour away when he got back, and they would have produce shipped in from family in Russia for the next three years before they left. It was an absolutely insane time, and the only reason my parents knew to do any of that was because a family member working in the government warned them. The public was not told about any of the dangers, even long after it happened.
The helicopter crash did actually happen, but it happened months later and it wasn't caused by radiation. The tail of the helicopter clipped a wire from a crane and caused the crash. I didn't notice it the first time I saw the episode, but it is the crane that causes the accident here too. Not the radiation.
The "I'll do it myself guy is Colonel-General Vladimir Karpovich Pikalov, Commander of Chemical Troops and veteran of Stalingrad, Kursk, and Berlin. He actually made the personal reconnaissance of the reactor complex as shown and was awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union.
The Blue Flower cartoon is probably Redwall: Salamandastron. The mice need the flower to cure Dryditch fever.
Big thanks for reaction, very tough watch but high level program. Gives light to those russian peoples who gave what they could to work the problem.
13:40 Fun fact: it went across the whole of Europe within a couple of days, here in the UK some farm fields were only recently allowed to graze livestock on them again because of Chernobyl. Furthermore radioactive particles from Chernobyl circled the whole planet. Every one of us has a piece of chernobyl inside us.
Dude I love Once Upon a Forest - the movie you're describing at 11:30
It's hard to see, but the helicopter did not dissolve after flying over the reactor. If you look closely, the pilots likely died or got sick, and the propellers got wrapped up in a crane or something.
Be patient with Scherbina. He is one of the best characters. He starts out as a bad guy and shifts as he figures things out.
More fun science discussion for anyone interested! Thanks for the video :)
4:06 There are different types of radiation, some more damaging than others and some more penetrating than others. The window keeps the actual radioactive material in the air out a bit though, enough to prevent the detectors picking it up beforehand.
14:16 If they are contaminated then yes they can spread it a little bit. But the main issue is the biggest source which is the reactor itself. It doesn't spread like a disease though because it doesn't reproduce in any way. Whatever radioactive material they leave behind is good. They can change, wash and it'll all help remove some contamination. It is most important to remove these people from the area to reduce the intensity of exposure and reduce the amount of further contamination. Quarantine is a good idea to contain the contaminated material, but once the people are as cleaned as possible they need to be taken out. It's not like a disease where it'll eventually blow over (apt at the moment!) because radioactive material takes hundreds to thousands of years to stop emitting radiation. It's a curved line - there is a lot of radiation for a "short" amount of time, like 100 years, during which most of the radioactive material would have decayed. Then there is a low level of radiation for a long time after, like 50,000 years while the remaining radioactive material decays.
16:42 Radiation can damage DNA, which leads to mutation. The chances of this not being a damaging change to the DNA is very low. If you're very lucky it won't have a significant effect; if you're unlucky it'll likely cause cancer and other damage. Obviously "mutants" like the X-Men is pure fantasy!
19:22 I believe the radiation is messing up the batteries but I'm not actually certain (correct me if I'm wrong). The breathing apparatus is likely fine as it in't dependent on batteries or electricals.
25:00 I'm not actually sure what happened to the helicopter, but the radiation would definitely affect the people, a few minutes is all they could handle. To me it makes sense that the radiation messed with the electricals of the helicopter but I'm not sure why it looked like the rotor blades broke. "Dissolve" is a chemical term. The heli didn't literally dissolve but I get what you mean.
25:49 The radiation won't get stronger over time unless more radioactive material is released. Every hour it releases a fairly fixed amount of radiation to pretty much the same radius. The spreading is the radioactive material dispersed in the air travelling with the wind, continually emitting radiation wherever it goes.
The water that they're going into is bad because it is contaminated with radioactive material, but actually the water itself acts as a defence against radiation, absorbing some of it, so if they are submerged they get a bit more protection.
Thanks for reading, hope you found it interesting and maybe learnt something :)
Hey, look, someone who reads shit.
I can only help on one of the questions you weren't able to answer. The helicopter went down because one of its blades hit a part of a crane or some shit. There is a video of it online.
I'm not to positive how water and radiation work together. I've read conflicting accounts and I'm not a nuclear physicist to be able to know anything in depth. However, I know water is a universal solvent but I don't know if it can help reduce the life of irradiated materials either.
Kudos to you ladies for choosing this brilliantly crafted portrayal of the Chernobyl disaster to react to. A difficult "watch" to be sure. Your reactions are true and as you gather more insight as to what happened there, you will be shocked even more. We, in the West, have a hard time with the USSR response to this disaster. The US has an organization to over see our nuclear programs, the Atomic Energy Commission, which is staffed by scientists/politicians with proper background. The USSR had no such organization. The heroic acts of the lower level people cannot be overstated. Please keep watching....and we will surely enjoy watching you!...TC
Fantastic show and glad you're continuing, there's a Podcast available on HBO or RUclips by the creators that speak about the events in each episode that I highly recommend to watch afterwards if you have the time.
I love seeing your reactions to this series, it really is amazing since a lot of this is true and did happen. I was born only 6 months after this happened, thankfully no where near Russia or Europe, but it doesn't feel so long ago. I don't know how I found this channel or these reactions hut I'll be watching the rest of them too. I can't wait. ^_^
20:07 USA has come close to a nuclear accident multiple times. It's scary indeed. To read about how and when, read Command and Control by Eric Schlosser. He did research about the management of America's nuclear arsenal. There is also a PBS documentary based on the book.
That we know about...who knows how many times we've been brink of extinction and had no idea?
I love that you two use headphones.. sign of professionalism
You know that meme "It gets better"? This is the opposite. The theme of the first couple of episodes is "It gets worse".
Once Upon a Forest ?
My whole family was outside in the garden back then in southern Germany. All of us have Hashimoto, plus me and some of my sisters got additional serious diseases. Wish they had informed us a day earlier ...
You will find it difficult to watch all of this series, but after the finale you’ll be so grateful you’ve finished.
13:43 Germany isn't that far away.😄 As the crow flies, it is about 1150 km (≈715 miles) from the nuclear power plant in Chernobyl to Berlin. (goo.gl/maps/GfaBWdGZ4bv3xRYE7 ) That's about the distance from New York City to Chicago.
Once Upon A Forest (1993) is the animated film your looking for @11:33!
nuclear disasters have happened prior to Chernobyl, 2 in fact in the Soviet Union. Chernobyl was the one they couldn't hide from the world. The incident was a major factor in the Soviet collapse. In order to maintain their global image as a superpower, they needed to cover it up. However, if they did whatever they could to resolve the incident, they would have looked weak and incompetent as an adversary to the United States.
I can’t believe that people trying to save money nearly cost us the northern hemisphere of our planet
it is the same today: scientists and experts in their fields get ignored. in some areas that isnt too big a problem, in others outright fatal. but most importantly, your image is intact, the population is not concerned and you go BAU... that is the ignorance of many people of position in power, but also of the "mass" sometimes, so to speak. Until its too late and the "why hasn't someone told us" regrests come in. well, there were some, but you didnt listen.
The reason most people didn't hear about how bad it really was is because it was the Soviet Union, and it wasn't until relatively recently that some of the most alarming facts came out. Nuclear energy was considered a state secret, and so they revealed as little as possible about it.
Guys if you are going to do another show after Chernobyl I cannot recommend Amazon Prime's The Boys highly enough to do it justice. I think you two would love it.
You said react to The Boys & 1 hour later they drop a reaction to it, talk about timing 😂😂
MotorCityOctane no fucking way! I’m in tune with them for real, super fan shit LOL
The intetesting thing about this show is watching blind loyalty crumble
LMAO yep Imon's EXACTLY right, bahahahah - those episodes are like being thrown into a little room where somebody casually kicks your ass for an hour. By the end of every episode I was gutted.
Imon and Abi we don't have the best record in teaching history in the USA equal in equality across the country but other countries are similar.
European countries were taught about the incident IF their media was not controlled by the USSR at the time. Even 5+ years after the explosion there were people unaware of the magnitude and its consequences to their bodies.
But in general other continents also don't report about everything that happens in history. America is not alone at all.
If you didn't know, the guy who is playing Boris, also plays Eric Selvig in The Avengers films. I didn't even clock on until someone else mentioned it. He's a very good actor.
It should be noted that three mile island happened here in the US before Chernobyl. The US techs were able to avoid a meltdown. But the way information was released and what people were told to do was just as poorly handled. It was just handled poorly in different ways and for different reasons. Had three mile island gone full meltdown, the death toll would have been just as bad here :(. Absolutely NOT defending the soviet system in any way, it deserves no defense. Just noting that we had our chance and our final grade was every bit as bad. We were simply luckier/used better tech/better safety standards/training? All of those things? None of those things and something else entirely?
Yeah.... so... completely unrelated question. How are you stocked on tissues these days? No reason for the question.... just curious..?
21:00 This is one of my first memories in life, my mother crying watching the 6 o'clock news. And they were showing the liquidators on the roof. She was a nurse and knew exactly what was going on and that all the men were likely dead. Following that I remember all the milk being destroyed and for about a year mom only used powdered milk with everything, and for months she made me drink iodine drops in fake milk.
this is reality , this has happened and for their sake u should continue watching it , it's painful but it's the truth that they hided for years , the truth that the world should know about.
11:47 That movie is called Once Upon A Forest
i watched it a hundred times as a kid
NO SPOILERS Y'ALL!!! NO SPOILERS!!!
It's actually stupid that no one in this comment section and the watchers knows that it's actually in Ukraine
ONCE UPON A FOREST YESSSSS
Just found y'all's channel today. This series is fucking haunting, you'll love the other episodes. Especially interested to see your reaction to the explanation of what went wrong in the final episode. For now, have my subscription and enjoy the series. :)
If you guys watched closely, many of the people in that room was looking at the General Secretary because they really didnt know what to do. Every time he turns a page on the report document, they all do. This was to illustrate that many of these people got their job because of who they know and not what they know.
you'll be happy to know 2 of the 3 men in the basement are still alive the other one died 8 years after that
The animated movie your looking for is "Once upon a forest" it was my FAVORITE animated movie as a kid
those people in the bar. they were kgb. he knew that.