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The firefighter Ignatenko was scheduled to go on leave at 4am that day. He and his wife had plans to leave Pripyat for a vacation getaway. He missed out on survival by less than 3 hours.
Let's face it though - first responders tend to help out if there's a big emergency, even if their shift has ended. If he knew his comrades were going in, he'd most likely have gone to join them too.
Thought this might interest you. I too fell in love with their story but from The Final Warning movie in 1991. Unfortunately this movie series relied too heavily of the book Voices From Chernobyl and it is not a factually correct document and the writer took a few liberties. As for Lyudmilla, she did not cause her child to die due to sitting near her husband. I became obsessed with their love story when The Final Warning movie debuted about Chernobyl in the year 91 or 92. (It too is free for viewing here on RUclips. I contacted Dr. Gayle in 1999 and he informed me that she received her dose of radiation by sitting outside their flat on the balcony all night watching the men battle the fire. Their apartment block was adjacent to the firestation and faced the block 4 off Zavodska Street which is 2.15 miles from the block 4 explosion. Her staying on the balcony all night watching for the men to return eating cookies she was being directly exposed for hours. Then after walking to the hospital and back she walked closer to Yaniv Rail Station and even closer to block 4 at 1.6 miles away from the exploded reactor. Now mind you the red forest inundated with radiation was only 1.1 miles SE of her apartment block Yaniv Rail Station is kind of in the middle of where the smoke plume headed up the countryside. If you pull up Google Maps Terrain you can find Yaniv Rail Station and Zavodska Street just NE of the plant and Just South of Yupiter Building. She stayed there a few more hours before catching the train to Moscow. Upon arriving at Moscow she was reading "hot" with radioactive contamination on her skin, clothes hair... Even her money! They took all of her clothes and she was given a robe and some cheap garments. After being through a decontamination scrubdown they handed her back her contaminated money but everything else was sent to radiation contamination care. She did not obtain a radiation dose from sitting near Vasya. Sadly I think this poor woman to this day believes her actions possibly had something to do with the death of Natashenka but Dr. Gale assured me this is not true. In 2001 I interviewed Dr. Angelina Guskova the female head doctor in Moscow and she confirmed these findings. Lyudmilla was already contaminated before she ever arrived in Moscow. After her husband was decontaminated he was not dangerous to her. The plastic barriers were to keep healthy people with infectious germs on themselves away from the patients because ARS acute radiation sickness patients they were dealing with have had their immune systems destroyed by the radiation. Best Wishes, A Chernobyl nerd. Ref: 9 news AU Chernobyl HBO "Mr Gale said another storyline of the show, which was made by American network HBO and Sky in the UK and based on book, Voices from Chernobyl by Svetlana Alexievich, is even “dangerous”. He said the unborn baby of Jessie Buckleys’s character Lyudmilla Ignatenko, could not have absorbed radiation from its dying father as is claimed. Scientist Ulana Khomyuk, played by Emily Watson, is wrong in the show, when she declares; “The radiation would have killed the mother but the baby absorbed it instead”. “There is the dangerous representation that, because one of the victims was radioactive, his pregnant wife endangered her unborn child by entering his hospital room,” he wrote. “First, as discussed, none of the victims were radioactive, their exposures were almost exclusively external, not internal. “More importantly, risk to a foetus from an exposure like this is infinitesimally small. “I’m amazed the producers didn’t get technical advice from a health physicist or radiobiologist rather than basing much of their screenplay on a novel.”
@@lalalarose8197 I mean, most of the people that suffered from this incidents were regular citizens, it ain't exactly fair to consider their death deserved just because they lived in the USSR.
In reality, no one asked these people whether they want to go inside or not. There is an interview on RUclips. These people in suits simply had an order. At that time, opposing the order was equal to death. Modern Russia applies these methods now. I myself am from Ukraine. And I know, what Soviet power is and what Russia is. These people have no honor, no morality, no regret. Today, Russia is the heir to the Soviet.
@@Katakllizm What a bullshit. Over 600 000 people were volunteers, that IS a fact. From all over USSR. Basically every soviet city had its hero, who'd go to Chernobyl to help, and everybody knew they'd do it as volunteers. My parents personally 've known some of these people. No one forced them, they did id bc they wanted TO DO smth.
And the show even toned down the effects of ARS, in reality it was much worse. Akimov's face was gone as you said, he also tried to stand up one day and the skin on his legs fell down like an oversized sock. Lyudmila witnessed her husband cough up pieces of his organs and lungs which she tried to remove from his mouth with a bandage. The reason for why she was holding his shoes at the funeral was because they didn't fit his swollen feet anymore.
About shoes, not exacly that. She brings him some clothes that he could dressed up when he leave hospital. At the time Chernobyl was evacuated and the only thing shes keep after her husband died was this clothes. No foto, no others keepsakes , just pair of shoes and some shirts. That why some womens got pictures, and this pitty angel got this shoes. The one thing that remind her husband and these years. Pair of shoes.
@@patrykm7342 wtf are you talking about? She said it by herself, that they can't put shoes on him because his legs was like a mess. So she carry this shoes with her.
Coal miners had a special position in the USSR. They were a rare group that couldn’t be bullied by the government because if they stopped working, Russia would starve for lack of coal. That they continued to work under the conditions present shows the strength of their character. Also, Akimov, at the time of his interview, had lost his face. It had fallen off due to radiation injuries. He had to do his interview via morse code.
Here is some more gruesome details about the actual accident. Akimov, the guy who looked over the edge and who wasnt shown in the show? His face LITERALLY fell off, to the bone while he was alive. He was incredibly motivated to stay alive however. At one point he tried to stand off and the skin fell of his legs "like a sock sliding down your ankles". Vasily, the husband of the pregnant lady was so swollen no clothes would fit him. And at one point she tried to lift his arm form him and while she lifted the arm, the bone literally fell out of his flesh. I dont think there is anything that fucks up the human body as much as accute radiation poisoning.
Akimov didn't look over the edge. Akimov was in the control room when the explosion happened and later on went with Toptunov to open the valves to allow water into the core to avoid a meltdown, not knowing the reactor no longer existed at this point. The guy that looked over the edge in the first episode was Anatoly Sitnikov, Deputy Chief Operational Engineer operating reactors 1 and 2.
@@smiglo112 ah im sorry, difficult to keep the names straight. Assimed he was the one who looked over the edge since his face fell of so it would be logical to assume he got a particularly intense dosage on his head.
@@mistrants2745 Don't worry, even being Polish (so Slavic myself) sometimes it can be hard to keep track of all the Ukrainian and Russian names in the story. Not to mention writing them properly, which must be horrible for non-Slavs. Still, you're right about Akimov's face "falling off". I honestly feel pity for him, especialy seing as he believed he did everything right until the bitter end. And even more sorry for Sitnikov for being forced to do what he did, though according to his wife he did that because as he said "he knows the plant best".
yeah acute radiation sickness is fucked up, probably the worst way to die, i would honestly prefer be eaten alive from feet to head. I dont remember whats the story but there was a scientist that poisoned himself or herself in america i believe, i think it was a beauty product they were testing with a new additive and it ended up being radioactive, that was before anyone knew anything about radioactive stuff. he or she literally lost their jaw.
There is a point where just because you *can* prolong someone’s life doesn’t mean you *should*. Like I don’t get how people can look at an animal who is suffering and immediately know that they should be put down, but refuse to give that option to humans.
I have to admit I was a bit surprised, or disturbed (that might be strong but I can't think of another word) by the "thirst". I'm not hating, I can understand it. I guess it has to do with american culture that equates nudity with sex(altho as I said it's just a guess). As it was depicted, I felt more the "oppressive heat, dirt, unbearable conditions" than the "sexy" vibe. I wasn't at ease, even tho I do appreciate a nice bod, in the right context. I mean, hot construction workers in the beggining of summer naked to work? Nice fantasy, hell yes. Same workers covered in dirt dying in a hole because they have no other choice if several million people are to survive? Gives me shivers in my spine, not my bits.
“You know the old Russian proverb: Trust but verify” Abi: *Major Inhale to destroy the KGB’s reasoning* ... Abi: *Sad Exhale* that actually is a pretty good one
The reason for no fans for the miners is that alpha and beta radiation sticks to dust particles. The radiation can get deep into the lung via the dust and can’t get out. Gamma radiation (x-rays) goes thru you and doesn’t stay.
@@Martyn-1337 you can't just suck out the heat. You need to suck out warm air which lowers air preassure in the tunnel and sucks cold air back into it. So you still have air current lifting the dust.
Alpha particles can pass through trillions of atoms before hitting any atom. A solid wall to our eyes is as hollow as a giant sponge to an alpha particle.
from reports that are available, Akimovs skull was almost completely visible, it was like someone cut his face in half and peeled back the skin. He also attempted to stand up multiple times with the help of nurses and his leg skin fell off and partially the muscle was showing, as well as some bone.Due to him being somewhat overweight, the skin was being torn apart on a cellular level and it couldn't hold all the fat and muscle and hence ripped apart, if not for the morphine he would have been in exceptionally extreme pain begging for death.
Not to mention Lyudmilla Ignatenko accidentally pulled her husband's arm off while trying to lift him out of bed. Yeah, reality was a lot worse than the show, but there's only so much you can show on TV.
@@Martyn-1337 I know! You can't help but imagine your own [spoiler] in that situation. (Also, I think they're already over with the series at this point so the spoiler filter is a bit overcautious. Haha)
@@casualpotato44 i lost my eldest dog last year. it breaks your heart like loosing your own child. but if i were to be put in that situation? hell no. i would rather burn trees and mark radiation hot spots than tear up my soul and humanity.
The actual condition of the firemen was a lot, lot worse than the show depicts. Read 'Voices from Chernobyl' in which the wife's interviewed. Her description is horrific!. Brace yourselves for the next one!!
The photograph purporting to be Hisashi Ouchi is not actually him. It's of a burn victim taken in a hospital in Texas that specializes in treating burns. Ouchi was kept bandaged in medicated gauze at nearly all times, had a mechanical respirator, and a special mechanical bed that gently rocked him to prevent him from developing bed sores.
The makeup effects for the melting skin were brilliant but apparently even that was toned down for the show, so we can only imagine how horrific their wounds were in reality. 😔
As a swede this series has a special place in my heart because of the swedish director and some of the swedish actors. Sweden was also the first country outside Soviet to be contaminated by the accident. I was born exactly one month after the explosion and my mum was very worried that it would affect me in some way. I turned out ok initially but time will tell if there's gonna be some drawnout consequences regarding our health in the future (cancer).
The actor who played the miner is called Alex Ferns. He was famously on a British soap opera and he was terrifying in it! It's good that he's getting recognition he deserves!
yeah, this was russia in the 80's, that had to show a strong front and hold secrets, they believed in being strongest nation, they could not show weakness or mistakes. The part ya'll seemed to miss, was the guy pressed the shutdown button and that caused the reactor to explode, he was saying they followed protocol.
Tehnically it's Ukraine, not Russia, but then again back them all the former soviet republics were incorporated in the greater Soviet Union and it's easy to make that mistake.
"had to show a strong front and hold secrets, they believed in being strongest nation, they could not show weakness or mistakes." not much change since then
This show is just non-relenting like a real life horror movie. The soundtrack really sets the mood along with the ticking of the geiger counters. The unknown is so much more terrifying....you can’t see it but it’s creeping around.
Kudos to the make up artists - those hospital scenes are as gruesome as anything from The Walking Dead universe. Miners are MVPs as always, haha. Love the totally unselfconscious way they move around in their birthday suits.
Omg Imon, your hair is so cute! As for the wife going behind the plastic, she knew something bad had happened but not exactly that it was radiation poisoning. If you read the Memoirs of Chernobyl she talks about how she had no idea what was going on and how no one except her would help him. As others have mentioned, the Soviet Union kept information from the public, so she didn’t know that her just being in the same room as him would cause her harm and her unborn child harm. And as for Akimov, something isn’t mentioned in the show is how he was later recognized for what he did that night, which I won’t go into because spoilers, and was later posthumously awarded with the 3rd degree Order For Courage in 2008.
1:16 (British actors with fake Russian accents) -- The actors are actually using their natural accents, from what I've read about the making of Chernobyl. They considered the idea of Russian accents, and decided against this for two reasons. They felt that fake accents run the unintentional risk of sounding comical, and by having the actors use their natural accents, they can more easily focus their acting on delivering their dialogue in the correct tone for the emotions in the scenes.
Alex Fern is the main miner and is a British actor best known for staring in eastenders (a soap) and was good lucking then and now, tho a shock to see him in this, said to my mum i new his face while shopping and she told me i was like no way, the guy has stunning eyes.
@22:19 AZ-5 (looks like A3-5 in Russian) is the emergency shutdown button. In a analogy, they were expecting to put out a fire, but instead was made worse. Ep5 will explain all of the technical details when you get there.
Alright small physics lesson here when it comes to radiation and shielding yourself from it: There are three kinds of relevant radiation at work here. 1. Alpha radiation. These are basically small particles moving very fast. They cant pass through a lot of material, a foot of air already stops most of it. But if it dóes hit you it hits you like a train. Its incredibly powerful. This is why its insanely dangerous to inhale the dust. Because inside your body this type if radiation can cause massive damage. 2. Beta radiation. These are electrons flying around. They dont hit as hard as alpha radiation but they penetrate a lot deeper. Several meters of air for example. This is why its essential to wear thick clothing. A few layers of clothing will stop a significant amount of beta radiation. 3. Gamma radiation. Basically light with an incredibly short wavelength. This is the scary stuff that passes through walls. It doesnt hit remotely as hard as the other two but its incredibly difficult to stop. This is why even lead shielding sometimes isnt enough. All three can and will mess you up. But this is why different levels of protection can both be relevant AND insufficient. Why wearing clothes and facemasks is still useful even when lead shielding doesnt completely protect you.
I though Alpha and Beta radiation cannot even pass through a sheet of paper and even your bare skin is enough to stop them? Gamma on the other can go further and would take several cm of lead to stop (or several meter of dirt/concrete).
@@remliqa Pretty much. Alpha is indeed stopped by paper, cloth or skin (alpha radiation are helium nuclei). Beta is a bit more penetrative. Still, either may cause severe, if superficial burns given enough energy and a large dose. The particles are going to be stopped but the experience might be painful for you. It makes sense to wear clothes if you intend to stay around the radiation for a while. In case of miners, wearing clothes indeed would not have made much of a difference. Sort of. They were underground, with limited supply of air (=dust) and meters or ground protecting them. But! All of this does not work whenever they leave the tunnel. On the surface or near the entrance, they are just as exposed as everyone else. On the other hand, getting the job done faster means they are going to leave the area sooner (in reality, they did not get naked, though there are accounts of some miners taking off some of the clothing). (in places like Pripyat it is not only direct exposure that matters; clothes and masks also protect from radioactive dust sticking to you and getting inside your body)
This show is honestly one of the best ive ever seen from the directing to the performances the cinematography its not hollywoodized it portrays the true tragedy of Chernobyl the ending of the final episode of the show will hit you like a ton of bricks hopefully it wins every emmy it's been nominated for
And Akimov and Tuptonov opening those valves and pumping in the water didn't even make a difference, they were pumping water in a ditch with an open fissioning reactor core in it...
and according to one account, a nurse picked up a patient from the Chernobyl accident , and his (the patient) arm which was being held, came loose from his skin, and fell back onto his bed. another story tells of one of the scientists who tried to rescue a fellow coworker and carried him out and the guy being carried placed one of his hands on the other guys back , when he was dropped off for help he felt his back were his hand was began to burn ,and when he removed his shirt, he realizes that the guy he was carrying was so irradiated that his hand actually left a burn in the shape of his hand on his back.
Tula is located in Russia actually :) But the point is that it all was USSR, not just Ukranian SSR, but also RSFSR (Russia), BelSSR (Belorus) and also +12 republics.
Great show as always. Abi, we are here for ya just uh...don’t hurl on us lol. If you two aren’t doing this already, you may want to watch the inside the episode. It gives you a lot of surprising info and helps you digest what you watched. Stay strong, ladies. You rock.
Neat little detail, the miner says "This is Tula, this is our mine", and Tula is actually in Russia near Moscow, so those miners were Russians not Ukrainians. The Chernobyl disaster had people from all over the Soviet Union to help manage the disaster, Russians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, and so on and so on.
The importance of AZ-5 button in the show here is that it's the failsafe shutdown button. If something goes wrong they should be able to press that button and shutdown everything, but for some reason it didn't work at chernobyl.
Joshua Sweetvale that’s actually a good analogy. And like pulling a handbrake in a car can unintentionally lockup the rear wheels and send you into uncontrollable oversteer, AZ-5 unintentionally pushed the core from bad to impossibly worse.
@@01HondaS2kXD It's a good analogy, but not the way you explained it. When you emergency shutdown a commercial reactor running too hot and active it's likely to cause ton of damage. Now in this spesific scenario instead of damaging the fuel rods a bit or causing other downtime, the button acted as a bomb switch. It's like performing an emergency brake in a car, but instead of slowing down it makes you go faster and run into oncoming traffic, straight under the biggest 18-wheeler you can imagine.
No, it's a dumb analogy that only works for this flawed reactor design, in reality the AZ-5 ('SCRAM' in the US and 'TRIP' in the UK) completely shuts down the reactor with no damage, whenever a reactor anywhere is to be shutdown for refuelling or maintenance they use that button to insert all control rods simultaneously to kill the reaction. The reason the flaw here wasn't discovered immediately is because RBMK reactors do not need to be shutdown for refuelling or maintenance and so barring any emergencies the button would only ever be used once in it's lifetime and that would be when the reactor is being decommissioned.
Lyudmila isn't stupid, she just doesn't know the danger. She was told not to touch him, but as she says, she saw the nurses touching him and they were fine so why couldn't she? No one explained, so she just didn't know. I think the general public is much more informed now as to the effects of radiation sickness than they were then--probably because of Chernobyl. The effects of the tests in the US and the bombs in Japan would've been known to some, like some of the medical professionals, but not the general public. It makes it even more tragic to me, that no one told her.
@@boskee I somehow doubt that a woman who thinks miners/workers are attractive will be very open to the idea of being the breadwinner in the partnership instead of relying on the man. ;)
One of my uncles was sent there. His job was to dig up the top layer of dirt. My mom still has letters he sent from Chernobyl. I think he spent 5 months there. His lungs were messed up and he had burns on his legs. He died in 2003 at age 47. They say he had a really healthy heart and that’s why he lived that long. They were going to take his brother as well but their mom talked them out of it (he was her youngest and just got married and his wife was pregnant). Unfortunately he died a year after the one that did go from a brain aneurysm. Their oldest brother was volunteering to go but he was disabled because he took a hard hit to the head in a motorcycle accident 12 years prior.
18:28 - Fun Fact: The room Khomyuk and Legasov are sitting in here is in a municipal building in Lithuania. However, back in the 1980s, that building used to be a KGB jail. So Jared Harris and Emily Watson got a good place to get into that particular scene, since it's possible the room was at one point an actual cell.
Please study a little bit of of how radioactivity works, what is alpha/beta/gamma emission, so you can understand why wearing dense clothes and masks will actually help you in one cases and in other cases the led shielding won't help you, why limited exposure to high levels of radiation is not so dangerous than getting a small amount of low radioactive dust inside your body. That will help you out to get through following episodes without asking yourself irrelevant questions.
These two are far too disengaged for The Expanse I think. There is almost no fluff or wasted dialogue in that show. If they miss any of what is said by talking over it, they will be confused as Hell about everything later.
It's worth noting that all the "don't touch" protective measures are to protect the patient and not the other people. If the person survives the radiation they have very weak immune systems, so they need to have sterile areas to recover in.
@@sittingnut1 I haven't read the book, but from what I understand all this touching wasn't allowed in real life. The doctors didn't mess around with that. They put it in for drama purposes, kind of like how the helicopter didn't crash due to acute radiation poisoning.
@@TheGerrok i don't want to spoil the reactors, so I won't say more than to say, it was not a question of ignorance as original comment here assumes; she knew what may happen, but she did it anyway.
Fun fact 1 Around this time in America the military was spraying down soldiers with irradiated water, similar to what the 2 engineers were in in episode one that you saw die in episode 3, to see what happened to them. Fun fact number 2 They actually downplayed the radiation deaths. The fire fighter ended up caughing up most of his internal organs before he died. And at some point his wife tried to pick up his hand and arm and one of his bones just fell out. Glad to see you feeling the pain of the reality that is human suffering in much of human history. Well not glad but appreciative. It's important to remember the suffering of the past lest we forget it and lest we repeat it. A lot of people in modern politics are rhyming with history as we speak.
BetaThoughtExperiments if you’re trying to say that 2019 America is like the living nightmare of totalitarian Communist tyranny that was the USSR, then you’re fucking delusional. Just the fact that you’re on RUclips-that there even IS a RUclips, or anywhere you can speak your mind-disapproves your insinuation.
The reason they didn't show akimov's face is that it quite literally melted off at that point and there essentially wasn't a face. It's still so hard to believe this all actually happened.
The one thing in the series that floored me.. was how the radiation affected the exposed, organs, bloodvessels and how morphine wouldn't even work for up to three weeks. Wow. And how they use the geigercounter noise (the 'static') is rather haunting throughout the series, everything is just brilliantly made and keeps feeding info, so you're almost out of breath at times. Thank you SO much for a beautiful reaction. ⚘⚘
My brother died from a situation that had some parallels. It was not radiation and it was not radiation that led to him dying from the inside out. What happened was his immune system collapsed and he picked up to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria. These strains arise partly because the meat we eat is largely raised with antibiotics in their feed, leading to an evolutionary pressure for the rise of antibiotic resistant strains of common bacteria. Most of us would fight them off. But with his collapsed immune system he couldn't. And since they were antibiotic resistant, there were no medications that would work. So he was eaten from the inside out. We couldn't do anything.
You couldn’t just leave the country though, especially then... and this is a watered down version, including with the husband! It was too horrific to show!... 😔
The girl on the left has not been in a single history lesson during her schooling😞. It is just sad people have no idea about what the KGB or soviet culture.
I also want to add, why Akimov was not shown. His deterioration was so horrifically bad, I'm glad they did not show it. This is pretty much what I read about him. "I have access to some records under the RSC royal society of chemistry, under symptoms of nuclear disease etc case study of him was there the coroners report was available partially to me he confirmed Akimov's skull was almost completely visible, it was like someone cut his face in half and peeled back the skin. He also attempted to stand up with the help of nurses and the skin on his legs fell down like an over sized sock with muscle and some bone showing. The same happened to his belly/waist region, the reason was largely due to him being overweight. The skin was being torn apart on a cellular level and it couldn't hold all the fat and muscle and hence ripped apart. If not for the morphine he would have been in exceptionally extreme pain but if he was "lucky" and his nerves were the first to go. "
I was 3 years old playing outside when my mom heard about in in the radio. She rushed out and carried me inside the house as fast as she could. They told way too late about it. Several days have been gone. For information why the guys looked like that: their white blood cells got destroyed and skin and flesh started to fall off. They slowly fell appart. Eventually died by malfunkction of their organs, blood loss or sepsis.
Regarding the “why no Russian actors” question: Vladimir Putin was furious about this show when it debuted. The Russian government is STILL touchy about “western propaganda”, and pissing off the state is a good way to have an accident.
The wife was an incredible woman, she stayed with them, taking care of the firefighters since none of the nurses would touch them. She brought them food, even though they could no longer digest food, even changed her husband's diapers , when he lost control of his bowls, near the end , she changed his diaper 5 times a night.the makeup is incredible and was actually scaled back, so as to not scare the audience, that's why they chose not to show the last scientists face, since it was so bad.
AZ5 is the correspondant term that in Western Reactors is called the SCRAM button, what it does is release the control rod drive , and the control rod s fall to the bottom of the core, placing an absorbant material, in this case Boron, which readily absorbs nuetrons(western Reactors generally use Hafnium, which is better than boron for various reasons for that purpose), this stops the Reactor dead in its tracks, and from there on the main concern is Xenon and the decay heat of the reactor. Akimov and Totanov told Kyomuk that the Reactor exploded almost immediately after Akimov Scrammed the Reactor, which on the face of it is simply impossible, but I can't tell you why it happens without spoilers.
AZ-5 is the "emergency stop" button; it activates every safety feature in the core simultaneously as fast as possible, in fact it stops everything so completely that it makes the core go cold/die, which takes many days to reset and restart. Two witnesses are saying conclusively that the AZ-5 button was pressed - and then the reactor blew up. Everyone's confused because this makes no sense, it would be like setting the emergency brake on your car and then having the car accelerate violently. There are some hidden scientific details they've yet to uncover..
I still remember the accident. I was 10 years old and me & family saw the news on the television ( ca. 4-5 days after the accident....remember the Russian Union at that time didn´t want bad news about their country) . At this time the radioactive cloud was already above Europe. My parents told us that we were not aloud to go outside when its raining, play in the garden, eat fresh food from our garden...especially mushrooms or go in the woods. Some days/weeks/ months later we had mutated Flowers/dandelions in our garden. I was very afraid at this time....believe me. It´s a great miniseries - most of this is true! It´s hard but keep watching! Sorry for my english. Greetings from North Germany.
They didn't understand the concept of radiation, it was never an element that anybody encountered or understood before during that time. All they thought was that it's was like fire burns, that's why the wife didn't understand why she couldn't touch her husband. Because she thought he was only burned.
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Imon_Snow are you guys following the explosion that just happened in Russia
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My reaction after being mugged was to laugh about it. Stress gets relieved in funny ways. Nobody rational is going to think you're actually amused! :)
Don't worry about it. You're not laughing when it's really inappropriate. I'm super allergic to annoying reactions, but I'm loving these.
The firefighter Ignatenko was scheduled to go on leave at 4am that day. He and his wife had plans to leave Pripyat for a vacation getaway. He missed out on survival by less than 3 hours.
Holy shit. Poor guy. 😔I think him and his wife were newly weds too.
They were, you can find more in Svetlana Alexjevich book. Lyudmila's story is really heartbreaking... Terrible fate.
Let's face it though - first responders tend to help out if there's a big emergency, even if their shift has ended. If he knew his comrades were going in, he'd most likely have gone to join them too.
Thought this might interest you. I too fell in love with their story but from The Final Warning movie in 1991.
Unfortunately this movie series relied too heavily of the book Voices From Chernobyl and it is not a factually correct document and the writer took a few liberties. As for Lyudmilla, she did not cause her child to die due to sitting near her husband. I became obsessed with their love story when The Final Warning movie debuted about Chernobyl in the year 91 or 92. (It too is free for viewing here on RUclips.
I contacted Dr. Gayle in 1999 and he informed me that she received her dose of radiation by sitting outside their flat on the balcony all night watching the men battle the fire.
Their apartment block was adjacent to the firestation and faced the block 4 off Zavodska Street which is 2.15 miles from the block 4 explosion. Her staying on the balcony all night watching for the men to return eating cookies she was being directly exposed for hours. Then after walking to the hospital and back she walked closer to Yaniv Rail Station and even closer to block 4 at 1.6 miles away from the exploded reactor. Now mind you the red forest inundated with radiation was only 1.1 miles SE of her apartment block Yaniv Rail Station is kind of in the middle of where the smoke plume headed up the countryside. If you pull up Google Maps Terrain you can find Yaniv Rail Station and Zavodska Street just NE of the plant and Just South of Yupiter Building. She stayed there a few more hours before catching the train to Moscow. Upon arriving at Moscow she was reading "hot" with radioactive contamination on her skin, clothes hair... Even her money! They took all of her clothes and she was given a robe and some cheap garments. After being through a decontamination scrubdown they handed her back her contaminated money but everything else was sent to radiation contamination care.
She did not obtain a radiation dose from sitting near Vasya. Sadly I think this poor woman to this day believes her actions possibly had something to do with the death of Natashenka but Dr. Gale assured me this is not true. In 2001 I interviewed Dr. Angelina Guskova the female head doctor in Moscow and she confirmed these findings.
Lyudmilla was already contaminated before she ever arrived in Moscow. After her husband was decontaminated he was not dangerous to her. The plastic barriers were to keep healthy people with infectious germs on themselves away from the patients because ARS acute radiation sickness patients they were dealing with have had their immune systems destroyed by the radiation.
Best Wishes,
A Chernobyl nerd.
Ref: 9 news AU Chernobyl HBO
"Mr Gale said another storyline of the show, which was made by American network HBO and Sky in the UK and based on book, Voices from Chernobyl by Svetlana Alexievich, is even “dangerous”. He said the unborn baby of Jessie Buckleys’s character Lyudmilla Ignatenko, could not have absorbed radiation from its dying father as is claimed.
Scientist Ulana Khomyuk, played by Emily Watson, is wrong in the show, when she
declares; “The radiation would have killed the mother but the baby absorbed it instead”. “There is the dangerous representation that, because one of the victims was radioactive, his pregnant wife endangered her unborn child by entering his hospital room,” he wrote.
“First, as discussed, none of the victims were radioactive, their exposures were almost exclusively external, not internal. “More importantly, risk to a foetus from an exposure like this is infinitesimally small. “I’m amazed the producers didn’t get technical advice from a health physicist or radiobiologist rather than basing much of their screenplay on a novel.”
"Do we get more heroes now?"
Chernobyl is basically a tale of dramatic heroism.
Horrific circumstances create heroes.
@@lalalarose8197 I mean, most of the people that suffered from this incidents were regular citizens, it ain't exactly fair to consider their death deserved just because they lived in the USSR.
In reality, no one asked these people whether they want to go inside or not. There is an interview on RUclips. These people in suits simply had an order. At that time, opposing the order was equal to death. Modern Russia applies these methods now. I myself am from Ukraine. And I know, what Soviet power is and what Russia is. These people have no honor, no morality, no regret.
Today, Russia is the heir to the Soviet.
@@Katakllizm What a bullshit. Over 600 000 people were volunteers, that IS a fact. From all over USSR. Basically every soviet city had its hero, who'd go to Chernobyl to help, and everybody knew they'd do it as volunteers. My parents personally 've known some of these people. No one forced them, they did id bc they wanted TO DO smth.
@@Alexandra_Indina the fact that you boys still hold on to the USSR when they were a dictatorship that controlled the flow of information is insane
If the KGB is shadowing you, you DON'T confront them...not if you want to live, not if you want your family...your friends to live.
Lol family? friends? dont believe in everything you hear
^ found the KGB spy
@@olegshtolc7245 What does that even mean lol
@@hep_fulla_pep what he has said its ridiculous. in the 80s even if kgb was on you they wouldnt touch your family, not to mention your friends
@@olegshtolc7245 Wait really?
And the show even toned down the effects of ARS, in reality it was much worse. Akimov's face was gone as you said, he also tried to stand up one day and the skin on his legs fell down like an oversized sock. Lyudmila witnessed her husband cough up pieces of his organs and lungs which she tried to remove from his mouth with a bandage. The reason for why she was holding his shoes at the funeral was because they didn't fit his swollen feet anymore.
About shoes, not exacly that. She brings him some clothes that he could dressed up when he leave hospital. At the time Chernobyl was evacuated and the only thing shes keep after her husband died was this clothes. No foto, no others keepsakes , just pair of shoes and some shirts. That why some womens got pictures, and this pitty angel got this shoes. The one thing that remind her husband and these years. Pair of shoes.
@@patrykm7342 wtf are you talking about? She said it by herself, that they can't put shoes on him because his legs was like a mess. So she carry this shoes with her.
@@NuclearDragonTwitch why must you curse though?
@@PeverellTheThird lmao did you get triggered by an acronym? it's called free speech
Coal miners had a special position in the USSR. They were a rare group that couldn’t be bullied by the government because if they stopped working, Russia would starve for lack of coal. That they continued to work under the conditions present shows the strength of their character.
Also, Akimov, at the time of his interview, had lost his face. It had fallen off due to radiation injuries. He had to do his interview via morse code.
Here is some more gruesome details about the actual accident.
Akimov, the guy who looked over the edge and who wasnt shown in the show? His face LITERALLY fell off, to the bone while he was alive. He was incredibly motivated to stay alive however. At one point he tried to stand off and the skin fell of his legs "like a sock sliding down your ankles".
Vasily, the husband of the pregnant lady was so swollen no clothes would fit him. And at one point she tried to lift his arm form him and while she lifted the arm, the bone literally fell out of his flesh.
I dont think there is anything that fucks up the human body as much as accute radiation poisoning.
Akimov didn't look over the edge. Akimov was in the control room when the explosion happened and later on went with Toptunov to open the valves to allow water into the core to avoid a meltdown, not knowing the reactor no longer existed at this point.
The guy that looked over the edge in the first episode was Anatoly Sitnikov, Deputy Chief Operational Engineer operating reactors 1 and 2.
@@smiglo112 ah im sorry, difficult to keep the names straight. Assimed he was the one who looked over the edge since his face fell of so it would be logical to assume he got a particularly intense dosage on his head.
@@mistrants2745 Don't worry, even being Polish (so Slavic myself) sometimes it can be hard to keep track of all the Ukrainian and Russian names in the story.
Not to mention writing them properly, which must be horrible for non-Slavs.
Still, you're right about Akimov's face "falling off". I honestly feel pity for him, especialy seing as he believed he did everything right until the bitter end.
And even more sorry for Sitnikov for being forced to do what he did, though according to his wife he did that because as he said "he knows the plant best".
yeah acute radiation sickness is fucked up, probably the worst way to die, i would honestly prefer be eaten alive from feet to head.
I dont remember whats the story but there was a scientist that poisoned himself or herself in america i believe, i think it was a beauty product they were testing with a new additive and it ended up being radioactive, that was before anyone knew anything about radioactive stuff.
he or she literally lost their jaw.
There is a point where just because you *can* prolong someone’s life doesn’t mean you *should*.
Like I don’t get how people can look at an animal who is suffering and immediately know that they should be put down, but refuse to give that option to humans.
This is literally the first reaction to Chernobyl where the miners' booties are appreciated. You girls are awesome :DDD
The thirst don't stop on this channel.
I have to admit I was a bit surprised, or disturbed (that might be strong but I can't think of another word) by the "thirst". I'm not hating, I can understand it. I guess it has to do with american culture that equates nudity with sex(altho as I said it's just a guess). As it was depicted, I felt more the "oppressive heat, dirt, unbearable conditions" than the "sexy" vibe. I wasn't at ease, even tho I do appreciate a nice bod, in the right context. I mean, hot construction workers in the beggining of summer naked to work? Nice fantasy, hell yes. Same workers covered in dirt dying in a hole because they have no other choice if several million people are to survive? Gives me shivers in my spine, not my bits.
The one of the left is seeming to enjoy that scene more than she should. Lmao
I'm not sure they were appreciating the booties but the dong's XD
“You know the old Russian proverb: Trust but verify”
Abi: *Major Inhale to destroy the KGB’s reasoning*
...
Abi: *Sad Exhale* that actually is a pretty good one
Hahah!
In Russian it actually rhymes.
The thing is it is not really a russian old proverb. It's Stalin's words.
14:52 "They're naked!" In a somewhat agitated tone. Realisation hits, "They're completely naked" in a pleased tone. Has me laughing my ass off.
I...I did not expect this to be the "thirst trap" episode. But then again, what else was I expecting from the miners scene? 😂
The reason for no fans for the miners is that alpha and beta radiation sticks to dust particles. The radiation can get deep into the lung via the dust and can’t get out. Gamma radiation (x-rays) goes thru you and doesn’t stay.
so how about an exhaust fan? instead of blowing into the cave how about sucking out the heat towards outside?
just two cents
@@Martyn-1337 you can't just suck out the heat. You need to suck out warm air which lowers air preassure in the tunnel and sucks cold air back into it. So you still have air current lifting the dust.
@Jerry C You don't need radioactive particles present in the dirt for it to be radioactive
Alpha particles can pass through trillions of atoms before hitting any atom. A solid wall to our eyes is as hollow as a giant sponge to an alpha particle.
I couldn’t imagine that radiated dust in my lungs ugh
from reports that are available, Akimovs skull was almost completely visible, it was like someone cut his face in half and peeled back the skin. He also attempted to stand up multiple times with the help of nurses and his leg skin fell off and partially the muscle was showing, as well as some bone.Due to him being somewhat overweight, the skin was being torn apart on a cellular level and it couldn't hold all the fat and muscle and hence ripped apart, if not for the morphine he would have been in exceptionally extreme pain begging for death.
Not to mention Lyudmilla Ignatenko accidentally pulled her husband's arm off while trying to lift him out of bed. Yeah, reality was a lot worse than the show, but there's only so much you can show on TV.
Morphine wouldn't work after a while, unfortunately. The chains and arteries split open and rot, preventing proper circulation of blood.
I wonder why the radiation affected him so much but Dyatlov lived til 95
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 If your blood can't circulate then you die.
20:52 "Give us more pain!" -Imon
Oof. Next is ep is gonna deliver some pain.
Considering i'm ..[spoiler]... lover, i was totally uncomfortable with it. i wasn't able to get a long sleep that night
@@Martyn-1337 I know! You can't help but imagine your own [spoiler] in that situation.
(Also, I think they're already over with the series at this point so the spoiler filter is a bit overcautious. Haha)
@@casualpotato44 i lost my eldest dog last year. it breaks your heart like loosing your own child. but if i were to be put in that situation? hell no. i would rather burn trees and mark radiation hot spots than tear up my soul and humanity.
The actual condition of the firemen was a lot, lot worse than the show depicts. Read 'Voices from Chernobyl' in which the wife's interviewed. Her description is horrific!. Brace yourselves for the next one!!
If you google hisashi ouchi, you can find a real photo of someone with this level of radiation poisoning
The photograph purporting to be Hisashi Ouchi is not actually him. It's of a burn victim taken in a hospital in Texas that specializes in treating burns. Ouchi was kept bandaged in medicated gauze at nearly all times, had a mechanical respirator, and a special mechanical bed that gently rocked him to prevent him from developing bed sores.
Voices of Cherbobyl is an oral history, not fact-based or sourced material. Read with caution.
That book is a hard read, but I’m better for having read it
The makeup effects for the melting skin were brilliant but apparently even that was toned down for the show, so we can only imagine how horrific their wounds were in reality. 😔
6:03 lol "ALL OF THE LIQUID NITROGEN IN THE SOVIET UNION."
reaction: ok.. yea... that's obtainable
😂😂
As a swede this series has a special place in my heart because of the swedish director and some of the swedish actors. Sweden was also the first country outside Soviet to be contaminated by the accident. I was born exactly one month after the explosion and my mum was very worried that it would affect me in some way. I turned out ok initially but time will tell if there's gonna be some drawnout consequences regarding our health in the future (cancer).
The actor who played the miner is called Alex Ferns. He was famously on a British soap opera and he was terrifying in it! It's good that he's getting recognition he deserves!
yeah, this was russia in the 80's, that had to show a strong front and hold secrets, they believed in being strongest nation, they could not show weakness or mistakes. The part ya'll seemed to miss, was the guy pressed the shutdown button and that caused the reactor to explode, he was saying they followed protocol.
And as we find out in episode 5, they did not follow protocol.
Russia didn't just want to be strong. It wanted to expand and spread its authoritarian Communism.
Tehnically it's Ukraine, not Russia, but then again back them all the former soviet republics were incorporated in the greater Soviet Union and it's easy to make that mistake.
"had to show a strong front and hold secrets, they believed in being strongest nation, they could not show weakness or mistakes."
not much change since then
it wasn't Russia, but USSR. Though modern day Russia aren't much different. The show isn't about Russia though.
This show is just non-relenting like a real life horror movie. The soundtrack really sets the mood along with the ticking of the geiger counters. The unknown is so much more terrifying....you can’t see it but it’s creeping around.
And realising that every sound in the entire soundtrack, are made of only noises from a decommissioned similar power plant.
Next episode.....whew boy.
Emotional train: out of the frying pan and into the radioactive inferno
I concur. From what they have said at the beginning, the next episode will be something of "an ordeal".
They really rub it in deep in the next one.
You guys have quickly become one of my favourite reaction RUclipsrs. You bring a great energy and perspective to the stuff you watch.
Kudos to the make up artists - those hospital scenes are as gruesome as anything from The Walking Dead universe.
Miners are MVPs as always, haha. Love the totally unselfconscious way they move around in their birthday suits.
13:00 - "It doesn't matter"
Yes i matters, and it matters A LOT.
Read about alpha-particle and its influence on a human body.
Y'all missed the best line, about the coal miners: "these men work in the dark, they see everything" and then the part when they're working naked.
Omg Imon, your hair is so cute! As for the wife going behind the plastic, she knew something bad had happened but not exactly that it was radiation poisoning. If you read the Memoirs of Chernobyl she talks about how she had no idea what was going on and how no one except her would help him. As others have mentioned, the Soviet Union kept information from the public, so she didn’t know that her just being in the same room as him would cause her harm and her unborn child harm.
And as for Akimov, something isn’t mentioned in the show is how he was later recognized for what he did that night, which I won’t go into because spoilers, and was later posthumously awarded with the 3rd degree Order For Courage in 2008.
1:16 (British actors with fake Russian accents) -- The actors are actually using their natural accents, from what I've read about the making of Chernobyl. They considered the idea of Russian accents, and decided against this for two reasons. They felt that fake accents run the unintentional risk of sounding comical, and by having the actors use their natural accents, they can more easily focus their acting on delivering their dialogue in the correct tone for the emotions in the scenes.
Alex Fern is the main miner and is a British actor best known for staring in eastenders (a soap) and was good lucking then and now, tho a shock to see him in this, said to my mum i new his face while shopping and she told me i was like no way, the guy has stunning eyes.
I work in an underground limestone mine... And I'm single... Just saying...
@22:19 AZ-5 (looks like A3-5 in Russian) is the emergency shutdown button. In a analogy, they were expecting to put out a fire, but instead was made worse. Ep5 will explain all of the technical details when you get there.
I've never wanted to be a mine worker more than now.
Alright small physics lesson here when it comes to radiation and shielding yourself from it:
There are three kinds of relevant radiation at work here.
1. Alpha radiation. These are basically small particles moving very fast. They cant pass through a lot of material, a foot of air already stops most of it. But if it dóes hit you it hits you like a train. Its incredibly powerful. This is why its insanely dangerous to inhale the dust. Because inside your body this type if radiation can cause massive damage.
2. Beta radiation. These are electrons flying around. They dont hit as hard as alpha radiation but they penetrate a lot deeper. Several meters of air for example. This is why its essential to wear thick clothing. A few layers of clothing will stop a significant amount of beta radiation.
3. Gamma radiation. Basically light with an incredibly short wavelength. This is the scary stuff that passes through walls. It doesnt hit remotely as hard as the other two but its incredibly difficult to stop. This is why even lead shielding sometimes isnt enough.
All three can and will mess you up. But this is why different levels of protection can both be relevant AND insufficient. Why wearing clothes and facemasks is still useful even when lead shielding doesnt completely protect you.
I though Alpha and Beta radiation cannot even pass through a sheet of paper and even your bare skin is enough to stop them? Gamma on the other can go further and would take several cm of lead to stop (or several meter of dirt/concrete).
@@remliqa beta can get through paper and skin. Alpha is indeed stopped by that.
@@remliqa Pretty much. Alpha is indeed stopped by paper, cloth or skin (alpha radiation are helium nuclei). Beta is a bit more penetrative. Still, either may cause severe, if superficial burns given enough energy and a large dose. The particles are going to be stopped but the experience might be painful for you. It makes sense to wear clothes if you intend to stay around the radiation for a while.
In case of miners, wearing clothes indeed would not have made much of a difference. Sort of. They were underground, with limited supply of air (=dust) and meters or ground protecting them. But! All of this does not work whenever they leave the tunnel. On the surface or near the entrance, they are just as exposed as everyone else. On the other hand, getting the job done faster means they are going to leave the area sooner (in reality, they did not get naked, though there are accounts of some miners taking off some of the clothing).
(in places like Pripyat it is not only direct exposure that matters; clothes and masks also protect from radioactive dust sticking to you and getting inside your body)
Those coal miners are so salty it's flippin beautiful. Get stuff done boys!
This show is honestly one of the best ive ever seen from the directing to the performances the cinematography its not hollywoodized it portrays the true tragedy of Chernobyl the ending of the final episode of the show will hit you like a ton of bricks hopefully it wins every emmy it's been nominated for
And Akimov and Tuptonov opening those valves and pumping in the water didn't even make a difference, they were pumping water in a ditch with an open fissioning reactor core in it...
Ladies I'm a mine worker and live in LA😆.
and according to one account, a nurse picked up a patient from the Chernobyl accident , and his (the patient) arm which was being held, came loose from his skin, and fell back onto his bed. another story tells of one of the scientists who tried to rescue a fellow coworker and carried him out and the guy being carried placed one of his hands on the other guys back , when he was dropped off for help he felt his back were his hand was began to burn ,and when he removed his shirt, he realizes that the guy he was carrying was so irradiated that his hand actually left a burn in the shape of his hand on his back.
Tula is located in Russia actually :) But the point is that it all was USSR, not just Ukranian SSR, but also RSFSR (Russia), BelSSR (Belorus) and also +12 republics.
The woman with the man, if you read The Voices of Chernobyl, you would understand why she was like that. I can kind of understand her.
Great show as always. Abi, we are here for ya just uh...don’t hurl on us lol. If you two aren’t doing this already, you may want to watch the inside the episode. It gives you a lot of surprising info and helps you digest what you watched. Stay strong, ladies. You rock.
"They are naked. Oh they are completely naked. Oh thank god."
Neat little detail, the miner says "This is Tula, this is our mine", and Tula is actually in Russia near Moscow, so those miners were Russians not Ukrainians. The Chernobyl disaster had people from all over the Soviet Union to help manage the disaster, Russians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, and so on and so on.
The question is. Will you survive the next episode?
They won't. 😭
They gonna die
Episode 4 is like “the red wedding” of this show; everyone who’s already seen it just wants to watch the reaction of those who haven’t.
That episode kill me 😢
bees in the what now? Is it because of animals? For me ep.3 is much harder than ep.4.
The importance of AZ-5 button in the show here is that it's the failsafe shutdown button. If something goes wrong they should be able to press that button and shutdown everything, but for some reason it didn't work at chernobyl.
It's the hand brake.
Joshua Sweetvale that’s actually a good analogy. And like pulling a handbrake in a car can unintentionally lockup the rear wheels and send you into uncontrollable oversteer, AZ-5 unintentionally pushed the core from bad to impossibly worse.
@@01HondaS2kXD It's a good analogy, but not the way you explained it. When you emergency shutdown a commercial reactor running too hot and active it's likely to cause ton of damage. Now in this spesific scenario instead of damaging the fuel rods a bit or causing other downtime, the button acted as a bomb switch. It's like performing an emergency brake in a car, but instead of slowing down it makes you go faster and run into oncoming traffic, straight under the biggest 18-wheeler you can imagine.
No, it's a dumb analogy that only works for this flawed reactor design, in reality the AZ-5 ('SCRAM' in the US and 'TRIP' in the UK) completely shuts down the reactor with no damage, whenever a reactor anywhere is to be shutdown for refuelling or maintenance they use that button to insert all control rods simultaneously to kill the reaction. The reason the flaw here wasn't discovered immediately is because RBMK reactors do not need to be shutdown for refuelling or maintenance and so barring any emergencies the button would only ever be used once in it's lifetime and that would be when the reactor is being decommissioned.
Lyudmila isn't stupid, she just doesn't know the danger. She was told not to touch him, but as she says, she saw the nurses touching him and they were fine so why couldn't she? No one explained, so she just didn't know. I think the general public is much more informed now as to the effects of radiation sickness than they were then--probably because of Chernobyl. The effects of the tests in the US and the bombs in Japan would've been known to some, like some of the medical professionals, but not the general public. It makes it even more tragic to me, that no one told her.
All of a sudden I get an urge to change career... like become a miner or a viking... not sure why. :P
Coal mining is not exactly a job with a future. ;)
@@Quotenwagnerianer A future with a funny, attractive youtuber is a damn good future
@@boskee And who is going to pay the bill when the mine closes in the near future? ;)
@@Quotenwagnerianer Well, youtuber, obviously :D
@@boskee I somehow doubt that a woman who thinks miners/workers are attractive will be very open to the idea of being the breadwinner in the partnership instead of relying on the man. ;)
One of my uncles was sent there. His job was to dig up the top layer of dirt. My mom still has letters he sent from Chernobyl. I think he spent 5 months there. His lungs were messed up and he had burns on his legs. He died in 2003 at age 47. They say he had a really healthy heart and that’s why he lived that long.
They were going to take his brother as well but their mom talked them out of it (he was her youngest and just got married and his wife was pregnant). Unfortunately he died a year after the one that did go from a brain aneurysm.
Their oldest brother was volunteering to go but he was disabled because he took a hard hit to the head in a motorcycle accident 12 years prior.
18:28 - Fun Fact: The room Khomyuk and Legasov are sitting in here is in a municipal building in Lithuania. However, back in the 1980s, that building used to be a KGB jail. So Jared Harris and Emily Watson got a good place to get into that particular scene, since it's possible the room was at one point an actual cell.
Please study a little bit of of how radioactivity works, what is alpha/beta/gamma emission, so you can understand why wearing dense clothes and masks will actually help you in one cases and in other cases the led shielding won't help you, why limited exposure to high levels of radiation is not so dangerous than getting a small amount of low radioactive dust inside your body. That will help you out to get through following episodes without asking yourself irrelevant questions.
“They’re oil riggers.”
😂
It's a hard hitting series but brilliantly done. Stick with it and your questions will be answered.
You guys perving on the miners was hilarious!
*middle aged russian man exists*
Abi: ''he's a husband''
Tula, where the coal mine is is in Russia. You should watch The Expanse to see Jared Harris in a completely different role.
These two are far too disengaged for The Expanse I think. There is almost no fluff or wasted dialogue in that show. If they miss any of what is said by talking over it, they will be confused as Hell about everything later.
"...the working men!" Lol 👍
I'm a working man
The quickest and most effective way of evacuation - YALL NEED TO GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE 😂😂
Im glad I'm not the only one that had that reaction to the Ukrainian miners
Actually Tula is located in Siberia (Russia)so those miners were russians,but back then they all were Soviets so
@@сатисфашон Not in Siberia,just 200km south from Moscow.
as a man who is questioning his sexuality im so amused how girls can find them attractive 😊 good for the miners :3
The Vast Majority Of In The Soviet Union Did Not Have Knowledge Of Radiation At The Time. So She Probably Thought Being Around Him Was Harmless
It's worth noting that all the "don't touch" protective measures are to protect the patient and not the other people. If the person survives the radiation they have very weak immune systems, so they need to have sterile areas to recover in.
she, real person, knew. read "voices from chernobyl", hers are the 1st words there
@@sittingnut1 I haven't read the book, but from what I understand all this touching wasn't allowed in real life. The doctors didn't mess around with that. They put it in for drama purposes, kind of like how the helicopter didn't crash due to acute radiation poisoning.
@@TheGerrok i don't want to spoil the reactors, so I won't say more than to say, it was not a question of ignorance as original comment here assumes; she knew what may happen, but she did it anyway.
No, she was warned
Fun fact 1
Around this time in America the military was spraying down soldiers with irradiated water, similar to what the 2 engineers were in in episode one that you saw die in episode 3, to see what happened to them.
Fun fact number 2
They actually downplayed the radiation deaths. The fire fighter ended up caughing up most of his internal organs before he died. And at some point his wife tried to pick up his hand and arm and one of his bones just fell out.
Glad to see you feeling the pain of the reality that is human suffering in much of human history. Well not glad but appreciative. It's important to remember the suffering of the past lest we forget it and lest we repeat it.
A lot of people in modern politics are rhyming with history as we speak.
BetaThoughtExperiments if you’re trying to say that 2019 America is like the living nightmare of totalitarian Communist tyranny that was the USSR, then you’re fucking delusional. Just the fact that you’re on RUclips-that there even IS a RUclips, or anywhere you can speak your mind-disapproves your insinuation.
one does not simply confront the KGB.
The reason they didn't show akimov's face is that it quite literally melted off at that point and there essentially wasn't a face. It's still so hard to believe this all actually happened.
19:17 ya’ll crazy....scaring me!!
omg Imon the hair 😍, and these miners are the real hero's 👏 "they're oil riggers right?" "where do we need to go, Minnesota?" 😂😂 yall are so precious
14:42 "Biology, man" ----- Nah, I'd say "Radiation, man"
Imon, I'm from Hungary, and I like your hair :D
Nice video, keep it up please.
Watching this on Tuesday, shoutout!
🙌🏾🙌🏾 Ep 3 and Imon wit the long hair
She needed more so she could pull it out when things keep getting worse. Or to hide weapons for toe cutting.
Those are some brave workers and miners. I don't think I would have the guts to do what they did.
Nice braids by the way.
15:02 There are some nice what? 🤔🤔🤔
The one thing in the series that floored me.. was how the radiation affected the exposed, organs, bloodvessels and how morphine wouldn't even work for up to three weeks. Wow. And how they use the geigercounter noise (the 'static') is rather haunting throughout the series, everything is just brilliantly made and keeps feeding info, so you're almost out of breath at times. Thank you SO much for a beautiful reaction. ⚘⚘
miners were from tula russia, as in show title says, though others also came from donesk ukraine(region that us now fighting to rejoin russia)
My brother died from a situation that had some parallels. It was not radiation and it was not radiation that led to him dying from the inside out. What happened was his immune system collapsed and he picked up to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria. These strains arise partly because the meat we eat is largely raised with antibiotics in their feed, leading to an evolutionary pressure for the rise of antibiotic resistant strains of common bacteria. Most of us would fight them off. But with his collapsed immune system he couldn't. And since they were antibiotic resistant, there were no medications that would work. So he was eaten from the inside out. We couldn't do anything.
You couldn’t just leave the country though, especially then... and this is a watered down version, including with the husband! It was too horrific to show!... 😔
Tula is not Ukraine. Tula is an industrial city and the administrative center of Tula Oblast, Russia, located 193 kilometers (120 mi) south of Moscow
The girl on the left has not been in a single history lesson during her schooling😞. It is just sad people have no idea about what the KGB or soviet culture.
13:00 it actually does matter quite a lot. It's one thing to be around radioactive dust, and quite another breathing it in with every gasp of air.
I love you girls. You two are so hilarious and I love your honest reactions and commentary. New sub here!
I also want to add, why Akimov was not shown. His deterioration was so horrifically bad, I'm glad they did not show it. This is pretty much what I read about him.
"I have access to some records under the RSC royal society of chemistry, under symptoms of nuclear disease etc case study of him was there the coroners report was available partially to me he confirmed Akimov's skull was almost completely visible, it was like someone cut his face in half and peeled back the skin. He also attempted to stand up with the help of nurses and the skin on his legs fell down like an over sized sock with muscle and some bone showing. The same happened to his belly/waist region, the reason was largely due to him being overweight. The skin was being torn apart on a cellular level and it couldn't hold all the fat and muscle and hence ripped apart. If not for the morphine he would have been in exceptionally extreme pain but if he was "lucky" and his nerves were the first to go. "
Way too much giggling going on for such a serious show...
Yeah, I'm afraid I found parts of their reaction utterly surreal given the subject matter. Do todays youth take ANYTHING seriously?
I was 3 years old playing outside when my mom heard about in in the radio. She rushed out and carried me inside the house as fast as she could. They told way too late about it. Several days have been gone.
For information why the guys looked like that: their white blood cells got destroyed and skin and flesh started to fall off. They slowly fell appart. Eventually died by malfunkction of their organs, blood loss or sepsis.
thanks for the reaction, really looking forward to 4 episodes ...greetings from Ukraine)
I love you 2 reactions. Especially the comment about marrying the coal miners. 💍♥️💍
Regarding the “why no Russian actors” question: Vladimir Putin was furious about this show when it debuted. The Russian government is STILL touchy about “western propaganda”, and pissing off the state is a good way to have an accident.
*Man succumbs to radiation poisoning*
You Two: NNNSSSSSKKKGHHH HA HA HA!
The wife was an incredible woman, she stayed with them, taking care of the firefighters since none of the nurses would touch them. She brought them food, even though they could no longer digest food, even changed her husband's diapers , when he lost control of his bowls, near the end , she changed his diaper 5 times a night.the makeup is incredible and was actually scaled back, so as to not scare the audience, that's why they chose not to show the last scientists face, since it was so bad.
'Every time someone denies the truth, take a shot.' Girl, that's how you end up with liver failure. xD
The 3 guys in reality, their lights didn’t come back. . They did it in the pitch black.
'Oil Riggers right?'
wrong movie. That's Bruce Willis in Armageddon :P
AZ5 is the correspondant term that in Western Reactors is called the SCRAM button, what it does is release the control rod drive , and the control rod s fall to the bottom of the core, placing an absorbant material, in this case Boron, which readily absorbs nuetrons(western Reactors generally use Hafnium, which is better than boron for various reasons for that purpose), this stops the Reactor dead in its tracks, and from there on the main concern is Xenon and the decay heat of the reactor. Akimov and Totanov told Kyomuk that the Reactor exploded almost immediately after Akimov Scrammed the Reactor, which on the face of it is simply impossible, but I can't tell you why it happens without spoilers.
LOVE THE NEW HAIR!! WOW! 💙💜❤️
Thank you ~
7:19 lol "do you need to talk to me?!"
Wouldn’t mind mining their caves
13:04 "Then 👏then👏 strike."
The youth are the fucking future. 😂
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Love the video Imon Nation and Abby Nation stay motivated dream big
AZ-5 is the "emergency stop" button; it activates every safety feature in the core simultaneously as fast as possible, in fact it stops everything so completely that it makes the core go cold/die, which takes many days to reset and restart. Two witnesses are saying conclusively that the AZ-5 button was pressed - and then the reactor blew up. Everyone's confused because this makes no sense, it would be like setting the emergency brake on your car and then having the car accelerate violently. There are some hidden scientific details they've yet to uncover..
I still remember the accident. I was 10 years old and me & family saw the news on the television ( ca. 4-5 days after the accident....remember the Russian Union at that time didn´t want bad news about their country) . At this time the radioactive cloud was already above Europe. My parents told us that we were not aloud to go outside when its raining, play in the garden, eat fresh food from our garden...especially mushrooms or go in the woods. Some days/weeks/ months later we had mutated Flowers/dandelions in our garden. I was very afraid at this time....believe me. It´s a great miniseries - most of this is true! It´s hard but keep watching! Sorry for my english. Greetings from North Germany.
You girls are cool. Thx for making me smile
They didn't understand the concept of radiation, it was never an element that anybody encountered or understood before during that time. All they thought was that it's was like fire burns, that's why the wife didn't understand why she couldn't touch her husband. Because she thought he was only burned.
Love y'all!
I like how turned on you two are by the miners haha