What’s Happening to Ammo Prices?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025

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  • @FloridaPatriot
    @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +32

    If you not subscribed yet, please do so now. Appreciate you!

    • @philmullineaux5405
      @philmullineaux5405 6 месяцев назад +3

      During bush 2, I bought about 50k rounds. I never paid over 3 dollars for 9, 12ga, 223, 762.54, 762.39, anything else u can think of, etc. Unless I was buying target ammo for 22, I never spent over 1 dollar. I bought 2 first gen saigas in 223 and 762.39, for 250 each. U could buy ANY rifle, new out of the case ex military surplus, for 50 bucks. What Obama did to ammo in this country, is criminal. And because the cost of ammo went nuclear, the cheapest ammo now is basically 762.54 so to buy lots of it and range shoot, ur mosin rifle is now going to cost u 500 dollars. I doubt u can buy a new AK, for under 600.

    • @jeffnieradka677
      @jeffnieradka677 5 месяцев назад +3

      Be 4 Obama be came prez 22lr was 2.99 per 500

    • @frankedgar6694
      @frankedgar6694 5 месяцев назад

      Our store in Grapevine and Grand Prairie are well stocked. Prices are moderately high.

    • @kathrynleaser5093
      @kathrynleaser5093 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@jeffnieradka677 under his watch ( BO)he shut down all the lead producers here in the USA now lead has to be imported.

    • @dwaynecollins4974
      @dwaynecollins4974 4 месяца назад

      If Harris gets elected President, you can count on the price staying high and going higher.😮

  • @MojoMountainMan
    @MojoMountainMan 4 месяца назад +56

    I have a sign at my house. It says:
    "due to the high price of ammo, a warning shot will not be fired"

  • @jamesbasaldua100
    @jamesbasaldua100 6 месяцев назад +232

    They are still to high sir.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah BPS still has high prices. Hopefully that changes

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@jamesbasaldua100 Baring a miracle prices aren’t going to get better anytime soon.

    • @danswindowtinting2387
      @danswindowtinting2387 6 месяцев назад +5

      Prices will be going up even more, especially when federal sales company to Czech

    • @seraph1926
      @seraph1926 6 месяцев назад +10

      Golden days are over man. $10 boxes of 9mm, $7 boxes of 556. They're never going that low again

    • @cazzycardetailing6080
      @cazzycardetailing6080 5 месяцев назад +1

      Too*

  • @bidenisasnake9932
    @bidenisasnake9932 6 месяцев назад +120

    Ammo prices drove me away from shooting. Providing food and a roof for the family to sleep under Won that battle.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +16

      Yeah I hear ya bro. I haven’t been shooting like I used to either. Maybe 500 rounds every few months where as I used to shoot 500 rounds every other day pre-2019

    • @estradamurcielgo175
      @estradamurcielgo175 6 месяцев назад +2

      Same

    • @Loislikes
      @Loislikes 4 месяца назад +7

      And they have achieved their goal. They can't take your guns, so they will make it so having a gun is near pointless. That is, unless you make your own ammo.

    • @livedsemoc3632
      @livedsemoc3632 4 месяца назад

      ​@@FloridaPatriotAll this price gouging started with the Obama /Biden era's of running up the price of lead for radiation shielding.

    • @livedsemoc3632
      @livedsemoc3632 4 месяца назад +1

      All the price rising started during the Obama /Biden destruction era!

  • @dawsonschmidt3714
    @dawsonschmidt3714 6 месяцев назад +163

    Time to let ' em sit on the shelf. I have food and gas to buy.😮

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly 👍

    • @Vince0ffer
      @Vince0ffer 5 месяцев назад +8

      I’d cut all the streaming services before I skip a week of buying ammo.

  • @michaelpayne8102
    @michaelpayne8102 6 месяцев назад +90

    The store price is too high, I’ll shop online and find the better deals.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +2

      💯

    • @lifevlog6216
      @lifevlog6216 5 месяцев назад +6

      Ammoseek

    • @HOMELESSG0D
      @HOMELESSG0D 5 месяцев назад

      @@lifevlog6216 ammoseek sucks I find better deals looking myself

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 5 месяцев назад

      So you want 3 of the .22 for a pinny

    • @elcuh9281
      @elcuh9281 5 месяцев назад

      @@lifevlog6216they rip you off stop the cap

  • @russhayes4882
    @russhayes4882 6 месяцев назад +47

    Ammo prices are stupid everywhere and I don't know why price gouging at its best !

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      👍

    • @philmullineaux5405
      @philmullineaux5405 5 месяцев назад

      @@russhayes4882 u can guess. In one word, government, particularly Obama. He crippled how ammo and gun manufacturers can make money. Drive by the huge Remington factory in Arkansas, it almost looks like a ghost town. To stay afloat, they have to do this.

    • @INKEDCREATIONS
      @INKEDCREATIONS 5 месяцев назад

      Government regulations and having to fight lawsuits and paying lobbyists are causing these prices. It would be great if the Federal government would stop trying to attack our rights

    • @DennisDann
      @DennisDann 2 месяца назад

      ALL costs for goods and services have gone up!
      Government regulations on Primers alone have limited production. Primer manufacturers are building new facilities to manufacture where they can. Price gouging!??? Washington DC economics are what crushing us all. Wake up!!

  • @emacstac
    @emacstac 6 месяцев назад +54

    As someone who has been in the ammo industry for over a decade, there is so much that affect the price of ammo that most folks don't think about. That being said, the reason why you have larger packs that are more, is because they are newer production. The Manufacturer NOT the retailer has raised their price due to this being an election year in anticipation for the consumer runs on ammo as it gets closer.
    5:00 the reason why 22lr got so expensive is because Obama used his executive authority to hold up SHIPPING CONTAINERS full of it at ports, and didn't allow it to be distributed. This caused the domestic manufacturers to ramp up production, but supply could never meet demand. Most retailers that bought high, had to cost average their old stuff as their was no other option.
    Ammo prices also change with the cost of metals, powder, the availability to actually get the components. Until the importing of russian ammo comes back, the prices of the individual components go down - your freedom seeds really aren't going to be going down from here.
    13:00 You're correct - this will be the new norm until the above happens. Gun show vendors, the fella selling a box for $13, he is making $.50 - $1.00 per box at most unless he purchased many pallets of it.
    The other part of this is, you need to consider where in the US you are getting your ammo from as well. Prices in California will be higher than prices in say Nebraska

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for your comment. Appreciate you!

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@emacstac I bought 14 5,000 cases of PMC sidewinder 22lr during Obozo’s first term for under $110 per case shipped to my door. My 10/22 was extremely finicky on ammo in stock configuration and absolutely loved the PMC.

    • @emacstac
      @emacstac 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@lanejohnson7656 You were extremely lucky to get that much at all, let alone at that price.

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 6 месяцев назад

      @@emacstac Not really.. I bought it over a period of a month..

    • @arlissyoung8899
      @arlissyoung8899 6 месяцев назад

      As someone older and a reloader for well over 40 years one thing that proved to be true is the Gun / Ammo community is the biggest back stabbing, cut their own families throat community I have ever seen in all my life. There's proof of God's Word being true. For the LOVE of money is the root to all evil. There's nothing this community want to do to cut throats and stab people in the back for the love of money. I have seen one poor sap pay $140.00 dollars for a box of 45 ACP and 9mm. The Japper behind the counter told the poor sap it was supply and demand. As the poor sap crawled away bleeding from his rectum back to his car all I could do is think how bad this poor sap got raped. In this same store a worker told me they paid their distributors {Big Money} to keep them supplied. In other words the distributor, was getting Cash in the pocket to cut others off to keep them with Ammo at this price. This is only one of many stories of the back stabbing and throat cutting of this community. I seen $400.00 to 600.00 dollar handguns going for two times the price. Another store, I was told point blank, there was a line of people waiting for them to open. The worker went down and pulled every sticker off all the ARs they had. As the poor saps came running in and asked for prices the worker looked at the stickers and dubbled the price and sold them ALL. Then he told me, many of these guns will come back in 4 to 6 months because the people don't want or need them and they will buy them back for $200.00 400.00 dollars depending on the Rifle. This is the true reason for many of the prices people face, it's not that the prices are going up, only the LOVE of money. I have seen this happen many, many times over the years and knowing Gun Shop owners and the workers there's a great number of stories just like this that I can tell. Buy as you see fit and please, as for me they want get my hard earned money. There's nothing they have I can't live without.

  • @EC-mc7vg
    @EC-mc7vg 6 месяцев назад +51

    Bass Pro/Cabela's have ridiculously high ammo prices. Most big box stores have high ammo prices. I used to buy ammo on a regular basis from my local Cabela's here in Fort Worth, but it has been a long time since I have even been there since the ammo gouge started. I bought a bunch of ammo from Walmart when they couldn't gouge because they were considered a grocery store, but since then they started gouging like all the rest. There is ammo everywhere, but it seems most places got so used to gouging they don't want to stop. I only buy online now when there is a good sale or maybe free shipping on any of the cartridges I use. There are deals out there you just have to always be on the lookout and be ready to buy when they present themselves.

    • @DarknessNation
      @DarknessNation 6 месяцев назад +3

      you think that is bad..... here in california they put in another 11 percent sales tax.

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 6 месяцев назад

      @@EC-mc7vg 2017-2018 when Trump was running his big mouth about multiple infringements I was giggling as I tripped over cases of ammo on sale at Cabela’s in Wichita Kansas. I was buying 9mm, 5.56 and 308 at pre Obozo ammo shortage prices. It was like manufacturers and stores expected a run on ammo that never came because most people were to busy chanting “WINNING” like a pack of retarded chihuahuas on crack and ignoring Trump laying in bed with the likes of Pelosi and Feinstein..

    • @mikenstien1861
      @mikenstien1861 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, but Mom and Pop Shops are pretty much up there with the Big chains. However I recently bought some brass cased 7.69x39 at my LGS which bass pro didn't have. I'm more concerned about powder, primers, and projectiles!

    • @curtisduncan9292
      @curtisduncan9292 24 дня назад +1

      When Wal-Mart stopped selling pistol ammo that was the end of decent prices and all the big box stores went way up. I use Ammoseek and select free shipping to find the best prices. It usually requires bulk purchases but it is what it is until Trump is back in office and even then it will never go all the way back down from domestic manufacturers.

    • @curtisduncan9292
      @curtisduncan9292 24 дня назад

      @@DarknessNation That's what the voters keep choosing. Seems overly weird even for bloomin liberal iggits.

  • @dragonaut4208
    @dragonaut4208 6 месяцев назад +81

    The availability is there, but the quality control is way down.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +2

      QA down? Did something happen I didn’t hear of recently?

    • @VladGruetz2
      @VladGruetz2 6 месяцев назад +2

      Do tell...
      Haven't heard any issues but haven't been slinging new ammo in a long time... still using my old stuff... I mean by old, 15yrs old or older..

  • @garygarber9229
    @garygarber9229 6 месяцев назад +60

    Price increases like that are GOUGING!

    • @RocksNRuts4
      @RocksNRuts4 5 месяцев назад +1

      which our gov told us is illegal.....

  • @upholdthesecond92
    @upholdthesecond92 6 месяцев назад +37

    32 cents a round for 9mm is way high.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      Highway robbery 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @akbychoice
      @akbychoice 5 месяцев назад +1

      Depends what your life is worth.

    • @kathrynleaser5093
      @kathrynleaser5093 4 месяца назад

      ​@@akbychoiceright. !

    • @richardtillman7726
      @richardtillman7726 2 месяца назад

      That's for FMJ, the defensive rounds are much higher

    • @DennisDann
      @DennisDann 2 месяца назад

      yep! did you see the price of Gas!! If I'd just woke up from being asleep since 2015.... so if I was, I'd be broke(er) !! So Wake up America!! It's here we're broke...

  • @lacuzon39000
    @lacuzon39000 6 месяцев назад +45

    I stop shopping at bass pro shop when they told me at the cashier register I could not buy so many boxes of ammunition because I wasn’t a “ member “ .

  • @dustinpribble1546
    @dustinpribble1546 6 месяцев назад +44

    Ammo isnt back for long.... the govt just signed a contract with the largest nitro cellulose manufacturer in America to buy 95% of their production for every batch made from now until the Ukraine war

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +5

      😠

    • @ttgsushi5767
      @ttgsushi5767 6 месяцев назад

      Won’t affect us

    • @dustinpribble1546
      @dustinpribble1546 6 месяцев назад +13

      @ttgsushi5767 how does only having 5% availability of gun powder not impact u?

    • @ttgsushi5767
      @ttgsushi5767 6 месяцев назад

      @@dustinpribble1546 because it’s fake news. Keep living in fear

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 6 месяцев назад

      @@dustinpribble1546 This your first ammo shortage? Ever crossed your mind to plan ahead? Why didn’t you stockpile ammo in 2017-2018 when Trump was running his big mouth about multiple infringements when ammo was plentiful and even on sale? I didn’t even need any during that time but I was still tripping over cases of ammo on sale in the isles laughing because the cult was to busy chanting “WINNING”. It was like the manufactures and stores expected a run on ammo with all his infringements talk that never happened.. lol. I was buying 5.56 and 9mm for Obozo’s first term prices..

  • @lynnkramer1211
    @lynnkramer1211 6 месяцев назад +30

    I've found what I need online. I let the UPS guy bring it to me. I save wear and tear on my vehicles and I get the lowest prices. I don't fight the shopping cart commandos and I don't get distracted by the pretty cammo girls.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      😂

    • @terryparker1694
      @terryparker1694 6 месяцев назад +2

      Not for long. UPS is stopping delivery of ammunition except to ffl holders and background checks will be mandatory according to their website. All ammunition sales will be reported to local law enforcement as well.

    • @saltpro5603
      @saltpro5603 5 месяцев назад

      @@terryparker1694I didn't hear about that! Going to research now
      Edit; couldn't find anything about this online. Found old stuff from like '22 / '23 about private to private shipping ammo, but nothing about not shipping from online sales to user.
      Can you point me to where I can find that info please?

    • @MissingDeeds
      @MissingDeeds 4 месяца назад

      @@saltpro5603 you can still buy ammo online lol. im literally about to buy 1000rds of what i need.

  • @Ravespillo
    @Ravespillo 6 месяцев назад +16

    Thanks for breaking it down to the per round price, saves me a lot of pausing calculating and it's a more interesting price to track over time.

  • @thomasperina2990
    @thomasperina2990 6 месяцев назад +18

    Hello Fellow Patriots and Friends: Andre, thank you for taking the time + travel take this video & demonstrate that ammo prices in your area. IMHO Andre Florida is beginning to catch up to the NE. As I've stated in our personal text messages + on your channel the only thing that is going down up here in the NE is our standard of living. Many years ago I was lucky enough to purchase 308 HP, 175 grain sniper rounds for $ 1.00 a round. I was also able to aquire a few cases of M 855 green tip & a few rounds of 223 & 556. A 9MM. 147 grain HP HYDROSHOCK wasn't that bad around $ .26 a round & now in dome places up here over $ 2.00 a round. A friend up here has a 380 & you really must settle for what you can get at over $ 2.00 a round. As we have spoken about all of these out of sight prices are this administration's moto of suck it up buttercup me & my family are doing fine = ASSHOLE!!! ,( FJB ) !!! Andre, thanks again, stay safe, & God Bless. TMP from N.J. 😊

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +5

      Yes sir. These prices are insane. What’s even crazier is that the guy shows prices are now cheaper than retail stores. It’s like we’re living in the twilight zone. Well then again, it is Biden’s economy 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😂

  • @charleslyon1179
    @charleslyon1179 6 месяцев назад +26

    Don't buy local, buy bulk. Much cheaper to buy online. A lot of places have free shipping if you look for them.

    • @samgarcia8267
      @samgarcia8267 6 месяцев назад +2

      Where at? Drop a link

    • @terryparker1694
      @terryparker1694 6 месяцев назад

      Not for long.

    • @lifevlog6216
      @lifevlog6216 5 месяцев назад

      @@samgarcia8267use ammoseek bro. I filter by caliber, free shipping, and total cost. You can compare different sites all at once. Good luck!

    • @vwnut-uc1gw
      @vwnut-uc1gw 5 месяцев назад

      @@samgarcia8267SG ammo has free shipping with $200 purchase. Helps offset ammo prices a little.

    • @InMotion247
      @InMotion247 5 месяцев назад

      Where at?

  • @mrmilo1971
    @mrmilo1971 6 месяцев назад +22

    I’ve been getting my ammo online at TargetSportsUSA for about 3 years now. Can barely remember the last time I bought any off the shelf. Thanks for the content FP 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      MrMilo 💪🏼 appreciate ya bro. And yes I agree anout targetsportsusa. Sometimes they have good deals.

    • @CMDR_Shokwave
      @CMDR_Shokwave 6 месяцев назад +4

      I get all my ammo there, as well. Pay for the annual membership and prices crush any store any time, and shipping is included in the membership cost - cases and boxes. Buy a few cases and get that money back, no problem.

    • @mrmilo1971
      @mrmilo1971 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CMDR_Shokwave EXACTLY !!!!!

    • @mikenstien1861
      @mikenstien1861 6 месяцев назад

      I still want to patronize my LGS, because if you need someone freedom seeds "Yesterday", your LGS will be where you find it...

    • @CMDR_Shokwave
      @CMDR_Shokwave 6 месяцев назад

      @mikenstien1861 I agree it is good to shop local, but for ammo, I make sure to plan well ahead. LGS gets my range time and random shit that is not too overpriced, also transfers from online gun shopping - because CZ.

  • @seniorp9444
    @seniorp9444 6 месяцев назад +21

    It’s still hard to find 410 anywhere and if you do find any prices are double or triple what it was 5 years ago.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      💯

    • @az0970449
      @az0970449 5 месяцев назад

      found a few in maine 25 $ a box crazy

    • @henryrifleownerpa1813
      @henryrifleownerpa1813 5 месяцев назад +1

      12.67 @walmart for .410 hard to believe. Bensalem Pa

    • @az0970449
      @az0970449 5 месяцев назад

      @@henryrifleownerpa1813 thanks i have plenty that was at my local store also i wouldnt go to walmart if you paid me lol white trash big time !!

    • @grantroper2511
      @grantroper2511 4 месяца назад

      The tungsten rounds were $65-$75 a yr or 2 ago, and thats only either 5 or 10 rounds! I don't have a .410, but distinctly remember talking to another gent' in the store about it. Absolutely insane.

  • @floridagunrat1625
    @floridagunrat1625 6 месяцев назад +49

    Before Obama got elected, I was buying the federal 550 ct. Boxes for $8.96 ea. And before covid, I was buying the Remington bucket of bullets for $64.00 ea. We all remember 9mm at $7.99 a box, too! A friend of mine who owns a reloading/bullet casting business just told me that he is paying $4000.00 per ton for lead. Metal prices have skyrocketed since the Obama years, and of course dont forget the issues with primer availability. I havent bought centerfire rifle ammo in years, as I reload my own. The price of bullets has gone from $7. - $8.00 a box to around $30.00/box. Powder was in the $20./pound range and now is around $60./pound. When I was young, .45 acp, 30-06, and .308 were the most common rounds, with lots of people shooting other big bores like 41 mag, 44mag, and 45-70. I saw 41mag lead reloads at the last gunshow selling for over $40./50. Its no wonder why 40 S&W and larger, heavy bullet rounds are losing favor. Who can afford to spend a Saturday at the range shooting several hundred rounds?
    It sure does take a lot of fun out of our recreational shooting and hamper training.

    • @mattw3296
      @mattw3296 6 месяцев назад

      Our government is spending billions of dollars that it doesn't have. Actually nobody has that money because it doesn't exist - or it didn't exist until they created it.
      The total number of dollars that exists has doubled since 2018 & that's the real cause of inflation. The prices of everything will continue to go up until our government stops spending money that doesn't exist.

    • @zachdevine871
      @zachdevine871 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yep, getting super expensive. Especially for rifle rounds. You can easily shoot 2-300$ worth of 5.56 in a range trip.

    • @therifleman5611
      @therifleman5611 6 месяцев назад +12

      And we all know who to blame for these high prices. Let's go Brandon

    • @scottscheuerman8714
      @scottscheuerman8714 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t know why people keep voting in the democrats party they are communists

    • @donaldcarey114
      @donaldcarey114 6 месяцев назад

      @@therifleman5611 He's just a puppet - Obama, Soros & Co. are his Masters.

  • @samcolt1079
    @samcolt1079 6 месяцев назад +21

    IF YOU WERE SMART YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMMING. MOST DID.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      💯

    • @bdkj3e
      @bdkj3e 6 месяцев назад +9

      Just because I saw it coming doesn't mean I was able to afford to stockpile any.

    • @GoldenGun1994
      @GoldenGun1994 5 месяцев назад +4

      I saw it coming but didn't have the money to do anything about it.

    • @mikephalp7364
      @mikephalp7364 4 месяца назад

      But its been comming for a long time! Way before covid!

    • @curtisduncan9292
      @curtisduncan9292 24 дня назад

      There are no liberal states, only liberal cities and even though I try to keep up and pay attention that attentiveness doesn't apply to the average voter these days. After everything has sky-rocketed these past four years I hope that attitude changes.

  • @AlexWilliamsIII
    @AlexWilliamsIII 6 месяцев назад +14

    Ammo is sort of back and at better than C19 prices, but many calibers are still hard to find at any price. In Jan 2020 a local store was selling 1000 9mm bulk pack for about $160-$170. So while . 30 is better than it has been, it's still twice 2019 prices.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +2

      Sounds about right. Do you think this is the new normal now?

  • @h2o100c
    @h2o100c 6 месяцев назад +13

    Weird that ammo is 40% higher than anywhere online with free shipping

  • @BtRct
    @BtRct 6 месяцев назад +8

    Just like car prices, ammo prices are set by demand. If they sit on shelves like cars sit on lots, they are forced to eventually lower their prices to sell them. I don’t plink as much as I used to.

  • @behonestwitheverythingande6833
    @behonestwitheverythingande6833 15 дней назад +1

    9mm was 17 to 25 cents in 2019 now 28 cents and up! .223 and 556 were 20 cents a round and bought gas for $1.90 per gallon in 2019! Careful how you Vote! It matters!

  • @dp3797
    @dp3797 6 месяцев назад +8

    I work at a farm store in Central Nevada, our 9 mm 115 grain and 124 grain is $14.99 regular price for 50 rounds. When we have sales, it’s usually $12.49 to $12.99 for 50 rounds. And we have sales pretty regular. And as of right now we have great supply of ammo.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 месяцев назад

      Would that be Farm & Fleet or Runnings..??

    • @dp3797
      @dp3797 6 месяцев назад

      @@LuvBorderCollies we sell farm stuff, like hay and animal food for the most part. And then we have a little bit of other things.

    • @thomasarnold58387
      @thomasarnold58387 4 месяца назад

      South Tennessee and North Alabama on par with that. 5.56 xtac is
      $ 12-14

  • @projectturbocoupe4897
    @projectturbocoupe4897 6 месяцев назад +13

    It wasn’t all that long ago that 525 round boxes of 22 LR were $13.49.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      👍

    • @BtRct
      @BtRct 6 месяцев назад +7

      I remember when it was $5 a box for 500 rounds and I’m only 36.

    • @ericbunch7801
      @ericbunch7801 6 месяцев назад +4

      I haven't purchased 22 LR this century lol
      last time I bought it it was 5.99 for a brick of 500
      y2k made alot stock up ion ammo in 1999

  • @HockeyVictory66
    @HockeyVictory66 5 месяцев назад +4

    I made a fortune selling surplus ammo that I bought over a decade ago. I only sold it to friends and their friends. My price was still less than store prices. I didn’t charge tax either.

  • @traillesstravelled7901
    @traillesstravelled7901 5 месяцев назад +5

    The high prices drove me to reloading.
    But all those prices have gone up as well.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад +1

      These prices are sky high that’s for sure

  • @galenyoung7917
    @galenyoung7917 6 месяцев назад +6

    With the value of the dollar going down the drain things will be getting a lot worse

  • @jmf1976jmf
    @jmf1976jmf 6 месяцев назад +9

    I do not think I have ever bought ammo at Cabela's or Bass pro shops in my life, this reminds me why?

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +2

      💯

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 месяцев назад

      I only bought a couple boxs of 223 steel case FMJ since they were dirt cheap. BUT red lights flashed when I couldn't find where it was made. Still haven't shot and glad because of so many complaints. Same with the Turk ammo in white boxes at Walmart not that long ago. They were reputed even worse and Walmart removed them quickly.

  • @girardorlandi2472
    @girardorlandi2472 6 месяцев назад +14

    Blazer 124 grain at Rural King until July 4 11.99/box of 50 no limit!

  • @J_Bwn
    @J_Bwn 6 месяцев назад +7

    I’ll just keep sitting on what I’ve got. I feel bad for anyone buying ammo these days

  • @johnlangford3905
    @johnlangford3905 4 месяца назад +3

    5.56 once fired GI brass used to be $22/thousand(sometimes $16/thousand). 500 bullets for same $17/500. Primers were 6/10 cent each.
    Before Covid, I regularly bought 9mm Remington target ammo for $8.00 box at Walmart.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  4 месяца назад +1

      When Walmart stopped selling 9mm, they marked it down on clearance price. Something like $60/500. Let’s just say I bought enough to last a long time 👍

    • @DennisDann
      @DennisDann 2 месяца назад

      Yup!

  • @mdell4959
    @mdell4959 6 месяцев назад +4

    SG ammo has 1000 rounds of 9mm for $229 free shipping. Great customer service

  • @anthonyt4981
    @anthonyt4981 5 месяцев назад +5

    we know who to thank for inflation. Supply wasn’t the biggest issue recently. mostly just economy bleeding into the cost of products

  • @AstanaxKnight
    @AstanaxKnight 5 месяцев назад +4

    I haven't bought any factory ammo since the primers came back and I started reloading. Even the 45 Long Colt that I shoot is cheaper reloading than buying a box of 50 for $60-$70.

  • @papalou190
    @papalou190 5 месяцев назад +6

    I would say start hand loading. But the components for reloading pricey. But I still do it because it’s my alone time therapy 😂

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      😂

    • @davidgardner863
      @davidgardner863 5 месяцев назад

      Do you use jacketed bullets? I cast my own lead bullets. You don’t need expensive jacketed bullets to punch holes in paper if you’re target shooting.

  • @JettBlast
    @JettBlast 6 месяцев назад +4

    Buying online is cheaper by shopping around, which is the best way I have noticed...

  • @Mike-qo8nm
    @Mike-qo8nm 4 дня назад +1

    BUY NOW AND KEEP BUYING. There all future problems solved

  • @mattw3296
    @mattw3296 6 месяцев назад +8

    This is not the new normal, these prices are extremely low right now & they will never be lower.
    Cars that cost $30k in 2019, now cost $70k. Houses that cost $150k in 2019, now cost $270k. There are twice as many total dollars now than there were in 2019, so each dollar is worth less.
    Wages have not kept up with inflation, so we are all poorer now.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      👍

    • @bdkj3e
      @bdkj3e 6 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for getting it, soooooo many people don't understand inflation and end up blaming the companies for things the gov caused.

  • @BeachVision
    @BeachVision 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bro, are you in melbourne? Looks alot like the BPS in Palm Bay.

  • @ryanfoxon9115
    @ryanfoxon9115 6 месяцев назад +7

    Yeah I have to say I want to buy more ammo, but the prices are too high.
    I remember getting boxes of .223 on sale for 5.99 (at Dicks, I think they were wanting to sell all thier ammo becuase of the anti gun ceo at the time.. 2018 I think?)
    Now it’s close to $0.70 a round? Which is more than double than the $0.30 - 0.35 it was back then. I’m poor. Everything is too expensive. I can’t afford a home and can barely afford rent. I wish I could have prepared more but it is what it is.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I hear you bro. Everything is so damn expensive nowadays

  • @johnlangford3905
    @johnlangford3905 4 месяца назад +2

    I have probably read thousands of articles in gun and sporting magazines but never read one about the markup on ammo. I suppose I never will.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  4 месяца назад

      Yeah, don’t hold your breath either. You’ll probably never will 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @coloradoguns
    @coloradoguns 6 месяцев назад +5

    Sportsman warehouse has a sale on ammo. Federal 22lr 36 GR CPHP 450 bottles for $29.99 and 325 packs for $21.99
    Those other prices were definetly high , but what isn’t now and days 😅

  • @Puma1Sunfire1
    @Puma1Sunfire1 6 месяцев назад +2

    I keep getting reminded why I buy bulk and wait for ammo sales of AAC

  • @Blueknight1960
    @Blueknight1960 6 месяцев назад +4

    If you're looking for cheaper ammo prices, bass pro shops and the like are not the place to go.

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 6 месяцев назад +3

    .22lr was about $.05/ round for decent stuff before the plandemic. Here in SE NC, availability and pricing aren't that great. It's better than it was at the worst time, but nowhere near what it was before COVID. It's been even worse with reloading components.

  • @Dslats
    @Dslats 6 месяцев назад +12

    THEY ARE PRICE GOUGING STILL.

    • @estradamurcielgo175
      @estradamurcielgo175 6 месяцев назад

      The govt just signed a contract with the largest nitro cellulose manufacturer in America to buy 95% of their production for every batch made from now until the Ukraine war

  • @texasrider5621
    @texasrider5621 6 месяцев назад +3

    Price is still too high just before Covid hit. I paid $189 for 1000 rounds of full metal jacket 9 mm.

  • @Albuqrazy
    @Albuqrazy 4 месяца назад

    What’s .300 blackout going for down there in Florida ? We’re at $32 super sonics & I seen 39.99 for subsonic both at 20 rounds per box here in New Mexico.

  • @b.p.stimemachines2327
    @b.p.stimemachines2327 6 месяцев назад +6

    Isn’t it sad that we live in a world where the price of 22 long rifle and birdshot costs it used to not matter just go pick some up and go to the woods and have some fun now you have to price everything out

  • @Jrockz35
    @Jrockz35 2 месяца назад

    Im in central Texas and here like everywhere else price gouging is rampant. It looks like ammo here is about the same prices you were showing there.

  • @32plug
    @32plug 6 месяцев назад +3

    I compared your prices to our prices in Ohio. Our local outdoor shop, Vance’s Outdoors comparably averages out to 2 dollars less. Your right! Do your research

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes sir. Could save yourself a nice little fortune by doing a little bit of research 👍

  • @gregl2459
    @gregl2459 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’m in Canada Alberta to be exact. We are the Texas of the north and here ammunition is very expensive and still in short supply also often we have to buy sub prime ammunition from Yugoslavia or other foreign makers to get any kind of deal. Large bore ammunition like300WM costs 7$ a shot or 338LM you’re going to pay 10$ a shot for Hornady 338LM. 45-70 cost 80$ a box.

  • @marktaylor5565
    @marktaylor5565 6 месяцев назад +7

    Let it sit on the shelf till it rots if you have it buy it but it’s way to high

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      💯

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 месяцев назад

      Ammo has a very long shelf life. If the seller does not need the cash flow, they can sit for years. Seen it in person in LGS with a bunch of Weatherby ammo. Every time the retail price went up the owner would add a new price sticker. The boxes were towards the front door on the north side, so they were not bleached by the sun. But they were very bleached, it was so obvious. Who knows how old they were? I never asked him and he's passed now.

  • @jasonbrodess5242
    @jasonbrodess5242 6 месяцев назад +2

    About 25-30 years ago, I remember 22lr being around $8 -$15 per 500 rnd. brick, depending on the brand, and where you bought it. Before Covid, and the ammo shortage, around $20 ish. Been around $40 ish around here, up until about a year ago, when prices started to come down a little bit, to around $30, or so. Most 9mm runs between $12 and 18 in this area, usually $15-16, though. Its usually cheaper to buy it in online nowadays, if you can get free shipping.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah online is the place to go nowadays. And some of the gun shows but it’s really hit and miss though.

  • @b.p.stimemachines2327
    @b.p.stimemachines2327 6 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like they lowered the prices a little bit to a pieces, but they knew that they already had us at higher prices so they just increased production through us a tiny bone and they’re still cashing it on us

  • @russgravel6428
    @russgravel6428 4 месяца назад +1

    2:23 the box of 200 rds is more because most places have quantity limits. So you can buy 4 boxes of 100 or 4 boxes of 200.

  • @chasenk00019
    @chasenk00019 6 месяцев назад +3

    As far as box stores go Academy, and local mom and pops, everyone else is super price gouging in Louisiana.

  • @brucegardner7630
    @brucegardner7630 5 месяцев назад +1

    The prices of ammo at BASS PRO SHOP IN BALTIMORE MD are pretty much the same as Florida, but Bass Pro Shop is still price gouging. I try to find any discounts that I can. And also, your right about the 5.56 ammunition used to be $8.99 per 20 up here in Baltimore MD

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      I think they bought ammo at a contract price and that’s what they’re selling it at now. Because during the first year of the plandemic, ammo everywhere is skyrocketing but BPS and Academy prices were staying the same for a few months. Then it started to creep up. Now everyone’s prices are coming down but their prices are still high. That’s what makes me wonder if they bought this batch of ammo at a high price therefore it has to be sold at a high price 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @eddiespaghetti54321
    @eddiespaghetti54321 5 месяцев назад +3

    Winchester white box has no business being that fucking expensive. Winchester is easily the worst ammo brand I’ve ever bought from even their more expensive defensive ammo always has some sort of issue like case deformities and improperly seated bullets.

  • @crushthequarter6863
    @crushthequarter6863 6 месяцев назад +2

    In 2018 - 9mm was about 10.99 per 50 and 22LR was 21.99 for 500 rds in my area.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      It was a little bit cheaper than that here in fl

  • @timpowell1463
    @timpowell1463 6 месяцев назад +3

    Twice the price it used to be.

  • @rodroller3328
    @rodroller3328 5 месяцев назад +1

    Buying ammo at BassPro is like buying groceries at Target. It's not going to be discount prices. I work for a distributor and ammo is easier to get but prices definitely haven't come down. And we were warned months ago by the mfgs of the coming shortage this fall. If you are waiting to buy thinking the prices are EVER going to come down you are going be disappointed.
    On a related note, the sales of both guns and ammo are WAY down this year. With the election coming this November you know there is going to be some event that stirs up trouble. If the election goes blue you can expect more attacks on the 2A so it isn't a bad idea to stock up now while you can still get it.

  • @JoeSmith-fu9yx
    @JoeSmith-fu9yx 6 месяцев назад +4

    Those guys are gouging, I just check a few prices against targetsports and even if you’re not a member and have to pay shipping they are still on average 15% cheaper shipped. That 45 was nearly double 😂

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      🤯

    • @estradamurcielgo175
      @estradamurcielgo175 6 месяцев назад

      The govt just signed a contract with the largest nitro cellulose manufacturer in America to buy 95% of their production for every batch made from now until the Ukraine war

    • @JoeSmith-fu9yx
      @JoeSmith-fu9yx 6 месяцев назад

      @@estradamurcielgo175 that doesn’t explain the current price situation though, this just means it’s possibly going to get worse. I love looking at my inventory knowing I can withstand these prices for at least a year maybe more.

  • @jayztoob
    @jayztoob 6 месяцев назад +1

    Prices up 50% in four years is what I expected. However, I don't think I've ever bought ammo at BPS because they charge way too much. WAY too much! Another thing, I don't know anyone who buys Federal, for any price, because of the complete lack of quality control. There are plenty of American-owned ammo manufacturers out there.
    Thanks for this great report.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the comment. Much appreciated 👍

  • @JeremyTowler
    @JeremyTowler 6 месяцев назад +3

    Freedom Munitions, You will get the best price! These are way high

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      💯

    • @bradscott2283
      @bradscott2283 3 месяца назад

      I bought a handfull of ammo in various calibers .. 2ond run brass from them and havent had a problem yet. It's not loaded hot but it's been safe and dependable so far. What's your experience with them?

  • @kaelinfisher6813
    @kaelinfisher6813 7 дней назад +1

    Couple months ago i got 1000 rounds of 9mm for $270 at my local shop and i checked online which is almost exactly the same. From Arizona

  • @toastedfish996
    @toastedfish996 6 месяцев назад +3

    Just don’t go to bass pro for ammo they suck, there are still amazing prices all around where a live and I am from CT of all places. I pay 37¢ for 7.62x39 .50¢ for .556 and $1 for M2 ball

  • @skim2958
    @skim2958 6 месяцев назад +2

    Those prices are a rip-off. You can get Federal 22lr 325 rounds for $17 right now online.

  • @kendurden7496
    @kendurden7496 6 месяцев назад +6

    Prices are still high. The green tip 5.56 is on sale for $11.99 now.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I agree. These prices are steep.

  • @brianholthouse1426
    @brianholthouse1426 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ammo is back ? Do they have any 32 special, 250 savage. 264 win ,32 H&R ?

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Didn’t look for those calibers but I will now 👍

    • @brianholthouse1426
      @brianholthouse1426 5 месяцев назад

      @@FloridaPatriot in my area shelves are full on common caliber ammo, but the not so common calibers are still hard to find.

  • @dann7585
    @dann7585 6 месяцев назад +3

    1st your shopping at the most expensive place to get ammo, 2nd some ammo is very dirty and the cheaper price isn't worth it

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 месяцев назад

      Like Herters brand or the Turk stuff Walmart sold for a while.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      You’re right 👍

  • @minerblue9641
    @minerblue9641 2 месяца назад

    Why did you go to a Bass Pro Shops store. Their prices ran me away a long time ago.

  • @stedyone1090
    @stedyone1090 6 месяцев назад +4

    Too high😮

  • @DreDay13
    @DreDay13 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you FP for these videos

  • @douglasscovil3447
    @douglasscovil3447 6 месяцев назад +2

    if Trump get elected president, i think the price of ammo will fall significantly.

  • @Thomk121
    @Thomk121 5 месяцев назад +1

    I dont understand why people buy ammo from store chains like this. Its crazy, you can go online and order in bulk for so much cheaper.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Uneducated. Many people believe you can’t anything in the mail. Ammo or guns. They’re just uneducated

  • @MichaelWood-yv4hq
    @MichaelWood-yv4hq 6 месяцев назад +4

    I remember paying about $12 for a box of 500 .22
    I remember (going way back) buying 223 reloads at the local shop 100 rds for $20.....yep $20

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      👍

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 6 месяцев назад +2

      Okay, you want to go way back? I bought my first AR-15 in 1982. It was a Colt sp1 which I got second hand for $250 with a bunch of extra magazines, a sling, a scope, and a can full of ammo. At the local gun shop I was buying 5.56 Winchester white box for $2 per 20 rounds!

    • @bobmiley9587
      @bobmiley9587 6 месяцев назад +1

      When I was growing up in the early to mid 60s, remember buying box 22lr for around .40 to 45 cents a box

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MichaelWood-yv4hq Yup, I also remember that $20.00 was a lot of money back then!

  • @dennisholloway9086
    @dennisholloway9086 5 месяцев назад +1

    I remember a box of 525 rds of Remington .22 being $19.99 and a "Bucket of Bullets" (1400 rds) being $69.99 before covid.

  • @johnnyringo765
    @johnnyringo765 6 месяцев назад +3

    You forgot shotgun ammo.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +4

      Ugh! I’ll hit it next time. And there was a lot of SG ammo too 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @YankeeWoodcraft
    @YankeeWoodcraft 5 месяцев назад +1

    New York is full of ammo.
    Prices are down 25% from COVID-era prices.
    A box of Core-Lokt .308 in NY is $26.

  • @GlorytoGod549
    @GlorytoGod549 6 месяцев назад +2

    762x39 went up and stayed up, but hopefully more manufacturers will get into that market and keep the prices from getting worse, or maybe even go down a little bit.

  • @johnschoonmaker1840
    @johnschoonmaker1840 6 месяцев назад

    How many more reasons do you need before you start loading your own?

  • @Postman_
    @Postman_ 4 месяца назад +1

    I like to believe that we, the consumer, also played a part in higher prices. During the shortage, people were buying what they could find on the shelf’s the same day the ammo was put onto the shelf’s and reselling on Marketplace and/or Craigslist for 3-4 times what they payed and many folks were paying the ridiculous markup and I believe the manufacturers caught on and raised their prices Not including the rising cost of copper, lead, brass, and whatever goes into making a live round.

  • @WheelgunsOnWheels
    @WheelgunsOnWheels 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good to see ammo on shelves again and halfway decent pricing. Since you skipped .38 special I can report it running between 18 and 24 bucks per box of 50 which is very close to pre pandemic prices.

  • @JohnCalistro
    @JohnCalistro 5 месяцев назад +1

    I started comparing prices with what we have here in Brazil. Keep in mind there are various difficulties and regulations for purchasing ammunition here.
    - 9mm FMJ 115GR 50 rounds
    - US: $15.99
    - BR: $66.71
    - .380 FMJ 95GR 50 rounds
    - US: $23.99
    - BR: $72.76
    - 22LR 36GR 525 rounds
    - US: $39.99
    - BR: $140.19
    - 40 S&W 165 GR
    - US: $117.99 for 350 rounds
    - BR: $87.17 for 50 rounds
    I got tired and too sad to continue comparing...

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  4 месяца назад +1

      😮

    • @JohnCalistro
      @JohnCalistro 4 месяца назад

      @@FloridaPatriot You don't imagine how hard it is over here to have a gun, but we will never surrender.

    • @bradscott2283
      @bradscott2283 3 месяца назад

      Is that US dollar prices for Brazil?

    • @JohnCalistro
      @JohnCalistro 3 месяца назад

      @@bradscott2283 Yes, it is dollar. :(

  • @charokimble1728
    @charokimble1728 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ammo has become garbage for a ridiculous price. The only way to stop that is Quit buying it!

  • @markwhite6782
    @markwhite6782 6 месяцев назад +2

    After hearing about 1) Primer shortages 2) Powder shortages 3) Copper shortages 4) Lead shortages and 5) Brass shortages you kind of get the picture someone's feeding you a line of BS to get those prices up. Hey, there hasn't been an ammo box shortage yet.....

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад

      👍

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 месяцев назад

      Its a problem when you have a global supply network. One specific chemical for primer compound screws up the production of every cartridge. With WW2 on the horizon that'll be the least of your worries.

  • @SP-gz5jx
    @SP-gz5jx 5 месяцев назад +1

    Due to the price gouging that occurred, I don’t target shoot or sight my gun in unless absolutely necessary. I no longer use as much ammo and don’t plan on doing so. In fact, I may stop hunting altogether due to the crazy ammo prices. Hunting is a luxury, not a necessity and to cut back on the high food and utilities costs my hunting luxury is curtailed a LOT.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Many of us are in the same boat as you 👍

  • @RodRaczkowski
    @RodRaczkowski Месяц назад +2

    In 1950s A box of 22 long rifle was 50 cents.llllllllll

    • @RodRaczkowski
      @RodRaczkowski Месяц назад

      Walmart and Rural King about the best place to acquire AMMO.llllllllllll

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  Месяц назад

      🤯

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 6 месяцев назад +2

    In South Africa we pay about 10 to 20 dollars more for the same ammo

  • @minerblue9641
    @minerblue9641 2 месяца назад

    Shopping on the internet is way cheaper sometimes than the stores that want to charge like they are gold plated bullets.

  • @bestfacechecklol
    @bestfacechecklol 2 месяца назад +1

    thumbs up for the overuse of "freedom seeds". I use it all the time, its my favorite term.

  • @kevinramsey3490
    @kevinramsey3490 6 месяцев назад +2

    Our pistol ammo is quite a bit cheaper here (Ky). I bought a lot of 9mm HST 124 gr. +p for $32.99/50 and 45acp 230 gr +p HST for $36.99. I bought a few boxes of.40 165 gr HST for $36.99 too. Our rifle ammo is crazy too.

  • @VolksStokes
    @VolksStokes 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lol, IKR the ammo pricing strategy never made sense... buy 200 rounds for $65 or buy 100 rounds two boxes for $60

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  5 месяцев назад

      Wonder if anybody has ever fallen for these price scams? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @VolksStokes
      @VolksStokes 5 месяцев назад

      @@FloridaPatriot when i had first realized that.. i used to wonder if the grains quantity is different hence higher price or the material change... but naah

  • @alexllc2958
    @alexllc2958 4 месяца назад +2

    I can wait 4 more years till prices become real ....

  • @michaelphipps4835
    @michaelphipps4835 6 месяцев назад +2

    Buying “online “ is killing the shops ammo business.

    • @FloridaPatriot
      @FloridaPatriot  6 месяцев назад +1

      Good 💯

    • @bradscott2283
      @bradscott2283 3 месяца назад +1

      Most of the local shops I know buy online in bulk themselves then just re-sell it at a small markup