Right? This made me laugh, though. 😂 I think it was just a matter of catching Henry on a 'good day', if there was such a thing. Plus in Margaret's case, Henry really wanted her son Reginald, but couldn't get at him. In Agnes' case, he had his pound of flesh by executing Katherine Howard and Jane Boleyn.
You're welcome! Thank you for being here and enjoying the channel. 😊 I do throw the odd man in here and there, but honestly, there isn't nearly enough on the women alongside them.
It is beginning to seem to me that the moral of most of these stories is that one should be wary of greed and be vigilant (if not afraid) of charismatic and powerful men and the women who chase them, for neither will do one much good, in the long run, especially if you too are a woman. Fascinating as always, thank you.
There certainly is a pattern to human behaviour here, isn't there? 😂Certainly now I think we're coming to embrace the understanding of 'red flags', but of course at the time (and for centuries afterwards) a lot of those traits were confused with romantic notions.
For the question (I did ask it last week but the next day so I don’t think you saw it), if you could put two historical figures in a locked room together, who would they be and why? Tbh idk who I’d put in there, but I think it’d be for somewhat comedic motives- imagine Charles II and Henry VI in the same room, for example😭
I'm so sorry if I missed it! It's the summer holidays here, so I'm juggling work while watching my little boy, and so I'm not able to check my comments as often. Apologies! But I've caught it this time. 😂 Ooh, it would definitely have to be for comedic motives. No question. The idea of Charles II and Henry VI is hilarious; they would start out all polite and regal, and then Charles would crack a sexual innuendo and Henry would just get triggered. Eventually Henry would try to give him a lecture, but halfway through falls into a catatonic state.😂😂😂 I think I'd choose...Henry VIII and Sigmund Freud, to try and work through the king's several problems. I reckon that would be pretty good. Either all of Henry's problems and trauma are solved, or Freud comes out a nervous wreck. Either way, I would pay good money to see that.
This is a great video. I know some about Henry VIII and his six wives but learning about their families is fascinating. As colorful of a person as she was, I'm surprised there hasn't been a biopic about her. Well not totally surprised given sexism.
Honestly, with the speed with which they married after Elizabeth's death, I think there at the least there must have been an emotional affair and attraction going on.
8:06 Henry and Anne married secretly because Anne WAS pregnant as she was getting older so she got pregnant so Henry was forced to marry her to make his heir legitimate, getting rid of his hesitancy. 8:26 Henry and Anne married publicly on the 25th of January 1533, and their marriage was annulled in May. It wasn’t a few days difference.
Good title hehe- Idk her side of the story- yet👀- but I can’t but blame her for her lack of supervision. She did have a ton of wards, and at an old age too, but if she couldn’t take proper care of all of them, then maybe shouldn’t have taken them on🥲
Hi, awesome live history video. I enjoyed it. How are you doing? How is the weather where you are? I'm doing well. and so is my cat Benjamin. He'll be eight years old next month. We have a heatwave in Ontario, Canada . In the next video in the future could you do Anne Seymour. She was the wife of Edward Seymour and sister in law to Henry, the eighth third wife, Queen Jane Seymour. In the 16th century . Have a great day. See you next video 😊
Hi Michelle! I'm doing okay, just trying to get through the summer holidays while my little boy is off school, haha! We've finally got the same weather, it's super hot here (for us), and sunny. And I'm glad Benjamin and you are doing well too! Poor Mallard probably wishes I would shave all of her fur off, she's too hot and keeps snoozing. I will definitely add Anne Seymour to my list, thank you for another great suggestion. 😊
With the exemption of Anne Dacre Howard, I always had a feeling that these Howard wives weren't very motherly or, like Elisabeth Stafford Howard, were rejected even by their own children. Maybe it was due to children dying young (so no point to get attached) or them being hosted in other noble families or that their eduçation was often delegated to tutors or governesses, I think these women themselves didn't receive many attention from their parents.
Another great video and a very interesting women. I did not know that she was a lady in waiting. Could you please consider doing a shortish video naming each lady in waiting under henrys 6 wifes? You dont have to go into their life history,but maybe along the lines of their name, family connection and where they were from for example England,maybe a city or Spanish and how long they were they were a lady in waiting?.. something along those lines please.
Knowing Catherine's rampant deviations Agnes should have quickly married her off. Lots of children and wards to look after Agnes was probably comfortable that they were taken care of and more interested and busy with other affairs.
It's a good question! I can't answer so much for nowadays, but certainly in the 16th century, yes and no. 😅 A lady-in-waiting would be expected to live with the household as she had to help with day-to-day duties, but she would have periods where she returned home for giving birth, for example. Their husbands would also be at court in attendance, so there would have been either (depending on the country and time) apartments at the royal residences, or their own properties close to court. The nature of a lady-in-waiting developed over time as well to include a more political role (albeit one that was less obvious than a man's political role), so there were also times she might be trusted with carrying a message internationally, and this would also create a short time away from her household.
I think she just didn't take anything seriously, and that rubbed off on Katherine. Henry and Francis should have been dismissed as soon as she knew about their flirtation. She should definitely have intervened in Katherine's engagement and bargaining with Francis was reckless.
@@Romdormer the gossip was already there. The gossip from a servant was what brought Katherine down in the end. If Agnes had dismissed Henry then they could have gotten away with it, as Katherine didn't sleep with him. She should have just gotten a serious lecture on decorum. Could have even married Katherine off if there were concerns after Francis. That Katherine then went and had at least an emotional affair with Thomas said she didn't realise what a serious game this was either.
Trying to look at your book recommendations on your blog but can’t seem to get the links to work :/ Do you have any good ones to recommend? Always on the look out for more forgotten people in history especially women! Really enjoying you videos, I’m working on a history degree at the moment so nice to see videos that are based on facts and research ❤️
@@maishaahmed915 oh that sounds interesting! Gonna look in to that right away, thank you for the recommendation ☺️ She is such an interesting historical person thanks again!!
That was actually normal for the time. Margaret Beaufort's second husband was a lot older. So was Mary Tudor's first husband. princess Mary was initially betrothed to the older emperor.
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Always had a soft spot for Anne of Cleves.
Henry “I want an annulment”
Anne “Yes Your Majesty”. Anne backs away slowly making no sudden moves.
Agnes Howard being spared from execution during Henry VIII's reign, due to her age
Margaret Pole: "Are You Kidding Me?!"
I believe her punishment was disgrace and banishment from court.
Right? This made me laugh, though. 😂 I think it was just a matter of catching Henry on a 'good day', if there was such a thing. Plus in Margaret's case, Henry really wanted her son Reginald, but couldn't get at him. In Agnes' case, he had his pound of flesh by executing Katherine Howard and Jane Boleyn.
I love how focused on female people of importance especially in the medieval and early modern periods this channel is. Thank yóu
That's the gospel truth.
I love learning about medieval women.
You're welcome! Thank you for being here and enjoying the channel. 😊 I do throw the odd man in here and there, but honestly, there isn't nearly enough on the women alongside them.
It is beginning to seem to me that the moral of most of these stories is that one should be wary of greed and be vigilant (if not afraid) of charismatic and powerful men and the women who chase them, for neither will do one much good, in the long run, especially if you too are a woman. Fascinating as always, thank you.
There certainly is a pattern to human behaviour here, isn't there? 😂Certainly now I think we're coming to embrace the understanding of 'red flags', but of course at the time (and for centuries afterwards) a lot of those traits were confused with romantic notions.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople why did noblewomen allow their husbands to mistreat them.
Must admit if Henry had started to show interest in you at court, drooling slightly might be a good idea.
I have always wondered about the back story of Agnes Howard. Thank you for bringing it to light.
I wonder what her relationship to Anne Boleyn was like?
You're welcome! I hope it was enjoyable and informative. 😊
Beautiful history video on Lady Agnes Howard. Fascinating work. Thank you ❤👍🏻
Have Lady Agnes's papers survived.
24 estates?! 😮 dude. That’s insane.
I was waiting for video about Agnes Howard, Duchess of Norfolk. TY
I didn't know what her first name was until now.
Glad to oblige! I hope you enjoyed it. 😊
For the question (I did ask it last week but the next day so I don’t think you saw it), if you could put two historical figures in a locked room together, who would they be and why?
Tbh idk who I’d put in there, but I think it’d be for somewhat comedic motives- imagine Charles II and Henry VI in the same room, for example😭
I'm so sorry if I missed it! It's the summer holidays here, so I'm juggling work while watching my little boy, and so I'm not able to check my comments as often. Apologies! But I've caught it this time. 😂
Ooh, it would definitely have to be for comedic motives. No question. The idea of Charles II and Henry VI is hilarious; they would start out all polite and regal, and then Charles would crack a sexual innuendo and Henry would just get triggered. Eventually Henry would try to give him a lecture, but halfway through falls into a catatonic state.😂😂😂
I think I'd choose...Henry VIII and Sigmund Freud, to try and work through the king's several problems. I reckon that would be pretty good. Either all of Henry's problems and trauma are solved, or Freud comes out a nervous wreck. Either way, I would pay good money to see that.
I love this narrator and truly think she’s the best female narrator on RUclips!
She's definitely a pro.
This is a great video. I know some about Henry VIII and his six wives but learning about their families is fascinating. As colorful of a person as she was, I'm surprised there hasn't been a biopic about her. Well not totally surprised given sexism.
I feel the same as well.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! It's very much appreciated. 😊
Wonderful as usual thank you so much !!!
Has anyone wonder if Agnes was the duke of Norfolk's mistress before being his wife?
Honestly, with the speed with which they married after Elizabeth's death, I think there at the least there must have been an emotional affair and attraction going on.
Still wouldn't surprise me if the duke also cheated on Agnes.
Catherine was 12 or 13 when her ‘relationship’ with mannox began. Even by the standards of the time, she was too young
No about 14
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8:06 Henry and Anne married secretly because Anne WAS pregnant as she was getting older so she got pregnant so Henry was forced to marry her to make his heir legitimate, getting rid of his hesitancy.
8:26 Henry and Anne married publicly on the 25th of January 1533, and their marriage was annulled in May. It wasn’t a few days difference.
Can u a video on Anne of Bohemia and Joan of Navarre and Catherine of Valois. Richard II, Henry IV and V wives?
I feel like Agnes was a Taurus. Silver in the house in excess. Very comfortable residence(s)? I can relate.
Good title hehe- Idk her side of the story- yet👀- but I can’t but blame her for her lack of supervision. She did have a ton of wards, and at an old age too, but if she couldn’t take proper care of all of them, then maybe shouldn’t have taken them on🥲
Hi friend ! How are you ?
She was grandmother to Katharine Howard, so maybe that is why.
Her responsibility of blame we'll never really know.
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Hello! I’m well, hope you are too. Any new documentaries you’ve been watching?
@@lfgifu296 While its not a documentary, I just got done watching a video of the adopted black son of Peter the great.
You know the minute he gets out, he’ll be back at it.
Who are you talking about?
Hi, awesome live history video. I enjoyed it. How are you doing? How is the weather where you are? I'm doing well. and so is my cat Benjamin. He'll be eight years old next month. We have a heatwave in Ontario, Canada . In the next video in the future could you do Anne Seymour. She was the wife of Edward Seymour and sister in law to Henry, the eighth third wife, Queen Jane Seymour. In the 16th century . Have a great day. See you next video 😊
All I know of Anne Seymour is what I saw on the tudors.
I wouldn't mind learning the truth about this woman.
Hi Michelle! I'm doing okay, just trying to get through the summer holidays while my little boy is off school, haha! We've finally got the same weather, it's super hot here (for us), and sunny. And I'm glad Benjamin and you are doing well too! Poor Mallard probably wishes I would shave all of her fur off, she's too hot and keeps snoozing. I will definitely add Anne Seymour to my list, thank you for another great suggestion. 😊
With the exemption of Anne Dacre Howard, I always had a feeling that these Howard wives weren't very motherly or, like Elisabeth Stafford Howard, were rejected even by their own children. Maybe it was due to children dying young (so no point to get attached) or them being hosted in other noble families or that their eduçation was often delegated to tutors or governesses, I think these women themselves didn't receive many attention from their parents.
Another great video and a very interesting women. I did not know that she was a lady in waiting. Could you please consider doing a shortish video naming each lady in waiting under henrys 6 wifes? You dont have to go into their life history,but maybe along the lines of their name, family connection and where they were from for example England,maybe a city or Spanish and how long they were they were a lady in waiting?.. something along those lines please.
Knowing Catherine's rampant deviations Agnes should have quickly married her off. Lots of children and wards to look after Agnes was probably comfortable that they were taken care of and more interested and busy with other affairs.
Henry and Frances should also have been moved to other households.
Thanks👍🏼👍🏼
How does a “Lady in Waiting” work? Do they move to the castle for a time? Is it only for special events? It’s all confusing to this American.
It's a good question! I can't answer so much for nowadays, but certainly in the 16th century, yes and no. 😅 A lady-in-waiting would be expected to live with the household as she had to help with day-to-day duties, but she would have periods where she returned home for giving birth, for example. Their husbands would also be at court in attendance, so there would have been either (depending on the country and time) apartments at the royal residences, or their own properties close to court. The nature of a lady-in-waiting developed over time as well to include a more political role (albeit one that was less obvious than a man's political role), so there were also times she might be trusted with carrying a message internationally, and this would also create a short time away from her household.
@@HistorysForgottenPeoplefor the king it was a breeding ground for adultery .
I think she just didn't take anything seriously, and that rubbed off on Katherine. Henry and Francis should have been dismissed as soon as she knew about their flirtation. She should definitely have intervened in Katherine's engagement and bargaining with Francis was reckless.
Probably didn't want the gossip and it's reflection on the marriageability of Katherine.
@@Romdormer the gossip was already there. The gossip from a servant was what brought Katherine down in the end. If Agnes had dismissed Henry then they could have gotten away with it, as Katherine didn't sleep with him. She should have just gotten a serious lecture on decorum. Could have even married Katherine off if there were concerns after Francis. That Katherine then went and had at least an emotional affair with Thomas said she didn't realise what a serious game this was either.
Trying to look at your book recommendations on your blog but can’t seem to get the links to work :/ Do you have any good ones to recommend? Always on the look out for more forgotten people in history especially women! Really enjoying you videos, I’m working on a history degree at the moment so nice to see videos that are based on facts and research ❤️
Wonder what princess mary really felt about the Howards.
Is there a biography of Agnes Howard?
I recommend "Anna, Duchess of Cleves," a biography that uses German records to dispel the myths surrounding her annulment.
@@maishaahmed915 oh that sounds interesting! Gonna look in to that right away, thank you for the recommendation ☺️ She is such an interesting historical person thanks again!!
Can you do a video on doreathea jordan the mistress of William iv
I would like to see that too.
William iv did Doreathea Jordan wrong.
That's a great suggestion! Thank you, I'll add her to my list. 😊
Were the Howard family descendants of royalty?
Elisabeth Tilney is my great great great grandmother
❤ I don’t want to choose 🎉
She was 20 marrying a man of 54...
You think that's gross 20 was considered old and 13 considered old enough to be married off and expected to consummate the marriage.
That was actually normal for the time. Margaret Beaufort's second husband was a lot older. So was Mary Tudor's first husband. princess Mary was initially betrothed to the older emperor.
Like deployed 👍
Thank you as always, it's much appreciated! 😊
Thanks!
Thank you so much! ❤️ 😊 I'm glad you enjoyed the video - Agnes Howard does not get enough of the spotlight in my humble opinion.