This seven year old video has me absolutely fascinated. I had no idea this existed, but I'm so grateful that they found it and protected it in such a short amount of time. Cheers to everyone who put in the effort to make sure this amazing piece of history stays protected!
I live in Sylacauga Alabama. We have the purest white marble in the world. I map sinkholes. Our Marble Mines are the result of a ancient sea. My town is located in east central Alabama in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. I know how far inland the ancient oceans once were but this underwater forests is a testimony to how low sea levels have been. Alabama has a amazing past & future in regards to ecology & history.
Could it be possible that the forest had broken off by a giant sheet of ice cleaved from 2 miles high and forced out there like a big mat? Or was washed out by a flooded coastal lake that burst
@@ryansmith5978 Few years ago in Chattanooga there was a KKK rally: 7 klansmen, maybe, and 10,000 police, National Guard and protesters. This internet, and thru it all social media, is a wonderful thing. 20,000 years from now there will be no trace of it or any of the useless trillions of words and pictures posted on em. Scientists then: "Hey, we found some trees in the gulf of Kansas. Guess the people couldn't write on anything but air. No evidence of them".
@@willylo4090 This site is fifty thousand years old. According to most Christian scholars the flood myth happened a little over four thousand years ago.
Bama has it all. Mountains, Beaches, Race Cars and Rockets. The largest Canyon East of the Grand Canyon. Muscle Shoals, the Recording Capital of the World. Now we discover this. Alabama is also alphabetically FIRST! WE LOVE OUR STATE.
Yes little river canyon is awsome . I grew up on its cliffs. Spent many a day swiming down in that canyon . And hope to have my ashes scattered there when i pass . Roll Tide Roll !
@@odderotter8950 You are lucky to have been that close to the canyon. It's a great place to explore. Love me some Bama. My ancestors traveled on horseback to Tuscaloosa from Shelby County in 1819 to register their land when Bama became a State. They were awarded 6000 acres for their participation in the Spanish/American War.
This lends perspective as to how the earth is always going through constant changes, some of them have been quite extreme, so be ready to adapt whenever necessary.
Good Day, turns out that right on the beach at Seagrove Beach, FL in front of my in-laws house, Hurricane Katrina, exposed bald cypress tree stumps. We have pics of the stumps, they were quite numerous up and down the beach. Over the years the sand has covered them but about 50-80 feet off shore, you can go down 8-12 feet below the surface and find exposed stumps/roots resting above the sand. So you are right on target in wondering if these forests were common across the Gulf.
Thank you so much for working to protect this site. This was an excellent documentary. It was fascinating and incredibly informative as well as entertaining because it just really tweaked my brain!!! Kudos to everyone for your hard work! I really hope that this becomes a protected site. Great job, Ben Raines!!!
I'm so happy they didn't sell the trees for furniture or guitars. They made it a preserve to study and found so many cool things. How refreshing in today's society!
The ONLY way to preserve these stumps is to cover them back up with sand or they will deteriorate in a couple decades. So why not preserve them in beautiful works of furniture or "guitars" that will last a LOT longer.
Fascinating. Well done, Ben Raines! Not only is the forest awe-inspiring, Dr. Kristine De Long, the scientist from LSU, is especially impressive. She dispels so many stereotypes. What a great documentary.
Many years ago I dove a similar site right off the Jetties In St Andrews park FL. The trees were exposed about 100 yards out in the cut in about 40 feet of water. As they stated after the trees are exposed they quickly erode in the seawater, but I expect that there are many such sites off the Gulf Coast buried under the mud, just waiting.
from a distant Raines cousin, thank you Ben Raines & for this interesting, inspiring piece of work about the area where we our AL rooted family vacationed for years; there is so much more to our world than we can ever catalog & digest
Excellent documentary that makes you wonder if part of our oceanic restoration processes should involve species from land as these Cypresses certainly unveil. Brilliant work.
Interesting stuff. Although I'm always a little puzzled as to why sea level change never allows for the massive land subsidence and uplift associated with the Earth's cataclysmic cycle.
I could listen to this narrators calm soothing voice for hours. I would happily pay to listen to sleep audio from him. Unfortunately his name is not given in the description. Fascinating video.
@@allengreen1633 The earth has its own seasons ,countries are feeling the shift . Dinosaurs: why is the world cracking flooding and burning Cave Men: Climate change
My uncle has found sea shells all over his property in maplesville al. Maplesville is west chilton county between Montgomery and Birmingham. The shoreline came as far north as that. Half the state. I always thought he probably has a whale 🐋 skeleton in that land somewhere lol 😆
They claim that the bank head forest hill side facing Moulton AL including Moulton that people have found shark teeth while drilling wells. Not sure it's true but..
So glad they're making it into a protected site, but a little concerned that they give those who just see dollar signs a pretty good idea of its location.
Cool! You usually find evidence of sea life on land, not land life in the sea. To bring the whole stump in, they could have had an auto-inflate raft. Slip it, deflated, under the stump, then inflate it. Tow it to a dock and raise it with a motorized lift.
@@justinsidious9772 bruh. these trees have nothing to do with fossil fuels. they wanted to turn it into (novelty, who cares how old the wood is) tables, which was literally said in the video.
Humans: “you found an amazing prehistoric forest on the bottom of the ocean that is filled with marine life…serving as a living, breathing representation of history on this planet??!!!!!” Also humans: “let’s dig it all up and turn it in to nifty nic-nacs!!!”
exactly. don’t tell. let others find it if they want. the people in the video say they’re keeping exact coordinates secret. And also, the video marks on X on the approximate spot and also says it’s 15 miles due south of Gulf Shores in approxmately 60 ft of water. But “they” are keeping it “secret”. hahahahaha i love it. Sure, they could be lieing i guess, but it doesn’t seem like it would be too hard to find. Also, heck yah got some specks and mangroves!
Snapper and Trout is what I heard, coming from an expat Californian, that sounds yummy to me and the smell of the small cones of the cypress have a fabulous fragrance of citrus! Marvelous
@@sincity2562 carbon dating will not work for more than a max range of 20,000 years; besides this, we don't know how much of the daughter product (c14) the specimen started off with.
@@4-mylrdjesus417 So that us why the carbon dating didn't work for these trees and if you watched the whole thing, its why they ended up taking sediment cores and then also finding some newer trees slightly above these and dated them to 40,000-45,000. And they didn't say before the pyramids they just say how old they are. Theres a lot that goes into figuring out historic timelines which involves a lot of sampling at different places and comparing different indicators to correlate known events that can leave identifiable remains. Not to mention there's a lot of techniques outside of just radiocarbon dating, and it has gotten a lot more accurate.
@@connorjohnson4402 Problems with carbon dating: As an analogy, think of walking into a room in which you find a burning candle, after being in the room for a while the candle goes out. The only thing you can know(while the candle was burning) is the rate at which the candle was burning. You cannot know the length of the candle when it was lit. You cannot know if the atmospheric conditions in the room were constant before you entered the room(e.g. did the oxygen/nitrogen levels vary over time). Likewise with carbon dating: you do not know how much of 'daughter' product(C14) was present in the specimen at the time of death. You cannot know how much of the 'parent' product(N2) was available in the atmosphere prior to the time of death (e.g. air pockets found in amber show that O2 levels were around 32% at the time the pine sap solidified). Further more, you cannot know if the levels of solar radiation (a major contributor in converting N2 --> C14) were different prior to the death of the specimen. -- This is just an excerpt of the things that would not be known to us. Carbon dating along with any other radiometric dating method are useless, and find there way into real science for the sole purpose in maintaining an evolutionary world view.
global sea levels, as well as global temperature, has been both lower, and higher, not only in recorded human history, but in geological time frames as well.... to go along with that, life has tended to flourish more in warmer times, and much less so in cooler times.... there have been sea level rises that were so fast, the human and animal inhabitants of an area didnt have time to figure out how to get away. there are places in the world where the ancient sea level is plainly seen, much higher than the present... are humans causing the current warming trend? is there actually a warming trend? if there is, is it absolutely due to CO2? the idea that the world as it is presently, the climate we currently have, the sea level we currently have, the areas of desert and forest we currently have, must remain as it is for ever, in stasis and never changing, is a ridiculous and arrogant notion... even without us, even without our influence, the world, the global environment WILL change, whether we like it or not, and it may not be a change that is conducive to how we currently live.
Did you guys miss the end of Gregory's sentence "....BEFORE modern civilization."? I think he was making the point both of you have made, just in ironic fashion. LOL, actually I was looking through the comments for this specific comment. This current push by "scientists" that everything's our fault (climate related) is patently ridiculous.
@@Doxymeister I also feel that humans are screwing up the world with pollution and destruction of habitat. Bit the global warming agenda is a huge scam imo. This world has been completely covered with ice and been completely thawed many times over.
@@gregorydiggs9227 Absolutely agree with that as well. There's no excuse, with the technology we have today, to poop in our own backyard. Really ticks me off.
we not going to tell you where it is to protect it but, here is a map and its in 60 feet of water about 15 miles out and oh yeah, there was a river, just like the one that currently exists on the land now...
The Galactic Milankovitch cycles Eccentricity The galactic bulge does a complete 360 degree rotation onece every 240,000 years. This causes our magnetic north to vary from 22.5 degrees east to or west declination. Towards or away from our aphelion with the galactic bulge. With aphelion and Perihelion changing once every 60,000 years. Causing extremes of ice and or tropical age when we are closest to or farthest away from the galactic bulge. This 60ka obliquity cycle also regulates the intensity of our 26,000 year precession/Yuga/Great Year cycle of crossing the galaxies Electromagnetic/Gravitational equator/plane once every 13,000 years half the precession/Yuga/Great Year cycle at the vernal/Autumnal equinoxes. This crossing of the galaxies EM/Gravitational plane once every 13,000 years causes EMP plasma burst/Pillars of Fire, Comets as they get pushed from our solar systems OOrt cloud, Asteroids from crossing the Galaxies Kuiper asteroid belt and Cataclysmic size East to West Global Tsunami's probably at 800 mph because our globe rotates at 1000 mph at the equator and 0 mph at the poles with most of the water being in the south because we are moving north. Covid1984 like CO2 is a LIE with an inconvenient truth as it's kernel of truth Precession causes our climate cycles of Continental glaciers with corresponding lower sea levels brought on by East to West global Tsunami's every 13,000 years when we cross the galactic plane at the vernal or autumnal equinoxes. Changing or the north star/Precession regulated by Galactic eccentricity. Global Warming/cooling is being caused by increase/decrease in the amount of Direct sunlight the higher latitudes/poles receive in correspondence with our changing magnetic north with the galactic bulge 240/120,000 year rotation cycle. Jesus loved all races because ther is only one race, THE HUMAN RACE! With only one minority. THE INDIVIDUAL HUMAN! Anyone religion or dogma that teaches or preaches otherwise is either tribalism or has a god complex. Nazi Master Race- Jewish Chosen People same ideology. Nazi Eugenics - Jewish Purity of Blood hate for the bastard child Jesus.
Extraordinary! . . Excellent data gathering. To think, there’s much more in that underwater forest and nearby undersea neighborhood. . . ‘Core sample too old to date using C14' techniques - That’s very significant yet not final. . . Thanks for the update
Really glad everyone involved is on the same page. I don't even tell people where it is. No one needs to evict life just to make a table or guitar. And the life living there is far more valuable than any human possession. I'd say that was opinion, but I would by lying. May the location always remain secretive. May there be at least one location on this planet where humans do not mess with anything.
@@YSLRD Decomposition is unlikely unless water levels drop and expose the wood to oxygen. And in the last 20 dives over the last 30 years, nothing has been buried as of yet. If the raised money would go to help children, I would hold my tongue. But mostly, I am against harvesting because of the life which had made the under-water forest home. Seeing the life there in person is levels more powerful than any youtube video could achieve.
My buddy here in Florida has a place with a thick swamp nearby that's very old. Once when we had a prolonged dry spell and the water in the swamp was really low, I saw a branch sticking of the mud that looked like driftwood. I like to tinker with wood carving and took a closer look. What I had discovered was an ancient Cypress tree that had fallen into the swamp many many years ago. It appeared to be in the process of petrification because it was very dense and heavy. I only took the branches that stuck out for carving and left the rest of the tree there. The wood was excellent for carving because it would allow you to carve intricate detail.
Right. That woman talking about taking a chunk, finding out what climate it lived in, how old it is when they look at it; blah blah, great, ok… then what? They find out after disrupting the ecosystem these creatures live in, all peacefully, when they could just leave them alone. 😡 Greedy greedy ‘humans’. I hate that woman. Just by hearing her voice.
@@werewolf4358 if we weren't here it would still keep changing. So we're definitely not causing it. We've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over 200 years. Boy do I hate whining liberals.
@@daffyduck9901 The fact that it's changing so rapidly in just the past 50-100 years is part of the evidence that human activity is the major cause. Usually such changes are much slower, and take 40,000 to 100,000 years. We're only 12,000-18,000 years past the last ice age, so this warming is too rapid. But even if all scientists are wrong (except, of course, the ones paid by the fossil fuel industry), doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution, and protect the planet we depend on? This is not a right or left issue. Politicians on both sides like to make it a wedge issue so they don't have to do anything about it, and they can still take money from their corporate donors. But we need, for so many reasons, not to let them divide us anymore.
Yep. I apologize if I'm missing sarcasm. But yes there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that there compression on the surface of the earth from where the ice stacks up on the caps. And supposedly they used to be miles and miles thicker.
I live on the Tx Gulf Coast! This documentary is impressive work and very much a wild discovery to say the least! Is this area anywhere close to where the trees were swallowed up by that sinkhole near the Gulf Coast line around Mississippi or maybe it was Louisiana? Just wondering...also, do we know where those trees ended up and have we visited them where they are now...IDK if those were Cyprus treees or was that the lot of trees that were actually 1 tree with one HUGE root system? If anyone reads this comment/reply here and can answer me any of these questions I'm asking here, I'd greatly appreciate it if you would lmk...Thanks!
@@annettezaleski that sinkhole was t really a sinkhole. It was a mine that got accidentally breeches by a drill rig. It was in LA I think, though it may have been MS. The trees ended up down inside the mine, as did a boat or two. Basically what happened was there was a mine under the lake. Then someone started drilling for something and accidentally drilled through into the top of the mine. Water started filling the mine, which quickly eroded the opening of the drill hole bigger and bigger until it started swallowing the lake and everything around it. There are plenty of videos on here about it.
@@srcastic8764 Ty I appreciate your well informed reply to my confussion on this matter...were those trees cyprus trees also, by chance? I should just look it up myself right? lol thanks again!
Great documentary!! Trees and bark dissolve rapidly, indicating the forest was flooded almost instantly to that depth. Even the river itself was preserved from the massive flooding event. All that indicates that is was a short term event, less than a month or year being that it was Cypress. The area was then packed full of mud, that preserved everything; indicating mountains of water flooding off the land from the north. Might be something to do with the Carolina Bays that are not fully explained. FunnyNote: Hurricane Ivan is moving clockwise in this video. I think that was a clip of a Southern Hemisphere storm? I'm just saying.
Linda, great catch about the direction of the motion of the hurricane. I noticed it immediately and wondered why on earth they did that. LOL. Great video - they did a wonderful job.
That is about as rude and unnecessary response as you can get, JDK. However, given your grade-school education, and your adult life spent in sleepy bars, I guess that is about as good as it gets with you. Please spare us any more of your comments.
Is it far from border of tectonic plates? Is it possible that tectonic plates shift up/down dramatically and cause water rising? I think it's crucial to understand what's going on under surface.
With today's lidar, and other technologic advancements the only surprise is that they seemed to be surprised at finding any sunken signs of past civilizations.
@@gregorykillen4564 no idea .San Bernardino county museum would probably know. It’s basically a locally known fact. Fossilized Seashells are a more common sight encountered when people go hiking there.
20:00 The tree rings are thinner because at the time the trees were growing, the area of the Gulf was about 500 miles farther from the geographical North Pole which was located off the northern coast of Scandinavia, and ocean levels were about 350 to 400 feet lower than they are today due to a large icecap existing on Northern Europe and Asia. The Gulf area ran along the tropics of cancer back then (23.5 degrees north), which is a dry latitude that helps to create deserts, i.e., extensive dry climates. A crustal displacement about 45,000 years ago displaced the crust such that the geographical pole moved to north Hudson Bay in Canada, bringing the Alabama coast to within 500 miles of the Arctic circle at that time, likely killing the cypress forest due to cold and a vastly changed climate. During Earth's latest crustal displacement of 20,000 years ago, which caused the 13,000 year long melting of the icecap on North America and the 430 foot rise of ocean levels, the entire spherical-shell crust of Earth's shifted again such that North America was brought out of the north polar zone to be relocated in the temperate region of the unshifting atmosphere as it is now and the continental shelf coast of Alabama was flooded. The geographical North Pole shifted to its current location during this 2000+ year long displacement, to the middle of the Arctic Ocean where no continent exists upon which a replacement icecap could build, thus causing the dramatic rising of the world ocean as the enormous icecap melted. During crustal displacements, the tilt of the Earth does not change, i.e., the bulk of Earth keeps orbiting the sun and rotating and wobbling (which creates Earth's apparent tilt) as it does all the time, never changing. Only the thin crust of Earth shifts as a unit throughout different climate zones, like the peel of an apple or orange shifting over its interior, bringing climate changes to large continental areas. With the melting of the N. American icecap, ocean levels rose about 430 feet, swamping enormous tracts of the continental shelves, reducing Earth's vegetated land by 25 to 30 percent. This 13,000 year long swamping increased world atmospheric CO2 and CH4 (methane gas) levels significantly due to the die off of C02-consuming vegetation and rotting, methane-producing, drowned vegetation, effects seen in the data of the Antarctic ice cores taken at Vostok and Epica stations. Geological data clearly reveals that the next crustal displacement is imminent and will result in the ocean levels slowly falling again by about 200 feet over the next 10,000 years. As more cyclic displacements occur, the ocean levels will fall to their minimum again in about 100,000 years with another huge icecap building on N. America, this total 120,000 year cycle then endlessly repeating itself, reshaping the surface of the earth and regulating the life forms on it, called evolution. Crustal displacements are the driving force behind evolution that the biologists are looking for but can't see because they are uninformed by politics-based modern geology as to one of Earths 4 basic rotational motions/changes, called crustal displacement, the others motions being daily rotation, sun orbit, and wobbling of Earth's axis, these three latter rotations only supporting Life on Earth, not threatening or forcing species to adapt and change if they are able, as crustal displacements do.
I would assume this is not unique. Florida had another 100 miles of coastline before the end of the last Ice Age. Sharks teeth have been found hundreds of miles of the coast in quarries.
Both. The Rikat Structure is very likely Atlantis, having sank low, then risen high above sea level. It's also how global warming fear mongers skew climate data, but selecting some observatories, ignoring other, looking at just areas where land masses sink.
This seven year old video has me absolutely fascinated. I had no idea this existed, but I'm so grateful that they found it and protected it in such a short amount of time. Cheers to everyone who put in the effort to make sure this amazing piece of history stays protected!
I live in Sylacauga Alabama. We have the purest white marble in the world. I map sinkholes. Our Marble Mines are the result of a ancient sea. My town is located in east central Alabama in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. I know how far inland the ancient oceans once were but this underwater forests is a testimony to how low sea levels have been. Alabama has a amazing past & future in regards to ecology & history.
Wow I'm from South Alabama and this is the first time I ever heard of this, it's amazing
Thank you to everyone who worked at bringing this video to life and posted it to RUclips. Very much appreciated. Beautifully done.
Could it be possible that the forest had broken off by a giant sheet of ice cleaved from 2 miles high and forced out there like a big mat? Or was washed out by a flooded coastal lake that burst
Probably kkkk
@@jackmcandle6955 maybe an evidence of the great flood in the time of Noah... the old Book could be a great reference.
@@ryansmith5978 Few years ago in Chattanooga there was a KKK rally: 7 klansmen, maybe,
and 10,000 police, National Guard and protesters. This internet, and thru it all social media, is a wonderful thing. 20,000 years from now there will be no trace of it or any of the useless trillions of words and pictures posted on em. Scientists then: "Hey, we found some trees in the gulf of Kansas. Guess the people couldn't write on anything but air. No evidence of them".
@@willylo4090 This site is fifty thousand years old. According to most Christian scholars the flood myth happened a little over four thousand years ago.
Bama has it all.
Mountains, Beaches, Race Cars and Rockets.
The largest Canyon East of the Grand Canyon.
Muscle Shoals, the Recording Capital of the World.
Now we discover this.
Alabama is also alphabetically FIRST!
WE LOVE OUR STATE.
Shout out to the shoals !!
Yes little river canyon is awsome . I grew up on its cliffs. Spent many a day swiming down in that canyon . And hope to have my ashes scattered there when i pass . Roll Tide Roll !
@@odderotter8950 awesome
@@odderotter8950
You are lucky to have been that close to the canyon. It's a great place to explore. Love me some Bama.
My ancestors traveled on horseback to Tuscaloosa from Shelby County in 1819 to register their land when Bama became a State. They were awarded 6000 acres for their participation in the Spanish/American War.
@@odderotter8950 Roll Tide Roll! 🐘🏈
This lends perspective as to how the earth is always going through constant changes, some of them have been quite extreme, so be ready to adapt whenever necessary.
Good Day, turns out that right on the beach at Seagrove Beach, FL in front of my in-laws house, Hurricane Katrina, exposed bald cypress tree stumps. We have pics of the stumps, they were quite numerous up and down the beach. Over the years the sand has covered them but about 50-80 feet off shore, you can go down 8-12 feet below the surface and find exposed stumps/roots resting above the sand.
So you are right on target in wondering if these forests were common across the Gulf.
I was working on the beach in Biloxi and dug up tons of stumps about 10 feet deep.
Thank you so much for working to protect this site. This was an excellent documentary. It was fascinating and incredibly informative as well as entertaining because it just really tweaked my brain!!! Kudos to everyone for your hard work! I really hope that this becomes a protected site. Great job, Ben Raines!!!
Truly amazing! I'm in Mobile Alabama and this hits home!! Thank you for doing this.
This is one of the most interesting videos I have seen. Would love updates.
study you will be surprised.
Beautiful! So cool to know that something this exciting is right off the Alabama coast!
I'm so happy they didn't sell the trees for furniture or guitars. They made it a preserve to study and found so many cool things. How refreshing in today's society!
yeah thats fucked up maybe ask that wood worker how he would feel if i destroyed his garden and took his house to sell at the scrap yard
The ONLY way to preserve these stumps is to cover them back up with sand or they will deteriorate in a couple decades. So why not preserve them in beautiful works of furniture or "guitars" that will last a LOT longer.
@@joesands8860So ignorant.
I want me a old Alabama wood geetar
Excellent Documentary!!! Hope everything goes well with preserving & protecting that region!!!
So Alabama has a 50000 year old forest for a coral reef. How cool is that??!
Uuuhhh. Ancient memes.
Scott Stafford I would like to see this I only live a hour away so that would be cool to see
It makes me want to dig up my scuba certification and go see it. I can imagine they will be giving submarine tours in the not so distant future.
...and there is evidence that Keith Richards may have played there as a teenager.
Alabama the beautiful.
Great that you guys decided to protect the area. Well done, hats off!
14:30 love watching him get so excited. wholesome
Amazing information and I'm sure there is more to come. Hope you keep us informed. Thank You for the hard but exciting work.
Fascinating. Well done, Ben Raines! Not only is the forest awe-inspiring, Dr. Kristine De Long, the scientist from LSU, is especially impressive. She dispels so many stereotypes. What a great documentary.
Spectacular documentary and scientific work! Geology is so beautiful and this forest only occurred in a very recent past of the Earth!
*Everyone should watch this video at least once before RUclips takes it down*
Beauty of underworld of this river, looks awesome with those trees.
Amazing work, what a great job - thanks to everyone involved for their efforts.
What a cool video. Alabama has a rich history
Us locals have know of this site for many years... I collected a small root with bark shortly after hurricane ivan... it's a neat dive...
Many years ago I dove a similar site right off the Jetties In St Andrews park FL. The trees were exposed about 100 yards out in the cut in about 40 feet of water. As they stated after the trees are exposed they quickly erode in the seawater, but I expect that there are many such sites off the Gulf Coast buried under the mud, just waiting.
if you only knew there was life before them before us e.t.c
Great video
Wow was this interesting! Thank you. Distracted me from my mortality for a while!
EXCELLENT DOCUMENTARY!
I think they deserve more credit this is cool
from a distant Raines cousin, thank you Ben Raines & for this interesting, inspiring piece of work about the area where we our AL rooted family vacationed for years; there is so much more to our world than we can ever catalog & digest
Excellent documentary that makes you wonder if part of our oceanic restoration processes should involve species from land as these Cypresses certainly unveil. Brilliant work.
Interesting stuff. Although I'm always a little puzzled as to why sea level change never allows for the massive land subsidence and uplift associated with the Earth's cataclysmic cycle.
come on man, don't you know its like, if the land is subsiding it means the sea level is rising. it is just like everything is racist.
More on that over at the suspicious observers channel
21:38 lol at the guy on the paddle board going all out in the background
Going all out! Showing his legendary skills to the camera but noone cares 😭
That was me on the paddle boat
I could listen to this narrators calm soothing voice for hours. I would happily pay to listen to sleep audio from him. Unfortunately his name is not given in the description. Fascinating video.
You can call him Brummy
Makes it easy to see why so many ancient cultures had floods in their mythology.
Ours will too
Great work! I hope you post updates on the scientific progress now and then. Thanks
Where my grandmother lived in Clarke county there's lots and lots of rocks with sea shells in them
I was working in that area and dug up some of those! Brought them back here to Louisiana and my wife has them in her flower bed.
That's called crinoids
@@allengreen1633 The earth has its own seasons ,countries are feeling the shift .
Dinosaurs: why is the world cracking flooding and burning
Cave Men: Climate change
Lovely background music, thank you
It should protected as a world heritage site. No one should mine those logs!
wow.
look here global citizen. free market
Agree @Sharon
I can understand why you would say that. However, the wood will be dissolved in 20 years without being preserved or brought up and dried out.
too late ive been harvesting my logs here or yrs now thanks YT thats now my honey hole
Please , yea let’s spend money on logs that are exposed and will now ROT.
Document it , harvest it and sell it. Put funds to what can be saved. DUH !
Awesome! RTR
Congratulations for the work done. Thank you for sharing it.
This was great! Just think what we might find out from this. Very exciting! Thanks so much!
My uncle has found sea shells all over his property in maplesville al. Maplesville is west chilton county between Montgomery and Birmingham. The shoreline came as far north as that. Half the state. I always thought he probably has a whale 🐋 skeleton in that land somewhere lol 😆
I would love to take a trowel at his land . What a treasure trove he has !
I know a spot on the summit of the Rocky mountains in Canada. Covered with shellfish !
New Zealand has a whale skeleton in the middle of the South Island, hundreds of miles from the ocean, now protected by a glass cover.
what is the alabama state fossil?
your ignorance is voluntary
They claim that the bank head forest hill side facing Moulton AL including Moulton that people have found shark teeth while drilling wells. Not sure it's true but..
Awesome video as the time line is unreal! 45,000 years old? Wow good job!
So glad they're making it into a protected site, but a little concerned that they give those who just see dollar signs a pretty good idea of its location.
Cool! You usually find evidence of sea life on land, not land life in the sea. To bring the whole stump in, they could have had an auto-inflate raft. Slip it, deflated, under the stump, then inflate it. Tow it to a dock and raise it with a motorized lift.
Really admire these people....Friends of the Earth...
Wonderful documentary Mr.Raines
Outstanding I'm so glad ur protecting it thankyou
Slowly we are getting the information we need to know our history, im so thankful for that...
5:50 You guys are modern day heroes. Thank you so much for not selling your souls for unsustainable temporary profit.
Your computer/phone run on fossil fuels. You should stop commenting on things.
@@justinsidious9772 bruh. these trees have nothing to do with fossil fuels. they wanted to turn it into (novelty, who cares how old the wood is) tables, which was literally said in the video.
And there it is…
This video is so fantastic thank you
Humans: “you found an amazing prehistoric forest on the bottom of the ocean that is filled with marine life…serving as a living, breathing representation of history on this planet??!!!!!”
Also humans: “let’s dig it all up and turn it in to nifty nic-nacs!!!”
Some ignorant or careless humans were like that. Thankfully those dive bar owners who discovered it were not those things, right? 🙂
@@Mels925 true brother 👍
@@willm5814 I don't mind the masculine term 😊 even though I'm a woman hot af just kidding I can't go that far!! Haha
@@Mels925 lol 😂 sorry about that - I’m a man and I’m old af! 😂😂
@@willm5814 I'm prob older
I fished it, mangrove snapper, and speckled sea trout was all I caught. I'll never tell anyway
exactly. don’t tell. let others find it if they want. the people in the video say they’re keeping exact coordinates secret. And also, the video marks on X on the approximate spot and also says it’s 15 miles due south of Gulf Shores in approxmately 60 ft of water. But “they” are keeping it “secret”. hahahahaha i love it. Sure, they could be lieing i guess, but it doesn’t seem like it would be too hard to find. Also, heck yah got some specks and mangroves!
Snapper and Trout is what I heard, coming from an expat Californian, that sounds yummy to me and the smell of the small cones of the cypress have a fabulous fragrance of citrus! Marvelous
Science person: "You can tell it's a cypress, cause the way it is."
could you give me the full details on how you arrived at an age of 50,000 years before the pyramids?
My best guess would be radiocarbon dating.
@@sincity2562 carbon dating will not work for more than a max range of 20,000 years; besides this, we don't know how much of the daughter product (c14) the specimen started off with.
@@4-mylrdjesus417 ah true. It is another mystery then.
@@4-mylrdjesus417 So that us why the carbon dating didn't work for these trees and if you watched the whole thing, its why they ended up taking sediment cores and then also finding some newer trees slightly above these and dated them to 40,000-45,000. And they didn't say before the pyramids they just say how old they are. Theres a lot that goes into figuring out historic timelines which involves a lot of sampling at different places and comparing different indicators to correlate known events that can leave identifiable remains. Not to mention there's a lot of techniques outside of just radiocarbon dating, and it has gotten a lot more accurate.
@@connorjohnson4402
Problems with carbon dating:
As an analogy, think of walking into a room in which you find a burning candle, after being in the room for a while the candle goes out. The only thing you can know(while the candle was burning) is the rate at which the candle was burning. You cannot know the length of the candle when it was lit. You cannot know if the atmospheric conditions in the room were constant before you entered the room(e.g. did the oxygen/nitrogen levels vary over time). Likewise with carbon dating: you do not know how much of 'daughter' product(C14) was present in the specimen at the time of death. You cannot know how much of the 'parent' product(N2) was available in the atmosphere prior to the time of death (e.g. air pockets found in amber show that O2 levels were around 32% at the time the pine sap solidified). Further more, you cannot know if the levels of solar radiation (a major contributor in converting N2 --> C14) were different prior to the death of the specimen. -- This is just an excerpt of the things that would not be known to us. Carbon dating along with any other radiometric dating method are useless, and find there way into real science for the sole purpose in maintaining an evolutionary world view.
Alabama is awesome!
Nature is fascinating when you leave it the hell alone...ty uploader...
Cypress or mangrove? And sometimes the water stays where it is, and the land moves up or down.
Bald cypress definitely. The shape is distinctive and Mangroves don't get anywhere near that large.
@@M.Campbell did they ever figure out how old the trees were or when they were inundated with water?
@@markgarin6355 between 48000 and 60000 years old
Educational thank you
what I would love to see is for somebody to plot out every tree and the landscape to have it resurrected in 3D.
I would love to see it in 3D!
Right...
Fascinating stuff. Thank you for sharing!
Imagine that. Global warming and sea level rise before modern civilization
global sea levels, as well as global temperature, has been both lower, and higher, not only in recorded human history, but in geological time frames as well.... to go along with that, life has tended to flourish more in warmer times, and much less so in cooler times.... there have been sea level rises that were so fast, the human and animal inhabitants of an area didnt have time to figure out how to get away. there are places in the world where the ancient sea level is plainly seen, much higher than the present...
are humans causing the current warming trend? is there actually a warming trend? if there is, is it absolutely due to CO2?
the idea that the world as it is presently, the climate we currently have, the sea level we currently have, the areas of desert and forest we currently have, must remain as it is for ever, in stasis and never changing, is a ridiculous and arrogant notion... even without us, even without our influence, the world, the global environment WILL change, whether we like it or not, and it may not be a change that is conducive to how we currently live.
Did you guys miss the end of Gregory's sentence "....BEFORE modern civilization."? I think he was making the point both of you have made, just in ironic fashion. LOL, actually I was looking through the comments for this specific comment. This current push by "scientists" that everything's our fault (climate related) is patently ridiculous.
@@Doxymeister I also feel that humans are screwing up the world with pollution and destruction of habitat. Bit the global warming agenda is a huge scam imo. This world has been completely covered with ice and been completely thawed many times over.
@@gregorydiggs9227 Absolutely agree with that as well. There's no excuse, with the technology we have today, to poop in our own backyard. Really ticks me off.
I relate to this remark.
Ben Raines is an immense resource for Alabama. Thanks to him and the researchers for their landmark work!
we not going to tell you where it is to protect it but, here is a map and its in 60 feet of water about 15 miles out and oh yeah, there was a river, just like the one that currently exists on the land now...
And - we've informed the gov where it is so they can protect it.
Way to go.
Alabama citizen agrees. 45,000 year old. They're nuts giving this information out of where they are located🇬🇪
The Galactic Milankovitch cycles
Eccentricity
The galactic bulge does a complete 360 degree rotation onece every 240,000 years.
This causes our magnetic north to vary from 22.5 degrees east to or west declination. Towards or away from our aphelion with the galactic bulge. With aphelion and Perihelion changing once every 60,000 years.
Causing extremes of ice and or tropical age when we are closest to or farthest away from the galactic bulge.
This 60ka obliquity cycle also regulates the intensity of our 26,000 year precession/Yuga/Great Year cycle of crossing the galaxies Electromagnetic/Gravitational equator/plane once every 13,000 years half the precession/Yuga/Great Year cycle at the vernal/Autumnal equinoxes.
This crossing of the galaxies EM/Gravitational plane once every 13,000 years causes EMP plasma burst/Pillars of Fire, Comets as they get pushed from our solar systems OOrt cloud, Asteroids from crossing the Galaxies Kuiper asteroid belt and Cataclysmic size East to West Global Tsunami's probably at 800 mph because our globe rotates at 1000 mph at the equator and 0 mph at the poles with most of the water being in the south because we are moving north.
Covid1984 like CO2 is a LIE with an inconvenient truth as it's kernel of truth Precession causes our climate cycles of
Continental glaciers with corresponding lower sea levels brought on by East to West global Tsunami's every 13,000 years when we cross the galactic plane at the vernal or autumnal equinoxes. Changing or the north star/Precession regulated by Galactic eccentricity.
Global Warming/cooling is being caused by increase/decrease in the amount of Direct sunlight the higher latitudes/poles receive in correspondence with our changing magnetic north with the galactic bulge 240/120,000 year rotation cycle.
Jesus loved all races because ther is only one race, THE HUMAN RACE!
With only one minority. THE INDIVIDUAL HUMAN!
Anyone religion or dogma that teaches or preaches otherwise is either tribalism or has a god complex.
Nazi Master Race- Jewish Chosen People same ideology.
Nazi Eugenics - Jewish Purity of Blood hate for the bastard child Jesus.
I'm watching this and the part where they show on map it position on coast after Broughton saying protected its location .....not now 🤪
Bingo
A similar submerged prehistoric forest is present off of Panama City Florida.
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@@nygellabelle2193 a similar underwater prehistoric forest is also present off of Panama City Florida
@@chrisdabfabbott ohh mean that??? Alabama and the other region that you just mentioned are near???
@@nygellabelle2193 Panama City Florida and Mobile Alabama are about 150 miles apart
@@chrisdabfabbott ohh
Alabama The Magnificent
Extraordinary! . . Excellent data gathering. To think, there’s much more in that underwater forest and nearby undersea neighborhood. . . ‘Core sample too old to date using C14' techniques - That’s very significant yet not final. . . Thanks for the update
Yay! What a win for science! Thanks for thinking of the history and preservation of the area and not just trying to profit off of the find!
Really glad everyone involved is on the same page. I don't even tell people where it is.
No one needs to evict life just to make a table or guitar.
And the life living there is far more valuable than any human possession.
I'd say that was opinion, but I would by lying.
May the location always remain secretive.
May there be at least one location on this planet where humans do not mess with anything.
I vote for guitars. They could raise money by selectively harvesting a bit of it. It's going to be buried or decomposed soon anyway.
@@YSLRD
Decomposition is unlikely unless water levels drop and expose the wood to oxygen.
And in the last 20 dives over the last 30 years, nothing has been buried as of yet.
If the raised money would go to help children, I would hold my tongue.
But mostly, I am against harvesting because of the life which had made the under-water forest home.
Seeing the life there in person is levels more powerful than any youtube video could achieve.
Damnnnnn! I have always had an interest in nature but never knew about this!
Magnificent, indeed.
My buddy here in Florida has a place with a thick swamp nearby that's very old. Once when we had a prolonged dry spell and the water in the swamp was really low, I saw a branch sticking of the mud that looked like driftwood. I like to tinker with wood carving and took a closer look. What I had discovered was an ancient Cypress tree that had fallen into the swamp many many years ago. It appeared to be in the process of petrification because it was very dense and heavy. I only took the branches that stuck out for carving and left the rest of the tree there. The wood was excellent for carving because it would allow you to carve intricate detail.
I certainly hope none of those greedy salvage companies were allowed to rip any of the trees up to make coffee tables or guitars!!! Unbelievable!!
Yeah instead the greedy scientists who don’t know jack ripped them up and destroyed them. 😂
as a local i enjoy my petrified wood glass table.
fuck you and the white horse you rode in on
Right. That woman talking about taking a chunk, finding out what climate it lived in, how old it is when they look at it; blah blah, great, ok… then what?
They find out after disrupting the ecosystem these creatures live in, all peacefully, when they could just leave them alone. 😡
Greedy greedy ‘humans’. I hate that woman. Just by hearing her voice.
I wish the shark would have taken a big chunk for themselves 😂
Welcome to out neighborhood 🦈 🐠 🐟
Would be sad no doubt but I’d buy that guitar…
Absolutely amazing!
It is nice to have a program showing the earth changing it's climate without talking about humans causing it.
Hard for humans to do something a few million years before we existed. Today though? We're definitely causing it.
We are and it's called carbon
@@werewolf4358 if we weren't here it would still keep changing. So we're definitely not causing it. We've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over 200 years. Boy do I hate whining liberals.
@@daffyduck9901 The fact that it's changing so rapidly in just the past 50-100 years is part of the evidence that human activity is the major cause. Usually such changes are much slower, and take 40,000 to 100,000 years. We're only 12,000-18,000 years past the last ice age, so this warming is too rapid. But even if all scientists are wrong (except, of course, the ones paid by the fossil fuel industry), doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution, and protect the planet we depend on?
This is not a right or left issue. Politicians on both sides like to make it a wedge issue so they don't have to do anything about it, and they can still take money from their corporate donors. But we need, for so many reasons, not to let them divide us anymore.
@@stephaniecarrow4898 oh yeah what about volcanoes Mount Saint Helens alone probably put more in the atmosphere than mankind ever had.
Can you just imagine how comfortable that furniture would be or what great tone a guitar would have.
"An Anemone of yours is an Anemone of mine"👾 "Keep your friends close, and your Anenomes closer." (SpongeBob Machiavelli). 🐙
I like your comment, it gave me a chuckle 😄 then I looked up and saw my sister's cookie jar in the shape of SpongeBob! What a co-inky-dink! 😂
Bumessio!! Lol!
luv the experience and documentary
Is it possible that the land level also went down, not only that the water level rose?
They need to keep driving the Climate Change narrative
Yep. I apologize if I'm missing sarcasm. But yes there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that there compression on the surface of the earth from where the ice stacks up on the caps. And supposedly they used to be miles and miles thicker.
@@dallasreynolds2962 The ice sheet of the Ice Age only extended to just below the Great Lakes.
@@insanetubegain which ice age? There's been more than one.
Wow, what you guys are doing for our beautiful oceans …indeed! Thank you for sharing! 👁❤️👁
Wait.... They're not giving out the coordinates and there was a map marking where it is with an X marking the spot? That was bright.
LOL Try finding something offshore on a map of that scale marked with an X. If you can, you should work for Mel Fisher.
Ask the local fisherman, they'll show you
I live on the Tx Gulf Coast! This documentary is impressive work and very much a wild discovery to say the least! Is this area anywhere close to where the trees were swallowed up by that sinkhole near the Gulf Coast line around Mississippi or maybe it was Louisiana? Just wondering...also, do we know where those trees ended up and have we visited them where they are now...IDK if those were Cyprus treees or was that the lot of trees that were actually 1 tree with one HUGE root system? If anyone reads this comment/reply here and can answer me any of these questions I'm asking here, I'd greatly appreciate it if you would lmk...Thanks!
@@annettezaleski that sinkhole was t really a sinkhole. It was a mine that got accidentally breeches by a drill rig. It was in LA I think, though it may have been MS. The trees ended up down inside the mine, as did a boat or two. Basically what happened was there was a mine under the lake. Then someone started drilling for something and accidentally drilled through into the top of the mine. Water started filling the mine, which quickly eroded the opening of the drill hole bigger and bigger until it started swallowing the lake and everything around it. There are plenty of videos on here about it.
@@srcastic8764 Ty I appreciate your well informed reply to my confussion on this matter...were those trees cyprus trees also, by chance? I should just look it up myself right? lol thanks again!
Great on SCUBA learning Mexico Gulf Coast! History on people 5,000 Years and Cypress Trees!! WoW!!
Great documentary!! Trees and bark dissolve rapidly, indicating the forest was flooded almost instantly to that depth. Even the river itself was preserved from the massive flooding event. All that indicates that is was a short term event, less than a month or year being that it was Cypress. The area was then packed full of mud, that preserved everything; indicating mountains of water flooding off the land from the north. Might be something to do with the Carolina Bays that are not fully explained.
FunnyNote: Hurricane Ivan is moving clockwise in this video. I think that was a clip of a Southern Hemisphere storm? I'm just saying.
Linda, great catch about the direction of the motion of the hurricane. I noticed it immediately and wondered why on earth they did that. LOL. Great video - they did a wonderful job.
It looks like the footage is played in reverse
Or the Great Biblical Flood? Just a thought...
@@LeadByFaith81 Yes it was, a few times in the past. Thank you for the comment.
Like your style
@3:00 the satellite vid of the hurricane is swirling clockwise,
as it should be shown moving counter-clockwise, in the Northern latitudes.
The narrator sounds Australian to me . Love our ALABAMA and thank God the location is being kept secret and SAFE.
West Midlands English I would say.
That is about as rude and unnecessary response as you can get, JDK. However, given your grade-school education, and your adult life spent in sleepy bars, I guess that is about as good as it gets with you. Please spare us any more of your comments.
I reported JDK's filthy-mouth response to Maria Lynn and am happy to see they removed his post immediately. I only with they could remove HIM.
P Fulton Who is this response made to ?
P Fulton I see now and thank you sir for being a gentleman, standing up for decency.
Is it far from border of tectonic plates?
Is it possible that tectonic plates shift up/down dramatically and cause water rising?
I think it's crucial to understand what's going on under surface.
“Lots and lots of scientists “ better hope its declared a sanctuary fast , so much for the “secret”
Horrible, they want to pull the stumps up to make money and destroy the habitat.
@@crystalheart9 yeah they should leave them there so that in a million years they are oil and we can save the money for later
@@timchillin7441 Everything is here for us to destroy for profit.
With today's lidar, and other technologic advancements the only surprise is that they seemed to be surprised at finding any sunken signs of past civilizations.
wow! I’ve lived in the Gulf South my whole life and never knew this!! Amazing
I live inland of so cal. And in the San Gorgonio mountains 6000ft plus there are whale bones.
Interesting, can you tell me what area of the Mountains, Leroy ?????
@@gregorykillen4564 no idea .San Bernardino county museum would probably know. It’s basically a locally known fact. Fossilized Seashells are a more common sight encountered when people go hiking there.
@@Mr.Paul_Revere Thanks bro, appreciate your reply !!!!
Yes, from the Great Flood of Genesis.
@@robertcrusader5019 well the story of the great flood is talked about by our ancient ancestors all over the world.
Very cool program............fascinating
20:00 The tree rings are thinner because at the time the trees were growing, the area of the Gulf was about 500 miles farther from the geographical North Pole which was located off the northern coast of Scandinavia, and ocean levels were about 350 to 400 feet lower than they are today due to a large icecap existing on Northern Europe and Asia. The Gulf area ran along the tropics of cancer back then (23.5 degrees north), which is a dry latitude that helps to create deserts, i.e., extensive dry climates. A crustal displacement about 45,000 years ago displaced the crust such that the geographical pole moved to north Hudson Bay in Canada, bringing the Alabama coast to within 500 miles of the Arctic circle at that time, likely killing the cypress forest due to cold and a vastly changed climate. During Earth's latest crustal displacement of 20,000 years ago, which caused the 13,000 year long melting of the icecap on North America and the 430 foot rise of ocean levels, the entire spherical-shell crust of Earth's shifted again such that North America was brought out of the north polar zone to be relocated in the temperate region of the unshifting atmosphere as it is now and the continental shelf coast of Alabama was flooded.
The geographical North Pole shifted to its current location during this 2000+ year long displacement, to the middle of the Arctic Ocean where no continent exists upon which a replacement icecap could build, thus causing the dramatic rising of the world ocean as the enormous icecap melted. During crustal displacements, the tilt of the Earth does not change, i.e., the bulk of Earth keeps orbiting the sun and rotating and wobbling (which creates Earth's apparent tilt) as it does all the time, never changing. Only the thin crust of Earth shifts as a unit throughout different climate zones, like the peel of an apple or orange shifting over its interior, bringing climate changes to large continental areas.
With the melting of the N. American icecap, ocean levels rose about 430 feet, swamping enormous tracts of the continental shelves, reducing Earth's vegetated land by 25 to 30 percent. This 13,000 year long swamping increased world atmospheric CO2 and CH4 (methane gas) levels significantly due to the die off of C02-consuming vegetation and rotting, methane-producing, drowned vegetation, effects seen in the data of the Antarctic ice cores taken at Vostok and Epica stations. Geological data clearly reveals that the next crustal displacement is imminent and will result in the ocean levels slowly falling again by about 200 feet over the next 10,000 years. As more cyclic displacements occur, the ocean levels will fall to their minimum again in about 100,000 years with another huge icecap building on N. America, this total 120,000 year cycle then endlessly repeating itself, reshaping the surface of the earth and regulating the life forms on it, called evolution. Crustal displacements are the driving force behind evolution that the biologists are looking for but can't see because they are uninformed by politics-based modern geology as to one of Earths 4 basic rotational motions/changes, called crustal displacement, the others motions being daily rotation, sun orbit, and wobbling of Earth's axis, these three latter rotations only supporting Life on Earth, not threatening or forcing species to adapt and change if they are able, as crustal displacements do.
About 300 years ago a forest was petrified from the 1700 Cascadia earthquake. Have they considered how quickly that happened?
Amazing, thank you
Fascinating documentary. But, the area where the forest was located was shown. Is this area now protected?
Very informative and interesting. Thanks.
I would assume this is not unique. Florida had another 100 miles of coastline before the end of the last Ice Age. Sharks teeth have been found hundreds of miles of the coast in quarries.
All of what is now N America had been shallow sea for millenia.
270 miles into the gulf, 120 miles into the atlantic.
Is it all fluctuations in sea level ? Or have the crust elevations changed through plate tectonics ? .. .. I would assume both ...
Both. The Rikat Structure is very likely Atlantis, having sank low, then risen high above sea level. It's also how global warming fear mongers skew climate data, but selecting some observatories, ignoring other, looking at just areas where land masses sink.
It is incredible
This place should be protected! Absolutely beautiful!
Very interesting. thx