Should you put SOLAR on your 4WDs Roof??? + CHEAP 240v Setup! What FAILED?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Hi all, Just wanted to update you on how the setups been going, i've recently had issues with the MPPT controller overcharging the battery, (overcharging to 15.6v) if you see this happening on your battery remove the unit ASAP, it should cut off at 14.5V and if it doesn't you have a faulty unit. leaving it to overcharge can kill your battery. I'm currently making a video to address this.
Today I went out an bought a real budget Kings 12v Solar Panel with a Kings MPPT controller and a Kings 1500w 240v Inverter for my 80 series Landcruiser. The question is, is it any good?
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This panel can put out close to 100 watts ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
Cheers pat I really appreciate what you and the team are doing it’s genuine, realistic and informative keep going with the budget testing.
Thanks mate, means alot you saying that :)
Just smashed a trip from Cairns to Adelaide, fitted a new second battery and controller as mine was stuffed and it ran the fridge for a 9 day trip bloody awesome now to get an inverter cheers for the vid man gives me the enthusiasm to fit an inverter and go to the next level 🤠
appreciate that your not steering away from your roots. love the budget build that’s realistic for the average person
Thanks ozhi!
Very well said mate, I was about to say the same things. Especially for a average family man or anyone.
Yeah you see too much over built and over kill builds on RUclips.
It's nicer to see down to earth builds that your average joe can afford
Yaknow what grinds my gears… when the bigger channels do “budget builds” and than go build a 2022 lifted engineered solar powered 300 series solid axel swapped Cummins converted dual snorkel fkn 98 inch tires. This channel really keeps it real
Best one I’ve seen was a guy who had his solar panel underneath his roof rack on a fridge slide was such a good idea so he could still use his rack to put stuff on 👌
Love that you guys do stuff on a budget that most people have!! keep up the good work
Thanks mate! Really appreciate it!
I had the kings 1500w inverter in my work car for 2 years before it failed
It was literally running all day 6 days a week charging all my gear
When you factor in most guys aren’t going to be running their inverter nearly as often as I was the kings inverter in my opinion is a good buy
Awesome to hear! Thanks Jackson
I too have Kings products in my set-up. But I also have high end & Aussie made gear (ie. GME, REDARC, Engel, Drifta etc). IMO the best value for money products from Kings are their solar panels/blankets and their rear drawers. I've had the Kings rear drawers on my 80 Series for 4 years now, and it's been doing the job well. I also have one of their early inverters (4 years old), and while it's rarely used, it still works fine. I also have their 200W solar blanket and after 10 months it did fail, but 4WD Supacentre replaced it under warranty, and the newer design replacement (now 3 years old), still works well. The 160W fixed solar is still going strong after 2.5 years. And a few knick-knacks like tool sets and driving lights. So I too have no issues with Kings gear. Though I'm not a full time overlander, and I will always choose Australian made gear if within or just outside my budget. 🦘🪃
finally a new vid, let's go boys! I reckon you guys should do a vid talking about the state of the used 4wd market as it's gotten really difficult to find anything good that isn't wildly overpriced.
Thanks mate, was planning an updated 4wd buying guide video, crazy how much prices have changed in a year and a half!,
@@AussieArvos yeah even the tried and true 2nd gen Pajero has basically become extinct or wildly overpriced
@@patrioticpengu1n Story goes that Pat just sold his old Pajero for about $200k. Now his flush with cash so we'll be seeing a chopped 200 within weeks 😂
@@paulholyoak HAHAHAHA!
@@AussieArvos I just picked up a 105 series with only 196000 Ks and about 9K of gear on it for $18000
Kings main issue for me is they are a 580km round trip to the nearest store. The other issue is freight. Today they are advertising many things free freight with a "Gigantic 1 Day Only Free Delivery* Blitz". Note the asterisk. That's important. When I get to the checkout there is freight on these freight free items. Worse, other items clearly indicate freight on the item page, but back in checkout it's more for my address. Lastly, they just keeping adding freight in for each item. There's no combining of freight costs. But one thing $15 freight, it's $17 in the checkout, by another thing $20 freight, now $23, that's $40 thanks very much.
We do own a bit of Kings gear, but to have made it worth our while we did a day trip with the box trailer to pick up a roof top tent, a set of rear drawers and a whole stack of other stuff, and saved about $600 in freight.
I agree mate! i have sort of the same issue, we are outside of there freight zone and yes makes it a bit harder
keep up the good work fellas, it's all about having fun in the bush not being posh! Your kit will grow with you and with the tech coming out who know next.
Yeah that's it!!
Great video guys, I've never had any issues running Kings gear. I put my mounted solar panel on drawer slides I got from Bunnos for $50 so of it was parked up with gear on the roof or partial shade o can just pull it out. Works awesome
Awesome that you still have all that space on the rack! cheers!
I found a solar panel on hard garbage once, put a new MPPT regulator from super center on it for $50 and it works a treat
I’ve personally never had any dramas with kings gear. I’ve got 2 deep cycle batteries a compressor and a switch board and I also got a jump pack for Christmas off the in-laws. I know a lot of people on these 12 volt sites on Facebook give them a lot of shit but if it works why change it 👍🏽
Yeah, you just got to be realistic and know that you get what you pay for, alot of people that get upset are those who buy a $200 inverter and think it will last/perform like a $2000 aussie made inverter. But yeah so far my experience has been great, been able to have all these camp luxuries for a very low cost!
Keeping it real....as most of us are on a budget... Cheers
Bro you gotta stop saying you're lazy cos you out here doing the most 🤣🤣 Much love from NZ
I have a mixed quality gear (high quality & budget gear) fitted in my LC80. Most of my budget gear are Kings. And I have to say most of them (160W fixed solar / 200W solar blanket, rear drawers etc), have so far worked well. And I've had them over 3 yrs. The only products I won't recommend is their steel platform roof racks. They are heavy (50kg approx), and will start to rust after a year. The other item I'd replaces immediately are the brackets of their light bars. Mine rusted after a few months even though they are supposed to be stainless steel (tho the light bar itself is working well).
For a lot of us living in the car or in a tent is to save some money while still being able to travel and explore Australia. TBH if I have 60k instead of throwing it into modifying the car I'd be spending it on actual proper accommodation... I'm glad there's still someone out there exploring budget build for people like me.
welcome back. I've had withdrawal symptoms for the last month. Sunday mornings aren't the same without a dose of Aussie Arvos :-)
Thanks cailean!!
Absolutely, everyone should have one.
That's right, it doesn't have to be the best of the best just whatever works for you.
I have not heard a bad word about the kings gear, everyone who has it have been quite satisfied with what they have got.
Your correct about the PWM controller needs full sun to work. Any shade it doesn’t like.
I'm pretty tight. I've got a mix of ebay, kings, supercheap in my vehicle. I scored a 110w panel with mppt controller and brackets from supercheap for $109 and it's wired to a kings battery box. Simple and works efficiently.
Good video fellas. Glad you're keeping to your roots & not selling out, whilst still being able to make it worthwhile for you guys. that's the reason we're all here anyway.
Keep it up!
Thanks zeddy! We really appreciate it mate!
people see kings gear failing all the time but dont understand that a company that sells 100,000 of an item compared to another company who sells 10,000, is gonna fail more, Love the Vid!!
Thanks Viper!!
Thanks guys. I do everything on a budget otherwise wouldn’t be able to do anything. Your vid’s give me confidence that I’m not throwing my meagre bickies away.
Im an auto electrician and ill tell you what your wiring organisation gives me nightmares. But i really enjoy your content, really good to watch and yous actually test the equipment out in the field keep up the ripper content boys 👍
🤣 what you don't like spaghetti 🍝
Thanks Joel !
Yeah some ducting, conduit or something would be a good addition to the box.
Spot on with the kings gear is it hit and miss, what ever your 12v setup is make sure you have a fire extinguisher so if shit hits the fan you can put it out 👌
I had the 110Watt kings fixed panel on roof racks driving through a CTEC DC/DC charger to two 110AH AGM batteries just running a 45litre Engel for three years plus Kings LED lighting when camping. Worked a treat. Easy to knock Kings but be realistic, ALL electronics come out of China and kings buying power probably buys a bit more quality control than it used to.
Good advice.
One question, why "Buy Australian"? We manufacture sweet f all here now, chances are the components the Australian manufacturers use to build their products are imported anyway, so they end up just being a middle man. By spending the extra $ on such "Australian made" stuff we are just making so called "Australian businesses" lazier and less efficient. I agree there are a few exceptions that actually add substantial value and are in fact owned by Australians, but they are few and far between. At least Kings don't pretend and their prices are ok. Look at some well known manufacturers of bull bars for example that are supposedly Australian, but are actually foreign owned and sucked up that Jobkeeper funding for every drop they could get and even though they increased revenue over the period it was offered refuse to return our TAX dollars, the filthy immoral scum.
There's cheap Chinese gear and there are good quality moderately priced Chinese gear, and then there's is overpriced Aussie made hit or miss on the quality gear, and then there is the good quality Korean gear and finally God tier German gear
@@slinkyjo Well ordered list slinkyjo! Agree 90%...German gear is usually excellent, but not always and the prices...hard to justify.
Welcome back, buddy that beer coped afew shakes in the last 2 minutes of that vid, just watching you change from hand to hand with it. But loving the content you all put in.
Hahahahah! thanks mate!
I've got the 25anp DC/DC charger
There inverter and solar blanket ect never had a issue with it and same as you only really never use the inverter to charge laptop and battery banks/phones
Classic edit lads..... When cutting the inverter plastic knife all good, next edit scene the knife was back to front and would cut.
Love this channel.
Good video but sounds like you could have got away with just a 150w can inverter for like $50
Lol yeah I thought that too
The 12v box is starting to get messy.
But there's no real solution.
Only to put the wires that go to the same place in sleeving and work from there. Yes you will still if the odd wire here and there that needs to go somewhere else.
But if you can put those large amounts of wire together in a sleeve it will make a huge improvement.
(Fibre glass, cloth tape or plastic wire wrap/ wire conduit/self closing cable wrap).
other than 12v box, I've got all kings gear and I live out of my van. on a budget, I've got more than enough for what I need
I always say if it works for your budget it works
13:55 amen to that
Great video. When you make it big, have 2 channels. One fully sponsored and keep this one for us mugs that have to go budget. 👍👍
3:40 eBay. This is what I do the most. eBay have excellent customer protection. If you document the claim or fault, talk to the seller, initiate the return (most will have a pre-paid return label to print off), I've never had one claim rejected. I've always either being given a full refund or supplied a new one. Sometimes they don't even want the thing I bought back.
Sounds great!!
Keeping it real is what we like.....but get quality when you can. imo
Good stuff mate for trying to keep it real. Appreciate you boys.
I love when there’s a vid of yours where a concept is tested over a long period, like this one. The investment into this is incredible.
Welcome back, and great to see you keeping it real!
Thanks Michael!
Great to see builds for the average person, sick of the $$$$$$$$builds, not everyone has 10/15000 for a red arc set up 👍👍👍👍
Good honest video Pat.
Knowledge is Power ⚡️😅
I just bought and installed the exact same gear, except the mppt reg, happy as so far 🏕🚙
awesome stuff guys ....i have the same solar kings setup for about 4 years and its still pretty much doing its job fine ... big thumbs up guys
Simple answer for me personally is no I had a cheap 200w eBay panel which definitely wasn’t 200w throwing in a max of 5amps into the system I recently replaced that with a Redarc 180w panel and it doubled the input. Any cheap panel will be fudging there ratings as the industry isn’t regulated. Good video guys
That's weird, my king's 110w panel puts in roughly 6 Amps which is pretty spot on. Maybe some have duds?
@@benskies1990 Could have had cooked panels mate who knows but it was not pumping in good numbers
Good to see you guys are back
Thanks Greg! glad to be back!
Nice to see you boys back and more videos to come :)
Thanks Keil!
You guys are the best channel, missed your videos!
Thanks mate!!
Love your honesty mate, and your critical questioning, thinking and analyst.
I’m the last person to promote kings myself , but I’ve been damn impressed Witt their gear lately and so well priced. They have come along way.
Still think the kings awnings look so dorky lol.
Thanks mate! yeah their stuff has definitely improved alot over the years
Another good clip guys. I’ve been running a 160w kings panel and MPPT charger into my 130ah battery for a few years now and have never had an issue with it.
Yeah, good to know!!
We decided we didn't want to cheap out on everything with our car, and try to buy Australian when we can, but I swear some of the 12v setups I see on RUclips cost more than our car did.
Sometimes you just have to get what you can afford, and if we could afford a top of the line 12v system we probably wouldn't have got a 90 series.
Sometimes the budget stuff is the best because
Well done on the vid and mindset with keeping things reaslsitic. Keep up the good work.
Hesitantly bought a swag from Kings, when I bought I asked if I have issues will they sort them in the store(I asked as it was when the Perth store first opened). Set it up at home and the stitching between the canvas and the PVC floor had visible holes and leaked even in light rain. Took it into the store and they said they don't handle returns and to call the Eastern State number, after about 4 months of emails and pictures they wanted me to organise and pay for it to be delivered to them. I gave up and just decided to tell my story whenever I can. I wouldn't trust them to make anything more complex than their deep dish floor mats.
Enjoying the videos🍻🔥⛺️
I just put 2 of the 110w kings solar panels on the roof of my gu but wired them to my ctek
Awesome vid guys , just get out there people , enjoy this bloody beautiful country Straya tc :)
Thanks Pete!! That's the spirit!
@@AussieArvos Love the stickers also , look great on the canopy :)
Love these videos. Stuff that the average person can actually afford
Thanks Nathan!
MC4 style connectors. MC4 is a propriatory model designation.
Only thing I’m actually worried about is
Not knowing your voltages and replace the mppt kings with a victron mppt 75/15
Or at least have a 12 battery shunt to monitor your battery 🔋
The only Kings gear I avoid are their Awnings and Instant Ensuite. Everything else I have had good experiences with
Just a quick note about Mounting your solar panel. I've seen a couple of cars were they place the solar panels between the roof and the roof parcel carrier on a slide . So when they are parked they can just slide it out . . He said he had one mounted to the roof of his canopy but I eventually flew off. He said it was a little more protected. To some extent
I like the slide idea just because it gives you more room on the rack, not sure how much the shade from rack would effect it tho.
Got my sticker in the mail last week. 😎🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thanks for supporting the channel Simon!!!
Yay another video!!!! Awesome job keeping it real too🙌🏽👏🏽
Thank you!!
Nothing wrong with being Budget conscious and whilst Kings gear is inexpensive it works most of the time.
For me anyway. and I cannot afford to spend many hundreds on Redarc or ARB.
I have the same dual battery charger and their LED lights and I have not had any issues.
My fold out solar panels work well and my fridge does seem to drain my battery in hot summer days.
But that could be my 98AH battery is just not sufficient to keep the fridge running when the cabin temp gets to 45 in the car park at work.
It can't seem to last more than 8 hrs of running time with my 45 ltr. fridge in summer.
If the fridge is running on 240 volt in the house the fridge works fine and only seems to have an issue once in the hot car.
Great informative video...thanks mate good job.
Hi Pat just wondering why you went for a 1500w inverter when a small 350w would have charged a laptop etc for your needs not to mention the 2kg or more weight savings.
Had a Kings 110w that flew off my roof at 80kms an hour. 4 years on still going.
Hahahha what a beast!
Been waiting for this... Great video guys
Thanks Gary!
Good vid. Loved your shorts. Lol 👍🏻🙏🏽🦘
Thanks mate! Yeah unfortunately saw a bit of that over summer !
@@AussieArvos
Not necessarily unfortunate Pat. 👍🏻
Another ripper episode. Not going to lie, have had Aussie Arvos withdrawls of late.
Just saw this video. You have me worried. I have that MPPT controller as well as the same Giant 140AH battery. Tomorrow I will be checking the charging voltage. My setup is in a caravan.
I also have the same battery, I did have a kings mppt controller with a 120w solar panel. Literally first time I plugged it in it went straight to 18volts. Unplugged it straight away and threw it in the bin! Bought a victron 75/15 mppt and it’s the best!
Another good video. Keep an eye on the MPPT controller. They tend to overcharge the battery but you could get lucky
Yeah keeping an eye on it! Will update everyone if anything happens!!,
Great that you guys keep it real!
Thanks Gavin!
Hey man you should buy a cheap rocket stove instead of butane it doesnt take much dry sticks to cook a feed!
5:30 whoops. Hindsight is a bugger eh. should probably fuse the panel side of the MPPT also FWIW
All the accessories I’m running on my troll is Kings. And I can’t not fault there gear.
Had there Kings 110w Semi flex solar panel it was a beast got smashed by hail, ordered another one and they sent me a 160w semi flex instead and its trash, the coating on the panel all degraded and has broken apart, and before it did that it stopped producing power, have a 110w hard mount and its going great, cant complain i brought a CTEK D250SA through them for $300 where as Repco charge $900 for the same thing
Might want to check out why the voltage is so high? Could cause some issues if it keeps charging that high.
All your cables coming through the back door, do you get much water in when it rains?
Legit been looking at doing a solar top up system to just extend the battery like what you did. Good to know the cheaper stuff will do just that.
Thanks blunt! Yeah hope it helped!!
Thank you !!
Another very informative and useful video .
Thanks David!!
Just got a 80 thanks for the videos
No worries cheers!
It's really difficult to source things that are Aussie made, we got rid of most of our industry long ago
Yeah pretty sad , I reckon we will end up regretting this in the future
@@AussieArvos Regretting it now man
Geez wires all over the shop in that power box, spaghetti Junction
Great job 👌🏼
Just took my 3rd one back today. The first one all lights were working correctly and was charging at 15.6v the other two the solar light wouldn't come on and only put 5.6v into the battery, i upgraded to the mppt kings plus and am waiting for the message to come pick it up fingers crossed I don't have any issues with this one
I apreciate that ur coming from the perspective of an everyday consumer and still making relevant content but i think there is certainly a middle ground of parts that arent top spec but are still reliable and reasonably cost effective. Getting Kings products may work very well for some people but as you mentioned it just comes down to chance if the parts will work or last so really isnt actually adding much value to people considering a solar setup. Im happy if its worked for you but as someone considering doing a solar setup this reviwe doesnt help at all because i have no confidence my $400 will make the same distance yours will.
This was great exactly what I plan to do with solar
Thanks Jack! glad it could help!
You can’t connect the mppt controller straight up to the battery yiu need a dc to dc charger that you can change the setting
You only needed a PWM charge controller in your setup. I don't mean it in an offensive way but you don't understand the difference. With cheaper devices, PWM is generally more reliable because they are less complex, are well proven with time and don't rely on software. If your DC input is close to your DC output, as yours will be, there is no advantage with MPPT. However, if your DC input is aignificantly higher, then yes, you do need an MPPT for best efficency. The quality of charge you get in your battery is down to the poor design of charger or installation. Another tip for vehicle mounted solar PV. If ypu add a second module, ake sure it is compatible. You cant just mix them up (although, in reality ,if its the same voltage and power, it should be okay). Connect them in parrallel. Yes, unless you have gone overboard on cable size( including upgrading the cable the module comes with or keeping the tails very short), you will lose some power due to voltage drop but, if one module is shaded, you are still getting full power out of the other. In this situation a PWM controller wil also work better. This is not the case if they are series connected.
Hey pat, where do you get the motion sensor lighting, gr8 idea. Cheers Steve
true blue
cheap inverter.. Giandel every time.
and a must to over spec, need 1000w? buy 2000w model.
and if you're using an MPPT controller, might as well go a used ex roof panel, can pick up 300+w 42v panels for sfa these days.
Where is Liam when do we get to see you guys make a video
Kings ...Creating landfill since 2012