this video should reach min. 100K views and it should be watched from anyone in the hobby. Again huge respect for your effort and willingness to educate us.
Hey Chris! Great video! I’d just like to add that jerseys and patches do have a difference. This difference is most present in hockey. Patches are parts of logos, numbers, or nameplates on the jersey, and are actual patches. Jersey cards are from any other part of the jersey.
Also, so many newer "relics" are not game used. They are "player worn" which means they may have worn it at a signing or photo shoot for five seconds before swapping out to another one. This is one of the biggest scams by the companies. Topps also does "manufactured relics" which is a mini patch, coin, or something else they make and put on the card.
THANK YOU so much for this video!!! You are the most knowledgeable guy in the hobby. I started my collecting in 1969 when I was 9 yrs old!! I took it back up in the 1980's then didn't start again until about a year ago. Obviously the hobby has changed immensely since then. I'm that guy that asked you about terms and pop reports. Thanks again. Dan
This is way better than how I've been explaining it so this video is now my go to for friends and family that have questions about the hobby. Great video dude
Thank you for this video. I am a girl but love collecting and have learned quite a lot from your site. I listen to it regularly. It is well appreciated.
Looking forward to your next video "Introducing Key Terms in the Modern Used Toyota Camry Hobby" - how do I choose between LE, SE, and XLE - and what even is an SE Nightshade!?
I'm a long time collector and I think its really great your doing this. In the 70s when I was a kid it was easy, now not so much this really helps people great work I love your videos!
I just had my first son, I collected cards as a kid and now I'm getting back into it with the hopes he takes too it. Thanks for updating me on all the new terms. Great content on your channel, subscribed 👍
Heya Chris, I am new to the Sports Card Collecting and Investing world and I really wanted to thank you for putting out this video. It was super helpful! Thanks soo much for all that you do on your channel, you have just gotten yourself another devoted fan and subscriber!
Rookie Auto Patch, yeah I know that one - but I'm still learning some lingo - it keeps on evolving, lol. When I got back into the hobby back in 2016 after a 20-year hiatus I was completely overwhelmed by how much the hobby had changed. I mean I was comfortable with the cards and confident in what I was doing but modern cards were very intimidating, and I really debated myself if I wanted to get involved in the hobby again - at least with modern cards. For a while I was thinking about going back to what I knew best which was vintage cards, and obviously little has changed there outside of more cards being slabbed - learning modern cards was and still somewhat is overwhelming at times, but I enjoy it and although I debated with myself, I really fell in love with the hobby all over again from the second I opened that first pack and pulled an Auston Matthews YG back in 2016.. What really shocked me were the prices, that was a shocker - I had no idea it was possible to pull a $400 card out of a "standard" pack of cards.. I mean when I left the hobby the most valuable card you could typically pull from a pack outside of inserts or parallels was maybe $10-15 bucks, lol and of course that was usually the "key" card of the set, usually a rookie of some sort.... So yeah the investment possibilities were very attractive to me as well after I explored the hobby once I got back into it.. And I really was stunned by some of these modern cards and the values they carry, lol... I mean back in the day if you had a $10 dollar base card from a modern set that was a very desirable card, now it's "meh, the base card is great but do you have the red ruby parallel /99?" lol.
I don't think I had heard the term RPA before, but now I have and I know what it means. But I think there is a difference between a jersey card and a patch card. A patch card has part of a logo or the lettering from the player's jersey, while a jersey card just has the regular jersey material, without any distinguishing marks (aside from a pinstripe from a baseball jersey). Patch cards are usually a lot rarer than jersey cards. For example, at 3:55 of the video, the Gwynn and Marino cards you showed are jersey cards, while the Westbrook is a patch card.
Great info!!...have been thinking about asking you to do this very thing. For someone who has been out of the hobby for 20+ years, this has been a great help!
A couple of quick things: 1. cut auto should have been alongside sticker and on card 2. Redemptions 3. Print run vs serial # 4. eBay 1/1 is diff than 1/1 5. Game used vs event worn (advanced but def a mention) 6. And in general, people don’t even realize topps is a manufacturer and they have multiple products like chrome, finest, flagship, dynasty, etc
way to go on this tutorial vid clip... it serves as reference for us all who collect cards.. I do not subscribe to many channels, but yours I do!!! thanks again
I know the term jersey and patch get used interchangeably but there is a difference between the two. A jersey "patch" is a piece off the actual jersey, where as a patch is letter, number or piece off the logo. So there really should be a moniker for both if its a rookie card, JRPA vs RPA.
Great topic. I needed this class, even though I only collect vintage. I miss the simple days of collecting in the early 80s. So weird that I never heard of Tiffany until recently, I was into collecting DEEP back in 84 85.
I appreciate the list! Hopefully this will help new people! To add to the confusion, some refer to a 'true gem' card requiring four subgrades of 9.5 or better (as you explained) others will refer to a 'true gem' as a card that has four 9.5 subgrades exactly.
Hey Chris thank you so much for explaining the in's and outs of card collecting. You are the only card collector that explains how the card collector business works. Your interest in the business is dear to you. That's why I trust your advice. I have learned so much from listening to your RUclips channel. I have collected cards for many years. But now I have to sell some because I collected to many to store. So if you don't mind I will be picking your brain to what you think about some cards about whether to keep for future grading from grading companies or to just sale raw on eBay. I preciate your expertise. Keep doing what you do brother and for training us rookies of the game. Take care and God bless.
was going to look up what a “Tiffany” was because of one of your previous videos. luckily for me this was my next suggested video. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info video... I can tell you right now that I was using one of the terms really incorrectly lol... someone had told me that RPA meant "Relic Plus Autograph" haha, and it fit to enough of a degree where I never really questioned it. So thank you for saving me from continuing to look like a dumbass in the future :)
Great video! Sorry if I missed this, but during the relic conversation, it would have been great for collectors to understand what "game-worn" vs "player-worn/used" means. Although that could warrant an entire video of its own with all the controversies that have come up around those (example 2014 Flawless Football patches being discovered as player-worn instead of game-used).
Yea, and I'd also like to point out that in hockey there is no such thing as a "game used rookie relic" hence RPA because most hockey rookie cards are issued/released before the player has played an NHL game so all of these "game used relics" are actually "event used" and they will say that on the back of the card.. So in hockey the term RPA can be extremely misleading. It's the 2nd year cards of players that actually feature official NHL game used memorabilia.. Of course you have Leaf ITG (In The Game) that produces hockey cards but they're not officially licensed so they're not technically considered "rookie cards" but they do feature actual game used memorabilia from their career in juniors... Also, I don't even get the point of "event used" - all that means is that a player sat there, put a jersey on for a couple of seconds, took it off then repeated the process..
Good info. I ended up learning a couple of things. A video on investment strategies for beginners would also probably be of interest to a lot of people. I could understand how you might be hesitant to jump into that thicket though.
Great video as always, you may want to do one on the best places to buy cards if you’re a dealer, collector, etc. you mentioned PWCC does theirs on EBay and whatnot but one thing I’ve been trying to learn is the best way to weed out the trash lol. Started buying on Beckett’s marketplace here recently with some success as a collector as well as flipping them.
With base cards you also have sp cards which are part of the complete set, which i hate when you just want a complete base set. Rookie card confusion started in 1981 with the first update set, back then they were known as extended rookie cards and the first base card was known as the true rookie card. Card collecting keeps evolving, some for the good and some for the bad. Nice informational video.
Good job with the information, wish this video was around 3 years ago when I got back into the hobby. I have been thinking about putting together a video on how to identify some vintage cards from the 50s 60s and 70s being theres so many people who have no idea what year card there looking at being no date on back of most cards. You will probably have a better shot doing this being you have an established channel. It would probably help a lot of people. Thanks again for the info
Yea, that's my pet peeve, lol.. Especially when they're showing off these awesome cards and they cant even identify the year? grrrr, drives me nuts.. Look, as far as I'm concerned if they're holding a 1964 Topps Mickey Mantle and they get confused on the year - they don't deserve that card, lol.. smh
I think Jersey and Patch are different know, Jersey is a solid color piece and Patch or Prime Patch is multi colored or multi textured which is way more desirable.
I really needed this! Thanks Chris!! By the way, one collecting term you didn't cover is the conversions to how many Toyota Corolla's a card is worth. How are industry leaders figuring this out? What year is the car? What shape is it in? Is Kelly's Blue Book a good reference for this 🤔? Hahaha! Kidding of course. You're the best Chris. Thanks again.
Glad you did this given the slight rebirth of the industry. like the difference of 1st and RC. You think it is complicated try following pro wrestling 😅. Hopefully we can get updated version of the PSA part every 6 months or so
"1st Bowman" is nothing new at all, the "first____ card" term has been around forever.. FTC, FUD, FFC, FDC, FBC were all terms used back in the day to point out that it was a particular players "first year base card" from that brand, and it can get even more confusing than that, lol.
I'm curious how the term XRC (extended rookie card) fell off throughout the years. For example it seems like the 1985 McGwire which use to be considered an XRC is now his Rc, when the 1987 cards aren't anymore.
There are refactors (and Prizm's) in modern hockey, they can be found in OPC Platinum Products - however they're not called "refractors" they're called "rainbows" but they're the exact same thing. Presumably Topps holds a copyright on the term "refractor"?.. If it matters, O-Pee-Chee (OPC) is just the hockey version of Topps, actually back in the day they used to be the same company/corporation, however presently Upper Deck holds exclusive rights to manufacture hockey cards so they purchased numerous brand names that were major players in the hockey card market and OPC was just one of them.. So yea, in OPC Platinum hockey you can expect to find most of the parallels that can be found in Bowman and Topps in baseball. Refractors, prizm's, pixels etc - they're just called a different name but they're the exact same thing..
What about a personally attained crossover auto like getting both remaining Beastie Boy members to sign a Rod Carew card? Good point on the Kobe auto's with the stickers post death in terms of later values & excellent insight overall.
Is there a term for cards that were sold separately from the base set, like Topps 1955 double headers, 1964 giants and stand ups, 1969-71 super, 1971 greatest moments, etc, and even non-card items like Topps 1956 pins and 1964 and 1971 coins? It would be interesting to see a video on these items as well as vintage Topps inserts like 1961 and 1962 stamps, 1966 rub offs, 1967, 1968, and 1971 posters, etc.
I think most of the non-insert sets were test issues that were only sold in certain areas. I know as a kid collecting in the 70s, I never heard of any Topps products not sold in the regular packs with the base cards. That includes the 1975 minis also.
Your definitely right that most of the 50's to 70's were sold in regional or test areas. I meant they were fun to collect at card stores or shows in the 80's and 90's, before ebay came along. The first non base set I can remember being sold at a convience store were the 1980 supers.
"Rookie Cup" cards is usually a reference to the "Topps All-Rookie Team". Usually "Rookie Cup" cards are not rookies, tho in rare cases they can be.. I mean it's really not an indicator of much.
@@MaidensWorldOfWax I think there are some older rookies that have the "Gold Cup", it's rare tho but you are correct for the most part..Also, as a hockey fan I would call the "Gold Cup" the "Calder Cup/Trophy" because it looks almost identical, lol.. If you're a hockey fan I'm sure you would understand, lol.
Coming into the hobby, it took quite sometime until I understood all that stuff with silver/refractor/insert/parallel and so on...this video comes 2 years to late 🤣
You mentioned the raging on-card/sticker debate, but neglected the equally heated game worn/player worn/not associated with any player or game distinction... Here's one for you, based on my recent find of an apparently authentic, undocumented Kobe "silver" TSC rookie: is it preferable for something to be categorized an "error" / "misprint" or a "press proof" / "test run"?
Only thing I didn’t like was how the part about the on card auto being signed “that year”, that’s only if it’s an autographed issued card. Since of course players can sign a card whenever. Tom Brady for example had autograph issued rookie cards (signed in 2000), he also had a ton of signed rookie cards out there that aren’t auto issued, he just signed them later (after 2000)
Sure, but any non-issued autograph is usually called an "In Person Auto" er IPA - I mean it's not difficult to tell the two apart considering the back says "Congratulations you have received an official autograph of the player depicted on the front of this card. This card has been guaranteed authentic and signed in the presence of an ____ representative or guaranteed authentic by the player himself. Enjoy your card".... If it doesn't say that then usually it's an IPA unless it's an auto from the 90's.
@@Swoop187OG187 there are tons of rookie cards signed when they were a rookie where the back doesn’t say that lol. Back to Brady, like his playoff contenders, and the championship ticket. I was just saying an on card auto being signed the year of the card is obviously false, a card can be signed whenever if it isn’t an auto issued card
@@Jx-gh5pl It is true a player can sign a card at any time, however pack issued auto's don't usually have non-auto parallels the player could sign.. It's not like UD for example just takes a handful of base cards and has a player sign them then inserts them into packs... Sure, back in the 90's there were indeed auto's that didn't have COA's on the back, however they did have features that made it easy to distinguish them as an authentic auto such as serial numbers, die-cuts, different card numbers alternative photos etc.. Point being that the card issued in packs as an auto is different than a card a player could go back and auto... There are no "un-auto'd" versions of the pack inserted auto - if that makes any sense. The cards produced with the intent of being autographed were all autographed.
Just for clarification, new collectors should be aware that "event used" or "player worn/used" and "manufactured relics" are not "game used", and sometimes have absolutely zero connection to the player. Manufacturers have gone so far as to use vague language such as "the relic included in this card is from no specific event or season" wtf does that mean? Personally, if it isnt certified as "game used", I doubt that the player has ever even seen the memorabilia.
The comments should be titled I hate it when: Individuals on Ebay list 80's baseball cards as Tiffany with a dull front and they do not picture the back. Also, something I learned recently not all topps traded are Tiffany. They may have the Tiffany white backs, but not the glossy front. I was typing this before you mentioned Tiffanys😂😂😂 Also, a dealer told me SGC was owned by CGC before they split. Is this true?
But is it an actual RPA?... I'll bet you anything it's not considering it's Upper Deck.. I'd bet anything if you read the back of the card it says "event used" and not "game used"... They still call them RPA's tho for some reason, when 99% of them are not game used at all - at least in hockey which is what I collect and the released dates of UD hockey and basketball products are very similar.
im sorry but i think your mistaken on a point. but nice vid. RPA are only rc cards if they are released as part of the regular set. I dont think that has changed at all. maybe im wrong.
Is submitting a slab to a grading company a thing for the purpose of having the card re-graded hoping to get a better grade or to have the same grade by a more preferred grading company? Like, "PSA, please crack this HGA slab and grade/slab it."
Yea, some collectors/dealers will call a card a "true 1/1" when a card matches the players jersey number - which I get - but I wouldn't call that a "true 1/1". I mean it's cool and all and cards like that do carry a premium however some collectors/dealers will take it too far and portray 1/100 or 100/100 as "significant" when it's really not, sure it's neat but not "super premium" neat. Sure, there are those that collect serial numbered cards that have numbers that are significant to the player like jersey number, or statistics.. I mean I collect mostly hockey and you can indeed fetch a few extra bucks for a Gretzky card that is serial numbered 92/xxxx because that's the all-time single season goals record he set and of course Gretzky cards that are 99/xxxx will sell for a premium as well, because that's Gretzky's jersey number. But yea, there are some out there that will advertise their cards as 1/1's just because it has an unusual number they may find significant... I mean I do kinda think having the first or last of a serial numbered card is kinda cool but it's not something I would go out of my way to look for and not something I would pay an atrocious premium for.. However since we're on the topic of serial numbered cards, I have been working on a collection of serial numbered cards and my goal is to get one of every numbered card from 1 to the highest serial numbered card I can possibly find, lol... Yea, it's kinda stupid but I think it's pretty unique and I'm having fun with it and what's cool is that it doesn't have to be a significant player it can be anything you want just as long as you have an sequential order to it.. You can even do it with a specific player like I have with Gretzky and collect serial numbered Gretzky cards up to his jersey number which is obviously #99 which is obviously the highest number you can wear in all 4 major sports. And I have had some pretty significant offers for my serial numbered Gretzky to /99 collection so collections like that are desired.. And you can get really high end with it and only collect jerseys or even auto's - it's really up to you.. It's just a creative way to collect and a challenge I suppose.
Did you get the PSA e-mail from Joe Orlando?? CRAZY!!!! Do you think losing that 30 years of experience will affect the slab/label consistency moving forward, say 3/5 years? I noticed he highlighted that Nat Turner " has been extremely involved in decision making, especially as it relates to building our infrastructure..." I wonder if there were too many Chefs in the kitchen, as it were. Exciting times nonetheless.... John.
I did see that email. I don't know what sort of impact that will have but if I had to guess, I would guess that Nat Turner wants to make some major changes and PSA will evolve quite a bit over the next few years
Wait, bvg is the same as bgs, just their own slab for vintage cards? Okay, ive actually learned something new here, thats cool. At what years does it start that you dont get a normal bgs slab anymore?
Because of the current prices and shut down, do you feel as though grading with SGC over PSA is the best way to get vintage cards slabbed up and ready for resale?
Tough to say. A lot of people (including me) are basically just waiting to see when PSA reopens and how much they will be charging. SGC is a legit option at the moment.
@@collectorinvestordealer That’s a great point. I’m helping a former teacher slabs and move his stuff… since we’re not at all on a time crunch, I think I’ll advise him to wait for PSA
Hey Chris, ifyou get the time you should make a video of how to sell cards on ebay. Unless you have already. I still see a lot of people putting pictures of them holding the card, sending the card without sleeves, over packaging the card and what not. Sellers, stop putting eBay 1 of 1, it's not real.
Why do cards these days have the same photo on the front of the card and same exact photo on the back? I thought the cards before looked much nicer back in the 1990s and early 2000s when there was some variety to the photos. Are the companies saving money on licensing or just being lazy? Maybe there is another reason, but was wondering why thus is the situation.
Hi Chris. I've got a collection of cards in MINT CONDITION with dozens of Derek Jeter cards as well as a signed jersey by Jeter(Steiner authentic). Is it possible to get a ballpark figure with a few photos as I inherited them from my father who collection for 50 years and many of the cards have never been handled EVER. I'd like to sell them to a collector who will appreciate them as much as my dad did. He loved baseball and even took my mother to a double header at the old Yankee Stadium for a double-header for their honeymoon. Please let me know: THEY ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE CARDS without flaws.
The 1/1's are strange. Yes. Theres only one. But nothing to compare it to. So, the prices are kind of just made up. It just goes by what someone is willing to pay.
The other thing about 1/1s is the market is becoming so diluted with 1/1s that the term is in danger of becoming meaningless. One example is the superfractor parallel of the Trout insert set in 2021 Finest; even though superfractors are all 1/1, there are at least 10 1/1 Trouts in that set, so pulling one is naturally less special.
I have quite a few myself, and it's not just 1/1's either - anything with a low serial number is difficult to place a value on because when there are only a handful there is little data. In those situations I usually look for the most comparable as possible - usually cards that feature the same players. For example: right next to me I have a 17-18 Leaf/ITG Reflections: Wayne Gretzky/Connor McDaivd 3-color duel patch serial numbered 2/2. Now the 1/2 has never been sold online anywhere as far as I know and who knows if it's even been pulled yet, so what I did was attempt to find a comparable Leaf/ITG card featuring both Gretzky and McDavid with a similar serial number, however even then it was difficult and the best I could find was a #/5. And keep in mind considering this is a patch, some patches can be significantly more desirable than others. With this card the McDavid patch is a 3 color patch from the outer rim/border of the Edmonton Oilers main jersey crest, and patch cards from the main crest of a jersey are highly desirable so I went looking for cards that had similar swatches and I did the same for Gretzky which is a swatch from his number, and again I looked for similar Gretzky solo patches then took that information and determined a value based on all of that information - just to give me a ball-park idea of what the cards value was.. But look, I have a pretty good eye and I know what's desirable and the card was valued at what I expected it to be and usually if you're confident in your abilities that's good enough. Besides, when it comes to low serial numbered cards like that I usually put an arbitrary high price on the card and let it sit until I get an offer I'm comfortable with... However I do a lot of trading too and that's where things can get tricky, lol... Trading is tricky anyway because some go by BV and others go by eBay - I do eBay because eBay is an accurate representation of what collectors are willing to pay for a card at that moment.. There is actually a really useful free website out there called CardMavin that collects that data which is really helpful, so yeah check that out..
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this video should reach min. 100K views and it should be watched from anyone in the hobby. Again huge respect for your effort and willingness to educate us.
yeah I recommend this channel to anyone wanting to learn more about the card hobby. overall great knowledge here.
Much needed for 90% of the viewers thank you!!
Loved the Luka Parallel transition you did. Great editing. I also enjoy the still photography. Your inner Ken Burns is showing.
Hey Chris! Great video! I’d just like to add that jerseys and patches do have a difference. This difference is most present in hockey. Patches are parts of logos, numbers, or nameplates on the jersey, and are actual patches. Jersey cards are from any other part of the jersey.
Appreciate that info, I was not really aware of that
Also, so many newer "relics" are not game used. They are "player worn" which means they may have worn it at a signing or photo shoot for five seconds before swapping out to another one. This is one of the biggest scams by the companies. Topps also does "manufactured relics" which is a mini patch, coin, or something else they make and put on the card.
THANK YOU so much for this video!!! You are the most knowledgeable guy in the hobby. I started my collecting in 1969 when I was 9 yrs old!! I took it back up in the 1980's then didn't start again until about a year ago. Obviously the hobby has changed immensely since then. I'm that guy that asked you about terms and pop reports. Thanks again. Dan
Really appreciate that Dan, and cool to hear you have come back to the hobby!
This is way better than how I've been explaining it so this video is now my go to for friends and family that have questions about the hobby. Great video dude
Appreciate that!
Thank you for this video. I am a girl but love collecting and have learned quite a lot from your site. I listen to it regularly. It is well appreciated.
Very cool to hear that and thank you for watching the channel!
Looking forward to your next video "Introducing Key Terms in the Modern Used Toyota Camry Hobby" - how do I choose between LE, SE, and XLE - and what even is an SE Nightshade!?
Haha! Will come out with that video soon :)
Thanks for clearing up the terms👍 communication makes everything easier especially when dealing cards
Video was VERY helpful!!! Even though I have been collecting for years I learned a bunch of what the acronyms mean.
Thank You Chris, as always your content is greatly appreciated.
Excellent video. I feel like it took me years to learn this all on my own. I wish I had seen this video 5 years ago.
I'm a long time collector and I think its really great your doing this. In the 70s when I was a kid it was easy, now not so much this really helps people great work I love your videos!
I just had my first son, I collected cards as a kid and now I'm getting back into it with the hopes he takes too it. Thanks for updating me on all the new terms. Great content on your channel, subscribed 👍
Congrats on your child!
@@collectorinvestordealer I live in Atlanta. Is there any good card shows that come through here?
I dont know the card show circuit in the Atlanta area.
Heya Chris, I am new to the Sports Card Collecting and Investing world and I really wanted to thank you for putting out this video. It was super helpful! Thanks soo much for all that you do on your channel, you have just gotten yourself another devoted fan and subscriber!
Very cool to hear that!
Rookie Auto Patch, yeah I know that one - but I'm still learning some lingo - it keeps on evolving, lol.
When I got back into the hobby back in 2016 after a 20-year hiatus I was completely overwhelmed by how much the hobby had changed. I mean I was comfortable with the cards and confident in what I was doing but modern cards were very intimidating, and I really debated myself if I wanted to get involved in the hobby again - at least with modern cards. For a while I was thinking about going back to what I knew best which was vintage cards, and obviously little has changed there outside of more cards being slabbed - learning modern cards was and still somewhat is overwhelming at times, but I enjoy it and although I debated with myself, I really fell in love with the hobby all over again from the second I opened that first pack and pulled an Auston Matthews YG back in 2016.. What really shocked me were the prices, that was a shocker - I had no idea it was possible to pull a $400 card out of a "standard" pack of cards.. I mean when I left the hobby the most valuable card you could typically pull from a pack outside of inserts or parallels was maybe $10-15 bucks, lol and of course that was usually the "key" card of the set, usually a rookie of some sort.... So yeah the investment possibilities were very attractive to me as well after I explored the hobby once I got back into it.. And I really was stunned by some of these modern cards and the values they carry, lol... I mean back in the day if you had a $10 dollar base card from a modern set that was a very desirable card, now it's "meh, the base card is great but do you have the red ruby parallel /99?" lol.
Up all night eagerly awaiting your arrival. Worth the wait.
I don't think I had heard the term RPA before, but now I have and I know what it means. But I think there is a difference between a jersey card and a patch card. A patch card has part of a logo or the lettering from the player's jersey, while a jersey card just has the regular jersey material, without any distinguishing marks (aside from a pinstripe from a baseball jersey). Patch cards are usually a lot rarer than jersey cards. For example, at 3:55 of the video, the Gwynn and Marino cards you showed are jersey cards, while the Westbrook is a patch card.
Interesting... you might be right about that although thats not the way I understand it (so confusing! :)
Good video. I was just thinking about this at work today. So much jargon to learn since I was a kid buying bubble gum cards.
Very comprehensive and clear. Helped me with the Baseball ones. Ohtani makes me want to start looking into baseball cards.
Great info!!...have been thinking about asking you to do this very thing. For someone who has been out of the hobby for 20+ years, this has been a great help!
A couple of quick things:
1. cut auto should have been alongside sticker and on card
2. Redemptions
3. Print run vs serial #
4. eBay 1/1 is diff than 1/1
5. Game used vs event worn (advanced but def a mention)
6. And in general, people don’t even realize topps is a manufacturer and they have multiple products like chrome, finest, flagship, dynasty, etc
way to go on this tutorial vid clip... it serves as reference for us all who collect cards.. I do not subscribe to many channels, but yours I do!!! thanks again
Appreciate that, thank you
I love these type of videos, Chris. Your “grading the graders” series is one of my all time faves followed by the 1933 Goudey set vid. Thank you!
I have been a collector but mainly vintage for 33 years. Did not know the term RPA.. Nice presentation.
I know the term jersey and patch get used interchangeably but there is a difference between the two. A jersey "patch" is a piece off the actual jersey, where as a patch is letter, number or piece off the logo. So there really should be a moniker for both if its a rookie card, JRPA vs RPA.
Great topic. I needed this class, even though I only collect vintage. I miss the simple days of collecting in the early 80s. So weird that I never heard of Tiffany until recently, I was into collecting DEEP back in 84 85.
Appreciate the video as someone getting back into cards
I appreciate the list! Hopefully this will help new people! To add to the confusion, some refer to a 'true gem' card requiring four subgrades of 9.5 or better (as you explained) others will refer to a 'true gem' as a card that has four 9.5 subgrades exactly.
Hey Chris thank you so much for explaining the in's and outs of card collecting. You are the only card collector that explains how the card collector business works. Your interest in the business is dear to you. That's why I trust your advice. I have learned so much from listening to your RUclips channel. I have collected cards for many years. But now I have to sell some because I collected to many to store. So if you don't mind I will be picking your brain to what you think about some cards about whether to keep for future grading from grading companies or to just sale raw on eBay. I preciate your expertise. Keep doing what you do brother and for training us rookies of the game. Take care and God bless.
Thank you, I really appreciate that
loving the channel, Chris---learning lots, thank you!
Gr8 informative video and content Chris.. Thank you for sharing all these nuances in the sports card hobby.. Well done again.. Stay safe all..👍💕🔥⚾🇺🇸😷
Clarification is key in this evolving hobby. Thanks.
Clear and precise explanations - Thank you.
Chris taking us to school 🏫 listen up people!
Thanks Chris!
Excellent information!
I also knew all but that dang Rpa! Thanks for a great video!!
was going to look up what a “Tiffany” was because of one of your previous videos. luckily for me this was my next suggested video. Thanks for the info!
Excellent work 🤩
Wonderful show, thanks.
Thanks for the info video... I can tell you right now that I was using one of the terms really incorrectly lol... someone had told me that RPA meant "Relic Plus Autograph" haha, and it fit to enough of a degree where I never really questioned it. So thank you for saving me from continuing to look like a dumbass in the future :)
Great video! Sorry if I missed this, but during the relic conversation, it would have been great for collectors to understand what "game-worn" vs "player-worn/used" means. Although that could warrant an entire video of its own with all the controversies that have come up around those (example 2014 Flawless Football patches being discovered as player-worn instead of game-used).
Great point on that! Often can be confusing.
Yea, and I'd also like to point out that in hockey there is no such thing as a "game used rookie relic" hence RPA because most hockey rookie cards are issued/released before the player has played an NHL game so all of these "game used relics" are actually "event used" and they will say that on the back of the card.. So in hockey the term RPA can be extremely misleading. It's the 2nd year cards of players that actually feature official NHL game used memorabilia.. Of course you have Leaf ITG (In The Game) that produces hockey cards but they're not officially licensed so they're not technically considered "rookie cards" but they do feature actual game used memorabilia from their career in juniors...
Also, I don't even get the point of "event used" - all that means is that a player sat there, put a jersey on for a couple of seconds, took it off then repeated the process..
Awesome video truly appreciated
Thank you for the information. I’d have learnt more!
Fantastic video - super helpful.
Thank you so much for this really.
I am intrigued by your "keepers" box.
Good info. I ended up learning a couple of things.
A video on investment strategies for beginners would also probably be of interest to a lot of people. I could understand how you might be hesitant to jump into that thicket though.
Great video as always, you may want to do one on the best places to buy cards if you’re a dealer, collector, etc. you mentioned PWCC does theirs on EBay and whatnot but one thing I’ve been trying to learn is the best way to weed out the trash lol. Started buying on Beckett’s marketplace here recently with some success as a collector as well as flipping them.
Thats a great idea for a video, something I will consider.
Thank you. This was very helpful! Could you do a video explaining the different types of boxes next? There are so many it’s confusing.
Thats a good idea, I'll consider that.
With base cards you also have sp cards which are part of the complete set, which i hate when you just want a complete base set. Rookie card confusion started in 1981 with the first update set, back then they were known as extended rookie cards and the first base card was known as the true rookie card. Card collecting keeps evolving, some for the good and some for the bad. Nice informational video.
Great point. The term "SP" can be confusing
Good job with the information, wish this video was around 3 years ago when I got back into the hobby. I have been thinking about putting together a video on how to identify some vintage cards from the 50s 60s and 70s being theres so many people who have no idea what year card there looking at being no date on back of most cards. You will probably have a better shot doing this being you have an established channel. It would probably help a lot of people. Thanks again for the info
Appreciate that. Good idea for a video, I will consider something like that
Yea, that's my pet peeve, lol.. Especially when they're showing off these awesome cards and they cant even identify the year? grrrr, drives me nuts.. Look, as far as I'm concerned if they're holding a 1964 Topps Mickey Mantle and they get confused on the year - they don't deserve that card, lol.. smh
@@Swoop187OG187 it happens all the time, drives me nuts.
I think Jersey and Patch are different know, Jersey is a solid color piece and Patch or Prime Patch is multi colored or multi textured which is way more desirable.
I really needed this! Thanks Chris!!
By the way, one collecting term you didn't cover is the conversions to how many Toyota Corolla's a card is worth. How are industry leaders figuring this out? What year is the car? What shape is it in? Is Kelly's Blue Book a good reference for this 🤔? Hahaha! Kidding of course. You're the best Chris. Thanks again.
Haha! That might be a future video topic :)
Glad you did this given the slight rebirth of the industry. like the difference of 1st and RC. You think it is complicated try following pro wrestling 😅. Hopefully we can get updated version of the PSA part every 6 months or so
"1st Bowman" is nothing new at all, the "first____ card" term has been around forever.. FTC, FUD, FFC, FDC, FBC were all terms used back in the day to point out that it was a particular players "first year base card" from that brand, and it can get even more confusing than that, lol.
Very helpful thank you Guy, lol preciate you Chris
I think that SSP means super short print numbered to /25 or lower!
Great video!
I'm curious how the term XRC (extended rookie card) fell off throughout the years. For example it seems like the 1985 McGwire which use to be considered an XRC is now his Rc, when the 1987 cards aren't anymore.
There are refactors (and Prizm's) in modern hockey, they can be found in OPC Platinum Products - however they're not called "refractors" they're called "rainbows" but they're the exact same thing. Presumably Topps holds a copyright on the term "refractor"?.. If it matters, O-Pee-Chee (OPC) is just the hockey version of Topps, actually back in the day they used to be the same company/corporation, however presently Upper Deck holds exclusive rights to manufacture hockey cards so they purchased numerous brand names that were major players in the hockey card market and OPC was just one of them..
So yea, in OPC Platinum hockey you can expect to find most of the parallels that can be found in Bowman and Topps in baseball. Refractors, prizm's, pixels etc - they're just called a different name but they're the exact same thing..
As always, great content! Keep it up!
What about a personally attained crossover auto like getting both remaining Beastie Boy members to sign a Rod Carew card? Good point on the Kobe auto's with the stickers post death in terms of later values & excellent insight overall.
Great information.
I needed this. Thanks
Relic and jersey does not always mean game used. A lot of people I know also don’t call parallels rookie cards.
Hope to get to meet you at the National in a couple weeks!
I'll be there!
@@collectorinvestordealer Awesome. I fly in Thurs evening & fly out Sat at 1pm, but I’ll have all-day Friday. I’m excited - my first National!!😃
It should be amazing. Make sure to get tickets in advance. They appear to be selling out.
@@collectorinvestordealer Thanks. For sure - got my tix in hand & my ticket for Pete Rose too!😁
Best sportscard channel on youtube, love this channel. I had no idea card companies stock up on the sticker autos, thanks for the info!
They do the same ploy in book collecting. They call it a bookplate. And I don't even consider buying a book with one
Saw you get those Cal base, insert, parallel cards in there. Cal doesn't get the Love he deserves, just came to work everyday and played hard.
What? he's probably one of the most collected baseball players in general.. There is no shortage of collectors that PC Ripken.
Yeah, I suppose it can be confusing for new people. For example, I just pulled a Burrow RPA in a break, going to send it to PSA, then PWCC. 🤣🤣
Haha!
Is there a term for cards that were sold separately from the base set, like Topps 1955 double headers, 1964 giants and stand ups, 1969-71 super, 1971 greatest moments, etc, and even non-card items like Topps 1956 pins and 1964 and 1971 coins? It would be interesting to see a video on these items as well as vintage Topps inserts like 1961 and 1962 stamps, 1966 rub offs, 1967, 1968, and 1971 posters, etc.
The only term I can think of for those sort of sets is "oddball" but that doesn't really work exactly
Those are all great sets, fun to collect and probably more rare than the standard sets.
I think most of the non-insert sets were test issues that were only sold in certain areas. I know as a kid collecting in the 70s, I never heard of any Topps products not sold in the regular packs with the base cards. That includes the 1975 minis also.
Your definitely right that most of the 50's to 70's were sold in regional or test areas. I meant they were fun to collect at card stores or shows in the 80's and 90's, before ebay came along. The first non base set I can remember being sold at a convience store were the 1980 supers.
Thank you! Can someone please tell me about "rookie cup" baseball cards. Are they basically the verified first second year cards?
"Rookie Cup" cards is usually a reference to the "Topps All-Rookie Team". Usually "Rookie Cup" cards are not rookies, tho in rare cases they can be.. I mean it's really not an indicator of much.
My rule of thumb has been, its their second year card.
@@MaidensWorldOfWax I think there are some older rookies that have the "Gold Cup", it's rare tho but you are correct for the most part..Also, as a hockey fan I would call the "Gold Cup" the "Calder Cup/Trophy" because it looks almost identical, lol.. If you're a hockey fan I'm sure you would understand, lol.
@@Swoop187OG187 Grew up with an AHL team in my town, so yep it certainly does!!
Coming into the hobby, it took quite sometime until I understood all that stuff with silver/refractor/insert/parallel and so on...this video comes 2 years to late 🤣
Chris, I hope you realize what a treasure you are to card collectors.
Good stuff!
You mentioned the raging on-card/sticker debate, but neglected the equally heated game worn/player worn/not associated with any player or game distinction... Here's one for you, based on my recent find of an apparently authentic, undocumented Kobe "silver" TSC rookie: is it preferable for something to be categorized an "error" / "misprint" or a "press proof" / "test run"?
Only thing I didn’t like was how the part about the on card auto being signed “that year”, that’s only if it’s an autographed issued card. Since of course players can sign a card whenever. Tom Brady for example had autograph issued rookie cards (signed in 2000), he also had a ton of signed rookie cards out there that aren’t auto issued, he just signed them later (after 2000)
Sure, but any non-issued autograph is usually called an "In Person Auto" er IPA - I mean it's not difficult to tell the two apart considering the back says "Congratulations you have received an official autograph of the player depicted on the front of this card. This card has been guaranteed authentic and signed in the presence of an ____ representative or guaranteed authentic by the player himself. Enjoy your card".... If it doesn't say that then usually it's an IPA unless it's an auto from the 90's.
@@Swoop187OG187 there are tons of rookie cards signed when they were a rookie where the back doesn’t say that lol. Back to Brady, like his playoff contenders, and the championship ticket. I was just saying an on card auto being signed the year of the card is obviously false, a card can be signed whenever if it isn’t an auto issued card
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It is true a player can sign a card at any time, however pack issued auto's don't usually have non-auto parallels the player could sign.. It's not like UD for example just takes a handful of base cards and has a player sign them then inserts them into packs... Sure, back in the 90's there were indeed auto's that didn't have COA's on the back, however they did have features that made it easy to distinguish them as an authentic auto such as serial numbers, die-cuts, different card numbers alternative photos etc.. Point being that the card issued in packs as an auto is different than a card a player could go back and auto... There are no "un-auto'd" versions of the pack inserted auto - if that makes any sense. The cards produced with the intent of being autographed were all autographed.
Learn something everyday 👍
Just for clarification, new collectors should be aware that "event used" or "player worn/used" and "manufactured relics" are not "game used", and sometimes have absolutely zero connection to the player. Manufacturers have gone so far as to use vague language such as "the relic included in this card is from no specific event or season" wtf does that mean? Personally, if it isnt certified as "game used", I doubt that the player has ever even seen the memorabilia.
The comments should be titled I hate it when: Individuals on Ebay list 80's baseball cards as Tiffany with a dull front and they do not picture the back. Also, something I learned recently not all topps traded are Tiffany. They may have the Tiffany white backs, but not the glossy front. I was typing this before you mentioned Tiffanys😂😂😂
Also, a dealer told me SGC was owned by CGC before they split. Is this true?
Haha, so true on the ebay tiffany listings. I dont believe SGC was ever owned by CGC.
Thank you for the clarification. Where do I email submissions for regular rollers? Just curious thank you.
The instructions are in the description of each regular rollers video.
Thank you I didn't know. I just followed the instructions.
Does psa/bgs etc label every tiffany card?
Yes, they label all the tiffany cards
I have a SPx Chris Paul RPA RC numbered 1/50. No big deal to you card titans but it's big for me.
But is it an actual RPA?... I'll bet you anything it's not considering it's Upper Deck.. I'd bet anything if you read the back of the card it says "event used" and not "game used"... They still call them RPA's tho for some reason, when 99% of them are not game used at all - at least in hockey which is what I collect and the released dates of UD hockey and basketball products are very similar.
Variations are also a type of card👊🏽👊🏽
Good one, i should have included that
im sorry but i think your mistaken on a point. but nice vid. RPA are only rc cards if they are released as part of the regular set. I dont think that has changed at all. maybe im wrong.
Is submitting a slab to a grading company a thing for the purpose of having the card re-graded hoping to get a better grade or to have the same grade by a more preferred grading company? Like, "PSA, please crack this HGA slab and grade/slab it."
People submit cards in slabs to different companies for both reasons you mentioned.
I hate when sellers list a serial card as a 1 of 1 when it has many of serial number versions. I get it, you have the only 10/100, but who cares...lol
Ha! That is frustrating..
I think it only matters if it’s #1 of the count or jersey number
@@tipsybreaks9249 the concept is speculating.. as in I speculate this serial number is worth more than that one based on this or that fact
@@tipsybreaks9249 Ive seen 69 sell for more than others .. people are idiots lol
Yea, some collectors/dealers will call a card a "true 1/1" when a card matches the players jersey number - which I get - but I wouldn't call that a "true 1/1". I mean it's cool and all and cards like that do carry a premium however some collectors/dealers will take it too far and portray 1/100 or 100/100 as "significant" when it's really not, sure it's neat but not "super premium" neat. Sure, there are those that collect serial numbered cards that have numbers that are significant to the player like jersey number, or statistics.. I mean I collect mostly hockey and you can indeed fetch a few extra bucks for a Gretzky card that is serial numbered 92/xxxx because that's the all-time single season goals record he set and of course Gretzky cards that are 99/xxxx will sell for a premium as well, because that's Gretzky's jersey number.
But yea, there are some out there that will advertise their cards as 1/1's just because it has an unusual number they may find significant... I mean I do kinda think having the first or last of a serial numbered card is kinda cool but it's not something I would go out of my way to look for and not something I would pay an atrocious premium for..
However since we're on the topic of serial numbered cards, I have been working on a collection of serial numbered cards and my goal is to get one of every numbered card from 1 to the highest serial numbered card I can possibly find, lol... Yea, it's kinda stupid but I think it's pretty unique and I'm having fun with it and what's cool is that it doesn't have to be a significant player it can be anything you want just as long as you have an sequential order to it.. You can even do it with a specific player like I have with Gretzky and collect serial numbered Gretzky cards up to his jersey number which is obviously #99 which is obviously the highest number you can wear in all 4 major sports. And I have had some pretty significant offers for my serial numbered Gretzky to /99 collection so collections like that are desired.. And you can get really high end with it and only collect jerseys or even auto's - it's really up to you.. It's just a creative way to collect and a challenge I suppose.
Great Info especially for NOOBs
Did you get the PSA e-mail from Joe Orlando?? CRAZY!!!! Do you think losing that 30 years of experience will affect the slab/label consistency moving forward, say 3/5 years? I noticed he highlighted that Nat Turner " has been extremely involved in decision making, especially as it relates to building our infrastructure..." I wonder if there were too many Chefs in the kitchen, as it were. Exciting times nonetheless.... John.
I did see that email. I don't know what sort of impact that will have but if I had to guess, I would guess that Nat Turner wants to make some major changes and PSA will evolve quite a bit over the next few years
Wait, bvg is the same as bgs, just their own slab for vintage cards? Okay, ive actually learned something new here, thats cool. At what years does it start that you dont get a normal bgs slab anymore?
The Beckett cutoff is 1980.
1980 and older is BVG
1981 to present is BGS
Photo variations would be a base parallel right?
They actually sort of fit into another category. Variations. Although they could also just be considered base cards.
Because of the current prices and shut down, do you feel as though grading with SGC over PSA is the best way to get vintage cards slabbed up and ready for resale?
Tough to say. A lot of people (including me) are basically just waiting to see when PSA reopens and how much they will be charging. SGC is a legit option at the moment.
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That’s a great point. I’m helping a former teacher slabs and move his stuff… since we’re not at all on a time crunch, I think I’ll advise him to wait for PSA
Which is more valuable: parallels or inserts?
That would be tough to generalize in my opinion. You’ll regularly find some of each occupying the top sales spots.
It all depends on which cards you are talking about. Could be either one.
Chris or any other vintage baseball guy…what ‘discount’ would you expect for a vintage sgc 8 or 9 when compared to its psa equivalent?
It varies heavily from card to card but as a general rule, the SGC may be worth about 50% of the PSA
@@collectorinvestordealer figured it would vary, but that's very helpful to have a rough 'anchor' number, thanks!
How to tell difference between original card and fake?
Hey Chris, ifyou get the time you should make a video of how to sell cards on ebay. Unless you have already. I still see a lot of people putting pictures of them holding the card, sending the card without sleeves, over packaging the card and what not. Sellers, stop putting eBay 1 of 1, it's not real.
Appreciate that, I actually have that in my queue of video ideas (although the queue has gotten quite long!)
@@collectorinvestordealer I figure that's what happens when you have an awesome channel. I know I look forward to your videos.
Guy sounds like my 8th grade history teacher but great info buddy...
Why do cards these days have the same photo on the front of the card and same exact photo on the back? I thought the cards before looked much nicer back in the 1990s and early 2000s when there was some variety to the photos. Are the companies saving money on licensing or just being lazy? Maybe there is another reason, but was wondering why thus is the situation.
Good question, I am not really sure.
Hi Chris. I've got a collection of cards in MINT CONDITION with dozens of Derek Jeter cards as well as a signed jersey by Jeter(Steiner authentic). Is it possible to get a ballpark figure with a few photos as I inherited them from my father who collection for 50 years and many of the cards have never been handled EVER. I'd like to sell them to a collector who will appreciate them as much as my dad did. He loved baseball and even took my mother to a double header at the old Yankee Stadium for a double-header for their honeymoon. Please let me know: THEY ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE CARDS without flaws.
Feel free to email me at sewallsportscards@gmail.com
The 1/1's are strange. Yes. Theres only one. But nothing to compare it to. So, the prices are kind of just made up. It just goes by what someone is willing to pay.
The other thing about 1/1s is the market is becoming so diluted with 1/1s that the term is in danger of becoming meaningless. One example is the superfractor parallel of the Trout insert set in 2021 Finest; even though superfractors are all 1/1, there are at least 10 1/1 Trouts in that set, so pulling one is naturally less special.
So whats wrong with that? At the end its allways the most someone wnats to pay for it. 🤷
I have quite a few myself, and it's not just 1/1's either - anything with a low serial number is difficult to place a value on because when there are only a handful there is little data. In those situations I usually look for the most comparable as possible - usually cards that feature the same players.
For example: right next to me I have a 17-18 Leaf/ITG Reflections: Wayne Gretzky/Connor McDaivd 3-color duel patch serial numbered 2/2. Now the 1/2 has never been sold online anywhere as far as I know and who knows if it's even been pulled yet, so what I did was attempt to find a comparable Leaf/ITG card featuring both Gretzky and McDavid with a similar serial number, however even then it was difficult and the best I could find was a #/5. And keep in mind considering this is a patch, some patches can be significantly more desirable than others. With this card the McDavid patch is a 3 color patch from the outer rim/border of the Edmonton Oilers main jersey crest, and patch cards from the main crest of a jersey are highly desirable so I went looking for cards that had similar swatches and I did the same for Gretzky which is a swatch from his number, and again I looked for similar Gretzky solo patches then took that information and determined a value based on all of that information - just to give me a ball-park idea of what the cards value was..
But look, I have a pretty good eye and I know what's desirable and the card was valued at what I expected it to be and usually if you're confident in your abilities that's good enough. Besides, when it comes to low serial numbered cards like that I usually put an arbitrary high price on the card and let it sit until I get an offer I'm comfortable with... However I do a lot of trading too and that's where things can get tricky, lol... Trading is tricky anyway because some go by BV and others go by eBay - I do eBay because eBay is an accurate representation of what collectors are willing to pay for a card at that moment.. There is actually a really useful free website out there called CardMavin that collects that data which is really helpful, so yeah check that out..
@@Swoop187OG187 my thesis was not as long as that text, wow
(whispers) that's kind of how all cards work, they are only worth what somebody will pay.