Asus 4090 cracked PCB horror Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Respect for taking on these complex repairs, keep up the good work!
will do 🙂
@@northwestrepairthese repairs 99% techs would never even touch. Much respect
complex repairs.... uh huh, on a stiffener rib... no electronics there lol... why you dont see any copper striations..there's no contacts to take the, to....
look in your eide port there's no pin it the side lol its just to pin the card down with the slider that foes over it
@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk what are you talking about??
@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk you obviously missed the line the crack went through
This is masterful repair work here. Huge respect for putting so much effort into saving the patient. :)
I'm in absolute awe of your skill. Dude, you're like the best in the world at this.
I can't believe how small everything is, you're literally comparing a hair to one of the wires... amazing work man, press that like button people
This guy has the patience, dedication and comedy of a high profile serial killer
lmao honestly need to be a psycho to spend so many hours doing a repair on a 600$ device for only a couple hundred bucks..
@@stevebanning902 A 4090 costs 2k.
@@watchmen22 A broken and used 4090? lmao nah
@@stevebanning902 But what it's worth after it's fixed? You're saying it's not worth fixing but It's absolutely worth trying to fix it. Especially 4090s with a cracked PCB at that spot which so common.
@@watchmen22 probably about $600 lmao like I said. No one wants to buy a refurbed 2000$ GPU
Give this to Northridge fix and he would say no fix without even starting the repair :D You are the gpu repair master my friend. BTW, gorilla glue is not one of the best epoxies, there are way better ones available.
They won't fix it cause the cost will be at least $500
Exactly... northbridge replacing only shorted cap and mosfets
On the 3 vs 4 connector adapter: Each connector is rated for 150W. Base model 4090 are rated for 450W, so 3 connectors are enough. Some higher tier cards are rated for more power, so they need a 4th connector to supply all that power. The 4 tiny pins on the side are for the card to detect how many connectors are actually plugged in, so plugging just 3 cables into the 4 connector adapter will limit the card to 450W mode.
What about the 75w from the pcie slot?
@@Jasontvnd9 on the big cards the major components usually run fully off the cable. The slot power may be used for stuff like fans, LEDs, possibly audio controllers, HDMI/DP encoders etc.
You can't just combine the power from the slot with the power from the cable, and dynamically switching based on load is very complicated, so it's easier to just run everything off the cable. Lower end cards might run the core off the cable, but the memory off the slot, to spread the load a little more and not require too many extra connectors.
theres no pins on that tab, its the lockdown tab... great job fooling everyone but a pctech of 25_ years :-)
@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk Lol. Good one. 25 minutes?
Also most cards unless youre talking a modem or some Wi-Fi adapter tend to have dedicated power adapters so as to assure the device is powered correctly regardless of the load on the board or cpu. Kind of a cover our asses clause built in to the component. At least since pcb slots have become more versatile in the type of hardware they can accommodate. However we see what happens when your ass covering design dept gets complacent
Wow man, that's a serious deep dive in to that board. Mad respect, my hands would shake too much to do that kind of work. Truly amazing you can even fix such complicated multi layer boards like that. True talent : )
Amazing work and dedication, thank you for the content.
A tomshardware article mistakenly referred to this video as the other guy's video 😂😂
Clearly NWR is the best!
This kind of repair shows how intelligent and capable you are. Thanks for all the work and sharing your experience
Great RESPECT for this repair m8👍👍👍👍
GREAT REPAIR!! YOU ARE THE NUMBER ONE GPU REPAIR MAN!! WOW SO GOOD
I am not a repair guy or anything related , I can't even buy a modern graphics card but I watch your entire videos, enjoy them and generally find them entertaining
I like how they put their logo right next to the part that cracks.
its the card retention tab.. no electronics in it lol
@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk No electronic components, but on multi-layer board this kind of crack creates huge problem, and that is why the wires are essential he put in. And the way he laid them is essential too. PCI-E protocol is very strict on timing. Basically all the connections in the PCI-E slot must be exactly the same length, otherwise the protocol doesn't work. Latency isn't a problem, and this is why something like riser card can work. One could say that yes, there are no electronics in that tab, but there are signals running in the copper layers inside that tab. The phase difference the crack created in this particular card propably messed up relative timing of the signals, so some signals took longer to go around that crack made the card non-functional.
@@jarivuorinen3878The crack probably also shorted a bunch of power planes.
i cant believe the precision and patience required to accomplish this. and i watched the whole dang video. WELL DONE! that was amazing to see the picture come up! Congrats!
Got to admit, not many technicians would even touch a gpu with a cracked pcb maybe because they have no idea on how to fix them,this man goes the whole nine yards and proves that damages like this can be fixed.
He never let time beat him and soldiered on. You my friend are a legend and deserve alot more subscriber's,
You should be proud of yourself 😊
Consider yourself a wizard in your own right! Truly a MasterClass. Re reinforcing the crack, wondering if using some tiny strips of extra fine fiberglass and resin? (Just like my surfing days repairing boards ,,, back in the '60s mind you ...HA). Just a thought.
Great stuff, another epic production, a sprawling story of struggle and final victory, overcoming every obstacle before you.
The community of the tech addicted thanks you.
It is 11:45pm on Christmas Eve and I had nothing better to do with myself than watch the man, the myth, the legend that is Tony repairing a huge effing crack on some Texan’s 4090, both the first part and second part, you are truely awesome Sir, this is certainly a change of pace from the 20 - 40 minute videos, every now and then longer videos like this are a great idea so others can appreciate the lengths that you go to in order to find a fix for your customers, Merry Christmas to you Tony :)
Indeed! We did watch the whole thing! And by god was this a complex repair, but we enjoyed every last second of it. Keep up the good work man, you got my massive respect for embarking on this difficult project!!
Just like watching "slow TV". Nice n' relaxing
Amazing repair.
I really enjoy watching your videos. I know absolutely nothing about electronics whatsoever, but it's easy to recognize skill when you see it.
Your videos were the main reason why I didn't buy a Gigabyte card this time around.
Yes I watched the whole thing in this video and I thank you. You are a wizard Tony
I’am so proud of you !! You have been helping and teaching us so much. And you have been good to people. Please keep up the amazing work!! ❤
I didn't learn shit. Just admiring his skills is rewarding enough.
FYI, CW2500 is great epoxy for these kind of cracks. It won't soften as the card heats up like regular 2 part epoxy.
Wrong. Properly treated epoxy will harden, not soften when heated. Final hardness after initial curing is achieved by curing the epoxy in 60-100 celsius, but after the baking epoxy can handle higher temperatures. Of course there are many different formulations for different use cases that have bit different chemistry going on, but the process is the same for all epoxies. Even PCB has epoxy as matrix, and this guy on the video bakes these boards for extended time in 200 celsius and even more when soldering, and PCB can handle it just fine.
defenetly a true electronic god keep it up im so glad yt bring me here
Watched all of this fix. You are a very amazing person with great skill. Legendary. Thank you for sharing your abilities with us.
We know how happy you are. We watched the entire thing and was along for the ride! You're amazing
Man your repairs are Inspiring to me😮
I need to know, which game do you like more:
"Where is my solder?" or "Is that wire or is that hair?"
This is awesome work, thanks for sharing!
I watched it all. You did some pretty good work there and got a good end result. However, the hook down there is always going to be very weak and any future impacts could still worsen the situation. But, you got the job done!
"It semms pretty easy" my mind goes automatically "GO PRACTICE RIGHT NOW YOU LAZY" and after "I dont know how im doing this" Pure amounts of skill and practice, nice and fine work there Sr! Greetings from Argentina
I have never seen a better repair, huge respect, you are fucking awesome!!
I always sleep watching your videos, thank you for helping me.
That was some next level stuff right there. This, like anything done well and with dedication, is an inspiration.
900 FPS on FurMark 🤣. Great save, though, seriously. Keep up the good work.
This would look so much different in the microscope in stereo, I always find things easier when everything is in 3D. Cameras don't do your work justice. 😂
I watched the whole thing and it was awesome! Amazing work as always mate 👍
Amazing work as always bud. Yes I watched the whole vid lol. One of my coworkers leaned over my shoulder and was like that guys good 👍
Awesome ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Longest RUclips video I have ever watched, I enjoyed 🤩🤩🤩
You have done tremendous work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Keep it up 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I love your videos, they show me with the right knowledge and the proper amount of patience you can fix anything if you just take your time and do solid work
I kind of randomly ran across your channel and started watching a lot of your videos. After this one, I'm convinced that you could create a 4090 from scratch!
Hey ballz master ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Waiting to see next part.
Awsome repair skills man!great job!thank you for sharing...i always enjoy watching your repair videos
Fantastic work!! You asked why there's 4 wires for the 4090. There are the 8 main pins and 4 small since pins. If the card senses that there is only 3 cables plugged in . The card will limit the the amount of power available to the card. If it senses all 4 main power cables plugged in. It will allow for the full 600 watts to be available. That includes the 75watts or so from the PCIE lain. Nvidia has a video and so does Jay's Two sense. They show how the sense pins do what they do to protect the card and the stupid plug they started using.
Thank you for all your videos! I'm going to tool up and start learning myself. You help tremendously and im very thankful for you putting all the time in and sharing your ways.
love to see the satisfaction of doing an hard task that have little chance of success, keep up the good work !
congrats dude, this is some serious stuff youre doing there
You're an artist man!
Great job on this one. Spundtracks are awesome! Really get ya in the right headspace for this type work!
Ahh yes! Have been waiting for this with anticipation!
11:57 that heart on the inductor pad
amazing repair, waiting for more content, keep up the good work, and also amazing jokes!
This movie is far better than Terminator 42. I don't know what you charge but you certainly earn whatever you charge. Great repair and I'm sure a happy customer.
I've got to hand it to you every other tech would say this is a no repair.. But not you....... You love the challenge you could probably fix almost any electronic repair hats off to you sir
This is amazing! You make me want to get a scrap board and try and see if I can bridge those buried traces like you do! Kudos!
100% retention. Interesting and amazing to say the least. Hope more people get this video suggested
Concerning your expieriences with the hardness of cured epoxy glue, at least with the ones im using, those that take longer to cure are better. The german made UHU Zwei-Komponentenkleber plus endfest 300 is a 12 hour glue that can be cured at up to 180°C for 5 minutes, and gets you a rock hard result. Also on the back of the packaging one can find a chart for curing times at different temperatures and the resulting hardness.
For structural support, I always use some kevlar fibres, I salvage the kevlar contained in fibre patch cables, then using good a pair of scissors, I cut the fine strands into small pieces and incorporate that stuff in the epoxy resin before applying it, It also thickens the epoxy so that it gets less runny when heated.
Bloody great job especially when many will not fix this level of damage. hats off to you, i bet the owner is happy especially with the cost of these cards.
A lot of ppl might not get the real excitement to seeing hard work pay off, cuz some of the time there is no “this is this and that’s that” with heavy damage, so much can go wrong you don’t even see, so when it all falls together …ya it’s like winning the lottery lol 🤙🏻 badass bro
(I repair car audio comp amps and they can get blown up at times lol)
I recently repaired a Switch I got off ebay for 65 bucks. I wasn't confident at first, especially with doing trace wires. But it's working now and man, it does feel awesome the first moment you power it up and it's working perfectly 😄
@@kulilin3104 that feeling alone is worth it, plus saving money doesn’t hurt too 🤙🏻 good job bro!
Not just good………..wicked good.
Just finished watching Part 1. :D Thanks. :)
4:05 "It's a really TUF call right now".
Nice pun, man.
It lives Igor, it lives! incredible repair sir, you have magic hands.
"That's not a wire, it's a hair". That gave me a whole new sense of scale here. Marvelous job!
Bravo!! Mind boggleing repair.
Great work and video mate, thanks for showing the process it good detail. Now I feel like cracking a board to give it a go 😊. Out of interest what size jumper wires are you using it’s hard to tell when the microscope makes it look huge lol, that small one must be tricky nicely done 👌
You have to have amazingly steady hands to do this type of work. This is so impressive to me.
"All gods doing" Sir you are very humble I respect that! I wish you have what you want in this life.
On such a large core wouldn't it benefit to spread the thermal compound out like icing so that way no area of the core gets missed. Obviously, you know way more when it comes to GPUs but I always frost anything I am putting thermal compound on. Great work and you seem like an incredibly humble guy unlike the other guy.
The spec for PEG8 has a range of acceptable wire gauges. Some of them arn't enough to carry 600W with just two connectors. Since nvidia can't know if you have high gauge or low gauge wire, they have to assume the worst and send dongles with additional connectors.
Amazing video ... you made it look like nothing happened super impressed!
54:56 Great demonstration of how small details you're fixing!
Cracked PCB videos are like horror movies and this one will cause nightmares! Excellent work tho, you handle them like a boss there aren't many people who can especially this much damage, really amazing! I was considering buying 4090 but there is just no way, im not rich enough to throw that much money on something with such a massive issue as cracking. Services would just consider this out of warranty and ''unrepairable'', so stupid..
Loved this and watched the whole thing. Amazon has lint free Q tips in bulk - obviously more expensive than regular but would be good for those situations where you dont want those fibers coming off in your hard work
My guess on the connector question is that the 4 pigtail is probably so you can connect another rail within your power supply. During overclocking that fourth rail probably smooths out the rail at the card level and supplies a higher amount of available current. Transient spikes in that rail could be evened out. Unless you want 600watts it’s probably not required. 450watt bios’sss, bio’ease? whatever the plural word for bios is, is probably not even utilizing that additional rail.
Massive respect, I look at the patient most times and think yeah I could do that, I look at this and I'm like nah, I'll pay for that, and I'm a tight wallet. Don't like paying for anything! But this is one of those times where you bite the bullet and give it too someone with skills, this reminds me of literally surgery.... On humans
Northwestrepair IS like : Nothing is impossible!!!
masakr oprava, jsi hustý BOREC! díky ta ukazku tvého talentu
Awesome repair! I always wonder why you leave the hook in place, especially after this crack. There is no way the epoxy will have the same mechanical strength as the initial board and if the customer forgets to release the safety while pulling on the board there goes your 6 hours of work. Wouldn't it be safer to just ditch the hook for good at this point and use the card without it? There is absolutely no trace left that goes to it anyway...
great work, we have Epoxy here in South Africa called Steenvas... that stuff becomes like a piece of metal
Wow, you weren't kidding. I have to schedule some time to watch this tonight.
The design of the PCI express system needs to be completely redone, it was designed for cards that weighed from a few ounces to a couple of pounds, now some of the cards need an industrial crane to be lifted, and the way it's going I don't see that trend changing anytime soon. Cracked PCBs around the tab will be a dime a dozen in the coming years.
I have a gigabyte 4090 OC edition from launch day. So far the connector has not melted or even shown any signs of issues. I noticed a month or so in, that I had SERIOUS GPU sag. I bought a gpu sag stand and jacked the card up until it was level. I am just realizing now that since I got the GPU stand, I was experiencing occasional random reboots. Only when light duty GPU work was being done. I relieved some of the tension on the card and now have the stand supporting it in a slightly sagging state. Random reboots seem to be alleviated. Long story short, I will keep watching these videos, and I know where to send my card when not if I have a problem. Or my motherboard, whichever gives in first.
Awesome repair videos. You may or may not know 5 minute epoxy dries hard as glass and can crack under extreme vibrations. 15 minute epoxy always stays just slightly flexible. Not that this video card wound undergo any vibrations. I fly R/C airplanes and helicopters and vibrations vs epoxy type make a difference. Just one irrelevant probably useless info for you. I also for a living was an electronic repairman. So I find your videos extremely interesting. You have some real nice equipment too. 👍
Epoxi gives off really nasty fumes if you burn it, it can cause chemical asthma. Might be something to be wary about in your line of work. Good job with the repair!
Great video, great rework. What brand of solder mask do you use to get such a good cure?
the reason for shrinking the pcb even if its in a huge cooler, is that you can get more pcbs in one panel, reducing pick n place and other costs with manufacturing... aka they're cheap
hair is like fiberglass reinforcement in the epoxi LOL anyhow liked for the huge effort bravo dude well done
Great horror movie with happy ending! You are amazing, but I do hope I don't ever need your services :D
Curious. Why didn't you build up the epoxy to try and add some strength where the crack is? Multiple layers thicker than the board can't hurt, can it? Any flexing may break the thin epoxy filler there...
Whata hero! Saved this dead piece of fine hardware. You're a legend dude.
Whatever the owner payed you for this, it was not enough. Respect.
Wow absolutely friggin amazing repair!
I've got a question when you re ball a core would it make sense to run your finger oner the holes on the template after putting the balls in it to make the balls stay in position so when you lift the stencil they stay in place and you don't have to shift them??? love your videos always a thumbs up from me I've learned so much from you
Love this video. It's like watching brain surgery. I can't look away!
Very precise and deep. Question: how about 4V of death and 100R on the AMD boards? Works the same way?
wow this was a tough one. haven't seen anybody else on youtube able to do this deep type of repair yet.
Watched it like a thriller movie haha, keep up the good work, i guess i are on higher level now, nice video mate.
Dont know yet if it succesfull, but who cares, its still good job.
One advice: Drink one beer before u do that kind of jobs its really helps.
JUST ONE! D
You should use fine glass fibre mat/mesh to reinforce epoxy repairs. I've used it to repairs all kinds of things with epoxy and other types of glues with great results.
DDU must be one of your BEST FRIENDS (along with Furmark, CPU-Z, GPU-Z and more)
Literally out of nowhere "I've never done meth" 😂