I love watching these videos on the lathe cleanup so I'm personally glad that you're going to be removing the headstock and doing some clean up on it. Great videos!
I can imagine my last job I was the 'welder'; ..... in a machine shop that repaired a lot of that stuff.......run it until it breaks, then run it some more...then...get someone to fix it....Maybe.....
Your efforts in providing these videos are greatly appreciated by all of us I think. In my case, yours and several others convinced me to by a lathe which lead to saving $1435 on a swather repair for new idler rollers for the draper belts and I had it done before John Degree could get the parts shipped in on the factory stuff. So if you have ever wondered if your videos have made a difference for someone, now you know, they have. Thanks MrPete222!
forgot to add, it was a Southbend model A I bought and probably looks like this on the inside it was in a barn and nearly unidentifiable as a lathe with the dirt, straw and rats nests. The swather was a John Deere model 830 Windrower and a model 78 draper platform. My eccentricity over the 40 inches of the rollers was .008 on the worst one. So once again, thank you for your time and effort
Hola: soy de Argentina y tengo un torno igual a este. muchas veces me saque dudas gracias a tus videos.7 te cuento que mi torno me lo regalo mi jefe hace 15 años . El realmente lo amaba y se tomo el trabajo de recorrer toda la fabrica buscando cada una de la piezas ya que hacia muchos años que no funcionaba. Muchas gracias
Regarding the gib strip on the back of the saddle, my Boxford lathe, which is remarkably like this south bend, mine too was only screwed on slightly, albeit with spring washers. Because I have fitted DRO scales, I used this strip as the mounting point for the X axis reader head, I needed more stability, so I put two grub set screws in the middle of the stip, and adjusted them so the gib was tighter, but having the saddle still sliding nicely. just thought you might be inrterested! cheers again, Dave
I was hoping to see the screw removal. I’m having problems getting mine out and wondering if there is some kind of taper pin I’m not seeing. Found the video, should have know it would be there😂!
Wow - 70 years of crud and neglect, shame to see such a nice old piece of machinery treated like that. But its often satisfying to clean it all up and bring it back to working order. I do it with darn near everything I work on. Starts out as a quick repair and ends up being a refurb job - but again I get a lot of satisfaction bringing something back.
If the screw holes where you attach the wipers are still there, the saddle is not *completely* worn out. (I had a really badly mistreated SB9 where only half the screw holes were still there.)
Mr Pete, great series. I'm rebuilding an old 9" South Bend Lathe and can't seem to get the compound off of the cross slide and you indicated you had previously cleaned your unit. Any words of wisdom, pointer or links on how to get this completed!
I assume the wear on the bead rails and ways creates a misalignment between the head stock and the tail stock. Is this true? How do you fix or compensate for this?
The tail stock on most South Bend lathes does not use the same areas on the ways to register as the saddle. They ride on the inside flat section of the bed. Given the wear on the rest of this machine I would bet the tail stock ways show a lot of wear.
Mr. Tubalcain, thank you for the informative videos. I have been following your clean up series as I "Acquired" a 1941 vintage South Bend model 9A from the San Diego Naval Ship yard. They were going to scrap it for being obsolete in the age of CNC and digital read outs. mine has that "backlash" or movement in the cross slide screw. Is that easily fixed by replacing? or is it a negligable issue? I find it hard to find any information on these old Southbends. Once cleaned up though, what would you recommend for re-lubricating them? Teflon grease or something like white lithium grease or something more viscous. Again thank you for the very informative videos, for a garage hobbyist like me, they are invaluable. The technical school here are dicks about giving info, and ITT is no longer around as of a few weeks ago. So I turn to RUclips University.
Thank you. your model 9 though the bed looks shorter than mine. My bed way measures close to 48". I requested the archive information online and when they sent me a copy of the original invoice, it was addressed to the Department of the Navy. do you have a video that shows the disassembly of the headstock as mentioned in this video or is that in the works. Thanks again Mrpete222
Just a little side note, You recently made a video on how to purchase a South Bend lathe. There is currently a discussion on the practical machinist South Bend bulletin board at, www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/southbend-9c-new-member-327080/ . I feel that some of the information given, may be useful. Unless this lathe was given to him, I'm saddened to say that if this guy had known what to look for, he would've turned and ran away from this machine. although he might be able to get it in a usable condition, I'm not sure that he would not be better off departed out. keep up the good work Mr. Pete. You're doing a great service to everyone. Knowledge is the key to a good life. Joe.
What idiot watched this video and felt the need to give a thumbs down? For the life of me, I can not understand how someone can watch a Tubalcain video and dislike it. If I watched a video from anyone that I didn't care for, I just simply turn it off. I realize not everything is my cup of tea although I have yet to watch Tubalcain video I didn't enjoy.
I've wondered that many times myself, seems like there's always one or two thumbs down. The only thing I can figure is its a couple of his students that failed his class! I love this channel.
In 5-6 years of watching RUclips...I've given maybe 2 thumbs down....and that was for foul language and gross mis-information....usually I just don't watch the stuff I don't like....but I also appreciate the time/effort people go to in making/posting the videos....
Slightly off the topic. You have shown amazing control with not making a political comment on the somewhat frightening situation that may not end next Tuesday. Your You Tube name and the infrequent comments would suggest that you may have some Sunday School connections. This election is concerning to many of the citizens of your Northern Neighbour. Here in Canada, as you may know, we have very different gun control legislation. Removing the guns from the hands of responsible citizens has done nothing to stop the killing that goes on between gangs and criminals and a few others who with very little effort can buy a black-market gun . In the mid 1950s my brother and I bought a .22 rifle and two boxes of .22 shorts. I was 10 years old. We took turns carrying the gun on the mile long walk home. No one complained and we were encouraged to be careful by a few mothers. Here in 2016, my son has had the police called to attend a gun complaint by one of our nosey neighbours, who knows better. My son often goes out to play Air-Soft with his friends on Sunday morning. I am your age and I like you, often long for the better parts of what used to be. There seems to have been some freedom lost for responsible persons and I cannot be convinced that the situation will not get worse in the near future. I am a long time subscriber to your channel. While I watch everything you post, I have to say that the lathe cleaning videos are my least favorite. I understand this instruction may be very important to may persons. I wish for you and your country the best outcome of next Tuesday. Whatever happens your neighbour to the North will be effected in no small measure.
>> " I understand this instruction may be very important to may persons..." Understatement of the year! Ummm...There's a bunch of us down here in the States for which this series of videos is pretty damn useful. It not as though South Bend 9's and 10K's are no longer wanted...quite the opposite really. And not to mention this series also serves the Boxford + the Smart & Brown crowd over in the UK and Europe as well. Not to mention all the South Bend copies in Brazil, Australia; and let's not forget as well as the Blomqvst SouthBend copy, made in Sweden. Give that some thought, Bob Smith.
In Jr high, 1989 my shop teacher wanted to shoot my AR15 and I wanted to borrow his 10 gauge to turkey hunt with so on a Friday I brought my gun to school (in a case) along with ammo, and he brought his. We took them home for the weekend and brought them to trade back on Monday, NOBODY CARED! Now these poor kids are expelled for mentioning a gun. I don't have much hope for the world.
Neat!! In the 80's, the auto teacher & I would bring are 22s to school & have target practice in the shop after the kids left. We would shoot into the foundry sand barrels
Shane K A fellow I know took his gun to class for his Demonstration speech (I think most students do one as a way to learn to do public speeking). His demonstration was "how to clean a gun"
Protrusion and "hammer and chisel mecanic"... This is two classes for the price of one: Machinism and english. Let,s go and ask Trump what are his intends to fight back protrusionnism?
My 1925 southbend loves you , keep on going 😎👍👍
I love watching these videos on the lathe cleanup so I'm personally glad that you're going to be removing the headstock and doing some clean up on it. Great videos!
Awesome video, I really love the dry sense of humor. There is a lot more hammer and chisel mechanics than there are real mechanics in ever profession.
yeah...Harley owners and Machine shop mechanics....!!
You should see the garbage I see as a heavy equipment mechanic.
I can imagine my last job I was the 'welder'; ..... in a machine shop that repaired a lot of that stuff.......run it until it breaks, then run it some more...then...get someone to fix it....Maybe.....
Your efforts in providing these videos are greatly appreciated by all of us I think. In my case, yours and several others convinced me to by a lathe which lead to saving $1435 on a swather repair for new idler rollers for the draper belts and I had it done before John Degree could get the parts shipped in on the factory stuff.
So if you have ever wondered if your videos have made a difference for someone, now you know, they have.
Thanks MrPete222!
forgot to add, it was a Southbend model A I bought and probably looks like this on the inside it was in a barn and nearly unidentifiable as a lathe with the dirt, straw and rats nests. The swather was a John Deere model 830 Windrower and a model 78 draper platform. My eccentricity over the 40 inches of the rollers was .008 on the worst one. So once again, thank you for your time and effort
Thanks--it IS very gratifying that I made a difference!!!!!!!!!
That lathe looks a lot better already. nice work!
As a teenager, I bought something exactly, like your turkey baster with a detailed float in it. It was a hygrometer.
I love your sense of humor.
Hola: soy de Argentina y tengo un torno igual a este. muchas veces me saque dudas gracias a tus videos.7
te cuento que mi torno me lo regalo mi jefe hace 15 años . El realmente lo amaba y se tomo el trabajo de recorrer toda la fabrica buscando cada una de la piezas ya que hacia muchos años que no funcionaba. Muchas gracias
Regarding the gib strip on the back of the saddle, my Boxford lathe, which is remarkably like this south bend, mine too was only screwed on slightly, albeit with spring washers. Because I have fitted DRO scales, I used this strip as the mounting point for the X axis reader head, I needed more stability, so I put two grub set screws in the middle of the stip, and adjusted them so the gib was tighter, but having the saddle still sliding nicely. just thought you might be inrterested! cheers again, Dave
yet another great video.. Thanks for sharing sir....
Mr Pete I just took my saddle apart and the 2 1/2 inch bolts were hand tight also.
This is helpful. I just bought another one !👍
I was hoping to see the screw removal. I’m having problems getting mine out and wondering if there is some kind of taper pin I’m not seeing. Found the video, should have know it would be there😂!
Wow - 70 years of crud and neglect, shame to see such a nice old piece of machinery treated like that. But its often satisfying to clean it all up and bring it back to working order. I do it with darn near everything I work on. Starts out as a quick repair and ends up being a refurb job - but again I get a lot of satisfaction bringing something back.
Interesting video .. Thanks for sharing .. Stay safe...
👍
If the screw holes where you attach the wipers are still there, the saddle is not *completely* worn out. (I had a really badly mistreated SB9 where only half the screw holes were still there.)
I hope that lathe produced parts in a quantity to equal the wear. Sometimes I think the small lathes wear out a lot faster than the large ones.
That is because people abuse them and make too big of a cut and too fast a feed rate for the size lathe.
Unless you have lots lots of money you don't mind spending, its hard to get a perfect
restoration. I'm also cleaning up an old 9 in. Southbend.
Thank you for the video.
Playback settings / Speed / 1.25 Perfect.
my mind is blown. this is my new favorite tool now
You got enough chips outta there to build another lathe. Thanks for the video .
Mr Pete, great series. I'm rebuilding an old 9" South Bend Lathe and can't seem to get the compound off of the cross slide and you indicated you had previously cleaned your unit. Any words of wisdom, pointer or links on how to get this completed!
THANK YOU...for sharing.
By the gib I have a what looks like a brass round piece with a hole in it. Looks like it would have held something
I assume the wear on the bead rails and ways creates a misalignment between the head stock and the tail stock. Is this true? How do you fix or compensate for this?
The tail stock on most South Bend lathes does not use the same areas on the ways to register as the saddle. They ride on the inside flat section of the bed. Given the wear on the rest of this machine I would bet the tail stock ways show a lot of wear.
I "suspect" those two studs / screw holes in the saddle were for a milling attachment
Probably
Thank you.
that alm,piece looks to large for chip, piece of b/x cable ??
Is there a difference between the 10k and the heavy 10 l carriage south bend
It’s hard for me to remember this, since I no longer have the heavy town. But I’m pretty sure they are not the same.
Does kerosene work better than mineral spirits?
Mr. Tubalcain, thank you for the informative videos. I have been following your clean up series as I "Acquired" a 1941 vintage South Bend model 9A from the San Diego Naval Ship yard. They were going to scrap it for being obsolete in the age of CNC and digital read outs. mine has that "backlash" or movement in the cross slide screw. Is that easily fixed by replacing? or is it a negligable issue? I find it hard to find any information on these old Southbends. Once cleaned up though, what would you recommend for re-lubricating them? Teflon grease or something like white lithium grease or something more viscous. Again thank you for the very informative videos, for a garage hobbyist like me, they are invaluable. The technical school here are dicks about giving info, and ITT is no longer around as of a few weeks ago. So I turn to RUclips University.
Should be a good lathe--nice find.
Watch for tips #341 & 342 coming out soon-all about the oils & lubricating
Thank you. your model 9 though the bed looks shorter than mine. My bed way measures close to 48". I requested the archive information online and when they sent me a copy of the original invoice, it was addressed to the Department of the Navy. do you have a video that shows the disassembly of the headstock as mentioned in this video or is that in the works. Thanks again Mrpete222
it funny I'm not going do that ,they u do it great one
Just a little side note, You recently made a video on how to purchase a South Bend lathe. There is currently a discussion on the practical machinist South Bend bulletin board at, www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/southbend-9c-new-member-327080/ . I feel that some of the information given, may be useful. Unless this lathe was given to him, I'm saddened to say that if this guy had known what to look for, he would've turned and ran away from this machine. although he might be able to get it in a usable condition, I'm not sure that he would not be better off departed out.
keep up the good work Mr. Pete. You're doing a great service to everyone. Knowledge is the key to a good life.
Joe.
Thank you
What idiot watched this video and felt the need to give a thumbs down? For the life of me, I can not understand how someone can watch a Tubalcain video and dislike it. If I watched a video from anyone that I didn't care for, I just simply turn it off. I realize not everything is my cup of tea although I have yet to watch Tubalcain video I didn't enjoy.
I've wondered that many times myself, seems like there's always one or two thumbs down. The only thing I can figure is its a couple of his students that failed his class! I love this channel.
In 5-6 years of watching RUclips...I've given maybe 2 thumbs down....and that was for foul language and gross mis-information....usually I just don't watch the stuff I don't like....but I also appreciate the time/effort people go to in making/posting the videos....
Thank you
Slightly off the topic. You have shown amazing control with not making a political comment on the somewhat frightening situation that may not end next Tuesday. Your You Tube name and the infrequent comments would suggest that you may have some Sunday School connections. This election is concerning to many of the citizens of your Northern Neighbour.
Here in Canada, as you may know, we have very different gun control legislation. Removing the guns from the hands of responsible citizens has done nothing to stop the killing that goes on between gangs and criminals and a few others who with very little effort can buy a black-market gun . In the mid 1950s my brother and I bought a .22 rifle and two boxes of .22 shorts. I was 10 years old. We took turns carrying the gun on the mile long walk home. No one complained and we were encouraged to be careful by a few mothers. Here in 2016, my son has had the police called to attend a gun complaint by one of our nosey neighbours, who knows better. My son often goes out to play Air-Soft with his friends on Sunday morning.
I am your age and I like you, often long for the better parts of what used to be. There seems to have been some freedom lost for responsible persons and I cannot be convinced that the situation will not get worse in the near future.
I am a long time subscriber to your channel. While I watch everything you post, I have to say that the lathe cleaning videos are my least favorite. I understand this instruction may be very important to may persons.
I wish for you and your country the best outcome of next Tuesday. Whatever happens your neighbour to the North will be effected in no small measure.
Things are in a terrible mess in the USA
>> " I understand this instruction may be very important to may persons..."
Understatement of the year!
Ummm...There's a bunch of us down here in the States for which this series of videos is pretty damn useful. It not as though South Bend 9's and 10K's are no longer wanted...quite the opposite really. And not to mention this series also serves the Boxford + the Smart & Brown crowd over in the UK and Europe as well. Not to mention all the South Bend copies in Brazil, Australia; and let's not forget as well as the Blomqvst SouthBend copy, made in Sweden. Give that some thought, Bob Smith.
the gib drill it out an weldit an re drill it
Tubalcain GONE POLITICAL!
Get your grand son to paint it and help you then give it to him.
Looking forward to the next installment.
It pays to get up early.
To watch ''Pete'll fix it''
Pandora's box...
Better get that baster back to the kitchen before Mrs Pete notices. Thanksgiving is coming!
In Jr high, 1989 my shop teacher wanted to shoot my AR15 and I wanted to borrow his 10 gauge to turkey hunt with so on a Friday I brought my gun to school (in a case) along with ammo, and he brought his. We took them home for the weekend and brought them to trade back on Monday, NOBODY CARED! Now these poor kids are expelled for mentioning a gun. I don't have much hope for the world.
Neat!! In the 80's, the auto teacher & I would bring are 22s to school & have target practice in the shop after the kids left. We would shoot into the foundry sand barrels
The good old days don't seem that long ago.
Shane K A fellow I know took his gun to class for his Demonstration speech (I think most students do one as a way to learn to do public speeking). His demonstration was "how to clean a gun"
Idiot
Protrusion and "hammer and chisel mecanic"... This is two classes for the price of one: Machinism and english.
Let,s go and ask Trump what are his intends to fight back protrusionnism?