that's a fine idea. i'm also interested what is Bunta's choice of cars. considering he raced the touge in his younger days, that could be like late 70-80's. i'm thinking abt something like toyota starlet, celicas or myb nissan's hakosuka?
Hate to sound like a broken record, but 'Dreaming of Akina's been out for more than a few years at this point, if you're willing to read. If not, then I can't agree with you more.
Funny thing is if initial d adapt literally everything from the manga accurately you wouldn't watch it outside as well. It's the anime that made initial d what it is today.
What is worse is that if you compare it to most race queen outfits, you can see that even the actual race queen outfit is less revealing than the Angels outfit. Heck, at least if it's something like Azur Lane's race queen outfits, I can expect that because Azur Lane is one of those balls on the wall fanservice heavy game. MF Ghost's Angels just exist for the sake of having any kind of fanservice and not even as good as Mako's shower scene in Special Stage or any of the swimsuit scenes in Initial D
@@KidMangaX the angels are sexualized both in the anime and the manga, and there's a dude in the story who's into 17 year old girls. Seeing the angels in MFG makes me uncomfortable, not because they're attractive, but the media trying to make them attractive by pointing at their sensitive spots.
MF Ghost makes Wangan Midnight's characters and story seem fleshed out and interesting by comparison, enough said. Also the main race takes 3 entire episodes.
@@ITSMRFOXY I would say it's due to how many things are cut in the anime compared to the manga. While Akio is kind of boring, it is a deliberate writing choice to highlight other characters that want to chase the Devil Z
Yea but like initial d mf g takes a look at multiple races with 40km 2 lap race and initial d looks into 2 racers who are going downhill a touge road which should take 5 minutes and is put into 2 episodes so yea
@@ITSMRFOXYwangan is actually pretty alright it isnt as good as initial d is just not as good and different type of racing so initial d fans dont rlly like it since wangan is highway racing and initial d is togue racing
Tsuchiya never worked on the manga directly. His main job was working with the animation team, making sure the drifting was represented properly. And he stopped working on it after 4th stage. And it really shows, as the 5th stage section in both the manga and anime is shockingly bad. Also, Kanata drove in f3, that's where Sawatari knows him from. He was a prodigy there too, but not champion before he left to take care of his mom before her passing.
The quality of the 4th stage is where everything starts to fall apart. We treat each oponent in the same way, team goes, practice, the majority of oponents are pricks, race starts, ryosuke explains the plot armor of the race, both keisuke and takumi wins.
I don’t view MFG as a more direct sequel, but rather a spiritual successor. Also the controversy when the show released around how tires work in MFG (particularly tire deg) was fucking hilarious and really showed just how many people in the community know NOTHING about how racing slicks work.
@@Powdercoreyguy Racing slicks degrade quicker than grooved street tires becuase they're operating at very high temperatures under very high loads and the grip wearing down is the outer layers of rubber wearing off and coming off of the tires, laying into the track. As rubber lays into asphalt, it provides more grip because rubber grips rubber better than it grips asphalt (unless it's rainy, in which case this is now reversed). This is why on many race tracks, you can see a black line that basically outlines your racing line: that's where all the rubber is laid down.
Small correction: The Lotus Siblings are actually called the Yajikita Siblings, and both of them don't drive Lotuses. Kakeru is the one with the white Lotus Exige, and Nozomi, the girl, is the one with the red Alfa Romeo 4C.
@@Safan118 The older brother swapped to an Emira in the final race of the season (In the Manga). TBH, it's pointless. The Exige 360 has a slightly higher top speed (172 compared to Emira's 171), considerably lower weight (1138KG VS 1446KG), and a quicker 0-60 time (4.0 sec vs 4.4 sec). *Edit: Sorry, the Emira weight 1446, not 1400.
For Me, it was worthy as succesor to the series, if only Shigeno reduced his desire of underage fanservice that would made me more enjoy this series, apart from it I'm enjoying action of Kanata and can't wait for 2nd Season
agree.. my mother used to watch initial D (live action). She liked it so much that she kept watching it again and again. So i tot it would be a good idea to watch mfg with her sometimes. But when i see the angels, well nvm.
A back story on Bunta would’ve been so fire. In stage 1 episode 23, when Keiichi calls Bunta over the phone , we get a peak into the professional side of racing Bunta was once involved in. A prequel focusing on how Bunta got into Group A racing, how he did against Touge downhill racers in his day, and the relationship with his father would be a solid story. And if they can revert back to the OG animation from stage 1, *chefs kiss.
Bunta is one of those characters that works better in the mystery, this dude is just THAT good and it leaves people wondering. The fact then that you get these wonderful little teases of him coming back and smokin' Takumi on the streets was hype. Although I wouldn't object to a bit more on Bunta, it should just be a single OVA/special episode to just fill a gap in or two, giving people a bit of info while still leaving you wanting more.
@@ieurobeatkids9378not to the scale of initial d adaptation tho. One improvises the entire series with spirit and soul, the other merely makes the characters move. In fact, you can compare the gas-drinking skit from the initial d manga to anime. You'll see what I mean.
@donnycorn3086 I never compared it do initial d. Improvising only works when you have the time to do it, while still staying faithful to the source material. The race itself took up like 1/3rd of the season, the romance too up another 1/3rd. Not much space left to do Improvising. The main ways the Anime improves is Character design and action. The characters in the Manga look like blob-fish, and the overtakes have 0 feeling. The pacing is also slightly better in the anime, but they couldn't really do much, and it just gets worse as the story continues.
Some scenes I expect from MF Ghost- 1. Keisuke taking his FD again to make new records for the course which were broken by Porsche Cayman 2. Keisuke and Kyoko together and Mako and Iketani too 3. Takumi vs Kanata with their AE86 and GT86 on Akina 4. And the antagonist getting humbled by Ryouske in his FC
1. The public records aren't his true times. He wasn't pushing to the fullest, said it himself during race 5. He will be setting new times and actually trying for the next season. 2. Keisuke isn't married to Kyoko, but it's going to be someone "Surpsrsing" according to Shigeno. Iketani is still single and still working at the Gas station. Absolute bum. 3. The 86 was sent to the scrapyard, to idk how that would work. 4. Ryosuke has been retired since before project d, and is a doctor full time. Why would he be racing. What you're asking for is just Initial D 2. That's not what MF Ghost is. For better or for worse.
@@ieurobeatkids9378 I read somewhere that AE86 was did send to scrapyard but some other kid from Akina bought it and swapped the engine. And used it for some time for racing and drifting and then only it was scrapped. I know race against the Grim Reaper R32 was Ryouske's last race but it wouldn't be bad to humble a cocky white ass bit(h and get some nostalgia at the same time. How the hell just these 4 requests gonna make a new series? All I'm asking for is some cherries. And BTW this season of MF Ghost wasn't good anyway. They stretched a 2 lap race a whole season. There were annoying _angels_ and flashbacks ruining the intense mood of the race. And Kanata had no character development by the end of the season. Only race scenes, cars and technical info was great.
@@ieurobeatkids9378 Ryosuke can race on his spare time. A full time doctor but the creator of MFG means he has a lot of free time to be able to pull that kind of stuff.
@jrbudoybudoy Not really. He's never actively involved in MFG due to his main job. There's a reason he makes Keisuke and Fumihiro take care of all if MFG's operations. He was literally in the middle of a surgery when qualifying was happening lol.
We were supposed to get a sequel about rally but the old man couldn't hold his desires with underaged girls and panties. But still the show has some potential, if we ignore the fan service and look at basckstories of og charecters and animation
Personally I didn't like it at all lol but I think I've made that clear. I posted a comment on the MFG subreddit the other day where I explained how I would change the series to address what I think the biggest problems are from a story perspective (and I got downvoted lmao) but here's what I would do to make MFG work. The story of MFG just doesn't work because there's not enough room for Kanata to grow as a racer and as a character he's too emotionless and quiet for us to know much about him, but also the search for his dad and why he's even competing in MFG aren't particularly clear at all. There are elements there that could be tweaked to make him searching for his dad more important. Make it so instead of his mother being dead she's still sick so he needs the money from MFG for her treatment. Make him resentful of his dad for running off so he wants to confront him about abandoning his family while his mother is dying. With those changes now we have a strong character motivation, the races actually matter, and Kanata has goals that connect both the races and his personal journey. While we're at it, make Kanata more angry and emotional. We got quiet (though not at all emotionless) with Takumi, so let's have someone more similar to Keisuke as a lead to make it more distinct from ID. I'd also eliminate the "trained by Takumi in a world class racing academy" backstory because it makes him insanely uninteresting because he can just do anything and is capable of everything from the very beginning. Make him a poor kid who learned his skills street racing and is now trying to break into the elite racing class with nothing but raw skill to save his mother's life and he has an extremely hard time keeping up with these high end sports cars. This would also be good because it would feel like us as fans of initial D and street racing are "graduating" to the big leagues, something that was always talked about in Initial D, but with Kanat's family drama and new bolder personality, it also feels a lot more fresh and interesting. At this point you may be saying "this is just a completely different series now" and yeah you're right, because everything I'm changing are elements that make MFG boring. Oh and the angels no longer exist. If they absolutely NEED to exist, Ren is in her 20s now and joined the angels because she loves racing and this was the best way she could think of to be close to the action but ultimately still doesn't like it and Kanata teaches her to drive, she leaves the angels and that's how they fall in love. Also no more qualifying runs. Idk exactly how I'd make that work but ultimately I find qualifying runs really boring and as it is rn they're technically more important than the races themselves, so there should be something else. Maybe he just can pay a fee to enter in so that could add tension that he has to use money he desperately needs for his mother's treatment to gamble himself on a race he has little chance of winning and that can show us how he's fucking insane or something. Which would be endearing and cool when he actually places well. Oh and Sawatari is gone. He doesn't exist anymore.
I have no more hopes for MF Ghost unless they retcon the entire story to be on par with what you suggested rather than just following the original crap story.
DISCUSSION: -What would happen if one competitor would've brought a Hillclimb spec car? Will it decimate the competition? Examples: -Carlsson Mercedes 'SLK340' Weighting only 790 kilos and producing an impressive 610 HP at 11,300RPM from a Judd 3.4L V8, it is among the fastest hillclimbers in Europe. You can search for more infos about it in the channel 'FIA Hillclimb Masters'. I've had a previous argument in reddit about the use of Shaken regulation (Road legality of cars in Japan), and found no evidence of such thing being said in the manga, wiki, and anime. It only mandates the use of wider or thinner tires (bridgestones), regarding to the 'grip-to-weight ratio' (which tbh, never been implemented to any existing motorsport category). Also, the MFG regulation never explicitly state the use of slick tires, weight reduction, extensive aero parts, pit stops, tire warmers (I assume its legal because we can see it in the OP), etc. The winning driver is also rewarded aproximately 600k USD each race, and it can easily cover your build in a race (or two at most). That leaves you with 3 Million of prize money per season, given your car is reliable to win 5 races. This left so many plotholes.
I can feel your pain. I got the same treatment there. The Subreddit is just so narrow-minded. Honestly, one of my worst experience on Reddit. Plus, the story is mediocre at best, and that's me being generous. No development on every characters, nobody treat the championships as the real deal. It'll be great if there's stake in line, and characters too root for. Good to know that I'm not alone on this.
I'll be honest, I kept up with the manga until it was announced that it was becoming an anime. I already knew it was gonna suck and I tried to let people know to not get their hopes up, but people ended up disappointed anyways. Gotta give credit to the marketing team though. They appealed to the fanbase's nostalgia and sold them on the idea it was gonna be good. Anyways, I'm just disappointed that this is the legacy of Initial D. It could've been a lot better.
id love to see a car anime/manga where the MC starts from the bottom and grows to the top. Not like takumi, atleast a different concept of starting from the bottom if you get what i mean
try Over-Rev! It is much better than Initial D in literally every single category (better artstyle IMO, better story overall, more diverse and fleshed out characters, more varied racing, and more varied cars from Civic to Camaro, and better fanservices).
@@javianbrown8627I will say two words. DO IT. It’s the polar opposite of MFG with much more depth, more accurate racing feel. I like to compare it to saying watching Initial D vs Capeta. Funny thing it’s a similar car racing comparison from the same era with the same problem. Initial D had characters that had issues with being 2 dimensional vs Capetas characters are very well fleshed out, and Initial D focuses on street races vs Capeta also is more pro/formula racing. Same thing happens with overtake vs MFG
@@Angrynood Sadly it just didn’t get the marketing MFG got. And it shows in the video, how he was like “MFG had no competition” meanwhile Overtake was running exactly at the same time.
@@philipbarton3456 Initial D really carries the hype for MFG. Unfortunately that's just how it's gonna be, so other racing anime will find it hard to compete.
My Personal review: *visuals & graphics: 8/10 *Story : 2/10 *Character : -10/10 *Races : 4/10 (lacks intensity and build up) *Immersion : 4/10 Verdict : Meh as a anime. Shit as a initial D successor.
Unworthy. It relies too much on nostalgia and Initial D without having much substance to stand on its own two feet. It's dissapointing but at least we get eurobeat, I suppose? We should have gotten that Rally sequel that was in the works.
I think they use rock covers of some eurobeat songs used in initial d, or at least thats what i heard in a clip of a race from the series. Also, i still want the race between takumi and keisuke
no one here seems to have pointed it out but Kanata is the given name, Livington and Katagiri are the surnames he used, unless there's a joke that's gone over my head
I mean i don't think so in my opinion Since everything in Initial D was just so good and the scenes are all iconic because of the Eurobeat songs whenever something crazy is about to happen
Dude, don't use the word pedophile willy-nilly. A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (kids who didn't even get to puberty). Pedophilia is a psychopathology. However, it is completely different to being attracted to adolescents, that isn't pedophilia, it is an _ephebophilia._ Which may be socially unacceptable today, but it is in a whole different category because it is not a psychopathology by the simple reason that post-pubescent adolescents are signaling fertility (physical maturity and pheromones), and adults are receptive to fertility signals. So this is not just po-tay-to/po-tah-toh, it is a huge difference. TL;DR *Ephebophilia* is about being sexually attracted to mid-to-late adolescents (post-pubescent) which _is biologically natural,_ no need to feel guilty about finding a teen attractive, but because we are living in a civilized society we recognize that it is improper for the power asymmetry and the high risks for abuse, so it is morally proper to hold our horses. *Pedophilia* is about being attracted to _pre-pubescents,_ which is unjustifiable by evolutionary psychology, as it makes zero sense to feel sexually attracted when there is zero fertility signaling from children, this is why pedophilia is defined as a _paraphilia_ and it is a _psychopathology._ So if you find sexually atttracted to a teen, just take a cold shower. If you find attracted to a child, seek psychological and psychiatric support.
4:51 the regulation is grip to weight ratio not power to grip ratio. Power is unrestricted so they started calling it the rich man's regulation because everybody racing started using high horsepower european models which were unattainable unless you were rich
Iirc the anime correctly you are wrong regarding the grip to power ratio in MFG, it is grip to weight ratio. The heavier the car the broader the tires can be. Otherwise it would make more sense to have small cars with highly tuned engines that have tons of power outpout instead of heavier cars like an Lamborghini, or Nissan GTR, which are quite heavy compared to the Alpine 110 or Lotus.
@@earlgumban yeah but this really misses the opportunity for fans to connect to the new. For a good sequel the main characters need to backseat. But the way it's done here reminds me of yashahime the sequel to inuyasha. The author forced themselves to come up with a story why the old main is backseating. It doesn't feel like he wanted the story this way which lead to bland characters and an unsatisfying brake with the original. In my opinion a good sequel could have most main characters from the original visible in the first few episodes. They are aged and aren't in the center of attention. Maybe they are the parents of the new main characters maybe not. But they should play an active support role like a team for the new main characters. This would be a good setting to naturally include flash backs to further tie the fans back in. Maybe the old main characters scattered after the original end and are gathered unknowingly by the new main characters creating a sense of nostalgia most fans would feel along with as there is a lot of time between the 2 shows. I think with something along these lines and a heavier focus on eurobeat mfg would have had the potential to bridge the decade long gap. This half assed story with uninspiring secrecy about the old mains which feels like it's written to make the old fans cut ties with the old characters and focus on the new is just not how you successfully make a sequel.
@@redcrafterlppa303 Spoiler maybe: in the later part of the series he'll probably make a cameo appearance Ryosuke and Mika already make an appearance in one of the latest manga chapters.
Bro could easily go to the police and ask help to find his stupid dad without the convoluted plot of joining a looked down upon racing event, where 99% of the drivers are so incompetent that they're almost beaten by a guy in an underpowered budget sports car while the rules makes zero sense. Remember that this is the 4th year of this competition has been running, there are no rules against aero nor modification, and yet nobody is exploiting this gaping abyss of a loophole.
I would recommend to read the manga before passing judgements. Honestly, the video felt rather lackluster because it only focused on the story till the point season 1 of the anime was made. I will admit that even the manga feels rather mundane outside of the races but it really does delve into Kanata, his backstory and his journey in Japan. Understand that Kanata by nature is a closed up person and he is in a country where he doesn't know many people. As you would progress in the story you would see Kanata open up slowly with Ren as the pair would hunt for clues to find Kanata's father. In the end, if you are going to compare MF Ghost with Initial D, then yes, it is going to severely pale in comparison. But by itself it is a decent story with hints of Initial D here and there which makes it rather endearing to read through. For instance, were you aware that while reading through the manga, you'll find that Takumi ended up marrying Mika Uehara (his GF in 5th Stage)? Or the fact that other than the Takahashi brothers, characters from Todo School and Zero Academy also make appearances as guest commentators? There is a lot of interesting tid bits about our old favorite characters which makes me want to go through this story. If nothing else it helps us glean into what became of the characters post Initial D.
And catch up with the tie in of the old characters with the new. I think the start lost a lot of traction by making the old main characters mysterious and scarce. If the show started with an ae86 drifting around corners at the end revealing takumi in the passenger seat and the new main driving would have been a much better kickoff compared to whatever this was.
I swear the haters are just people who watched Initial D clips on youtube and think they know what the original was about. MF ghost is a good successor to Initial D. As for 8:37, Initial D had a similar plotline for those who actually watched through the melo drama and not only clips of the races.
I like Kouki, but not as a character. He's quite the bad-ass driver (as Season 2 will show) and that's enough to turn the "i only date 17 year olds" into a void. Btw i liked how you didn't say the cookie cutter "shitbox 86 running down Lambos and Ferraris" line, because that didn't happen(in the first race).
In my opinion, NOTHING will ever compare to initial D season 1 and 2 but from what ive seen so far mf ghost seems decent. Im probably gonna binge it all once season 2 is done
I had the manga and enjoyed it until Project D is formed, a read a couple more volumes and then just tailed off after that. I just feel that at the Project D point you can kinda just see it as an ending of sorts so I was content. Do hold Initial D close to my heart though.
Never heard of such measurement being taken to any form of Motorsport regulations. Power-to-weight, yes. But weight-to-grip? Simply changing tire dimensions doesn't ensure fair competition due to several reasons: Power Delivery More power needs more grip to be usable. Mismatching tire width to power can lead to excessive wheel spin or underutilization of available power. Handling Characteristics Larger tires can improve grip but might affect the steering response and overall agility. Also, they increase mass and rotational inertia. Safety and Reliability Over or under-sizing tires for a car's weight and power can lead to increased wear, potential failure, and able to affect braking and handling.
Let's see what the MFG competitors are running and compare this to Nurburgring laptimes, which have similar characteristics to most courses in MFG. Tight and long corners, straights) : Ishigami - 991.1 GT3 Clubsport (Pre Facelift): 475 hp, RWD *7 min 32 sec* Akaba - 488 GTB: 660 hp, RWD. *7 min 21 sec* Oishi - Huracan LP610-4: 610 hp, AWD *7 min 28 sec* Aiba - R35 Nismo (Anime S1) (2017): 592 hp, AWD *7 min 36 sec* (Road Legal) *7 Min 8 sec* (N-Attack Package (Not Street Legal)) Hanninen - LC500: 471 hp, RWD. *NO DATA. Won 2018 24 Hours of Nurburgring SP-PRO class. * Greene (Manga) - V8 Vantage: 503 hp in newer models, RWD *7 Min 43 Sec* Beckenbauer (Manga) - 718 Cayman GT4: 493 hp, RWD *7 Min 42 sec* Moroboshi (Manga) BLITZ GR Supra: SZ-R (Anime): 258 hp (B48 2.0L I4 ), RWD RZ (Manga): 382 hp (B58 3.0L I6), RWD *7 Min 52 sec (RZ)* I'll be generous that the brake upgrade and aero kit went well, so I'll deduct 5-10 seconds from the run. *Between 7 Min 47 sec to 7 Min 42 sec* Yanagida (Manga) - M4 DTM Championship Edition: 493 hp, RWD *7 Min 28 Sec* (Pistonheads.com) Sawatari (Manga) - A110R: 296 hp, RWD *7 Min 35 sec* Sakamoto (Anime S1) - R8 V10 Plus: 610 hp, AWD *7 Min 32 sec* Ohtani (Manga) - AMG GT R: 577 hp, RWD *7 Min 11 sec* Taylor - 991.1 Carrera GTS: 450 hp, RWD (4S is AWD) *7 min 24 sec* (991.2 PDK.) Kitahara - Alfa 4C Competizione: 237 hp, RWD *8 min 4 sec* Yashio (Anime S1) - Exige S 360 Cup: 355 hp, RWD. *7 min 48 sec (Cup 380)* Maezono - (Anime S1) Civic Type R (FK8): 306 hp, FWD. *7 Min 44 sec (Honda weight reduction test)* *8 Min 1 sec (Sport Auto test)* Katagiri (Manga Final Spec) ZN6 GT86: 296HP,RWD with various modification mostly towards balance and gear ratio. From the wiki: Engine Overhaul (Rebalancing and High Load Parts) (300PS/296HP) BLITZ TURBO SYSTEM with B06-380R Turbo Nardi Deep Corn Sport Rally Steering Wheel BLITZ BIG CALIPER KIT II Brakes BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R Coilover Kit BLITZ NUR-SPEC StyleD Exhaust System BLITZ Suction Kit Intake and Carbon Power Air Cleaner BLITZ Thro Con Throttle Controller[14] Enkei PF-05 Wheels (Dark Silver) BLITZ Stickers on Front Fenders BLITZ Racing Meter Panel (Oil Pressure, Water Temperature, Turbo Boost) Custom OEM Style Carbon Fiber Hood BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R SpecDSC PLUS ZN6/ZC6 86/BRZ Active Suspension (Damping force 16 (front), 20 (back)) TRD Toyota 86 14R Limited Edition Aero Kit (Front Bumper, Front Fender, Side Skirt, Rear Bumper, Rear Diffuser, Center-Exit Exhaust, 18’ Magnesium Ultralight Wheels) Stock Carbon Filter Roof TOM’S V1 LED Tail Lights TRD Monoblock Big Brake Kit Closer Gear Ratios with a Shorter Final Drive *Stock 8 Min 45 sec* *Let's say Upgraded ver. might cut down it between the lower 8 seconds. (Anime MC momento)* *Keep in mind that series like DTM is only separated by average of 1,5 seconds in terms of qualifying. Running multiple laps in a track twice as long as the Nordschleife will put a significant gap between each cars.) (www.dtm.com/en/results) There's a method of achieving balance in motorsport, called BoP (Balance of Performance). Let's say, in context of GT3, if a specific vehicle have a competitive edge over the other, they would add weight, limit engine power, adjust the tires (but to a certain degree) and regulate aerodynamics to ensure a more competitive field. For example: Audi R8 LMS GT3 Engine: 5.2L V10 naturally aspirated Power Output: Approximately 500-580 hp (varies due to BoP) Weight: Minimum weight around 1225 kg (subject to BoP adjustments) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 2. Mercedes-AMG GT3 Engine: 4.0L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Around 500-550 hp (varies due to BoP) Weight: Minimum weight approximately 1285 kg (subject to BoP adjustments) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 3. Porsche 911 GT3 R Engine: 4.0L flat-six naturally aspirated Power Output: Typically between 500-550 hp (adjusted by BoP) Weight: Minimum weight about 1230 kg (can vary with BoP) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 4. Ferrari 488 GT3 Engine: 3.9L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Estimated 500-600 hp (BoP dependent) Weight: Minimum weight around 1245 kg (subject to BoP changes) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 5. BMW M6 GT3 Engine: 4.4L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Roughly 500-585 hp (adjusted by BoP) Weight: Minimum weight typically 1300 kg (varies with BoP) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Tires: Audi R8 LMS GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 Mercedes-AMG GT3: Front: 325/660-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 Porsche 911 GT3 R: Front: 300/660-R18 Rear: 330/705-R18 Ferrari 488 GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 BMW M6 GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 A larger contact patch generally provides more grip, which is why you see specifications like "325/680-R18" where 325 refers to the tire width in millimeters, and 680 indicates the sidewall height (aspect ratio). The final component, "R18", refers to the rim diameter in inches.You can see that the difference are measurable within the milimetres, which promotes on-track safety and lap time consistency between each cars, as official tire suppliers are able to collect valuable data to balance the field even further. In a nutshell, weight-to-grip (whatever it is), does not create an even playing field to such a difference field of cars.
that's kinda the point, at the beginning they do point out it gives an insane advantage to exotics and Italian imports. though the tire thing is used in some classes, Gridlife's GLTC comes to mind. It's also power-to-weight limited, but there's a weight bracket system for average tire width, eg a 2000lbs car would be allowed up to 240 average width tires but a 3000lbs car can run 285 average or whatever. and they're locked to 200treadwear. you can see this in Gears and Gasoline's civic type R and camry-swapped MR2 builds for GLTC
@@arielfernandez8196 Yep, that's a good point to add. A variation of tire width and weight brackets are great ways to ensure balance. GLTC's 12.5 lbs/HP, power-to-weight ratio is also a notable method. GLTC's regulation works because it provides clear instructions of how you should build your car, based on the ruleset. Even adding brackets to specific engine families, aerodynamics (shape & width), gearbox, etc. However, in MFG's context, everything becomes a bit vague. It's not your standard race track, it's a road course twice the size of the Nurburgring. Calculating balance for each variation of cars could be more than challenging. Simply swapping tires based on weight while not accounting for other factors such as CoG, downforce, gear ratio, and power output simply doesn't work. There are just too many loopholes. Also, most vehicles here are listed as stock and receive minimal modifications. My opinion is, that without a clear indication on where the regulation is going to, potentially people would be building their cars based on WTAC or FIA Hillclimb Monsters series. TBH I love the new perspective you gave me. Thanks a million!
I do agree with 100% of the criticism directed outside of the racing scenes but I do feel like you're underselling the racing here. Yeah, you like racing and racing in general is good, therefore racing in this show is good. That's what you make it sound like, which is unfair. The integrity of the video, in general, is kinda weak too because you get so many things wrong. You name drop wrong cars, mix-up first names with surnames and you even got the premise of the grip-weight ratio wrong. I think all the mostly accurate technical and racecraft knowledge from Initial D is still present here, which is more than what most other racing media has to offer. And some fresh ideas do make for some really interesting setups like the low visibility sections, where Kanata's memory gives him an advantage. Him using the periodic time difference against the car ahead of him to gauge the pace difference and estimate when it will be time to make a quick overtake move, etc. It's hard to compare to Initial D with only 1 season but the animation and racing so far has been top notch imo.
Correction it is hard to find a pre facelift AE86 hot hatch for a decent price coupes from 1982 to 1987 and facelift hot hatches are going up in price but there not super high like the face lift hot hatch
@@am_sousa2246 Which provides them with more grip. Higher surface contact means better traction and overall grip. In case you don't know, I've read the manga, it's up until the final race. Clearly, everything is still nonsensical.I've actually made a comment debunking the theory. You can look for it if you sort by new.
Well if they do a 1 for 1 adaptation of the manga, it runs on nostalgia factor with the exact formula as Initial D, the MFG Angels as your standard fan service and street circuit style racing. What I really dont like are the so called "tourists" with the conventional racing arguments such as: -how can an 86 beat a Ferrari -how can bigger tires make a car slower and lose grip on corners and your average western anime fan: -pedophile 21 year old hits on 17 year old girl -why are they dressed like that. Its as if people forget its an anime. At the end of the day, I still prefer Initial D over MF Ghost but its always nice to watch cars go fast with accompanying eurobeat even it doesnt make sense in the real world.
Ive been into initial d for a long time, and this is fine. Doesnt have the same street style that i loved but its still a really good show. Are there things i dont like? Of course but still the racings really good
@@Popo_Cruiser All European, that is? Michael, Kouki (Hononary European, I guess? He's nearly a French), Emma (Sorta)? Oh yeah, spoilers for the manga. Kouki's character development is just dead in the manga. There's Emma Greene (AM Vantage) who only did 1 race (shame. Her character is the most interesting), Sena Moroboshi (A90/A91 Supra), who is Keisuke's apprentice, and Sakurano (Who drives a panda ZN8 with no. 860. Basically a Kanata fan.)
I will break in favour of MFG, at the begining Initial D does not have that complicated of a personality, also there is few informaiton as Takumi was the teacher of Kanata in the UK as he become a driving teacher in a racing school in the UK that for sure will take more notorious in the future. Also there is a "new guy" that did not arrive to the anime. Read the comic it is better than it looks.
I think its an ok successor , the cars scenes are plentyful and pretty damn good , the things i would change would be getting rid of the girls and adding back eurobeat ,to me it just is a lil weird watching the gt86,lotus and alpha romeo duke it out for positions, to immediately the shot of a girls ass that has nothing yo do with whats going on , id rather it be like it was when inital d was still going on we had the slieighty girls and takumis girls that was it anything else theyd be background characters or side characters, to me its the girls that really take away alot from this series like yea race queens are an actual thing i mean look at super hot with the drift king and some of the episodes include them , so my main gripe is just keep it focused on racing and then give an episode where we get to learn and get to know the drivers more and what happened for them to be where they are now just like intial d and then if they want to give us fan service go ahead , so ye , to me theirs to much of fan service and it really just makes it just seem weird,
Ive been into initial d for a long time, and this is fine. Doesnt have the same street style that i loved but its still a really good show. Are there things i dont like? Of course but still the racings really good
@@bullymaguire8380 oh I definately agree. It doesn't hold a candle. But then again I don't think there's going to be anything as good as initial d coming out. They didn't even dub the final stage of initial d and I'm still raging
i planned to watch tihs one. but kinda confused. as my starting is from wangan midnight. though I see some episode of initial D, I know those 2 kinda good. but have 0 idea about this one.
Unpopular opinion, Initial D was never really that good. I always felt that Wangan Midnight was a much better portrayal of cars and driving. In Initial D, it wasn't about the cars and racing, it was about Takumi.
At least Initial D races are somewhat believable. Sorry MFG but there isn't a single bit of road or track in the world where that 911, 488 and Huracan would be challeneged by a GT86 that isn't a full out race car on slicks and with at least GT4 levels of downforce. The GR86 Cup car though, that would be a different story.
Not important, but it was actually switched with tires. bigger power, smaller tires, weaker power, bigger tires, also Regionally speaking that dude isn't a pedo since japan has a 16yr old age of consent (yes its still gross to me because 18 is the limit in Murica..though honestly feels more like 20 is the morally acceptable range imo, depending on the older ones age obviously)
I feel like you're looking way too deep into this. I don't think the show is boring when they aren't racing at all. If anything I want to learn more about the world and the characters. Also someone going to a different country to look for an estranged parent is not that strange and becoming popular by racing which is the thing he's good at isn't a terrible plan. MF Ghost is a huge thing in universe. If his dad watches TV then he'll hear about it and might try and reach out and it's not like he isn't looking on foot. The angels being sexualised makes perfect sense if you know anything about the car scene especially the 90s, early 00s street racing scene. Majority of women were there as eye candy. I agree her being 17 and a character who because his favourite number is 17 he only likes 17 year olds thing is not great but if you watch anime you know what japan is like with that kind of stuff (I point at the SAO tentacle scene) so just let it slide. Oh and in regards to how you find Kanata a bit blank well I disagree. I've genuinely known people like that.
Absolutely, but only for the ones that enjoiyed initial d from 4th stage onwards. In my not humble oponion Initial D ends with 3rd stage making takumi learn and choose his fate after being an oblivious teenager. Takumi learns 95% of its development on the first 3rd stages, wins "serious" races by chance making him learn way less than he should be. Yeah, he won by chance many times before, but no in a "semi professional amateur" way, I care more about the FOREVEEEEEER guy than takumi itself in that race. Keisue steals the show from 4th stage onwards, no doubt about it and not open to discuss it. When you have two protagonists and one is weaker in its role Initial D the show feels hollow. MF Ghost is everything that was wrong from 4th stage onwards and multiplied by 10. I mean, I dare to say that even Shigeno does not understand its show. MF Ghost is built around this underdog theme, excuse me? what underdog in Initial D? Takumi's car was underpowered for sure but with its experience he was basically the pro of the novices, skill was not always his problem if you watch the show, it was being actually a sports driver, he was always able to pull his tricks, but he had the "problem" to learn where to put them. And when he understood that his car was not up to his skills, it ends blowing up in the Sudo race. Until this time Takumi's car was always tuned by bunta in the suspension part for the akina races, he never went handicaped, and when he literally did he learned how to drive in the middle of the race. After the renascimento of the AE86 the power goes for almost 250hp and some time later in the Project D the car was professionaly tuned for the races. Where is the motherfucking underdog there? And then we just have a puny car in MFG with only 200hp wining against AWD more powerful cars than his.
I know I'm late to the party, but what MFG highlights is the cultural differences between the Japanese and US. Age of consent is 16 in Japan, and that was just recently raised from 13 in 2023. There is an entire subplot of Natsuki engaging in an enjo kōsai, or sugar daddy, relationship in the Initial D manga. Does that excuse the "plot" in MFG? No, as highlighted there is really very little REAL plot to begin with. MFG is stuck with the curse of trying to predict the future and wrapping og Initial D characters in it.
@@jamielusions based on what? I was able to reference the Penal Code, specifically Article 176 and 177, and the associated amendments. Regardless, my comment stands that there is a clear difference related to Japanese culture and the age of consent demonstrated in both the Initial D manga and MFG manga/anime.
@@asmcinn that's for national minimum, but since forever practically all the region/prefecture in Japan (they can have their own rules, comparable to a US state) set the age of consent to 17-18yo. You can't even drink alcohol if you're below 20.
thats all bs, inital d did show nobody how cool jdm is, fast and the furious and need for speed underground did. a few years ago, most people didnt even know that anime. social media did make it big. i remember back in the days i did watch it and had literally nobody to talk about it, because nobody did know it.
I don’t like how everyone who meets the main character thinks “he’s so cool, kind, attractive, smart, incredible”. He is gods gift to the world in this show. That seems a bit over the top to me. I don’t like how obsessed with 17 year old girls people are. With the original you were on the edge of your seat wondering “Would Takumi win? How is he going to do it because it seems impossible!”. But in this show the character doesn’t seem like he’s even trying so there’s no sense excitement. Also a gt86 can not keep up with these cars in a straight line wtf lol I’ve owned 2 I know how slow they are. I watch this anime not because I really enjoy it but because I enjoyed initial d so much and I really want to like this show as much too.
Lol you complain that he's not even trying to win, as if he could in an 86 and then complain how the car is even keeping up. The car is not keeping up. Even if you can't tell by the results and positions, the show literally reminds you like a hundred times how underpowered that car is and how it's pace really slows down every time there's a straight section. The tension in the show isn't about whether he can come in first place in every single event. It comes from trying to see how far he can get in this obviously underpowered car and what he does to achieve results.
@@blazekazama1793 are you trying have start a whole debate? My entire point is how unrealistic it is for the 86 to pass (for example) the lotus and Alfa on the straight. Not even pass, keep up with. I’ve had my foot planted in the frs many times and from 120mph to 130mph takes so long, there’s no way he should be able to pass a 4c on a straight. But he does. How he can keep up with and pass any car on the highway in the show is unrealistic. That’s my entire point lol. Car is amazing in turns and I agree it is. Dog water slow in straights. Stay upset I guess lol glad I can live rent free in your head.
@@mikehawk5466 lmao I replied to literally one comment. By that logic, I'm also officially living rent free in your head now. Stay mad? If you actually watched the show, you'll notice that it's the 86 that gets passed by the lotus and alfa on the straight. Everytime the 86 passes, it's either late-braking into a corner and taking the inside apex, overtaking from the outside of a long corner or by faster corner exit speed. Not once does the 86 overtake on the raw straightways and only barely keeps up by towing. So unless you have anything truthful to say, stop letting me live rent-free and stop replying.
@@blazekazama1793 just keep going until you let out that frustration little boy lol You were the first to get upset and try to start some sort of debate and you clearly still are 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll keep replying though. My original opinion still stands lol
what we need is a prequel of initial d that focuses on bunta
That would be cool as hell
yeah, about time people hype up those "actual" car body shell on ladder frame truck again. A prequel where every hashiriya drives a variant of "AE86".
that's a fine idea. i'm also interested what is Bunta's choice of cars. considering he raced the touge in his younger days, that could be like late 70-80's. i'm thinking abt something like toyota starlet, celicas or myb nissan's hakosuka?
Hate to sound like a broken record, but 'Dreaming of Akina's been out for more than a few years at this point, if you're willing to read.
If not, then I can't agree with you more.
@@jacquescrusan9500Dreamin of Akina was a genuinely good read, it’s not perfect, but is surprisingly well done.
The big difference is you can watch initial d in public but not mfg because of the “angels”
So real. The angels are so cringe to me.
Funny thing is if initial d adapt literally everything from the manga accurately you wouldn't watch it outside as well.
It's the anime that made initial d what it is today.
What is worse is that if you compare it to most race queen outfits, you can see that even the actual race queen outfit is less revealing than the Angels outfit.
Heck, at least if it's something like Azur Lane's race queen outfits, I can expect that because Azur Lane is one of those balls on the wall fanservice heavy game. MF Ghost's Angels just exist for the sake of having any kind of fanservice and not even as good as Mako's shower scene in Special Stage or any of the swimsuit scenes in Initial D
Imagine thinking that the angels are NSFW. Do you work for the Vatican???
@@KidMangaX the angels are sexualized both in the anime and the manga, and there's a dude in the story who's into 17 year old girls. Seeing the angels in MFG makes me uncomfortable, not because they're attractive, but the media trying to make them attractive by pointing at their sensitive spots.
MF Ghost makes Wangan Midnight's characters and story seem fleshed out and interesting by comparison, enough said. Also the main race takes 3 entire episodes.
Really? I heard wangan had a very boring protagonist, but is everyone else just as boring or worse?
@@ITSMRFOXY I would say it's due to how many things are cut in the anime compared to the manga. While Akio is kind of boring, it is a deliberate writing choice to highlight other characters that want to chase the Devil Z
Yea but like initial d mf g takes a look at multiple races with 40km 2 lap race and initial d looks into 2 racers who are going downhill a touge road which should take 5 minutes and is put into 2 episodes so yea
@@ITSMRFOXYwangan is actually pretty alright it isnt as good as initial d is just not as good and different type of racing so initial d fans dont rlly like it since wangan is highway racing and initial d is togue racing
In huge races with multiple racers, small battles take place
All i want from MF ghost is ONE scene where takumi pulls up with an AE86 and blitzes the fastest antagonist. It would be so hype
The AE86 trueno is already dead sitting beside the tofu shop
@@Slowbaru89 any AE86 hatchback panda trueno
Which would either be the cayman or alpina and eith AE86 horsepower compared to those two cars i can say it aint happening
@@neno2754 yeah it is so unrealistic I would like it if takumi uses a gr86 or newer WRX STI
@@neno2754 Its anime, anything can happen
Tsuchiya never worked on the manga directly. His main job was working with the animation team, making sure the drifting was represented properly. And he stopped working on it after 4th stage. And it really shows, as the 5th stage section in both the manga and anime is shockingly bad.
Also, Kanata drove in f3, that's where Sawatari knows him from. He was a prodigy there too, but not champion before he left to take care of his mom before her passing.
The quality of the 4th stage is where everything starts to fall apart. We treat each oponent in the same way, team goes, practice, the majority of oponents are pricks, race starts, ryosuke explains the plot armor of the race, both keisuke and takumi wins.
@@ulisesavila2879 I'm of the opinion that the story peaked in Third Stage and the racing peaked in Fourth Stage.
Us initial d fans deserve better!!
Soo true mr trueno
I don’t view MFG as a more direct sequel, but rather a spiritual successor.
Also the controversy when the show released around how tires work in MFG (particularly tire deg) was fucking hilarious and really showed just how many people in the community know NOTHING about how racing slicks work.
I mean i do wonder how do racing slicks work
@@Powdercoreyguy As in, how they degrade so quickly or do you mean how they're able to provide more grip than grooved tires?
@@artidox__ Both
@@artidox__ because dang i guess they don’t know what they are thinking while making mf ghost
@@Powdercoreyguy Racing slicks degrade quicker than grooved street tires becuase they're operating at very high temperatures under very high loads and the grip wearing down is the outer layers of rubber wearing off and coming off of the tires, laying into the track. As rubber lays into asphalt, it provides more grip because rubber grips rubber better than it grips asphalt (unless it's rainy, in which case this is now reversed). This is why on many race tracks, you can see a black line that basically outlines your racing line: that's where all the rubber is laid down.
Small correction: The Lotus Siblings are actually called the Yajikita Siblings, and both of them don't drive Lotuses. Kakeru is the one with the white Lotus Exige, and Nozomi, the girl, is the one with the red Alfa Romeo 4C.
Yeah that's my bad. Idk why I said Lotus emeya in the video lol, I recorded this right before bed so I was probably sleepy
@@Safan118 Understandable, have a nice day.
@@Safan118 The older brother swapped to an Emira in the final race of the season (In the Manga).
TBH, it's pointless. The Exige 360 has a slightly higher top speed (172 compared to Emira's 171), considerably lower weight (1138KG VS 1446KG), and a quicker 0-60 time (4.0 sec vs 4.4 sec).
*Edit: Sorry, the Emira weight 1446, not 1400.
For Me, it was worthy as succesor to the series, if only Shigeno reduced his desire of underage fanservice that would made me more enjoy this series, apart from it I'm enjoying action of Kanata and can't wait for 2nd Season
Its not him. Its pretty much a good chunk of japanese anime
he's probably forced by the publisher or editor to add them to be able for his work to get published
@@Byte_frst7 nah he himself likes it
luckily for you mf ghost is getting a season 2 in october 6
@@LanEvoSimp lol, I literally one of top comments when that trailer drop days ago
the angels in MF Ghost are so unnecessary, literally watched initial D with the fam but had to watch this alone
agree.. my mother used to watch initial D (live action). She liked it so much that she kept watching it again and again. So i tot it would be a good idea to watch mfg with her sometimes. But when i see the angels, well nvm.
Initial D had those fan service scenes in the extra stage episodes.
A back story on Bunta would’ve been so fire. In stage 1 episode 23, when Keiichi calls Bunta over the phone , we get a peak into the professional side of racing Bunta was once involved in. A prequel focusing on how Bunta got into Group A racing, how he did against Touge downhill racers in his day, and the relationship with his father would be a solid story. And if they can revert back to the OG animation from stage 1, *chefs kiss.
Bunta is one of those characters that works better in the mystery, this dude is just THAT good and it leaves people wondering. The fact then that you get these wonderful little teases of him coming back and smokin' Takumi on the streets was hype.
Although I wouldn't object to a bit more on Bunta, it should just be a single OVA/special episode to just fill a gap in or two, giving people a bit of info while still leaving you wanting more.
Ir's sad how most of these compalints can be answered if you looked into the manga and realized "".. oh this was literally in the MF manga"
That doesn't really make it better. If anything, the anime is a significant improvement on the Manga.
Yeah, the manga itself is mid. That's what you're looking for.
@@ieurobeatkids9378not to the scale of initial d adaptation tho. One improvises the entire series with spirit and soul, the other merely makes the characters move.
In fact, you can compare the gas-drinking skit from the initial d manga to anime. You'll see what I mean.
@donnycorn3086 I never compared it do initial d. Improvising only works when you have the time to do it, while still staying faithful to the source material. The race itself took up like 1/3rd of the season, the romance too up another 1/3rd. Not much space left to do Improvising.
The main ways the Anime improves is Character design and action. The characters in the Manga look like blob-fish, and the overtakes have 0 feeling. The pacing is also slightly better in the anime, but they couldn't really do much, and it just gets worse as the story continues.
Some scenes I expect from MF Ghost-
1. Keisuke taking his FD again to make new records for the course which were broken by Porsche Cayman
2. Keisuke and Kyoko together and Mako and Iketani too
3. Takumi vs Kanata with their AE86 and GT86 on Akina
4. And the antagonist getting humbled by Ryouske in his FC
1. The public records aren't his true times. He wasn't pushing to the fullest, said it himself during race 5. He will be setting new times and actually trying for the next season.
2. Keisuke isn't married to Kyoko, but it's going to be someone "Surpsrsing" according to Shigeno. Iketani is still single and still working at the Gas station. Absolute bum.
3. The 86 was sent to the scrapyard, to idk how that would work.
4. Ryosuke has been retired since before project d, and is a doctor full time. Why would he be racing.
What you're asking for is just Initial D 2. That's not what MF Ghost is. For better or for worse.
@@ieurobeatkids9378 I read somewhere that AE86 was did send to scrapyard but some other kid from Akina bought it and swapped the engine. And used it for some time for racing and drifting and then only it was scrapped.
I know race against the Grim Reaper R32 was Ryouske's last race but it wouldn't be bad to humble a cocky white ass bit(h and get some nostalgia at the same time.
How the hell just these 4 requests gonna make a new series? All I'm asking for is some cherries.
And BTW this season of MF Ghost wasn't good anyway. They stretched a 2 lap race a whole season. There were annoying _angels_ and flashbacks ruining the intense mood of the race. And Kanata had no character development by the end of the season.
Only race scenes, cars and technical info was great.
@@ieurobeatkids9378 Ryosuke can race on his spare time. A full time doctor but the creator of MFG means he has a lot of free time to be able to pull that kind of stuff.
@jrbudoybudoy Not really. He's never actively involved in MFG due to his main job. There's a reason he makes Keisuke and Fumihiro take care of all if MFG's operations.
He was literally in the middle of a surgery when qualifying was happening lol.
@@ieurobeatkids9378when was the 86 taken to a scrap yard ion rem that
We were supposed to get a sequel about rally but the old man couldn't hold his desires with underaged girls and panties. But still the show has some potential, if we ignore the fan service and look at basckstories of og charecters and animation
I know old ass 90s JDM car thanks to this anime.
If not all I’ll drive is a Prius
Now i want both Over Rev and My Favorite Carrera got an anime adaptation
You are cooking my favorite carrera could go crazy, also now that we goin for the underdogs what about a remake of ex driver
Dammnnn, someone remembers Over Rev! Just having an adaptation would be nice.
@@Angrynood the lastest chapter i read was Ch.267 and i'm glad it still continue the translation
SS and Donten Prism Solar Car is good too
Personally I didn't like it at all lol but I think I've made that clear. I posted a comment on the MFG subreddit the other day where I explained how I would change the series to address what I think the biggest problems are from a story perspective (and I got downvoted lmao) but here's what I would do to make MFG work.
The story of MFG just doesn't work because there's not enough room for Kanata to grow as a racer and as a character he's too emotionless and quiet for us to know much about him, but also the search for his dad and why he's even competing in MFG aren't particularly clear at all. There are elements there that could be tweaked to make him searching for his dad more important. Make it so instead of his mother being dead she's still sick so he needs the money from MFG for her treatment. Make him resentful of his dad for running off so he wants to confront him about abandoning his family while his mother is dying. With those changes now we have a strong character motivation, the races actually matter, and Kanata has goals that connect both the races and his personal journey. While we're at it, make Kanata more angry and emotional. We got quiet (though not at all emotionless) with Takumi, so let's have someone more similar to Keisuke as a lead to make it more distinct from ID. I'd also eliminate the "trained by Takumi in a world class racing academy" backstory because it makes him insanely uninteresting because he can just do anything and is capable of everything from the very beginning. Make him a poor kid who learned his skills street racing and is now trying to break into the elite racing class with nothing but raw skill to save his mother's life and he has an extremely hard time keeping up with these high end sports cars. This would also be good because it would feel like us as fans of initial D and street racing are "graduating" to the big leagues, something that was always talked about in Initial D, but with Kanat's family drama and new bolder personality, it also feels a lot more fresh and interesting. At this point you may be saying "this is just a completely different series now" and yeah you're right, because everything I'm changing are elements that make MFG boring. Oh and the angels no longer exist. If they absolutely NEED to exist, Ren is in her 20s now and joined the angels because she loves racing and this was the best way she could think of to be close to the action but ultimately still doesn't like it and Kanata teaches her to drive, she leaves the angels and that's how they fall in love. Also no more qualifying runs. Idk exactly how I'd make that work but ultimately I find qualifying runs really boring and as it is rn they're technically more important than the races themselves, so there should be something else. Maybe he just can pay a fee to enter in so that could add tension that he has to use money he desperately needs for his mother's treatment to gamble himself on a race he has little chance of winning and that can show us how he's fucking insane or something. Which would be endearing and cool when he actually places well. Oh and Sawatari is gone. He doesn't exist anymore.
I have no more hopes for MF Ghost unless they retcon the entire story to be on par with what you suggested rather than just following the original crap story.
DISCUSSION:
-What would happen if one competitor would've brought a Hillclimb spec car? Will it decimate the competition?
Examples:
-Carlsson Mercedes 'SLK340'
Weighting only 790 kilos and producing an impressive 610 HP at 11,300RPM from a Judd 3.4L V8, it is among the fastest hillclimbers in Europe. You can search for more infos about it in the channel 'FIA Hillclimb Masters'.
I've had a previous argument in reddit about the use of Shaken regulation (Road legality of cars in Japan), and found no evidence of such thing being said in the manga, wiki, and anime. It only mandates the use of wider or thinner tires (bridgestones), regarding to the 'grip-to-weight ratio' (which tbh, never been implemented to any existing motorsport category).
Also, the MFG regulation never explicitly state the use of slick tires, weight reduction, extensive aero parts, pit stops, tire warmers (I assume its legal because we can see it in the OP), etc.
The winning driver is also rewarded aproximately 600k USD each race, and it can easily cover your build in a race (or two at most). That leaves you with 3 Million of prize money per season, given your car is reliable to win 5 races.
This left so many plotholes.
I can feel your pain. I got the same treatment there. The Subreddit is just so narrow-minded. Honestly, one of my worst experience on Reddit.
Plus, the story is mediocre at best, and that's me being generous. No development on every characters, nobody treat the championships as the real deal. It'll be great if there's stake in line, and characters too root for.
Good to know that I'm not alone on this.
I'll be honest, I kept up with the manga until it was announced that it was becoming an anime. I already knew it was gonna suck and I tried to let people know to not get their hopes up, but people ended up disappointed anyways. Gotta give credit to the marketing team though. They appealed to the fanbase's nostalgia and sold them on the idea it was gonna be good. Anyways, I'm just disappointed that this is the legacy of Initial D. It could've been a lot better.
id love to see a car anime/manga where the MC starts from the bottom and grows to the top. Not like takumi, atleast a different concept of starting from the bottom if you get what i mean
try Over-Rev!
It is much better than Initial D in literally every single category (better artstyle IMO, better story overall, more diverse and fleshed out characters, more varied racing, and more varied cars from Civic to Camaro, and better fanservices).
@@michaelskoomamacher5652 Lost me at fanservice. Don't need that bullshit.
correction: it is actually grip to weight ratio
the heavier the cars the thicker the tyres and vise versa
Which makes no sense from a logical point of view
@@Chr.Monika6469 it does. It would explain why is a mere gt86 able to compete. They had to do some weird regulation to make the plot armor believable
Overtake was more captivating and fresh with well developed characters in a relatable narrative.
Darn I need to finish it. Was waiting for the episodes to fully come out and forgot
@@javianbrown8627I will say two words. DO IT. It’s the polar opposite of MFG with much more depth, more accurate racing feel. I like to compare it to saying watching Initial D vs Capeta. Funny thing it’s a similar car racing comparison from the same era with the same problem. Initial D had characters that had issues with being 2 dimensional vs Capetas characters are very well fleshed out, and Initial D focuses on street races vs Capeta also is more pro/formula racing. Same thing happens with overtake vs MFG
Surprised to see someone talk about Overtake. I still need to finish it but it's nice to see that people still know of it.
@@Angrynood Sadly it just didn’t get the marketing MFG got. And it shows in the video, how he was like “MFG had no competition” meanwhile Overtake was running exactly at the same time.
@@philipbarton3456 Initial D really carries the hype for MFG. Unfortunately that's just how it's gonna be, so other racing anime will find it hard to compete.
My Personal review:
*visuals & graphics: 8/10
*Story : 2/10
*Character : -10/10
*Races : 4/10 (lacks intensity and build up)
*Immersion : 4/10
Verdict : Meh as a anime. Shit as a initial D successor.
Music, melodies and sound effect2 :2/10, none are epic or are having impact. Engine and tires sounds are decent at least.
They add too much romance, too much chick. So very boring
@@oldmanhavefunand the romance plot just.... doesn't go anywhere? If you read the manga, then... you'll know.
This Is Why Initial D Is Good Because The Characters There ( Including Takumi ) Always Never Have A Long Lasting Relationship LMAO
Compared to other animes from today, i would give the visuals a 5 out of 10
I thought this video was about someone becoming the next MF Doom
Someone said everything is a hit or miss until past chapter 90, which is 🔥
Completely agreed
Unworthy. It relies too much on nostalgia and Initial D without having much substance to stand on its own two feet. It's dissapointing but at least we get eurobeat, I suppose? We should have gotten that Rally sequel that was in the works.
I think they use rock covers of some eurobeat songs used in initial d, or at least thats what i heard in a clip of a race from the series. Also, i still want the race between takumi and keisuke
Huh, I've never heard of the Rally sequel rumors. Was that gonna be about Takumi and his adventure into WRC?
@@Angrynood pretty much.
@@Erickwilliamlee Hmm, interesting. I'd have to agree with you. It would've been more engaging if we had a more natural progression of time.
The one who needs a revamp or sequel is ' Capeta '
Finally someone pointed the obvious at 8:34
no one here seems to have pointed it out but Kanata is the given name, Livington and Katagiri are the surnames he used, unless there's a joke that's gone over my head
The creator of initial d said that if he ever made initial d 2 he would make it about takumis rally carrier and i find it so fucking cool
And he didn't do that, so what's cool about it?
"comment the colour of your underwear" my brother, this is the first video of yours i found, wtf
Initial D out of the races is pretty cool still, the characters are good enough to have their time.
I mean i don't think so in my opinion
Since everything in Initial D was just so good and the scenes are all iconic because of the Eurobeat songs whenever something crazy is about to happen
I think the creepy pedo is suppose to be the Mercedes driver from inital d it has head lights that look similar
Dude, don't use the word pedophile willy-nilly.
A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (kids who didn't even get to puberty).
Pedophilia is a psychopathology.
However, it is completely different to being attracted to adolescents, that isn't pedophilia, it is an _ephebophilia._
Which may be socially unacceptable today, but it is in a whole different category because it is not a psychopathology by the simple reason that post-pubescent adolescents are signaling fertility (physical maturity and pheromones), and adults are receptive to fertility signals.
So this is not just po-tay-to/po-tah-toh, it is a huge difference.
TL;DR *Ephebophilia* is about being sexually attracted to mid-to-late adolescents (post-pubescent) which _is biologically natural,_ no need to feel guilty about finding a teen attractive, but because we are living in a civilized society we recognize that it is improper for the power asymmetry and the high risks for abuse, so it is morally proper to hold our horses.
*Pedophilia* is about being attracted to _pre-pubescents,_ which is unjustifiable by evolutionary psychology, as it makes zero sense to feel sexually attracted when there is zero fertility signaling from children, this is why pedophilia is defined as a _paraphilia_ and it is a _psychopathology._
So if you find sexually atttracted to a teen, just take a cold shower.
If you find attracted to a child, seek psychological and psychiatric support.
gatekeeping pedophilia
Gooners trying to find excuses for their immoral behavior belike
@@RealMakarov your cringe for even using gooner
@@Codedx5 Coomers at least feels bad about it, "gooners" dont, and thats the biggest problem
@@RealMakarov they're literally the same thing
Gooners and coomers are literally just fancy ways to say simps
4:51 the regulation is grip to weight ratio not power to grip ratio. Power is unrestricted so they started calling it the rich man's regulation because everybody racing started using high horsepower european models which were unattainable unless you were rich
they better cook next season, i mean a whole ass buffet
Iirc the anime correctly you are wrong regarding the grip to power ratio in MFG, it is grip to weight ratio.
The heavier the car the broader the tires can be. Otherwise it would make more sense to have small cars with highly tuned engines that have tons of power outpout instead of heavier cars like an Lamborghini, or Nissan GTR, which are quite heavy compared to the Alpine 110 or Lotus.
I wish Takumi was still here 😭
He always in my heart
He is not dead he is living somewhere in the UK with his wife Mika.
@@earlgumban yeah but this really misses the opportunity for fans to connect to the new.
For a good sequel the main characters need to backseat. But the way it's done here reminds me of yashahime the sequel to inuyasha. The author forced themselves to come up with a story why the old main is backseating. It doesn't feel like he wanted the story this way which lead to bland characters and an unsatisfying brake with the original.
In my opinion a good sequel could have most main characters from the original visible in the first few episodes. They are aged and aren't in the center of attention. Maybe they are the parents of the new main characters maybe not. But they should play an active support role like a team for the new main characters. This would be a good setting to naturally include flash backs to further tie the fans back in. Maybe the old main characters scattered after the original end and are gathered unknowingly by the new main characters creating a sense of nostalgia most fans would feel along with as there is a lot of time between the 2 shows.
I think with something along these lines and a heavier focus on eurobeat mfg would have had the potential to bridge the decade long gap.
This half assed story with uninspiring secrecy about the old mains which feels like it's written to make the old fans cut ties with the old characters and focus on the new is just not how you successfully make a sequel.
@@redcrafterlppa303 Spoiler maybe: in the later part of the series he'll probably make a cameo appearance Ryosuke and Mika already make an appearance in one of the latest manga chapters.
I like Kanata, I just feel like we'll get a better feel for him as we go on
I'm the type of car enthusiast who will watch anything and everything that is car related that includes amine
Bro my favorite character is the commentator they make this anime 110 better!
Salvatori was an old compotetor of kanata, thats the point of him
MF angels should just stay in the background. Really a relationship with a pit girl would be more interesting without creepy undertones.
Bro could easily go to the police and ask help to find his stupid dad without the convoluted plot of joining a looked down upon racing event, where 99% of the drivers are so incompetent that they're almost beaten by a guy in an underpowered budget sports car while the rules makes zero sense.
Remember that this is the 4th year of this competition has been running, there are no rules against aero nor modification, and yet nobody is exploiting this gaping abyss of a loophole.
Sick thumbnail!
omg there it is, my Civic Type R!!
who could see his own car?
Actually some itasha car guy does a great job with the decals. But some just put it to their car just to say they are one of the itasha guys
I would recommend to read the manga before passing judgements. Honestly, the video felt rather lackluster because it only focused on the story till the point season 1 of the anime was made. I will admit that even the manga feels rather mundane outside of the races but it really does delve into Kanata, his backstory and his journey in Japan. Understand that Kanata by nature is a closed up person and he is in a country where he doesn't know many people. As you would progress in the story you would see Kanata open up slowly with Ren as the pair would hunt for clues to find Kanata's father. In the end, if you are going to compare MF Ghost with Initial D, then yes, it is going to severely pale in comparison. But by itself it is a decent story with hints of Initial D here and there which makes it rather endearing to read through. For instance, were you aware that while reading through the manga, you'll find that Takumi ended up marrying Mika Uehara (his GF in 5th Stage)? Or the fact that other than the Takahashi brothers, characters from Todo School and Zero Academy also make appearances as guest commentators? There is a lot of interesting tid bits about our old favorite characters which makes me want to go through this story. If nothing else it helps us glean into what became of the characters post Initial D.
I hope once the show continues they spend some more time developing the characters
And catch up with the tie in of the old characters with the new. I think the start lost a lot of traction by making the old main characters mysterious and scarce.
If the show started with an ae86 drifting around corners at the end revealing takumi in the passenger seat and the new main driving would have been a much better kickoff compared to whatever this was.
I swear the haters are just people who watched Initial D clips on youtube and think they know what the original was about. MF ghost is a good successor to Initial D. As for 8:37, Initial D had a similar plotline for those who actually watched through the
melo drama and not only clips of the races.
Cant wait to see season 2 on 6th October
I like Kouki, but not as a character. He's quite the bad-ass driver (as Season 2 will show) and that's enough to turn the "i only date 17 year olds" into a void.
Btw i liked how you didn't say the cookie cutter "shitbox 86 running down Lambos and Ferraris" line, because that didn't happen(in the first race).
Kouki is indeed fast but there was no reason to make him a creep
@@Safan118 fr😭
@@Safan118 The anime/manga's purpose is to show that he is a creep although it is kinda null given the fanservice
Y'all are really gonna dislike how they end the search for Kanatas dad
Worth it
Best thing about this anime is
The race
Yes only the race
Nah, it's bad.
4:47 I thought it was Uniformed Grip to weight ratio.
kanata Revington, Kanata Katagiri
we SHOULD compare it to initial d, this is the sequel it deserves to be criticized by the standards of the prequel like any other movie
In my opinion, NOTHING will ever compare to initial D season 1 and 2 but from what ive seen so far mf ghost seems decent. Im probably gonna binge it all once season 2 is done
If only they made Over-rev anime, would easily top Initial D.
I had the manga and enjoyed it until Project D is formed, a read a couple more volumes and then just tailed off after that. I just feel that at the Project D point you can kinda just see it as an ending of sorts so I was content.
Do hold Initial D close to my heart though.
@@LeeONardo same for the anime in my opinion, it feels kind of soulless after the first couple episodes of season 4
mf ghost is like being punched in the balls and then being given 10 cents as an apology
and then burning your house down
The driving is good so i approve
Never heard of such measurement being taken to any form of Motorsport regulations. Power-to-weight, yes. But weight-to-grip? Simply changing tire dimensions doesn't ensure fair competition due to several reasons:
Power Delivery
More power needs more grip to be usable. Mismatching tire width to power can lead to excessive wheel spin or underutilization of available power.
Handling Characteristics
Larger tires can improve grip but might affect the steering response and overall agility. Also, they increase mass and rotational inertia.
Safety and Reliability
Over or under-sizing tires for a car's weight and power can lead to increased wear, potential failure, and able to affect braking and handling.
Let's see what the MFG competitors are running and compare this to Nurburgring laptimes, which have similar characteristics to most courses in MFG. Tight and long corners, straights) :
Ishigami - 991.1 GT3 Clubsport (Pre Facelift):
475 hp, RWD
*7 min 32 sec*
Akaba - 488 GTB:
660 hp, RWD.
*7 min 21 sec*
Oishi - Huracan LP610-4:
610 hp, AWD
*7 min 28 sec*
Aiba - R35 Nismo (Anime S1) (2017):
592 hp, AWD
*7 min 36 sec* (Road Legal)
*7 Min 8 sec* (N-Attack Package (Not Street Legal))
Hanninen - LC500:
471 hp, RWD.
*NO DATA. Won 2018 24 Hours of Nurburgring SP-PRO class. *
Greene (Manga) - V8 Vantage:
503 hp in newer models, RWD
*7 Min 43 Sec*
Beckenbauer (Manga) - 718 Cayman GT4:
493 hp, RWD
*7 Min 42 sec*
Moroboshi (Manga) BLITZ GR Supra:
SZ-R (Anime): 258 hp (B48 2.0L I4 ), RWD
RZ (Manga): 382 hp (B58 3.0L I6), RWD
*7 Min 52 sec (RZ)*
I'll be generous that the brake upgrade and aero kit went well, so I'll deduct 5-10 seconds from the run.
*Between 7 Min 47 sec to 7 Min 42 sec*
Yanagida (Manga) - M4 DTM Championship Edition:
493 hp, RWD
*7 Min 28 Sec* (Pistonheads.com)
Sawatari (Manga) - A110R:
296 hp, RWD
*7 Min 35 sec*
Sakamoto (Anime S1) - R8 V10 Plus:
610 hp, AWD
*7 Min 32 sec*
Ohtani (Manga) - AMG GT R:
577 hp, RWD
*7 Min 11 sec*
Taylor - 991.1 Carrera GTS:
450 hp, RWD (4S is AWD)
*7 min 24 sec* (991.2 PDK.)
Kitahara - Alfa 4C Competizione:
237 hp, RWD
*8 min 4 sec*
Yashio (Anime S1) - Exige S 360 Cup:
355 hp, RWD.
*7 min 48 sec (Cup 380)*
Maezono - (Anime S1) Civic Type R (FK8):
306 hp, FWD.
*7 Min 44 sec (Honda weight reduction test)*
*8 Min 1 sec (Sport Auto test)*
Katagiri (Manga Final Spec) ZN6 GT86:
296HP,RWD with various modification mostly towards balance and gear ratio.
From the wiki:
Engine Overhaul (Rebalancing and High Load Parts) (300PS/296HP)
BLITZ TURBO SYSTEM with B06-380R Turbo
Nardi Deep Corn Sport Rally Steering Wheel
BLITZ BIG CALIPER KIT II Brakes
BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R Coilover Kit
BLITZ NUR-SPEC StyleD Exhaust System
BLITZ Suction Kit Intake and Carbon Power Air Cleaner
BLITZ Thro Con Throttle Controller[14]
Enkei PF-05 Wheels (Dark Silver)
BLITZ Stickers on Front Fenders
BLITZ Racing Meter Panel (Oil Pressure, Water Temperature, Turbo Boost)
Custom OEM Style Carbon Fiber Hood
BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R SpecDSC PLUS ZN6/ZC6 86/BRZ Active Suspension (Damping force 16 (front), 20 (back))
TRD Toyota 86 14R Limited Edition Aero Kit (Front Bumper, Front Fender, Side Skirt, Rear Bumper, Rear Diffuser, Center-Exit Exhaust, 18’ Magnesium Ultralight Wheels)
Stock Carbon Filter Roof
TOM’S V1 LED Tail Lights
TRD Monoblock Big Brake Kit
Closer Gear Ratios with a Shorter Final Drive
*Stock 8 Min 45 sec*
*Let's say Upgraded ver. might cut down it between the lower 8 seconds. (Anime MC momento)*
*Keep in mind that series like DTM is only separated by average of 1,5 seconds in terms of qualifying. Running multiple laps in a track twice as long as the Nordschleife will put a significant gap between each cars.) (www.dtm.com/en/results)
There's a method of achieving balance in motorsport, called BoP (Balance of Performance). Let's say, in context of GT3, if a specific vehicle have a competitive edge over the other, they would add weight, limit engine power, adjust the tires (but to a certain degree) and regulate aerodynamics to ensure a more competitive field.
For example:
Audi R8 LMS GT3
Engine: 5.2L V10 naturally aspirated
Power Output: Approximately 500-580 hp (varies due to BoP)
Weight: Minimum weight around 1225 kg (subject to BoP adjustments)
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive
2. Mercedes-AMG GT3
Engine: 4.0L V8 twin-turbocharged
Power Output: Around 500-550 hp (varies due to BoP)
Weight: Minimum weight approximately 1285 kg (subject to BoP adjustments)
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive
3. Porsche 911 GT3 R
Engine: 4.0L flat-six naturally aspirated
Power Output: Typically between 500-550 hp (adjusted by BoP)
Weight: Minimum weight about 1230 kg (can vary with BoP)
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive
4. Ferrari 488 GT3
Engine: 3.9L V8 twin-turbocharged
Power Output: Estimated 500-600 hp (BoP dependent)
Weight: Minimum weight around 1245 kg (subject to BoP changes)
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive
5. BMW M6 GT3
Engine: 4.4L V8 twin-turbocharged
Power Output: Roughly 500-585 hp (adjusted by BoP)
Weight: Minimum weight typically 1300 kg (varies with BoP)
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive
Tires:
Audi R8 LMS GT3:
Front: 325/680-R18
Rear: 325/705-R18
Mercedes-AMG GT3:
Front: 325/660-R18
Rear: 325/705-R18
Porsche 911 GT3 R:
Front: 300/660-R18
Rear: 330/705-R18
Ferrari 488 GT3:
Front: 325/680-R18
Rear: 325/705-R18
BMW M6 GT3:
Front: 325/680-R18
Rear: 325/705-R18
A larger contact patch generally provides more grip, which is why you see specifications like "325/680-R18" where 325 refers to the tire width in millimeters, and 680 indicates the sidewall height (aspect ratio). The final component, "R18", refers to the rim diameter in inches.You can see that the difference are measurable within the milimetres, which promotes on-track safety and lap time consistency between each cars, as official tire suppliers are able to collect valuable data to balance the field even further.
In a nutshell, weight-to-grip (whatever it is), does not create an even playing field to such a difference field of cars.
that's kinda the point, at the beginning they do point out it gives an insane advantage to exotics and Italian imports.
though the tire thing is used in some classes, Gridlife's GLTC comes to mind. It's also power-to-weight limited, but there's a weight bracket system for average tire width, eg a 2000lbs car would be allowed up to 240 average width tires but a 3000lbs car can run 285 average or whatever. and they're locked to 200treadwear. you can see this in Gears and Gasoline's civic type R and camry-swapped MR2 builds for GLTC
@@arielfernandez8196 Yep, that's a good point to add. A variation of tire width and weight brackets are great ways to ensure balance. GLTC's 12.5 lbs/HP, power-to-weight ratio is also a notable method.
GLTC's regulation works because it provides clear instructions of how you should build your car, based on the ruleset. Even adding brackets to specific engine families, aerodynamics (shape & width), gearbox, etc.
However, in MFG's context, everything becomes a bit vague. It's not your standard race track, it's a road course twice the size of the Nurburgring. Calculating balance for each variation of cars could be more than challenging.
Simply swapping tires based on weight while not accounting for other factors such as CoG, downforce, gear ratio, and power output simply doesn't work. There are just too many loopholes. Also, most vehicles here are listed as stock and receive minimal modifications.
My opinion is, that without a clear indication on where the regulation is going to, potentially people would be building their cars based on WTAC or FIA Hillclimb Monsters series.
TBH I love the new perspective you gave me. Thanks a million!
why did the alpine get such a bad character as its driver, my fav car in the whole show ong
It was cool to see the fk8 in mf ghost mainly cuz I drive one but it did not live up to the races of inital d
I'm hoping it pulls a reverse initial d and gets more interesting as the seasons go
Answering the title: no it can't
I do agree with 100% of the criticism directed outside of the racing scenes but I do feel like you're underselling the racing here.
Yeah, you like racing and racing in general is good, therefore racing in this show is good. That's what you make it sound like, which is unfair. The integrity of the video, in general, is kinda weak too because you get so many things wrong. You name drop wrong cars, mix-up first names with surnames and you even got the premise of the grip-weight ratio wrong.
I think all the mostly accurate technical and racecraft knowledge from Initial D is still present here, which is more than what most other racing media has to offer. And some fresh ideas do make for some really interesting setups like the low visibility sections, where Kanata's memory gives him an advantage. Him using the periodic time difference against the car ahead of him to gauge the pace difference and estimate when it will be time to make a quick overtake move, etc.
It's hard to compare to Initial D with only 1 season but the animation and racing so far has been top notch imo.
Correction it is hard to find a pre facelift AE86 hot hatch for a decent price coupes from 1982 to 1987 and facelift hot hatches are going up in price but there not super high like the face lift hot hatch
This show got me to check out Initial D and its been fun.
The races only taking place during daytime has kinda killed it for me. Cant beat the aesthetics of racing at night
What I hate about the ng ghost is there's few episodes that focused on the angels too much
Its not power to grip, its weight to grip
Never heard of such measurement being taken to any form of Motorsport regulations. Power-to-weight, maybe. But power-to-grip?
@@gonnaleaveamark go watch the anime, why would ryosuke want more powerful cars to have more grip. In mf ghost heavier cars have fatter tires
@@am_sousa2246 Which provides them with more grip. Higher surface contact means better traction and overall grip.
In case you don't know, I've read the manga, it's up until the final race. Clearly, everything is still nonsensical.I've actually made a comment debunking the theory. You can look for it if you sort by new.
@@gonnaleaveamark in initial d universe weight has a LOT of effect in cornering speed thats my theory
I love this show. It's just fun and i watched this first before initial d
you WHAT!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
@@mikagamihara hey mf ghost gave me the motivation to watch initial d
👀
@@fairplaygaming4725 what?
@@djdrago9712 Go watch initial d its much better than this shit.
Well if they do a 1 for 1 adaptation of the manga, it runs on nostalgia factor with the exact formula as Initial D, the MFG Angels as your standard fan service and street circuit style racing. What I really dont like are the so called "tourists" with the conventional racing arguments such as:
-how can an 86 beat a Ferrari
-how can bigger tires make a car slower and lose grip on corners
and your average western anime fan:
-pedophile 21 year old hits on 17 year old girl
-why are they dressed like that.
Its as if people forget its an anime. At the end of the day, I still prefer Initial D over MF Ghost but its always nice to watch cars go fast with accompanying eurobeat even it doesnt make sense in the real world.
Ive been into initial d for a long time, and this is fine. Doesnt have the same street style that i loved but its still a really good show. Are there things i dont like? Of course but still the racings really good
In fact, if it's eurobeat and it's not new and nothing changes, they're just different rhythms
Psdt. There is something that many do not understand: MFG is not a sequel to initial D, but a spiritual successor 🧐☝️
Hot Take: a 2018 Ford GT would be a good opponent in MF ghost while being the only american car that can appear
Valid. 2017 Viper ACR Extreme Aero works too. Vipers has a near 50/50 weight distribution and a ton of downforce.
@@gonnaleaveamark but if mfg really add american car I'm pretty sure the author will make the driver a dickhead cause it's a american car ಥ_ಥ
@@Popo_Cruiser All European, that is?
Michael, Kouki (Hononary European, I guess? He's nearly a French), Emma (Sorta)?
Oh yeah, spoilers for the manga. Kouki's character development is just dead in the manga. There's Emma Greene (AM Vantage) who only did 1 race (shame. Her character is the most interesting), Sena Moroboshi (A90/A91 Supra), who is Keisuke's apprentice, and Sakurano (Who drives a panda ZN8 with no. 860. Basically a Kanata fan.)
what was written on the Side was "something in Japanese(I think)"
#throttlehouse
I will break in favour of MFG, at the begining Initial D does not have that complicated of a personality, also there is few informaiton as Takumi was the teacher of Kanata in the UK as he become a driving teacher in a racing school in the UK that for sure will take more notorious in the future. Also there is a "new guy" that did not arrive to the anime. Read the comic it is better than it looks.
I want a brz/gt86 and well the prices will rise to oblivion
The mother f...Ghost?
I think its an ok successor , the cars scenes are plentyful and pretty damn good , the things i would change would be getting rid of the girls and adding back eurobeat ,to me it just is a lil weird watching the gt86,lotus and alpha romeo duke it out for positions, to immediately the shot of a girls ass that has nothing yo do with whats going on , id rather it be like it was when inital d was still going on we had the slieighty girls and takumis girls that was it anything else theyd be background characters or side characters, to me its the girls that really take away alot from this series like yea race queens are an actual thing i mean look at super hot with the drift king and some of the episodes include them , so my main gripe is just keep it focused on racing and then give an episode where we get to learn and get to know the drivers more and what happened for them to be where they are now just like intial d and then if they want to give us fan service go ahead , so ye , to me theirs to much of fan service and it really just makes it just seem weird,
Ive been into initial d for a long time, and this is fine. Doesnt have the same street style that i loved but its still a really good show. Are there things i dont like? Of course but still the racings really good
its okay you enjoyed the anime but fact of the matter is the racing in this show is far worse than initial d.
@@bullymaguire8380 oh I definately agree. It doesn't hold a candle. But then again I don't think there's going to be anything as good as initial d coming out. They didn't even dub the final stage of initial d and I'm still raging
i planned to watch tihs one. but kinda confused. as my starting is from wangan midnight. though I see some episode of initial D, I know those 2 kinda good. but have 0 idea about this one.
0:46
Ah hell nah💀
8:49 they missed the perfect chance to give him the number 17....
Yes it is but I hate the angels lol
I like it :)
Prequel of Bunta and like another Anime before like intial d and mf ghost because they are like 20 years apart
i wanna see takumi rallying
How the hell they didn't rebadge the Nissan Leaf in 4:14 ?
Unpopular opinion, Initial D was never really that good.
I always felt that Wangan Midnight was a much better portrayal of cars and driving. In Initial D, it wasn't about the cars and racing, it was about Takumi.
At least Initial D races are somewhat believable. Sorry MFG but there isn't a single bit of road or track in the world where that 911, 488 and Huracan would be challeneged by a GT86 that isn't a full out race car on slicks and with at least GT4 levels of downforce. The GR86 Cup car though, that would be a different story.
Not important, but it was actually switched with tires. bigger power, smaller tires, weaker power, bigger tires, also Regionally speaking that dude isn't a pedo since japan has a 16yr old age of consent (yes its still gross to me because 18 is the limit in Murica..though honestly feels more like 20 is the morally acceptable range imo, depending on the older ones age obviously)
I feel like you're looking way too deep into this. I don't think the show is boring when they aren't racing at all. If anything I want to learn more about the world and the characters. Also someone going to a different country to look for an estranged parent is not that strange and becoming popular by racing which is the thing he's good at isn't a terrible plan. MF Ghost is a huge thing in universe. If his dad watches TV then he'll hear about it and might try and reach out and it's not like he isn't looking on foot. The angels being sexualised makes perfect sense if you know anything about the car scene especially the 90s, early 00s street racing scene. Majority of women were there as eye candy. I agree her being 17 and a character who because his favourite number is 17 he only likes 17 year olds thing is not great but if you watch anime you know what japan is like with that kind of stuff (I point at the SAO tentacle scene) so just let it slide. Oh and in regards to how you find Kanata a bit blank well I disagree. I've genuinely known people like that.
Absolutely, but only for the ones that enjoiyed initial d from 4th stage onwards.
In my not humble oponion Initial D ends with 3rd stage making takumi learn and choose his fate after being an oblivious teenager. Takumi learns 95% of its development on the first 3rd stages, wins "serious" races by chance making him learn way less than he should be. Yeah, he won by chance many times before, but no in a "semi professional amateur" way, I care more about the FOREVEEEEEER guy than takumi itself in that race.
Keisue steals the show from 4th stage onwards, no doubt about it and not open to discuss it. When you have two protagonists and one is weaker in its role Initial D the show feels hollow.
MF Ghost is everything that was wrong from 4th stage onwards and multiplied by 10.
I mean, I dare to say that even Shigeno does not understand its show. MF Ghost is built around this underdog theme, excuse me? what underdog in Initial D? Takumi's car was underpowered for sure but with its experience he was basically the pro of the novices, skill was not always his problem if you watch the show, it was being actually a sports driver, he was always able to pull his tricks, but he had the "problem" to learn where to put them. And when he understood that his car was not up to his skills, it ends blowing up in the Sudo race. Until this time Takumi's car was always tuned by bunta in the suspension part for the akina races, he never went handicaped, and when he literally did he learned how to drive in the middle of the race. After the renascimento of the AE86 the power goes for almost 250hp and some time later in the Project D the car was professionaly tuned for the races. Where is the motherfucking underdog there?
And then we just have a puny car in MFG with only 200hp wining against AWD more powerful cars than his.
Grip to weight ratio is so backwards it took me out a bit.
no one sleep in tokyo....
Long live car lovers
I know I'm late to the party, but what MFG highlights is the cultural differences between the Japanese and US.
Age of consent is 16 in Japan, and that was just recently raised from 13 in 2023. There is an entire subplot of Natsuki engaging in an enjo kōsai, or sugar daddy, relationship in the Initial D manga.
Does that excuse the "plot" in MFG? No, as highlighted there is really very little REAL plot to begin with. MFG is stuck with the curse of trying to predict the future and wrapping og Initial D characters in it.
"Age of consent is 16 in Japan, and that was just recently raised from 13 in 2023" This is simply not true as has been an internet myth for ages.
@@jamielusions based on what? I was able to reference the Penal Code, specifically Article 176 and 177, and the associated amendments.
Regardless, my comment stands that there is a clear difference related to Japanese culture and the age of consent demonstrated in both the Initial D manga and MFG manga/anime.
@@jamielusions what i don't understand is those under 20 is still juvenile pretty much in east asian countries... but the age of consent is 16?
@@asmcinn that's for national minimum, but since forever practically all the region/prefecture in Japan (they can have their own rules, comparable to a US state) set the age of consent to 17-18yo. You can't even drink alcohol if you're below 20.
thats all bs, inital d did show nobody how cool jdm is, fast and the furious and need for speed underground did. a few years ago, most people didnt even know that anime. social media did make it big. i remember back in the days i did watch it and had literally nobody to talk about it, because nobody did know it.
I don’t like how everyone who meets the main character thinks “he’s so cool, kind, attractive, smart, incredible”. He is gods gift to the world in this show. That seems a bit over the top to me. I don’t like how obsessed with 17 year old girls people are.
With the original you were on the edge of your seat wondering “Would Takumi win? How is he going to do it because it seems impossible!”. But in this show the character doesn’t seem like he’s even trying so there’s no sense excitement.
Also a gt86 can not keep up with these cars in a straight line wtf lol I’ve owned 2 I know how slow they are.
I watch this anime not because I really enjoy it but because I enjoyed initial d so much and I really want to like this show as much too.
Yup, same for me!
Lol you complain that he's not even trying to win, as if he could in an 86 and then complain how the car is even keeping up. The car is not keeping up. Even if you can't tell by the results and positions, the show literally reminds you like a hundred times how underpowered that car is and how it's pace really slows down every time there's a straight section.
The tension in the show isn't about whether he can come in first place in every single event. It comes from trying to see how far he can get in this obviously underpowered car and what he does to achieve results.
@@blazekazama1793 are you trying have start a whole debate? My entire point is how unrealistic it is for the 86 to pass (for example) the lotus and Alfa on the straight. Not even pass, keep up with. I’ve had my foot planted in the frs many times and from 120mph to 130mph takes so long, there’s no way he should be able to pass a 4c on a straight. But he does. How he can keep up with and pass any car on the highway in the show is unrealistic. That’s my entire point lol. Car is amazing in turns and I agree it is. Dog water slow in straights. Stay upset I guess lol glad I can live rent free in your head.
@@mikehawk5466 lmao I replied to literally one comment. By that logic, I'm also officially living rent free in your head now. Stay mad?
If you actually watched the show, you'll notice that it's the 86 that gets passed by the lotus and alfa on the straight. Everytime the 86 passes, it's either late-braking into a corner and taking the inside apex, overtaking from the outside of a long corner or by faster corner exit speed. Not once does the 86 overtake on the raw straightways and only barely keeps up by towing.
So unless you have anything truthful to say, stop letting me live rent-free and stop replying.
@@blazekazama1793 just keep going until you let out that frustration little boy lol You were the first to get upset and try to start some sort of debate and you clearly still are 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll keep replying though. My original opinion still stands lol
0:46 wh... what is that?
Peak fictional media of course