Time stamps Segment featuring Morgan, Justin, and Morgxn: 2:45 Listener Write-ins Story 1: 5:40 Story 2: 15:08 Reddit Stories Story 1: 21:02 Story 2: 34:58 Story 3: 45:04 Story 4: 53:52 Segment featuring Morgan, Alejandra, and Obediah: 1:08:20 Story 1: 1:09:27 Story 2: 1:15:55 Story 3: 1:25:38 Story 4: 1:39:08 Story 5: 1:49:13 Story 6: 2:07:41
‘You can be really into sex but also really monogamous’ thank you I wish more people could wrap their heads around that. I’ve been called so many things bc of partners refusal to accept this
As a bigger girl, I have smaller friends who have complained about their bodies, being fat, flabby etc. I haven't always been happy in my body (positive affirmations do help,!) But when I hear my smaller friends complain it actually makes me feel like wow, we all hate our bodies. I find it relatable. When I was more uncomfortable in my body, I used to think wow what do they think of me?!? If they are fat I'm the fattest fat fat ever. But that came from a place of insecurity and self centered thinking. They aren't thinking about my body! They are insecure - HUMAN- just like me. We all have something to hate, I feel normal!!! Not insulted. Xo hope this take helps anyone.
To a certain extent I completely agree with you and as someone who used to be extremely thin (like size 0-2) and was at my largest at a size 28, and now float somewhere between size 16-22, this take isn’t ALL right. When objectively thin women fat shame themselves, they are to a certain extent thinking to themselves the worst thing in the world to them would be to look like me as an actually fat person.
I wanna hug you after reading this. :c I used to be pretty overweight (over 200 lbs at 5’3). For my body, it was unhealthy. Now I’m teetering on being underweight thanks to an autoimmune disease and I’m what’s considered “skinny fat.” I’ve lost a lot of strength and balance, but with meds it’s a bit better. Now that I’ve seen both sides of the weight spectrum, it’s opened my mind a lot on how society makes us hate our bodies regardless of what they look like. It’s important to remember that this impacts all of us and it doesn’t revolve around us as one person, but as a collective.
In my childhood, when talking about the future, my mom always said: 'You and your future husband..or wife.' Made coming out as bisexual really really easy
As a member of the lgbtq+ community, I’m really glad that you included morgxn’s point of view for this episode. I think they offer a unique perspective on this topic, and I’m glad you gave them the space to share their experience that so many of us can relate to too.
Good people do not SHUT OUT their grandkids weddings just cause it’s two of the same gender Good people SUPPORT OTHERS. Good people do not say their grandkids marriage is FAKE.
I loved Morgxn saying they can’t put aside the homophobia the way heterosexual people can. I’ve never thought about it like that, and I don’t think I’ll ever see it the same way again
@@NameName-yj7lp why are you using same-sex as the basis of your argument. If the whole LGBTQIAPD movement was just GLGLGLGL there would be order. The existence of more fluid and changing sexualities destroys the respectability of same-sex sexualities relationships. The LGBTQIADP movement is eating itself.
So, if a guy makes very little but always gives to help people in need regardless of their lifestyle, spends his time taking care of his elderly relatives, counsels any of his friends who call him needing a shoulder, even the lgbt ones, doesn't lie, cheat, steal, or purposely hurt anyone, but he disagrees with a couple of points propagated by the lgbt community, such as being gay being a choice or it being okay to not provide services for a gay wedding, he's a homofobe and thus a bad person? Okay, cool. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. You aren't changing anybody with that belief. Disagreeing with something is not murder, so the example used by Morgan and Morgxn doesn't make sense even though they really think it's a real gotcha move.What if a guy does all of the things listed above, helping others, caring for his elderly family, being a friend, etc, but he's gay, and one person doesn't want to accept him? I know how you'd feel about that, but what would you say? I think I know. Wouldn't you say, "That isn't fair. You can't reject a person based on just that one thing. He isn't hurting anyone, he just doesn't think the same way you do." I would actually agree with you in that instance, but you only seem to believe that a little bad outways a lot of good when someone disagrees with part of your narrative. The exact opposite is true when the one bit of bad is something you don't even think of as bad. Suddenly, we should look at the whole person. Funny how that works.
Reddit story 4 is so heartbreaking 😢 Telling a child that you are gay is not indoctrinating them, it is telling them your truth and teaching them about inclusiveness & unconditional love and bringing our world one step closer to being more accepting. She wasn’t pushing the child to be gay, she was simply telling him a fact.
I hope that in the future schools will have picture books for students featuring LGBTQ characters, and platforms like Disney will have more LGBTQ characters, as well. Small things like that could make a world of difference in terms of acceptance
Exactly that was just her being like “ I’m a lesbian, this is what lesbian is” and it’s normal. Simple if you wanna Yknow not make your child closed minded you have to let them meet other new people who are diffrent
If numbers of LGBTQ+ identifying people go up it’s because they finally feel safe and not that it is “contagious” or something. Who would even know to come out if it isn’t an option?
My mum was brushing my hair one day and asked me "are you gay?" I said no. She said "okay.... Are you bi?" I said yeah. It has never been mentioned again and my bisexuality is normal
I love love when Morgxn was saying what if we don't have to come out? That's how I'm trying to be with my kids. They just are, they can just be. Their sexuality isn't the end all be all. They are who they are, they're beautiful and valid. I'm so glad more people are raising children this way I know I'm not the only one.
My sister outed me (on purpose) about a week ago and yesterday my step mother literally tried to tell me I don’t like women just because I find a woman attractive 💀 Gurl I- no words😭‼️
First of all I love your pfp second of all your step mom is ignorant for thinking that way I’m so sorry your sister did that no one should be outed before they’re ready I hope all goes well with you 💛
1. Sister is awful I've had it happen twice 2. Step mom is also awful and hopefully she will get better but of she doesn't I'm sorry and 3. I'm sorry this has happened to you it's not fun to be outed I really hope you're okay :)
Fat shaming and skinny shaming are both bad but I think the belief that fat shaming is worse comes from the fact that most skinny shaming happens on a person to person basis whereas fat shaming happens on a larger scale. The media shamed fat people. When overweight people go to the doctors for something unrelated to weight, they’re stigmatized and often not diagnosed correctly. The fashion industry is built for skinny people for the most part. So fat shaming feels more universal vs a person to person issue. Both are awful though
As someone with the vast majority of the family belonging in the medical industry-- there is no "fat stigma" more often than not almost every single disease that an overweight person comes to a doctor with is more so weight related than any other statistical measure. A doctor telling you to lose weight to treat your hormonal imbalances is not a "misdiagnosis" or "a health concern completely unrelated to weight". Just as someone who is underweight presenting with insomnia caused by vitamin deficiencies will be told to gain some weight and eat a balanced diet for example. People think that a diagnosis is a one to one correlation, but fail to understand that the reason why doctors spend an additional 8-12 years in med school is to understand the vast schema of interconnected causes of diseases-- many of which are exacerbated and concealed by weight problems.
Fatshaming is worse than “skinny shaming” because fatphobia affects fat AND thin people. No matter how thin someone is they DO NOT want to be FAT. They want to “put on weight” “wish they weren’t so thin” but they do not want to be FAT. Thats why fatphobia is such a huge issue, it affects everyone because fat across all bodies is rejected and stigmatized.
As a female Christian whenever the time comes for me to have kids I plan on teaching about all types of relationships so they can learn who they are. I love this episode 😌
My mother used to tell me when I was a teen that I was allowed to bring home whoever or “whatever” I wanted. They could be any ethnicity as long as they weren’t a girl. Her biggest fear when I was going into college was that my roommate would be bisexual or pansexual (she heard a “horror” story from her bestie who’s daughter had a pansexual roommate with many sex partners). I’ve known that I am pansexual since I was about 16yrs and I’ll never tell my mom just because of these two instances. I’ll never feel comfortable enough to be honest with her about it.
i’m so sorry. i get it and it’s such a disheartening feeling. i hope you can find/have found your support group where you can be yourself unapologetically ❤
I really feel for the guy that has the homophobic grandparents. My entire family is Republican, so any time we talk about politics, it ends with me either crying in frustration or having a panic attack. Those talks have been banned recently, for obvious reasons. I have said my opinions, they have said theirs, and nothing would change that. If I cut off my family, I would be cutting out my biggest supporters and my best friends(siblings.) It sucks knowing that your family doesn’t hold your same values, especially when they treat you really well aside from that. It’s easy to say you would cut them out when they are just your grandparents, but cutting out people that help and love you through every day issues makes things a lot harder than you’d think. Also, I am a bisexual woman, if that puts anything in perspective.
Exactly. It’s hypocritical asf to cut people out of your life for not agreeing with your beliefs/views, but then to think they’re sooo wrong for doing the same exact thing only with THEIR beliefs. I can’t stand the double standards.
Yeah. He was definitely NOT the asshole. Grandparents are usually very important in close families. In some cultures, elders are the most important family. This expectation of excluding them is both unrealistic and ignorant. It is one day, and weddings are more important to older relatives. The cousins only care to make an example of the Grandparents.. they don't actually care about the wedding. And I'm sure Grandparents will be at Xmas and Thanksgiving, so why exclude them for one day? This whole episode was biased. It's truly unfortunate, because I'm a very vocal supporter of the lgtbqia+ community. But I would never require anyone to exclude their less educated family. Besides, most families have someone who is ignorant about something. It may not be this, but there's always something. 🤷♀️
^^this is the nuance they totally missed. I love the gang but I have to say this felt a little bit virtue signal-y. Especially when they skated over the cousin, Jane, and her beliefs on immigration. And then describing their own homophobic grandparent that they have not cut out. It’s just a lot of hypocrisy imo.
@@ejcannon5897EXACTLY. Now, I have cut off my own conservative family members, but that was my choice. I also thought OP was TA based on what I have done in my own life. However, listening to Morgan rattle on about how her grandma doesn’t recognize her son’s husband made me want someone to ask Morgan exactly what she has done to support her uncle. She brought this grandma a car, right? The hypocrisy was startling to hear.
I can’t stand body shaming in general but ESPECIALLY not when it’s someone who is pregnant or just had a baby. Are you actually kidding? This person just brought a human life into the world and THAT is what you’re thinking about? BYE! 😭
Yeah, this one was the worst stories of all, imo. I hope she thought through that marriage of theirs, the guy seems to have no empathy at all. That relationship was only good until she gained the plus weight from her pregnancy. Like wtf... I hope she is ok now and gets support. Working and taking care of a baby/little child alone is really hard. :(
RE: the “rotisserie chicken” story. as someone who deals with an ed, i’d toss the whole man. i cant imagine and all i think about is the possible ed spiral this poor woman might go through. i really hope he goes to therapy at the LEAST because literally what the fuck????
I rarely comment on RUclips or social media, but this podcast hit me extremely hard. With that being said, in the last story shared, I'm usually the person that my thinner friends rant to about their sizes being too "big" (when they are x-small, small, or medium) whereas, I am the plus-sized friend. As a person who has struggled with so many insecurities, it sucks listening to my friends complain. Of course, I always told them they were good but in the back of my head I always wondered "What do they see me as?" I loved the way Morgan put it into perspective because I still experience that!!!! There have been times where I was vocal about it and the response I got was somewhat like "You? You're not fat! Look at me, the numbers do not lie." I then would calmly repeat the same response "The numbers do not lie." The numbers = weight on a scale. It stunned my friends and the topic would be changed. These are just some personal experiences I went through. Whoever reads this, I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PARAGRAPH AND YOU ARE HOT SO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Thank you so so much for your comment and sharing your perspective! The way you describe calling it out is something I go through a lot. It takes a toll on your self esteem even if not intended. That journey of self love and body peace can be a challenging one can’t it?! 🙈
I experienced something similar. I was in later high school years and mostly good still with my body image (some developing but not that bad) but talking with friends and it came up to what they considered plus size - double digit pant size. Both of them were pretty small, while I had a few sizes on them so I fit in their definition of plus sized at the time, more so now. I called it out and they said they didn't realize and tried to take it back telling me I didn't look like I weighted that much but it has stuck with me and I still feel the effects of that unintended body image message/attack. My best friend at the time had done the same over the years we were close. Thankfully it didn't affect me as much as the first time but probably didn't help either.
I don’t know about your friends, but with me, I deal with major body issues, many people have told me I am bordering on anorexia, and I always put pressure on myself to have a “flat stomach,” etc. etc. But I never put those views about my own body insecurities on other people, everyone else looks absolutely beautiful/handsome too me, their weight/height/etc. doesn’t matter to me at all. It’s literally just insecurities I place on myself and no one else, I am not very forgiving towards myself at all 😅 Also, YOU ARE HOT TOO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Oh, but the fact that they talk about it in front of you is so inconsiderate, they shouldn’t be doing that. Have you talked about how it makes you feel? They might not realize that they are indirectly hurting you. And if they do realize, you should find better friends because that is toxic.
About the one where he hid his husband, I get it completely. My family isn’t homophobic, but my mother cried when I told her I was a lesbian. They could be accepting for everyone else but you, or they could just have a bad reaction because they future for you in your head can’t be true. I dont think he was the asshole here at all.
I think they got upset about him hiding and being dishonest towards them for 3 whole years, then marry in secret maybe he hurt/ insulted their feelings assuming they would be homofobic. But I get his point of view too, coming out must be very scary.
I agree. I was disappointed by this response. I had a similar experience coming out as trans. Literally my parents respect pronouns for other transpeople and are left wing... but they have been very slow to accept that I am trans. It's been hard. If I had been his family member I would have been surprised and a bit hurt, but not angry. And I would have gone out of my way to make sure they knew I loved and accepted them and their partner. It's not that hard to be empathetic and love your child unconditionally
In regards to the guy who came out to his family and announced his marriage, my takeaway is that the mother was upset he lied about being in a relationship and feels betrayed. My advice is just give it time, talk to your mother when she's cooled down a little bit and just give it time. If she loves you she'll come around.
I really appreciated Morgxn’s words of encouragement for young people struggling with being bi/straight/gay. my heart goes out to people that basically live a lie, because they’re afraid their friends/family/church wouldn’t accept them. everyone has the right to love who they want, and we should celebrate love; no matter who it’s with.
The conversation at the end about practicing gratitude about your appearance hit me HARD. Alejandra talking about how her legs take her on 5 mile runs and that her arms lift and type and provide touched me. I have always had body issues. Ever since I had my son a year ago, I’ve gained weight and gotten a skin condition. I’ve always hated how I looked and the extra skin from pregnancy and weight gain after quitting chest feeding have made it worse. But with hearing her say those things, it made me realize what my body is capable of. My body grew a human and sustained that human for 10 months through human milk. My body helps people every day during their own labor processes and helps them bring their babies into the world. Alejandra, I thank you so much for saying that. ❤️
I sent this to Alejandra and she shed some tears. She really appreciates what you wrote! Thank you so much for writing this and sharing your experience. Being able to create another human is such an insanely magical thing. I’m glad what Ale said helped you realize this and find some peace/sense of accomplishment/gratitude with your beautiful self ❤️
"As long as you're happy, I'm happy." Yeah, I got that from my mom when I was in an LD relationship with my first girlfriend. 2 weeks after our 6 months relationship ended, my mom told me to get over it because it wasn't a real relationship since it was LD & gay. I've never talked about my relationships with girls since and she thinks it was a "phase".
I can definitely relate to some of these stories as a bisexual woman. I know that some of my family would not support my marriage had I decided to marry a woman, so now that I happen to be marrying a man i feel weird about inviting them to the wedding, knowing that if I had happened to fall in love with a woman they would not have wanted to come.
The 1st story really hit me hard. A close family member said a similar thing to me, assuming that me being bisexual would make me cheat on my fiancé. They asked me “why would he be marrying you if you were really bisexual?”, implying that I couldn’t be trusted. Just because I can love both genders does not make me any less capable of being loyal to and choosing 1 person for the rest of my life. Just like straight people, we can be in committed relationships, it is no different.
Another hurtful thing I faced when coming out was people questioning if I was really bisexual because I was in a relationship with a man. Like do they not realize that being bisexual means I also like men!?!? If anyone else has faced similar struggles know that I support you and wish you all the best ❤️ Thanks THT for addressing these topics!!!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I’m sorry you dealt with such dense people and they couldn’t get past their own bigoted, uneducated, stereotypical ways.
Stop stressing about "could have/ might have", what ifs and buts. Try to enjoy your real life versus an imaginary/ hypothetical one and have a great wedding and a wonderful life!!! 😀
i found this podcast and decided to listen to it and it made me think of the other day my dad commented on my body saying i looked anorexic. he literally stopped me and asked "hey you look rly skinny. u aren't anorexic, are u?" and i have actually have been dealing with a binge eating and purging thing due to bad body issues and hearing my dad say that broke my heart and made me so self conscious. i did tell him not to make those comments and he just said "its not my fault u feel like that. i cant control ur feelings im just saying you look anorexic" and still to this day he says it and no matter what i tell him he still does it. listening to this episode made me feel a lot better about myself in a way. so thanks. (English isn't my first language sorry if i made spelling or grammar mistakes)
The girl who told her little cosine was definitely in the right and I’m honestly shocked so many people where not on her side because when i was young for the longest i didn’t know that it was “not normal” to be gay or apart of the lgbtq+ community because my mom talked about it so casually that she didn’t need to explain it to me and everytime she would talk about me being in a relationship she would say boyfriend or girlfriend she was very inclusive as a mother that i would always be so shocked when i met homophobic or racist people because i genuinely and honestly still don’t understand how people can think like that basically what I’m getting at it should be the norm to tell kids about these things
I can say Pride does include all the groups Obidiah mentioned. I am proud ally to the LGBTQIA+ community. My first pride experience was at the 50th anniversary of Stonewall. I will never FORGET seeing so many older ppl/couples celebrating and living their truths. Seeing them and realizing they could not do this when they were younger. It still makes me so emotional to remember that day. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Hard to admit it, but I grew up with a lot of biases being in a rural, sheltered community. Podcasts like this really helped me to see that I didn’t like the way I was thinking and actively work on being an ally and inclusive. Education is really important and changes lives. Good luck out there everybody! 💖
i’m watching this a year later, I just found THT‘s podcast and I love it! I am so impressed with Morgxn! What a beautiful, thoughtful, passionate and fierce but sensitive person.
I love what morgxn said! Queer love is love! This was a very eye opening episode. I realized something I didn’t think was homophobic actually was. I love your podcast!
When you are talking about the girls, one being an extra small and the friends being XXL. I can see both sides. Growing up one of my best friends struggled with anorexia, she would make comments about how big her legs and arms were and how she hated them. I have always struggled with eating and my weight. I have never been and XXL but I have been a large a couple times through out my life. I have also been a small or medium. When my friend would say things about her body I would say "you are so small, this is big" then point at parts on my body I didn't like. I never disliked her or was upset that she was saying these things. I understood that she didn't see her body the way the rest of the world did. I also understand where the girl is coming from when she talks about not seeing her body as small after losing the weight. Sometimes when I look in the mirror I still see myself when I was 30-40lbs heavier, and other times I see myself how I am now. All this body stuff plays with your brain and if you don't change your mindset nothing will change.
I looove what Alejandra said about gratifying yourself, like this (body part) is what does this (function) for me. It hit home, like, it will really help me appreciate my body more, despite any insecurities i have. This is the best episode I've watched/listened to so far.
This really helped me. Both on my sexuality and my body. Lately my body dysmorphia has been really toxic. This has made me realize that I’m beautiful. Thank you.
I immediately looked up and listened to the song. INCREDIBLE! Y'all did such an amazing job. From the lyrics to the vocals ❤❤. Morgan with an "A" I am obsessed with your podcast, I've listened to all of them in about a week. They have made me look at relationships differently in a good way and knowing my worth. I look forward to all your uploads ❤❤❤
I’m not a podcast person because I love to see the faces of the people talking so I love that you put your full lenght videos on here💕 I enjoy this so much! Keep it up💗
That first Reddit post: as a lesbian, absolutely NOT the asshole, if anything those cousins are being unreasonable demanding. Someone ELSE’s wedding is not the place to make a statement like that. Who makes demands about someone else’s guest list?????
That's what I thought too. I'm a gay person myself and I see nothing wrong with what OP decided to do. Its his wedding anyways. Also, the grandparents has archaic mindset, its unlikely they'll change or learn their lesson if OP did restrict them from attending his wedding.
If they wanted to be supportive while still inviting the grandparents, I think they could do something that included the cousins, or was pride supporting. Idk what exactly. Get a special rainbow mini-cake maybe, or have a speach where they talk about their cousins beautiful marriage and hoe they want nothing more than to be like them. Something that sends the message without costing them people that they love.
When this story first posted I got into it with people on Reddit, cause I felt the same as you. Inviting the grandparents to your own wedding is not a betrayal, nor guilt by association. Also, there was additional info that the grandparents had paid the down payment on a house for one of the cousins and their spouse. So their family is fine accepting the grandparents’ money, and the grandparents themselves still show love and support for their grandchild, just not for the marriage since they view it through a traditional/religious lense. Make no mistake, those beliefs are backwards and have no place in our modern world, but this story is not so cut and dry like some make it seem. Signed, your friendly neighborhood bisexual
Im so happy you guys talked abt this. I’m prolly gonna take this comment down soon bc I haven’t told anyone that I’m not straight and I don’t wanna risk ppl seeing it. But I just wanted you guys to know that this is so true, and also in a long time I’ve thought I was bi but ion know what I am so I love your idea of just being, instead of having to come out to ppl
Not me putting on a full beat of makeup trying to hold back tears while listening to this episode 😭 It breaks my heart that there are still people out there that see "different" forms of love as less than. Love is the most important thing in our short lifetimes and to discourage people from loving openly is the most disheartening thing ever. If we all could love openly the world would be a much better place.
I really resonate with the issues bisexual people face. I, myself, am pansexual, and it's so frustrating when other members of the LGBTQ+ community try to invalidate people who're interested in more than one gender. We're not straight if we end up in a heterosexual relationship and we're not gay if we end up in a homosexual relationship. We are the sexuality we identify as.
I’ve been trying to change my language, so like when I’m getting ready especially on bad body days, I’ll ask ‘does this outfit work?’ ‘Does the look suit me?’ Or even ‘any suggestions to add to this?’ Cuz I’m not saying there’s a problem with my body, cuz there isn’t even though it is something I struggle with after gaining 3 stone, just the clothes or fit might work better altered 💛
27:56 The absolute beauty of a person who wrote this comment made me fall in love. That response to the first story was so beautiful and well-articulated that it could only have come from a very wise soul who has unfortunately seen and experienced a lot of hardship for themselves. Brava, kind, anonymous redditor-- brava!
Can confirm, I was fat shame in High school, as a result I've struggled with SO many eating disorders. I hardly ate for near enough a year and ended up under weight. Then was shamed for being too skinny.
I understand about the army guy not being able to seek out therapy for mental health because of the way the army would use/hold that against him, but there are other ways to seek out help through classes, videos made by professionals, things that are tailored to these issues that can help immensely. I love psychology, when dealing with a physically/emotionally abusive person at a time when I couldn't leave the situation learning more about why they were abusive, the signs that led up to the physical abuse and how to navigate dealing with the person/situation helped more than I can say.
Those first two stories hit hard as a bisexual I've had people ask me if I was just trying to cover up for being lesbian because I prefer women just a little more then men
I love the way Morgxn talks, they really say everything I feel should be said and they're very well spoken. It was a very pleasant experience to have them on the podcast
So much of this episode hits home for me. TW body shaming and emotional abuse in my longass story. I was in a relationship with a guy for 7 years (I thought he was "the one," eye roll) and basically for the entire relationship he was slowly chipping away at me. I don't know if he was intentionally trying to be emotionally abusive--I don't think he was smart enough to enact some grand plan to break me down--but the result was that my already-existing body dysmorphia was taken to the extreme. He would come home every day and ask if I had worked out. I don't like to wear makeup, but he constantly wanted me to wear it, telling me "you could look so much hotter." I worked an office job and had to wear business casual clothes, and he would take me to the mall and point at teenager clothes (we were in our late 20s) and tell me I should get clothes like that and that I was trying to look older than I am. He also told me that 125lbs was the ideal weight he thought I should be, which is underweight for my height/body type. Don't even get me started on the sexual issues, and the absolute disaster that was couples therapy (we had a REALLY bad therapist who made it so much worse). It wasn't until I left him that I realized how bad his abuse truly was. That was 4 years ago now, and I STILL deal with the effects. Anyway, idk why I typed this all out, but if anyone reads this, thanks for listening. This episode really got me in my feelings. I'm in therapy and it's one of the biggest things I want to work on, so I am okay, though! If you take nothing else away from this book of a comment, know that if your partner ever starts to talk derogatively about your body, don't walk, RUN! There are so many better people in the world who will appreciate you as you are, and even if you stay single until you die, it's better than being with someone who makes you feel ugly and less-than. Above all, love and cherish yourself.
As the parent of a non-binary, pan, poly young teen, I am so happy to see all the acceptance available to them in this new generation. My kid didn't 'come out' as poly or pan, they just were. They did feel the need to 'come out' as trans and it seemed harder for them to say it than it was for us to accept it. And their friends didn't miss a beat.
The body shaming part really hits for me. I've been made fun of nearly my entire life for being larger than what others deemed acceptable. Cut to me becoming an adult and getting a job at a plus sized clothing store, I lost a fair amount of weight in my early to mid twenties because of a chronic illness and medication but I was still technically plus sized. I then got comments from customers saying skinny people shouldn't be allowed to work at the store because they didn't get what it was like to be bigger (mind you I was in the 180s to low 200s but because of my height, I carry the weight well). I understand for some of the customers they lash out about those things because of how they feel about themselves, but I still wish I could've recounted all of the things that have been said to me in my life about my weight. Unfortunately the store is the kind of store that one complaint on me could've gotten me fired. Since middle school, I have never been smaller than a size twelve. Before the pandemic and another med change, I had consistently weighed between 175lbs and 200lbs at 6' tall. I have for the most part recovered from the trauma of growing up on the heavier side, but it's completely absurd that people feel it's necessary to comment on other people's bodies especially for those of us who can't always control what our bodies do as far as weigh gain or loss goes.
Regarding Story 2, I am 42F with 5 daughters ages 23, 22, 19, 18, and 13. I have ALWAYS been the mother that has told them that they should never be afraid to "come out". They should never feel they have to "come out." It should just be. I don't care who they are with as long as they are completely fulfilled and completely loved and in love. I would be so hurt if one of my kids brought home someone who they lied about was a roommate for years and suddenly they were married. I absolutely love your show. It is one of my favorites. I wait for Thursdays. I've watched all of them. I've been watching your dad's show now, and it would be a dream to be on there with you guys.
When they were all talking about the guy who got secretly married to his husband, and they said that they didn't _need_ to come out to not be in the closet, my first thought was about how I "came out" as lesbian. I was brushing my hair and my family had been silent for around 10 mins, this was when I was 13, and my mum just walked in, said "You know you're gay, right?" And I said "yeah", her only reaction was "Okay I'm glad that you know so you don't need to tell us" then went back to whatever she was doing. I didn't come out, but i never attempted to hide it. Actually i don't think anyone ever assumed i was straight to begin with-
Loved this episode. I have struggled so much with body image, but throughout my journey to self love and the single life (so as to not seek male validation) I'm discovering new things about myself and try to focus on specific goals (fitness related, like getting strong arms and carry my on weight-oh, what a dream-) and i always try to remember that, no matter what, my relationship to myself comes first, 'cause I'll be my longtime companion. And also, life's too short to not enjoy yourself, in anyway you can, so as long as your happy and healthy, nothing else will really matter. Be that bitch, cause haters and trolls will always exist.
it’s interesting to me tbh how families can differ on what they do consider unacceptable. my family is NOT accepting... but they were fine with it when I was out as bisexual, the minute i realized i was actually a lesbian they were NOT OK with it. Hell the word is literally banned from being uttered in my house. It’s interesting to hear people with the opposite experience.
My youngest daughter outed my older daughter. However, it was at the request of my oldest. She was scared to tell me because she thought I wouldn’t accept her. It broke my heart that she would feel that way. I hugged her and told her I’ll always accepted her and love her for who she is. She cried in my arms for about an hour. I’m not religious but my husband’s family is. She is scared to let anyone else know besides our immediate family. I know they will make inappropriate comments or making jokes about. I’ve had explained to my daughter she doesn’t have to tell anyone she doesn’t want to and I will always be by her side fighting for her and will easy drop those who don’t accept her for who she is. I’m hoping it has eased her mind but it still hurts knowing she is in pain and just wants to be accepted.
I know this episode was a bit ago but on the topic of never having to come out, my mum has always said I don't want to know, just bring home whoever you're with and I love that
As a pansexual woman it’s honestly the most irritating thing getting those comments like “oh but your dating a guy” or “you don’t look gay” and the bs about bi an pan people being cheaters has always drove me mad I’ve been cheated on by men women some in between and I have never cheated
Coming from someone who’s apart of the community, I don’t think making other people’s wedding guest list about myself is appropriate. Like it’s just not the crucial. It sounds like it’s their religious belief that marriage is between a woman and a man, so who cares? We can mutually disagree without dragging other people into it. It’s problematic to expect others to be social justice warriors for their own wedding.
I know this was posted a while ago, but I just wanted to say it is so amazing hearing them talk about all of this. Definitely helps me with my own identity and how I deal with it as a bisexual who doesn't tell everyone. I honestly don't care if people know, I even have a tattoo that the watercolor in it is the bi flag, but I don't tell people just to tell them and this made me feel validated for that I don't just tell everyone. Especially as I have some very close family friends who are older (60+) and Baptist Christian, and they are very open about the LGBTQ+ community but I just don't want to tell everyone in our friends/family as I don't know everyone (mostly their daughter in-law as one time her son asked me to put highlighter on him when I was doing his sisters makeup, so I just dabbed his nose with my highlighter brush and she freaked out about how boys can't wear makeup and it was wrong, in front of my brothers friend who had been asking me to teach him some makeup tips) will be as accepting. Also, their comment on strokes are so true. My grandpa had a stroke before I was born and was completely paralyzed on the right side, so I feel like they broached it in a respectful way. Especially talking about how to woman is lucky to be up and walking, as my grandpa never did again. I feel like they definitely brought some great light to that.
Little brother (16) senior in high school broke up with his long term gf a couple months ago then recently told us all he was dating his friend Greg, i was ECSTATIC bc me and my other brother are bisexual as well. I wanted to talk to him about safe sex and relationship habits but didn’t want to get weird or stress him out after just coming out to us. Im going to get him these books im so glad I saw this ❤️
Great podcast episode!! I always listen while I’m doing chores or cleaning/cooking and it makes daily mundane life so much more enjoyable so thank you guys!! Loved the issues you touched on
honestly i can’t blame the guy who hid his relationship for three years. my grandma isn’t necessarily homophobic but for the past FOUR fucking years she has said she won’t believe it until i am in a committed marriage for a few years. every day i wish i never told them and i just kept my life away from them.
May I join the Pisces chain, I'm the third. 🙋♀️ First story: it was my mum for me too. I came out as bisexual to my mum and she didn't believe me. Straight up just said 'no'. Luckily I have a very supportive dad who grew up tough but open community, and just wants his kids to be safe, healthy and happy. I also came out to my grandparents (dads side) when i was 19 and they were also super supportive. Didn't make a big deal, just accepted me and moved on kinda how you should. And my mum was left in an awkward position. 😊
As a Christian girl myself, im so fucking done with the toxic view my "community". Shunning people and hating on them in the name of "love". For people that claim to love like Jesus, not loving everyone, and being picky with who you accept is the opposite of Jesus and his message.
Adding on to the story at the 1h mark (where an aunt told her 7 year old nephew that her “roomate” was actually her wife): When I(F) was a kid (around 5-6 years old), my best friend in the whole world was my cousin(F). We would constantly make eachother laugh & be inseparable. One summer day, when my mom was driving us to the beach, she overheard one of us tell the other “I love you so much that I want to marry you when we’re grown up!”, to which the other replied “but we’re both girls, we can’t marry eachother” in a dissapointed tone. My mom took it upon herself to intervene & say something like “well actually, there are ladies who marry ladies and misters who marry misters! It’s less common than ladies who marry misters, but it still happens!”. Apparently we both got so excited that our ‘dream of marrying eachother’ could happen, we hugged eachother with huge smiles for the rest of the drive. Once at the beach, we got busy doing other kid stuff and our ‘wedding’ was out of mind. If you don’t make a big deal out of it, kids will move on from the subject pretty quickly; they’re little sponges and spend their entire upbringings learning about new concepts. Homosexuality isn’t groundbreaking or a “bad subject” if you don’t make it to be. Also, my mom was nervous about telling my aunt about her telling us gay marriages were a thing (since it wasn’t her kid and she didn’t mean to intrude, but she recognized the learning opportunity and took it anyways). My aunt wasn’t mad about it. I don’t think we brought up the subject again; for us, it was just another mundane grown up thing we had learned about. My cousin & I are still close but aren’t married now that we’re grown ups, for multiple reasons, one being that we’re related (my mom didn’t feel the need to spill the beans on why incest is bad that day, and I don’t blame her) and aren’t/have never been romantically involved. I’m pansexual and she is straight, not that it has anything to do with little kids professing their love to one another. From my perspective, this was such a nonchalant conversation that I don’t even remember it. It definitely didn’t scar my childhood, and didn’t change any type of dynamic I’ve had with other people, or with my cousin. I’m happy about how my mom handled it. I also recognize that I’m privileged to have had this type of supportive parent, and that this conversation could easily have gone differently in another family.
Thank you for bringing up the discrimination and criticism that bisexual people receive from the LGBTQ+ community and straight people. Biphobia comes in many forms unfortunately. I’m a bi woman who has experienced the fetishization of bisexuality by straight people and couples. I just want to be who I am and love who I love. 🌈
I think alot of heterosexual conformist like diet acceptance also I think that Morgan and alejandera are both kind of "standard sizes* and this is what also helps form their point of views however I genuinely think that they are so accepting,loving and caring about others and aren't judgemental just watching them on youtube
I feel like Morgan couldn’t really talk when it came down to the family isn’t homophobic so they had no reason to not come out, the process of coming out is the most scary sad and terrifying thing you can do, it doesn’t even matter if the person most likely will accept you. It’s all the thoughts and doubts that they don’t. Imagining over and over again the family you love may not love you back can be crippling and the worst thing.
in regards to the first story, i feel like that's such a common experience for bi people (i'm also a bi person) and its really difficult because you're "too gay" for straight people" and "not gay enough" for LGBT+ people. it's very frustrating
When people ask how I define myself and sexuality I always say queer. I’m fine with whatever, I don’t have or want a label. I’m happy with being me and I don’t know what future me wants or will find out.
As a fat person whose normal-sized best friend is frequently upset about their weight, yes it absolutely stabs me in the heart and make me wonder what they must think about me. I never say anything though, because they are allowed to feel how they do about themself and make changes if they want. Feelings are always valid. I do wish they wouldn't complain about their weight to me, though.
It's ok. I'm sure your friend isn't trying to make you feel this way. For me some times I jave thoughts about me being fat because I'm average weight but at the same time when I see my mom and my Auntie who are overweight all I can think is how beautiful they are. So I think your friend is truly not trying to make you feel bad.
@@hayamirin6795 I know they're just offhand comments about themself, as everyone makes. They've made other fatphobic observations in the past though, and that has me concerned a bit.
i was actually confused at why they were assholes on the first reddit story while u guys read it but then when u started discussing it and listening to the top comment, i completely understand why inviting the grandparents would be homophobic. thank goodness i was able to understand it and see it through the perspective of a lgbtq+ person thanks to that comment
My sister is my best friend. We're one year apart and shared the same room for the entirety of our childhood. Two years ago, were now full grown adults and she mustered up the courage to finally come out as bi. She was nervous AF! I was the first person she decided to tell and when she told me I was like ok cool. She was like "Wait why are you so cool about this? I was terrified." I gave her a blank stare and was like "Girl I'm your best friend. I already knew! Proud of you for telling me though." And she was elated then we changed the subject and started talking about normal random things. A week later she calls me and starts ranting about how she told the whole fam and every single one of us had a similar reaction. She was flabbergasted that she'd spent so long hiding it from everyone. I was like " Biatch you got pics of josh Hutcherson and Zendaya hanging all over your room with hearts drawn around them. What were you hiding?!! Plus, we were never a very closed minded family. At the end of the day you're still you, that's all that matters and I love you." She was relieved and I can honestly say, I am very happy she's no longer in the closet and that the whole fam was on board I can only imagine how hard it is to fear rejection from those you love the most.
I personally hate labels. I'd prefer to just be. If i did label myself I'd be bisexual, poly, and possibly asexual towards my relationships with women. I'm happily married to a man and we have 5 kids, but this doesn't make me any less of who i am. My husband has always known who i am, and if i wanted to date a woman i can at any time. That does not mean that we have 3 somes. My relationships with both would be separate. Love is valid! People should be allowed to just be.... be who you are, no matter who or what that is. ❤
As a full figured woman… i think the story about the girl who’s fiancé fat shames people and her is super common. Men lowkey love the thickness but publicly they will do anything to maintain a reputation, esp for their boys… 🙄
Time stamps
Segment featuring Morgan, Justin, and Morgxn: 2:45
Listener Write-ins
Story 1: 5:40
Story 2: 15:08
Reddit Stories
Story 1: 21:02
Story 2: 34:58
Story 3: 45:04
Story 4: 53:52
Segment featuring Morgan, Alejandra, and Obediah: 1:08:20
Story 1: 1:09:27
Story 2: 1:15:55
Story 3: 1:25:38
Story 4: 1:39:08
Story 5: 1:49:13
Story 6: 2:07:41
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‘You can be really into sex but also really monogamous’ thank you I wish more people could wrap their heads around that. I’ve been called so many things bc of partners refusal to accept this
As a bigger girl, I have smaller friends who have complained about their bodies, being fat, flabby etc. I haven't always been happy in my body (positive affirmations do help,!) But when I hear my smaller friends complain it actually makes me feel like wow, we all hate our bodies. I find it relatable. When I was more uncomfortable in my body, I used to think wow what do they think of me?!? If they are fat I'm the fattest fat fat ever. But that came from a place of insecurity and self centered thinking. They aren't thinking about my body! They are insecure - HUMAN- just like me. We all have something to hate, I feel normal!!! Not insulted. Xo hope this take helps anyone.
OMG!! You literally almost made me cry 😭 I needed to hear this❤️ Thank you!!!
Wow that’s a great way to think, thank you so much for sharing❤
To a certain extent I completely agree with you and as someone who used to be extremely thin (like size 0-2) and was at my largest at a size 28, and now float somewhere between size 16-22, this take isn’t ALL right. When objectively thin women fat shame themselves, they are to a certain extent thinking to themselves the worst thing in the world to them would be to look like me as an actually fat person.
I wanna hug you after reading this. :c I used to be pretty overweight (over 200 lbs at 5’3). For my body, it was unhealthy. Now I’m teetering on being underweight thanks to an autoimmune disease and I’m what’s considered “skinny fat.” I’ve lost a lot of strength and balance, but with meds it’s a bit better. Now that I’ve seen both sides of the weight spectrum, it’s opened my mind a lot on how society makes us hate our bodies regardless of what they look like. It’s important to remember that this impacts all of us and it doesn’t revolve around us as one person, but as a collective.
I remember telling my mom as she was folding laundry one day, “I think I like boys and girls,” and she said “me too”. That was that 😂
Me as a mother. 🤭🤣 love that for you!
In my childhood, when talking about the future, my mom always said: 'You and your future husband..or wife.'
Made coming out as bisexual really really easy
Your mum is a sweetheart
Clearly coming out wasn’t actually necessary 😂 Pretty sure your mom already knew.
Your mom is awesome!
Little me would correct my mom with the 'OR WIFE' to be more PC, but little did I know... 😏🌈
must be nice
As a member of the lgbtq+ community, I’m really glad that you included morgxn’s point of view for this episode. I think they offer a unique perspective on this topic, and I’m glad you gave them the space to share their experience that so many of us can relate to too.
"Good people" are not homophobic
Good people do not SHUT OUT their grandkids weddings just cause it’s two of the same gender
Good people SUPPORT OTHERS. Good people do not say their grandkids marriage is FAKE.
I loved Morgxn saying they can’t put aside the homophobia the way heterosexual people can. I’ve never thought about it like that, and I don’t think I’ll ever see it the same way again
@@NameName-yj7lp why are you using same-sex as the basis of your argument. If the whole LGBTQIAPD movement was just GLGLGLGL there would be order. The existence of more fluid and changing sexualities destroys the respectability of same-sex sexualities relationships. The LGBTQIADP movement is eating itself.
@@binghamguevara6814 wtf is you on about I said same sex wedding because their wedding was same sex???
So, if a guy makes very little but always gives to help people in need regardless of their lifestyle, spends his time taking care of his elderly relatives, counsels any of his friends who call him needing a shoulder, even the lgbt ones, doesn't lie, cheat, steal, or purposely hurt anyone, but he disagrees with a couple of points propagated by the lgbt community, such as being gay being a choice or it being okay to not provide services for a gay wedding, he's a homofobe and thus a bad person? Okay, cool. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. You aren't changing anybody with that belief. Disagreeing with something is not murder, so the example used by Morgan and Morgxn doesn't make sense even though they really think it's a real gotcha move.What if a guy does all of the things listed above, helping others, caring for his elderly family, being a friend, etc, but he's gay, and one person doesn't want to accept him? I know how you'd feel about that, but what would you say? I think I know. Wouldn't you say, "That isn't fair. You can't reject a person based on just that one thing. He isn't hurting anyone, he just doesn't think the same way you do." I would actually agree with you in that instance, but you only seem to believe that a little bad outways a lot of good when someone disagrees with part of your narrative. The exact opposite is true when the one bit of bad is something you don't even think of as bad. Suddenly, we should look at the whole person. Funny how that works.
Reddit story 4 is so heartbreaking 😢 Telling a child that you are gay is not indoctrinating them, it is telling them your truth and teaching them about inclusiveness & unconditional love and bringing our world one step closer to being more accepting. She wasn’t pushing the child to be gay, she was simply telling him a fact.
I hope that in the future schools will have picture books for students featuring LGBTQ characters, and platforms like Disney will have more LGBTQ characters, as well. Small things like that could make a world of difference in terms of acceptance
Exactly that was just her being like “ I’m a lesbian, this is what lesbian is” and it’s normal. Simple if you wanna Yknow not make your child closed minded you have to let them meet other new people who are diffrent
If numbers of LGBTQ+ identifying people go up it’s because they finally feel safe and not that it is “contagious” or something. Who would even know to come out if it isn’t an option?
My mum was brushing my hair one day and asked me "are you gay?" I said no. She said "okay.... Are you bi?" I said yeah. It has never been mentioned again and my bisexuality is normal
That’s such a cute visual as well lol
lucky asf
I wish my mom was like that, instead she just said I was confused and would grow out of it 😕
I love love when Morgxn was saying what if we don't have to come out? That's how I'm trying to be with my kids. They just are, they can just be. Their sexuality isn't the end all be all. They are who they are, they're beautiful and valid. I'm so glad more people are raising children this way I know I'm not the only one.
My sister outed me (on purpose) about a week ago and yesterday my step mother literally tried to tell me I don’t like women just because I find a woman attractive 💀
Gurl I- no words😭‼️
First of all I love your pfp second of all your step mom is ignorant for thinking that way I’m so sorry your sister did that no one should be outed before they’re ready I hope all goes well with you 💛
@@alizemontoya9277 thank you so much ❤️✨
1. Sister is awful I've had it happen twice 2. Step mom is also awful and hopefully she will get better but of she doesn't I'm sorry and 3. I'm sorry this has happened to you it's not fun to be outed I really hope you're okay :)
@@nataliecarden6346 thank you I’m hope ur ok too :)
That’s horrible no one should do that. The Sister and step mom are shitty but hopefully they learn/get more educated.
Fat shaming and skinny shaming are both bad but I think the belief that fat shaming is worse comes from the fact that most skinny shaming happens on a person to person basis whereas fat shaming happens on a larger scale. The media shamed fat people. When overweight people go to the doctors for something unrelated to weight, they’re stigmatized and often not diagnosed correctly. The fashion industry is built for skinny people for the most part. So fat shaming feels more universal vs a person to person issue. Both are awful though
fat shaming is to such a larger scale which is why it sucks to hear that skinny shaming is just as bad
@@whoevencares6106 yep
As someone with the vast majority of the family belonging in the medical industry-- there is no "fat stigma" more often than not almost every single disease that an overweight person comes to a doctor with is more so weight related than any other statistical measure. A doctor telling you to lose weight to treat your hormonal imbalances is not a "misdiagnosis" or "a health concern completely unrelated to weight". Just as someone who is underweight presenting with insomnia caused by vitamin deficiencies will be told to gain some weight and eat a balanced diet for example. People think that a diagnosis is a one to one correlation, but fail to understand that the reason why doctors spend an additional 8-12 years in med school is to understand the vast schema of interconnected causes of diseases-- many of which are exacerbated and concealed by weight problems.
Fat shaming is worse because skinny is the beauty standard so you cant shame it or be upset by it
Fatshaming is worse than “skinny shaming” because fatphobia affects fat AND thin people. No matter how thin someone is they DO NOT want to be FAT. They want to “put on weight” “wish they weren’t so thin” but they do not want to be FAT.
Thats why fatphobia is such a huge issue, it affects everyone because fat across all bodies is rejected and stigmatized.
As a female Christian whenever the time comes for me to have kids I plan on teaching about all types of relationships so they can learn who they are. I love this episode 😌
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My mother used to tell me when I was a teen that I was allowed to bring home whoever or “whatever” I wanted. They could be any ethnicity as long as they weren’t a girl. Her biggest fear when I was going into college was that my roommate would be bisexual or pansexual (she heard a “horror” story from her bestie who’s daughter had a pansexual roommate with many sex partners). I’ve known that I am pansexual since I was about 16yrs and I’ll never tell my mom just because of these two instances. I’ll never feel comfortable enough to be honest with her about it.
i’m so sorry. i get it and it’s such a disheartening feeling. i hope you can find/have found your support group where you can be yourself unapologetically ❤
I really feel for the guy that has the homophobic grandparents. My entire family is Republican, so any time we talk about politics, it ends with me either crying in frustration or having a panic attack. Those talks have been banned recently, for obvious reasons. I have said my opinions, they have said theirs, and nothing would change that.
If I cut off my family, I would be cutting out my biggest supporters and my best friends(siblings.) It sucks knowing that your family doesn’t hold your same values, especially when they treat you really well aside from that. It’s easy to say you would cut them out when they are just your grandparents, but cutting out people that help and love you through every day issues makes things a lot harder than you’d think.
Also, I am a bisexual woman, if that puts anything in perspective.
i feel the exact same way
Exactly. It’s hypocritical asf to cut people out of your life for not agreeing with your beliefs/views, but then to think they’re sooo wrong for doing the same exact thing only with THEIR beliefs. I can’t stand the double standards.
Yeah. He was definitely NOT the asshole. Grandparents are usually very important in close families. In some cultures, elders are the most important family. This expectation of excluding them is both unrealistic and ignorant. It is one day, and weddings are more important to older relatives. The cousins only care to make an example of the Grandparents.. they don't actually care about the wedding. And I'm sure Grandparents will be at Xmas and Thanksgiving, so why exclude them for one day? This whole episode was biased. It's truly unfortunate, because I'm a very vocal supporter of the lgtbqia+ community. But I would never require anyone to exclude their less educated family. Besides, most families have someone who is ignorant about something. It may not be this, but there's always something. 🤷♀️
^^this is the nuance they totally missed. I love the gang but I have to say this felt a little bit virtue signal-y. Especially when they skated over the cousin, Jane, and her beliefs on immigration. And then describing their own homophobic grandparent that they have not cut out. It’s just a lot of hypocrisy imo.
@@ejcannon5897EXACTLY. Now, I have cut off my own conservative family members, but that was my choice. I also thought OP was TA based on what I have done in my own life. However, listening to Morgan rattle on about how her grandma doesn’t recognize her son’s husband made me want someone to ask Morgan exactly what she has done to support her uncle. She brought this grandma a car, right? The hypocrisy was startling to hear.
As a woman with Ed Alejandra speech around the 2hour mark bout how hard we are on our bodies had me balling. Need more body talk like this!!!
I can’t stand body shaming in general but ESPECIALLY not when it’s someone who is pregnant or just had a baby. Are you actually kidding? This person just brought a human life into the world and THAT is what you’re thinking about? BYE! 😭
Yeah, this one was the worst stories of all, imo. I hope she thought through that marriage of theirs, the guy seems to have no empathy at all. That relationship was only good until she gained the plus weight from her pregnancy. Like wtf...
I hope she is ok now and gets support. Working and taking care of a baby/little child alone is really hard. :(
RE: the “rotisserie chicken” story.
as someone who deals with an ed, i’d toss the whole man. i cant imagine and all i think about is the possible ed spiral this poor woman might go through. i really hope he goes to therapy at the LEAST because literally what the fuck????
I rarely comment on RUclips or social media, but this podcast hit me extremely hard. With that being said, in the last story shared, I'm usually the person that my thinner friends rant to about their sizes being too "big" (when they are x-small, small, or medium) whereas, I am the plus-sized friend. As a person who has struggled with so many insecurities, it sucks listening to my friends complain. Of course, I always told them they were good but in the back of my head I always wondered "What do they see me as?" I loved the way Morgan put it into perspective because I still experience that!!!! There have been times where I was vocal about it and the response I got was somewhat like "You? You're not fat! Look at me, the numbers do not lie." I then would calmly repeat the same response "The numbers do not lie." The numbers = weight on a scale. It stunned my friends and the topic would be changed. These are just some personal experiences I went through. Whoever reads this, I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PARAGRAPH AND YOU ARE HOT SO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Thank you so so much for your comment and sharing your perspective! The way you describe calling it out is something I go through a lot. It takes a toll on your self esteem even if not intended. That journey of self love and body peace can be a challenging one can’t it?! 🙈
I experienced something similar. I was in later high school years and mostly good still with my body image (some developing but not that bad) but talking with friends and it came up to what they considered plus size - double digit pant size. Both of them were pretty small, while I had a few sizes on them so I fit in their definition of plus sized at the time, more so now. I called it out and they said they didn't realize and tried to take it back telling me I didn't look like I weighted that much but it has stuck with me and I still feel the effects of that unintended body image message/attack.
My best friend at the time had done the same over the years we were close. Thankfully it didn't affect me as much as the first time but probably didn't help either.
Dont be sorry for being relatable
I don’t know about your friends, but with me, I deal with major body issues, many people have told me I am bordering on anorexia, and I always put pressure on myself to have a “flat stomach,” etc. etc. But I never put those views about my own body insecurities on other people, everyone else looks absolutely beautiful/handsome too me, their weight/height/etc. doesn’t matter to me at all. It’s literally just insecurities I place on myself and no one else, I am not very forgiving towards myself at all 😅 Also, YOU ARE HOT TOO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Oh, but the fact that they talk about it in front of you is so inconsiderate, they shouldn’t be doing that. Have you talked about how it makes you feel? They might not realize that they are indirectly hurting you. And if they do realize, you should find better friends because that is toxic.
Morgxn talking about the hope people dont have to come out, I agree 100000%
About the one where he hid his husband, I get it completely. My family isn’t homophobic, but my mother cried when I told her I was a lesbian. They could be accepting for everyone else but you, or they could just have a bad reaction because they future for you in your head can’t be true. I dont think he was the asshole here at all.
Thank you! That's what I was thinking
I think they got upset about him hiding and being dishonest towards them for 3 whole years, then marry in secret maybe he hurt/ insulted their feelings assuming they would be homofobic. But I get his point of view too, coming out must be very scary.
I agree. I was disappointed by this response. I had a similar experience coming out as trans. Literally my parents respect pronouns for other transpeople and are left wing... but they have been very slow to accept that I am trans. It's been hard.
If I had been his family member I would have been surprised and a bit hurt, but not angry. And I would have gone out of my way to make sure they knew I loved and accepted them and their partner. It's not that hard to be empathetic and love your child unconditionally
In regards to the guy who came out to his family and announced his marriage, my takeaway is that the mother was upset he lied about being in a relationship and feels betrayed. My advice is just give it time, talk to your mother when she's cooled down a little bit and just give it time. If she loves you she'll come around.
I really appreciated Morgxn’s words of encouragement for young people struggling with being bi/straight/gay. my heart goes out to people that basically live a lie, because they’re afraid their friends/family/church wouldn’t accept them. everyone has the right to love who they want, and we should celebrate love; no matter who it’s with.
The conversation at the end about practicing gratitude about your appearance hit me HARD. Alejandra talking about how her legs take her on 5 mile runs and that her arms lift and type and provide touched me. I have always had body issues. Ever since I had my son a year ago, I’ve gained weight and gotten a skin condition. I’ve always hated how I looked and the extra skin from pregnancy and weight gain after quitting chest feeding have made it worse. But with hearing her say those things, it made me realize what my body is capable of. My body grew a human and sustained that human for 10 months through human milk. My body helps people every day during their own labor processes and helps them bring their babies into the world. Alejandra, I thank you so much for saying that. ❤️
I sent this to Alejandra and she shed some tears. She really appreciates what you wrote! Thank you so much for writing this and sharing your experience. Being able to create another human is such an insanely magical thing. I’m glad what Ale said helped you realize this and find some peace/sense of accomplishment/gratitude with your beautiful self ❤️
@@TwoHotTakes Thank you for sending it to her! I love this podcast and want you all to know that you’re touching lives ❤️
"As long as you're happy, I'm happy."
Yeah, I got that from my mom when I was in an LD relationship with my first girlfriend. 2 weeks after our 6 months relationship ended, my mom told me to get over it because it wasn't a real relationship since it was LD & gay.
I've never talked about my relationships with girls since and she thinks it was a "phase".
AND LIZZO PLAYS THE FLUTE…My lungs could never😩
I can definitely relate to some of these stories as a bisexual woman. I know that some of my family would not support my marriage had I decided to marry a woman, so now that I happen to be marrying a man i feel weird about inviting them to the wedding, knowing that if I had happened to fall in love with a woman they would not have wanted to come.
The 1st story really hit me hard. A close family member said a similar thing to me, assuming that me being bisexual would make me cheat on my fiancé. They asked me “why would he be marrying you if you were really bisexual?”, implying that I couldn’t be trusted. Just because I can love both genders does not make me any less capable of being loyal to and choosing 1 person for the rest of my life. Just like straight people, we can be in committed relationships, it is no different.
Another hurtful thing I faced when coming out was people questioning if I was really bisexual because I was in a relationship with a man. Like do they not realize that being bisexual means I also like men!?!? If anyone else has faced similar struggles know that I support you and wish you all the best ❤️ Thanks THT for addressing these topics!!!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I’m sorry you dealt with such dense people and they couldn’t get past their own bigoted, uneducated, stereotypical ways.
Stop stressing about "could have/ might have", what ifs and buts. Try to enjoy your real life versus an imaginary/ hypothetical one and have a great wedding and a wonderful life!!! 😀
i found this podcast and decided to listen to it and it made me think of the other day my dad commented on my body saying i looked anorexic. he literally stopped me and asked "hey you look rly skinny. u aren't anorexic, are u?" and i have actually have been dealing with a binge eating and purging thing due to bad body issues and hearing my dad say that broke my heart and made me so self conscious. i did tell him not to make those comments and he just said "its not my fault u feel like that. i cant control ur feelings im just saying you look anorexic" and still to this day he says it and no matter what i tell him he still does it.
listening to this episode made me feel a lot better about myself in a way. so thanks.
(English isn't my first language sorry if i made spelling or grammar mistakes)
As a non straight chubby gender less person this podcast episode hit home
The girl who told her little cosine was definitely in the right and I’m honestly shocked so many people where not on her side because when i was young for the longest i didn’t know that it was “not normal” to be gay or apart of the lgbtq+ community because my mom talked about it so casually that she didn’t need to explain it to me and everytime she would talk about me being in a relationship she would say boyfriend or girlfriend she was very inclusive as a mother that i would always be so shocked when i met homophobic or racist people because i genuinely and honestly still don’t understand how people can think like that basically what I’m getting at it should be the norm to tell kids about these things
I love this! ❤️ Homophobia and racism, or any other form of bigotry for that matter, is what should be regarded as abnormal.
I can say Pride does include all the groups Obidiah mentioned. I am proud ally to the LGBTQIA+ community. My first pride experience was at the 50th anniversary of Stonewall. I will never FORGET seeing so many older ppl/couples celebrating and living their truths. Seeing them and realizing they could not do this when they were younger. It still makes me so emotional to remember that day. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Hard to admit it, but I grew up with a lot of biases being in a rural, sheltered community. Podcasts like this really helped me to see that I didn’t like the way I was thinking and actively work on being an ally and inclusive. Education is really important and changes lives. Good luck out there everybody! 💖
that's very cool, honestly! It is so damn hard to reverse the stuff we were taught so I'm glad you're putting that effort in!
i’m watching this a year later, I just found THT‘s podcast and I love it! I am so impressed with Morgxn! What a beautiful, thoughtful, passionate and fierce but sensitive person.
I love what morgxn said! Queer love is love! This was a very eye opening episode. I realized something I didn’t think was homophobic actually was.
I love your podcast!
When you are talking about the girls, one being an extra small and the friends being XXL. I can see both sides. Growing up one of my best friends struggled with anorexia, she would make comments about how big her legs and arms were and how she hated them. I have always struggled with eating and my weight. I have never been and XXL but I have been a large a couple times through out my life. I have also been a small or medium. When my friend would say things about her body I would say "you are so small, this is big" then point at parts on my body I didn't like. I never disliked her or was upset that she was saying these things. I understood that she didn't see her body the way the rest of the world did. I also understand where the girl is coming from when she talks about not seeing her body as small after losing the weight. Sometimes when I look in the mirror I still see myself when I was 30-40lbs heavier, and other times I see myself how I am now. All this body stuff plays with your brain and if you don't change your mindset nothing will change.
Why would you leave your child with someone if you don't accept their lifestyle? How is that the gay person's problem?
I looove what Alejandra said about gratifying yourself, like this (body part) is what does this (function) for me. It hit home, like, it will really help me appreciate my body more, despite any insecurities i have. This is the best episode I've watched/listened to so far.
This really helped me. Both on my sexuality and my body. Lately my body dysmorphia has been really toxic. This has made me realize that I’m beautiful. Thank you.
I immediately looked up and listened to the song. INCREDIBLE! Y'all did such an amazing job. From the lyrics to the vocals ❤❤. Morgan with an "A" I am obsessed with your podcast, I've listened to all of them in about a week. They have made me look at relationships differently in a good way and knowing my worth. I look forward to all your uploads ❤❤❤
I’m not a podcast person because I love to see the faces of the people talking so I love that you put your full lenght videos on here💕 I enjoy this so much! Keep it up💗
Yep Samee
yes!!! i’m so glad a lot of podcasts have become both audio and visual in recent years
That first Reddit post: as a lesbian, absolutely NOT the asshole, if anything those cousins are being unreasonable demanding. Someone ELSE’s wedding is not the place to make a statement like that. Who makes demands about someone else’s guest list?????
That's what I thought too. I'm a gay person myself and I see nothing wrong with what OP decided to do. Its his wedding anyways. Also, the grandparents has archaic mindset, its unlikely they'll change or learn their lesson if OP did restrict them from attending his wedding.
I’m so glad that someone else felt the same way about the first post. I feel as if the cousins are taken away from someone’s big day!
If they wanted to be supportive while still inviting the grandparents, I think they could do something that included the cousins, or was pride supporting. Idk what exactly. Get a special rainbow mini-cake maybe, or have a speach where they talk about their cousins beautiful marriage and hoe they want nothing more than to be like them. Something that sends the message without costing them people that they love.
When this story first posted I got into it with people on Reddit, cause I felt the same as you. Inviting the grandparents to your own wedding is not a betrayal, nor guilt by association. Also, there was additional info that the grandparents had paid the down payment on a house for one of the cousins and their spouse. So their family is fine accepting the grandparents’ money, and the grandparents themselves still show love and support for their grandchild, just not for the marriage since they view it through a traditional/religious lense. Make no mistake, those beliefs are backwards and have no place in our modern world, but this story is not so cut and dry like some make it seem.
Signed, your friendly neighborhood bisexual
Im so happy you guys talked abt this. I’m prolly gonna take this comment down soon bc I haven’t told anyone that I’m not straight and I don’t wanna risk ppl seeing it. But I just wanted you guys to know that this is so true, and also in a long time I’ve thought I was bi but ion know what I am so I love your idea of just being, instead of having to come out to ppl
Not me putting on a full beat of makeup trying to hold back tears while listening to this episode 😭 It breaks my heart that there are still people out there that see "different" forms of love as less than. Love is the most important thing in our short lifetimes and to discourage people from loving openly is the most disheartening thing ever. If we all could love openly the world would be a much better place.
I really resonate with the issues bisexual people face. I, myself, am pansexual, and it's so frustrating when other members of the LGBTQ+ community try to invalidate people who're interested in more than one gender. We're not straight if we end up in a heterosexual relationship and we're not gay if we end up in a homosexual relationship. We are the sexuality we identify as.
Thanks to Morgan for not adding ads perfect video to fall asleep too
when are we dropping some “at the end of the day ✨” merch? would actually love some 🤣
It’s on our to do list
I’ve been trying to change my language, so like when I’m getting ready especially on bad body days, I’ll ask ‘does this outfit work?’ ‘Does the look suit me?’ Or even ‘any suggestions to add to this?’ Cuz I’m not saying there’s a problem with my body, cuz there isn’t even though it is something I struggle with after gaining 3 stone, just the clothes or fit might work better altered 💛
It’s funny that Morgan mentioned Schitts creek because I was thinking the whole time that Morgxn looks like Dan levy!
love morgan, alejandra, and obediah's vibe together ❤️❤️❤️ more this three hot takes trio !!
27:56 The absolute beauty of a person who wrote this comment made me fall in love. That response to the first story was so beautiful and well-articulated that it could only have come from a very wise soul who has unfortunately seen and experienced a lot of hardship for themselves. Brava, kind, anonymous redditor-- brava!
Can confirm, I was fat shame in High school, as a result I've struggled with SO many eating disorders. I hardly ate for near enough a year and ended up under weight. Then was shamed for being too skinny.
I understand about the army guy not being able to seek out therapy for mental health because of the way the army would use/hold that against him, but there are other ways to seek out help through classes, videos made by professionals, things that are tailored to these issues that can help immensely. I love psychology, when dealing with a physically/emotionally abusive person at a time when I couldn't leave the situation learning more about why they were abusive, the signs that led up to the physical abuse and how to navigate dealing with the person/situation helped more than I can say.
Those first two stories hit hard as a bisexual I've had people ask me if I was just trying to cover up for being lesbian because I prefer women just a little more then men
I love the way Morgxn talks, they really say everything I feel should be said and they're very well spoken. It was a very pleasant experience to have them on the podcast
So much of this episode hits home for me. TW body shaming and emotional abuse in my longass story.
I was in a relationship with a guy for 7 years (I thought he was "the one," eye roll) and basically for the entire relationship he was slowly chipping away at me. I don't know if he was intentionally trying to be emotionally abusive--I don't think he was smart enough to enact some grand plan to break me down--but the result was that my already-existing body dysmorphia was taken to the extreme. He would come home every day and ask if I had worked out. I don't like to wear makeup, but he constantly wanted me to wear it, telling me "you could look so much hotter." I worked an office job and had to wear business casual clothes, and he would take me to the mall and point at teenager clothes (we were in our late 20s) and tell me I should get clothes like that and that I was trying to look older than I am. He also told me that 125lbs was the ideal weight he thought I should be, which is underweight for my height/body type. Don't even get me started on the sexual issues, and the absolute disaster that was couples therapy (we had a REALLY bad therapist who made it so much worse). It wasn't until I left him that I realized how bad his abuse truly was. That was 4 years ago now, and I STILL deal with the effects.
Anyway, idk why I typed this all out, but if anyone reads this, thanks for listening. This episode really got me in my feelings. I'm in therapy and it's one of the biggest things I want to work on, so I am okay, though! If you take nothing else away from this book of a comment, know that if your partner ever starts to talk derogatively about your body, don't walk, RUN! There are so many better people in the world who will appreciate you as you are, and even if you stay single until you die, it's better than being with someone who makes you feel ugly and less-than. Above all, love and cherish yourself.
As the parent of a non-binary, pan, poly young teen, I am so happy to see all the acceptance available to them in this new generation. My kid didn't 'come out' as poly or pan, they just were. They did feel the need to 'come out' as trans and it seemed harder for them to say it than it was for us to accept it. And their friends didn't miss a beat.
The body shaming part really hits for me. I've been made fun of nearly my entire life for being larger than what others deemed acceptable. Cut to me becoming an adult and getting a job at a plus sized clothing store, I lost a fair amount of weight in my early to mid twenties because of a chronic illness and medication but I was still technically plus sized. I then got comments from customers saying skinny people shouldn't be allowed to work at the store because they didn't get what it was like to be bigger (mind you I was in the 180s to low 200s but because of my height, I carry the weight well). I understand for some of the customers they lash out about those things because of how they feel about themselves, but I still wish I could've recounted all of the things that have been said to me in my life about my weight. Unfortunately the store is the kind of store that one complaint on me could've gotten me fired. Since middle school, I have never been smaller than a size twelve. Before the pandemic and another med change, I had consistently weighed between 175lbs and 200lbs at 6' tall. I have for the most part recovered from the trauma of growing up on the heavier side, but it's completely absurd that people feel it's necessary to comment on other people's bodies especially for those of us who can't always control what our bodies do as far as weigh gain or loss goes.
I love Obediahs presence in this. He talks to well and just gives off good vibes.
Regarding Story 2, I am 42F with 5 daughters ages 23, 22, 19, 18, and 13. I have ALWAYS been the mother that has told them that they should never be afraid to "come out". They should never feel they have to "come out." It should just be. I don't care who they are with as long as they are completely fulfilled and completely loved and in love. I would be so hurt if one of my kids brought home someone who they lied about was a roommate for years and suddenly they were married. I absolutely love your show. It is one of my favorites. I wait for Thursdays. I've watched all of them. I've been watching your dad's show now, and it would be a dream to be on there with you guys.
"If you chase the standard of beauty, you will be chasing your whole life" do you ever hear such a simple life-changing sentence 😘
When they were all talking about the guy who got secretly married to his husband, and they said that they didn't _need_ to come out to not be in the closet, my first thought was about how I "came out" as lesbian.
I was brushing my hair and my family had been silent for around 10 mins, this was when I was 13, and my mum just walked in, said "You know you're gay, right?" And I said "yeah", her only reaction was "Okay I'm glad that you know so you don't need to tell us" then went back to whatever she was doing.
I didn't come out, but i never attempted to hide it. Actually i don't think anyone ever assumed i was straight to begin with-
Loved this episode. I have struggled so much with body image, but throughout my journey to self love and the single life (so as to not seek male validation) I'm discovering new things about myself and try to focus on specific goals (fitness related, like getting strong arms and carry my on weight-oh, what a dream-) and i always try to remember that, no matter what, my relationship to myself comes first, 'cause I'll be my longtime companion. And also, life's too short to not enjoy yourself, in anyway you can, so as long as your happy and healthy, nothing else will really matter. Be that bitch, cause haters and trolls will always exist.
it’s interesting to me tbh how families can differ on what they do consider unacceptable.
my family is NOT accepting...
but they were fine with it when I was out as bisexual, the minute i realized i was actually a lesbian they were NOT OK with it. Hell the word is literally banned from being uttered in my house.
It’s interesting to hear people with the opposite experience.
My youngest daughter outed my older daughter. However, it was at the request of my oldest. She was scared to tell me because she thought I wouldn’t accept her. It broke my heart that she would feel that way. I hugged her and told her I’ll always accepted her and love her for who she is. She cried in my arms for about an hour. I’m not religious but my husband’s family is. She is scared to let anyone else know besides our immediate family. I know they will make inappropriate comments or making jokes about. I’ve had explained to my daughter she doesn’t have to tell anyone she doesn’t want to and I will always be by her side fighting for her and will easy drop those who don’t accept her for who she is. I’m hoping it has eased her mind but it still hurts knowing she is in pain and just wants to be accepted.
I know this episode was a bit ago but on the topic of never having to come out, my mum has always said I don't want to know, just bring home whoever you're with and I love that
im late to this episode, but i really like Morgxn and Obediah!! i hope they come back on the podcast!!
Can y’all do a skin positivity episode? Cystic acne is really hard to deal with.
This podcast is constantly the highlight of my week
Morgxn gets it! Sometimes having a label can be a lil constraining yo who you really are as a person.
As a pansexual woman it’s honestly the most irritating thing getting those comments like “oh but your dating a guy” or “you don’t look gay” and the bs about bi an pan people being cheaters has always drove me mad I’ve been cheated on by men women some in between and I have never cheated
Coming from someone who’s apart of the community, I don’t think making other people’s wedding guest list about myself is appropriate. Like it’s just not the crucial. It sounds like it’s their religious belief that marriage is between a woman and a man, so who cares? We can mutually disagree without dragging other people into it. It’s problematic to expect others to be social justice warriors for their own wedding.
I know this was posted a while ago, but I just wanted to say it is so amazing hearing them talk about all of this. Definitely helps me with my own identity and how I deal with it as a bisexual who doesn't tell everyone. I honestly don't care if people know, I even have a tattoo that the watercolor in it is the bi flag, but I don't tell people just to tell them and this made me feel validated for that I don't just tell everyone. Especially as I have some very close family friends who are older (60+) and Baptist Christian, and they are very open about the LGBTQ+ community but I just don't want to tell everyone in our friends/family as I don't know everyone (mostly their daughter in-law as one time her son asked me to put highlighter on him when I was doing his sisters makeup, so I just dabbed his nose with my highlighter brush and she freaked out about how boys can't wear makeup and it was wrong, in front of my brothers friend who had been asking me to teach him some makeup tips) will be as accepting.
Also, their comment on strokes are so true. My grandpa had a stroke before I was born and was completely paralyzed on the right side, so I feel like they broached it in a respectful way. Especially talking about how to woman is lucky to be up and walking, as my grandpa never did again. I feel like they definitely brought some great light to that.
Little brother (16) senior in high school broke up with his long term gf a couple months ago then recently told us all he was dating his friend Greg, i was ECSTATIC bc me and my other brother are bisexual as well. I wanted to talk to him about safe sex and relationship habits but didn’t want to get weird or stress him out after just coming out to us. Im going to get him these books im so glad I saw this ❤️
Great podcast episode!! I always listen while I’m doing chores or cleaning/cooking and it makes daily mundane life so much more enjoyable so thank you guys!! Loved the issues you touched on
i loved this episode so much ❤ thank you for helping all of us feel so included, and trying to normalize all of this in a world that is judgemental
Honestly, that Reddit response made me cry. What a deep, well thought out response. 💕
honestly i can’t blame the guy who hid his relationship for three years. my grandma isn’t necessarily homophobic but for the past FOUR fucking years she has said she won’t believe it until i am in a committed marriage for a few years. every day i wish i never told them and i just kept my life away from them.
May I join the Pisces chain, I'm the third. 🙋♀️
First story: it was my mum for me too. I came out as bisexual to my mum and she didn't believe me. Straight up just said 'no'. Luckily I have a very supportive dad who grew up tough but open community, and just wants his kids to be safe, healthy and happy. I also came out to my grandparents (dads side) when i was 19 and they were also super supportive. Didn't make a big deal, just accepted me and moved on kinda how you should. And my mum was left in an awkward position. 😊
I love this episode so much and your guest, you should have them back on if you haven’t yet🥰
I literally just finished another episode and was looking for something to do. Thank youuuu!!!
As a Christian girl myself, im so fucking done with the toxic view my "community".
Shunning people and hating on them in the name of "love". For people that claim to love like Jesus, not loving everyone, and being picky with who you accept is the opposite of Jesus and his message.
Adding on to the story at the 1h mark (where an aunt told her 7 year old nephew that her “roomate” was actually her wife):
When I(F) was a kid (around 5-6 years old), my best friend in the whole world was my cousin(F). We would constantly make eachother laugh & be inseparable. One summer day, when my mom was driving us to the beach, she overheard one of us tell the other “I love you so much that I want to marry you when we’re grown up!”, to which the other replied “but we’re both girls, we can’t marry eachother” in a dissapointed tone. My mom took it upon herself to intervene & say something like “well actually, there are ladies who marry ladies and misters who marry misters! It’s less common than ladies who marry misters, but it still happens!”. Apparently we both got so excited that our ‘dream of marrying eachother’ could happen, we hugged eachother with huge smiles for the rest of the drive. Once at the beach, we got busy doing other kid stuff and our ‘wedding’ was out of mind.
If you don’t make a big deal out of it, kids will move on from the subject pretty quickly; they’re little sponges and spend their entire upbringings learning about new concepts. Homosexuality isn’t groundbreaking or a “bad subject” if you don’t make it to be.
Also, my mom was nervous about telling my aunt about her telling us gay marriages were a thing (since it wasn’t her kid and she didn’t mean to intrude, but she recognized the learning opportunity and took it anyways). My aunt wasn’t mad about it. I don’t think we brought up the subject again; for us, it was just another mundane grown up thing we had learned about.
My cousin & I are still close but aren’t married now that we’re grown ups, for multiple reasons, one being that we’re related (my mom didn’t feel the need to spill the beans on why incest is bad that day, and I don’t blame her) and aren’t/have never been romantically involved. I’m pansexual and she is straight, not that it has anything to do with little kids professing their love to one another.
From my perspective, this was such a nonchalant conversation that I don’t even remember it. It definitely didn’t scar my childhood, and didn’t change any type of dynamic I’ve had with other people, or with my cousin. I’m happy about how my mom handled it. I also recognize that I’m privileged to have had this type of supportive parent, and that this conversation could easily have gone differently in another family.
Thank you for bringing up the discrimination and criticism that bisexual people receive from the LGBTQ+ community and straight people. Biphobia comes in many forms unfortunately. I’m a bi woman who has experienced the fetishization of bisexuality by straight people and couples. I just want to be who I am and love who I love. 🌈
The second story 1, totally disagree. NOBODY is going to use MY WEDDING to prove a point. Sorry not happening 💀
I’m fangirling here, translucent is like one of my fav songs ever 💛💛💛
what happened between taking the grandparents money for the mortgage and asking to uninvite them from the wedding. That's what I really want to know
this was really high vibe, thanks for sharing the goodness
I think alot of heterosexual conformist like diet acceptance also I think that Morgan and alejandera are both kind of "standard sizes* and this is what also helps form their point of views however I genuinely think that they are so accepting,loving and caring about others and aren't judgemental just watching them on youtube
I feel like Morgan couldn’t really talk when it came down to the family isn’t homophobic so they had no reason to not come out, the process of coming out is the most scary sad and terrifying thing you can do, it doesn’t even matter if the person most likely will accept you. It’s all the thoughts and doubts that they don’t. Imagining over and over again the family you love may not love you back can be crippling and the worst thing.
“Homophobia aside” hits me as “racism aside” it’s not separate and apart for those it effects
TWO+ HOURS 👏🏼 I love it
I really enjoy listening to these videos while I’m at work 😊 please continue the videos 💕💕
in regards to the first story, i feel like that's such a common experience for bi people (i'm also a bi person) and its really difficult because you're "too gay" for straight people" and "not gay enough" for LGBT+ people. it's very frustrating
When people ask how I define myself and sexuality I always say queer. I’m fine with whatever, I don’t have or want a label. I’m happy with being me and I don’t know what future me wants or will find out.
skinny shaming is 100% not the same as fat shaming. fat people in America are OPPRESSED skinny people aren’t
As a fat person whose normal-sized best friend is frequently upset about their weight, yes it absolutely stabs me in the heart and make me wonder what they must think about me. I never say anything though, because they are allowed to feel how they do about themself and make changes if they want. Feelings are always valid. I do wish they wouldn't complain about their weight to me, though.
It's ok. I'm sure your friend isn't trying to make you feel this way. For me some times I jave thoughts about me being fat because I'm average weight but at the same time when I see my mom and my Auntie who are overweight all I can think is how beautiful they are. So I think your friend is truly not trying to make you feel bad.
@@hayamirin6795 I know they're just offhand comments about themself, as everyone makes. They've made other fatphobic observations in the past though, and that has me concerned a bit.
i was actually confused at why they were assholes on the first reddit story while u guys read it but then when u started discussing it and listening to the top comment, i completely understand why inviting the grandparents would be homophobic. thank goodness i was able to understand it and see it through the perspective of a lgbtq+ person thanks to that comment
My sister is my best friend. We're one year apart and shared the same room for the entirety of our childhood. Two years ago, were now full grown adults and she mustered up the courage to finally come out as bi. She was nervous AF! I was the first person she decided to tell and when she told me I was like ok cool. She was like "Wait why are you so cool about this? I was terrified." I gave her a blank stare and was like "Girl I'm your best friend. I already knew! Proud of you for telling me though." And she was elated then we changed the subject and started talking about normal random things. A week later she calls me and starts ranting about how she told the whole fam and every single one of us had a similar reaction. She was flabbergasted that she'd spent so long hiding it from everyone. I was like " Biatch you got pics of josh Hutcherson and Zendaya hanging all over your room with hearts drawn around them. What were you hiding?!! Plus, we were never a very closed minded family. At the end of the day you're still you, that's all that matters and I love you." She was relieved and I can honestly say, I am very happy she's no longer in the closet and that the whole fam was on board I can only imagine how hard it is to fear rejection from those you love the most.
I personally hate labels. I'd prefer to just be. If i did label myself I'd be bisexual, poly, and possibly asexual towards my relationships with women. I'm happily married to a man and we have 5 kids, but this doesn't make me any less of who i am. My husband has always known who i am, and if i wanted to date a woman i can at any time. That does not mean that we have 3 somes. My relationships with both would be separate. Love is valid! People should be allowed to just be.... be who you are, no matter who or what that is. ❤
As a full figured woman… i think the story about the girl who’s fiancé fat shames people and her is super common. Men lowkey love the thickness but publicly they will do anything to maintain a reputation, esp for their boys… 🙄