Great content and a very helpful explanation of the legalize function when paired with the FX3/30. So if you are sending an SLog3 full range signal into the Ninja with no camera LUT applied, should you still use the legalise function if you are recording into the Ninja and using a Phantom LUT to view and monitor your footage for proper exposure with the LUT you plan to color grade with in post? For instance, you mentioned that you should turn off legalise if using an in-camera LUT to send the signal through HDMI to the Ninja V. So if you send an SLOG signal instead, and use the LUTs installed on your Ninja to monitor….does the in-monitor LUT somehow convert the full signal coming from the camera into a legal signal without using the actual legalise toggle? Or should we use the legalise function in combination with the monitoring LUT that was downloaded into our Atomos Ninja? Apologies for the long example, but as you can attest, this stuff is complicated and technical. Thanks!
phantom luts for slog3 expect a full signal, and the ninja v can't give you that. the only way to use phantom luts is to load it into your fx3/30 , that will transform full into legal and than the levels will be correct, but sadly the lut will be embedded into the recording.
What about just turning on the LOG/HDR switch under camera output on the Atomos and LOG set to “on” in camera? Would that make it correct? I’ve been doing that with my nikon Z9
@@thehumancamcorder9326 so when do we use legalize… for Rec 709? I’m using a Nikon Z9 and monitor with the gamut LUT on the atomos ninja.I also use that LUT when I edit log footage in davinci resolve. Will using a LUT to monitor LOG on the atomos effect the determination of using legalize or not. Should I still keep it off? I can’t apply LUTS in camera on LOG footage in the Z9 so basically it’s LOG in Z9 to Atomos ninja monitored with a LUT
Thank you for the video. But what if I were to do roundtrips from Premiere (Offline) > Resolve (Color grade) > Premiere (Export final video)? I am always getting wrong data levels when I export resolve > premiere
When feeding full level 709 in and legalize on it legalises signal by cliping signal that goes over legal range. Which is completly wrong it was supposed to compress signal. Function literarly fails to do wjat is supposed. Luckily i had option to feed video signal so i turn off legalize and get proper result, otherwise i would be ultra mad
Super cool video!! Are u from Romania?
This is absolutely useful tips . Thank you 🙏🏻
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709 doesn’t necessarily mean a legal signal, right?
Great content and a very helpful explanation of the legalize function when paired with the FX3/30. So if you are sending an SLog3 full range signal into the Ninja with no camera LUT applied, should you still use the legalise function if you are recording into the Ninja and using a Phantom LUT to view and monitor your footage for proper exposure with the LUT you plan to color grade with in post?
For instance, you mentioned that you should turn off legalise if using an in-camera LUT to send the signal through HDMI to the Ninja V. So if you send an SLOG signal instead, and use the LUTs installed on your Ninja to monitor….does the in-monitor LUT somehow convert the full signal coming from the camera into a legal signal without using the actual legalise toggle? Or should we use the legalise function in combination with the monitoring LUT that was downloaded into our Atomos Ninja?
Apologies for the long example, but as you can attest, this stuff is complicated and technical. Thanks!
phantom luts for slog3 expect a full signal, and the ninja v can't give you that. the only way to use phantom luts is to load it into your fx3/30 , that will transform full into legal and than the levels will be correct, but sadly the lut will be embedded into the recording.
What about just turning on the LOG/HDR switch under camera output on the Atomos and LOG set to “on” in camera? Would that make it correct? I’ve been doing that with my nikon Z9
unfortunately it won't work correctly. the levels are identical to the ones obtained with legalized function off, so this is not correct.
@@thehumancamcorder9326 so when do we use legalize… for Rec 709? I’m using a Nikon Z9 and monitor with the gamut LUT on the atomos ninja.I also use that LUT when I edit log footage in davinci resolve. Will using a LUT to monitor LOG on the atomos effect the determination of using legalize or not. Should I still keep it off? I can’t apply LUTS in camera on LOG footage in the Z9 so basically it’s LOG in Z9 to Atomos ninja monitored with a LUT
@@hopeforthefuturesg never ( or maybe for some fuji flavor emulation like eterna etc.)
@@thehumancamcorder9326 where did you get the info Eterna is full range? Does that also count for older cameras like xt3?
Thank you for the video. But what if I were to do roundtrips from Premiere (Offline) > Resolve (Color grade) > Premiere (Export final video)? I am always getting wrong data levels when I export resolve > premiere
if you shoot rec709 should be no problems, for log follow my guide
How did you get that centre cross point overlay?
ninja menu
When feeding full level 709 in and legalize on it legalises signal by cliping signal that goes over legal range. Which is completly wrong it was supposed to compress signal.
Function literarly fails to do wjat is supposed. Luckily i had option to feed video signal so i turn off legalize and get proper result, otherwise i would be ultra mad
Can't be changed? It can easily be changed.