I genuinely appreciate your videos and the knowledge you give to us in regards to building these boats. I love when you're kind of "winging it" in some steps/applications you haven't attempted before and are honest about it. It saves many of us a lot of time, money, and effort having you bite the bullet first giving us this content
I have the " on the fly jack plate " on a 16 foot Sylvan deep V with a 20hp Merc and I love it. It definitely made a difference with speed and controllability. Great vid informing those that are unfamiliar with the benefits of a jack plate.
I love when someone comes up with a better mouse trap... or in this case a better jack plate. It looks well built and built to last. And best of all it's built for tiny boats!
Ok...I gotta clear this up. It's an *anti-ventilation plate*. That gurgling sound is the prop ventilating which is the prop sucking in air. Cavitation is caused by a pressure differential around the prop or really turbulent water which causes aeration (bubbles) around the prop which causes the prop to slip. So many people get the two confused, they're similar but caused by different forces. I really liked how you pointed out the height differences though, especially when it comes to boats like the ones we build, everyone thinks the AV plate has to be X amount of inches above the keel for optimal performance which simply isn't the case. On smaller boats like these, its usually best from about 1" below to 1" above....nothing like a bass boat. Another great video brother.
Looks like the heart of the lift is an old high quality trailer tongue jack. Don't skimp here. Get the best ones you can find; and then go up from there. I will be using 2" steel tubing with ACME threads ... from old house jacks. The quality of your build will be remembered for a long, long time. UHMWPoly is expensive but slick. Use it!. My next build will be a 22' River Cat .. a Grand Canyon outfitter's boat for hauling a couple of tons of gear, powered by a pair of 35hp 4-strokes that need to be "Instant-On/Instant Reverse" on a heII-for-stout frame & transom. When TSHTF and a boat falls into a hole it can get wadded up like a scrap of tin foil, hold you in the Maytag and after it's chewed on you a while it will spit out like the butt of a dead cigar or a drowned rat. Cheap thrills. 30 seconds later you'll be puking and blowing, and then drifting along for a few more hours. But for that 60 seconds, we will want everything to be ... RIGHT!
Great video. Y concern is that my solar jet boat only needs like 1/2 inch rise to rung good so I’ve been using a shim for years. I’d love to see what it can do a little higher. This jack plate your showing looks like it starts at maybe 2” which I have no idea of that would already be to high. I thought at first I could just anchor the whole unit slightly lower to the transom but now I see the adjustment handle wouldn’t let it go any lower. Does the adjustment handle come off in case I need in that 1” lower? It’s also the offset that I’m after as I think it could work better with the jet tunnel. Your help is greatly appreciated.
I have good old 25 evinrude 1989 on my trapper topper 15. Stick steer. I was getting prop spin spun hub . I purchased a brand new prop with same pitch. 10.3 12p. I was on middle trim hit 22mph it had a bit more power to go i slammed the gas to full power and it spun the new prop. I then went to trim hole 2. It is level to the boats bottom and no cavitation but speed dropped to 21. I put a tack and testing rpm was at 4500 rpm. I purchased another prop Solas Amita 10.8 x 10p and rpm now is 5350 rpm top speed 23mph no chop. The engine is quick and quite. Next I'm considering a stingray junior and moving the trim to hole three and 4 to see how it goes. I have seen others with cavitation plate installed hitting 27-28 mpg.
Actually i am curious if the on the fly Jackplate works with this specific 9 1/2 Evinrude. Doesnt it have a very high waterpickup and thus wont be able to get enough water, as soon as the cavitationplate is lifted just above the waterline? cheers
been following you for years and thank for all the help and clue youve bring. ive always wonder if you know about Cleco usa . if not man get some ! you ll love me .
Thanks for video.Considering the on the fly for my 1440 Lowe that has a partial 9” transom top to bottom and just the aluminum transom from there to floor.Haw far apart are the top and bottom bolt holes?Also would I have to support the inside where there is no wooden transom for bottom holes?Motor is 20hp short shaft electric start Johnson.Not sure if it is too heavy?Have to weigh it.
Last summer I spun the original prop on my 62 Johnson 9hp outboard. The guy says that comes from full throttle from a stop or coming out the water. Since then I just slowly get up to speed. I’m not going anywhere fast anyways.
Hunting down a tilt/trim short to ground is one of the least enjoyable exercises. Agree, if you can avoid extra solenoids, relays, and wiring…definitely do so.
Nice video. Looks impressive the use of a jack plate on a bass boat but how beneficiary is it for a Plexiglas, 22feet, 200bhp boat, especially on a choppy sea?
You seem very knowledgeable regarding plates and smaller motors. With your experience what jack plate would you recommend for a Yamaha F25 long shaft four stroke with power tilt and trim? This is a bolt on motor and doesn’t have clamps. Appreciate any info! Love the video!
Awesome video. I new to boating. Would you recommend installing a jack plate on a 2018 Boston Whaler 150 montauk? I live in an area where there is plenty of skinny water and too many times I hit ground.
What about using something like a panther marine outboard motor bracket as a jack plate for a small hp motor like a 2 stroke 9.9? Seems like it does the same thing and is cheaper.
Just bought one from TBNation today and I'm looking forward to getting it. On your website it says it doesn't come with hardware but you say it does. Which is correct?
I just bought a used one and it has some play between the guides and the main plate.. its can wiggle maybe a 16th or 8th.. is that normal? Also I can hear the gears when lifting and lowering. Kinda loud, is that normal? I heard some of that noise on your video
My new Spirit 1.0 from your store is a long shaft bc that was recommended for my 20” transom. It sits almost a foot past my cavitation plate. I guess I’ll need me one of these now
That's completely up to you. I would use 3/8 or half inch hardware personally. I like to run 3 bolts minimum on each side. You can do it however you want though.
2-5 mph doesn't seem worth it even for the cheapest one. If it were a sub 100 dollar mod I could understand. I guess the only actual reason to get one is for shallows as mentioned.
Cavitation has nothing to do with prop slip due to air. Prop slip due to air is ventilation. Cavitation is when water boils and eats away at your prop causing pits and scars.
@@TinyBoatNation no not at all. Being an engineer I understand fully. You are entitled to your thoughts though, right or wrong. Maybe a little research would benefit. Enjoy your day.
Man what has happened with fishing? Seems like now all we do is spend so much time trying to make our boats go faster isn't fishing about slowing down and just enjoying a day on the water?
I genuinely appreciate your videos and the knowledge you give to us in regards to building these boats. I love when you're kind of "winging it" in some steps/applications you haven't attempted before and are honest about it. It saves many of us a lot of time, money, and effort having you bite the bullet first giving us this content
I have the " on the fly jack plate " on a 16 foot Sylvan deep V with a 20hp Merc and I love it. It definitely made a difference with speed and controllability. Great vid informing those that are unfamiliar with the benefits of a jack plate.
What speed difference you get?🤔
@@martynasmazutis7024 Depending on the water conditions 3 to 5 mph difference.
Would love to see pics of your Sylvan!
I love when someone comes up with a better mouse trap... or in this case a better jack plate. It looks well built and built to last. And best of all it's built for tiny boats!
I know, right!
Way to much for the product tho
Bought an on the fly, sitting in my garage waiting to be put on when the boat is done. Putting a 20hp Honda on it. Very excited
I also bought one two years ago. It's still sitting in the garage waiting to go on my old Alumacraft. I need to get that done !
Ok...I gotta clear this up. It's an *anti-ventilation plate*. That gurgling sound is the prop ventilating which is the prop sucking in air. Cavitation is caused by a pressure differential around the prop or really turbulent water which causes aeration (bubbles) around the prop which causes the prop to slip. So many people get the two confused, they're similar but caused by different forces. I really liked how you pointed out the height differences though, especially when it comes to boats like the ones we build, everyone thinks the AV plate has to be X amount of inches above the keel for optimal performance which simply isn't the case. On smaller boats like these, its usually best from about 1" below to 1" above....nothing like a bass boat. Another great video brother.
Thanks for the info!
Awesome video
Looks like the heart of the lift is an old high quality trailer tongue jack. Don't skimp here. Get the best ones you can find; and then go up from there. I will be using 2" steel tubing with ACME threads ... from old house jacks. The quality of your build will be remembered for a long, long time. UHMWPoly is expensive but slick. Use it!. My next build will be a 22' River Cat .. a Grand Canyon outfitter's boat for hauling a couple of tons of gear, powered by a pair of 35hp 4-strokes that need to be "Instant-On/Instant Reverse" on a heII-for-stout frame & transom. When TSHTF and a boat falls into a hole it can get wadded up like a scrap of tin foil, hold you in the Maytag and after it's chewed on you a while it will spit out like the butt of a dead cigar or a drowned rat. Cheap thrills. 30 seconds later you'll be puking and blowing, and then drifting along for a few more hours. But for that 60 seconds, we will want everything to be ... RIGHT!
I have the sea star jack plate on my Bluewave bay boat and it is a must have on a bay boat!
100% agree!
I like the idea of being able to get my lower unit shallow while running rivers... I just might have one of these in my future..
Definitely a great investment to have.
Great video. Y concern is that my solar jet boat only needs like 1/2 inch rise to rung good so I’ve been using a shim for years. I’d love to see what it can do a little higher. This jack plate your showing looks like it starts at maybe 2” which I have no idea of that would already be to high. I thought at first I could just anchor the whole unit slightly lower to the transom but now I see the adjustment handle wouldn’t let it go any lower. Does the adjustment handle come off in case I need in that 1” lower? It’s also the offset that I’m after as I think it could work better with the jet tunnel. Your help is greatly appreciated.
I have good old 25 evinrude 1989 on my trapper topper 15. Stick steer. I was getting prop spin spun hub . I purchased a brand new prop with same pitch. 10.3 12p. I was on middle trim hit 22mph it had a bit more power to go i slammed the gas to full power and it spun the new prop. I then went to trim hole 2. It is level to the boats bottom and no cavitation but speed dropped to 21. I put a tack and testing rpm was at 4500 rpm. I purchased another prop Solas Amita 10.8 x 10p and rpm now is 5350 rpm top speed 23mph no chop. The engine is quick and quite. Next I'm considering a stingray junior and moving the trim to hole three and 4 to see how it goes. I have seen others with cavitation plate installed hitting 27-28 mpg.
Thanks, that was very interesting!
DC
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sorry. Bit long winded there. Guess I’m just wondering is if the up down handle is removable so maybe I can get a wrench on it instead? Thanks!
Actually i am curious if the on the fly Jackplate works with this specific 9 1/2 Evinrude. Doesnt it have a very high waterpickup and thus wont be able to get enough water, as soon as the cavitationplate is lifted just above the waterline?
cheers
On the fly is excellent I would have most definitely bought one but I need a kick and jack as my motor doesn't unlock now
i love mine on my 9.9 evinrude
been following you for years and thank for all the help and clue youve bring. ive always wonder if you know about Cleco usa . if not man get some ! you ll love me .
Did you forget about this project. I'm looking for the next video
Thanks for video.Considering the on the fly for my 1440 Lowe that has a partial 9” transom top to bottom and just the aluminum transom from there to floor.Haw far apart are the top and bottom bolt holes?Also would I have to support the inside where there is no wooden transom for bottom holes?Motor is 20hp short shaft electric start Johnson.Not sure if it is too heavy?Have to weigh it.
Last summer I spun the original prop on my 62 Johnson 9hp outboard. The guy says that comes from full throttle from a stop or coming out the water. Since then I just slowly get up to speed. I’m not going anywhere fast anyways.
Hunting down a tilt/trim short to ground is one of the least enjoyable exercises. Agree, if you can avoid extra solenoids, relays, and wiring…definitely do so.
I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!
Nice video. Looks impressive the use of a jack plate on a bass boat but how beneficiary is it for a Plexiglas, 22feet, 200bhp boat, especially on a choppy sea?
You seem very knowledgeable regarding plates and smaller motors. With your experience what jack plate would you recommend for a Yamaha F25 long shaft four stroke with power tilt and trim? This is a bolt on motor and doesn’t have clamps. Appreciate any info! Love the video!
An OntheFly jack plate, or atlas micro jacker
Awesome video. I new to boating. Would you recommend installing a jack plate on a 2018 Boston Whaler 150 montauk? I live in an area where there is plenty of skinny water and too many times I hit ground.
What about using something like a panther marine outboard motor bracket as a jack plate for a small hp motor like a 2 stroke 9.9? Seems like it does the same thing and is cheaper.
If there's no adjustment feature, it's not comparable.
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Just bought one from TBNation today and I'm looking forward to getting it. On your website it says it doesn't come with hardware but you say it does. Which is correct?
Wish they would make one for above 30hp
Yeah, I know. IDK if they will do that, though.
@@TinyBoatNation yeah I don't think so either, if they did it probably be like $1,000 then you might as well buy a hydraulic jack plate
They do!
@@grasser82 send a link
What boat kits do you have for a 14 foot aluminum smoker craft
I just bought a used one and it has some play between the guides and the main plate.. its can wiggle maybe a 16th or 8th.. is that normal? Also I can hear the gears when lifting and lowering. Kinda loud, is that normal? I heard some of that noise on your video
Overpriced? Yes
Worth it? You bet your sweet a$$!😄👍👏👏👏
Would an on the fly manual work for a 40 jet?
Yes, you just have to get the right size
My new Spirit 1.0 from your store is a long shaft bc that was recommended for my 20” transom. It sits almost a foot past my cavitation plate. I guess I’ll need me one of these now
Can you send us pictures of the cavitation plate and the bottom of the boat? We would like to assess the way it sits
@@TinyBoatNation what’s a good email to send pics to?
@@caulkiii support@tbnation.net
Do you think I can put a Yamaha 70, on a On the fly Manuel plate up to 50? It’s 20 LB’s over the weight limit
I would not recommend it,
I wanted to know if you think a jack plate is needed with electric trim and tilt?
I will try to get a Tilt &Jack combo
On your dyi plate i just bought does it tell you how far to drill the holes or any paperwork on it
That's completely up to you. I would use 3/8 or half inch hardware personally. I like to run 3 bolts minimum on each side. You can do it however you want though.
Would you recommend using a transom saver brace with this jack plate system?
Yes
Hey thanks for the video I'm thinking of getting a fish 400 so would you say to get a jack plat for it or not?
What’s a fish 400?
@@TinyBoatNation marine 400 fish sorry didn't put it in right
Hey I have a alumacraft 195t pro do u think a jack plate with help my boat perform better it runs a 200hp yamaha
Yes
2-5 mph doesn't seem worth it even for the cheapest one. If it were a sub 100 dollar mod I could understand. I guess the only actual reason to get one is for shallows as mentioned.
Cavitation has nothing to do with prop slip due to air. Prop slip due to air is ventilation. Cavitation is when water boils and eats away at your prop causing pits and scars.
Semantics...
@@TinyBoatNation no not at all. Being an engineer I understand fully. You are entitled to your thoughts though, right or wrong. Maybe a little research would benefit. Enjoy your day.
Man what has happened with fishing? Seems like now all we do is spend so much time trying to make our boats go faster isn't fishing about slowing down and just enjoying a day on the water?
I don't make fishing videos. There's a bunch of limes on RUclips that do it already.
@@TinyBoatNation 😂
talking so fast
Hi, this is Rock Rooster Footwear. We sent you an email about cooperation inquiry. Would appreciate it if you could have a check. Thanks!
I don't see an email or DM from you. Please email me at Mike@TBNation.net. thanks.
Doesn't come with the hardware
I got a 1648 Jon with a 15" transom and a 25hp 2 stroke yamaha short shaft. Would this jack plate work with this combination????
Yes, up to a 30hp