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It seemed he never became a pro, wasnt able to improve his game no post moves, didn't improve midrange jumper, defensive was good competed. JC you never seen Chris Mullin shoot???
Nah if you are not a shooter there is no reason to try and shoot. Giannis is a prime example. Smith became inefficient down the last of his career. He hit big shots in that comeback against the Clippers tho.
@@smithswill7076 nah you still need to try doesn’t matter if you’re good at it or not at least show some effort you won’t get that much backlash for at least trying tho
In 2k, a young Josh Smith was an all star caliber beast when I used him at the 4 on a fast paced team. This video did a great job explaining why he didn't develop as well in real life as he did in video games.
What frustrated me about him especially when he got to my Pistons was he took way too many jump shots especially when he still had the athleticism to blow by his opponents and get buckets. He was still one of my favorite players during his prime even had his Atlanta Jersey good times.
As a Hawks fan, believe you me, that's the exact thing that caused us to "turn" on him. No one was sad to see him gone in the end. Overall he was still a great player for the team, and he had some All Star (snubbed) seasons for some exciting Hawks teams and will always be overall beloved... but by the end everyone was very ready to move on.
Why doesnt this channel have *2mill+* subscribers *MINIMUM* !? I havent followed the NBA since 2013... life got busy and i just dont care anymore but these videos bring me back to guys i knew!!!!
Kirelinko was a helluva shot blocker especially since he was a small forward. Also think he should be featured on stunted growth. He could've been the best player on the Utah Jazz in the mid 00s but Deron Williams came, Carloz Boozer, Okur and those guys took shots from him.
he was kinda like antoine walker in that he fell in love with the 3 instead of sticking to what made him great. antoine walker was a great all around player who could score pass and rebound during his first 3-4 years in the league. alot of people including myself thought he could be like kevin garnett but his game changed after he signed his first big contract. he basically became a stretch four even though he shot the 3 at a horrible percentage. the same thing happened to josh smith. he was great at playing defense and shot blocking and that is what he should have stuck to. if he had done that instead of falling in love with the 3 he would still be in the league.
Josh was the PF for practically all of his career with The Hawks. The lineup usually went like this: C - Horford PF - Josh SF - Marvin Williams SG - Joe Johnson PG - Bibby or Teague
Yes, he would occasionally get some mins at SF later in his Hawks career but they were very few. He didn't become a SF until he signed with Detroit. Hawks fans knew full time SF role for Josh would be a disaster offensively.
Ayyye another banger.... JS was Super Athletic but never developed a JumpShot. Keep grinding bro 40k subs OTW. Waiting on tht Calbert Cheaney Miles Simon and Bryant(Big Country)Reeves #StuntedGrowth
Kinda thought he was more a watered down version of Carmelo. Shows you what I know. Another great video. Greetings from SoCal. ( next do Kendall Gill )
Being from Atlanta it was hard watching him shoot. I remember plenty of games when the fans would literally yell "Josh don't shoot"!!!. Also booing him
I get it, maybe he was thinking: when athleticism fades, my jumpshot will keep me in the league. Too bad he never actually learned to shoot at decent levels
Wasn't a disappointment by far gotta really remember his growth came just a dunker and floor running defender. Developed a decent offensive game and fluent defender.
For what it’s worth, The Game is like 6’4”, and had a basketball scholarship to Washington State. Even he once tweeted that people confuse him for Josh Smith. LOL.
Also for years 2k made Josh Smith a 🐐 on the game. 2k developer used make the ATL offense run threw Josh Smith on my player/my career. He would always make the all NBA team and all defensive team.
I seen him Dwight Howard and Rudolph Morris play in high school in a AAU tournament also Jarvis Cretion for the Atlanta Celtics was probably the best high school or AAU team I’ve ever seen
One of my favorite what if's ever. And you know what's crazy is Josh Smith's jumpshot mechanics weren't bad. We've seen uglier form from guys who were better shooters than he was.
Its not bad.he took too many shots. Even a good shooter will have bad percentage when they take sht ton of shot. Kobe had 1 of the worst fg % because he shoots too much. The goal is to take smart shots
@@st4r444 he took way too many, but Josh Smith is just not a good shooter no matter the frequency. He’s a bad shooter and the fact he show a lot made him worse
Was on one of the greatest AAU teams as well. I remember classmates coming back after AAU tournaments talking about how Josh, Dwight, and J Critt were animals.
I think Josh Smith was slightly ahead of his time. If Smith was drafted five, maybe ten years later, he would've been a consistent fixture in the league.
Shooting and IQ was so bad for him. If he had corrected one of them he is would have been a poormans LeBron. If he would have fix both of them it would have been Josh Smith vs LBJ argument instead Melo. Just because Josh was willing to hustle on defense and more willing to pass unlike Melo.
Even just the IQ alone and he would have been good. LeBron dominated his first go around in Cleveland being a mediocre shooter at best and raw skill wise because of his IQ.
Imagine if his coaches used him or if he played like Draymond Green. J Smooth had all the tools to be a DPOY and a point forward like Dray, but was so much more athletic than Draymond. If Josh was in a system like the Warriors, surrounded by shooters he could have been a HOFer easily. He was a better finisher than Dray ever was, so a pick and roll with Josh and a Steph type with Klay on them floor would be crazy!!! The lobs and open drives Josh would have got and being that he finished at the rim like few others...a Josh/Steph pick and roll would have been unstoppable. If only Smooth had Dray's IQ and coaching situation.
Josh Smith was a beast defensively and solid offensively. He’s comparable to Gerald Wallace I think. At the end of the day a great coach that can control his shot selection would’ve benefited with him on the roster. Analytics ran him and Jamaal Crawford out the league. Analytics don’t measure toughness though and tell you he’s important if used correctly.
He should have made at least 1 all star team! I had no idea though that he had a terrible j, the hawks were usually a mediocre team from what I recall& didn't get a lot of national exposure on tv, but this guy had some serious potential...
This video started off pretty well. But quickly went down south. All that stuff about wrong era and wrong position is pointless. Focus on the era inn which he played. He’s the one that stunted his own growth. All these extra things have no bearing. We don’t need excuses.
I kind of agree with this. He always talk about that wrong era stuff. He has a slight point and that in today's era, he might have been pushed by coaches to practice his shot more. But he could have practiced his shot more regardless....
I still think Smith was nice for a hot minute. Not a bust at all just wasn’t able to take it to the next level. Poor man’s LeBron as some would say. BTW your channel is freaking phenomenal. I’m stuck like Chuck
His left handed wound up hitch stroke more looked like a bigger version of Derek Fisher minus the efficiency and good shot selection. At least he's not Ben Simmons. But he could've done much better in his career if only he's selective with his shots and put in more work on his shooting skills plus being mature enough when to take those shots.
Atlanta was dumb af they could had CP3, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith. CP3 would have been that edge to get ATL to ECF and probably 1 or 2 finals before heat big 3 took over.
@@andrebryant5081 I'll never forgive the Hawks for not drafting CP3 or Deron Williams and drafting Marvin Williams instead. We needed a point guard bad that year! What could've been...🤦🏾♂️
@@andrebryant5081 Exactly. Even in 2005, Atlanta drafting Marvin Williams over Chris Paul and Deron Williams made no sense. They needed a point guard for crying out loud!
Smith should've continued shooting inside the paint like he did in the 08-09 season. More seasons like that would've made him an all star and good second option on a contending team.
If he had been most of his career with a great passer like CP3 or J Kidd or someone like that his scoring numbers wouldve been amazing. He couldve been a lethal pnr scorer as the screener but he ended up thinking ge was like an isolated scorer like Melo or his teammate Joe Johnson instead. Coaching definitely stunted his growth too. He had the tools to easily become a hall of famer.
You should do Joshua Smith former center UCLA Georgetown. He was a big deal in Seattle and was ranked 1 as a senior center. Weight gain, coaching, transfer, etc stunted. Us Seattle hoopers would appreciate it thanks
Dwight's only stunt was caring what othe people thought. Dwight with thick skin would've been unstoppable. As it is he's still an all time great defensively.
@@ruxcooking defense yes. Offensively he is pop. Very mechanical. He is fortunate the era he played in being really the only center. With that being said his lack of an Offensive game limited his ability to be the best player on a championship team..
He was in the perfect situation in Orlando. Should've stayed. Might've done just as well when he planned to team with CP3 on the Nets but he handled that situation wrong. Like a lot of things in his career.
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When I first saw him, I thought he had next! Not quite "The next Lebron" but had a chance to be in that lane. Was his career disappointing? www.patreon.com/stuntedgrowth Please like and Subscribe if you Enjoy. 🙏🏾
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Harden has a nice left hand jumper
Damon and Salim Stoudamire and Travis Best Nick Van Exel had nice shots
It seemed he never became a pro, wasnt able to improve his game no post moves, didn't improve midrange jumper, defensive was good competed. JC you never seen Chris Mullin shoot???
Gotta remember the role he played in houston helping there comeback playoff series win against the clippers.
That game when he randomly hit 6 threes
Yea but Houston still didn't re sign him its stupied
With James harden being benched basically the entire fourth. That’s when I knew Blake abs cp3,lob city, and doc rivers were fools gold.
I 4got but what bouts winning 48games n missing playoffs. I wish dey had Dat play n shit back den
Yea after he bummed it up on my Pistons....Stan just cut the foo...just like his dumb self did with Dinwiddie 😒
Josh Smith was one of the best athletic dunkers and shotblockers of his era... I really liked his game
Amazing 1 foot leaper. I got him as the best!
Couldn't shoot
@@stuntedgrowth definitely was the best, he was jumping from far had the height and he was cuffin that bih 😭
@@stuntedgrowth probably best one foot I’ve seen other than LaVine.
@@soysizzle200 James White too
Unlike Ben Simmons, at least he took those shots. You can’t get better at something if you don’t attempt it.
Ben don't have the balls to try n develop a jumpshot during games
Nah if you are not a shooter there is no reason to try and shoot. Giannis is a prime example. Smith became inefficient down the last of his career. He hit big shots in that comeback against the Clippers tho.
@@smithswill7076 nah you still need to try doesn’t matter if you’re good at it or not at least show some effort you won’t get that much backlash for at least trying tho
@@GArmand715 good luck with that then lmao.
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In 2k, a young Josh Smith was an all star caliber beast when I used him at the 4 on a fast paced team. This video did a great job explaining why he didn't develop as well in real life as he did in video games.
On 2k dude was legendary 🤣
Still play with him on 2k13 🤣
Same lmao traded bosh for him and had a 3peat with Miami averaging 30 fast break dunks a game 🤣
Josh Smith was baby LeBron lol but I definitely been waiting for this, I’m just amazed that Smith never made an Allstar game
He Def could've been.
Didn't he make the all-star team once when the Hawks sent 4 players?
@@marksylvain2839 Nope Kyle Korver did though
@@marksylvain2839 He wasn't on the Hawks at that point.
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What frustrated me about him especially when he got to my Pistons was he took way too many jump shots especially when he still had the athleticism to blow by his opponents and get buckets. He was still one of my favorite players during his prime even had his Atlanta Jersey good times.
As a Hawks fan, believe you me, that's the exact thing that caused us to "turn" on him. No one was sad to see him gone in the end. Overall he was still a great player for the team, and he had some All Star (snubbed) seasons for some exciting Hawks teams and will always be overall beloved... but by the end everyone was very ready to move on.
Why doesnt this channel have *2mill+* subscribers *MINIMUM* !?
I havent followed the NBA since 2013... life got busy and i just dont care anymore but these videos bring me back to guys i knew!!!!
That would be nice. Doing it for the love though. Thank you!
@@stuntedgrowth dats wassup, dis work is equal or better than any ESPN special
I tried to model my game after Josh Smith and Kirelinko, but then my growth was stunted at 6’1”
I modeled mine after Dirk but i also got stunted at 6’1”. ☹️
XD
It was still good though
I was stunted at 5'11
Kirelinko was a helluva shot blocker especially since he was a small forward. Also think he should be featured on stunted growth. He could've been the best player on the Utah Jazz in the mid 00s but Deron Williams came, Carloz Boozer, Okur and those guys took shots from him.
I try modeling my after rodman but never made it pass 5'9 @humdrum9351
he was kinda like antoine walker in that he fell in love with the 3 instead of sticking to what made him great. antoine walker was a great all around player who could score pass and rebound during his first 3-4 years in the league. alot of people including myself thought he could be like kevin garnett but his game changed after he signed his first big contract. he basically became a stretch four even though he shot the 3 at a horrible percentage. the same thing happened to josh smith. he was great at playing defense and shot blocking and that is what he should have stuck to. if he had done that instead of falling in love with the 3 he would still be in the league.
Unfortunately the league wants everyone to play like a guard now. He probably just didn’t want to get typecasted as a 5.
Josh was the PF for practically all of his career with The Hawks. The lineup usually went like this:
C - Horford
PF - Josh
SF - Marvin Williams
SG - Joe Johnson
PG - Bibby or Teague
Yes, he would occasionally get some mins at SF later in his Hawks career but they were very few. He didn't become a SF until he signed with Detroit. Hawks fans knew full time SF role for Josh would be a disaster offensively.
Great video dawg you hella killed me when you dropped that “bricks “ by Gucci mane when he bricked the threes 😂😂😂
Ayyye another banger.... JS was Super Athletic but never developed a JumpShot. Keep grinding bro 40k subs OTW. Waiting on tht Calbert Cheaney Miles Simon and Bryant(Big Country)Reeves #StuntedGrowth
Poor man Lebron. Being from GA watchin all the games he shoulda made 1 All-star team
Been waiting on this one.. was one of my favorite players
Kinda thought he was more a watered down version of Carmelo. Shows you what I know.
Another great video. Greetings from SoCal. ( next do Kendall Gill )
Being from Atlanta it was hard watching him shoot. I remember plenty of games when the fans would literally yell "Josh don't shoot"!!!. Also booing him
I think josh would have never accepted playing down low. He thought he was a wing. But he couldn't shoot
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Talking about a stat stuffer man his box score would amaze me at times. Hell of a talent
Man while I don’t always agree these videos are so insightful and such an interesting way to look at players you sometimes forget about
“Masquerading as a 3” 😂😂 real talk he was a legit 4 skill wise but had the body of a 3
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I know it's only 2k but man Josh Smith was good when switched to PF like you say he ends up an all star
He would always make the all NBA team and defensive team in My player/My career mode
I get it, maybe he was thinking: when athleticism fades, my jumpshot will keep me in the league. Too bad he never actually learned to shoot at decent levels
Yea. His mechanics started too late
The gucci mane bricks edit is pure comedy 😭🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't a disappointment by far gotta really remember his growth came just a dunker and floor running defender. Developed a decent offensive game and fluent defender.
Being a 6'9 SF hurt him if he grew to 6'11 PF he might have been the Greek Freak 1.0.
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He looks like game
Exactly like him lol
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For what it’s worth, The Game is like 6’4”, and had a basketball scholarship to Washington State. Even he once tweeted that people confuse him for Josh Smith. LOL.
THANK YOU...been waiting for this one
He was an all star snub from 2010-2013
Also for years 2k made Josh Smith a 🐐 on the game. 2k developer used make the ATL offense run threw Josh Smith on my player/my career. He would always make the all NBA team and all defensive team.
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I seen him Dwight Howard and Rudolph Morris play in high school in a AAU tournament also Jarvis Cretion for the Atlanta Celtics was probably the best high school or AAU team I’ve ever seen
I had classmates who played for The Family Detroit who played against them in AAU and said the same. I forgot Randolph Morris was on that squad also.
Randolph*
Also had mike Mercer and Brandon rush on that team
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Tru story folk I played with them ATL Celtics frfr 👽🛸🤞🏾
One of my favorite what if's ever.
And you know what's crazy is Josh Smith's jumpshot mechanics weren't bad. We've seen uglier form from guys who were better shooters than he was.
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Its not bad.he took too many shots. Even a good shooter will have bad percentage when they take sht ton of shot. Kobe had 1 of the worst fg % because he shoots too much. The goal is to take smart shots
@@st4r444 he took way too many, but Josh Smith is just not a good shooter no matter the frequency. He’s a bad shooter and the fact he show a lot made him worse
Can you do Stanley Johnson, he had the size and weight to be good, but stayed camped out on the 3pt line
Finally! Been asking for this feature.
Dude looks like the Game
I liked that 04 class my year 🤘🏽🤘🏽💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Derrick Coleman “like “ but without the jumper
Good comparison...Smith way more athletic tho
Been waiting on this one 💯 next Smith you should do is Nolan lol
As a longtime hawks fan, when he shot that ball it gave me heartburn
Agree but those days were sooo much more exciting than today ! Josh, Joe, Al , Jamal ……
Was on one of the greatest AAU teams as well. I remember classmates coming back after AAU tournaments talking about how Josh, Dwight, and J Critt were animals.
Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings were my 2 favorite non allstar players. Both ended up on my favorite team and it wasn't pretty. Go Pistons!
Another really good video, bro
Dude I love your channel!!
Thank you
Josh was the definitely of not being honest with yourself and knowing your own game
J-SMOOVE!!!!!
Dude had major ups I remember when he was on the slam cover in h.s
I think Josh Smith was slightly ahead of his time. If Smith was drafted five, maybe ten years later, he would've been a consistent fixture in the league.
Haha, I'm a lefty baller with mid-range game. A great shooter once told me that "your form looks different on every shot." Damn haha, oh well...
A professional career if 13 years is solid. He is far from a bust.
Ah snap I have been waiting for this one. You have to do his draft member Josh Childress
He went to my rival Mc Eachern Highschool, he wasn’t going to go pro attending McEachern.. so he had to go to OakHill.
Josh Smith gives me Method Man vibes😎M•E•T•H•O•D MAN!
Riiiight, Mr. Tical in da building
Shooting and IQ was so bad for him. If he had corrected one of them he is would have been a poormans LeBron. If he would have fix both of them it would have been Josh Smith vs LBJ argument instead Melo. Just because Josh was willing to hustle on defense and more willing to pass unlike Melo.
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Even just the IQ alone and he would have been good. LeBron dominated his first go around in Cleveland being a mediocre shooter at best and raw skill wise because of his IQ.
No Melo slander. Melo guarded Kobe in the WCF and did decent for real
Josh Smith was an great athlete and especially at dunking! It sucks that he never got selected as an all star in the NBA
Chris Mullin had a smooth jumper
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Imagine if his coaches used him or if he played like Draymond Green. J Smooth had all the tools to be a DPOY and a point forward like Dray, but was so much more athletic than Draymond. If Josh was in a system like the Warriors, surrounded by shooters he could have been a HOFer easily. He was a better finisher than Dray ever was, so a pick and roll with Josh and a Steph type with Klay on them floor would be crazy!!! The lobs and open drives Josh would have got and being that he finished at the rim like few others...a Josh/Steph pick and roll would have been unstoppable. If only Smooth had Dray's IQ and coaching situation.
When he went to the pistons his career was OVER
Sean May most def gots to be up next after this one.
That Atlanta Celtics team he was on was CRAZY talented
Brought back memories wit that
Lefty with a great form , come on man Chris Mullin!
Yea Chris Mullin and James Harden
Mullin, harden, manu, conley, rodney rogers, Tony kukoc
Can you do one on Cuttino Mobley????
Very underrated I think he'd thrive in this era
Josh Smith was a beast defensively and solid offensively. He’s comparable to Gerald Wallace I think. At the end of the day a great coach that can control his shot selection would’ve benefited with him on the roster. Analytics ran him and Jamaal Crawford out the league. Analytics don’t measure toughness though and tell you he’s important if used correctly.
He should have made at least 1 all star team! I had no idea though that he had a terrible j, the hawks were usually a mediocre team from what I recall& didn't get a lot of national exposure on tv, but this guy had some serious potential...
his own home crowd would yell NO!!! everytime he shot a rainbow jumper
That’s so crazy I was just thinking abt him for u
That dunk at 3:05 😳😭I wanted josh to make that so bad crowd would’ve went NUTS NOBODY was doing that back then IN GAME
I like Josh Smith. He was stunned..
This video started off pretty well. But quickly went down south. All that stuff about wrong era and wrong position is pointless. Focus on the era inn which he played. He’s the one that stunted his own growth. All these extra things have no bearing. We don’t need excuses.
I kind of agree with this. He always talk about that wrong era stuff. He has a slight point and that in today's era, he might have been pushed by coaches to practice his shot more. But he could have practiced his shot more regardless....
I alwayz like J-Smuv i wish he could've worked on his jumper he was a Superb shot blocker among other things
They should change the nba logo to josh smith’s shooting form.
If he could have just stopped shooting so many threes dude had the tools to be even better.
I think he had a solid career! When ever you hear his name come up in bball convos its followed by "Baller"
His shooting form looks like a lefty version of Lanzo, but 13 season he can't complain.
loved Chris Bosh's form and that man's a lefty
I still think Smith was nice for a hot minute. Not a bust at all just wasn’t able to take it to the next level. Poor man’s LeBron as some would say. BTW your channel is freaking phenomenal. I’m stuck like Chuck
2021 in he still better then like 50% off the small forwards in the league right now
His left handed wound up hitch stroke more looked like a bigger version of Derek Fisher minus the efficiency and good shot selection.
At least he's not Ben Simmons. But he could've done much better in his career if only he's selective with his shots and put in more work on his shooting skills plus being mature enough when to take those shots.
Van Exel has a great shooting form
How about doing one on Amare Stoudamire or Dennis Scott or Rudy Gay.
Or Charles Barkley
Think he did one on Rudy Gay
I still remember that in game Eastbay dunk he missed against the heat in the 09 playoffs I said 😳 that would’ve been top all time playoff dunk
Imagine if he got a good shooting coach to help on his jumper.
Another good one. Please do stunted growth black coaches
Atlanta needed him, Marvin Williams and LAW to really pan out and it wasn't there when it was most important my pov
Atlanta was dumb af they could had CP3, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith. CP3 would have been that edge to get ATL to ECF and probably 1 or 2 finals before heat big 3 took over.
@@andrebryant5081 I'll never forgive the Hawks for not drafting CP3 or Deron Williams and drafting Marvin Williams instead. We needed a point guard bad that year! What could've been...🤦🏾♂️
@@andrebryant5081 Exactly. Even in 2005, Atlanta drafting Marvin Williams over Chris Paul and Deron Williams made no sense. They needed a point guard for crying out loud!
@@chrismathgenius The owner figured Joe Johnson could be Magic being a 6'7 PG
You should do Darius Washington jr that played for Memphis. I remember him being hyped.
“Smith was the watered down version of Lebron..” 😬Oooooooooo that’s a lot of water😬
Derek Fisher had the best jumpshot I''ve seen for a lefty.
Yeah, it was effective....but still ugly...lol
I'd say harden. Harden lines his left side of the body up with his shot.
I also remember him winning a slam dunk contest back in tha day,don't remember tha year tho.
Remember this is Josh "I gotta family to feed" Smith who made $91 million in his NBA career and apparently wanted more.
He’s the first Blake Griffin
Smith should've continued shooting inside the paint like he did in the 08-09 season. More seasons like that would've made him an all star and good second option on a contending team.
What abt Michael Redd he was a left handed shooter and he was super underrated.
If he had been most of his career with a great passer like CP3 or J Kidd or someone like that his scoring numbers wouldve been amazing. He couldve been a lethal pnr scorer as the screener but he ended up thinking ge was like an isolated scorer like Melo or his teammate Joe Johnson instead. Coaching definitely stunted his growth too. He had the tools to easily become a hall of famer.
You should do Joshua Smith former center UCLA Georgetown. He was a big deal in Seattle and was ranked 1 as a senior center. Weight gain, coaching, transfer, etc stunted. Us Seattle hoopers would appreciate it thanks
You gotta do Dwight Howard next. He is another guy who growth was “stunted”
Facts
Dwight's only stunt was caring what othe people thought. Dwight with thick skin would've been unstoppable. As it is he's still an all time great defensively.
@@ruxcooking defense yes. Offensively he is pop. Very mechanical. He is fortunate the era he played in being really the only center. With that being said his lack of an Offensive game limited his ability to be the best player on a championship team..
He was in the perfect situation in Orlando. Should've stayed. Might've done just as well when he planned to team with CP3 on the Nets but he handled that situation wrong. Like a lot of things in his career.
@@ruxcooking it was Deron, but might have been a better situation. Played with a PG that could set him up better
JC, you're buggin'; Marcus Paige has a BEAUTIFUL J! Maybe he deserves a Stunted Growth ep too
Josh was a real hybrid ahead of his time. Athleticly
Them hawks teams from 2008-2012 was great
Lmaoooo @ the Gucci mane bricks