I gotta add Chained Echoes. No random battles, no grinding for levels, no healing in between battles, and some bonus side content that isn’t required to get strong enough to make it through. Failure in battle just puts you back to the start of the fight, so there’s no long runs through dungeons from save points to boss battles. It’s been a joy to play.
so what respect your time now is visual novels and visual experiences see im here to ask what is the g stand for in rpg now where is the game for rpg far to many people want to pass off games that are barely or even arguably not a game and be like yep this is a game
Additionally, if you replay Scarlet Nexus with the second protagonist, the game will let you start off with your endgame stats, which lets you blow through the early parts of the game that are normally set up with a slower pace and fewer abilities to acclimate you to the game. Since you don't gain tons of EXP from the early stuff either, the later content will still be able to catch up to you respectably, so while it's a little easier it's still enough to require attention once you get past the early parts. Not only that, but the specific, final character event between the two protagonists will re-trigger once you unlock free switching between them so that you can switch back to the first character you completed and replay the event with the expanded dialogue you get having played both sides of the story.
@@Cinetiste : Its biggest benefit is having REALLY good action. The story covers too many plot points in one go, but I like the characters and how they tie into the game's overall theme of issues with a modern 'connected society'. In more ways than one, you could say it's like a SciFi equivalent to the Tales games. The pace of the game is easygoing about letting you do what you want between main story missions; a formula I like. It's nice to be able to stop and take things in for a while between chapters. You do progress by levels and gear, so there is something to do during intermissions beyond the characters' side stories, which start out as short interactions and get longer further into the game. The two main characters are really well balanced in terms of gameplay. People seem very evenly split on which one they lean toward. Story wise, I'd be more inclined to recommend Yuito first if you intend to play both sides, or Kasane if you think you might only play it once. Still probably my personal second favorite game. :)
This is absolutely helpful! Although I love Trails and Persona, brief games in between are great palette cleansers. Thank you for this list. I'm starting Scarlett Nexus tonight.
I recently played Live A Live, and I'd add that to the list. The individual stories were varied and brief, but felt fulfilling all the same, and I didn't have to grind that much.
Chrono Cross is the first JRPG I can remember that took steps forward to respect players time: visible enemies; you only level up a few stats/levels when you arrive to new areas; sidequests to gather characters were completely optional; the story progression was straightforward. The only thing I remember grinding for were the spoils left by enemies when you used summons to kill them, but that wasn't much of a hassle.
I recently finished Tails of the Abyss and I can definitely say you can get through it without too much grinding. You don't even need to bother learning most of the mechanics. You learn fang blade during the tutorial and I kept that move equipped the entire game.
One great thing about Odin Sphere is that, while there are extra scenes to unlock in the True Ending, you don't have to go out of your way too much, just fight some extra boss fights that, if you're ready to go for the ending, you're powerful enough to deal with anyway!
Been thinking of playing Odin Sphere for years now, as Grand Chase was my first MMORPG and that one was also a sidescroller. It's actually super hard to find sidescrolling RPGs. If you guys know more, please tell me. One I beat recently was E.V.O.: Search for Eden, but it's not a traditional RPG. Hopefully the translation for Princess Crown comes out eventually. I always heard that Odin Sphere is very difficult to beat! I only have the PS2 version.
Fell in love with sidescrollers when i asked an aunt to buy me a Ragnarok online installer disc. I got the Ragnarok Battle Offline. And you know what? That game was so freaking good. I dont remember how i found out about Odin Sphere. I wasnt much of an internet user back then, but it quickly became my favoritr genre and game. If only i found out about SoTN earlier
@@t.castro4493Odin sphere has to be my favorite game ever, both versions are fun but leifthrasir is definitely an upgrade You should try Muramasa it's also from vanillaware and it's a similar genre There is also Battle Princess of Arcadia's that is sort of an Odin sphere clone in it's gameplay I'm also a big fan of games like these but I'm also looking for them :'c Metroidvanias are a good alternative though, and most of them have soft rpg elements like Castlevania
@@t.castro4493a few others that I can remember are Bladed Fury, Lost Epic and The Vagrant There are actually a bunch of games like these in PC, though most of them are indies There are also a bunch on mobiles but it's hard to find ones that don't have microtransactions and you'll have to use touch controls (though I do remember having a lot of fun playing am old game called arcane soul on my phone, and it was an action side roller rpg like these c:)
I didn't mind that for the Suikoden games, because I enjoyed every moment with them. However, one thing I recommend you check out is Bravely Default and Bravely Second, it allows you to completely turn off encounters, and it even lets you speed up battles.
I would like to add Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology to the list of games that respect your time. You don't have to grind heavily thanks to the 'slash on screen' option so long as you're on the easist setting and the side-quests it does have all help improve the plot since they change events. Even if it doesn't seem like a great respect of a player's time, it is a fun game that I highly recommend to anyone with a 3DS/2DS that likes time-travel.
I love Radiant Historia. Not a short game, but I agree it rarely feels like wasted time, IF you don't allow yourself to get sidetracked by too much optional stuff. If you're the sort of person who can't help but finish optional content, the game turns into a time sink.
Sounds about right. It took me about 40 hours to fill out the timeline in Radiant Historia, 45 for Perfect Chronology, with the help of guides for some of the side quest conditions. I didn't do much in PC's post-game dungeon though.
I would never say Suikoden games are grindy, taking into account the leveling system they have, what makes you use up lots of time is finding every little secret or recruitable character possible... specially if you do a blind playthrough XD
Suikoden games are very minimally grindy and when you do grind, the characters who are behind catch up very quickly. Overall, with the exception of Suikoden 3, I never found grinding all that necessary in the series.
Since u mentioned odin sphere, i think Vanilla Ware's other masterpiece 13 Sentinels : Aegis Rim deserves a mention as well. A perfect blend of visual novel and tactical rpg elements with a incredible mind bending story. I completed it in 30 Hrs and since their is single ending you don't need to do multiple playthroughs
I think we need to add more support for indie games. And I will do that in this list by mentioning OMORI. It's a story-heavy game with a lot of dialogue, but even with that, a playthrough is only about 30 or so hours, and almost none of it is spent grinding. Sidequests exist, but they are easily skippable and only a few yield awesome rewards (the first couple, mainly) and a lot of them are actually hard to find and are only for an optional achievement at the very end. The only somewhat difficult spot in the game is the Junkyard. Once you get through that, which isn't That bad, if you find the forest after it difficult, there's an optional area that will give you several levelups in just a few minutes (5-10 minutes tops) which turns the forest from moderately difficult to laughably easy, and assuming you fight at least some of the stuff in the way (no random encounters, you see the enemies while you walk around though they will chase you if they see you), the rest of the game will be moderately easy as well. It only has two routes, and once you finish the game once, going the other route should be rather quick and easy as you already know what to do for a large portion of the game, and the split between the routes happens immediately after the (admittedly long) prologue so you don't have to do the prologue twice if you create another save before the split. EDIT: If you're not up for actually playing OMORI, I still recommend finding a good youtuber who did a playthrough of it and watch it. The story is very engaging and thought-provoking and is one of the best stories I've ever seen laid out in a video game format. The attention to detail is insane, and so are some of the plot twists.
I love my JRPG’s and have since I was little but they sure take up a good chunk of your time. As an adult I just don’t have that much free time anymore. 🥺
I loved The Diofield Chronicle. My only issue was that it felt like nearly 2 hours of cutscenes were missing. It could have fleshed out some of the characters and relationships.
Oh man, I really wish they would remaster Eternal Sonata, just to clean it up a little bit for modern hardware. It was such a niche game, that too many people missed out on it. Good list though, especially with Abyss and Xilia.
I love Odin Sphere. Played the original and the remastered version. The story and artstyle was simply golden. Though i do find Valkyrie Profile to fill some itch too. A little grindy, but worth it in the end. And of course, my personal fav, the Suikoden series. Except for 4, waterworld.
Lost Sphear - PlayStation 4, Switch Scarlet Nexus - PlayStation 3 Langrisser I & II, remake - Switch, PS4 Tales of the abyss - PlayStation 2 Vandal Hearts - PlayStation 1 Eternal Sonata - PlayStation 3 Tales of Xillia - PlayStation 3 Diofield Chronicle - PlayStation 4 Xs 9 - Playstation 4 Odin Sphere - Liefdrasir - PlayStation 4
Blue Reflection comes to mind as a JRPG that respect your time. The game is short, (around 10-15 including side quests), easy, and doesn't require almost any grinding. In my 14 hours with the game I reached max level, did all the side quests, and beat the game. Also Hinako is one of the best JRPGs protagonists I've played.
Great List! I will definitely check the ones I have yet to play . I would like to add The Last Story as another great game that respects your time. I wish more games came out in the similar style but The Diofield Chronicle seems it might scratch that itch of movement and action similar to The Last Story.
Yeah I agree. Yuito's story had me asleep for 75% of the game too. The combat was fun for the first 10 hours but after that it just overstayed its welcome, I barely found the energy to finish one campaign. The only thing I really enjoyed was the soundtrack...
Much love for giving some spotlight to Odin Sphere! Getting it on sale for a measly $5 was the best decision I could’ve made for one of the best games I ever played. Love the CrossCode music in the intro too. ;)
Naruto: Path of the Ninja, 1 and 2. Both have a compelling story where you don't have to grind for two hrs (though I consider that light grinding) between missions. If you learn how effective type affinities are, you can beat the entire game without any grinding. Of course, thats a detriment if the game isn't challenging, but there are several challenging bosses. If you're a fan of turn-based you'll love these.
I also find Breath of Fire 3 a very good game, apart from the Desert, but the desert is more of a issue with translation rather than bull from the devs. If you know what you're doing, you will get past the desert in 14 minutes, you can add +20 if you want to grab the special armor and blades, but that's it. You can finish the game pretty fast too and it has a nice story. It's a very old RPG but it's an awesome one for me.
I would swap Ys IX for Ys Origins on this list if that counts, it plays more like a dungeon crawler and there's no fluff at all. Tough game and some of the best boss battles in the series.
Absolutely love Ys Origins, it's one of my all-time favorites. It does do the whole thing with beating the game with all characters for the true ending though.
I'd like to put forth Xenosaga 1 and 3. Yes the story sequences are gloriously long, but that's what makes it respect your time. The gameplay has a few sidequests, but mostly it's just a turn-based RPG with reasonably paced dungeons which tells a masterful story with a lot of production values - especially for the time - three amazing soundtracks and some really interesting themes and characters.
Xenosaga III in particular addressed one of the common complaints people had with the previous entries: battles that can take too long to finish. They fixed that in XS III by giving the game blazing-fast battle transitions and attack animations, making battles go by a lot faster compared to its prequels.
@@jairocolombo4410 I can see why some would find the first one boring. A lot of technobabble. I personally found everything about its story at least captivating enough to have either played the game, watched all the cutscenes as a movie or read the game script at least 7 times. I find the whole trilogy still one of the best game narratives out there, and it's a shame both that it's inaccessible on modern hardware and that it didn't get expanded upon in the way it was intended.
@@TheHarunate I love the whole trilogy, and 1 especially holds a special place for me. But I can't deny that 3 is, gameplay wise a much better experience.
Odinsphere was such a find. I just randomly picked it up at gamestop one day, and got IMMEDIATELY hooked. Same with Tales of Xillia/Xillia 2. Still waiting for the PC port...
Thsnks for putting my Tier S game in the #2 spot. I want to add a bunch of games to this list like: The Lost Child, Eternal Radiance, Neptunia x Senran, and La Pucelle Ragnorak.
...I seriously question the inclusion of Tales of the Abyss as it's easily up there as a longer title in the series...hell I hear many complaints for the game is the addition of the 3rd act felt like it padded the game further than it needed/was almost a rehash of the 2nd act of the game and is easily double the length of Xillia (unless you're skipping story dialogue and doing no sub quests) which is a game I agree fits the list fine (hell imo it'd probably be about 5th or 6th longest game in the series imo)...if I was to choose a 2nd Tales game (and not going back to retro Tales games which were shorter overall due to a bit more simplified writing) it'd probably be Dawn of the New World. And the whole skipping battles is a thing for almost all Tales games besides the first few games in the series, Legendia, and Hearts R and as far as combat goes your choice of difficulty option will also make your run faster or longer due to enemies taking longer to kill on higher difficulties due to HP being increased (not really a big change in difficulty imo outside of enemies maybe being a bit more aggressive or unlocking a mystic arte in some cases but that'd be about it...only Tales game that felt like the difficulty change made the enemies a bit harder was Arise where their level of aggressiveness went from say a 2 on Normal to a 5 on Intermediate and then an 8 on Hard and 10+ for higher difficulties whereas most other games would be a 2 on Normal, 3 on Intermediate, 5 on Hard, and then 7 on higher difficulties in comparison in terms of how aggressive they were...throw in Arise's enemies htis actually do hurt thought he HP sponginess of even mob enemies, especially bosses, can be a bit ridiculous (though it's obvious done to push players to use the team fatal strikes on mobs once they fill the game's 'break' gauge rather than take out their normal HP...bosses though are ridiculous as you can only hit them with it at half HP so the quickest method to beating them is basically building Alphen with his Flame edge attacks in mind, charge them up until he has 1 hp, and them wipe out about a quarter of the bosses HP with flame edges and get healed by Shionne/Dohalim immediately afterwards...ally AI being ass also doesn't help as most of the time they get themselves killed (biggest complaint I have about the game mechanically...outside of that last half of story was meh, though not as bas as Vesperia's final act imo, and side quests sucked). Granted any Tales game (or action game in general) you can easily breeze through as they rely more on skill than stats unlike turn based games 90% of the time (keeping up with most recent equipment will make it faster of course but in action games you can avoid damage completely via dodging while counterattacking in real time unlike TB games where the evasion stat determines that. The STR stat only really becomes an issue in an action game if the difference between your STR/Level and the enemies STR/LV/DEF is about 20x or more and you're only dealing about 10s/hundreds of damage on a 100K HP boss which usually only happens if your about 20+ levels lower or using very weak equipment midgame. Choice of passive skills vs choosing active attack skills can also be a factor, for example in Arise rather than going for Artes I found the passive skills were far more useful once you got 6 artes, especially as I didn't use many of the artes I got as quite a few of them have long animations that got me killed more often than not as you can't cancel it besides using the d-pad to summon the ally to attack (forgot the name of the mechanic...been nearly 2 years since I last played) so I generally stuck with the ones with 1or 2 attacks in the artes animation that were short). Would also say Eternal Sonata's length also doesn't really fit the claim the video's making either, I remember being beyond 60 hours in my run of the game. And yeah 1 run of Scarlet Nexus and Xillia 1 are short but if you want to see all bonding events/story/sub quests you need to do 2 runs for both protagonists which would put them out of the video's claim as well for 100%ing the game. Would also say that as far as Ys goes Ys 7 would've been a better pick for the video as it's about a quarter of Ys 9's length (hell I beat it in 12 hours, Ys 9 about 70 or so hours) and was, imo, easier than Ys 9...side quests weren't as good though so I'll give you that in terms of Ys 9's side quests being great but they were also no worse than say Tales of Abyss/Vesperia's side quests either (also there weren't too many either). Only real challenge the game had was probably the optional giant enemies in the game and even there as far as Ys games are concerned they were fairly easy.
I'm playing Vandal Hearts right now and I'm loving every minute. It's extremely fun and doesn't take time with anything and everything is so wuick and smooth. Playing the translated Saturn version and it looks good.
Yeah about Scarlet Nexus, I do feel this game would work a lot better if they switched protagonists during the story instead of sticking to one perspective for the entire run. There are so many very significant events that you only get told in 1 sentence if you're playing the other protagonist that it hurts the story which is actually very good.
I tried playing I am Setsuna but I didn't finished the game due to my computer being broken and reformatting. And I'm not in a hurry of finishing the game because it is an rpg during my vacant and free time. Thanks for the review of the JP games.
Well, this is a great idea for a video. There is indeed so many great JRPGs, but some of them really dont respect your time, so you will either struggle with them for an entire year or you will just drop them. So, basicaly... these are the games that are most of the time fun, interesting and they are not so long that you will actualy finish them. And sadly, these are mostly older games. I dont have any tips now, but you should make more videos on this topic, because now I know that I can just buy DioField chronicle without any worries. The last JRPG I finished was Astral Chain, but does it respect your time? Hmm, I would say it does actualy. It took me about a year to beat, but thats probably because of my problem with playing too many games at the same time. Also Final Fantasy XIII. It didnt felt like the game did not respect my time... now Im playing XIII-2 and so far its also fine.
My go-to "respects your time" RPG is usually Chrono Trigger. You can usually see encounters coming, most of the story leads to the same point (finding out about and stopping Lavos), a single run will be about 15 hours or so, and you barely have to grind as you play. There are multiple endings, but it's determined by when in the story you kill Lavos, so if you play the game normally, you get the good ending. And even with multiple endings, New Game+ carries your stats over to make beating Lavos at different points in the story easier.
what can i say about this list of games, probably many of them i will never play, but the ones i played are really good like Tales of absyss, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Xilia and Ys 9, what they have in common they are all easy to play in their mechanics and difficulty, obviously some of them have more difficulty options, but I don't believe that the grind and a lot of text or story in the main or secondary missions can make a game not worth your time, like Persona 5 Royal or Persona 4 Golden mentioned at the beginning of the video, because they really have a lot of conersation and text, I agree that these games take time, but I believe they are worth the time. Great Work, all the best to you and your channel!
Such a great list idea. Also feel annoyed by games that require way too much to get the true ending. Especially if the true ending is actually the only good ending, like in Ys VIII
@@otame4771 You're right it's really easy to 100% and the quests are well written so I was motivated to do them all. This was just an example I thought of, where you pretty much have to do everything to get the only satisfying ending
Gonna take you 20 years to get through all the games... lol I spent and entire summer catching up on them when my kids went on a vacation... Those games are soooo long...
i was expecting Chrono Trigger, Live a Live, Phantasy Star IV, Arc The Lad 1, FFIV, and Suikoden 1. Those are short RPGs with good pacing and no filler.
I agree that the trails games don't respect your time. I'm on trails on the sky SC and good lord is it slow. I'm a few chapters in and i've had to do several riddles that involve running around the same locations over and over again. I normally don't mind but since most of the chapter's missions revolve around the city there's no fighting to break up the endless talking.
I just look up the solutions for bleublanc riddles because admittedly they are annoying though trails games aren't meant to be rushed especially ones like Azure or coldsteel 4.
Eternal Sonata.. finished it on X360 and later on PS3 too... great game.. but how you didnt mentioned Crisis Core Reunion or FF Type-0 HD, which are both only about 20 hors to finish? Why Soul Hackers 2 is not on the list? Its great and short JRPG too (30-35 hours), and Star Ocean First Departure (PS4- max 30 hours) ?. but still, great games :)
Nice video great topic, I think game developers forget most gamers have a life outside of gaming. I just can't take the grinding takes away from truly enjoying the game. Didn't get to play Tales of Xillia for ps3 hopefully 1 day, but I played part 2 7 I quit from time i had to pay back money like did I ask you to save me lol smh. I love The DioField Chronicles but its not as easy as you say, you do have to do a lil grinding, with the new DLC it's harder especially with the new boss smh, it could be better in terms of summons but all and all really good game. If there is any other games like it in terms of game play share please thanks.
@@Andrew_TS .....? 1st playthrough I did was about 10 to 14 hours long and I did most content the game had AND spoke to every npc avialable multiple times per run (a habit I picked up from Trails as the npcs dialogue constantly change per in game day)...hell I even started my 2nd run on the same day and wound up doing ALL 6 characters in about 80 hour or so...honestly now that I think of it Trials should be leading the video tbh in the #1 slot for this premise.
Great list and definitely some old and new games for me to replay/try out. Though I do have to disagree on few points. I wouldn't exactly say that Tales of the Abyss "respects your time" like most of others. Even when just doing the main story, you're looking at AT LEAST 40 hours. Yeah, you could rush through it and get it done faster, but you miss out on fun events with your party members that, while optional, really make the story what it is. Same with Odin Sphere, honestly. Not because I disagree with your assessment, but you didn't really address that you need to play five character's entire story, and the Epilogue, which easily takes around 50 hours. Even if you don't explore every stages map, which is a crying shame imo, you're looking at around 40-45 hours.
*Xillia, Scarlet Nexus and Abyss are all great* and all have the very charming character banter of the Tales games, that was a bit missing in the more serious Tales of Arise. The only criticisms I have for them is that Abyss's final antagonist's motivation isn't the greatest, and for Scarlet Nexus that the stages get a bit repetitive, due to being a bit of a budgeted title. For Xillia I don't even have any crticism, which is extremely rare. However I do have a warning: Make sure to play Jude's route (first). The routes are almost identical anyway, but Milla's route spoils the arguable best part of the game which is also only on Jude's route. They really should have switched routes for a bit there on MIlla's.
Panzer Dragoon Saga Respects your time... Only one collection quest near the end, and its not even that long... I can play through that game 100% just from memory...
True, I finished Eternal Sonata on X360 and also later on PS3, and dont remember I needed to grind a lot.. its still one of my top 5 JRPGs, but its because its very similiar to Star Ocean games, which I love most of JRPGs :)
Number 1 JRPG that literally respect your time should be Bravely Defaults on 3ds. They encourage player to rest, and while resting player can recharge SP to be used as special moves. Other than that they you can fast forward and use template action if you want to grind. Also there are options to adjust encounter rate if you want to grind or skip battles altogether.
Tbh, they are actually built to not respect your time. BD has this whole bunch of nonsense where you go through the diffrent worlds and it is the dumbest thing ever where there is nowhere near enough variation between those worlds. And BS is not only a sequel to that end of the game, but it also gives you a full recap so your time with the prior game feels wasted. The only reason I still recommend Bravely Default is that the version they localized is not the original JP version but the updated Final Mix-like version, and they added a "bad" end that can be gotten as soon as content would get repetetive and fixes basically all the issues people have about the pacing.
In defense of Trails series, it's their dialogue that makes them rich, in my opinion. Tried to rush Cold Steel IV and ruined it for me. Now I've got to replay it before proceeding to Reverie
Idk how to feel about Vandal Hearts, sure it IS straight to the point and the game drops sharply in difficulty later on. But... if you wanna do the Vandelier class then GEEEEEEEEEEEZ it becomes a frickin' nightmare, the quest 'segments' alone probably takes longer than the storymode.
For having played Tales of the Abyss some 4 times at least I'm somewaht doubtful of that game not being time consumming, that game has you backtrack to such places on foot it's very slow and if you're going to do all the sidequest it's even worse because half od those are very time sensitve and you do not have any way to track these mission except walkthroughs who learned that by going back to every place after anythign happens or by just waiting for the guidebook to come out whichever was more convenient for players... IT's a great game and I love it and would recommend it to any Tales player but if you wish to do the side quests (and a lot of them do actually give access to nice stuff like there's a series of quest that are solely dedicated to getting the requirements of the characters 2nd mystic artes for example) you're gonna need a step by step guide and most likely a ng+ for some of these
I wanted to like berseria but I feel the combat gets in the way. I enjoyed the 2d tales games, but I can't grasp this one. Any advice to help make the combat system click for me?
@@jesfestI think combat is great. Follow the battle tutorial to the tee and once you get skills, you can fill up skill meter and unleash powerful attacks. I love the battle system of Berseria and Rogue Galaxy.
@@main_tak_becus6689 ah yeah I liked rogue galaxy a lot, combat included. Maybe there's a point in the tutorial where berseria clicks? I've gotten the child party member last I remember, is there something cool further in to look forward to? I also might start a new game... That save is years old by now, and I could probably do with a fresh set of eyes and mind about it.
@@jesfest hmm, the story made me going through till the end. I also watched some videos of people pulling insane combos. I think it's about creativity just like Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, and others. I only spammed basic attack and skills until the last boss fight.
Hello Erik! I see you from Argentina, i want tell you i can buy a nintendo switch i'm very happy for that and i have 7 games: atielier sphie 2, nier automata, persona 5 first strike, attack on titan 2, megaman 11, street of rage 4 and the last dragon ball z xenovers 2
Add Panzer Dragoon Saga to the list, pretty short for an RPG (around 15h) and doesn't require grinding, it tells a story and it's done.. Well the only way to play it getting a SEGA Saturn maybe moded to play ROMs or just PC emulation which isn't that great but still pretty playable!
All great but for me at least, the reason why I get into jrpgs is that it lets me really sink my teeth into it and complete at my pace and keeps up with me, 40hr play time, feels just a bit too short for me to really take it all in. With prices now a days, I really want it to last for its value as well.
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0:28 - Lost Sphear
2:00 - Scarlet Nexus
3:31 - Langrisser 1&2 Remakes
4:59 - Tales of the Abyss
6:24 - Vandal Hearts
7:48 - Eternal Sonata
9:25 - Tales of Xillia
11:09 - The DioField Chronicle
12:59 - Ys IX Monstrum Nox
14:39 - Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
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I gotta add Chained Echoes. No random battles, no grinding for levels, no healing in between battles, and some bonus side content that isn’t required to get strong enough to make it through. Failure in battle just puts you back to the start of the fight, so there’s no long runs through dungeons from save points to boss battles. It’s been a joy to play.
big agree
couldn't agree more, though I spent around 60 hours to complete it I don't think all those hours were wasted at all.
I disagree because of the base building
so what respect your time now is visual novels and visual experiences see im here to ask what is the g stand for in rpg now where is the game for rpg far to many people want to pass off games that are barely or even arguably not a game and be like yep this is a game
@@roxaskingheartshave you even played chained echoes?
Additionally, if you replay Scarlet Nexus with the second protagonist, the game will let you start off with your endgame stats, which lets you blow through the early parts of the game that are normally set up with a slower pace and fewer abilities to acclimate you to the game. Since you don't gain tons of EXP from the early stuff either, the later content will still be able to catch up to you respectably, so while it's a little easier it's still enough to require attention once you get past the early parts.
Not only that, but the specific, final character event between the two protagonists will re-trigger once you unlock free switching between them so that you can switch back to the first character you completed and replay the event with the expanded dialogue you get having played both sides of the story.
About Scarlet Nexus, would you suggest to play it ?
I appreciate your information and am hesitating a bit to acquire it.
@@Cinetiste : Its biggest benefit is having REALLY good action. The story covers too many plot points in one go, but I like the characters and how they tie into the game's overall theme of issues with a modern 'connected society'. In more ways than one, you could say it's like a SciFi equivalent to the Tales games.
The pace of the game is easygoing about letting you do what you want between main story missions; a formula I like. It's nice to be able to stop and take things in for a while between chapters. You do progress by levels and gear, so there is something to do during intermissions beyond the characters' side stories, which start out as short interactions and get longer further into the game.
The two main characters are really well balanced in terms of gameplay. People seem very evenly split on which one they lean toward. Story wise, I'd be more inclined to recommend Yuito first if you intend to play both sides, or Kasane if you think you might only play it once. Still probably my personal second favorite game. :)
@@Cinetiste its nothing like something like NieR Automata, but it’s good if you want story and lore with amazing combat
This is absolutely helpful! Although I love Trails and Persona, brief games in between are great palette cleansers. Thank you for this list. I'm starting Scarlett Nexus tonight.
I recently played Live A Live, and I'd add that to the list. The individual stories were varied and brief, but felt fulfilling all the same, and I didn't have to grind that much.
Chrono Cross is the first JRPG I can remember that took steps forward to respect players time: visible enemies; you only level up a few stats/levels when you arrive to new areas; sidequests to gather characters were completely optional; the story progression was straightforward. The only thing I remember grinding for were the spoils left by enemies when you used summons to kill them, but that wasn't much of a hassle.
You should play Chrono Trigger, it did everything you described and there was no grinding. It's also a shorter game if I recall.
I recently finished Tails of the Abyss and I can definitely say you can get through it without too much grinding. You don't even need to bother learning most of the mechanics. You learn fang blade during the tutorial and I kept that move equipped the entire game.
One great thing about Odin Sphere is that, while there are extra scenes to unlock in the True Ending, you don't have to go out of your way too much, just fight some extra boss fights that, if you're ready to go for the ending, you're powerful enough to deal with anyway!
It is still my best side scrolling game to date
( mostly because of its art style tho)
Been thinking of playing Odin Sphere for years now, as Grand Chase was my first MMORPG and that one was also a sidescroller. It's actually super hard to find sidescrolling RPGs. If you guys know more, please tell me. One I beat recently was E.V.O.: Search for Eden, but it's not a traditional RPG.
Hopefully the translation for Princess Crown comes out eventually.
I always heard that Odin Sphere is very difficult to beat! I only have the PS2 version.
Fell in love with sidescrollers when i asked an aunt to buy me a Ragnarok online installer disc.
I got the Ragnarok Battle Offline. And you know what?
That game was so freaking good.
I dont remember how i found out about Odin Sphere. I wasnt much of an internet user back then, but it quickly became my favoritr genre and game.
If only i found out about SoTN earlier
@@t.castro4493Odin sphere has to be my favorite game ever, both versions are fun but leifthrasir is definitely an upgrade
You should try Muramasa it's also from vanillaware and it's a similar genre
There is also Battle Princess of Arcadia's that is sort of an Odin sphere clone in it's gameplay
I'm also a big fan of games like these but I'm also looking for them :'c
Metroidvanias are a good alternative though, and most of them have soft rpg elements like Castlevania
@@t.castro4493a few others that I can remember are Bladed Fury, Lost Epic and The Vagrant
There are actually a bunch of games like these in PC, though most of them are indies
There are also a bunch on mobiles but it's hard to find ones that don't have microtransactions and you'll have to use touch controls (though I do remember having a lot of fun playing am old game called arcane soul on my phone, and it was an action side roller rpg like these c:)
Vandal hearts is one of my favorite games of all time. I played that so much as a kid. It would be awesome if they ported it with updates visuals.
There is Vandal Hearts on PS3 Store, it was first game I bough on PS3 Store, but almost didnt play it.. sad its only digital, but it really exist :)
I didn't mind that for the Suikoden games, because I enjoyed every moment with them. However, one thing I recommend you check out is Bravely Default and Bravely Second, it allows you to completely turn off encounters, and it even lets you speed up battles.
I would like to add Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology to the list of games that respect your time. You don't have to grind heavily thanks to the 'slash on screen' option so long as you're on the easist setting and the side-quests it does have all help improve the plot since they change events. Even if it doesn't seem like a great respect of a player's time, it is a fun game that I highly recommend to anyone with a 3DS/2DS that likes time-travel.
I love Radiant Historia. Not a short game, but I agree it rarely feels like wasted time, IF you don't allow yourself to get sidetracked by too much optional stuff. If you're the sort of person who can't help but finish optional content, the game turns into a time sink.
Took me about 20+hours on easy mode. Then again, i'm just here for the plot; would definitely recommend Radiant Historia
Sounds about right. It took me about 40 hours to fill out the timeline in Radiant Historia, 45 for Perfect Chronology, with the help of guides for some of the side quest conditions. I didn't do much in PC's post-game dungeon though.
I would never say Suikoden games are grindy, taking into account the leveling system they have, what makes you use up lots of time is finding every little secret or recruitable character possible... specially if you do a blind playthrough XD
It is grindy if you planned to power up all your characters (both lvl and equipment)
Suikoden games are very minimally grindy and when you do grind, the characters who are behind catch up very quickly. Overall, with the exception of Suikoden 3, I never found grinding all that necessary in the series.
Since u mentioned odin sphere, i think Vanilla Ware's other masterpiece 13 Sentinels : Aegis Rim deserves a mention as well. A perfect blend of visual novel and tactical rpg elements with a incredible mind bending story. I completed it in 30 Hrs and since their is single ending you don't need to do multiple playthroughs
I think we need to add more support for indie games. And I will do that in this list by mentioning OMORI. It's a story-heavy game with a lot of dialogue, but even with that, a playthrough is only about 30 or so hours, and almost none of it is spent grinding. Sidequests exist, but they are easily skippable and only a few yield awesome rewards (the first couple, mainly) and a lot of them are actually hard to find and are only for an optional achievement at the very end. The only somewhat difficult spot in the game is the Junkyard. Once you get through that, which isn't That bad, if you find the forest after it difficult, there's an optional area that will give you several levelups in just a few minutes (5-10 minutes tops) which turns the forest from moderately difficult to laughably easy, and assuming you fight at least some of the stuff in the way (no random encounters, you see the enemies while you walk around though they will chase you if they see you), the rest of the game will be moderately easy as well. It only has two routes, and once you finish the game once, going the other route should be rather quick and easy as you already know what to do for a large portion of the game, and the split between the routes happens immediately after the (admittedly long) prologue so you don't have to do the prologue twice if you create another save before the split.
EDIT: If you're not up for actually playing OMORI, I still recommend finding a good youtuber who did a playthrough of it and watch it. The story is very engaging and thought-provoking and is one of the best stories I've ever seen laid out in a video game format. The attention to detail is insane, and so are some of the plot twists.
I love my JRPG’s and have since I was little but they sure take up a good chunk of your time. As an adult I just don’t have that much free time anymore. 🥺
Odins sphere needs to be on all platforms . Its just that good
Vandal Hearts was a short, but quality game. Really enjoyed that one.
I loved The Diofield Chronicle. My only issue was that it felt like nearly 2 hours of cutscenes were missing. It could have fleshed out some of the characters and relationships.
Oh man, I really wish they would remaster Eternal Sonata, just to clean it up a little bit for modern hardware. It was such a niche game, that too many people missed out on it. Good list though, especially with Abyss and Xilia.
I love Odin Sphere. Played the original and the remastered version. The story and artstyle was simply golden.
Though i do find Valkyrie Profile to fill some itch too. A little grindy, but worth it in the end.
And of course, my personal fav, the Suikoden series. Except for 4, waterworld.
Odinsphere was way too hard for me gave up after like 7 hours on ps2
Child of Light is another suggestion!
I played Odin sphere when I was a kid back in the days and replayed it again when it came to ps4, absolutely one of my favorite games in history
Cat quest 1&2 its fun, easy, not much grinding yes theres fetch quest but it kind builds the villagers situation.
Also you can play with a second player !
@allanc750 that maybe a non blessing in disguise 😅only because one will need to wait for the other to change categories.
Lost Sphear - PlayStation 4, Switch
Scarlet Nexus - PlayStation 3
Langrisser I & II, remake - Switch, PS4
Tales of the abyss - PlayStation 2
Vandal Hearts - PlayStation 1
Eternal Sonata - PlayStation 3
Tales of Xillia - PlayStation 3
Diofield Chronicle - PlayStation 4
Xs 9 - Playstation 4
Odin Sphere - Liefdrasir - PlayStation 4
Langrisser is also on PS4
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@@CrumpetsNBiscuits noted. I just bought it last week so it may be a new release.
Blue Reflection comes to mind as a JRPG that respect your time. The game is short, (around 10-15 including side quests), easy, and doesn't require almost any grinding. In my 14 hours with the game I reached max level, did all the side quests, and beat the game. Also Hinako is one of the best JRPGs protagonists I've played.
Blue Reflections' gallons of slimy DLC turned me off that game completely. Shame.
Great List! I will definitely check the ones I have yet to play . I would like to add The Last Story as another great game that respects your time. I wish more games came out in the similar style but The Diofield Chronicle seems it might scratch that itch of movement and action similar to The Last Story.
I remember Scarlet Nexus sending me back to the same stages over and over. I found it a huge drag.
Yeah I agree. Yuito's story had me asleep for 75% of the game too. The combat was fun for the first 10 hours but after that it just overstayed its welcome, I barely found the energy to finish one campaign. The only thing I really enjoyed was the soundtrack...
Much love for giving some spotlight to Odin Sphere! Getting it on sale for a measly $5 was the best decision I could’ve made for one of the best games I ever played. Love the CrossCode music in the intro too. ;)
Naruto: Path of the Ninja, 1 and 2. Both have a compelling story where you don't have to grind for two hrs (though I consider that light grinding) between missions. If you learn how effective type affinities are, you can beat the entire game without any grinding. Of course, thats a detriment if the game isn't challenging, but there are several challenging bosses. If you're a fan of turn-based you'll love these.
I also find Breath of Fire 3 a very good game, apart from the Desert, but the desert is more of a issue with translation rather than bull from the devs. If you know what you're doing, you will get past the desert in 14 minutes, you can add +20 if you want to grab the special armor and blades, but that's it. You can finish the game pretty fast too and it has a nice story. It's a very old RPG but it's an awesome one for me.
This game blew me away when I was younger. The story was so interesting and engaging to younger me. I’m going to replay this soon!
Just came for the Milla pic from Tales of Xillia on the thumbnail, still one of my top 5 favorite games of all time ❤
I would swap Ys IX for Ys Origins on this list if that counts, it plays more like a dungeon crawler and there's no fluff at all. Tough game and some of the best boss battles in the series.
Absolutely love Ys Origins, it's one of my all-time favorites. It does do the whole thing with beating the game with all characters for the true ending though.
I'd like to put forth Xenosaga 1 and 3. Yes the story sequences are gloriously long, but that's what makes it respect your time. The gameplay has a few sidequests, but mostly it's just a turn-based RPG with reasonably paced dungeons which tells a masterful story with a lot of production values - especially for the time - three amazing soundtracks and some really interesting themes and characters.
I would put only the game 3, that goes more direct to point, the first one is great, but there are moments very very boring...
Xenosaga III in particular addressed one of the common complaints people had with the previous entries: battles that can take too long to finish. They fixed that in XS III by giving the game blazing-fast battle transitions and attack animations, making battles go by a lot faster compared to its prequels.
@@jairocolombo4410 I can see why some would find the first one boring. A lot of technobabble. I personally found everything about its story at least captivating enough to have either played the game, watched all the cutscenes as a movie or read the game script at least 7 times. I find the whole trilogy still one of the best game narratives out there, and it's a shame both that it's inaccessible on modern hardware and that it didn't get expanded upon in the way it was intended.
@@TheHarunate I love the whole trilogy, and 1 especially holds a special place for me. But I can't deny that 3 is, gameplay wise a much better experience.
What i love in Xillia even the sidequest have a good story and some expand the main story
Scarlet Nexus is so good, highly recommend that one and it's not expensive!
Odinsphere was such a find. I just randomly picked it up at gamestop one day, and got IMMEDIATELY hooked. Same with Tales of Xillia/Xillia 2. Still waiting for the PC port...
A great game that I felt respected my time was Tales of Arise. One that hasn't, as much as I liked it, was Trails of Cold Steel.
I'm totally agree with you, they can also add ender lilies, i just spend around 20 hours to finish it
Scarlet nexus is so good; Abyss has the best intro music out of the series // All solid games; an excellent list!
great seeing those timestamps with actual titles. you know the audience who will click on this video 👍
Backtracking in FF XII only if you want to get Esper or hunt certain monsters. Main story itself was straightforward.
Let's get you to 100k man, you deserve it
Thanks for the list! I just bought Lost Sphear for $14.99 on the eshop! :)
YOOO the CrossCode sound track instantly hit me.
Thsnks for putting my Tier S game in the #2 spot. I want to add a bunch of games to this list like: The Lost Child, Eternal Radiance, Neptunia x Senran, and La Pucelle Ragnorak.
Well grinding is actually the main point of JPRG in my opinion, that's why I liked it.
Vandal Hearts!! I loved playing this game back then.
I agreed, this list is not easy to made bcoz jrpg is about long dialogues and story and grind
I recently got the DioField Chronicle ebcause it was cheap and Lost Sphear is fairly high on my list of Switch games that I am still looking for.
...I seriously question the inclusion of Tales of the Abyss as it's easily up there as a longer title in the series...hell I hear many complaints for the game is the addition of the 3rd act felt like it padded the game further than it needed/was almost a rehash of the 2nd act of the game and is easily double the length of Xillia (unless you're skipping story dialogue and doing no sub quests) which is a game I agree fits the list fine (hell imo it'd probably be about 5th or 6th longest game in the series imo)...if I was to choose a 2nd Tales game (and not going back to retro Tales games which were shorter overall due to a bit more simplified writing) it'd probably be Dawn of the New World. And the whole skipping battles is a thing for almost all Tales games besides the first few games in the series, Legendia, and Hearts R and as far as combat goes your choice of difficulty option will also make your run faster or longer due to enemies taking longer to kill on higher difficulties due to HP being increased (not really a big change in difficulty imo outside of enemies maybe being a bit more aggressive or unlocking a mystic arte in some cases but that'd be about it...only Tales game that felt like the difficulty change made the enemies a bit harder was Arise where their level of aggressiveness went from say a 2 on Normal to a 5 on Intermediate and then an 8 on Hard and 10+ for higher difficulties whereas most other games would be a 2 on Normal, 3 on Intermediate, 5 on Hard, and then 7 on higher difficulties in comparison in terms of how aggressive they were...throw in Arise's enemies htis actually do hurt thought he HP sponginess of even mob enemies, especially bosses, can be a bit ridiculous (though it's obvious done to push players to use the team fatal strikes on mobs once they fill the game's 'break' gauge rather than take out their normal HP...bosses though are ridiculous as you can only hit them with it at half HP so the quickest method to beating them is basically building Alphen with his Flame edge attacks in mind, charge them up until he has 1 hp, and them wipe out about a quarter of the bosses HP with flame edges and get healed by Shionne/Dohalim immediately afterwards...ally AI being ass also doesn't help as most of the time they get themselves killed (biggest complaint I have about the game mechanically...outside of that last half of story was meh, though not as bas as Vesperia's final act imo, and side quests sucked). Granted any Tales game (or action game in general) you can easily breeze through as they rely more on skill than stats unlike turn based games 90% of the time (keeping up with most recent equipment will make it faster of course but in action games you can avoid damage completely via dodging while counterattacking in real time unlike TB games where the evasion stat determines that. The STR stat only really becomes an issue in an action game if the difference between your STR/Level and the enemies STR/LV/DEF is about 20x or more and you're only dealing about 10s/hundreds of damage on a 100K HP boss which usually only happens if your about 20+ levels lower or using very weak equipment midgame. Choice of passive skills vs choosing active attack skills can also be a factor, for example in Arise rather than going for Artes I found the passive skills were far more useful once you got 6 artes, especially as I didn't use many of the artes I got as quite a few of them have long animations that got me killed more often than not as you can't cancel it besides using the d-pad to summon the ally to attack (forgot the name of the mechanic...been nearly 2 years since I last played) so I generally stuck with the ones with 1or 2 attacks in the artes animation that were short).
Would also say Eternal Sonata's length also doesn't really fit the claim the video's making either, I remember being beyond 60 hours in my run of the game.
And yeah 1 run of Scarlet Nexus and Xillia 1 are short but if you want to see all bonding events/story/sub quests you need to do 2 runs for both protagonists which would put them out of the video's claim as well for 100%ing the game.
Would also say that as far as Ys goes Ys 7 would've been a better pick for the video as it's about a quarter of Ys 9's length (hell I beat it in 12 hours, Ys 9 about 70 or so hours) and was, imo, easier than Ys 9...side quests weren't as good though so I'll give you that in terms of Ys 9's side quests being great but they were also no worse than say Tales of Abyss/Vesperia's side quests either (also there weren't too many either). Only real challenge the game had was probably the optional giant enemies in the game and even there as far as Ys games are concerned they were fairly easy.
I'm playing Vandal Hearts right now and I'm loving every minute. It's extremely fun and doesn't take time with anything and everything is so wuick and smooth. Playing the translated Saturn version and it looks good.
I truly enjoyed xillia back then. Thanks for the video
Yeah about Scarlet Nexus, I do feel this game would work a lot better if they switched protagonists during the story instead of sticking to one perspective for the entire run. There are so many very significant events that you only get told in 1 sentence if you're playing the other protagonist that it hurts the story which is actually very good.
I tried playing I am Setsuna but I didn't finished the game due to my computer being broken and reformatting. And I'm not in a hurry of finishing the game because it is an rpg during my vacant and free time. Thanks for the review of the JP games.
Well, this is a great idea for a video. There is indeed so many great JRPGs, but some of them really dont respect your time, so you will either struggle with them for an entire year or you will just drop them.
So, basicaly... these are the games that are most of the time fun, interesting and they are not so long that you will actualy finish them. And sadly, these are mostly older games.
I dont have any tips now, but you should make more videos on this topic, because now I know that I can just buy DioField chronicle without any worries.
The last JRPG I finished was Astral Chain, but does it respect your time? Hmm, I would say it does actualy. It took me about a year to beat, but thats probably because of my problem with playing too many games at the same time.
Also Final Fantasy XIII. It didnt felt like the game did not respect my time... now Im playing XIII-2 and so far its also fine.
Hahaha
I hear that Crosscode soundtrack in the background for your intro.
Great video brother. Hope all is well
I agree with ys monstrum nox. I really had fun with it. I couldnt resist to finish it on 100% just4fun.
My go-to "respects your time" RPG is usually Chrono Trigger. You can usually see encounters coming, most of the story leads to the same point (finding out about and stopping Lavos), a single run will be about 15 hours or so, and you barely have to grind as you play. There are multiple endings, but it's determined by when in the story you kill Lavos, so if you play the game normally, you get the good ending. And even with multiple endings, New Game+ carries your stats over to make beating Lavos at different points in the story easier.
what can i say about this list of games, probably many of them i will never play, but the ones i played are really good like Tales of absyss, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Xilia and
Ys 9, what they have in common they are all easy to play in their mechanics and difficulty, obviously some of them have more difficulty options, but I don't believe that the grind and a lot of text or story in the main or secondary missions can make a game not worth your time, like Persona 5 Royal or Persona 4 Golden mentioned at the beginning of the video, because they really have a lot of conersation and text, I agree that these games take time, but I believe they are worth the time.
Great Work, all the best to you and your channel!
Such a great list idea. Also feel annoyed by games that require way too much to get the true ending. Especially if the true ending is actually the only good ending, like in Ys VIII
Really? I think that Ys VIII has some of the easiest side quests in JRPG and you can literally finish them within 5 minutes
@@otame4771 You're right it's really easy to 100% and the quests are well written so I was motivated to do them all. This was just an example I thought of, where you pretty much have to do everything to get the only satisfying ending
I love the Trails of Cold Steel and Reverie series, but man I can only play about 2 hours a night after work.
Gonna take you 20 years to get through all the games... lol
I spent and entire summer catching up on them when my kids went on a vacation... Those games are soooo long...
I'm always a fan of any list featuring xillia
I would really add Final Fantasy XVI. I'm having a blast. The story is straight to the point and I don't feel being forced to do any filler content.
thanks for this...need a break from those long ones lol
I loved the Ys series, I put Diofield Chroncle into my wishlist. Does it have a physical version?
i was expecting Chrono Trigger, Live a Live, Phantasy Star IV, Arc The Lad 1, FFIV, and Suikoden 1. Those are short RPGs with good pacing and no filler.
I agree that the trails games don't respect your time. I'm on trails on the sky SC and good lord is it slow. I'm a few chapters in and i've had to do several riddles that involve running around the same locations over and over again. I normally don't mind but since most of the chapter's missions revolve around the city there's no fighting to break up the endless talking.
I just look up the solutions for bleublanc riddles because admittedly they are annoying though trails games aren't meant to be rushed especially ones like Azure or coldsteel 4.
Eternal Sonata.. finished it on X360 and later on PS3 too... great game.. but how you didnt mentioned Crisis Core Reunion or FF Type-0 HD, which are both only about 20 hors to finish? Why Soul Hackers 2 is not on the list? Its great and short JRPG too (30-35 hours), and Star Ocean First Departure (PS4- max 30 hours) ?. but still, great games :)
The Dealfield Chronicle's combat is the same as the "Original" Tears to Tiara.
Nice video great topic, I think game developers forget most gamers have a life outside of gaming. I just can't take the grinding takes away from truly enjoying the game. Didn't get to play Tales of Xillia for ps3 hopefully 1 day, but I played part 2 7 I quit from time i had to pay back money like did I ask you to save me lol smh. I love The DioField Chronicles but its not as easy as you say, you do have to do a lil grinding, with the new DLC it's harder especially with the new boss smh, it could be better in terms of summons but all and all really good game. If there is any other games like it in terms of game play share please thanks.
What about the Trials of Mana remake ?
It has pretty good pacing.
One playthrough can be pretty long but new game plus is really quick for subsequent playthroughs.
@@Andrew_TS .....? 1st playthrough I did was about 10 to 14 hours long and I did most content the game had AND spoke to every npc avialable multiple times per run (a habit I picked up from Trails as the npcs dialogue constantly change per in game day)...hell I even started my 2nd run on the same day and wound up doing ALL 6 characters in about 80 hour or so...honestly now that I think of it Trials should be leading the video tbh in the #1 slot for this premise.
Great vid, what is the outro song?
Lost Sphear sounds interesting! I wonder why I've never heard of it before...
When I play JRPGs, I usually smoke some sweet pippa cuccumella, so time passes faster.
can't wait to play lang greaser and the dealfield chronicle!
3:35 Get in there Erick!
Great list and definitely some old and new games for me to replay/try out. Though I do have to disagree on few points.
I wouldn't exactly say that Tales of the Abyss "respects your time" like most of others. Even when just doing the main story, you're looking at AT LEAST 40 hours. Yeah, you could rush through it and get it done faster, but you miss out on fun events with your party members that, while optional, really make the story what it is. Same with Odin Sphere, honestly. Not because I disagree with your assessment, but you didn't really address that you need to play five character's entire story, and the Epilogue, which easily takes around 50 hours. Even if you don't explore every stages map, which is a crying shame imo, you're looking at around 40-45 hours.
Is Odin Sphere ps2 original any good? Because i can only playing that version.
I like games which have as much Sidequests, backtracking secrets etc as possible, so i get more gameplay out of my money.
*Xillia, Scarlet Nexus and Abyss are all great* and all have the very charming character banter of the Tales games, that was a bit missing in the more serious Tales of Arise. The only criticisms I have for them is that Abyss's final antagonist's motivation isn't the greatest, and for Scarlet Nexus that the stages get a bit repetitive, due to being a bit of a budgeted title. For Xillia I don't even have any crticism, which is extremely rare. However I do have a warning: Make sure to play Jude's route (first). The routes are almost identical anyway, but Milla's route spoils the arguable best part of the game which is also only on Jude's route. They really should have switched routes for a bit there on MIlla's.
The Spirit Engine 2. Interesting setting, fast combat, and each plot beat is more ridiculous then the last
Vandal hearts was a great game. It is 1 of only 2 SRPG I have ever finished.
Panzer Dragoon Saga Respects your time... Only one collection quest near the end, and its not even that long... I can play through that game 100% just from memory...
I don't remember having to grind in Eternal Sonata, but maybe I enjoyed the combat so much that I ended up grinding without knowing.
True, I finished Eternal Sonata on X360 and also later on PS3, and dont remember I needed to grind a lot.. its still one of my top 5 JRPGs, but its because its very similiar to Star Ocean games, which I love most of JRPGs :)
Number 1 JRPG that literally respect your time should be Bravely Defaults on 3ds. They encourage player to rest, and while resting player can recharge SP to be used as special moves. Other than that they you can fast forward and use template action if you want to grind. Also there are options to adjust encounter rate if you want to grind or skip battles altogether.
Tbh, they are actually built to not respect your time. BD has this whole bunch of nonsense where you go through the diffrent worlds and it is the dumbest thing ever where there is nowhere near enough variation between those worlds. And BS is not only a sequel to that end of the game, but it also gives you a full recap so your time with the prior game feels wasted. The only reason I still recommend Bravely Default is that the version they localized is not the original JP version but the updated Final Mix-like version, and they added a "bad" end that can be gotten as soon as content would get repetetive and fixes basically all the issues people have about the pacing.
If we’re including ps1 games, the first Lunar. Can be beat ~25 hours with no grinding so long as you don’t run from fights.
So funny, I’m watching this video while going back and forth a million times trying to farm a couple faithstone chunks in Demon’s Souls.
Have you ever play Saga Frontier 2? It was great for me, really like it
If you have played it, may i watch it?
In defense of Trails series, it's their dialogue that makes them rich, in my opinion. Tried to rush Cold Steel IV and ruined it for me. Now I've got to replay it before proceeding to Reverie
Idk how to feel about Vandal Hearts, sure it IS straight to the point and the game drops sharply in difficulty later on. But... if you wanna do the Vandelier class then GEEEEEEEEEEEZ it becomes a frickin' nightmare, the quest 'segments' alone probably takes longer than the storymode.
For having played Tales of the Abyss some 4 times at least I'm somewaht doubtful of that game not being time consumming, that game has you backtrack to such places on foot it's very slow and if you're going to do all the sidequest it's even worse because half od those are very time sensitve and you do not have any way to track these mission except walkthroughs who learned that by going back to every place after anythign happens or by just waiting for the guidebook to come out whichever was more convenient for players...
IT's a great game and I love it and would recommend it to any Tales player but if you wish to do the side quests (and a lot of them do actually give access to nice stuff like there's a series of quest that are solely dedicated to getting the requirements of the characters 2nd mystic artes for example) you're gonna need a step by step guide and most likely a ng+ for some of these
When I beat Tales of Xillia I thought it was the longest game ever made. I swear it took me like 80 hours to beat doing no sidequests.
oh and recently I also bought the Tales of Arise for PS4!!!
idk how lost sphere respects your time by having the final boss final stand against your party.
Love Berseria. Lovely Velvet. Awesome history.
I wanted to like berseria but I feel the combat gets in the way. I enjoyed the 2d tales games, but I can't grasp this one.
Any advice to help make the combat system click for me?
@@jesfestI think combat is great. Follow the battle tutorial to the tee and once you get skills, you can fill up skill meter and unleash powerful attacks. I love the battle system of Berseria and Rogue Galaxy.
@@main_tak_becus6689 ah yeah I liked rogue galaxy a lot, combat included.
Maybe there's a point in the tutorial where berseria clicks? I've gotten the child party member last I remember, is there something cool further in to look forward to?
I also might start a new game... That save is years old by now, and I could probably do with a fresh set of eyes and mind about it.
@@jesfest hmm, the story made me going through till the end. I also watched some videos of people pulling insane combos. I think it's about creativity just like Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, and others. I only spammed basic attack and skills until the last boss fight.
@@main_tak_becus6689 ooh, got a link to those combos? Nice profile pic too. That game seems underrated judging by steam achievements
Scarlet Nexus is on sale for 14.99 on steam. I never even heard of this game before this video. I love telekinesis.
Hello Erik! I see you from Argentina, i want tell you i can buy a nintendo switch i'm very happy for that and i have 7 games: atielier sphie 2, nier automata, persona 5 first strike, attack on titan 2, megaman 11, street of rage 4 and the last dragon ball z xenovers 2
Add Panzer Dragoon Saga to the list, pretty short for an RPG (around 15h) and doesn't require grinding, it tells a story and it's done.. Well the only way to play it getting a SEGA Saturn maybe moded to play ROMs or just PC emulation which isn't that great but still pretty playable!
All great but for me at least, the reason why I get into jrpgs is that it lets me really sink my teeth into it and complete at my pace and keeps up with me, 40hr play time, feels just a bit too short for me to really take it all in. With prices now a days, I really want it to last for its value as well.
I love this concept for a video but I love An RPG I Can sink my teeth into !