Please note that the Dacia Spring is fabricated in communist China but uses the same older engine assembly. New upgrades are planned by Renault in the next years on the car and manufacturing is expected to be moved to Europe.
to my knowledge the Dacia Spring, the Renault K-ZE [discontinued in China], Dongfeng Nissan E30 and the Dongfeng EX1 are using the same Chinese made motor [33kw, model 4DB400 from Shanghai Automotive Electric Drive] and the same traction battery from Sunwoda. All models are produced at the same Dongfeng factory in Hubei province. Only difference is that Dacia is made for EU market, so is different in terms of more safety features and a bit better finishing like a bigger 12V battery
I have the new updated version = got it in June 2023. have absolutely no complaints at all about it.I love driving it and it is perfect for where I live in France which is very hilly and lots of winding lanes. If they bring out one with more autonomy I will seriously consider changing for it.
This video shows production of electric motors Renault 5AQ in Cleon, France, for Renault Zoe and Renault Kangoo ZE in 2015, which is/was also assembled in France, in Flins and Maubeuge. In contrast, Dacia Spring has a different electric motor by Chinese supplier "Shanghai Auto Edrive Co., Ltd" (permanent magnet motor), where motor and car are assembled in China.
Quite a Zen experience, watching the future unfold in a mechanical ballet. Thank you. I like the choreography of your video. It is going to change car manufacturing personnel, currently lots of petrolheads, and soon to be electricians. Fascinating...
Das Video ist schlicht falsch zugeordnet. Hier wird die Montage eines fremderregten Synchronmotors gezeigt, wie er im sktuellen Zoe verwendet wird. Der Dacia Elektromotor ist ein eigenerregter Synchronmotor der völlig anders aussieht. Auch die funktionsweise ist anders. Der Spring-Motor ist Bürstenlos. Somit ist auch die Videobeschreibung völlig falsch.
This motor is maybe from Zoe if you're look under hood of Dacia connectors are different,also at the end of this clip on sticker stay year of production 2015.
Hello everyone, I am looking for a data sheet for the externally excited 60kW synchronous machine of the Renault Twingo which is probably shown in this video. can someone maybe help me?
In video este prezentat un motor cu rotor bobinat dar Spring nu are rotor bobinat. Posibil ca nimic din acest video sa nu aiba vreo legatura cu modelul Spring.
This movie provides lot of none-relevant details even repeatedly while missing essential, the details of motor technology and principles that today are no more a secret... Or this is because...this car seems to be powered by ancient motor, with heavy coiled rotor involving brush-rings contacts, probably this is why they gets the lowest ratio power/weight (kW/kg), lower fiability and also no regenerative break! Also having gear mechanics instead of direct in wheel drive, we could rather name it as Dacia Electro-Mechanic... Maybe Musk did not agree to let them take better inspiration from his much more advanced motors that are based on synchronious 3 phases AC coiled stator with compact contactless cage rotor. But in fact neither the other Renault electric projects seems to be not far advanced from...despite their too large prices for their parameters. By another sample , could we compare ZOE electric demanding for over 30.000 euro versus the new planned Tesla model 2 that will soonly (this year) releases even under 20.000 euro ??? So, in order to save its projects and electric line, Renault should hurry relocating Dacia Spring to its origin country, Romania and ask more creative engineers to redesign the whole project to better match the current 2021 year electric technology expectations! My ordinary electric scooter has far even more advanced tech providing the highest power efficiency by direct in wheel DC BLDC brushless compact motor with regenerative ABS alike brake and ten thousands greater energy efficiency. By the way, there are already high power but tens times smaller and lower weight BLDC motors for up to 40 kW on the current market, compact, easily to setup and manufacture (neodim is the secret!) that more russian and other amateurs...used them to converse their extreme bicycles and scooters! So, New DACIA SPRING should be self-reinvented while this could even lower its costs especially with further maintenance!
You misunderstand, it's not a old DC Brushed motor it's a synchronous motor that get the magnet removed and replaced with copper wire. For the Tesla we really don't know if it will be 20000€, i don't know where this information come from. I Hope you're true but wait and see...
Dude you are babbling at 150% efficiency. "seems", "probably", Nostradamus predictions up and down, Tesla, Musk and scooters, all in one big pile of a mess. Chill de fudge down you have no idea of what you are talking about. This car is the best thing that could happen to the EV market in Europe and could force VW and Skoda to remove their heads out of their asses and deliver below 15k Euros city cars again.
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Please note that the Dacia Spring is fabricated in communist China but uses the same older engine assembly. New upgrades are planned by Renault in the next years on the car and manufacturing is expected to be moved to Europe.
it's a DC motor ?
to my knowledge the Dacia Spring, the Renault K-ZE [discontinued in China], Dongfeng Nissan E30 and the Dongfeng EX1 are using the same Chinese made motor [33kw, model 4DB400
from Shanghai Automotive Electric Drive] and the same traction battery from Sunwoda. All models are produced at the same Dongfeng factory in Hubei province. Only difference is that Dacia is made for EU market, so is different in terms of more safety features and a bit better finishing like a bigger 12V battery
these people dont like what i thought chinese factory workers would.
I have the new updated version = got it in June 2023. have absolutely no complaints at all about it.I love driving it and it is perfect for where I live in France which is very hilly and lots of winding lanes. If they bring out one with more autonomy I will seriously consider changing for it.
This video shows production of electric motors Renault 5AQ in Cleon, France, for Renault Zoe and Renault Kangoo ZE in 2015, which is/was also assembled in France, in Flins and Maubeuge.
In contrast, Dacia Spring has a different electric motor by Chinese supplier "Shanghai Auto Edrive Co., Ltd" (permanent magnet motor), where motor and car are assembled in China.
Quite a Zen experience, watching the future unfold in a mechanical ballet. Thank you. I like the choreography of your video. It is going to change car manufacturing personnel, currently lots of petrolheads, and soon to be electricians. Fascinating...
Das Video ist schlicht falsch zugeordnet. Hier wird die Montage eines fremderregten Synchronmotors gezeigt, wie er im sktuellen Zoe verwendet wird. Der Dacia Elektromotor ist ein eigenerregter Synchronmotor der völlig anders aussieht. Auch die funktionsweise ist anders. Der Spring-Motor ist Bürstenlos. Somit ist auch die Videobeschreibung völlig falsch.
Dacia spring has chinese permanent magnet synchronous motors. The video shows renault Zoe motors with wound rotors.
This motor is maybe from Zoe if you're look under hood of Dacia connectors are different,also at the end of this clip on sticker stay year of production 2015.
Older engines are to be used for the start
Why don't they use bldc motors with permanent magnets????
Hello everyone, I am looking for a data sheet for the externally excited 60kW synchronous machine of the Renault Twingo which is probably shown in this video. can someone maybe help me?
Buongiorno, io ho ordinato la Spring ma perché non riesco ad acquistare l'accessorio della spina per la ricarica in DC?
So no permanent magnet in these engines. Cheap but heavy.
I am interested of dacia spring but I am in doubt if it will be really reliable as it is made in china...
True
I am interested of chinese Renault K-ZE but not Dacia Spring. Although the chassis is the same, the K-ZE looks better.
I-phone ist also în China made... a lot of staff you use is made in China...but you don't know.
La spring n'a pas un rotor à aimant permanant ?
In video este prezentat un motor cu rotor bobinat dar Spring nu are rotor bobinat. Posibil ca nimic din acest video sa nu aiba vreo legatura cu modelul Spring.
Where are the chinese workers
If it's the same motor than the Zoe, it's made in France, i'm a bit surprises too because the car itself is made in China...
This movie provides lot of none-relevant details even repeatedly while missing essential, the details of motor technology and principles that today are no more a secret...
Or this is because...this car seems to be powered by ancient motor, with heavy coiled rotor involving brush-rings contacts, probably this is why they gets the lowest ratio power/weight (kW/kg), lower fiability and also no regenerative break!
Also having gear mechanics instead of direct in wheel drive, we could rather name it as Dacia Electro-Mechanic...
Maybe Musk did not agree to let them take better inspiration from his much more advanced motors that are based on synchronious 3 phases AC coiled stator with compact contactless cage rotor.
But in fact neither the other Renault electric projects seems to be not far advanced from...despite their too large prices for their parameters. By another sample , could we compare ZOE electric demanding for over 30.000 euro versus the new planned Tesla model 2 that will soonly (this year) releases even under 20.000 euro ???
So, in order to save its projects and electric line, Renault should hurry relocating Dacia Spring to its origin country, Romania and ask more creative engineers to redesign the whole project to better match the current 2021 year electric technology expectations!
My ordinary electric scooter has far even more advanced tech providing the highest power efficiency by direct in wheel DC BLDC brushless compact motor with regenerative ABS alike brake and ten thousands greater energy efficiency.
By the way, there are already high power but tens times smaller and lower weight BLDC motors for up to 40 kW on the current market, compact, easily to setup and manufacture (neodim is the secret!) that more russian and other amateurs...used them to converse their extreme bicycles and scooters!
So, New DACIA SPRING should be self-reinvented while this could even lower its costs especially with further maintenance!
Is there proof these aren't as reliable? I am interested in buying one but not if it isn't reliable.
You misunderstand, it's not a old DC Brushed motor it's a synchronous motor that get the magnet removed and replaced with copper wire. For the Tesla we really don't know if it will be 20000€, i don't know where this information come from. I Hope you're true but wait and see...
Dude you are babbling at 150% efficiency. "seems", "probably", Nostradamus predictions up and down, Tesla, Musk and scooters, all in one big pile of a mess.
Chill de fudge down you have no idea of what you are talking about. This car is the best thing that could happen to the EV market in Europe and could force VW and Skoda to remove their heads out of their asses and deliver below 15k Euros city cars again.